[gmx-users] On dihedral type for CHARMM

2011-04-10 Thread Mr Bernard Ramos
Hi everyone! 
 
I am currently studying CHARMM ff and I have a question on the functional type 
of the CHARMM dihedral. On the ffbonded.itp, the function type for CHARMM 
dihedrals is 9. However, this functional type is not listed on Table 5.5 of the 
manual. I read that there are 9 supported functional types for dihedrals. Am I 
correct to assume that func=9is for the CHARMM dihedrals. 
 
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Re: [gmx-users] On dihedral type for CHARMM

2011-04-10 Thread Mark Abraham

On 10/04/2011 4:12 PM, Mr Bernard Ramos wrote:

Hi everyone!
I am currently studying CHARMM ff and I have a question on the 
functional type of the CHARMM dihedral. On the ffbonded.itp, the 
function type for CHARMM dihedrals is 9. However, this functional type 
is not listed on Table 5.5 of the manual. I read that there are 9 
supported functional types for dihedrals. Am I correct to assume that 
func=9is for the CHARMM dihedrals.




I suspect your manual version is not up-to-date. The latest manual 
release(s) have dihedral type 9 (which is the same as 1, but you can 
have multiple of them in a [dihedraltypes] section).


Mark
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[gmx-users] Extending Simulation

2011-04-10 Thread mohsen ramezanpour
Dear All
I used the following commands accoring to Extending Simulation in
gromacs/Documentation/how-tos/Extending Simulation
to extend my simulation.
I entered:

tpbconv  -s  npt-1.tpr-extend  100  -o npt-1-extend.tpr

nohup mpirun -np 4 mdrun -s  npt-1-extend.tpr  -cpi  npt-1.cpt

Ii run this command on a node with 4 cpu.
the result was these files:
confout.gro , state.cpt   ,md.log  , traj.trr  ,state_prev.cpt  ,ener.edr ,
#confout.gro.1# ,#confout.gro.2# ,#confout.gro.3# ,# ener.edr.1#
,#ener.edr.2# ,#md.log.1 #,#traj.trr.1# ,#traj.trr.2# ,

I extended 4 files on 4 distinct nodes!
it is excellent,because the number of outputs was different, for example one
node produced 3 md.log and 4 confout.gro !

The main question is:
which one of the resulted outputs are the main result? on wich do  I must
analyse?

thanks in advance for your ideas
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Re: [gmx-users] Extending Simulation

2011-04-10 Thread Mark Abraham

On 10/04/2011 5:40 PM, mohsen ramezanpour wrote:

Dear All
I used the following commands accoring to Extending Simulation in 
gromacs/Documentation/how-tos/Extending Simulation

to extend my simulation.
I entered:

tpbconv  -s  npt-1.tpr-extend  100  -o npt-1-extend.tpr

nohup mpirun -np 4 mdrun -s  npt-1-extend.tpr  -cpi  npt-1.cpt

Ii run this command on a node with 4 cpu.
the result was these files:
confout.gro , state.cpt   ,md.log  , traj.trr  ,state_prev.cpt  
,ener.edr ,
#confout.gro.1# ,#confout.gro.2# ,#confout.gro.3# ,# ener.edr.1# 
,#ener.edr.2# ,#md.log.1 #,#traj.trr.1# ,#traj.trr.2# ,


I extended 4 files on 4 distinct nodes!


That's not the behaviour you were looking for. You've run the same .tpr 
four times, once on each CPU. This is because mdrun was not compiled 
with MPI. See the installation instructions.


it is excellent,because the number of outputs was different, for 
example one node produced 3 md.log and 4 confout.gro !


The main question is:
which one of the resulted outputs are the main result? on wich do  I 
must analyse?


They should all be equivalent, but not necessarily binary identical.

Mark
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[gmx-users] NPT.mdp parameters NOTE

2011-04-10 Thread mohsen ramezanpour
Dear Dr.Justin

As you have noticed in your tutorials,It is better to use Nose-Hoover for
tempreture in the NPT.mdp file.
You have used tau-t = 0.1 in most of your md.mdp files for generating npt
ensemble.

When I use a npt file with these settings,there is a Note as following:
sorry,i can't remember the exact messge but :it says it is better to use a
tau_t   20 times of another quantity,
in my work the quantity=0.01

When I made tau_t=0.2 there was not any Note!

Can I ignore this Note?Is it safe continuing with the same tau_t=0.1 as you
used?
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Re: [gmx-users] Extending Simulation

2011-04-10 Thread mohsen ramezanpour
Dear Dr.Mark

On Sun, Apr 10, 2011 at 12:20 PM, Mark Abraham mark.abra...@anu.edu.auwrote:

 On 10/04/2011 5:40 PM, mohsen ramezanpour wrote:

 Dear All
 I used the following commands accoring to Extending Simulation in
 gromacs/Documentation/how-tos/Extending Simulation
 to extend my simulation.
 I entered:

 tpbconv  -s  npt-1.tpr-extend  100  -o npt-1-extend.tpr

 nohup mpirun -np 4 mdrun -s  npt-1-extend.tpr  -cpi  npt-1.cpt

 Ii run this command on a node with 4 cpu.
 the result was these files:
 confout.gro , state.cpt   ,md.log  , traj.trr  ,state_prev.cpt  ,ener.edr
 ,
 #confout.gro.1# ,#confout.gro.2# ,#confout.gro.3# ,# ener.edr.1#
 ,#ener.edr.2# ,#md.log.1 #,#traj.trr.1# ,#traj.trr.2# ,

 I extended 4 files on 4 distinct nodes!


 That's not the behaviour you were looking for. You've run the same .tpr
 four times, once on each CPU. This is because mdrun was not compiled with
 MPI. See the installation instructions.

