Re: [gmx-users] x2top

2009-06-18 Thread David van der Spoel

danilo gonzalez wrote:

hi gmx-users

i was reading , in other post, the posibillity to run a new molecule without 
create new .rtp file , but when i run that program, he gives me the next error message


Program x2top, VERSION 3.3.3

Source code file: ../../../../src/kernel/x2top.c, line: 206


Try one of the other programs available on the download pages of gromacs 
instead.




Fatal error:
Could only find a forcefield type for 654 out of 834 atoms


i read that in this file

http://oldwww.gromacs.org/pipermail/gmx-users/2006-September/024068.html


I really apreciate your help

best regards





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[gmx-users] Re: Some questions about OPLS/Berger combination]

2009-06-18 Thread Dorota Jamróz
Thank you Chris for your answer.
It didn't though clarify the things to me, so I'll try to explain again
where my objection is.

 The method is sound. A key realization is that the [ pairs ] section
 defines both the LJ and the Q pairs, so we will have double of each.
 We actually want double Q, since it was cut to 0.5 and 0.5*2=1.0. What
 we don't actually want is double epsilon, since the epsilon in
 question is already a special pairtypes epsilon that has been properly
 modified for 1-4 interactions. We thus cut epsilon in half to
 counteract the fact that we are forced to add it again twice in the
 pairs section.

But why should the epsilons be doubled? For OPLS-AA both the FudgeLJ and
FudgeQQ parameters are set to 0.5, so both the Coulombic and LJ 1-4
interactions are cut by 50%. We want them both to be 100% so, to
counteract this reduction, one can put a second copy of [ pairs ] section
to make GROMACS calculate both potentials twice. Dividing the epsilons by
2 will excessively reduce the 1-4 LJ potential (see below)

 Another point concerns the 1-4 Coulombic interaction; you state that
 dividing the Berger epsilons by 2 will modify both the 1-4 interactions
 types, the LJ and the Coulombic ones.

 I don't believe that I do say that anywhere.

Ok, I misinterpreted what you wrote in
http://lists.gromacs.org/pipermail/gmx-users/2006-September/023761.html
1. Divide the epsilon entries in the [ pairtypes ] of lipid.itp by 2.0.
Now the LJ and coulombic 1-4 interactions are both exactly half of what
they should be.


 While I am always open to the possibility that I have made a mistake,
 I actually put a lot of time into developing this and distributing it,
 so I'm not very motivated to go look into it again before I see a bit
 of data or perhaps a proper mathematical derivation of whatever
 problem you propose. I still believe that the method is properly
 derived and implemented.

 Chris.


All right, I'll try to explain what I mean with the exact formulas.
I understand the OPLS-AA LJ potential for 1-4 interaction between atoms A
and B is calculated as:
V(OPLS) = 0.5*4*epsilon*[(sigma/r)^12 - (sigma/r)^6] = 0.5*V(Berger)
where 0.5 is the scaling factor as defined by FudgeLJ and the epsilon and
sigma values are taken from the [ pairtypes ] section, if the pair A-B has
been specified there, otherwise they are calculated from the epsilons and
sigmas for the A and B atoms by the combination rule.
So, if you put into this formula the Berger epsilon for a given pair of
atoms, as taken from the [ pairtypes ], you get V(OPLS) which is a half of
what the potential should be. What you need is to double this value, which
may be achieved by putting a second copy of [ pairs ].
Now, if you divide the Berger epsilons by 2, the calculated OPLS potential
will be
V(OPLS) = 0.5*4*(epsilon/2)*[(sigma/r)^12 - (sigma/r)^6]=0.25*V(Berger)
Putting a second copy of [ pairs ] will double this value, so you end with
50% of the proper potential value instead of 100%.
So, where is the flaw in my reasoning?

All my best,
Dorota

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[gmx-users] How to obtain the .gro and .top files for dendrimers

2009-06-18 Thread wuxiao

Dear gmx users,

  On current, I plan to study a dendrimer (like PAMAM) using MD simulations 
available in GROMACS. As is well-known, the .gro and .top files are the start 
points for running MD simulations in GROMACS. However, the question how to 
obtain the files for dendrimers puzzles me too much, since the dendrimers have 
a complex dendritic structure. The mail-list and the manual seem not give 
helpful clues on doing it. Are there someone that have the experiences to do 
so? Could you share these experiences with us? Any suggesstion would be 
acknowledged greatly.

 

Chaofu Wu, Dr.

 

 

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Re: [gmx-users] How to obtain the .gro and .top files for dendrimers

2009-06-18 Thread David van der Spoel

wuxiao wrote:

Dear gmx users,
  On current, I plan to study a dendrimer (like PAMAM) using MD 
simulations available in GROMACS. As is well-known, the .gro and .top 
files are the start points for running MD simulations in GROMACS. 
However, the question how to obtain the files for dendrimers puzzles me 
too much, since the dendrimers have a complex dendritic structure. The 
mail-list and the manual seem not give helpful clues on doing it. Are 
there someone that have the experiences to do so? Could you share these 
experiences with us? Any suggesstion would be acknowledged greatly.
 
Chaofu Wu, Dr.


You will need to write your own rtp entries. Terminating chains may be a 
problem, but I don't know the structure and composition of these 
molecules, so it is hard to judge.
 
 



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Re: [gmx-users] How to obtain the .gro and .top files for dendrimers

2009-06-18 Thread Mark Abraham
wuxiao wrote:
 Dear gmx users,
   On current, I plan to study a dendrimer (like PAMAM) using MD 
 simulations available in GROMACS. As is well-known, the .gro and .top 
 files are the start points for running MD simulations in GROMACS. 
 However, the question how to obtain the files for dendrimers puzzles me 
 too much, since the dendrimers have a complex dendritic structure. The 
 mail-list and the manual seem not give helpful clues on doing it. Are 
 there someone that have the experiences to do so? Could you share these 
 experiences with us? Any suggesstion would be acknowledged greatly.

Unfortunately the main topology builder for GROMACS (pdb2gmx) is fairly
specific for head-to-tail polymers like protein and DNA. If you have an
existing generator for coordinates in some suitable format (PDB, .gro,
etc.), then you can probably make pdb2gmx work with careful use of
specbond.dat and appropriate .rtp file entries. You will probably need
to make versions of your residues that are terminated, since the
pdb2gmx termination methods won't cope with more than two termini. A
detailed knowledge of much of chapter 5 of the manual will be required.

There is no existing GROMACS tool for generating coordinate files, so
you are on your own here.

Mark
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[gmx-users] Re: How to obtain the .gro and .top files for dendrimers

2009-06-18 Thread wuxiao

Dear gmx users,

  In order to get more direct help, some words need to be added to the question 
for the first time. 

  The dendrimer I want to study is just PAMAM, ethylenediamine (EDA) cored and 
amine surface poly(amidoamine). The pdb file for the PAMAM has assumed to be 
obtained, and I want to generate the  .gro and .top files from the pdb file 
using pdb2gmx. According to the advice, some files need to be modified to make 
it implement successfully. so my question becomes: How to modify those files? 
Thanks a lot.

 

Chaofu Wu, Dr.

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[gmx-users] Parallel computation in Gromacs 3.2.1 Reg.

2009-06-18 Thread chandran karunakaran
Dear Gromacs users

We are interested in doing long time MD using parallel
computation.Can we use the Gromacs 3.2.1 version in
the parallel computation system. We would appreciate 
if you suggest what type of parallel computing system 
to be bought to implement  in Gromacs. 
Thank you
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Re: [gmx-users] Re: How to obtain the .gro and .top files for dendrimers

2009-06-18 Thread Mark Abraham
wuxiao wrote:
 Dear gmx users,
   In order to get more direct help, some words need to be added to the 
 question for the first time.

That's a good idea.

   The dendrimer I want to study is just PAMAM, ethylenediamine (EDA) 
 cored and amine surface poly(amidoamine). The pdb file for the PAMAM has 
 assumed to be obtained, and I want to generate the .gro and .top files 
 from the pdb file using pdb2gmx. 

You don't need a .gro file. It's a by-product of pdb2gmx, however.

 According to the advice, some files 
 need to be modified to make it implement successfully. so my question 
 becomes: How to modify those files? Thanks a lot.

As I said last time, you'll need to read and understand chapter 5 in
detail. You need .rtp file entries for all of your monomeric units and
half-capped monomeric units. This will require picking a MM forcefield,
looking at how the existing .rtp file entries work for it, and adapting
that knowledge to your own needs. You will also need to understand the
specbond.dat mechanism to facilitate branching. This is probably not
well-travelled territory, so you will have to do a lot of work. Doing
some protein-specific GROMACS tutorials is also wise - particularly ones
that use disulfide links, since that will teach you about specbond.dat.

