Re: [gmx-users] topology file of ligand

2013-10-15 Thread Justin Lemkul



On 10/15/13 11:24 AM, sunyeping wrote:

Dear gromacs users,

I am study the tutorial for protein-ligand complex system (gromacs tutorial 5: 
T4 lysozyme in complex with JZ4). The tutorial use PRODRG to produce the 
topology file. The author state that he  immediately notice three things that 
are wrong with this topology, which include charge group, H atom charge, etc.
  And the author then reconstructed a topology file.  I don't understand 
how the charge group and charge of individual atom are correctly assigned. 
Could you explain it to me?



The Gromos96 parameter sets assign charges and charge groups based on chemical 
functional groups that are transferable between molecules.  Spotting 
inaccuracies and knowing how to fix them come with understanding how the force 
field was derived (read the primary literature and study existing molecules).


-Justin

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Re: [gmx-users] topology and coordinate file not matching after grompp

2013-07-31 Thread Justin Lemkul



On 7/31/13 6:04 AM, chinnu657 wrote:

Hello,

I have a problem and although I've read almost everything the internet could
offer on how differently people have approached this problem, mine hasn't
been solved yet.

Basically, I am trying to mix 2 different proteins in one box and after
doing my grompp to neutralise the system, I get the error number of
coordinates in coordinate file (solvated.gro, 85059) does not match topology
(topol.top, 85079).

This is how my topology file looks:
;GROMACS toplogy

;
;Include the force field
#include oplsaa.ff/forcefield.itp


; Include chain topologies
#include topol_1AKI.itp
#include topol_2CDS.itp

;Include water topology
#include spce.itp

;Include generic ion topology
#include ions.itp

[ system ]
Two proteins in water

[ molecules ]
Protein_1AKI1
Protein_2CDS1
SOL 27053

How can I deduce from this data that the number of coordinates in topol.top
is 85079. And what exactly should I do to reduce the number of molecules
here so that the 2 files have the same number of coordinates.



Number of atoms in Protein_1AKI [moleculetype] + number of atoms in Protein_2CDS 
[moleculetype] + (3*27053) is the number of atoms that the topology specifies. 
Cross-check that against the coordinate file.  This error always arises for the 
same reason - incorrect bookkeeping of some sort.  You haven't said how you 
built the system or what commands you gave, for instance, to genbox, so it's 
hard to be more specific.


-Justin

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Re: [gmx-users] Topology file-residue unknown

2013-04-06 Thread Mark Abraham
On Sat, Apr 6, 2013 at 5:56 AM, Juliette N. joojoojo...@gmail.com wrote:

 Thank you Justin. I have now the topology. I have a quick question
 regarding atom types. I used opls_143 and opls_144 for C and H of ethylene
 respec in rtp. However, in VMD I dont see double bonds C=C. I though maybe
 these are not the proper atomtypes for H2C=CH2.


http://www.gromacs.org/Downloads/Related_Software/Visualization_Software#Topology_bonds_vs_Rendered_bonds

Mark



 rtp entry:

 [ atoms ]
C1opls_143-0.1201
H11   opls_144 0.0601
H12   opls_144 0.0601
C2opls_143-0.1202
H21   opls_144 0.0602
H22   opls_144 0.0602

 From atomtypes.atp

 opls_141   12.01100  ; alkene C (R2-C=)
  opls_142   12.01100  ; alkene C (RH-C=)
 * opls_143   12.01100  ; alkene C (H2-C=)
  opls_1441.00800  ; alkene H (H-C=)*

 Did I select the correct atomtypes?
 Thanks many times!




 On 4 April 2013 18:23, Justin Lemkul jalem...@vt.edu wrote:

 
 
  On 4/4/13 6:17 PM, Juliette N. wrote:
 
  Hi Justin,
 
  Thanks a lot for your message. I am petrified why pdb2gmx is not
  recognizing the residue ETY. This the first residue added to
 ffoplsaa.rtp
  but as you may see below it is not read from rtp.
 
  I am sure this residue is added to ffoplsaa.rtp which is existing in the
  working directory:
 
  [ ETY ]
[ atoms ]
  C1opls_143-0.1201
  H11   opls_144 0.0601
  H12   opls_144 0.0601
  C2opls_143-0.1202
  H21   opls_144 0.0602
  H22   opls_144 0.0602
 
  [ bonds ]
  C1H11
  C1H12
  C1C2
  C2H21
  C2H22
 ;C2C1
 
  Then I issue:
 
  pdb2gmx -f Ethylene.gro -o GRO.gro -p Ethylene.top -ff oplsaa
:-)  G  R  O  M  A  C  S  (-:
 
 GROwing Monsters And Cloning Shrimps
 
   :-)  VERSION 4.5.4  (-:
 
  Using the Oplsaa force field in directory oplsaa.ff
 
  Opening force field file
  /usr/local/gromacs/share/**gromacs/top/oplsaa.ff/**watermodels.dat
 
  Select the Water Model:
1: TIP4P  TIP 4-point, recommended
2: TIP3P  TIP 3-point
3: TIP5P  TIP 5-point
4: SPCsimple point charge
5: SPC/E  extended simple point charge
6: None
  6
  Opening force field file
  /usr/local/gromacs/share/**gromacs/top/oplsaa.ff/**aminoacids.r2b
  Reading Ethylene.gro...
  Read 'Giant Rising Ordinary Mutants for A Clerical Setup', 6 atoms
  Analyzing pdb file
  Splitting PDB chains based on TER records or changing chain id.
  There are 1 chains and 0 blocks of water and 1 residues with 6 atoms
 
 chain  #res #atoms
 1 ' ' 1  6
 
  No occupancies in Ethylene.gro
  Opening force field file
  /usr/local/gromacs/share/**gromacs/top/oplsaa.ff/**atomtypes.atp
  Atomtype 1
  Reading residue database... (oplsaa)
  Opening force field file
  /usr/local/gromacs/share/**gromacs/top/oplsaa.ff/**aminoacids.rtp
  Residue 56
  Sorting it all out...
  Opening force field file
  /usr/local/gromacs/share/**gromacs/top/oplsaa.ff/**aminoacids.hdb
  Opening force field file
  /usr/local/gromacs/share/**gromacs/top/oplsaa.ff/**aminoacids.n.tdb
  Opening force field file
  /usr/local/gromacs/share/**gromacs/top/oplsaa.ff/**aminoacids.c.tdb
 
  Back Off! I just backed up Ethylene.top to ./#Ethylene.top.1#
  Processing chain 1 (6 atoms, 1 residues)
  There are 0 donors and 0 acceptors
  There are 0 hydrogen bonds
  Warning: Starting residue ETY1 in chain not identified as
 Protein/RNA/DNA.
  Problem with chain definition, or missing terminal residues.
  This chain does not appear to contain a recognized chain molecule.
  If this is incorrect, you can edit residuetypes.dat to modify the
  behavior.
  8 out of 8 lines of specbond.dat converted successfully
 
  --**-
  Program pdb2gmx, VERSION 4.5.4
  Source code file: resall.c, line: 581
 
  Fatal error:
  Residue 'ETY' not found in residue topology database
  For more information and tips for troubleshooting, please check the
  GROMACS
  website at http://www.gromacs.org/**Documentation/Errors
 http://www.gromacs.org/Documentation/Errors
 
 
  I am kind of baffled what could be wrong. I would really appreciate if
 you
  could comment on this. Is there a bug in pdb2gmx version 4.5.4 (which I
  doubt)?
  Do i have to edit esiduetypes.dat?
 
 
  You've added the .rtp entry incorrectly.  pdb2gmx in version 4.5 and
 above
  needs .rtp files to be organized in force field subdirectories (in your
  case oplsaa.ff).  It will not recognize a file called ffoplsaa.rtp,
 which
  is the pre-4.5 syntax for force field files.
 
 
  -Justin
 
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  Department of Biochemistry
  Virginia Tech
  Blacksburg, VA
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Re: [gmx-users] Topology file-residue unknown

2013-04-05 Thread Juliette N.
Thank you Justin. I have now the topology. I have a quick question
regarding atom types. I used opls_143 and opls_144 for C and H of ethylene
respec in rtp. However, in VMD I dont see double bonds C=C. I though maybe
these are not the proper atomtypes for H2C=CH2.

rtp entry:

[ atoms ]
   C1opls_143-0.1201
   H11   opls_144 0.0601
   H12   opls_144 0.0601
   C2opls_143-0.1202
   H21   opls_144 0.0602
   H22   opls_144 0.0602

From atomtypes.atp

opls_141   12.01100  ; alkene C (R2-C=)
 opls_142   12.01100  ; alkene C (RH-C=)
* opls_143   12.01100  ; alkene C (H2-C=)
 opls_1441.00800  ; alkene H (H-C=)*

Did I select the correct atomtypes?
Thanks many times!




On 4 April 2013 18:23, Justin Lemkul jalem...@vt.edu wrote:



 On 4/4/13 6:17 PM, Juliette N. wrote:

 Hi Justin,

 Thanks a lot for your message. I am petrified why pdb2gmx is not
 recognizing the residue ETY. This the first residue added to ffoplsaa.rtp
 but as you may see below it is not read from rtp.

 I am sure this residue is added to ffoplsaa.rtp which is existing in the
 working directory:

 [ ETY ]
   [ atoms ]
 C1opls_143-0.1201
 H11   opls_144 0.0601
 H12   opls_144 0.0601
 C2opls_143-0.1202
 H21   opls_144 0.0602
 H22   opls_144 0.0602

 [ bonds ]
 C1H11
 C1H12
 C1C2
 C2H21
 C2H22
;C2C1

 Then I issue:

 pdb2gmx -f Ethylene.gro -o GRO.gro -p Ethylene.top -ff oplsaa
   :-)  G  R  O  M  A  C  S  (-:

GROwing Monsters And Cloning Shrimps

  :-)  VERSION 4.5.4  (-:

 Using the Oplsaa force field in directory oplsaa.ff

 Opening force field file
 /usr/local/gromacs/share/**gromacs/top/oplsaa.ff/**watermodels.dat

 Select the Water Model:
   1: TIP4P  TIP 4-point, recommended
   2: TIP3P  TIP 3-point
   3: TIP5P  TIP 5-point
   4: SPCsimple point charge
   5: SPC/E  extended simple point charge
   6: None
 6
 Opening force field file
 /usr/local/gromacs/share/**gromacs/top/oplsaa.ff/**aminoacids.r2b
 Reading Ethylene.gro...
 Read 'Giant Rising Ordinary Mutants for A Clerical Setup', 6 atoms
 Analyzing pdb file
 Splitting PDB chains based on TER records or changing chain id.
 There are 1 chains and 0 blocks of water and 1 residues with 6 atoms

chain  #res #atoms
1 ' ' 1  6

 No occupancies in Ethylene.gro
 Opening force field file
 /usr/local/gromacs/share/**gromacs/top/oplsaa.ff/**atomtypes.atp
 Atomtype 1
 Reading residue database... (oplsaa)
 Opening force field file
 /usr/local/gromacs/share/**gromacs/top/oplsaa.ff/**aminoacids.rtp
 Residue 56
 Sorting it all out...
 Opening force field file
 /usr/local/gromacs/share/**gromacs/top/oplsaa.ff/**aminoacids.hdb
 Opening force field file
 /usr/local/gromacs/share/**gromacs/top/oplsaa.ff/**aminoacids.n.tdb
 Opening force field file
 /usr/local/gromacs/share/**gromacs/top/oplsaa.ff/**aminoacids.c.tdb

 Back Off! I just backed up Ethylene.top to ./#Ethylene.top.1#
 Processing chain 1 (6 atoms, 1 residues)
 There are 0 donors and 0 acceptors
 There are 0 hydrogen bonds
 Warning: Starting residue ETY1 in chain not identified as Protein/RNA/DNA.
 Problem with chain definition, or missing terminal residues.
 This chain does not appear to contain a recognized chain molecule.
 If this is incorrect, you can edit residuetypes.dat to modify the
 behavior.
 8 out of 8 lines of specbond.dat converted successfully

 --**-
 Program pdb2gmx, VERSION 4.5.4
 Source code file: resall.c, line: 581

 Fatal error:
 Residue 'ETY' not found in residue topology database
 For more information and tips for troubleshooting, please check the
 GROMACS
 website at 
 http://www.gromacs.org/**Documentation/Errorshttp://www.gromacs.org/Documentation/Errors


 I am kind of baffled what could be wrong. I would really appreciate if you
 could comment on this. Is there a bug in pdb2gmx version 4.5.4 (which I
 doubt)?
 Do i have to edit esiduetypes.dat?


 You've added the .rtp entry incorrectly.  pdb2gmx in version 4.5 and above
 needs .rtp files to be organized in force field subdirectories (in your
 case oplsaa.ff).  It will not recognize a file called ffoplsaa.rtp, which
 is the pre-4.5 syntax for force field files.


 -Justin

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Re: [gmx-users] Topology file-residue unknown

2013-04-04 Thread Justin Lemkul



On 4/4/13 11:38 AM, Juliette N. wrote:

Dear all,

I am having trouble creating topology file for simple molecule ethylene.
Here is the steps. Below is the pdb file:

Ethylene.pdb:


ATOM  1  C1  ETY 1  0.672  -0.000   0.000  1.00  0.00
C
ATOM  2  C2  ETY 1 -0.672  -0.000   0.000  1.00  0.00
C
ATOM  3  H11 ETY 1  1.238  -0.928   0.000  1.00  0.00
H
ATOM  4  H12 ETY 1  1.238   0.928   0.000  1.00  0.00
H
ATOM  5  H21 ETY 1 -1.238  -0.928   0.000  1.00  0.00
H
ATOM  6  H22 ETY 1 -1.238   0.928   0.000  1.00  0.00
H
END

Then:
editconf -f Ethylene.pdb -o Ethylene.gro

Ethylene.gro:

 6
 1ETY C11   0.067  -0.000   0.000
 1ETY C22  -0.067  -0.000   0.000
 1ETYH113   0.124  -0.093   0.000
 1ETYH124   0.124   0.093   0.000
 1ETYH215  -0.124  -0.093   0.000
 1ETYH226  -0.124   0.093   0.000
0.0   0.0   0.0


Then I add the following residue for ethylene to the rtp file
ffoplsaa.rtp:

[ ETY ]
  [ atoms ]
C1opls_143-0.1201
H11   opls_144 0.0601
H12   opls_144 0.0601
C2opls_143-0.1202
H21   opls_144 0.0602
H22   opls_144 0.0602

[ bonds ]
C1H11
C1H12
C1C2
C2H21
C2H22
C2C1



C1 C2 and C2 C1 are redundant.  You don't need both.


and then

; pdb2gmx -f Ethylene.pdb -o GRO.gro -p Ethylene.top -ff oplsaa

Q1_ i dont realize what is the difference between the already created
Ethylene.gro and the one in the pdb2gmx(GRO.gro). I am not getting the
latter and was wondering what would be the diffrence?



pdb2gmx produces an output coordinate file as a byproduct of its massively 
complicated fix-build-process procedure.


If you're not getting the output file(s), then pdb2gmx is failing and should 
produce obvious error messages.