 I think I explained bad.let me explain it more:
Suppose I entered the above commands on just one node(with 4 cpu) for
npt-1.tpr (just one time I entered these commands)

besides if you were right it would result the same outputs when I run it on
different nodes with the same commands,please see below!



  it is excellent,because the number of outputs was different, for example
 one node produced 3 md.log and 4 confout.gro !

 The main question is:
 which one of the resulted outputs are the main result? on wich do  I must
 analyse?


 They should all be equivalent, but not necessarily binary identical.

Actually I checked all of them,they are different,with different averages of
quantities,
and all of them show a final text that means the program finished
succesfully!

what do you think Dr.Mark?
Thanks in advance for your reply


 Mark
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Re: [gmx-users] Extending Simulation

2011-04-10 Thread Mark Abraham

On 10/04/2011 6:04 PM, mohsen ramezanpour wrote:

Dear Dr.Mark

On Sun, Apr 10, 2011 at 12:20 PM, Mark Abraham 
mark.abra...@anu.edu.au mailto:mark.abra...@anu.edu.au wrote:


On 10/04/2011 5:40 PM, mohsen ramezanpour wrote:

Dear All
I used the following commands accoring to Extending Simulation
in gromacs/Documentation/how-tos/Extending Simulation
to extend my simulation.
I entered:

tpbconv  -s  npt-1.tpr-extend  100  -o npt-1-extend.tpr

nohup mpirun -np 4 mdrun -s  npt-1-extend.tpr  -cpi  npt-1.cpt

Ii run this command on a node with 4 cpu.
the result was these files:
confout.gro , state.cpt   ,md.log  , traj.trr  ,state_prev.cpt
 ,ener.edr ,
#confout.gro.1# ,#confout.gro.2# ,#confout.gro.3# ,#
ener.edr.1# ,#ener.edr.2# ,#md.log.1 #,#traj.trr.1#
,#traj.trr.2# ,

I extended 4 files on 4 distinct nodes!


That's not the behaviour you were looking for. You've run the same
.tpr four times, once on each CPU. This is because mdrun was not
compiled with MPI. See the installation instructions.

I think I explained bad.let me explain it more:
Suppose I entered the above commands on just one node(with 4 cpu) for 
npt-1.tpr (just one time I entered these commands)


You seem to have used mpirun to run four different mdrun processes, each 
using the same .tpr, one on each cpu. You should be trying to run one 
mdrun_mpi using that .tpr, but all four cpus working on the same run.


Look at the top few lines of your .log. That will tell you how many 
nodes mdrun thought it was running on. I think you will see NNODES=1. 
If so, don't use this mdrun with mpirun.


besides if you were right it would result the same outputs when I run 
it on different nodes with the same commands,please see below!


Not strictly true. See 
http://www.gromacs.org/Documentation/Terminology/Reproducibility




it is excellent,because the number of outputs was different,
for example one node produced 3 md.log and 4 confout.gro !

The main question is:
which one of the resulted outputs are the main result? on wich
do  I must analyse?


They should all be equivalent, but not necessarily binary identical.

Actually I checked all of them,they are different,with different 
averages of quantities,
and all of them show a final text that means the program finished 
succesfully!


The averages being the same or different merely reflect whether your run 
was reproducible. Assuming there was no output files in your working 
directory to start with, you've run the same irreproducible run four 
times, because you're using a non-MPI mdrun.


Mark
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Re: [gmx-users] Extending Simulation

2011-04-10 Thread mohsen ramezanpour
Dear Dr.Mark
Thank you very much
you are right
I understood your mean exactly,

On Sun, Apr 10, 2011 at 12:44 PM, Mark Abraham mark.abra...@anu.edu.auwrote:

  On 10/04/2011 6:04 PM, mohsen ramezanpour wrote:

 Dear Dr.Mark

 On Sun, Apr 10, 2011 at 12:20 PM, Mark Abraham mark.abra...@anu.edu.auwrote:

 On 10/04/2011 5:40 PM, mohsen ramezanpour wrote:

 Dear All
 I used the following commands accoring to Extending Simulation in
 gromacs/Documentation/how-tos/Extending Simulation
 to extend my simulation.
 I entered:

 tpbconv  -s  npt-1.tpr-extend  100  -o npt-1-extend.tpr

 nohup mpirun -np 4 mdrun -s  npt-1-extend.tpr  -cpi  npt-1.cpt

 Ii run this command on a node with 4 cpu.
 the result was these files:
 confout.gro , state.cpt   ,md.log  , traj.trr  ,state_prev.cpt  ,ener.edr
 ,
 #confout.gro.1# ,#confout.gro.2# ,#confout.gro.3# ,# ener.edr.1#
 ,#ener.edr.2# ,#md.log.1 #,#traj.trr.1# ,#traj.trr.2# ,

 I extended 4 files on 4 distinct nodes!


  That's not the behaviour you were looking for. You've run the same .tpr
 four times, once on each CPU. This is because mdrun was not compiled with
 MPI. See the installation instructions.

  I think I explained bad.let me explain it more:
 Suppose I entered the above commands on just one node(with 4 cpu) for
 npt-1.tpr (just one time I entered these commands)


 You seem to have used mpirun to run four different mdrun processes, each
 using the same .tpr, one on each cpu. You should be trying to run one
 mdrun_mpi using that .tpr, but all four cpus working on the same run.

 Look at the top few lines of your .log. That will tell you how many nodes
 mdrun thought it was running on. I think you will see NNODES=1. If so,
 don't use this mdrun with mpirun.


  besides if you were right it would result the same outputs when I run it
 on different nodes with the same commands,please see below!


 Not strictly true. See
 http://www.gromacs.org/Documentation/Terminology/Reproducibility




  it is excellent,because the number of outputs was different, for example
 one node produced 3 md.log and 4 confout.gro !