In general, you stand a better chance of getting useful answers to
focussed questions that show you've tried to get your own information
and solve your own problems. How to modify these files sounds like you
want someone to do it all for you :-)

Mark
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Re: [gmx-users] Parallel computation in Gromacs 3.2.1 Reg.

2009-06-18 Thread Mark Abraham

chandran karunakaran wrote:

Dear Gromacs users

We are interested in doing long time MD using parallel
computation.Can we use the Gromacs 3.2.1 version in
the parallel computation system. We would appreciate
if you suggest what type of parallel computing system
to be bought to implement  in Gromacs.


Lacking a strong scientific reason (e.g. continuity with previous work) 
you should not be planning to use a version that's 3 or 4 years old. 
GROMACS 4.x is much faster.


That said, pretty much anything will be reasonable, but don't skimp on 
your network. Even gigabit ethernet is not very useful. Search the 
archives for posts recommending Infiniband.


Mark
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[gmx-users] problem in grompp -broken charge

2009-06-18 Thread Samik Bhattacharya
hi,
Justin, i have completed upto the genion step of that simulation. One error is 
creeping in this step which is nonzero system charge. my system is said to have 
a charge 1.69. now how to neutralize this kind of broken charge? another thing 
is that how this kind of broken chage is being developed? i think something was 
wrong in previous steps. but can't recognise which step to account for this 
anomalous behavior? waiting for your valuable suggestions...
Thanks again..
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Re: [gmx-users] problem in grompp -broken charge

2009-06-18 Thread Mark Abraham

Samik Bhattacharya wrote:

hi,
Justin, i have completed upto the genion step of that simulation. One 
error is creeping in this step which is nonzero system charge. my system 
is said to have a charge 1.69. now how to neutralize this kind of broken 
charge? another thing is that how this kind of broken chage is being 
developed? i think something was wrong in previous steps. but can't 
recognise which step to account for this anomalous behavior? waiting for 
your valuable suggestions...


Probably you have broken termini. Go and read all of the output from 
pdb2gmx carefully. If that doesn't clue you in, look at the [atoms] 
section of your .top file. There's a running count of the total 
charge... whenever that first becomes non-integral for the last atom in 
a residue, you have a broken residue there.


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[gmx-users] make install 'only suffix append binaries'

2009-06-18 Thread Alan
Hi List,

I would like to know if there's an option in gromacs Makefile that
would allow me to once did:

./configure --disable-float --program-suffix=_d --enable-shared
make

Then install only the binaries created with suffix _d.

I am not sure if 'make install-exec' would do it or if there's something else.

The reason is I want to create a Fink package for 'gromacs-double',
but if doing a normal 'make install' I will have conflict with files
like '/sw/bin/GMXRC' that are essentially the same for both
gromacs-simple or gromacs-double.

I hope you can understand me.

Many thanks in advance,

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Re: [gmx-users] make install 'only suffix append binaries'

2009-06-18 Thread Mark Abraham

Alan wrote:

Hi List,

I would like to know if there's an option in gromacs Makefile that
would allow me to once did:

./configure --disable-float --program-suffix=_d --enable-shared
make

Then install only the binaries created with suffix _d.

I am not sure if 'make install-exec' would do it or if there's something else.


I've no idea if that works, but it's straightforward to make a dummy 
install location and use configure --prefix=/that/dummy/location and see 
what gets put there.



The reason is I want to create a Fink package for 'gromacs-double',
but if doing a normal 'make install' I will have conflict with files
like '/sw/bin/GMXRC' that are essentially the same for both
gromacs-simple or gromacs-double.


Fair enough. How about listing gromacs-single and gromacs-double in the 
other's Conflicts and Replaces fink fields? 
http://www.finkproject.org/doc/packaging/reference.php?phpLang=en#fields 
That might just work and have no problems.


Also, I suggest making a bugzilla with your fink scripts attached when 
you have them working, since they may as well get put in the GROMACS 
admin subdirectory for future use.


Mark
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[gmx-users] Re: Re: protein in SDS/water

2009-06-18 Thread Anna Marabotti
Dear Justin,
AAARRRGGGHH! The last case indicated in the wiki section about 0 topology was 
MY case: probably I was using a
.mdp file that was created with Windows. When I re-wrote my em.mdp file using 
vi, it worked!!

I'm sorry for all this waste of time, but as I told some days ago, I've 
problems in seeing the contents of the
GROMACS site (old and new), and I could access to this information only through 
the link you sent me...

A little suggestion for developers: would it be possible to insert an error 
message more indicative for this
problem? I don't pretend that computers do everything I need, but it would be 
nice that they could at least
suggest me a solution in a less cryptic way when I have such a trivial problem, 
so I can avoid boring the
developers themselves...;-)

Thank you to all for collaboration and best regards
Anna

Anna Marabotti wrote:
 Dear all,
 as requested, I'm copying here the SDS.itp file (it should be not too big):
 
 ;   This file was generated by PRODRG version AA081006.0504
 ;   PRODRG written/copyrighted by Daan van Aalten
 ;   and Alexander Schuettelkopf
 ;   
 ;   Questions/comments to d...@davapc1.bioch.dundee.ac.uk
 ;   
 ;   When using this software in a publication, cite:
 ;   A. W. Schuettelkopf and D. M. F. van Aalten (2004).
 ;   PRODRG - a tool for high-throughput crystallography
 ;   of protein-ligand complexes.
 ;   Acta Crystallogr. D60, 1355--1363.
 
 [ moleculetype ]
 ; Name nrexcl
 SDS  3
 

OK, as I thought, if you #include SDS.itp you should NOT specify a separate 
[moleculetype] directive in your system .top file.

snip

 
 As I told sometimes ago, I obtained this file from PRODRG starting from a 
 SDS.pdb file that I created using
 SDS coordinates found in another .pdb file (I simply copied and pasted the 
 SDS coordinates in a new file and
 called it SDS.pdb). For my simulations, however, I used the SDS.gro file and 
 SDS.itp file generated by
PRODRG.
 I notice that the section [ moleculetype] is present in SDS.itp, but nothing 
 changes if I erase the [
 moleculetype ] section for SDS in my_prot.top: in all cases it doesn't work...
 I also copied and pasted the entire topology of SDS explicitly into 
 my_prot.top instead of typing #include
 SDS.itp, and nothing changed again...
 

Well, the .itp file itself seems to have been properly generated.

 Concerning the order of molecules in the last [ molecules ] section, I 
 changed it several times, and nothing
 changed...
 
 I'm still with an unclarified question: why genbox did not create by itself 
 all corrections necessary to the
 original .top file when I used the -ci -nmol options? I added the -p flag but 
 it doesn't change the topology
 by itself (as it should do, in my opinion).
 

It would be nice if the computers did everything for us, wouldn't it?  :)  
Maybe 
one day.  It looks like automated updates only work for addition of water. 
Perhaps this can be a future improvement to genbox.

Have you read the error page for your problem:

http://oldwiki.gromacs.org/index.php/Errors#Number_of_coordinates_in_coordinate_file_does_not_match_topology

There is a specific section on the case where grompp detects 0 coordinates in 
the .top that might be relevant.

-Justin

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Re: [gmx-users] make install 'only suffix append binaries'

2009-06-18 Thread Alan
Dear Mark,

Thank you very much for your reply. Indeed, reading more about Fink I
can see several alternative.

For now I guess I got a good solution. I have a package called
'gromacs-all' which installs gromacs single and double and now I want
to make too with mpi, but first I need to solve a problem with openmpi
in my Fink here.

Cheers,
Alan

On Thu, Jun 18, 2009 at 16:43, gmx-users-requ...@gromacs.org wrote:

 Alan wrote:
 Hi List,

 I would like to know if there's an option in gromacs Makefile that
 would allow me to once did:

 ./configure --disable-float --program-suffix=_d --enable-shared
 make

 Then install only the binaries created with suffix _d.

 I am not sure if 'make install-exec' would do it or if there's something 
 else.

 I've no idea if that works, but it's straightforward to make a dummy
 install location and use configure --prefix=/that/dummy/location and see
 what gets put there.

 The reason is I want to create a Fink package for 'gromacs-double',
 but if doing a normal 'make install' I will have conflict with files
 like '/sw/bin/GMXRC' that are essentially the same for both
 gromacs-simple or gromacs-double.

 Fair enough. How about listing gromacs-single and gromacs-double in the
 other's Conflicts and Replaces fink fields?
 http://www.finkproject.org/doc/packaging/reference.php?phpLang=en#fields
 That might just work and have no problems.

 Also, I suggest making a bugzilla with your fink scripts attached when
 you have them working, since they may as well get put in the GROMACS
 admin subdirectory for future use.