Q2) Below is the  top file which is not generated. Once I Issue pdb2gmx, I
enter 6 because pdb2gmx output says:

Opening force field file
/usr/local/gromacs/share/gromacs/top/oplsaa.ff/watermo$
  1: TIP4P  TIP 4-point, recommended
  2: TIP3P  TIP 3-point
  3: TIP5P  TIP 5-point
  4: SPCsimple point charge
  5: SPC/E  extended simple point charge
  6: None
Opening force field file
/usr/local/gromacs/share/gromacs/top/oplsaa.ff/aminoac$
No occupancies in Ethylene.gro
Opening force field file
/usr/local/gromacs/share/gromacs/top/oplsaa.ff/atomtyp$

And finally I get a blank top file::

;File 'Ethylene.top' was generated
;By user: onbekend (0)
;On host: onbekend
;At date:
;
;This is a standalone topology file
;
;It was generated using program:
;pdb2gmx - VERSION 4.5.4
;
;Command line was:
;pdb2gmx -f Ethylene.pdb -o GRO.gro -p Ethylene.top -ff oplsaa
;
;Force field was read from the standard Gromacs share directory.
;

; Include forcefield parameters
#include oplsaa.ff/forcefield.itp


-
output says:

Select the Water Model:
Reading Ethylene.gro...
Read 'GROningen Mixture of Alchemy and Childrens' Stories', 6 atoms
Analyzing pdb file
Splitting PDB chains based on TER records or changing chain id.
There are 1 chains and 0 blocks of water and 1 residues with 6 atoms

   chain  #res #atoms
   1 ' ' 1  6

Reading residue database... (oplsaa)
Processing chain 1 (6 atoms, 1 residues)
Warning: Starting residue ETY1 in chain not identified as Protein/RNA/DNA.
Problem with chain definition, or missing terminal residues.
This chain does not appear to contain a recognized chain molecule.
If this is incorrect, you can edit residuetypes.dat to modify the behavior.



There should be more output after this line.  Any reason for pdb2gmx to fail 
would be printed here.





Is there something wrong with my rtp? Could I trouble you to let me know
what wrong is?



I can see nothing wrong.  I was able to produce a sensible topology using all of 
your input files.


-Justin

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Re: [gmx-users] Topology file-residue unknown

2013-04-04 Thread Juliette N.
Hi Justin,

Thanks a lot for your message. I am petrified why pdb2gmx is not
recognizing the residue ETY. This the first residue added to ffoplsaa.rtp
but as you may see below it is not read from rtp.

I am sure this residue is added to ffoplsaa.rtp which is existing in the
working directory:

[ ETY ]
 [ atoms ]
   C1opls_143-0.1201
   H11   opls_144 0.0601
   H12   opls_144 0.0601
   C2opls_143-0.1202
   H21   opls_144 0.0602
   H22   opls_144 0.0602

[ bonds ]
   C1H11
   C1H12
   C1C2
   C2H21
   C2H22
  ;C2C1

Then I issue:

pdb2gmx -f Ethylene.gro -o GRO.gro -p Ethylene.top -ff oplsaa
 :-)  G  R  O  M  A  C  S  (-:

  GROwing Monsters And Cloning Shrimps

:-)  VERSION 4.5.4  (-:

Using the Oplsaa force field in directory oplsaa.ff

Opening force field file
/usr/local/gromacs/share/gromacs/top/oplsaa.ff/watermodels.dat

Select the Water Model:
 1: TIP4P  TIP 4-point, recommended
 2: TIP3P  TIP 3-point
 3: TIP5P  TIP 5-point
 4: SPCsimple point charge
 5: SPC/E  extended simple point charge
 6: None
6
Opening force field file
/usr/local/gromacs/share/gromacs/top/oplsaa.ff/aminoacids.r2b
Reading Ethylene.gro...
Read 'Giant Rising Ordinary Mutants for A Clerical Setup', 6 atoms
Analyzing pdb file
Splitting PDB chains based on TER records or changing chain id.
There are 1 chains and 0 blocks of water and 1 residues with 6 atoms

  chain  #res #atoms
  1 ' ' 1  6

No occupancies in Ethylene.gro
Opening force field file
/usr/local/gromacs/share/gromacs/top/oplsaa.ff/atomtypes.atp
Atomtype 1
Reading residue database... (oplsaa)
Opening force field file
/usr/local/gromacs/share/gromacs/top/oplsaa.ff/aminoacids.rtp
Residue 56
Sorting it all out...
Opening force field file
/usr/local/gromacs/share/gromacs/top/oplsaa.ff/aminoacids.hdb
Opening force field file
/usr/local/gromacs/share/gromacs/top/oplsaa.ff/aminoacids.n.tdb
Opening force field file
/usr/local/gromacs/share/gromacs/top/oplsaa.ff/aminoacids.c.tdb

Back Off! I just backed up Ethylene.top to ./#Ethylene.top.1#
Processing chain 1 (6 atoms, 1 residues)
There are 0 donors and 0 acceptors
There are 0 hydrogen bonds
Warning: Starting residue ETY1 in chain not identified as Protein/RNA/DNA.
Problem with chain definition, or missing terminal residues.
This chain does not appear to contain a recognized chain molecule.
If this is incorrect, you can edit residuetypes.dat to modify the behavior.
8 out of 8 lines of specbond.dat converted successfully

---
Program pdb2gmx, VERSION 4.5.4
Source code file: resall.c, line: 581

Fatal error:
Residue 'ETY' not found in residue topology database
For more information and tips for troubleshooting, please check the GROMACS
website at http://www.gromacs.org/Documentation/Errors


I am kind of baffled what could be wrong. I would really appreciate if you
could comment on this. Is there a bug in pdb2gmx version 4.5.4 (which I
doubt)?
Do i have to edit esiduetypes.dat?

Thank you many times for your precious time,




On 4 April 2013 17:21, Justin Lemkul jalem...@vt.edu wrote:



 On 4/4/13 11:38 AM, Juliette N. wrote:

 Dear all,

 I am having trouble creating topology file for simple molecule ethylene.
 Here is the steps. Below is the pdb file:

 Ethylene.pdb:


 ATOM  1  C1  ETY 1  0.672  -0.000   0.000  1.00  0.00
 C
 ATOM  2  C2  ETY 1 -0.672  -0.000   0.000  1.00  0.00
 C
 ATOM  3  H11 ETY 1  1.238  -0.928   0.000  1.00  0.00
 H
 ATOM  4  H12 ETY 1  1.238   0.928   0.000  1.00  0.00
 H
 ATOM  5  H21 ETY 1 -1.238  -0.928   0.000  1.00  0.00
 H
 ATOM  6  H22 ETY 1 -1.238   0.928   0.000  1.00  0.00
 H
 END

 Then:
 editconf -f Ethylene.pdb -o Ethylene.gro

 Ethylene.gro:

  6
  1ETY C11   0.067  -0.000   0.000
  1ETY C22  -0.067  -0.000   0.000
  1ETYH113   0.124  -0.093   0.000
  1ETYH124   0.124   0.093   0.000
  1ETYH215  -0.124  -0.093   0.000
  1ETYH226  -0.124   0.093   0.000
 0.0   0.0   0.0


 Then I add the following residue for ethylene to the rtp file
 ffoplsaa.rtp:

 [ ETY ]
   [ atoms ]
 C1opls_143-0.1201
 H11   opls_144 0.0601
 H12   opls_144 0.0601
 C2opls_143-0.1202
 H21   opls_144 0.0602
 H22   opls_144 0.0602

 [ bonds ]
 C1H11
 C1H12
 C1C2
 C2H21
 C2H22
 C2C1


 C1 C2 and C2 C1 are redundant.  You don't need both.


  and then

 ; pdb2gmx -f Ethylene.pdb -o GRO.gro -p Ethylene.top -ff oplsaa

 Q1_ i dont realize what is the difference between the already created
 Ethylene.gro and the one in the pdb2gmx(GRO.gro). I am not getting the
 latter and was wondering what would be the diffrence?


 pdb2gmx 

Re: [gmx-users] Topology file-residue unknown

2013-04-04 Thread Justin Lemkul



On 4/4/13 6:17 PM, Juliette N. wrote:

Hi Justin,

Thanks a lot for your message. I am petrified why pdb2gmx is not
recognizing the residue ETY. This the first residue added to ffoplsaa.rtp
but as you may see below it is not read from rtp.

I am sure this residue is added to ffoplsaa.rtp which is existing in the
working directory:

[ ETY ]
  [ atoms ]
C1opls_143-0.1201
H11   opls_144 0.0601
H12   opls_144 0.0601
C2opls_143-0.1202
H21   opls_144 0.0602
H22   opls_144 0.0602

[ bonds ]
C1H11
C1H12
C1C2
C2H21
C2H22
   ;C2C1

Then I issue:

pdb2gmx -f Ethylene.gro -o GRO.gro -p Ethylene.top -ff oplsaa
  :-)  G  R  O  M  A  C  S  (-:

   GROwing Monsters And Cloning Shrimps

 :-)  VERSION 4.5.4  (-:

Using the Oplsaa force field in directory oplsaa.ff

Opening force field file
/usr/local/gromacs/share/gromacs/top/oplsaa.ff/watermodels.dat

Select the Water Model:
  1: TIP4P  TIP 4-point, recommended
  2: TIP3P  TIP 3-point
  3: TIP5P  TIP 5-point
  4: SPCsimple point charge
  5: SPC/E  extended simple point charge
  6: None
6
Opening force field file
/usr/local/gromacs/share/gromacs/top/oplsaa.ff/aminoacids.r2b
Reading Ethylene.gro...
Read 'Giant Rising Ordinary Mutants for A Clerical Setup', 6 atoms
Analyzing pdb file
Splitting PDB chains based on TER records or changing chain id.
There are 1 chains and 0 blocks of water and 1 residues with 6 atoms

   chain  #res #atoms
   1 ' ' 1  6

No occupancies in Ethylene.gro
Opening force field file
/usr/local/gromacs/share/gromacs/top/oplsaa.ff/atomtypes.atp
Atomtype 1
Reading residue database... (oplsaa)
Opening force field file
/usr/local/gromacs/share/gromacs/top/oplsaa.ff/aminoacids.rtp
Residue 56
Sorting it all out...
Opening force field file
/usr/local/gromacs/share/gromacs/top/oplsaa.ff/aminoacids.hdb
Opening force field file
/usr/local/gromacs/share/gromacs/top/oplsaa.ff/aminoacids.n.tdb
Opening force field file
/usr/local/gromacs/share/gromacs/top/oplsaa.ff/aminoacids.c.tdb

Back Off! I just backed up Ethylene.top to ./#Ethylene.top.1#
Processing chain 1 (6 atoms, 1 residues)
There are 0 donors and 0 acceptors
There are 0 hydrogen bonds
Warning: Starting residue ETY1 in chain not identified as Protein/RNA/DNA.
Problem with chain definition, or missing terminal residues.
This chain does not appear to contain a recognized chain molecule.
If this is incorrect, you can edit residuetypes.dat to modify the behavior.
8 out of 8 lines of specbond.dat converted successfully

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Program pdb2gmx, VERSION 4.5.4
Source code file: resall.c, line: 581

Fatal error:
Residue 'ETY' not found in residue topology database
For more information and tips for troubleshooting, please check the GROMACS
website at http://www.gromacs.org/Documentation/Errors


I am kind of baffled what could be wrong. I would really appreciate if you
could comment on this. Is there a bug in pdb2gmx version 4.5.4 (which I
doubt)?
Do i have to edit esiduetypes.dat?



You've added the .rtp entry incorrectly.  pdb2gmx in version 4.5 and above needs 
.rtp files to be organized in force field subdirectories (in your case 
oplsaa.ff).  It will not recognize a file called ffoplsaa.rtp, which is the 
pre-4.5 syntax for force field files.


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Re: [gmx-users] topology

2013-03-18 Thread Justin Lemkul



On 3/18/13 10:39 AM, shahid nayeem wrote:

Hi All
  How can I get a topology file using pdb2gmx from a single chain
polypeptide with one of the CYS, SH in the form of SG as if it is
involved in disulfide linkage, while the other chain with which I
expect it to form disulfide link is not in the input pdb file. or can
I use pdb2gmx command and get the separate .top and .gro file for each
chain using index file.



You may be able to use the -cys option to fool pdb2gmx, but I don't know if that 
will cause problems.  Having half a disulfide present is odd, though some force 
fields support thiolate or neutral (i.e. radical) forms of cysteine.  You'll 
have to look into the force field files to see what's available.


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Re: [gmx-users] topology

2013-03-18 Thread shahid nayeem
I am using Gromacs-4.5.4 and this does not have -cys option in pdb2gmx.
shahid

On Tue, Mar 19, 2013 at 2:06 AM, Justin Lemkul jalem...@vt.edu wrote:


 On 3/18/13 10:39 AM, shahid nayeem wrote:

 Hi All
   How can I get a topology file using pdb2gmx from a single chain
 polypeptide with one of the CYS, SH in the form of SG as if it is
 involved in disulfide linkage, while the other chain with which I
 expect it to form disulfide link is not in the input pdb file. or can
 I use pdb2gmx command and get the separate .top and .gro file for each
 chain using index file.


 You may be able to use the -cys option to fool pdb2gmx, but I don't know if
 that will cause problems.  Having half a disulfide present is odd, though
 some force fields support thiolate or neutral (i.e. radical) forms of
 cysteine.  You'll have to look into the force field files to see what's
 available.

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Re: [gmx-users] topology

2013-03-18 Thread Justin Lemkul



On 3/18/13 10:49 PM, shahid nayeem wrote:

I am using Gromacs-4.5.4 and this does not have -cys option in pdb2gmx.
shahid



My apologies.  For some reason I always think there is a -cys option, when in 
fact it is -ss.  In any case, if you're trying to treat some strange form of 
cysteine, some force fields have special names for different forms (CYM for 
thiolate, etc) so naming and proper force field choice may be the only viable 
mechanism here.


-Justin


On Tue, Mar 19, 2013 at 2:06 AM, Justin Lemkul jalem...@vt.edu wrote:



On 3/18/13 10:39 AM, shahid nayeem wrote:


Hi All
   How can I get a topology file using pdb2gmx from a single chain
polypeptide with one of the CYS, SH in the form of SG as if it is
involved in disulfide linkage, while the other chain with which I
expect it to form disulfide link is not in the input pdb file. or can
I use pdb2gmx command and get the separate .top and .gro file for each
chain using index file.



You may be able to use the -cys option to fool pdb2gmx, but I don't know if
that will cause problems.  Having half a disulfide present is odd, though
some force fields support thiolate or neutral (i.e. radical) forms of
cysteine.  You'll have to look into the force field files to see what's
available.

-Justin

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Re: [gmx-users] Topology of Graphite Oxide

2013-03-07 Thread Justin Lemkul



On 3/7/13 3:36 AM, zhhxu wrote:

Hi  users:

I want to run a simulation of adsorption of protein on graphite oxide(GO) which 
is oxidized at random and
is near 80% coverage by hydroxyl and epoxyl group.
My first question is how to generate a topology filefor GO. Previous to search 
solution to this problem in
this forum, I had tried to make a topology for GO use g_x2top with command:
g_x2top -f input.pdb -nopbc -r outputname -o outputname.
But g_x2top did not work fine(fine for prestine graphite) and gave error messages like 
Can not find forcefield for atom .. 