 The main question is:
 which one of the resulted outputs are the main result? on wich do  I must
 analyse?


  They should all be equivalent, but not necessarily binary identical.

 Actually I checked all of them,they are different,with different averages
 of quantities,
 and all of them show a final text that means the program finished
 succesfully!


 The averages being the same or different merely reflect whether your run
 was reproducible. Assuming there was no output files in your working
 directory to start with, you've run the same irreproducible run four times,
 because you're using a non-MPI mdrun.

 Mark

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[gmx-users] converging value

2011-04-10 Thread mohsen ramezanpour
Dear All

How can I determine the converged value of a simulation?
Because the pressure has big oscilations around it's converging value but it
is difficult to determine that value.

can everybody guide me?
Thanks in advance
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[gmx-users] Different g_sas values between AMBER, CHARMM and GROMOS ff for DPC

2011-04-10 Thread sa
Thank you David,

My micelle simulated with the GROMOS ff slightly differs (size and shape)
from the two others micelles, so i expected that the values total SAS value
slightly differ. In case of the headgroup, they are located in the micelle
interface region, so the SAS in case of the micelle simulated with GROMOS
should be not so different (36 % less) than the others micelles

You said that In order for g_sas to work with gromos force field one would
have to
increase the radius of the carbon atoms. For the 54 atoms the default
value will be used. How to do that ? and for all the carbon atoms
(including the headgroup carbon atoms).

Thank you

SA


 On 2011-04-09 19.06, sa wrote:
  Dear All,
 
  I have simulated three DPC micelles with the same size (54 lipids) with
  different force fields (CHARMM, AMBER et GROMOS53A6) and computed the
  average accessible surface areas for each lipids with g_sas (gmx4.5.3) I
  obtain the three average values for total DPC, the headgroup
  (phosphocholine) and the alkyl tail.
 
 Total (A2)Head  Tail
 
  GROMOS53A6158.4 ± 4.8 54.8 ± 3.4 103.2 ± 3.8
  AMBER  248.2 ± 8.7 76.2 ± 5.1 172.5 ± 5.2
  CHARMM   242.7 ± 7.7 70.4 ± 4.1  172.4 ± 4.8
 
  As you can see the ASA values are close between the micelles simulated
  with the CHARMM and AMBER ff, but larger than the values obtained from
  the micelle simulated with GROMOS ff especially for the headgroup. I am
  aware that  CHARMM and AMBER are explicits ff whereas GROMOS is an
  united ff  It is the reason I obtain a smaller values for GROMOS
  compared to two others ones ?
 
 
  Does g_sas tool take into account this. I have also noted when I use
  g_sas i obtain the following message
 
  WARNING: masses and atomic (Van der Waals) radii will be determined
based on residue and atom names. These numbers can deviate
from the correct mass and radius of the atom type.
 
  WARNING: could not find a Van der Waals radius for 54 atoms
 
  It is important ?

 Given your observations above, don't you think it might be?
 In order for g_sas to work with gromos force field one would have to
 increase the radius of the carbon atoms. For the 54 atoms the default
 value will be used.
 
  Thank you in advance for your advices.
 
  SA
 


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Re: [gmx-users] Different g_sas values between AMBER, CHARMM and GROMOS ff for DPC

2011-04-10 Thread David van der Spoel

On 2011-04-10 11.11, sa wrote:

Thank you David,

My micelle simulated with the GROMOS ff slightly differs (size and
shape) from the two others micelles, so i expected that the values total
SAS value slightly differ. In case of the headgroup, they are located in
the micelle interface region, so the SAS in case of the micelle
simulated with GROMOS should be not so different (36 % less) than the
others micelles

You said that In order for g_sas to work with gromos force field one
would have to
increase the radius of the carbon atoms. For the 54 atoms the default
value will be used. How to do that ? and for all the carbon atoms
(including the headgroup carbon atoms).

edit vdwradii.dat.
Then be careful to use an atom name that is specific for the FF such 
that your Amber and Charmm runs keep the correct value.


Thank you

SA


On 2011-04-09 19.06, sa wrote:
  Dear All,
 
  I have simulated three DPC micelles with the same size (54
lipids) with
  different force fields (CHARMM, AMBER et GROMOS53A6) and computed the
  average accessible surface areas for each lipids with g_sas
(gmx4.5.3) I
  obtain the three average values for total DPC, the headgroup
  (phosphocholine) and the alkyl tail.
 
 Total (A2)Head  Tail
 
  GROMOS53A6158.4 ± 4.8 54.8 ± 3.4 103.2 ± 3.8
  AMBER  248.2 ± 8.7 76.2 ± 5.1 172.5 ± 5.2
  CHARMM   242.7 ± 7.7 70.4 ± 4.1  172.4 ± 4.8
 
  As you can see the ASA values are close between the micelles
simulated
  with the CHARMM and AMBER ff, but larger than the values obtained
from
  the micelle simulated with GROMOS ff especially for the
headgroup. I am
  aware that  CHARMM and AMBER are explicits ff whereas GROMOS is an
  united ff  It is the reason I obtain a smaller values for GROMOS
  compared to two others ones ?
 
 
  Does g_sas tool take into account this. I have also noted when I use
  g_sas i obtain the following message
 
  WARNING: masses and atomic (Van der Waals) radii will be determined
based on residue and atom names. These numbers can deviate
from the correct mass and radius of the atom type.
 
  WARNING: could not find a Van der Waals radius for 54 atoms
 
  It is important ?

Given your observations above, don't you think it might be?
In order for g_sas to work with gromos force field one would have to
increase the radius of the carbon atoms. For the 54 atoms the default
value will be used.
 
  Thank you in advance for your advices.
 
  SA
 


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Re: [gmx-users] NPT.mdp parameters NOTE

2011-04-10 Thread Peter C. Lai
He told me you can use up to 0.5 in an off-list email and in fact, does so
in the KALP-15 in DPPC example...