 Mark


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Re: [gmx-users] mpi mdrun

2009-06-18 Thread jayant james
Hi!
Thanks for your reply. So I suppose I need to have a hostfile in my
directory and call it during the mpirun command.  I have one clarification,
since I am using a quad core how am I to list the processors on the host
file? would it need to open a file name \d hostfile and have a list for
example like some thing below?
processor1
processor 2
processor 3
processor 4

or is getting to the hostfile an automated process (i.e.,) results from
executing a program?
I just put a search for host file and saw a folder by that name in the
directory below
~/software/open-mpi-1.2.8/orte/mca/rds/hostfile
Thanks
JJ


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 jayant james wrote:

 Hi!
 Oh!! I see that nnodes: 1. So does that mean that the job I gave is not
 running on four processors? If so how am I to solve this problem?


 You haven't configured your MPI system with a suitable hostfile/whatever
 for your machine, probably.


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Re: [gmx-users] mpi mdrun

2009-06-18 Thread Jussi Lehtola
On Thu, 2009-06-18 at 10:03 -0700, jayant james wrote:
 Hi!
 Thanks for your reply. So I suppose I need to have a hostfile in my
 directory and call it during the mpirun command.  I have one
 clarification, since I am using a quad core how am I to list the
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 hostfile and have a list for example like some thing below? 

If you're using openmpi on a quad core computer you just need to

$ mpirun -np 4 mdrun_mpi (options)
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Re: [gmx-users] mpi mdrun

2009-06-18 Thread Mark Abraham

jayant james wrote:

Hi!
Thanks for your reply. So I suppose I need to have a hostfile in my 
directory and call it during the mpirun command.  I have one 
clarification, since I am using a quad core how am I to list the 
processors on the host file? would it need to open a file name \d 
hostfile and have a list for example like some thing below?

processor1
processor 2
processor 3
processor 4

or is getting to the hostfile an automated process (i.e.,) results from 
executing a program?
I just put a search for host file and saw a folder by that name in the 
directory below

~/software/open-mpi-1.2.8/orte/mca/rds/hostfile


This is a GROMACS mailing list, not a how-to-configure-your-MPI list :-) 
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Re: [gmx-users] Re: Re: protein in SDS/water

2009-06-18 Thread Mark Abraham

Anna Marabotti wrote:

Dear Justin,
AAARRRGGGHH! The last case indicated in the wiki section about 0 topology was 
MY case: probably I was using a
.mdp file that was created with Windows. When I re-wrote my em.mdp file using 
vi, it worked!!

I'm sorry for all this waste of time, but as I told some days ago, I've 
problems in seeing the contents of the
GROMACS site (old and new), and I could access to this information only through 
the link you sent me...

A little suggestion for developers: would it be possible to insert an error 
message more indicative for this
problem? I don't pretend that computers do everything I need, but it would be 
nice that they could at least
suggest me a solution in a less cryptic way when I have such a trivial problem, 
so I can avoid boring the
developers themselves...;-)


It's actually an extremely rare cause for the problem, and adding text 
about DOS line endings there would confuse people, I think. Future 
releases of GROMACS are supposed to have links to the Errors wiki page, 
and this kind of information belongs there.


Preventing this problem is simple - even when working on a Windows 
machine, don't use its tools for editing files! Use Cygwin, or tunnel 
emacs out over X, or use emacs -nw, or vi. In extremis run everything 
through dos2unix.


You were unlucky to have been compounding the problem with other 
mistakes, though :-)


Mark


Thank you to all for collaboration and best regards
Anna

Anna Marabotti wrote:

Dear all,
as requested, I'm copying here the SDS.itp file (it should be not too big):

;   This file was generated by PRODRG version AA081006.0504
;   PRODRG written/copyrighted by Daan van Aalten
;   and Alexander Schuettelkopf
;   
;   Questions/comments to d...@davapc1.bioch.dundee.ac.uk
;   
;   When using this software in a publication, cite:

;   A. W. Schuettelkopf and D. M. F. van Aalten (2004).
;   PRODRG - a tool for high-throughput crystallography
;   of protein-ligand complexes.
;   Acta Crystallogr. D60, 1355--1363.

[ moleculetype ]
; Name nrexcl
SDS  3



OK, as I thought, if you #include SDS.itp you should NOT specify a separate 
[moleculetype] directive in your system .top file.


snip


As I told sometimes ago, I obtained this file from PRODRG starting from a 
SDS.pdb file that I created using
SDS coordinates found in another .pdb file (I simply copied and pasted the SDS 
coordinates in a new file and
called it SDS.pdb). For my simulations, however, I used the SDS.gro file and 
SDS.itp file generated by

PRODRG.

I notice that the section [ moleculetype] is present in SDS.itp, but nothing 
changes if I erase the [
moleculetype ] section for SDS in my_prot.top: in all cases it doesn't work...
I also copied and pasted the entire topology of SDS explicitly into my_prot.top 
instead of typing #include
SDS.itp, and nothing changed again...



Well, the .itp file itself seems to have been properly generated.


Concerning the order of molecules in the last [ molecules ] section, I changed 
it several times, and nothing
changed...

I'm still with an unclarified question: why genbox did not create by itself all 
corrections necessary to the
original .top file when I used the -ci -nmol options? I added the -p flag but 
it doesn't change the topology
by itself (as it should do, in my opinion).



It would be nice if the computers did everything for us, wouldn't it?  :)  Maybe 
one day.  It looks like automated updates only work for addition of water. 
Perhaps this can be a future improvement to genbox.


Have you read the error page for your problem:

http://oldwiki.gromacs.org/index.php/Errors#Number_of_coordinates_in_coordinate_file_does_not_match_topology

There is a specific section on the case where grompp detects 0 coordinates in 
the .top that might be relevant.


-Justin


Thank you again
Anna
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Re: [gmx-users] The Cut-off for coulombtype heat up the water system?

2009-06-18 Thread Yanmei Song
Dear Justin:

Thanks for your response.

The reason I am doing this is that I wanted to test what the different
electrostatics treatments will affect my results. So the heating up is
normal by using a plain cut-off and the results can not be trusted, right?

On Wed, Jun 17, 2009 at 5:20 PM, Justin A. Lemkul jalem...@vt.edu wrote:



 Yanmei Song wrote:

 Dear Users:

 I was running a system by non-equilibrium MD using a plain Cut-off for the
 electrostatics:

 title   =  water
 cpp =  /lib/cpp
 constraints =  all_bonds
 integrator  =  md
 dt  =  0.004   ; ps !
 nsteps  =  50  ; total 8ns.
 nstcomm =  1
 nstxout =  5
 nstvout =  5
 nstfout =  0
 nstlog  =  5000
 nstenergy   =  5000
 nstxtcout   =  25000
 nstlist =  10
 ns_type =  grid
 pbc =  xyz
 coulombtype =  Cut-off
 rlist   =  0.8
 rcoulomb=  0.9
 rvdw=  0.8
 fourierspacing  =  0.12
 ewald_rtol  =  1e-5
 ;nemd
 cos_acceleration=  0.005
 ; Berendsen temperature coupling is on in two groups
 Tcoupl  =  berendsen
 tc_grps =  SOL
 tau_t   =  0.1
 ref_t   =  300
 ; Energy monitoring
 energygrps  =  SOL
 ; Isotropic pressure coupling is now on
 Pcoupl  =  berendsen
 pcoupltype  =  isotropic
 ;pc-grps=  SOL
 tau_p   =  1.0
 ref_p   =  1.0
 compressibility =  4.5e-5

 ; Generate velocites is off at 300 K.
 gen_vel =  yes
 gen_temp=  300.0
 gen_seed=  10

 I can not figure out where I did wrong, the temperature of the system is
 303.54 after 5ns run ( the temperature turns to 303 in 500ps). Thanks for
 the help in advance!


 Why are you using cutoff for coulombtype?  It is the reason for the heating
 you are seeing:

 http://oldwww.gromacs.org/pipermail/gmx-users/2009-February/039505.html

 -Justin

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Re: [gmx-users] The Cut-off for coulombtype heat up the water system?

2009-06-18 Thread David van der Spoel

Yanmei Song wrote:

Dear Justin:

Thanks for your response.

The reason I am doing this is that I wanted to test what the different 
electrostatics treatments will affect my results. So the heating up is 
normal by using a plain cut-off and the results can not be trusted, right?


On Wed, Jun 17, 2009 at 5:20 PM, Justin A. Lemkul jalem...@vt.edu 
mailto:jalem...@vt.edu wrote:



That is correct. Check J. Chem. Theor. Comp. 2 (2006) p. 1-11.