The .n2t files provided with the (few) force fields in Gromacs are rather 
inflexible, so you will probably need to modify them to suit your needs.



My second also is about definition of improper dihedral in opls-aa. Whether it 
is validate to assign a improper
dihedral for a central sp2 carbon atom with three other bonded atoms no matter 
of what is type of  other
three atom?  I have gotten (mentioned above) a topology file of pristine 
graphite for opls-aa with
  g_x2top(the command is similar to above),  but the topology file did not 
include any improper dihedral.



g_x2top doesn't write impropers, so you have to manually add them if needed. 
Assignment of proper parameters should be done based on analogous functional 
groups present in the force field or by a suitable derivation protocol.


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Re: [gmx-users] Topology and mdp file for coupling vdw and coulombic interactions for running FE calculations using BAR

2012-09-17 Thread Justin Lemkul



On 9/16/12 10:45 PM, Sonia Milena Aguilera Segura wrote:

Hi,

I'm preparing my mdp and topology files for running free energy calculations 
using BAR method. I´m using Justin Lemkul's tutorial as a reference (You can 
find it here 
http://www.bevanlab.biochem.vt.edu/Pages/Personal/justin/gmx-tutorials/free_energy/08_advanced.html).
 According to this tutorial, the simultaneous coupling of both Coulombic and 
van der Waals terms leads to instability. So, it is usefull to prepare the mdp 
files as follows (off course including all other parameters):


van der Waals coupling:

  sc-alpha  = 0.5 ; use soft-core for LJ (de)coupling
  sc-sigma  = 0.3
  sc-power  = 1
  couple-moltype= LIG
  couple-intramol   = no
  couple-lambda0= none; non-interacting dummy in state A
  couple-lambda1= vdw ; only vdW terms on in state B


Coulombic coupling:

  sc-alpha  = 0   ; soft-core during (dis)charging can be 
unstable!
  sc-sigma  = 0
  couple-moltype= LIG
  couple-intramol   = no
  couple-lambda0= vdw ; only vdW terms in state A (the previous 
state B is now A)
  couple-lambda1= vdw-q   ; all nonbonded interactions are on in state B

However, I don't understand how can this leads to a fully interacting molecule 
if all the charges in the topology file have been set to zero. Does it mean 
that for the second calculation (coulombic coupling) I have to use the original 
topology file with all charges? Or, should I use the same topology with zero 
charges?



You do not need to make any changes to the topology.  The couple-lambda* 
settings dictate which parameters are involved in the calculations.  In the 
second examples, in the lambda=0 state, only van der Waals interactions are 
calculated, but when lambda=1, both van der Waals and Coulombic interactions 
(vdw-q) are calculated.


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Re: [gmx-users] Topology generated of a dimer protein

2012-09-09 Thread Justin Lemkul



On 9/9/12 8:42 AM, Shima Arasteh wrote:

Hi all,

I am simulating a system of protein and water. My protein is composed of 2 
monomers, each monomer has its own C- and N-terminus, so there are 2 
N-terminals and 2 C-terminals.
I have a pdb of two monomers as dimer.pdb.

I tried to generate topology of dimer.pdb. But 2 monomers are identified as one 
fragment which has one -N-terminus and one C-terminus! So the generated 
topology file and the total charge would be incorrect.
How can I solve it? Any suggestions please?



The chains need to be either separated by a TER entry or have different chain 
identifiers.  pdb2gmx uses the -chainsep option to control the criteria for a 
new chain, and by default it uses either of these.


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Re: [gmx-users] Topology- make bonds with certain cut-off distance

2012-08-25 Thread Erik Marklund
Hi,

In case you want the bonds to be dynamic I think the only way is to use 
tabulated interactions. A bit tedious to set up, but doable. Note that this 
will NOT emulate angles or dihedrals, just the stretching term. I can't 
understand why you would want bonds between all atoms within a certain 
distance, however, and I hope you know what you're doing.

Erik
 
25 aug 2012 kl. 06.54 skrev mohan maruthi sena:

 Hi all,
   I want build a toplogy for a protein , for which , each and
 every atom  has to  make bonds with other atoms with in certain
 specified cut-off distance. How can i do this ?
 
 Please suggest me a way,
 
 
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Re: [gmx-users] Topology- make bonds with certain cut-off distance

2012-08-25 Thread mohan maruthi sena
Hi ,
 Thanks for your reply.  I actually want to build an elastic
network model (ENM) for Protein containing 372 residues. According to
literature, ENM model only considers C-alpha atoms of protein and
discards rest of the atoms.The potential only considers bonded term
only. It does not
contain angle,dihedral or non-bonded term.  To build an ENM model the
specified atom makes bond with all other atoms with certain cutoff
distance. I consider the distance between two c-alpha atoms is 0.38nm
and force constant of 69.1 kj/(nm)2.I have written a code which gives
the number of  atoms around a particular atom with in certain cut-off
distance, With this i will know what are the atoms that are needed to
connect a particular atom.I have generated .gro and .top files using
pdb2gmx command .  After generating topology file , I replace bonds
section with the  connectivity information i get from code. The next
steps are equilibration and production. I am not sure whether it takes
connectivity information from topology or not. If it is not then how
can i mention it forms bonds with in certain distance . Finally , if i
run the simulation with all the above mentioned steps  and load the
trajectory in vmd , the protien gets contracted after first step.

Thanks,
Mohan

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 Hi,

 In case you want the bonds to be dynamic I think the only way is to use 
 tabulated interactions. A bit tedious to set up, but doable. Note that this 
 will NOT emulate angles or dihedrals, just the stretching term. I can't 
 understand why you would want bonds between all atoms within a certain 
 distance, however, and I hope you know what you're doing.

 Erik

 25 aug 2012 kl. 06.54 skrev mohan maruthi sena:

 Hi all,
   I want build a toplogy for a protein , for which , each and
 every atom  has to  make bonds with other atoms with in certain
 specified cut-off distance. How can i do this ?

 Please suggest me a way,


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Re: [gmx-users] Topology file for simulation of inorganic compounds

2012-08-13 Thread Justin Lemkul



On 8/13/12 1:49 PM, Deepak Ojha wrote:

Dear All

I want to do simulation of some ions like azide ion,thiocynate ion and
other inorganic compounds in liquid water.
I am not sure how to generate topology file for the same.How can I go
about doing the same.



Likely you will have to do it manually, which means you will have to understand 
Chapter 5 of the manual and the proper parameterization protocol for your 
molecules under the chosen force field.


Some web servers exist for such purposes, depending on the force field you want 
to use.  Otherwise consult the following page and be prepared for a significant 
time investment:


http://www.gromacs.org/Documentation/How-tos/Parameterization

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Re: [gmx-users] Topology file for simulation of inorganic compounds

2012-08-13 Thread David van der Spoel

On 2012-08-13 21:39, Justin Lemkul wrote:



On 8/13/12 1:49 PM, Deepak Ojha wrote:

Dear All

I want to do simulation of some ions like azide ion,thiocynate ion and
other inorganic compounds in liquid water.
I am not sure how to generate topology file for the same.How can I go
about doing the same.



Likely you will have to do it manually, which means you will have to
understand Chapter 5 of the manual and the proper parameterization
protocol for your molecules under the chosen force field.

Some web servers exist for such purposes, depending on the force field
you want to use.  Otherwise consult the following page and be prepared
for a significant time investment:

http://www.gromacs.org/Documentation/How-tos/Parameterization

-Justin


Hm, that page is slightly outdated. You want to google for
antechamber / gaff /amber
respectively
charmm / cgenff

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Re: [gmx-users] Topology file

2012-07-26 Thread David van der Spoel

On 2012-07-26 22:09, Shima Arasteh wrote:

Hi all,

To check a topology, is it correct to compare topologies generated by 2 
different  force fields? For example with gmx and charmm36. I know the topology 
generated by gmx is correct, however the parameters might be different.

You can not compare directly in this way, since different force field 
may have different number of e.g. dihedral terms.  Never use the gmx 
force field by the way.



Thanks in advance .


Sincerely,
Shima




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Re: [gmx-users] topology file in DPPC

2012-05-15 Thread Justin A. Lemkul



On 5/15/12 10:47 AM, scapr...@uniroma3.it wrote:

Dear all,
I'm meticulously following the tutorial KALP-15 in DPPC in order to carry
on the simulation of a protein of mine in a extended patch of DPPC. I have
already modified the ffnonbonded.itp and ffbonded.itp. At this point I'm
reading that I should change my topology file but I'm not able to find
within my topology file (obtained by using pdb2gmx on my protein)
#includegromos53a6.ff/forcefield.itpstatement so as to replace this line
with #include gromos53a6_lipid.ff/forcefield.itp, as reported in the
tutorial.
Indeed, at the top of my topology file I have got;

; Include forcefield parameters
#include ffG53a6.itp

and, after the list of all atoms,  at the bottom of the file;

; Include Position restraint file
#ifdef POSRES
#include posre.itp
#endif

; Include water topology
#include spc.itp

#ifdef POSRES_WATER
; Position restraint for each water oxygen
[ position_restraints ]
;  i funct   fcxfcyfcz
11   1000   1000   1000
#endif

; Include generic topology for ions
#include ions.itp

[ system ]
; Name
PHOSPHOLIPASE A2, AMMODYTOXIN A

[ molecules ]
; Compound#mols
Protein_A   1

I'm wondering if it may depend on the fact I have got the version
gromacs-4.0.7 and not the version 4.5.3 or newer or if I have to change
some options when I launch the command pdb2gmx in order to build my
topology file. I used the following command:

pdb2gmx -f 3G8G.pdb -o 3G8G_membr.gro  -p 3G8G_membr.top  -i
3G8G_membr.itp -ignh -water spc

and I chose GROMOS96 53A6

Please, let me know.



The problem is you're using an old version.  The tutorial states that you are 
expected to be using a version in the 4.5.x series.  If you don't, then the 
procedure will be somewhat different.


-Justin

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Re: [gmx-users] topology file in DPPC

2012-05-15 Thread scaprari
Do you know where  I should look to find the solution to my problem?

Silvia




 On 5/15/12 10:47 AM, scapr...@uniroma3.it wrote:
 Dear all,
 I'm meticulously following the tutorial KALP-15 in DPPC in order to
 carry
 on the simulation of a protein of mine in a extended patch of DPPC. I
 have
 already modified the ffnonbonded.itp and ffbonded.itp. At this point I'm
 reading that I should change my topology file but I'm not able to find
 within my topology file (obtained by using pdb2gmx on my protein)
 #includegromos53a6.ff/forcefield.itpstatement so as to replace this
 line
 with #include gromos53a6_lipid.ff/forcefield.itp, as reported in the
 tutorial.
 Indeed, at the top of my topology file I have got;

 ; Include forcefield parameters
 #include ffG53a6.itp

 and, after the list of all atoms,  at the bottom of the file;

 ; Include Position restraint file
 #ifdef POSRES
 #include posre.itp
 #endif

 ; Include water topology
 #include spc.itp

 #ifdef POSRES_WATER
 ; Position restraint for each water oxygen
 [ position_restraints ]
 ;  i funct   fcxfcyfcz
 11   1000   1000   1000
 #endif

 ; Include generic topology for ions
 #include ions.itp

 [ system ]
 ; Name
 PHOSPHOLIPASE A2, AMMODYTOXIN A

 [ molecules ]
 ; Compound#mols
 Protein_A   1

 I'm wondering if it may depend on the fact I have got the version
 gromacs-4.0.7 and not the version 4.5.3 or newer or if I have to change
 some options when I launch the command pdb2gmx in order to build my
 topology file. I used the following command:

 pdb2gmx -f 3G8G.pdb -o 3G8G_membr.gro  -p 3G8G_membr.top  -i
 3G8G_membr.itp -ignh -water spc

 and I chose GROMOS96 53A6

 Please, let me know.


 The problem is you're using an old version.  The tutorial states that you
 are
 expected to be using a version in the 4.5.x series.  If you don't, then
 the
 procedure will be somewhat different.

 -Justin

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Re: [gmx-users] topology file in DPPC

2012-05-15 Thread Justin A. Lemkul



On 5/15/12 11:11 AM, scapr...@uniroma3.it wrote:

Do you know where  I should look to find the solution to my problem?



The entire procedure for modifying the force field is different, as the 
directory structure and file names are very different.  The best solution is to 
upgrade your Gromacs version and follow the tutorial directly.


-Justin

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Re: [gmx-users] Topology parameters

2012-05-06 Thread Shima Arasteh
IS the parameters for a residue in CHARMM36 and CHARMM27 the same?

Thanks in advance,

Shima




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Sent: Saturday, May 5, 2012 9:16 PM
Subject: Re: [gmx-users] Topology parameters
 


On 5/5/12 11:39 AM, Shima Arasteh wrote:
 Can I use CHARMM-GUI to get the formyl parameters for CHARMM36 and CHARMM27?
 

Maybe, try it and see.  Swiss-Param might also be an option.

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Re: [gmx-users] Topology parameters

2012-05-06 Thread Justin A. Lemkul



On 5/6/12 2:36 PM, Shima Arasteh wrote:

IS the parameters for a residue in CHARMM36 and CHARMM27 the same?



I would suggest you do a bit of reading about the CHARMM force field hierarchy 
and why they are named as they are.  If you're parameterizing a new residue you 
can do it for either, or both, depending on the parameter set.  In your case, 
I'd suspect your formyl parameters are going to be universal between CHARMM27 
and CHARMM36, but don't let my suggestion be your justification.  If a reviewer 
asks, some guy on the Internet said it is not sufficient justification ;)


-Justin


Thanks in advance,
Shima


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On 5/5/12 11:39 AM, Shima Arasteh wrote:
  Can I use CHARMM-GUI to get the formyl parameters for CHARMM36 and CHARMM27?
 

Maybe, try it and see. Swiss-Param might also be an option.

-Justin

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Re: [gmx-users] Topology parameters

2012-05-06 Thread Shima Arasteh
All right. 

Thank you so much.
Shima




 From: Justin A. Lemkul jalem...@vt.edu
To: Discussion list for GROMACS users gmx-users@gromacs.org 
Sent: Sunday, May 6, 2012 11:32 PM
Subject: Re: [gmx-users] Topology parameters
 


On 5/6/12 2:36 PM, Shima Arasteh wrote:
 IS the parameters for a residue in CHARMM36 and CHARMM27 the same?


I would suggest you do a bit of reading about the CHARMM force field hierarchy 
and why they are named as they are.  If you're parameterizing a new residue you 
can do it for either, or both, depending on the parameter set.  In your case, 
I'd suspect your formyl parameters are going to be universal between CHARMM27 
and CHARMM36, but don't let my suggestion be your justification.  If a reviewer 
asks, some guy on the Internet said it is not sufficient justification ;)

-Justin

 Thanks in advance,
 Shima

 
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 *Subject:* Re: [gmx-users] Topology parameters



 On 5/5/12 11:39 AM, Shima Arasteh wrote:
   Can I use CHARMM-GUI to get the formyl parameters for CHARMM36 and 
CHARMM27?
  