On 2011-04-10 02:54:15AM -0500, mohsen ramezanpour wrote:
 Dear Dr.Justin
 
 As you have noticed in your tutorials,It is better to use Nose-Hoover for 
 tempreture in the NPT.mdp file.
 You have used tau-t = 0.1 in most of your md.mdp files for generating npt 
 ensemble.
 
 When I use a npt file with these settings,there is a Note as following:
 sorry,i can't remember the exact messge but :it says it is better to use a 
 tau_t   20 times of another quantity,
 in my work the quantity=0.01
 
 When I made tau_t=0.2 there was not any Note!
 
 Can I ignore this Note?Is it safe continuing with the same tau_t=0.1 as you 
 used?
 

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Re: [gmx-users] converging value

2011-04-10 Thread Mark Abraham

On 10/04/2011 6:48 PM, mohsen ramezanpour wrote:

Dear All

How can I determine the converged value of a simulation?
Because the pressure has big oscilations around it's converging value 
but it is difficult to determine that value.


Longer simulations on bigger systems.

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Re: [gmx-users] Dangling bond error for dna

2011-04-10 Thread Justin A. Lemkul



majid hasan wrote:
Sorry, the pdb file is bigger than 50k so it won't attach, so its pasted 
below. Output of pdb2gmx is attached.




You have numerous problems with this .pdb file:

1. All residues are listed as being the 3' end form.  Your chain should start 
with a 5' end, include the middle residues, and end with a 3' form.


2. 5' ends do not have phosphate on them, per force field convention.

3. You have various incorrect atoms, and some incorrect atom names.

Please refer to the dna.rtp file for your chosen force field to understand its 
expectations.  Then you will need to manually fix your .pdb file by renaming, 
replacing, or removing whatever is in conflict.


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[gmx-users] probelm of using amber force field

2011-04-10 Thread fancy2012
Dear GMX users,
 
I have a question about running MD simulation using amber force field. It is 
easy to prepare the top and gro files of protein with amber force field, but 
how should I prepare the itp and gro files of small molecules  with GAFF force 
field? I know the program ANTECHAMBER and tleap can generate the some 
molecule's topology and coordinate. Could someone give me some hints? Thanks 
very much in advance!
 
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Re: [gmx-users] probelm of using amber force field

2011-04-10 Thread Justin A. Lemkul



fancy2012 wrote:

Dear GMX users,
 
I have a question about running MD simulation using amber force 
field. It is easy to prepare the top and gro files of protein with amber 
force field, but how should I prepare the itp and gro files of small 
molecules  with GAFF force field? I know the program ANTECHAMBER and 
tleap can generate the some molecule's topology and coordinate. Could 
someone give me some hints? Thanks very much in advance!


http://code.google.com/p/acpype/ is one common approach.

-Justin

 
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_Best wishes,_

_Qinghua Liao_

_Ph.D student of Tianjin University, China_



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Re: [gmx-users] converging value

2011-04-10 Thread mohsen ramezanpour
Dear Dr.Mark

thank you for your attention
How long is enough?
for example I have run 200 ps for making npt(p=1 bar) for my system (300
nm^3)
But the pressure is oscilating so much,and I can't be sure if it has
converged or not!
of course its average is approximately 5 bar (at the end of log file)

Do you have any idea?
I know it is not any problem if a quantity is oscilating around it's
converged value.

thanks in advance for your reply

On Sun, Apr 10, 2011 at 3:09 PM, Mark Abraham mark.abra...@anu.edu.auwrote:

 On 10/04/2011 6:48 PM, mohsen ramezanpour wrote:

 Dear All

 How can I determine the converged value of a simulation?
 Because the pressure has big oscilations around it's converging value but
 it is difficult to determine that value.


 Longer simulations on bigger systems.

 Mark
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Re: [gmx-users] converging value

2011-04-10 Thread Mark Abraham

On 10/04/2011 9:41 PM, mohsen ramezanpour wrote:

Dear Dr.Mark

thank you for your attention
How long is enough?


For example, when the size of error estimate reported by g_energy is 
smaller than the quantity you are trying to observe. That might take 
many nanoseconds in the case of observables based on fluctuations of 
atomic positions. There've been lots of mailing list threads on this topic.


Mark

for example I have run 200 ps for making npt(p=1 bar) for my system 
(300 nm^3)
But the pressure is oscilating so much,and I can't be sure if it has 
converged or not!

of course its average is approximately 5 bar (at the end of log file)

Do you have any idea?
I know it is not any problem if a quantity is oscilating around it's 
converged value.


thanks in advance for your reply

On Sun, Apr 10, 2011 at 3:09 PM, Mark Abraham mark.abra...@anu.edu.au 
mailto:mark.abra...@anu.edu.au wrote:


On 10/04/2011 6:48 PM, mohsen ramezanpour wrote:

Dear All

How can I determine the converged value of a simulation?
Because the pressure has big oscilations around it's
converging value but it is difficult to determine that value.


Longer simulations on bigger systems.

Mark
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Re: [gmx-users] Error while performing a REMD simulation

2011-04-10 Thread massimo sandal
2011/4/10 Mark Abraham mark.abra...@anu.edu.au:
 On 10/04/2011 11:44 AM, Justin A. Lemkul wrote:

 Maybe this is unrelated to the underlying problem, but hopefully it helps
 in the long run.  Nothing worse than a reviewer saying, Nice project, but
 100% of the data are junk.