Yanmei Song wrote:

Dear Users:

I was running a system by non-equilibrium MD using a plain
Cut-off for the electrostatics:

title   =  water
cpp =  /lib/cpp
constraints =  all_bonds
integrator  =  md
dt  =  0.004   ; ps !
nsteps  =  50  ; total 8ns.
nstcomm =  1
nstxout =  5
nstvout =  5
nstfout =  0
nstlog  =  5000
nstenergy   =  5000
nstxtcout   =  25000
nstlist =  10
ns_type =  grid
pbc =  xyz
coulombtype =  Cut-off
rlist   =  0.8
rcoulomb=  0.9
rvdw=  0.8
fourierspacing  =  0.12
ewald_rtol  =  1e-5
;nemd
cos_acceleration=  0.005
; Berendsen temperature coupling is on in two groups
Tcoupl  =  berendsen
tc_grps =  SOL
tau_t   =  0.1
ref_t   =  300
; Energy monitoring
energygrps  =  SOL
; Isotropic pressure coupling is now on
Pcoupl  =  berendsen
pcoupltype  =  isotropic
;pc-grps=  SOL
tau_p   =  1.0
ref_p   =  1.0
compressibility =  4.5e-5

; Generate velocites is off at 300 K.
gen_vel =  yes
gen_temp=  300.0
gen_seed=  10

I can not figure out where I did wrong, the temperature of the
system is 303.54 after 5ns run ( the temperature turns to 303 in
500ps). Thanks for the help in advance!


Why are you using cutoff for coulombtype?  It is the reason for the
heating you are seeing:

http://oldwww.gromacs.org/pipermail/gmx-users/2009-February/039505.html

-Justin

-- 
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Ph.D. Candidate
Department of Chemical Engineering
Arizona State University




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Re: [gmx-users] The Cut-off for coulombtype heat up the water system?

2009-06-18 Thread Justin A. Lemkul



Yanmei Song wrote:

Dear Justin:

Thanks for your response.

The reason I am doing this is that I wanted to test what the different 
electrostatics treatments will affect my results. So the heating up is 
normal by using a plain cut-off and the results can not be trusted, right?




That is one of the known problems with using cut-off, yes.

-Justin

On Wed, Jun 17, 2009 at 5:20 PM, Justin A. Lemkul jalem...@vt.edu 
mailto:jalem...@vt.edu wrote:




Yanmei Song wrote:

Dear Users:

I was running a system by non-equilibrium MD using a plain
Cut-off for the electrostatics:

title   =  water
cpp =  /lib/cpp
constraints =  all_bonds
integrator  =  md
dt  =  0.004   ; ps !
nsteps  =  50  ; total 8ns.
nstcomm =  1
nstxout =  5
nstvout =  5
nstfout =  0
nstlog  =  5000
nstenergy   =  5000
nstxtcout   =  25000
nstlist =  10
ns_type =  grid
pbc =  xyz
coulombtype =  Cut-off
rlist   =  0.8
rcoulomb=  0.9
rvdw=  0.8
fourierspacing  =  0.12
ewald_rtol  =  1e-5
;nemd
cos_acceleration=  0.005
; Berendsen temperature coupling is on in two groups
Tcoupl  =  berendsen
tc_grps =  SOL
tau_t   =  0.1
ref_t   =  300
; Energy monitoring
energygrps  =  SOL
; Isotropic pressure coupling is now on
Pcoupl  =  berendsen
pcoupltype  =  isotropic
;pc-grps=  SOL
tau_p   =  1.0
ref_p   =  1.0
compressibility =  4.5e-5

; Generate velocites is off at 300 K.
gen_vel =  yes
gen_temp=  300.0
gen_seed=  10

I can not figure out where I did wrong, the temperature of the
system is 303.54 after 5ns run ( the temperature turns to 303 in
500ps). Thanks for the help in advance!


Why are you using cutoff for coulombtype?  It is the reason for the
heating you are seeing:

http://oldwww.gromacs.org/pipermail/gmx-users/2009-February/039505.html

-Justin

-- 
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Ph.D. Candidate
Department of Chemical Engineering
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Re: [gmx-users] The Cut-off for coulombtype heat up the water system?

2009-06-18 Thread Yanmei Song
Dear Justin:

Thank you so much for your answer. That helps a lot!

On Thu, Jun 18, 2009 at 10:35 AM, Justin A. Lemkul jalem...@vt.edu wrote:



 Yanmei Song wrote:

 Dear Justin:

 Thanks for your response.

 The reason I am doing this is that I wanted to test what the different
 electrostatics treatments will affect my results. So the heating up is
 normal by using a plain cut-off and the results can not be trusted, right?


 That is one of the known problems with using cut-off, yes.

 -Justin

  On Wed, Jun 17, 2009 at 5:20 PM, Justin A. Lemkul jalem...@vt.edumailto:
 jalem...@vt.edu wrote:



Yanmei Song wrote:

Dear Users:

I was running a system by non-equilibrium MD using a plain
Cut-off for the electrostatics:

title   =  water
cpp =  /lib/cpp
constraints =  all_bonds
integrator  =  md
dt  =  0.004   ; ps !
nsteps  =  50  ; total 8ns.
nstcomm =  1
nstxout =  5
nstvout =  5
nstfout =  0
nstlog  =  5000
nstenergy   =  5000
nstxtcout   =  25000
nstlist =  10
ns_type =  grid
pbc =  xyz
coulombtype =  Cut-off
rlist   =  0.8
rcoulomb=  0.9
rvdw=  0.8
fourierspacing  =  0.12
ewald_rtol  =  1e-5
;nemd
cos_acceleration=  0.005
; Berendsen temperature coupling is on in two groups
Tcoupl  =  berendsen
tc_grps =  SOL
tau_t   =  0.1
ref_t   =  300
; Energy monitoring
energygrps  =  SOL
; Isotropic pressure coupling is now on
Pcoupl  =  berendsen
pcoupltype  =  isotropic
;pc-grps=  SOL
tau_p   =  1.0
ref_p   =  1.0
compressibility =  4.5e-5

; Generate velocites is off at 300 K.
gen_vel =  yes
gen_temp=  300.0
gen_seed=  10

I can not figure out where I did wrong, the temperature of the
system is 303.54 after 5ns run ( the temperature turns to 303 in
500ps). Thanks for the help in advance!


Why are you using cutoff for coulombtype?  It is the reason for the
heating you are seeing:


 http://oldwww.gromacs.org/pipermail/gmx-users/2009-February/039505.html

-Justin

--Yanmei Song
Ph.D. Candidate
Department of Chemical Engineering
Arizona State University



  

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[gmx-users] g_order and the tpr file

2009-06-18 Thread Age . Skjevik


Dear GROMACS users,

I've simulated a membrane system with AMBER 9.0, and now I'm trying to  
calculate order
parameters for the carbon atoms in the fatty acid tails with the help  
of g_order. I've
converted my AMBER trajectory to gromacs xtc and gro files. How can I  
obtain the tpr file

needed as input for g_order?

Thanks in advance.

Best regards,

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Re: [gmx-users] g_order and the tpr file

2009-06-18 Thread Justin A. Lemkul



age.skje...@biomed.uib.no wrote:


Dear GROMACS users,

I've simulated a membrane system with AMBER 9.0, and now I'm trying to 
calculate order
parameters for the carbon atoms in the fatty acid tails with the help of 
g_order. I've
converted my AMBER trajectory to gromacs xtc and gro files. How can I 
obtain the tpr file

needed as input for g_order?



That will require the generation of a suitable topology; this may or may not 
involve pdb2gmx, depending on if you have a protein present in your system.  If 
you have a pure membrane, you will have to make the topology by hand to include 
the proper .itp files, if you have them.  Chapter 5 of the manual is your friend 
here, as are the various tutorials that are available on the web.


-Justin


Thanks in advance.

Best regards,

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[gmx-users] Final Temp = 303 K ?

2009-06-18 Thread Chih-Ying Lin
Hi
I was running the MD simulation and you the Berendsen method.
Here is my .mdp file.

; Temperature coupling
Tcoupl   = Berendsen
tc-grps  = Protein  Non-Protein
tau_t= 0.1  0.1
ref_t= 300  300


But the final Temp = 303 K
No matter I extend the simulation time, the final Temp = 303 K and it
can not reach the ref_t = 300 K

Does it make sense?


The simulation system is protein + ligand + counter ions.
ligand is the 33-atom molecule.
force field ffG45a3.