 Maybe, try it and see. Swiss-Param might also be an option.

 -Justin

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Re: [gmx-users] Topology parameters

2012-05-05 Thread Justin A. Lemkul



On 5/5/12 9:21 AM, Shima Arasteh wrote:

Dear gmx users,

I need to define a new residue topology ( Formyl ) in CHARMM27 force field. I
have the formyl parameters for GROMOS. I'd like to know if the residue
parameters are the same in different force fields?



Almost certainly not.  Each force field has different parameterization 
procedures and makes use of different atom types.  A new force field requires a 
new topology.


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Re: [gmx-users] Topology parameters

2012-05-05 Thread Shima Arasteh
Can I use CHARMM-GUI  to get the formyl parameters for CHARMM36 and CHARMM27?

Cheers,
Shima




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users gmx-users@gromacs.org 
Sent: Saturday, May 5, 2012 5:58 PM
Subject: Re: [gmx-users] Topology parameters
 


On 5/5/12 9:21 AM, Shima Arasteh wrote:
 Dear gmx users,
 
 I need to define a new residue topology ( Formyl ) in CHARMM27 force field. I
 have the formyl parameters for GROMOS. I'd like to know if the residue
 parameters are the same in different force fields?
 

Almost certainly not.  Each force field has different parameterization 
procedures and makes use of different atom types.  A new force field requires a 
new topology.

-Justin

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Re: [gmx-users] Topology parameters

2012-05-05 Thread Justin A. Lemkul



On 5/5/12 11:39 AM, Shima Arasteh wrote:

Can I use CHARMM-GUI to get the formyl parameters for CHARMM36 and CHARMM27?



Maybe, try it and see.  Swiss-Param might also be an option.

-Justin

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Re: [gmx-users] Topology files

2012-02-28 Thread Justin A. Lemkul



kirtana S wrote:

Dear Users,

In the gromacs manual on means to convert the pdb file to gromacs 
topology file I need to use pdb2gmx. 
Here I have to specify the force field .How to work with organic 
residues which do not exists . 
Since I had used general amber force field, and could not find this in 
the /share/top/ directory . 
Do I need to manually construct the .itp file for each residues. What 
will be the easiest way to construct

a solvated box with user defined residues in gromacs.



If the residue of interest will be a component of a polymeric molecule like a 
protein, refer to 
http://www.gromacs.org/Documentation/How-tos/Adding_a_Residue_to_a_Force_Field. 
 If the molecule is a standalone species like a ligand, solvent, etc then all 
you have to do is #include an .itp file in the system topology.


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Re: [gmx-users] Topology files

2012-02-28 Thread kirtana S
For example if I have a polystyrene polymer chains and monomers of user
defined solvent . I need to construct the .itp file by hand .

Thanks for the reply
Kirtana

On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 5:31 PM, Justin A. Lemkul jalem...@vt.edu wrote:



 kirtana S wrote:

 Dear Users,

 In the gromacs manual on means to convert the pdb file to gromacs
 topology file I need to use pdb2gmx. Here I have to specify the force field
 .How to work with organic residues which do not exists . Since I had used
 general amber force field, and could not find this in the /share/top/
 directory . Do I need to manually construct the .itp file for each
 residues. What will be the easiest way to construct
 a solvated box with user defined residues in gromacs.


 If the residue of interest will be a component of a polymeric molecule
 like a protein, refer to http://www.gromacs.org/**
 Documentation/How-tos/Adding_**a_Residue_to_a_Force_Fieldhttp://www.gromacs.org/Documentation/How-tos/Adding_a_Residue_to_a_Force_Field.
  If the molecule is a standalone species like a ligand, solvent, etc then
 all you have to do is #include an .itp file in the system topology.

 -Justin

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Re: [gmx-users] Topology files

2012-02-28 Thread Justin A. Lemkul



kirtana S wrote:
For example if I have a polystyrene polymer chains and monomers of user 
defined solvent . I need to construct the .itp file by hand . 



Polystyrene is most easily generated using .rtp entries in pdb2gmx.  The solvent 
can be described by manually created .itp files.


http://www.gromacs.org/Documentation/How-tos/Polymers

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Re: [gmx-users] Topology files

2012-02-28 Thread Justin A. Lemkul



kirtana S wrote:
Thanks for the documentation. Again I have a  ligand terminated silica 
nanoparticle ,what can be the easiest way to approach  the topology file 
for this.





I don't know what the structure is, but I'll assume the .rtp route is probably 
easier than writing a (presumably) repetitive topology for a relatively large 
particle.  You may or may not need to invoke specbond.dat for cross-links, as 
pdb2gmx can deal only with linear species via .rtp entries; other bonds are 
introduced with specbond.dat.


-Justin



On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 5:46 PM, Justin A. Lemkul jalem...@vt.edu 
mailto:jalem...@vt.edu wrote:




kirtana S wrote:

For example if I have a polystyrene polymer chains and monomers
of user defined solvent . I need to construct the .itp file by
hand .


Polystyrene is most easily generated using .rtp entries in pdb2gmx.
 The solvent can be described by manually created .itp files.

http://www.gromacs.org/__Documentation/How-tos/Polymers
http://www.gromacs.org/Documentation/How-tos/Polymers


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Re: [gmx-users] Topology files

2012-02-28 Thread kirtana S
Thanks for the reply. As I am new to GROMACS I am not able to understand. I
will go through the manual and  will get back if I have further questions.


On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 6:00 PM, Justin A. Lemkul jalem...@vt.edu wrote:



 kirtana S wrote:

 Thanks for the documentation. Again I have a  ligand terminated silica
 nanoparticle ,what can be the easiest way to approach  the topology file
 for this.



 I don't know what the structure is, but I'll assume the .rtp route is
 probably easier than writing a (presumably) repetitive topology for a
 relatively large particle.  You may or may not need to invoke specbond.dat
 for cross-links, as pdb2gmx can deal only with linear species via .rtp
 entries; other bonds are introduced with specbond.dat.

 -Justin


 On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 5:46 PM, Justin A. Lemkul jalem...@vt.edumailto:
 jalem...@vt.edu wrote:



kirtana S wrote:

For example if I have a polystyrene polymer chains and monomers
of user defined solvent . I need to construct the .itp file by
hand .


Polystyrene is most easily generated using .rtp entries in pdb2gmx.
 The solvent can be described by manually created .itp files.


 http://www.gromacs.org/__**Documentation/How-tos/Polymershttp://www.gromacs.org/__Documentation/How-tos/Polymers

 http://www.gromacs.org/**Documentation/How-tos/Polymershttp://www.gromacs.org/Documentation/How-tos/Polymers
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Re: [gmx-users] topology missing

2012-01-25 Thread Mark Abraham

On 25/01/2012 9:39 PM, Anik Sen wrote:

Hi,
   I am using GROMACS 4.5.5. I made the pdb file of DNA and 
changed its residue files according to the given dna.rtp.
But still am getting an error 'OH' residue topology file missing where 
as the 'OH' is present in the atomtype as well as the residue topology 
file.


Whats the reason?


Copy and paste the actual error message, along with your command line, 
and any of the other output that you think might be relevant. It's a 
waste of time to give help based on information filtered through 
someone's head, because you don't know when their error might have 
occurred (if any!).


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Re: [gmx-users] topology and parameter for cobalt metal

2011-12-14 Thread Justin A. Lemkul



shahid nayeem wrote:

Dear all
I am interested in simulating a model protein with cobalt forming 
coordinate bond with His. I coud'nt find entry for cobalt in any 
forcefield .rtp file. I am using Gromacs 4.5.4 . If any one can help me 
in getting forcefield parameters for charmm27/ OPLSaa/Amber99 in gromacs 
format please respond. Please suggest where else I should search for these.


Standard, non-polarizable MM force fields are not particularly well-suited for 
dealing with transition metals.  Fixed point charges on such species, especially 
those coordinated to amino acids, are generally very incorrect, not to mention 
geometric coordination parameters that are not built-in.


http://www.gromacs.org/Documentation/How-tos/Parameterization#Exotic_Species

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Re: [gmx-users] Topology error

2011-11-21 Thread Mark Abraham

On 21/11/2011 9:18 PM, archana sonawani wrote:

Dear Sir/Madam,

For orienting the protein and membrane, I have used the .mdp and 
following topology file:

;
;   File 'topol_popc.top' was generated
;   By user: jalemkul (502)
;   On host:bevany.biochem.vt.edu  http://bevany.biochem.vt.edu
;   At date: Fri Oct 20 13:26:53 2006
;
;   This is your topology file
;
; Include chain topologies
#include gromos53a6_lipid.ff/forcefield.itp
#include popc.itp

; Include water topology
#include gromos53a6_lipid.ff/spc.itp

; Include ion topologies
#include gromos53a6_lipid.ff/ions.itp

; System specifications
[ system ]
60-Lipid POPC Bilayer

[ molecules ]
; molecule name nr.
POPC 60
SOL 1536
After running grompp to generate .tpr file I get following error:

Program grompp, VERSION 4.5.4

Source code file: gmxcpp.c, line: 248

Fatal error:

Topology include file gromos53a6_lipid.ff/forcefield.itp not found


But in the above topology file, if I change the

#include gromos53a6_lipid.ff/forcefield.itp line to *;*include 
gromos53a6_lipid.ff/forcefield.itp




This file is not optional, so failing to include anything makes further 
problems. You need such a file. You are doing something non-standard, so 
your burden of following directions, and/or understanding how the 
include file and force field mechanism works is a bit higher than normal :-)


Mark



I get following error:


Program grompp, VERSION 4.5.4

Source code file: topio.c, line: 653

Fatal error:

Syntax error - File popc.itp, line 1

Last line read:

'[ moleculetype ]'

Invalid order for directive moleculetype


Can anyone help me out...Thanks in adv




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Re: [gmx-users] Topology dihedral or improper dihedral

2011-11-13 Thread lina
On Sun, Nov 13, 2011 at 10:26 AM, XUEMING TANG yujan2...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi there

 I am trying to build up a topology file for a tetra nitrogen molecule using
 Gromos UA and OPLS UA force field. Following are the molecules.

 1. for     C
   |
  A.  C-C-C-C-C-C-C-N-C  and
   |
  C

   C
        |
  B.   C-C-C-C-C-C-C-N-C-C-C-C-COOH
    |
   C

 I have several questions:

 For A, the first molecule, should I use improper dihedral for the N-(CH3)3
 or proper dihedral for C-C-N-C with multi 3 for the head group? Is there any
 differences when using different force field (GROMOS and OPLS-UA)?
 For B, the second molecule, should I use improper dihedral for the N-(CH3)3
 or proer dihedral for C-C-N-C with multi 2? Is there any differences when
 using different force field (GROMOS UA and OPLS UA)?

 The first expression about improper didedral is a planer restriction. When
 read the manual it also refers to the tetrahedral structure like this tetra
 nitrogen functional group. My question is when it has
 really long hydrocarbon tail, I guess it will be hard to flip over to
 the mirror images. Or it is not true in the simulation?

You may take one built by other server, such as
http://davapc1.bioch.dundee.ac.uk/prodrg/

as reference, and built yourself if necessary.

 Thank you very much!!!

 Best!
 Xueming





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Re: [gmx-users] Topology dihedral or improper dihedral

2011-11-13 Thread XUEMING TANG
Thank you for your reply, Lina. I did try the prodrg server before. For A
molecule, there is no improper dihedral. A just has one dihedral for the
head group. For B molecule, it gives improper dihedral of the tetra
nitrogen. I am wondering what is the criteria or at least a guidance of
what could be the best choice for the topology file. Or any choices could
be right and I have to try which one provide consistent results with
experiment by trial?

Best!
Xueming

On Sun, Nov 13, 2011 at 9:57 AM, lina lina.lastn...@gmail.com wrote:

 On Sun, Nov 13, 2011 at 10:26 AM, XUEMING TANG yujan2...@gmail.com
 wrote:
  Hi there
 
  I am trying to build up a topology file for a tetra nitrogen
 molecule using
  Gromos UA and OPLS UA force field. Following are the molecules.
 
  1. for  C
|
   A.  C-C-C-C-C-C-C-N-C and
|
   C
 
C
 |
   B.   C-C-C-C-C-C-C-N-C-C-C-C-COOH
 |
C
 
  I have several questions:
 
  For A, the first molecule, should I use improper dihedral for the
 N-(CH3)3
  or proper dihedral for C-C-N-C with multi 3 for the head group? Is there
 any
  differences when using different force field (GROMOS and OPLS-UA)?
  For B, the second molecule, should I use improper dihedral for the
 N-(CH3)3
  or proer dihedral for C-C-N-C with multi 2? Is there any differences when
  using different force field (GROMOS UA and OPLS UA)?
 
  The first expression about improper didedral is a planer restriction.
 When
  read the manual it also refers to the tetrahedral structure like this
 tetra
  nitrogen functional group. My question is when it has
  really long hydrocarbon tail, I guess it will be hard to flip over to
  the mirror images. Or it is not true in the simulation?

 You may take one built by other server, such as
 http://davapc1.bioch.dundee.ac.uk/prodrg/

 as reference, and built yourself if necessary.
 
  Thank you very much!!!
 
  Best!
  Xueming
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: [gmx-users] Topology dihedral or improper dihedral

2011-11-13 Thread Justin A. Lemkul



XUEMING TANG wrote:
Thank you for your reply, Lina. I did try the prodrg server before. For 
A molecule, there is no improper dihedral. A just has one dihedral for 
the head group. For B molecule, it gives improper dihedral of the tetra 
nitrogen. I am wondering what is the criteria or at least a guidance of 
what could be the best choice for the topology file. Or any choices 
could be right and I have to try which one provide consistent results 
with experiment by trial?  



I see no reason why a quaternary nitrogen would need an improper dihedral 
assigned to it.  Some impropers in Gromos96 are applied to tetrahedral groups 
like alpha-carbons because there is no explicit H atom present, thus the 
stereochemistry is maintained with an improper so that the groups do not invert. 
 With four explicit substituents, an improper should not be necessary.


-Justin


Best!
Xueming

On Sun, Nov 13, 2011 at 9:57 AM, lina lina.lastn...@gmail.com 
mailto:lina.lastn...@gmail.com wrote:


On Sun, Nov 13, 2011 at 10:26 AM, XUEMING TANG yujan2...@gmail.com
mailto:yujan2...@gmail.com wrote:
  Hi there
 
  I am trying to build up a topology file for a tetra nitrogen
molecule using
  Gromos UA and OPLS UA force field. Following are the molecules.
 
  1. for  C
|
   A.  C-C-C-C-C-C-C-N-C and
|
   C
 
C
 |
   B.   C-C-C-C-C-C-C-N-C-C-C-C-COOH
 |
C
 
  I have several questions:
 
  For A, the first molecule, should I use improper dihedral for the
N-(CH3)3
  or proper dihedral for C-C-N-C with multi 3 for the head group?
Is there any
  differences when using different force field (GROMOS and OPLS-UA)?
  For B, the second molecule, should I use improper dihedral for
the N-(CH3)3
  or proer dihedral for C-C-N-C with multi 2? Is there any
differences when
  using different force field (GROMOS UA and OPLS UA)?
 