 Bad idea, and 100% of the data are junk ? :-)

Well, in this case you're not going to be scooped -while in the first
case you have wasted your time AND someone else will redo your project
(correctly) while you wait for your paper review to come back.

m.
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Re: [gmx-users] Error while performing a REMD simulation

2011-04-10 Thread massimo sandal
2011/4/10 Mark Abraham mark.abra...@anu.edu.au:
 On 10/04/2011 10:58 AM, devicerandom wrote:

 A polite request for correct behaviour is suitable. Use of ALL CAPS is also
 a breach of netiquette. :-)

Ouch. I just wanted to convey strength, it's not like I WROTE ALL THE
MAIL IN ALL CAPS :-)
However, will remember it next time.

thanks,
m.
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[gmx-users] converging value

2011-04-10 Thread chris . neale
You need to look at the dependence of the statistical value (in this  
case the average pressure) with (a) increasing equilibration time that  
you discard prior to collecting pressure data, and (b) increasing  
production simulation time that you include in your average.


Create the first plot, and discard any data in the early part of the  
simulation for which there appears to be a drift (the discarded data  
will not be used in the second plot). Then create the second plot,  
where you should see large oscillations about an average value and  
these oscillations should get smaller as the simulation time is  
increased. You can gauge the remaining error by block averaging or  
(much better) comparing with another simulation that you ran. There  
are also other statistical methods available, but I prefer the  
simplicity of these.


If your question is simply that you did these things but the  
oscillations remain large and you want to know how to get a more  
precise value, then the answer is simply to simulate longer.


Chris.

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Dear All

How can I determine the converged value of a simulation?
Because the pressure has big oscilations around it's converging value but it
is difficult to determine that value.

can everybody guide me?
Thanks in advance
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2011-04-10 Thread fancy2012




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From: fancy2012 fancy2...@yeah.net
Subject: [gmx-users] probelm of using amber force field
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Dear GMX users,
 
I have a question about running MD simulation using amber force field. It is 
easy to prepare the top and gro files of protein with amber force field, but 
how should I prepare the itp and gro files of small molecules  with GAFF force 
field? I know the program ANTECHAMBER and tleap can generate the some 
molecule's topology and coordinate. Could someone give me some hints? Thanks 
very much in advance!
 
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fancy2012 wrote:
 Dear GMX users,
  
 I have a question about running MD simulation using amber force 
 field. It is easy to prepare the top and gro files of protein with amber 
 force field, but how should I prepare the itp and gro files of small 
 molecules  with GAFF force field? I know the program ANTECHAMBER and 
 tleap can generate the some molecule's topology and coordinate. Could 
 someone give me some hints? Thanks very much in advance!

http://code.google.com/p/acpype/ is one common approach.

-Justin

  
 --
 
 _Best wishes,_
 
 _Qinghua Liao_
 
 _Ph.D student of Tianjin University, China_
 

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Date: Sun, 10 Apr 2011 16:11:28 +0430
From: mohsen ramezanpour ramezanpour.moh...@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [gmx-users] converging value
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Dear Dr.Mark

thank you for your attention
How long is enough?
for example I have run 200 ps for making npt(p=1 bar) for my system (300
nm^3)
But the pressure is oscilating so much,and I can't be sure if it has
converged or not!
of course its average is approximately 5 bar (at the end of log file)

Do you have any idea?
I know it is not any problem if a quantity is oscilating around it's
converged value.

thanks in advance for your reply

On Sun, Apr 10, 2011 at 3:09 PM, Mark Abraham mark.abra...@anu.edu.auwrote:

 On 10/04/2011 6:48 PM, mohsen ramezanpour wrote:

 Dear All

 How can I determine the converged value of a simulation?
 Because the pressure has big oscilations around it's converging value but
 it is difficult to determine that value.


 Longer simulations on bigger systems.

 Mark
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From: Mark Abraham mark.abra...@anu.edu.au
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On 10/04/2011 9:41 PM, mohsen ramezanpour wrote:
 Dear Dr.Mark

 thank you for your attention
 How long is enough?

For example, when the size of error estimate reported by g_energy is 
smaller than the quantity you are trying to observe. That might take 
many nanoseconds in the case of observables based on fluctuations of 
atomic positions. There've been lots of mailing list threads on this topic.

Mark

 for example I have run 200 ps for making npt(p=1 bar) for my system 
 (300 nm^3)
 But the pressure is oscilating so much,and I can't be sure if it has 
 converged or not!
 of course its average is approximately 5 bar (at the end of log file)

 Do you have any idea?
 I know it is not any problem if a quantity

Re: [gmx-users] Dangling bond error for dna

2011-04-10 Thread majid hasan
Okay, thank you. I'll try to fix it.

Majid




From: Justin A. Lemkul jalem...@vt.edu
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Sent: Sun, April 10, 2011 4:17:59 AM
Subject: Re: [gmx-users] Dangling bond error for dna



majid hasan wrote:
 Sorry, the pdb file is bigger than 50k so it won't attach, so its pasted 
 below. 
Output of pdb2gmx is attached.
 

You have numerous problems with this .pdb file:

1. All residues are listed as being the 3' end form.  Your chain should start 
with a 5' end, include the middle residues, and end with a 3' form.

2. 5' ends do not have phosphate on them, per force field convention.

3. You have various incorrect atoms, and some incorrect atom names.

Please refer to the dna.rtp file for your chosen force field to understand its 
expectations.  Then you will need to manually fix your .pdb file by renaming, 
replacing, or removing whatever is in conflict.