Thank you
Lin
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Re: [gmx-users] mpi mdrun

2009-06-18 Thread jayant james
Hi!
After installing GMX without the mpi Igive the following commands
make clean
./configure --enable-mpi --disable-nice --program-suffix=_mpi
I am getting this problem when I give the --enable-mpi option

checking build system type... x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu

checking host system type... x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu

checking for a BSD-compatible install... /usr/bin/install -c

checking whether build environment is sane... yes

checking for a thread-safe mkdir -p... /usr/local/bin/mkdir -p

checking for gawk... gawk

checking whether make sets $(MAKE)... yes

checking how to create a ustar tar archive... gnutar

checking for cc... cc

checking for C compiler default output file name... a.out

checking whether the C compiler works... yes

checking whether we are cross compiling... no

checking for suffix of executables...

checking for suffix of object files... o

checking whether we are using the GNU C compiler... yes

checking whether cc accepts -g... yes

checking for cc option to accept ISO C89... none needed

checking for style of include used by make... GNU

checking dependency style of cc... gcc3

checking dependency style of cc... gcc3

checking for mpxlc... no

checking for mpicc... mpicc

checking whether the MPI cc command works... yes

checking for catamount... no

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checking whether mpicc accepts -O3... yes

checking whether mpicc accepts -funroll-all-loops... yes

checking whether mpicc accepts -O3 -fomit-frame-pointer -finline-functions
-Wall -Wno-unused -funroll-all-loops... yes

checking for grep that handles long lines and -e... /usr/local/bin/grep

checking for egrep... /usr/local/bin/grep -E

checking for ANSI C header files... no

checking for sys/types.h... yes

checking for sys/stat.h... yes

checking for stdlib.h... yes

checking for string.h... yes

checking for memory.h... yes

checking for strings.h... yes

checking for inttypes.h... yes

checking for stdint.h... yes

checking for unistd.h... yes

checking whether byte ordering is bigendian... no

checking for int... yes

checking size of int... configure: error: cannot compute sizeof (int)

See `config.log' for more details.
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Re: [gmx-users] Final Temp = 303 K ?

2009-06-18 Thread Justin A. Lemkul



Chih-Ying Lin wrote:

Hi
I was running the MD simulation and you the Berendsen method.
Here is my .mdp file.

; Temperature coupling
Tcoupl   = Berendsen
tc-grps  = Protein  Non-Protein
tau_t= 0.1  0.1
ref_t= 300  300


But the final Temp = 303 K
No matter I extend the simulation time, the final Temp = 303 K and it
can not reach the ref_t = 300 K

Does it make sense?



If this is the entirety of your .mdp file, then all the other options are 
defaults, including coulombtype = cutoff, which, as was just discussed today, 
leads to heating of the system of the magnitude that you are seeing.


-Justin



The simulation system is protein + ligand + counter ions.
ligand is the 33-atom molecule.
force field ffG45a3.


Thank you
Lin
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[gmx-users] g_energy

2009-06-18 Thread Chih-Ying Lin
Hi
I have read the manual , Appendix C.
After the command g_energy =


Energy  Average   RMSD Fluct.  Drift  Tot-Drift
---
Potential   -196428372.215340.8525.18038518.043
Kinetic En. 37754.5219.122219.116  0.0585484 5.8549
Total Energy-158674302.504261.9855.23893523.899
Temperature 301.8141.751691.75164 0.000468047  0.0468051
Pressure (bar)  346.087165.538165.471   0.16298416.2986
Heat Capacity Cv:  12.4724 J/mol K (factor = 3.36849e-05)


What is the definition of RMSD, Fluct. Drift, Tot-Drift?

Thank you
Lin
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Re: [gmx-users] g_energy

2009-06-18 Thread Justin A. Lemkul



Chih-Ying Lin wrote:

Hi
I have read the manual , Appendix C.
After the command g_energy =


Energy  Average   RMSD Fluct.  Drift  Tot-Drift
---
Potential   -196428372.215340.8525.18038518.043
Kinetic En. 37754.5219.122219.116  0.0585484 5.8549
Total Energy-158674302.504261.9855.23893523.899
Temperature 301.8141.751691.75164 0.000468047  0.0468051
Pressure (bar)  346.087165.538165.471   0.16298416.2986
Heat Capacity Cv:  12.4724 J/mol K (factor = 3.36849e-05)


What is the definition of RMSD, Fluct. Drift, Tot-Drift?



Quoted from the manual, section D.28:

Average and RMSD are calculated with full precision from the simulation (see 
printed manual). Drift is calculated by performing a LSQ fit of the data to a 
straight line. Total drift is drift multiplied by total time. The term 
fluctuation gives the RMSD around the LSQ fit.


-Justin


Thank you
Lin
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Re: [gmx-users] mpi mdrun

2009-06-18 Thread Justin A. Lemkul



jayant james wrote:

Hi!
After installing GMX without the mpi Igive the following commands
make clean
./configure --enable-mpi --disable-nice --program-suffix=_mpi
I am getting this problem when I give the --enable-mpi option


snip



checking size of int... configure: error: cannot compute sizeof (int)

See `config.log' for more details.



Usually config.log has something useful.  Also, use the search page to look for 
cannot compute sizeof (int)


http://oldwww.gromacs.org/swish-e/search/search2.php

or use Google.  This error has come up before several times, and there are a few 
possible solutions.


-Justin







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[gmx-users] more digits

2009-06-18 Thread Shuangxing Dai
Hi, all,
   I need more digits to input information. But the default format of pdb file 
for coordinate is %8.3f. Can I modify the pdbio.c file to achive this goal? Or 
is there any other direct ways to input more digits coordinate information in 
Gromacs?
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[gmx-users] Final Temp = 303 K ?

2009-06-18 Thread Chih-Ying Lin
Hi
Here is my whole md.mdp.
 But the final Temp = 303 K
 No matter I extend the simulation time, the final Temp = 303 K and it
 can not reach the ref_t = 300 K

 Does it make sense?



 The simulation system is protein + ligand + counter ions.
 ligand is the 33-atom molecule.
 force field ffG45a3.


 Thank you
 Lin




; VARIOUS PREPROCESSING OPTIONS
title= Lysozyme
cpp  = /lib/cpp

; RUN CONTROL PARAMETERS
integrator   = md
tinit= 0   ; Starting time
dt   = 0.002   ; 2 femtosecond time step for
integration
nsteps   = 25 ; 500 picoseconds total simulation time
comm_mode= Linear  ; Removing overall translations from
the system
nstcomm  = 1   ; ... and doing so every step

; OUTPUT CONTROL OPTIONS
nstxout  = 1000 ; Writing full precision coordinates
every nanosecond
nstvout  = 0 ; Writing velocities every nanosecond
nstfout  = 0 ; Not writing forces
nstlog   = 0 ; Writing to the log file every step
nstenergy= 1000   ; Writing out energy information every step
nstxtcout= 1000   ; Writing coordinates every step
xtc_precision= 1000  ; Floating point number to integer
scaling
xtc-grps = System
energygrps   = Protein Non-Protein

; NEIGHBORSEARCHING PARAMETERS
nstlist  = 5
ns-type  = Grid
pbc  = xyz
rlist= 0.9

; OPTIONS FOR ELECTROSTATICS AND VDW
coulombtype  = Reaction-Field
rcoulomb = 1.4
epsilon_rf   = 78
epsilon_r= 1
vdw-type = Cut-off
rvdw = 1.4

; Temperature coupling
Tcoupl   = Berendsen
tc-grps  = Protein  Non-Protein
tau_t= 0.1  0.1
ref_t= 300  300
; Pressure coupling
Pcoupl   = Berendsen
Pcoupltype   = Isotropic
tau_p= 1.0
compressibility  = 4.5e-5
ref_p= 1.0

; GENERATE VELOCITIES FOR STARTUP RUN
gen_vel  = no
gen_temp = 300.0
gen_seed = 173529

; OPTIONS FOR BONDS
constraints  = all-bonds
constraint-algorithm = Lincs
unconstrained-start  = yes
lincs-order  = 4
lincs-iter   = 1
lincs-warnangle  = 30
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Re: [gmx-users] Final Temp = 303 K ?

2009-06-18 Thread Justin A. Lemkul



Chih-Ying Lin wrote:

Hi
Here is my whole md.mdp.
 But the final Temp = 303 K
 No matter I extend the simulation time, the final Temp = 303 K and it
 can not reach the ref_t = 300 K

 Does it make sense?




Yes, and I explained why.  Specify options yourself, don't rely on defaults!

-Justin



 The simulation system is protein + ligand + counter ions.
 ligand is the 33-atom molecule.
 force field ffG45a3.