  The first expression about improper didedral is a planer
restriction. When
  read the manual it also refers to the tetrahedral structure like
this tetra
  nitrogen functional group. My question is when it has
  really long hydrocarbon tail, I guess it will be hard to flip over to
  the mirror images. Or it is not true in the simulation?

You may take one built by other server, such as
http://davapc1.bioch.dundee.ac.uk/prodrg/

as reference, and built yourself if necessary.
 
  Thank you very much!!!
 
  Best!
  Xueming
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: [gmx-users] Topology for a new ligand

2011-08-11 Thread Justin A. Lemkul



Kavyashree M wrote:

Dear gromacs users,

I wanted to know the steps to be followed
in order to generate a topology for a new
ligand. I went through the mailing list and
http://www.gromacs.org/Documentation/How-tos/Parameterization
but was not clear.



All force fields are different, and since you haven't said which one you're 
trying to use there's nothing that anyone can tell you.  Read the primary 
literature for the force field you want to use and follow the procedure laid out 
therein.


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Re: [gmx-users] Topology for a new ligand

2011-08-11 Thread Kavyashree M
Dear users,

I was mentioning about OPLSAA force field for ATP
and other small molecule.  I just wanted to know the
procedure to be followed and some guidance from
people who have created topologies for such
molecules manually. I am going through chapter 5 of
the manual. But wanted some useful suggestions.

Thank you
With Regards
M. Kavyashree


On Thu, Aug 11, 2011 at 5:03 PM, Justin A. Lemkul jalem...@vt.edu wrote:



 Kavyashree M wrote:

 Dear gromacs users,

 I wanted to know the steps to be followed
 in order to generate a topology for a new
 ligand. I went through the mailing list and
 http://www.gromacs.org/**Documentation/How-tos/**Parameterizationhttp://www.gromacs.org/Documentation/How-tos/Parameterization
 but was not clear.


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 trying to use there's nothing that anyone can tell you.  Read the primary
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Re: [gmx-users] Topology for a new ligand

2011-08-11 Thread Justin A. Lemkul



Kavyashree M wrote:

Dear users,

I was mentioning about OPLSAA force field for ATP
and other small molecule.  I just wanted to know the
procedure to be followed and some guidance from
people who have created topologies for such
molecules manually. I am going through chapter 5 of
the manual. But wanted some useful suggestions.



Methods for parameterizing molecules for OPLS-AA are described in fairly 
extensive detail in the 2001 OPLS-AA paper cited in the manual.  The manual 
itself will only tell you how to implement parameters in Gromacs, not how to 
derive them.


-Justin


Thank you
With Regards
M. Kavyashree


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Kavyashree M wrote:

Dear gromacs users,

I wanted to know the steps to be followed
in order to generate a topology for a new
ligand. I went through the mailing list and
http://www.gromacs.org/__Documentation/How-tos/__Parameterization
http://www.gromacs.org/Documentation/How-tos/Parameterization
but was not clear.


All force fields are different, and since you haven't said which one
you're trying to use there's nothing that anyone can tell you.  Read
the primary literature for the force field you want to use and
follow the procedure laid out therein.

-Justin

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Re: [gmx-users] Topology for a new ligand

2011-08-11 Thread Mark Abraham

On 12/08/2011 1:48 AM, Kavyashree M wrote:

Dear users,

I was mentioning about OPLSAA force field for ATP
and other small molecule.  I just wanted to know the
procedure to be followed and some guidance from
people who have created topologies for such
molecules manually. I am going through chapter 5 of
the manual. But wanted some useful suggestions.


The link you mentioned, and links from it contain all the 
readily-available information. For ATP, you may well find a validated 
topology in the published literature.


Mark



Thank you
With Regards
M. Kavyashree


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Kavyashree M wrote:

Dear gromacs users,

I wanted to know the steps to be followed
in order to generate a topology for a new
ligand. I went through the mailing list and
http://www.gromacs.org/Documentation/How-tos/Parameterization
but was not clear.


All force fields are different, and since you haven't said which
one you're trying to use there's nothing that anyone can tell you.
 Read the primary literature for the force field you want to use
and follow the procedure laid out therein.

-Justin

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Re: [gmx-users] Topology for nBuOH

2011-07-12 Thread Justin A. Lemkul



Juliana Angeiras wrote:

Hi,
 
I'm trying to include parameters of n-butanol in the topology file 
(below) (i'm not using opls or other force field for butanol), but when 
i run the grompp program, I obtain the following message:
 
Fatal error:

Atomtype Hb not found
 
How can I fix this problem?
 


Your directives are out of order.  If you define new atomtypes, etc. they have 
to be defined before they can be used.  See Chapter 5 of the manual.


-Justin


Thanks
 
Topology file:
 
; Include forcefield parameters 
#include oplsaa.ff/forcefield.itp 

; Include forcefield parameters 
#include oplsaa.ff/tip5p.itp  
[ moleculetype ]
; name  nrexcl 
BuOH 3  
 [ atoms ] 
;   nrtype   resnr  residuatomcgnrcharge  mass

 1  Hb  1   BuOH HO 1   0.38   1.0080
 2  O   1   BuOH OH 1  -0.66  15.9994
 3  C   1   BuOH CA 1   0.40  12.0110
 4  C   1   BuOH CB 1  -0.22  12.0110
 5  C   1   BuOH CC 1  -0.22  12.0110
 6  C   1   BuOH CD 1  -0.33  12.0110
 7  H   1   BuOH HA 1  -0.06   1.0080
 8  H   1   BuOH HB 1  -0.06   1.0080
 9  H   1   BuOH HC 1   0.11   1.0080
 10 H   1   BuOH HD 1   0.11   1.0080
 11 H   1   BuOH HE 1   0.11   1.0080
 12 H   1   BuOH HF 1   0.11   1.0080
 13 H   1   BuOH HG 1   0.11   1.0080
 14 H   1   BuOH HF 1   0.11   1.0080
 15 H   1   BuOH HG 1   0.11   1.0080
 [ atomtypes ]
; name   at.num   mass   charge   ptype   V(c6)   W(c12)
   Hb  1 1.0080 0.38   A   0.4149611E-07  0.9737356E-04
   O   815.9994-0.66   A   0.9722461E-06  0.1247853E-02
   C   612.0110 0.40   A   0.4895634E-05  0.2791672E-02
   C   612.0110-0.22   A   0.4895634E-05  0.2791672E-02  
   C   612.0110-0.33   A   0.4895634E-05  0.2791672E-02

   H   1 1.0080-0.06   A   0.4415162E-06  0.5131711E-03
   H   1 1.0080 0.11   A   0.4415162E-06  0.5131711E-03
 [ bondtype ]   
;  ai   aj funct   c0   c1 
   HB  O   1   0.10900   462750.4
   O   C   1   0.14300   376560.0 
   C   C   1   0.15300   265265.6
   H   C   1   0.10800   284512.0
 [ angletype ] 
;  aiajak func   c0c1   
  COHB  1108.000460.240
  CCO   1108.000418.400
  CCC   1112.000488.273
  HCH   1109.470292.000
 [ dihedrals ]   
  1  2  3  4  30.41840   1.25520   0.0  -1.67360   0.0   0.0

  2  3  4  5  32.87441   0.58158   2.09200  -5.54799   0.0   0.0
  3  4  5  6  32.92880  -1.46440   0.20920  -1.67360   0.0   0.0
 [ nonbond_params ]
; i   j   func   V(c6)   W(c12)
  H   H   1  0.4149611E-07  0.9737356E-04
  H   HW  1  0.4149611E-07  0.9737356E-04
  H   C   1  0.4415162E-06  0.5131711E-03
  H   O   1  0.1927397E-06  0.3416812E-03
  H   OW  1  0.1927397E-06  0.3416812E-03
  H   Hb  1  0.4149611E-07  0.9737356E-04
  HW  HW  1  0.000E+00  0.000E+00
  HW  C   1  0.4415162E-06  0.5131711E-03
  HW  O   1  0.000E+00  0.000E+00
  HW  OW  1  0.000E+00  0.000E+00
  HW  Hb  1  0.4149611E-07  0.9737356E-04
  C   C   1  0.4895634E-05  0.2791672E-02
  C   O   1  0.2159724E-05  0.1866537E-02
  C   OW  1  0.2159724E-05  0.1866537E-02
  C   Hb  1  0.4415162E-06  0.5131711E-03
  O   O   1  0.9722461E-06  0.1247853E-02
  O   OW  1  0.1562282E-05  0.1785000E-02
  O   Hb  1  0.000E+00  0.000E+00
  OW  OW  1  0.2510400E-05  0.2552000E-02
  OW  Hb  1  0.000E+00  0.000E+00
  Hb  Hb  1  0.4149611E-07  0.9737356E-04
 [ system ]
 ; Name
 BuOH in water
 [ molecules ]
 ; Compound#mols
 BuOH   343
 SOL185
 
 
 



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Re: [gmx-users] Topology

2011-03-11 Thread Justin A. Lemkul



chitrala kumaraswamynaidu wrote:
Iam working with a NMR protein containing Zn ions. After generating 
topology file using pdb2gmx, it is generating topology files containing 
Protein and ions separately. How can i solve this.




pdb2gmx -chainsep (-merge in old versions).

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Re: [gmx-users] topology files for ligands in MD Simulation under OPLS AA force field

2011-02-24 Thread Justin A. Lemkul



mirc...@sjtu.edu.cn wrote:

Dear All:

I am using GROMACS package to do molecular dynamics simulations under 
OPLS_AA force field. I encounter some problems when preparing the 
topology files of small molecules (ligands).My questions are as follows:


1, how to chose the atom type of each atom from the ligands?

2, how to define the charges of each atom? I know that, when the atom 
type is defined, there will be a corresponding charge to this atom type. 
Does it safe to use this charge in the simulations on the ligands (since 
these charges are designed for amino acids)?




Proper parameterization is a difficult task.  See, for instance:

http://www.gromacs.org/Documentation/How-tos/Parameterization

3,When the atom type and the charge of atom are defined, how to prepare 
the file in the GROMACS format? Does there easier method to prepare such 
files than manually?




There is at least one script (topolgen.pl) in the User Contributions section of 
the Gromacs site, but it is not terribly intelligent and the resulting topology 
should not be viewed as something that you should use without proper validation.


http://www.gromacs.org/Downloads/User_contributions/Other_software

Otherwise, break out Chapter 5 of the manual (something you should probably do 
anyway) and your favorite text editor.


-Justin

Thank you very much for your time and your kindness. I really appreciate 
if any one can share their experience in preparing the topology files 
for ligands used under OPLS_AA force field and GROMACS package.


Sincerely Yours

Ruo-Xu Gu




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Re: [gmx-users] topology with all hydrogens

2011-02-06 Thread Tsjerk Wassenaar
Hi Mohsen,

So you want to have a topology with all atoms for use in a united atom force
field? Seems a bit awkward... PRODRG will only include polar hydrogens, in
accordance with the GROMOS force field. It won't be a particular trustworthy
topology, though, but you've probably caught the words of caution expressed
regularly on this list.

Cheers,

Tsjerk

On Feb 6, 2011 9:42 AM, mohsen ramezanpour ramezanpour.moh...@gmail.com
wrote:

Dear All

I want to generate a topology file in 43A1 force field for a small molecule.
Of course I want one which contains all hydrogens in that.
PRODRG doesn't generate like this.do you know another server with these
conditions?

Thanks in advance
Mohsen

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Re: [gmx-users] topology with all hydrogens

2011-02-06 Thread mohsen ramezanpour
Dear Dr.Tsjerk

I know it.I know PRODRG is not very valid for evaluating free
energies(According to Dr.Justin article) too.
But the problem is here:
If I know all of hydrigenes are polar,how can I have a topology with all of
them?
Actually there are so many polar H in my small molecules which are not
included in topology file!!
These can change the number of Hydrogen bonds and as a resut my binding free
energy!!!


I want to do a new work about these,I have something excellent in my mind.
I only need a topology file with all hydrogenes in 43A1 force field.
Is there any way(except manually adding hydrogenes)?
Please let me know.
I will present  a new and excellent method instead of using PRODRG
Thanks in advance
Mohsen

On Sun, Feb 6, 2011 at 1:23 PM, Tsjerk Wassenaar tsje...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi Mohsen,

 So you want to have a topology with all atoms for use in a united atom
 force field? Seems a bit awkward... PRODRG will only include polar
 hydrogens, in accordance with the GROMOS force field. It won't be a
 particular trustworthy topology, though, but you've probably caught the
 words of caution expressed regularly on this list.

 Cheers,

 Tsjerk

 On Feb 6, 2011 9:42 AM, mohsen ramezanpour ramezanpour.moh...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 Dear All

 I want to generate a topology file in 43A1 force field for a small
 molecule.
 Of course I want one which contains all hydrogens in that.
 PRODRG doesn't generate like this.do you know another server with these
 conditions?

 Thanks in advance
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Re: [gmx-users] topology with all hydrogens

2011-02-06 Thread Tsjerk Wassenaar
Hi Mohsen,

Now I wouldn't want to get in the way of excellent ideas :)
Check the PRODRG FAQ. It is explained there (somewhere) how to force
inclusion of hydrogens.

Cheers,

Tsjerk

On Feb 6, 2011 11:39 AM, mohsen ramezanpour ramezanpour.moh...@gmail.com
wrote:

Dear Dr.Tsjerk

I know it.I know PRODRG is not very valid for evaluating free
energies(According to Dr.Justin article) too.
But the problem is here:
If I know all of hydrigenes are polar,how can I have a topology with all of
them?
Actually there are so many polar H in my small molecules which are not
included in topology file!!
These can change the number of Hydrogen bonds and as a resut my binding free
energy!!!


I want to do a new work about these,I have something excellent in my mind.
I only need a topology file with all hydrogenes in 43A1 force field.
Is there any way(except manually adding hydrogenes)?
Please let me know.
I will present  a new and excellent method instead of using PRODRG
Thanks in advance
Mohsen

On Sun, Feb 6, 2011 at 1:23 PM, Tsjerk Wassenaar tsje...@gmail.com wrote:
  Hi Mohsen,   So ...

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Re: [gmx-users] topology file for two molecules

2010-09-28 Thread Mark Abraham
Look up the include file mechanism on the webpage.

Mark

- Original Message -
From: Gavin Melaugh gmelaug...@qub.ac.uk
Date: Tuesday, September 28, 2010 19:04
Subject: [gmx-users] topology file for two molecules
To: Discussion list for GROMACS users gmx-users@gromacs.org

 Hi all
 
 I want to run a simulation of one tert-pentane molecule inside one
 organic cage molecule. I have the topology files for both 
 molecules but
 obviously I only need one .top file as the input for grompp. 
 What is the
 most convenient way of having both topologies in one file?
 
 Many Thanks
 
 Gavin
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Re: [gmx-users] topology file for two molecules

2010-09-28 Thread Gavin Melaugh
Hi Mark.

I have looked this up, but I am a little uncertain. Does one of the
topologies have to be included within the other as an .itp file. If so
do I only define the [defaults directive] in the .top file i.e. I take
it I don't include this directive in the .itp file as well.

Cheers

Gavin

Mark Abraham wrote:
 Look up the include file mechanism on the webpage.