-Justin

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[gmx-users] Different g_sas values between AMBER, CHARMM and GROMOS ff for DPC

2011-04-10 Thread sa
Thank you David

A bientôt

SA


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 Date: Sun, 10 Apr 2011 11:17:15 +0200
 From: David van der Spoel sp...@xray.bmc.uu.se
 Subject: Re: [gmx-users] Different g_sas values between AMBER,  CHARMM
and GROMOS ff for DPC
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 On 2011-04-10 11.11, sa wrote:
  Thank you David,
 
  My micelle simulated with the GROMOS ff slightly differs (size and
  shape) from the two others micelles, so i expected that the values total
  SAS value slightly differ. In case of the headgroup, they are located in
  the micelle interface region, so the SAS in case of the micelle
  simulated with GROMOS should be not so different (36 % less) than the
  others micelles
 
  You said that In order for g_sas to work with gromos force field one
  would have to
  increase the radius of the carbon atoms. For the 54 atoms the default
  value will be used. How to do that ? and for all the carbon atoms
  (including the headgroup carbon atoms).
 edit vdwradii.dat.
 Then be careful to use an atom name that is specific for the FF such
 that your Amber and Charmm runs keep the correct value.
 
  Thank you
 
  SA
 
 
  On 2011-04-09 19.06, sa wrote:
Dear All,
   
I have simulated three DPC micelles with the same size (54
  lipids) with
different force fields (CHARMM, AMBER et GROMOS53A6) and computed
 the
average accessible surface areas for each lipids with g_sas
  (gmx4.5.3) I
obtain the three average values for total DPC, the headgroup
(phosphocholine) and the alkyl tail.
   
   Total (A2)Head  Tail
   
GROMOS53A6158.4 ± 4.8 54.8 ± 3.4 103.2 ± 3.8
AMBER  248.2 ± 8.7 76.2 ± 5.1 172.5 ± 5.2
CHARMM   242.7 ± 7.7 70.4 ± 4.1  172.4 ± 4.8
   
As you can see the ASA values are close between the micelles
  simulated
with the CHARMM and AMBER ff, but larger than the values obtained
  from
the micelle simulated with GROMOS ff especially for the
  headgroup. I am
aware that  CHARMM and AMBER are explicits ff whereas GROMOS is an
united ff  It is the reason I obtain a smaller values for GROMOS
compared to two others ones ?
   
   
Does g_sas tool take into account this. I have also noted when I
 use
g_sas i obtain the following message
   
WARNING: masses and atomic (Van der Waals) radii will be
 determined
  based on residue and atom names. These numbers can
 deviate
  from the correct mass and radius of the atom type.
   
WARNING: could not find a Van der Waals radius for 54 atoms
   
It is important ?
 
  Given your observations above, don't you think it might be?
  In order for g_sas to work with gromos force field one would have to
  increase the radius of the carbon atoms. For the 54 atoms the default
  value will be used.
   
Thank you in advance for your advices.
   
SA
   
 
 
  --
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  Dept. of Cell  Molec. Biol., Uppsala University.
  Box 596, 75124 Uppsala, Sweden. Phone:  +46184714205.
  sp...@xray.bmc.uu.se mailto:sp...@xray.bmc.uu.se
  http://folding.bmc.uu.se
 
 


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Re: [gmx-users] Dangling bond error for dna

2011-04-10 Thread majid hasan
Is there any software that generates .pdb file consistent with amber forcefield 
requirements? I tried 3DNA, and GABEDIT, but 3DNA doesn't name residues in 
correct format i.e DX, and gabedit names every residue as DX3.

Thanks,
Majid




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majid hasan wrote:
 Sorry, the pdb file is bigger than 50k so it won't attach, so its pasted 
 below. 
Output of pdb2gmx is attached.
 

You have numerous problems with this .pdb file:

1. All residues are listed as being the 3' end form.  Your chain should start 
with a 5' end, include the middle residues, and end with a 3' form.

2. 5' ends do not have phosphate on them, per force field convention.

3. You have various incorrect atoms, and some incorrect atom names.

Please refer to the dna.rtp file for your chosen force field to understand its 
expectations.  Then you will need to manually fix your .pdb file by renaming, 
replacing, or removing whatever is in conflict.

-Justin

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Re: [gmx-users] Dangling bond error for dna

2011-04-10 Thread majid hasan
Okay, I am trying AmberTools as well. Thanks Justin!

Majid




From: Justin A. Lemkul jalem...@vt.edu
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Sent: Sun, April 10, 2011 10:16:57 AM
Subject: Re: [gmx-users] Dangling bond error for dna



majid hasan wrote:
 Is there any software that generates .pdb file consistent with amber 
 forcefield 
requirements? I tried 3DNA, and GABEDIT, but 3DNA doesn't name residues in 
correct format i.e DX, and gabedit names every residue as DX3.
 

Perhaps xleap (part of AmberTools), but if your input has a bunch of incorrect 
atoms, I don't know how well it deals with replacing them.  I seem to remember 
that it just writes new atoms and doesn't necessarily clean up the old ones, 
but 
my memory could be incorrect or the program may have been improved since last I 
tried it.

http://ambermd.org/#AmberTools

-Justin

 Thanks,
 Majid
 
 
 *From:* Justin A. Lemkul jalem...@vt.edu
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 *Sent:* Sun, April 10, 2011 4:17:59 AM
 *Subject:* Re: [gmx-users] Dangling bond error for dna
 
 
 
 majid hasan wrote:
   Sorry, the pdb file is bigger than 50k so it won't attach, so its pasted 
below. Output of pdb2gmx is attached.
  
 
 You have numerous problems with this .pdb file:
 
 1. All residues are listed as being the 3' end form.  Your chain should start 
with a 5' end, include the middle residues, and end with a 3' form.
 
 2. 5' ends do not have phosphate on them, per force field convention.
 
 3. You have various incorrect atoms, and some incorrect atom names.
 
 Please refer to the dna.rtp file for your chosen force field to understand 
 its 
expectations.  Then you will need to manually fix your .pdb file by renaming, 
replacing, or removing whatever is in conflict.
 