 Thank you
 Lin




; VARIOUS PREPROCESSING OPTIONS
title= Lysozyme
cpp  = /lib/cpp

; RUN CONTROL PARAMETERS
integrator   = md
tinit= 0   ; Starting time
dt   = 0.002   ; 2 femtosecond time step for
integration
nsteps   = 25 ; 500 picoseconds total simulation time
comm_mode= Linear  ; Removing overall translations from
the system
nstcomm  = 1   ; ... and doing so every step

; OUTPUT CONTROL OPTIONS
nstxout  = 1000 ; Writing full precision coordinates
every nanosecond
nstvout  = 0 ; Writing velocities every nanosecond
nstfout  = 0 ; Not writing forces
nstlog   = 0 ; Writing to the log file every step
nstenergy= 1000   ; Writing out energy information every step
nstxtcout= 1000   ; Writing coordinates every step
xtc_precision= 1000  ; Floating point number to integer
scaling
xtc-grps = System
energygrps   = Protein Non-Protein

; NEIGHBORSEARCHING PARAMETERS
nstlist  = 5
ns-type  = Grid
pbc  = xyz
rlist= 0.9

; OPTIONS FOR ELECTROSTATICS AND VDW
coulombtype  = Reaction-Field
rcoulomb = 1.4
epsilon_rf   = 78
epsilon_r= 1
vdw-type = Cut-off
rvdw = 1.4

; Temperature coupling
Tcoupl   = Berendsen
tc-grps  = Protein  Non-Protein
tau_t= 0.1  0.1
ref_t= 300  300
; Pressure coupling
Pcoupl   = Berendsen
Pcoupltype   = Isotropic
tau_p= 1.0
compressibility  = 4.5e-5
ref_p= 1.0

; GENERATE VELOCITIES FOR STARTUP RUN
gen_vel  = no
gen_temp = 300.0
gen_seed = 173529

; OPTIONS FOR BONDS
constraints  = all-bonds
constraint-algorithm = Lincs
unconstrained-start  = yes
lincs-order  = 4
lincs-iter   = 1
lincs-warnangle  = 30
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[gmx-users] g_energy = both instantaneous and average

2009-06-18 Thread Chih-Ying Lin
Hi
I have read throught the Appendix C.
The following is the .mdp file.


Type the command
g_energy -f abc-NVT500.edr -o abc-NVT500.xvg

choose Pressure


Based on my understanding of the Appendix C =
g_energy will print out the instantaneous Pressure every 1000 step and
save it into abc-NVT500.xvg. There are overall 250 instantaneous
Pressure recorded.
 (overall steps = 25= 25/1000=250)



And, the average pressure is shown on the screen.
the average pressure = (sum of the 250 instantanous pressure) / 250

Also , the value of RMSD  Fluct.  Drift  Tot-Drift  are also
calculated from the 250 instantaneous pressure?


Is anything wrong above ?

Thank you
Lin



; RUN CONTROL PARAMETERS
integrator   = md
tinit= 0   ; Starting time
dt   = 0.002   ; 2 femtosecond time step for
integration
nsteps   = 25 ; 500 picoseconds total simulation time
comm_mode= Linear  ; Removing overall translations from
the system
nstcomm  = 1   ; ... and doing so every step

; OUTPUT CONTROL OPTIONS
nstxout  = 1000 ; Writing full precision coordinates
every nanosecond
nstvout  = 0 ; Writing velocities every nanosecond
nstfout  = 0 ; Not writing forces
nstlog   = 0 ; Writing to the log file every step
nstenergy= 1000   ; Writing out energy information every step
nstxtcout= 1000   ; Writing coordinates every step
xtc_precision= 1000  ; Floating point number to integer
scaling
xtc-grps = System
energygrps   = Protein Non-Protein
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[gmx-users] coulombtype = Reaction-Field = heat up the system

2009-06-18 Thread Chih-Ying Lin
Hi
 I set up Tcoupl = Berendsen.
 ref_t = 300 K
 the final Temp = 303 K
 No matter I extend the simulation time, the final Temp = 303 K and it
 can not reach the ref_t = 300 K

 Does it make sense?
 the final Temp = 303 K  and stable.
 Can I analyze the data from this simulation?


 The simulation system is protein + ligand + counter ions.
 ligand is the 33-atom molecule.
 force field ffG45a3.



; Temperature coupling
Tcoupl   = Berendsen
tc-grps  = Protein  Non-Protein
tau_t= 0.1  0.1
ref_t= 300  300



; OPTIONS FOR ELECTROSTATICS AND VDW
coulombtype  = Reaction-Field
rcoulomb = 1.4
epsilon_rf   = 78
epsilon_r= 1
vdw-type = Cut-off
rvdw = 1.4


 Thank you
 Lin
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[gmx-users] g_energy = RMSD = Standard Deviation?

2009-06-18 Thread Chih-Ying Lin
HI
After  the command g_energy =
the value of RMSD is shown,

I can not find the math definition of RMSD from manual.
Is the math definition of RMSD = Standard Deviation in Statistics?

Thank you
Lin
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Re: [gmx-users] g_energy = RMSD = Standard Deviation?

2009-06-18 Thread Justin A. Lemkul



Chih-Ying Lin wrote:

HI
After  the command g_energy =
the value of RMSD is shown,

I can not find the math definition of RMSD from manual.
Is the math definition of RMSD = Standard Deviation in Statistics?



First Google result for root mean square deviation:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Root_mean_square_deviation

-Justin


Thank you
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[gmx-users] trjconv -pbc -center

2009-06-18 Thread Chih-Ying Lin
Hi
I have a protein+several ligand in the simulation box.
After 5ns, the protein drift to the right edge of the box and the
ligand drift to the left edge of the box. I supposed that the ligands
dock/attach on the protein.
I want to center the protein and see if the ligands dock/attach on the protein.

The command trjconv is used.
I have tried different option -pbc and -center.
Even though I center the protein, but the ligand is still away from the protein.
It seems not make sense.


with option -pbc cluster
the computer was running and never end.

so, how can i use trjconv command to center protein and to see the
ligand attaching on the protein?


Thank you
Lin




Option -pbc sets the type of periodic boundary condition treatment:
* mol puts the center of mass of molecules in the box.
* res puts the center of mass of residues in the box.
* atom puts all the atoms in the box.
* nojump checks if atoms jump across the box and then puts them back.
* cluster clusters all the atoms in the selected index such that they are all
closest to the center of mass of the cluster which is iteratively updated.
Note that this will only give meaningful results if you in fact have a
cluster. Luckily that can be checked afterwards using a trajectory viewer.
Note also that if your molecules are broken this will not work either.
* whole only makes broken molecules whole.




Option -center centers the system in the box. The user can select the group
which is used to determine the geometrical center. The location of the center
is set with -boxcenter: tric: half of the sum of the box vectors, rect: half
of the box diagonal, zero: zero. Use option -pbc mol in addition to -center
when you want all molecules in the box after the centering.
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Re: [gmx-users] trjconv -pbc -center

2009-06-18 Thread Justin A. Lemkul



Chih-Ying Lin wrote:

Hi
I have a protein+several ligand in the simulation box.
After 5ns, the protein drift to the right edge of the box and the
ligand drift to the left edge of the box. I supposed that the ligands
dock/attach on the protein.
I want to center the protein and see if the ligands dock/attach on the protein.

The command trjconv is used.
I have tried different option -pbc and -center.
Even though I center the protein, but the ligand is still away from the protein.
It seems not make sense.


with option -pbc cluster
the computer was running and never end.

so, how can i use trjconv command to center protein and to see the
ligand attaching on the protein?



Well, does the association you expect actually occur?  It seems to me that if 
you center the protein in the box, and the ligands do not associate, then you 
can't force it to happen with trjconv.


-Justin



Thank you
Lin




Option -pbc sets the type of periodic boundary condition treatment:
* mol puts the center of mass of molecules in the box.
* res puts the center of mass of residues in the box.
* atom puts all the atoms in the box.
* nojump checks if atoms jump across the box and then puts them back.
* cluster clusters all the atoms in the selected index such that they are all
closest to the center of mass of the cluster which is iteratively updated.
Note that this will only give meaningful results if you in fact have a
cluster. Luckily that can be checked afterwards using a trajectory viewer.
Note also that if your molecules are broken this will not work either.
* whole only makes broken molecules whole.




Option -center centers the system in the box. The user can select the group
which is used to determine the geometrical center. The location of the center
is set with -boxcenter: tric: half of the sum of the box vectors, rect: half
of the box diagonal, zero: zero. Use option -pbc mol in addition to -center
when you want all molecules in the box after the centering.
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Re: [gmx-users] trjconv -pbc -center

2009-06-18 Thread Daniel Adriano Silva M
Hi,

I answered a very similar question last week but it appears that
gmx-users is not online by now: try to use this script. And be aware
to re-wrap code lines as my mail splits it. Please comment if it
actually works for you.

Best.
Daniel

***
Usage notes:

- Just copy/and/paste the code on a textfile and make it executable
with chmod 700, !!!take care of broken/split lines by email/post
artifacts!!!
- I use mdrun with -deffnm for the outputs; therefore this script is
made to work when all the output files have the same name.
- Do not forget to replace the *** field for the GROBIN variable on the code.
- On the code 0 and 1 are the index groups for system and protein
respectively. However, for any complex the trick to have a nice
representation is to center the system only on one of the proteins,
for example, for me:
 echo -e del 1-14\n r 1-238\n r 1-239\n q\n |
$GROBIN/make_ndx -f pre1_$NAME.gro -o pre1_$NAME.ndx
makes the trick, since it erases all the groups from my index, except
system, and then creates the group 1 only for one of my proteins
(residues 1-238) and additionally the group 2 used to output  my
complex in the absence of waters (residues 1-239).