 Mark

 - Original Message -
 From: Gavin Melaugh gmelaug...@qub.ac.uk
 Date: Tuesday, September 28, 2010 19:04
 Subject: [gmx-users] topology file for two molecules
 To: Discussion list for GROMACS users gmx-users@gromacs.org

  Hi all
 
  I want to run a simulation of one tert-pentane molecule inside one
  organic cage molecule. I have the topology files for both
  molecules but
  obviously I only need one .top file as the input for grompp.
  What is the
  most convenient way of having both topologies in one file?
 
  Many Thanks
 
  Gavin
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Re: [gmx-users] topology file for two molecules

2010-09-28 Thread Justin A. Lemkul



Gavin Melaugh wrote:

Hi Mark.

I have looked this up, but I am a little uncertain. Does one of the
topologies have to be included within the other as an .itp file. If so


No.  You #include .itp files to simply add molecules within a .top; it would be 
very rare to #include an .itp within an .itp (although it can be done).  For 
your case, your .top is simple:


#include (force field)

#include cage.itp
#include pentane.itp

[ system ]
My system

[ molecules ]
Cage1
Pentane 1


do I only define the [defaults directive] in the .top file i.e. I take
it I don't include this directive in the .itp file as well.



The [defaults] directive is provided by whatever force field you #include.  If 
you're using some custom parameters, then it needs to be defined once (and only 
once) at the top of your .top file.  Otherwise, you'll get fatal errors from grompp.


-Justin


Cheers

Gavin

Mark Abraham wrote:

Look up the include file mechanism on the webpage.

Mark

- Original Message -
From: Gavin Melaugh gmelaug...@qub.ac.uk
Date: Tuesday, September 28, 2010 19:04
Subject: [gmx-users] topology file for two molecules
To: Discussion list for GROMACS users gmx-users@gromacs.org


Hi all

I want to run a simulation of one tert-pentane molecule inside one
organic cage molecule. I have the topology files for both
molecules but
obviously I only need one .top file as the input for grompp.
What is the
most convenient way of having both topologies in one file?

Many Thanks

Gavin
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Re: [gmx-users] topology file for two molecules

2010-09-28 Thread Gavin Melaugh
Hi Justin

Cheers. I have attached my pentane itp file. The cage itp is formatted
the same. In the examples there never seems to be [atom types] included.
I have included it. Does it seem O.K?

Gavin

Justin A. Lemkul wrote:


 Gavin Melaugh wrote:
 Hi Mark.

 I have looked this up, but I am a little uncertain. Does one of the
 topologies have to be included within the other as an .itp file. If so

 No.  You #include .itp files to simply add molecules within a .top; it
 would be very rare to #include an .itp within an .itp (although it can
 be done).  For your case, your .top is simple:

 #include (force field)

 #include cage.itp
 #include pentane.itp

 [ system ]
 My system

 [ molecules ]
 Cage1
 Pentane 1

 do I only define the [defaults directive] in the .top file i.e. I take
 it I don't include this directive in the .itp file as well.


 The [defaults] directive is provided by whatever force field you
 #include.  If you're using some custom parameters, then it needs to be
 defined once (and only once) at the top of your .top file.  Otherwise,
 you'll get fatal errors from grompp.

 -Justin

 Cheers

 Gavin

 Mark Abraham wrote:
 Look up the include file mechanism on the webpage.

 Mark

 - Original Message -
 From: Gavin Melaugh gmelaug...@qub.ac.uk
 Date: Tuesday, September 28, 2010 19:04
 Subject: [gmx-users] topology file for two molecules
 To: Discussion list for GROMACS users gmx-users@gromacs.org

 Hi all

 I want to run a simulation of one tert-pentane molecule inside one
 organic cage molecule. I have the topology files for both
 molecules but
 obviously I only need one .top file as the input for grompp.
 What is the
 most convenient way of having both topologies in one file?

 Many Thanks

 Gavin
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[atomtypes]
;type mass   charge  ptype sigma(nm) epsilon(kjmol-1)
   CT 12.011000 -0.18   A  0.35  0.276144
   HC  1.008000  0.06   A  0.25  0.125520

;Molecular level
[moleculetype]
;   name nrexcl
tertpentane  3

[atoms]
; atomnr  type   resnr  residue   namecgnr charge mass
1  CT   1PENT  CT   1  0. 12.0110
2  CT   1PENT  CT   1 -0.1800 12.0110
3  CT   1PENT  CT   1 -0.1800 12.0110
4  CT   1PENT  CT   1 -0.1800 12.0110
5  CT   1PENT  CT   1 -0.1800 12.0110
6  HC   1PENT  HC   1  0.0600  1.0080
7  HC   1PENT  HC   1  0.0600  1.0080
8  HC   1PENT  HC   1  0.0600  1.0080
9  HC   1PENT  HC   1  0.0600  1.0080
   10  HC   1PENT  HC   1  0.0600  1.0080
   11  HC   1PENT  HC   1  0.0600  1.0080
   12  HC   1PENT  HC   1  0.0600  1.0080
   13  HC   1PENT  HC   1  0.0600  1.0080
   14  HC   1PENT  HC   1  0.0600  1.0080
   15  HC   1PENT  HC   1  0.0600  1.0080
   16  HC   1PENT  HC   1  0.0600  1.0080
   17  HC   1PENT  HC   1  0.0600  1.0080

[bonds]
;  aiaj   func   b0(nm)   kb(kjmol-1 nm-2)
1 2 1 0.1529  224262.4
1 3 1 0.1529  224262.4
1 4 1 0.1529  224262.4
1 5 1 0.1529  224262.4
2 6 1 0.1090  284512.0
2 7 1 0.1090  284512.0
2 8 1 0.1090  284512.0
3 9 1 0.1090  284512.0
310 1 0.1090  284512.0
311 1 0.1090  284512.0
412 1 0.1090  284512.0
413 1 0.1090  284512.0
414 1 0.1090  284512.0
515 1 0.1090  284512.0
516 1 0.1090  284512.0
517 1 0.1090  284512.0

[angles]
;  aiajak   func  theta(deg)ktheta(kjmol-1 rad-2)
2 1 3 1 112.70  488.2728
2 1 4 1 112.70  488.2728
2 1 5 1 112.70  488.2728
3 1 4 1 112.70  488.2728
3 1 5 1 112.70  488.2728 
4 1 5 1 112.70  488.2728
1 2 6 1 110.70  313.8000
1 2 7 1 110.70  313.8000
1 2 8 1 110.70  313.8000

Re: [gmx-users] topology file for two molecules

2010-09-28 Thread Justin A. Lemkul



Gavin Melaugh wrote:

Hi Justin

Cheers. I have attached my pentane itp file. The cage itp is formatted
the same. In the examples there never seems to be [atom types] included.
I have included it. Does it seem O.K?



You only need to use an [atomtypes] directive if you're introducing new atom 
types into the force field.  I don't know if it's necessary.  I also don't know 
if these sections can be discontinuous (i.e., one section present in cage.itp, 
another in tertpentane.itp).  Try the approach I sent you and see.  If you get 
fatal errors, then you may have to assemble a single [atomtypes] directive and 
put it either in the first .itp file you #include, or before any of the 
#includes in the .top (since #include really just means cut-and-paste the stuff 
here, it works the same).


-Justin


Gavin

Justin A. Lemkul wrote:


Gavin Melaugh wrote:

Hi Mark.

I have looked this up, but I am a little uncertain. Does one of the
topologies have to be included within the other as an .itp file. If so

No.  You #include .itp files to simply add molecules within a .top; it
would be very rare to #include an .itp within an .itp (although it can
be done).  For your case, your .top is simple:

#include (force field)

#include cage.itp
#include pentane.itp

[ system ]
My system

[ molecules ]
Cage1
Pentane 1


do I only define the [defaults directive] in the .top file i.e. I take
it I don't include this directive in the .itp file as well.


The [defaults] directive is provided by whatever force field you
#include.  If you're using some custom parameters, then it needs to be
defined once (and only once) at the top of your .top file.  Otherwise,
you'll get fatal errors from grompp.

-Justin


Cheers

Gavin

Mark Abraham wrote:

Look up the include file mechanism on the webpage.

Mark

- Original Message -
From: Gavin Melaugh gmelaug...@qub.ac.uk
Date: Tuesday, September 28, 2010 19:04
Subject: [gmx-users] topology file for two molecules
To: Discussion list for GROMACS users gmx-users@gromacs.org


Hi all

I want to run a simulation of one tert-pentane molecule inside one
organic cage molecule. I have the topology files for both
molecules but
obviously I only need one .top file as the input for grompp.
What is the
most convenient way of having both topologies in one file?

Many Thanks

Gavin
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Re: [gmx-users] topology file for two molecules

2010-09-28 Thread Gavin Melaugh
O.K

Cheers

Gavin

Justin A. Lemkul wrote:


 Gavin Melaugh wrote:
 Hi Justin

 Cheers. I have attached my pentane itp file. The cage itp is formatted
 the same. In the examples there never seems to be [atom types] included.
 I have included it. Does it seem O.K?


 You only need to use an [atomtypes] directive if you're introducing
 new atom types into the force field.  I don't know if it's necessary. 
 I also don't know if these sections can be discontinuous (i.e., one
 section present in cage.itp, another in tertpentane.itp).  Try the
 approach I sent you and see.  If you get fatal errors, then you may
 have to assemble a single [atomtypes] directive and put it either in
 the first .itp file you #include, or before any of the #includes in
 the .top (since #include really just means cut-and-paste the stuff
 here, it works the same).

 -Justin

 Gavin

 Justin A. Lemkul wrote:

 Gavin Melaugh wrote:
 Hi Mark.

 I have looked this up, but I am a little uncertain. Does one of the
 topologies have to be included within the other as an .itp file. If so
 No.  You #include .itp files to simply add molecules within a .top; it
 would be very rare to #include an .itp within an .itp (although it can
 be done).  For your case, your .top is simple:

 #include (force field)

 #include cage.itp
 #include pentane.itp

 [ system ]
 My system

 [ molecules ]
 Cage1
 Pentane 1

 do I only define the [defaults directive] in the .top file i.e. I take
 it I don't include this directive in the .itp file as well.

 The [defaults] directive is provided by whatever force field you
 #include.  If you're using some custom parameters, then it needs to be
 defined once (and only once) at the top of your .top file.  Otherwise,
 you'll get fatal errors from grompp.

 -Justin

 Cheers

 Gavin

 Mark Abraham wrote:
 Look up the include file mechanism on the webpage.

 Mark

 - Original Message -
 From: Gavin Melaugh gmelaug...@qub.ac.uk
 Date: Tuesday, September 28, 2010 19:04
 Subject: [gmx-users] topology file for two molecules
 To: Discussion list for GROMACS users gmx-users@gromacs.org

 Hi all

 I want to run a simulation of one tert-pentane molecule inside one
 organic cage molecule. I have the topology files for both
 molecules but
 obviously I only need one .top file as the input for grompp.
 What is the
 most convenient way of having both topologies in one file?

 Many Thanks

 Gavin
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Re: [gmx-users] topology file for two molecules

2010-09-28 Thread Gavin Melaugh
Hi Justin

I Did the following and it worked. You were right about using one atom
types directive. If you don't mind I have another query. In all my
topology files to date (one molecule type), I have always listed the
atomtypes in the [atomtypes] directive, and used the set up in
[defaults] below. Is this all that is required for the calculation of
the LJ energies. I have never used a pair list, a pair types directive
or a nonbond_params directive. From the output I still get LJ energies
but I am slightly confused by all the different options.

parameter level
[defaults]
; nbfunccomb-rule gen-pairsfudgeLJ fudgeQQ
 1 3  yes0.5 0.5

[atomtypes]
;type mass   charge  ptype sigma(nm)
epsilon(kjmol-1)
   CB 12.011000  0.00   A  0.355000  0.292880
   CA 12.011000 -0.115000   A  0.355000  0.292880
   HC  1.008000  0.115000   A  0.242000  0.125520
   CU 13.019000  0.265000   A  0.35  0.334720
   NU 14.007000 -0.597000   A  0.325000  0.711280
   CH 13.019000  0.332000   A  0.385000  0.334720
   C3 15.035000  0.00   A  0.390500  0.732200
   CT 12.011000 -0.18   A  0.35  0.276144
   HH  1.008000  0.06   A  0.25  0.125520

#include tertpentane.itp
#include methylcage.itp

;System level
[system]
;the name of this system
cage and pentane

[molecules]
; moleculename number
 tertpentane  1
 methylcage   1


Justin A. Lemkul wrote:


 Gavin Melaugh wrote:
 Hi Justin

 Cheers. I have attached my pentane itp file. The cage itp is formatted
 the same. In the examples there never seems to be [atom types] included.
 I have included it. Does it seem O.K?


 You only need to use an [atomtypes] directive if you're introducing
 new atom types into the force field.  I don't know if it's necessary. 
 I also don't know if these sections can be discontinuous (i.e., one
 section present in cage.itp, another in tertpentane.itp).  Try the
 approach I sent you and see.  If you get fatal errors, then you may
 have to assemble a single [atomtypes] directive and put it either in
 the first .itp file you #include, or before any of the #includes in
 the .top (since #include really just means cut-and-paste the stuff
 here, it works the same).

 -Justin

 Gavin

 Justin A. Lemkul wrote:

 Gavin Melaugh wrote:
 Hi Mark.

 I have looked this up, but I am a little uncertain. Does one of the
 topologies have to be included within the other as an .itp file. If so
 No.  You #include .itp files to simply add molecules within a .top; it
 would be very rare to #include an .itp within an .itp (although it can
 be done).  For your case, your .top is simple:

 #include (force field)

 #include cage.itp
 #include pentane.itp

 [ system ]
 My system

 [ molecules ]
 Cage1
 Pentane 1

 do I only define the [defaults directive] in the .top file i.e. I take
 it I don't include this directive in the .itp file as well.

 The [defaults] directive is provided by whatever force field you
 #include.  If you're using some custom parameters, then it needs to be
 defined once (and only once) at the top of your .top file.  Otherwise,
 you'll get fatal errors from grompp.

 -Justin

 Cheers

 Gavin

 Mark Abraham wrote:
 Look up the include file mechanism on the webpage.

 Mark

 - Original Message -
 From: Gavin Melaugh gmelaug...@qub.ac.uk
 Date: Tuesday, September 28, 2010 19:04
 Subject: [gmx-users] topology file for two molecules
 To: Discussion list for GROMACS users gmx-users@gromacs.org

 Hi all

 I want to run a simulation of one tert-pentane molecule inside one
 organic cage molecule. I have the topology files for both
 molecules but
 obviously I only need one .top file as the input for grompp.
 What is the
 most convenient way of having both topologies in one file?

 Many Thanks

 Gavin
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Re: [gmx-users] topology file for two molecules

2010-09-28 Thread Justin A. Lemkul



Gavin Melaugh wrote:

Hi Justin

I Did the following and it worked. You were right about using one atom
types directive. If you don't mind I have another query. In all my
topology files to date (one molecule type), I have always listed the
atomtypes in the [atomtypes] directive, and used the set up in
[defaults] below. Is this all that is required for the calculation of
the LJ energies. I have never used a pair list, a pair types directive
or a nonbond_params directive. From the output I still get LJ energies
but I am slightly confused by all the different options.