 -Justin
 
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[gmx-users] the gmx-4.5.4 can not be compiled but the gmx-4.5.3 can

2011-04-10 Thread 英雄不再寂寞
Dear gmxers,
   I have had tried to install gmx-4.5.4 by compiling the source code. The 
first step ./configure finished without any error, but the second step running 
make reported some errors as follows
  
 /usr/lib64/gcc/x86_64-suse-linux/4.4/../../../../x86_64-suse-linux/bin/ld: 
/usr/local/lib/libfftw3f.a(tensor.o): relocation R_X86_64_32 against `a local 
symbol' can not be used when making a shared object; recompile with -fPIC
/usr/local/lib/libfftw3f.a: could not read symbols: Bad value
collect2: ld returned 1 exit status
make[3]: *** [libmd.la] Error 1
make[3]: Leaving directory `/root/Download/gromacs-4.5.4/src/mdlib'
make[2]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
make[2]: Leaving directory `/root/Download/gromacs-4.5.4/src'
make[1]: *** [all] Error 2
make[1]: Leaving directory `/root/Download/gromacs-4.5.4/src'
make: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
  
 Note that I can install successfully gmx-4.5.3 using the very same procedure. 
How to deal with this problem? Please give me some hints. Thanks a lot.
  
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Re: [gmx-users] the gmx-4.5.4 can not be compiled but the gmx-4.5.3 can

2011-04-10 Thread Mark Abraham

Dear gmxers,
  I have had tried to install gmx-4.5.4 by compiling the source code. 
The first step ./configure finished without any error, but the second 
step running make reported some errors as follows
/usr/lib64/gcc/x86_64-suse-linux/4.4/../../../../x86_64-suse-linux/bin/ld: 
/usr/local/lib/libfftw3f.a(tensor.o): relocation R_X86_64_32 against 
`a local symbol' can not be used when making a shared object; 
recompile with -fPIC

/usr/local/lib/libfftw3f.a: could not read symbols: Bad value
collect2: ld returned 1 exit status
make[3]: *** [libmd.la] Error 1
make[3]: Leaving directory `/root/Download/gromacs-4.5.4/src/mdlib'
make[2]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
make[2]: Leaving directory `/root/Download/gromacs-4.5.4/src'
make[1]: *** [all] Error 2
make[1]: Leaving directory `/root/Download/gromacs-4.5.4/src'
make: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
Note that I can install successfully gmx-4.5.3 using the very same 
procedure. How to deal with this problem? Please give me some hints. 
Thanks a lot.


The list archive deal with this issue several times, as do the 
installation instructions on the web page.


Mark
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[gmx-users] mdrun segmentation fault

2011-04-10 Thread shivangi nangia
Hello gmx users,

My system for NVT equilbration runs into segmentation fault as soon as I try
to run it.
It does not give any warning or hint of what might be going wrong.
Since I am a new user I am having difficulty exploring the plausible
reasons.

System: Protein( polyhistidine), 20  2,5-dihydroxybenzoic acid anions, 1:1
water: methanol (~3000 molecules of each) in 8 nm cube


I had had EM of the system using steepest decent. Outcome:

Steepest Descents converged to machine precision in 15 steps, but did not
reach the requested Fmax  1000.
Potential Energy  =  1.5354981e+19
Maximum force =inf on atom 651
Norm of force =inf

*The minim.mdp *is:
; minim.mdp - used as input into grompp to generate em.tpr
; Parameters describing what to do, when to stop and what to save
integrator  = steep ; Algorithm (steep = steepest descent minimization)
emtol= 1000.0; Stop minimization when the maximum force  1000.0
kJ/mol/nm
emstep  = 0.02  ; Energy step size
nsteps  = 5 ; Maximum number of (minimization) steps to perform

; Parameters describing how to find the neighbors of each atom and how to
calculate the interactions
nstlist = 1  ; Frequency to update the neighbor list and long range
forces
ns_type = grid  ; Method to determine neighbor list (simple, grid)
rlist= 1.0; Cut-off for making neighbor list (short range forces)
coulombtype = PME; Treatment of long range electrostatic interactions
rcoulomb = 1.0; Short-range electrostatic cut-off
rvdw = 1.0; Short-range Van der Waals cut-off
pbc  = xyz   ; Periodic Boundary Conditions (yes/no)
constraints = none




*The nvt.mdp*:

title= hist NVT equilibration
define  = -DPOSRES  ; position restrain the protein
; Run parameters
integrator  = md ; leap-frog integrator
nsteps  = 5 ; 2 * 5 = 100 ps
dt= 0.002 ; 2 fs
; Output control
nstxout = 100; save coordinates every 0.2 ps
nstvout = 100; save velocities every 0.2 ps
nstenergy   = 100; save energies every 0.2 ps
nstlog  = 100; update log file every 0.2 ps
; Bond parameters
continuation   = no ; first dynamics run
constraint_algorithm = lincs  ; holonomic constraints
constraints = none ;
lincs_iter  = 1  ; accuracy of LINCS
lincs_order = 4  ; also related to accuracy
; Neighborsearching
ns_type = grid  ; search neighboring grid cells
nstlist = 5  ; 10 fs
rlist= 1.0; short-range neighborlist cutoff (in nm)
rcoulomb = 1.0; short-range electrostatic cutoff (in nm)
rvdw = 1.0; short-range van der Waals cutoff (in nm)
; Electrostatics
coulombtype = PME; Particle Mesh Ewald for long-range electrostatics
pme_order   = 4  ; cubic interpolation
fourierspacing = 0.16  ; grid spacing for FFT
; Temperature coupling is on
tcoupl  = V-rescale ; modified Berendsen thermostat
tc-grps = Protein Non-Protein   ; two coupling groups - more accurate
tau_t= 0.1 0.1   ; time constant, in ps
ref_t= 300300   ; reference temperature, one for each group, in K
; Pressure coupling is off
pcoupl  = no ; no pressure coupling in NVT
; Periodic boundary conditions
pbc  = xyz; 3-D PBC
; Dispersion correction
DispCorr = EnerPres  ; account for cut-off vdW scheme
; Velocity generation
gen_vel = yes; assign velocities from Maxwell distribution
gen_temp = 300; temperature for Maxwell distribution
gen_seed = -1 ; generate a random seed


I tried to decrease the step size, that also runs into seg fault error.