To run use:
 ./scriptname
PATH-TO-DINAMIC/MDOUTPUT-NAME-WITHOUT-DOT-OR-EXTENSIONS  OUTPUT-NAME
Example:
 ./filterscript  /home/dsilva/dynamic/production/md  filteredmd

***
CODE:
***


#!/bin/bash
#Daniel Silva, script to filter trajectories
   PATH=$1
   NAME=$2
   GROBIN=/usr/local/gromacs/bin   #MODIFY THIS LINE TO POINT TO
YOUR GROMACS BINARIES PATH
   /bin/cp $PATH.tpr ./$NAME-filtered.tpr
   echo -e 0\n| $GROBIN/trjconv -f $PATH -s
$NAME-filtered.tpr -pbc whole  -o pre1_$NAME
   echo -e 0\n| $GROBIN/trjconv -f $PATH -s
$NAME-filtered.tpr -pbc whole  -o pre1_$NAME.gro -e 0
### Modify the next line if you have any kind of complex, in order to
make group 1 pointing only to one of proteins in the complex.
(Example: echo -e del 1-14\n r 1-238\n r 1-239\n q\n |
$GROBIN/make_ndx -f pre1_$NAME.gro -o pre1_$NAME.ndx)
   echo -e q\n | $GROBIN/make_ndx -f pre1_$NAME.gro -o pre1_$NAME.ndx
   echo -e 1\n0\n | $GROBIN/trjconv -f pre1_$NAME -s
$NAME-filtered.tpr -pbc atom -ur compact -center -n pre1_$NAME.ndx -o
pre2_$NAME
   echo -e 1\n0\n | $GROBIN/trjconv -f pre2_$NAME -s
$NAME-filtered.tpr -fit rot+trans -n pre1_$NAME.ndx -o $NAME-filtered
   echo -e 0\n| $GROBIN/trjconv -f $NAME-filtered -s
$NAME-filtered.tpr -e 0 -n pre1_$NAME.ndx -o $NAME-filtered.gro
### If you also want to output trajectories without waters uncomment
the next two lines. Also, if you have complexes take care of the group
that you are sending to the output (Example, for me it needs to be
group 2 not 1; echo -e 1\n2\n and echo -e 2\n, respectively for
the next two lines)
#   echo -e 1\n1\n | $GROBIN/trjconv -f pre2_$NAME -s
$NAME-filtered.tpr -fit rot+trans -n pre1_$NAME.ndx -o
$NAME-filtered-NoHOH
#   echo -e 1\n| $GROBIN/trjconv -f $NAME-filtered -s
$NAME-filtered.tpr -e 0 -n pre1_$NAME.ndx -o $NAME-filtered-NoHOH.gro
   /bin/rm ./pre*_$NAME.*



###CODE END




2009/6/18 Justin A. Lemkul jalem...@vt.edu:


 Chih-Ying Lin wrote:

 Hi
 I have a protein+several ligand in the simulation box.
 After 5ns, the protein drift to the right edge of the box and the
 ligand drift to the left edge of the box. I supposed that the ligands
 dock/attach on the protein.
 I want to center the protein and see if the ligands dock/attach on the
 protein.

 The command trjconv is used.
 I have tried different option -pbc and -center.
 Even though I center the protein, but the ligand is still away from the
 protein.
 It seems not make sense.


 with option -pbc cluster
 the computer was running and never end.

 so, how can i use trjconv command to center protein and to see the
 ligand attaching on the protein?


 Well, does the association you expect actually occur?  It seems to me that
 if you center the protein in the box, and the ligands do not associate, then
 you can't force it to happen with trjconv.

 -Justin


 Thank you
 Lin




 Option -pbc sets the type of periodic boundary condition treatment:
 * mol puts the center of mass of molecules in the box.
 * res puts the center of mass of residues in the box.
 * atom puts all the atoms in the box.
 * nojump checks if atoms jump across the box and then puts them back.
 * cluster clusters all the atoms in the selected index such that they are
 all
 closest to the center of mass of the cluster which is iteratively updated.
 Note that this will only give meaningful results if you in fact have a
 cluster. Luckily that can be checked afterwards using a trajectory viewer.
 Note also that if your molecules are broken this will not work either.
 * whole only makes broken molecules whole.




 Option -center centers the system in the box. The user can select the
 group
 which is used to determine the geometrical center. 

[gmx-users] trjconv -pbc atom -center rect

2009-06-18 Thread Chih-Ying Lin
Hi
I have a protein+several ligand in the simulation box.
After 5ns, the protein drift to the right edge of the box and the
ligand drift to the left edge of the box.

with this command =
trjconv -pbc atom -center rect
the most part of the protein is still in the right edge of the box
the small part of the protein is shifted in the left edge of the box
and i can clearly see that the ligand attach onto the protein.


but, the protein is NOT in the center of the box ???

so, how can i use trjconv command to center protein and to see the
ligand attaching on the protein?


Thank you
Lin
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Re: [gmx-users] more digits

2009-06-18 Thread Mark Abraham
Shuangxing Dai wrote:
 Hi, all,
I need more digits to input information. But the default format of 
 pdb file for coordinate is %8.3f. Can I modify the pdbio.c file to 
 achive this goal? Or is there any other direct ways to input more digits 
 coordinate information in Gromacs?

Use a .g96 file for input. Virtually all GROMACS tools accept many
possible formats when a coordinate file is required.

Mark
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[gmx-users] The Cut-off for coulombtype heat up the water system?

2009-06-18 Thread Chih-Ying Lin
Hi
People conclude that the heating up is normal by using a plain cut-off.
So, how to fix the problem?
1. From Berk = use multiple groups.
= how  ???
= I have been thinking that it is better to group the molecule
= such as: protein , non-protein

2. change the coulombtype without the coulomb cut-off rcoulomb ?
= such as PME, PPPM ?
= what's the suggestion about this?

3. Normally, how do people fix this problem?


Thank you
Lin







http://oldwww.gromacs.org/pipermail/gmx-users/2009-February/039505.html

No, this problem is not due to the Berendsen thermostat.
The integrations errors in the electrostatics have much more effect
on the water than on the protein, because the water has higher charges
and is far more mobile. No thermostat can correct for these errors,
unless you use multiple groups.
In addition the Berendsen thermostat will move energy from fast to
slow motions. This effects becomes much stronger when the thermostat
has to do a lot of scaling due to the heat generated by cut-off's.

Inaccurate constraining will remove heat from the system, but this
effect is orders of magnitude smaller than the Coulomb cut-off heating.

Berk



Dear Justin:

Thanks for your response.

The reason I am doing this is that I wanted to test what the different
electrostatics treatments will affect my results. So the heating up is
normal by using a plain cut-off and the results can not be trusted, right?

On Wed, Jun 17, 2009 at 5:20 PM, Justin A. Lemkul jalem...@vt.edu wrote:



 Yanmei Song wrote:

 Dear Users:

 I was running a system by non-equilibrium MD using a plain Cut-off for the
 electrostatics:

 title   =  water
 cpp =  /lib/cpp
 constraints =  all_bonds
 integrator  =  md
 dt  =  0.004   ; ps !
 nsteps  =  50  ; total 8ns.
 nstcomm =  1
 nstxout =  5
 nstvout =  5
 nstfout =  0
 nstlog  =  5000
 nstenergy   =  5000
 nstxtcout   =  25000
 nstlist =  10
 ns_type =  grid
 pbc =  xyz
 coulombtype =  Cut-off
 rlist   =  0.8
 rcoulomb=  0.9
 rvdw=  0.8
 fourierspacing  =  0.12
 ewald_rtol  =  1e-5
 ;nemd
 cos_acceleration=  0.005
 ; Berendsen temperature coupling is on in two groups
 Tcoupl  =  berendsen
 tc_grps =  SOL
 tau_t   =  0.1
 ref_t   =  300
 ; Energy monitoring
 energygrps  =  SOL
 ; Isotropic pressure coupling is now on
 Pcoupl  =  berendsen
 pcoupltype  =  isotropic
 ;pc-grps=  SOL
 tau_p   =  1.0
 ref_p   =  1.0
 compressibility =  4.5e-5

 ; Generate velocites is off at 300 K.
 gen_vel =  yes
 gen_temp=  300.0
 gen_seed=  10

 I can not figure out where I did wrong, the temperature of the system is
 303.54 after 5ns run ( the temperature turns to 303 in 500ps). Thanks for
 the help in advance!