I can't give a better explanation than what is already in the manual, 
specifically section 5.3.3 ([nonbond_params] and whether or not you need it). 
Whether or not you need [pairs] depends on the underlying mechanics of the force 
field you're using.  See section 5.3.5.


-Justin


parameter level
[defaults]
; nbfunccomb-rule gen-pairsfudgeLJ fudgeQQ
 1 3  yes0.5 0.5

[atomtypes]
;type mass   charge  ptype sigma(nm)
epsilon(kjmol-1)

   CB 12.011000  0.00   A  0.355000  0.292880
   CA 12.011000 -0.115000   A  0.355000  0.292880
   HC  1.008000  0.115000   A  0.242000  0.125520
   CU 13.019000  0.265000   A  0.35  0.334720
   NU 14.007000 -0.597000   A  0.325000  0.711280
   CH 13.019000  0.332000   A  0.385000  0.334720
   C3 15.035000  0.00   A  0.390500  0.732200
   CT 12.011000 -0.18   A  0.35  0.276144
   HH  1.008000  0.06   A  0.25  0.125520

#include tertpentane.itp
#include methylcage.itp

;System level
[system]
;the name of this system
cage and pentane

[molecules]
; moleculename number
 tertpentane  1
 methylcage   1


Justin A. Lemkul wrote:


Gavin Melaugh wrote:

Hi Justin

Cheers. I have attached my pentane itp file. The cage itp is formatted
the same. In the examples there never seems to be [atom types] included.
I have included it. Does it seem O.K?


You only need to use an [atomtypes] directive if you're introducing
new atom types into the force field.  I don't know if it's necessary. 
I also don't know if these sections can be discontinuous (i.e., one

section present in cage.itp, another in tertpentane.itp).  Try the
approach I sent you and see.  If you get fatal errors, then you may
have to assemble a single [atomtypes] directive and put it either in
the first .itp file you #include, or before any of the #includes in
the .top (since #include really just means cut-and-paste the stuff
here, it works the same).

-Justin


Gavin

Justin A. Lemkul wrote:

Gavin Melaugh wrote:

Hi Mark.

I have looked this up, but I am a little uncertain. Does one of the
topologies have to be included within the other as an .itp file. If so

No.  You #include .itp files to simply add molecules within a .top; it
would be very rare to #include an .itp within an .itp (although it can
be done).  For your case, your .top is simple:

#include (force field)

#include cage.itp
#include pentane.itp

[ system ]
My system

[ molecules ]
Cage1
Pentane 1


do I only define the [defaults directive] in the .top file i.e. I take
it I don't include this directive in the .itp file as well.


The [defaults] directive is provided by whatever force field you
#include.  If you're using some custom parameters, then it needs to be
defined once (and only once) at the top of your .top file.  Otherwise,
you'll get fatal errors from grompp.

-Justin


Cheers

Gavin

Mark Abraham wrote:

Look up the include file mechanism on the webpage.

Mark

- Original Message -
From: Gavin Melaugh gmelaug...@qub.ac.uk
Date: Tuesday, September 28, 2010 19:04
Subject: [gmx-users] topology file for two molecules
To: Discussion list for GROMACS users gmx-users@gromacs.org


Hi all

I want to run a simulation of one tert-pentane molecule inside one
organic cage molecule. I have the topology files for both
molecules but
obviously I only need one .top file as the input for grompp.
What is the
most convenient way of having both topologies in one file?

Many Thanks

Gavin
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ICTAS Doctoral Scholar
MILES-IGERT Trainee
Department of Biochemistry
Virginia Tech
Blacksburg, VA
jalemkul[at]vt.edu | (540) 231-9080
http://www.bevanlab.biochem.vt.edu/Pages/Personal/justin


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Re: [gmx-users] topology file for two molecules

2010-09-28 Thread Gavin Melaugh
Justin

Cheers, I had just posted a more general query prior to you getting
back? It is perhaps not as vague.

Gavin

Justin A. Lemkul wrote:


 Gavin Melaugh wrote:
 Hi Justin

 I Did the following and it worked. You were right about using one atom
 types directive. If you don't mind I have another query. In all my
 topology files to date (one molecule type), I have always listed the
 atomtypes in the [atomtypes] directive, and used the set up in
 [defaults] below. Is this all that is required for the calculation of
 the LJ energies. I have never used a pair list, a pair types directive
 or a nonbond_params directive. From the output I still get LJ energies
 but I am slightly confused by all the different options.


 I can't give a better explanation than what is already in the manual,
 specifically section 5.3.3 ([nonbond_params] and whether or not you
 need it). Whether or not you need [pairs] depends on the underlying
 mechanics of the force field you're using.  See section 5.3.5.

 -Justin

 parameter level
 [defaults]
 ; nbfunccomb-rule gen-pairsfudgeLJ fudgeQQ
  1 3  yes0.5 0.5

 [atomtypes]
 ;type mass   charge  ptype sigma(nm)   
 epsilon(kjmol-1)
CB 12.011000  0.00   A  0.355000  0.292880
CA 12.011000 -0.115000   A  0.355000  0.292880
HC  1.008000  0.115000   A  0.242000  0.125520
CU 13.019000  0.265000   A  0.35  0.334720
NU 14.007000 -0.597000   A  0.325000  0.711280
CH 13.019000  0.332000   A  0.385000  0.334720
C3 15.035000  0.00   A  0.390500  0.732200
CT 12.011000 -0.18   A  0.35  0.276144
HH  1.008000  0.06   A  0.25  0.125520

 #include tertpentane.itp
 #include methylcage.itp

 ;System level
 [system]
 ;the name of this system
 cage and pentane

 [molecules]
 ; moleculename number
  tertpentane  1
  methylcage   1


 Justin A. Lemkul wrote:

 Gavin Melaugh wrote:
 Hi Justin

 Cheers. I have attached my pentane itp file. The cage itp is formatted
 the same. In the examples there never seems to be [atom types]
 included.
 I have included it. Does it seem O.K?

 You only need to use an [atomtypes] directive if you're introducing
 new atom types into the force field.  I don't know if it's
 necessary. I also don't know if these sections can be discontinuous
 (i.e., one
 section present in cage.itp, another in tertpentane.itp).  Try the
 approach I sent you and see.  If you get fatal errors, then you may
 have to assemble a single [atomtypes] directive and put it either in
 the first .itp file you #include, or before any of the #includes in
 the .top (since #include really just means cut-and-paste the stuff
 here, it works the same).

 -Justin

 Gavin

 Justin A. Lemkul wrote:
 Gavin Melaugh wrote:
 Hi Mark.

 I have looked this up, but I am a little uncertain. Does one of the
 topologies have to be included within the other as an .itp file.
 If so
 No.  You #include .itp files to simply add molecules within a
 .top; it
 would be very rare to #include an .itp within an .itp (although it
 can
 be done).  For your case, your .top is simple:

 #include (force field)

 #include cage.itp
 #include pentane.itp

 [ system ]
 My system

 [ molecules ]
 Cage1
 Pentane 1

 do I only define the [defaults directive] in the .top file i.e. I
 take
 it I don't include this directive in the .itp file as well.

 The [defaults] directive is provided by whatever force field you
 #include.  If you're using some custom parameters, then it needs
 to be
 defined once (and only once) at the top of your .top file. 
 Otherwise,
 you'll get fatal errors from grompp.

 -Justin

 Cheers

 Gavin

 Mark Abraham wrote:
 Look up the include file mechanism on the webpage.

 Mark

 - Original Message -
 From: Gavin Melaugh gmelaug...@qub.ac.uk
 Date: Tuesday, September 28, 2010 19:04
 Subject: [gmx-users] topology file for two molecules
 To: Discussion list for GROMACS users gmx-users@gromacs.org

 Hi all

 I want to run a simulation of one tert-pentane molecule inside one
 organic cage molecule. I have the topology files for both
 molecules but
 obviously I only need one .top file as the input for grompp.
 What is the
 most convenient way of having both topologies in one file?

 Many Thanks

 Gavin
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Re: [gmx-users] topology for a cyclic peptide

2010-07-25 Thread Justin A. Lemkul



Rebeca García Fandiño wrote:

Hi,
I am trying to get  the topology of a cyclic peptide, but when I try to 
do pdb2pgx I get automatically the correction to a terminal one.
I have looked in the Gromacs list and I only have found a entry about 
it,  http://osdir.com/ml/science.biology.gromacs.user/2006-08/msg00297.html

but I cannot find a solution from there.
Does anyone have any idea about it, please?


You'll have to do a bit of manual work yourself.  I don't entirely understand 
the approach quoted above, but running pdb2gxm -ter (choosing None for both 
termini), then adding all necessary bonded information (bonds, angles, 
dihedrals, and impropers) manually should do the trick.


-Justin


Thanks a lot for your help.
Best wishes,

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Re: [gmx-users] Topology files for OPLSAA and RESP charges

2010-05-26 Thread Nicolas Sapay

Hello,

I just read your message... As far as I know, the RESP charge method is 
mainly employed forthe AMBER force field and associated (GLYCAM, GAFF, 
etc). I would check first that RESP is compatible with the method 
employed to develop OPLS-AA. Note that the AmberTools provide some 
scripts to calculate RESP charges. I have also used the RED server 
(http://q4md-forcefieldtools.org/REDS/), which is quite convenient when 
you want to take into account different conformations of a same 
molecule. In all cases, you will need to provide to those tools the 
molecular electrostatic potential of your molecule. None of this tools 
can generate a Gromacs topology file, however.


Regards,
Nicolas

Tanos C. C. Franca a écrit :

   Dear GROMACS users,
   I'm trying to start running jobs using RESP charges and OPLSAA 
force field but I am facing problems to generate the RESP charges and 
the topology files for the OPLSAA force field. Does someone knows a 
software to calculate the RESP charges for the ligands and/or, also, 
to generate the .itp files for OPLSAA ?

   With the best regards,
   Tanos C. C. Franca.
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Re: [gmx-users] Topology files for OPLSAA and RESP charges

2010-05-23 Thread Mark Abraham
- Original Message -
From: Tanos C. C. Franca ta...@ime.eb.br
Date: Monday, May 24, 2010 1:03
Subject: [gmx-users] Topology files for OPLSAA and RESP charges
To: gmx-users@gromacs.org

    Dear GROMACS users,
    I'm trying to start running jobs using RESP charges 
 and OPLSAA force field but I am facing problems to generate the 
 RESP charges and the topology files for the OPLSAA force field. 
 Does someone knows a software to calculate the RESP charges for 
 the ligands and/or, also, to generate the .itp files for OPLSAA ?

The general advice is here: 
http://www.gromacs.org/Documentation/How-tos/Parametrization. I am not aware of 
an OPLSAA-specific helper tool. Be wary of presupposing that use of RESP is 
correct for OPLSAA.

Mark
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Re: [gmx-users] Topology and force fields

2010-04-05 Thread Gareth Tribello
Hello

I think what you have been told is wrong.  You need to include both
ffcharmm27.itp and tip3p.itp as the atomtypes in your tip3p.itp will
otherwise not be defined.  There is an easy way to check though - take out
the include ffcharmm27.itp and try to run grompp on your new topology.  My
bet would be that it won't work and, if you are using rigid molecules, it
will tell you that it finds a settles section in the wrong place.

ciao
Gareth

On Mon, Apr 5, 2010 at 7:26 PM, Lum Nforbi lumngwe...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hello all,

 Below are the contents of a water1.top file that I used to simulate
 2000 molecules of TIP3P water (NPT).  I made this topology file according to
 the pattern on page 114 of the manual (topology for Urea in water). My
 diffusion coefficient, viscosity and radial distribution functions matched
 those for tip3p water in literature.
 Recently I was told that I did not need to use another force field
 in the topology like ffcharmm27.itp since tip3p.itp is already a forcefield
 on its own. Could this be true? I just wanted to verify the authenticity of
 my simulation. If the structure of the topology below is not correct, please
 let me know.

 ; The force field files to be included
 #include ffcharmm27.itp

 ; Include TIP3P water topology
 #include tip3p.itp

 [ system ]
 Pure Water

 [ molecules ]
 ;molecule name number
 SOL  1936
 SOL64

 I appreciate your answers.

 Lum

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Re: [gmx-users] Topology and force fields

2010-04-05 Thread Justin A. Lemkul



Gareth Tribello wrote:

Hello

I think what you have been told is wrong.  You need to include both 
ffcharmm27.itp and tip3p.itp as the atomtypes in your tip3p.itp will 


That is exactly what was in the original topology, no problem there.  There are 
no [atomtypes] in tip3p.itp; these are defined by ff*nb.itp.


otherwise not be defined.  There is an easy way to check though - take 
out the include ffcharmm27.itp and try to run grompp on your new 
topology.  My bet would be that it won't work and, if you are using 
rigid molecules, it will tell you that it finds a settles section in the 
wrong place.




More likely grompp will raise a fatal error that the atomtypes are not found, 
before anything else happens :)


You could, in theory, run a simulation of just water by specifying a all the 
directives listed at the parameter level (Table 5.3 and section 5.7.1 in the 
manual) in the .top file, then #include tip3p.itp - that's all that's really 
necessary.  Using the #include mechanism with an existing force field solves 
this problem for you.  The combination rules of the Gromos, OPLS, and CHARMM 
force fields are all different (manual section 5.3.3, equations 5.3 and 5.4), 
but I don't know offhand what effect that might have on your results.


TIP3P itself is not really a force field, it is a set of parameters that model a 
single molecule.  The interaction function (the other part of a force field) is 
defined by the functional forms defined by ff*.itp in the parameter-level 
directives.  Otherwise, the atom types and nonbonded parameters for a water 
model should be uniform, that is, independent of the force field chosen (with 
the only modifications being conversion between sigma/epsilon and C6/C12, per 
force field requirements).  Your treatment of other .mdp parameters will affect 
your results, as well, but many of these should be prescribed in the derivation 
of the parameters or in subsequent modifications and extensions.


-Justin


ciao
Gareth

On Mon, Apr 5, 2010 at 7:26 PM, Lum Nforbi lumngwe...@gmail.com 
mailto:lumngwe...@gmail.com wrote:


Hello all,

Below are the contents of a water1.top file that I used to
simulate 2000 molecules of TIP3P water (NPT).  I made this topology
file according to the pattern on page 114 of the manual (topology
for Urea in water). My diffusion coefficient, viscosity and radial
distribution functions matched those for tip3p water in literature.
Recently I was told that I did not need to use another force
field in the topology like ffcharmm27.itp since tip3p.itp is already
a forcefield on its own. Could this be true? I just wanted to verify
the authenticity of my simulation. If the structure of the topology
below is not correct, please let me know.

; The force field files to be included
#include ffcharmm27.itp

; Include TIP3P water topology
#include tip3p.itp

[ system ]
Pure Water

[ molecules ]
;molecule name number
SOL  1936
SOL64

I appreciate your answers.

Lum

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Re: [gmx-users] Topology

2010-02-10 Thread Justin A. Lemkul



tekle...@ualberta.ca wrote:

Dear Justin,

First of all thank you for your help..