Kindly guide.

Thanks,
SN
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[gmx-users] comm-grps for a membrane-protein-ligand system

2011-04-10 Thread Peter C. Lai
Should I couple a ligand associated with a membrane protein to the same
COM group as the Protein_POPC group? It makes sense to me that would be the 
case since if we are investigating the interaction between protein+membrane 
and ligand we want to have the same COM correction vector applied to both 
relative to SOL_Ions but I just wanted to make sure...

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Re: [gmx-users] mdrun segmentation fault

2011-04-10 Thread Mark Abraham

Hello gmx users,

My system for NVT equilbration runs into segmentation fault as soon as 
I try to run it.

It does not give any warning or hint of what might be going wrong.
Since I am a new user I am having difficulty exploring the plausible 
reasons.


System: Protein( polyhistidine), 20  2,5-dihydroxybenzoic acid anions, 
1:1 water: methanol (~3000 molecules of each) in 8 nm cube



I had had EM of the system using steepest decent. Outcome:

Steepest Descents converged to machine precision in 15 steps, but did 
not reach the requested Fmax  1000.

Potential Energy  =  1.5354981e+19
Maximum force =inf on atom 651
Norm of force =inf


So that's broken already - you have enormous positive energy and 
infinite forces. Stop there and fix it. Either your starting 
configuration has severe atomic overlaps (go and visualize it with the 
periodic box), or some of your topology is broken (try a box of methanol 
on its own, try the protein in vacuum, try a single acid in vacuum)


Mark


*The minim.mdp *is:
; minim.mdp - used as input into grompp to generate em.tpr
; Parameters describing what to do, when to stop and what to save
integrator  = steep ; Algorithm (steep = steepest descent 
minimization)
emtol= 1000.0; Stop minimization when the maximum force  
1000.0 kJ/mol/nm

emstep  = 0.02  ; Energy step size
nsteps  = 5 ; Maximum number of (minimization) steps to 
perform


; Parameters describing how to find the neighbors of each atom and how 
to calculate the interactions
nstlist = 1  ; Frequency to update the neighbor list and long 
range forces

ns_type = grid  ; Method to determine neighbor list (simple, grid)
rlist= 1.0; Cut-off for making neighbor list (short range forces)
coulombtype = PME; Treatment of long range electrostatic interactions
rcoulomb = 1.0; Short-range electrostatic cut-off
rvdw = 1.0; Short-range Van der Waals cut-off
pbc  = xyz   ; Periodic Boundary Conditions (yes/no)
constraints = none




*The nvt.mdp*:

title= hist NVT equilibration
define  = -DPOSRES  ; position restrain the protein
; Run parameters
integrator  = md ; leap-frog integrator
nsteps  = 5 ; 2 * 5 = 100 ps
dt= 0.002 ; 2 fs
; Output control
nstxout = 100; save coordinates every 0.2 ps
nstvout = 100; save velocities every 0.2 ps
nstenergy   = 100; save energies every 0.2 ps
nstlog  = 100; update log file every 0.2 ps
; Bond parameters
continuation   = no ; first dynamics run
constraint_algorithm = lincs  ; holonomic constraints
constraints = none ;
lincs_iter  = 1  ; accuracy of LINCS
lincs_order = 4  ; also related to accuracy
; Neighborsearching
ns_type = grid  ; search neighboring grid cells
nstlist = 5  ; 10 fs
rlist= 1.0; short-range neighborlist cutoff (in nm)
rcoulomb = 1.0; short-range electrostatic cutoff (in nm)
rvdw = 1.0; short-range van der Waals cutoff (in nm)
; Electrostatics
coulombtype = PME; Particle Mesh Ewald for long-range electrostatics
pme_order   = 4  ; cubic interpolation
fourierspacing = 0.16  ; grid spacing for FFT
; Temperature coupling is on
tcoupl  = V-rescale ; modified Berendsen thermostat
tc-grps = Protein Non-Protein   ; two coupling groups - more accurate
tau_t= 0.1 0.1   ; time constant, in ps
ref_t= 300300   ; reference temperature, one for each group, in K
; Pressure coupling is off
pcoupl  = no ; no pressure coupling in NVT
; Periodic boundary conditions
pbc  = xyz; 3-D PBC
; Dispersion correction
DispCorr = EnerPres  ; account for cut-off vdW scheme
; Velocity generation
gen_vel = yes; assign velocities from Maxwell distribution
gen_temp = 300; temperature for Maxwell distribution
gen_seed = -1 ; generate a random seed


I tried to decrease the step size, that also runs into seg fault error.


Kindly guide.

Thanks,
SN




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Re: [gmx-users] 1,5 and 1,6 LJ interactions for OPLS AA SEI

2011-04-10 Thread Mark Abraham

Hi everyone!
The OPLS AA SEI for carbohydrates scales the 1,5 and 1,6 interaction 
by a certain factor. How do I go about introducing the scaling of 
these intearctions in the ff parameters? The CHARMM ff also has 
certain 1,4 parameters, I am not sure how we can go about placing 
these specific parameters in the ff.

Your help is greatly appreciated. Thanks.



See use of fudgeQQ and nrexcl in section 5.7.1, and discussion of pairs 
and exclusions in 5.3.4 and 5.4. Basically you will want to exclude 1,5 
and 1,6 interactions with nrexcl and generate pair parameters by some 
mechanism. Different scalings for 1,4 1,5 and 1,6 would be a pain.


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