 Why are you using cutoff for coulombtype?  It is the reason for the heating
 you are seeing:

 http://oldwww.gromacs.org/pipermail/gmx-users/2009-February/039505.html

 -Justin

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[gmx-users] Re: x2top (David van der Spoel)

2009-06-18 Thread danilo gonzalez
mr spoel, i have the .top for my system using PRODRG, but when I try run
this .top with the next command  editconf -bt cubic –f DRGFIN.gro  –o
poli12.pdb –d 0.9, the program gives me the next error message
__-
Program editconf, VERSION 3.3.3
Source code file: ../../../../src/gmxlib/statutil.c, line: 797

Invalid command line argument:
–f
__

Why??, what is the problem?, please help me

I add the .top file generated by PRODRG

PRODRG COORDS
  143
1DRG  CAG  1  -0.354  -0.675  -1.939
1DRG  CAH  2  -0.265  -0.690  -2.047
1DRG  CAI  3  -0.164  -0.593  -2.067
1DRG  CAJ  4  -0.151  -0.482  -1.981
1DRG  CAK  5  -0.242  -0.469  -1.874
1DRG  CAF  6  -0.345  -0.564  -1.850
1DRG  CAD  7  -0.447  -0.550  -1.732
1DRG  CAC  8  -0.489  -0.686  -1.672
1DRG  CAB  9  -0.608  -0.704  -1.602
1DRG  CAA 10  -0.639  -0.841  -1.540
1DRG  CAE 11  -0.398  -0.471  -1.610
1DRG  CAL 12  -0.372  -0.321  -1.624
1DRG  CAM 13  -0.264  -0.302  -1.540
1DRG  CAN 14  -0.239  -0.181  -1.479
1DRG  CAO 15  -0.145  -0.173  -1.357
1DRG  CAQ 16  -0.131  -0.028  -1.303
1DRG  CAR 17  -0.028  -0.002  -1.210
1DRG  CAS 18  -0.016   0.126  -1.151
1DRG  CAT 19  -0.109   0.227  -1.186
1DRG  CAU 20  -0.212   0.203  -1.279
1DRG  CAV 21  -0.223   0.075  -1.337
1DRG  CAP 22  -0.200  -0.267  -1.245
1DRG  CAW 23  -0.328  -0.212  -1.181
1DRG  CAX 24  -0.420  -0.298  -1.124
1DRG  CAY 25  -0.489  -0.238  -1.019
1DRG  CAZ 26  -0.618  -0.281  -0.945
1DRG  CBB 27  -0.722  -0.164  -0.954
1DRG  CBC 28  -0.717  -0.061  -1.053
1DRG  CBD 29  -0.810   0.045  -1.055
1DRG  CBE 30  -0.911   0.049  -0.955
1DRG  CBF 31  -0.919  -0.051  -0.856
1DRG  CBG 32  -0.825  -0.156  -0.856
1DRG  CBA 33  -0.673  -0.419  -0.989
1DRG  CBH 34  -0.778  -0.476  -0.892
1DRG  CBI 35  -0.850  -0.593  -0.923
1DRG  CBJ 36  -0.954  -0.622  -1.013
1DRG  CBK 37  -1.023  -0.547  -1.130
1DRG  CBM 38  -1.175  -0.524  -1.112
1DRG  CBN 39  -1.261  -0.595  -1.200
1DRG  CBO 40  -1.400  -0.572  -1.197
1DRG  CBP 41  -1.453  -0.479  -1.106
1DRG  CBQ 42  -1.369  -0.408  -1.017
1DRG  CBR 43  -1.230  -0.431  -1.020
1DRG  CBL 44  -0.959  -0.413  -1.170
1DRG  CBS 45  -0.997  -0.363  -1.309
1DRG  CBT 46  -1.054  -0.238  -1.293
1DRG  CBU 47  -1.025  -0.142  -1.389
1DRG  CBV 48  -1.078   0.003  -1.397
1DRG  CBX 49  -1.127   0.030  -1.544
1DRG  CBY 50  -1.063  -0.033  -1.655
1DRG  CBZ 51  -1.103  -0.008  -1.787
1DRG  CCA 52  -1.210   0.082  -1.810
1DRG  CCB 53  -1.276   0.146  -1.703
1DRG  CCC 54  -1.233   0.120  -1.571
1DRG  CBW 55  -1.184   0.035  -1.288
1DRG  CCD 56  -1.175   0.182  -1.247
1DRG  CCE 57  -1.260   0.231  -1.147
1DRG  CCF 58  -1.354   0.329  -1.182
1DRG  CCG 59  -1.414   0.426  -1.078
1DRG  CCI 60  -1.428   0.565  -1.147
1DRG  CCJ 61  -1.552   0.620  -1.189
1DRG  CCK 62  -1.558   0.747  -1.249
1DRG  CCL 63  -1.439   0.819  -1.269
1DRG  CCM 64  -1.314   0.767  -1.229
1DRG  CCN 65  -1.309   0.640  -1.168
1DRG  CCH 66  -1.546   0.378  -1.012
1DRG  CCO 67  -1.579   0.462  -0.887
1DRG  CCP 68  -1.713   0.465  -0.851
1DRG  CCQ 69  -1.792   0.579  -0.875
1DRG  CCR 70  -1.938   0.595  -0.827
1DRG  CCT 71  -2.006   0.728  -0.871
1DRG  CCU 72  -1.952   0.816  -0.968
1DRG  CCV 73  -2.020   0.935  -1.003
1DRG  CCW 74  -2.142   0.966  -0.940
1DRG  CCX 75  -2.198   0.880  -0.842
1DRG  CCY 76  -2.129   0.762  -0.808
1DRG  CCS 77  -2.031   0.475  -0.860
1DRG  CCZ 78  -2.050   0.432  -1.006
1DRG  CDA 79  -2.152   0.492  -1.080
1DRG  CDB 80  -2.268   0.421  -1.112
1DRG  CDC 81  -2.372   0.462  -1.220
1DRG  CDE 82  -2.519   0.462  -1.170
1DRG  CDF 83  -2.618   0.412  -1.259
1DRG  CDG 84  -2.755   0.415  -1.224
1DRG  CDH 85  -2.792   0.469  -1.099
1DRG  CDI 86  -2.695   0.519  -1.009
1DRG  CDJ 87  -2.558   0.515  -1.045
1DRG  CDD 88  -2.346   0.598  -1.286
1DRG  CDK 89  -2.390   0.600  -1.433
1DRG  CDL 90  -2.425   0.728  -1.473
1DRG  CDM 91  -2.559   0.765  -1.486
1DRG  CDN 92  -2.599   0.910  -1.515
1DRG  CDP 93  -2.751   0.928  -1.538
1DRG  CDQ 94  -2.793   1.025  -1.633
1DRG  CDR 95  -2.931   1.049  -1.654
1DRG  CDS 96  -3.026   0.975  -1.581
1DRG  CDT 97  -2.986   0.878  -1.486
1DRG  CDU 98  -2.849   0.855  -1.465
1DRG  CDO 99  -2.559   0.994  -1.393

Re: [gmx-users] The Cut-off for coulombtype heat up the water system?

2009-06-18 Thread Mark Abraham

Chih-Ying Lin wrote:

Hi
People conclude that the heating up is normal by using a plain cut-off.
So, how to fix the problem?


0. Do more background reading. :-)


1. From Berk = use multiple groups.
= how  ???
= I have been thinking that it is better to group the molecule
= such as: protein , non-protein

2. change the coulombtype without the coulomb cut-off rcoulomb ?
= such as PME, PPPM ?
= what's the suggestion about this?

3. Normally, how do people fix this problem?


These days, PME will tend to be the easiest to defend in a publication. 
You will have lower heating problems with various modified forms of 
cut-offs and/or longer cut-offs, but then you have the problem of 
justifying the use of the force field, which was probably parametrized 
for some other coulomb scheme.


Mark
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[gmx-users] g_energy = RMSD vs Fluctuation

2009-06-18 Thread Chih-Ying Lin
Hi
The definition of the Fluctuation is shown on the Manual, Appendix C, eqn (C.1)
The definition of the RMSD is as shown from the link.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Root_mean_square_deviation
The definition of the estimators is unclear though.

So, what is the definition of the estimators?

The following is showing one set of the results from g_energy.
= The RMSD of Temp, Pressure, Kinetic En. correspond to their Fluct.
= The RMSD of Potential and Total Energy do NOT correspond to their Fluct.


I think that the definition of the estimators of Temp, Pressure,
Kinetic En. are their average values, am I right?

How about the definition of the estimators of Potential and Total Energy ?
Thank you
Lin



Energy  Average   RMSD Fluct.  Drift  Tot-Drift
---
Potential   -196428372.215340.8525.18038518.043
Kinetic En. 37754.5219.122219.116  0.0585484 5.8549
Total Energy-158674302.504261.9855.23893523.899
Temperature 301.8141.751691.75164 0.000468047  0.0468051
Pressure (bar)  346.087165.538165.471   0.16298416.2986
Heat Capacity Cv:  12.4724 J/mol K (factor = 3.36849e-05)
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