I have developed the toplogy file for my molecule using the PRODRG 
server. But the topology did not include properly the carboxylic acid 
functional group ( with proton) instead the software assumes both 
oxygens as identical due to resonance. Therefore I want to modify my 
topology .what do I need to do.




From the PRODRG FAQ:

Q: PRODRG doesn't properly protonate my molecule.
A: This can be fixed by adding the command

ADDHYD atomname

or

DELHYD atomname

to your input drawing/PDB file.

No need to hack the topology.  Run PRODRG once to identify which atom name it 
will assign to the oxygens, then follow the instructions above.


-Justin


In side my topology (initial)
===
44 CH1 1 UNK CA130.14313.0190
45 C   1 UNK C 130.37212.0110
46 OM 1  UNK OXT   13-0.757   15.9994
47 OM 1  UNK O 13-0.758   15.9994


MODIFIED to the following topology

44 CH1 1 UNK CA13   XXX 13.0190
45 C   1 UNK C 13   XXX 12.0110
46 O   1 UNK OXT   13   XXX 15.9994
47 OA  1 UNK O 13   XXX 15.9994
48 HO  1 UNK HAA   13   XXX 1.00800

===

XXX refers to a charge of each ..
How can I allocate a charge distribution for each united atom molecule 
in the modified topology ...


Remark

I checked the .RTP file and I have found the following information for the
[ ASPH] residue 

   CG C 0.53000 2
  OD1 O-0.38000 2
  OD2OA-0.54800 2
  HD2HO 0.39800 2

But in this case eventhough this describes for the carboxilic acid 
functional group . It does not include CH1 in the same group.. what 
do I need to do to


Example
  CA CH1   XXX 2
  CG C 0.53000 2
  OD1 O-0.38000 2
  OD2OA-0.54800 2
  HD2HO 0.39800 2

XX is the new charge for CH1 which I do not know. can you 
help. or simply I have to put 0.0


have a great day

Rob

***
The entire Topology is the following

;   nr  type  resnr resid  atom  cgnr   charge mass
 1   CH3 1  UNK CAZ 10.000  15.0350
 2   CH2 1  UNK CAK 10.000  14.0270
 3   CH2 1  UNK CBS 20.000  14.0270
 4   CH2 1  UNK CBL 20.000  14.0270
 5   CH2 1  UNK CBG 30.000  14.0270
 6   CH2 1  UNK CBM 30.000  14.0270
 7   CH1 1  UNK CBA 30.000  13.0190
 8   CH2 1  UNK CBD 30.000  14.0270
 9   CH2 1  UNK CBE 30.000  14.0270
10   CH2 1  UNK CBF 40.000  14.0270
11   CH2 1  UNK CBJ 40.000  14.0270
12   CH2 1  UNK CBN 50.101  14.0270
13   CH3 1  UNK CBT 50.057  15.0350
14  NR6* 1  UNK NBU 50.069  14.0067
15CB 1  UNK CBP 50.346  12.0110
16 O 1  UNK OCB 5   -0.573  15.9994
17CB 1  UNK CAG 60.351  12.0110
18 O 1  UNK OCA 6   -0.565  15.9994
19   CH1 1  UNK CBI 60.178  13.0190
20  CR61 1  UNK CBO 60.018  13.0190
21  CR61 1  UNK CAV 60.018  13.0190
22CB 1  UNK CAN 70.000  12.0110
23CB 1  UNK CAR 70.000  12.0110
24CB 1  UNK CAX 80.000  12.0110
25CB 1  UNK CBC 80.000  12.0110
26  CR61 1  UNK CBH 80.000  13.0190
27  CR61 1  UNK CAW 80.000  13.0190
28   CH1 1  UNK CAQ 90.074  13.0190
29CB 1  UNK CAM 90.001  12.0110
30  CR61 1  UNK CAU 9   -0.037  13.0190
31  CR61 1  UNK CAI 9   -0.038  13.0190
32CB 1  UNK CAC100.003  12.0110
33CB 1  UNK CAE100.442  12.0110
34 O 1  UNK OBX10   -0.448  15.9994
35CB 1  UNK CAB100.003  12.0110
36CB 1  UNK CAF110.004  12.0110
37CB 1  UNK CAJ110.004  12.0110
38  CR61 1  UNK CAP11   -0.008  13.0190
39  CR61 1  UNK CAH12   -0.013  13.0190
40CB 1  UNK CAA120.003  12.0110
41CB 1  UNK CAD120.411  12.0110
42 O 1  UNK OBW12   -0.483  15.9994
43  NR6* 1  UNK   N120.082  14.0067

44   CH1 

Re: [gmx-users] Topology file for phosphothreonine (TPO) for OPLS force field

2010-02-06 Thread Justin A. Lemkul



Antoine Delmotte wrote:


Thank you very much for your quick response, Justin. I guess I need a 
little bit more practise to make the parametrization myself. Do you have 
any clues on where I could find published parameters? Are there 
databases for this or something similar?




Literature searching is your best bet.  But as far as I know, there is no 
database of previously-published parameters.  Understanding the intrinsics of 
the force field (the original derivation and subsequent improvements) will be 
the most useful for you to understand the intrinsics of the force field.


If you're dead set on using OPLS, then you probably have (a lot) of work cut out 
for you.  Parameters for phosphorylated Ser, Thr, and Tyr for Gromos96 43a1 were 
published some time ago.


-Justin


Regards,

Antoine

Le 5/02/2010 18:23, Justin A. Lemkul a écrit :



Antoine Delmotte wrote:

Dear gmx-users,

I would like to simulate the CDK9 protein (3BLH in PDB), but there is 
one residue (TPO, phosphothreonine), which Gromacs does not recognise.


I found the PRODRG website as well as force field parameters for TPO 
for the Gromos96.1 force field. However, I would like to use the 
OPLS-AA force field. I therefore need a topology file for this force 
field, which cannot be provided by PRODRG (only useful for united 
atoms force fields).


Does anyone have an idea about where I could get the phosphothreonine 
itp file for OPLS force field?




Search the literature to see if anyone has published parameters for it.

Otherwise, could someone give me clues or the link to a good tutorial 
about how to create this itp file myself?




That's what Chapter 5 of the manual is for, provided you have reliable 
parameters (see below).


Molecular dynamics is something completely new for me so, sorry if I 
ask stupid questions. It also seems I am not the first one to have 
this problem but I could not find any solution on the archive of the 
mailing list.




If MD is completely new to you, and you are unable to find previously 
published and validated parameters, the parameterization of a new 
species is likely not a suitable task.  Parameterization is an expert 
topic, and it can take many months or years to develop reliable 
parameters, even if you know what you are doing at the very start.  Be 
forewarned:


http://www.gromacs.org/Documentation/How-tos/Parameterization

-Justin


I thank you in advance.

Best regards,

Antoine




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Re: [gmx-users] Topology file for phosphothreonine (TPO) for OPLS force field

2010-02-06 Thread Antoine Delmotte


Thank you very much for your quick response, Justin. I guess I need a 
little bit more practise to make the parametrization myself. Do you have 
any clues on where I could find published parameters? Are there 
databases for this or something similar?


Regards,

Antoine

Le 5/02/2010 18:23, Justin A. Lemkul a écrit :



Antoine Delmotte wrote:

Dear gmx-users,

I would like to simulate the CDK9 protein (3BLH in PDB), but there is 
one residue (TPO, phosphothreonine), which Gromacs does not recognise.


I found the PRODRG website as well as force field parameters for TPO 
for the Gromos96.1 force field. However, I would like to use the 
OPLS-AA force field. I therefore need a topology file for this force 
field, which cannot be provided by PRODRG (only useful for united 
atoms force fields).


Does anyone have an idea about where I could get the phosphothreonine 
itp file for OPLS force field?




Search the literature to see if anyone has published parameters for it.

Otherwise, could someone give me clues or the link to a good tutorial 
about how to create this itp file myself?




That's what Chapter 5 of the manual is for, provided you have reliable 
parameters (see below).


Molecular dynamics is something completely new for me so, sorry if I 
ask stupid questions. It also seems I am not the first one to have 
this problem but I could not find any solution on the archive of the 
mailing list.




If MD is completely new to you, and you are unable to find previously 
published and validated parameters, the parameterization of a new 
species is likely not a suitable task.  Parameterization is an expert 
topic, and it can take many months or years to develop reliable 
parameters, even if you know what you are doing at the very start.  Be 
forewarned:


http://www.gromacs.org/Documentation/How-tos/Parameterization

-Justin


I thank you in advance.

Best regards,

Antoine




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Re: [gmx-users] Topology file for phosphothreonine (TPO) for OPLS force field

2010-02-06 Thread Antoine Delmotte

Thank you very much for this, Bruce. It will help me, for sure.

Could you just let me know where you found the parameters or how you 
generated them?


Thanks in advance.

Regards,

Antoine

Le 5/02/2010 22:39, Bruce D. Ray a écrit :
On Fri, February 5, 2010 at 1:06:34 PM, Antoine Delmotte 
antoinedelmo...@hotmail.com

wrote:
 I would like to simulate the CDK9 protein (3BLH in PDB), but there 
is one residue (TPO,

 phosphothreonine), which Gromacs does not recognise.

 I found the PRODRG website as well as force field parameters for TPO 
for the Gromos96.1
 force field. However, I would like to use the OPLS-AA force field. I 
therefore need a topology
 file for this force field, which cannot be provided by PRODRG (only 
useful for united atoms

 force fields).

 Does anyone have an idea about where I could get the 
phosphothreonine itp file for OPLS

 force field?

 Otherwise, could someone give me clues or the link to a good 
tutorial about how to create

 this itp file myself?

 Molecular dynamics is something completely new for me so, sorry if I 
ask stupid questions.
 It also seems I am not the first one to have this problem but I 
could not find any solution on

 the archive of the mailing list.

The charges probably need a little more work, but this might be a 
start towards an

rtp file for phosphothreonine to add to ffoplsaa.rtp.

[ TPO ]
 [ atoms ]
 Nopls_238   -0.500 1
 Hopls_2410.300 1
CAopls_224B   0.140 1
HAopls_1400.060 1
CBopls_1580.205 2
HBopls_1400.060 2
   OG1opls_447   -0.700 2
 Popls_4451.795 3
   O1Popls_446   -1.120 3
   O2Popls_446   -1.120 3
   O3Popls_446   -1.120 3
   CG2opls_135   -0.180 4
  HG21opls_1400.060 4
  HG22opls_1400.060 4
  HG23opls_1400.060 4
 Copls_2350.500 5
 Oopls_236   -0.500 5
 [ bonds ]
 N H
 NCA
CAHA
CACB
CA C
CBHB
CB   OG1
CB   CG2
   OG1 P
   O1P P
   O2P P
   O3P P
   CG2  HG21
   CG2  HG22
   CG2  HG23
 C O
-C N
 [ dihedrals ] ; override some of the typebased dihedrals
 NCACB   OG1dih_SER_THR_chi1_N_C_C_O
 CCACB   OG1dih_SER_THR_chi1_CO_C_C_O
CACB   OG1   HG1dih_SER_THR_chi2_C_C_OH_HO
 [ impropers ]
-CCA N Himproper_Z_N_X_Y
CA+N C Oimproper_O_C_X_Y


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Re: [gmx-users] Topology file for phosphothreonine (TPO) for OPLS force field

2010-02-06 Thread Antoine Delmotte

Thank you very much Fairuz. I will try this.

Le 6/02/2010 1:20, fairuz zulkifli a écrit :

to create itp file with OPLS force feild, you can try use GAMESS.
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Re: [gmx-users] Topology file for phosphothreonine (TPO) for OPLS force field

2010-02-06 Thread Bruce D. Ray
On Sat, February 6, 2010 at 11:08:30 AM, Antoine Delmotte 
antoinedelmo...@hotmail.com
wrote:
 Thank you very much for this, Bruce. It will help me, for sure. 
 
 Could you just let me know where you found the parameters or how you
generated them?

Most of the parameters  came from the entry for threonine in  ffoplsaa.rtp
The remainder came from running the most recent beta test version of
topolbuild 1.3 with the command line

 /usr/local/bin/topolbuild -dir /usr/local/topolbuild -ff oplsaa -n tpo_pep 
-charge
 

which generates an OPLSaa topology with parameters found originally
in the Gromacs OPLSaa installation against a short peptide containing
phosphothreonine and sets the atom charges to the OPLSaa atom type
charges.  I then edited the threonine entry from ffoplsaa.rtp according
to add in the phosphate atom types, and change those atom types that are
altered by the presence of the phosphate.  Finally, I adjusted the charge
on the phosphorous from the charge given in ffoplsaanb.itp in order to
have the total charge come out as -2 for a fully ionized phosphate.
The exact ionization would depend on pH, of course, and I would have
to run the command for protonated TPO (TPH ? or TPH2 ? for the mono-
and di-protonated species?) to further correct atom types and charges.


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Re: [gmx-users] Topology file for phosphothreonine (TPO) for OPLS force field

2010-02-05 Thread Justin A. Lemkul



Antoine Delmotte wrote:

Dear gmx-users,

I would like to simulate the CDK9 protein (3BLH in PDB), but there is 
one residue (TPO, phosphothreonine), which Gromacs does not recognise.


I found the PRODRG website as well as force field parameters for TPO for 
the Gromos96.1 force field. However, I would like to use the OPLS-AA 
force field. I therefore need a topology file for this force field, 
which cannot be provided by PRODRG (only useful for united atoms force 
fields).


Does anyone have an idea about where I could get the phosphothreonine 
itp file for OPLS force field?




Search the literature to see if anyone has published parameters for it.

Otherwise, could someone give me clues or the link to a good tutorial 
about how to create this itp file myself?




That's what Chapter 5 of the manual is for, provided you have reliable 
parameters (see below).


Molecular dynamics is something completely new for me so, sorry if I ask 
stupid questions. It also seems I am not the first one to have this 
problem but I could not find any solution on the archive of the mailing 
list.




If MD is completely new to you, and you are unable to find previously published 
and validated parameters, the parameterization of a new species is likely not a 
suitable task.  Parameterization is an expert topic, and it can take many months 
or years to develop reliable parameters, even if you know what you are doing at 
the very start.  Be forewarned:


http://www.gromacs.org/Documentation/How-tos/Parameterization

-Justin


I thank you in advance.

Best regards,

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Re: [gmx-users] Topology file for phosphothreonine (TPO) for OPLS force field

2010-02-05 Thread Bruce D. Ray
On Fri, February 5, 2010 at 1:06:34 PM, Antoine Delmotte 
antoinedelmo...@hotmail.com
wrote:

 I would like to simulate the CDK9 protein (3BLH in PDB), but there is
one residue (TPO,
 phosphothreonine), which Gromacs does not recognise.
 
 I
found the PRODRG website as well as force field parameters for TPO for
the Gromos96.1
 force field. However, I would like to use the OPLS-AA
force field. I therefore need a topology
 file for this force field,
which cannot be provided by PRODRG (only useful for united atoms
 force
fields).
 
 Does anyone have an idea about where I could get the phosphothreonine itp 
 file for OPLS
 force field?
 
 Otherwise, could someone give me clues or the link to a good tutorial about 
 how to create
 this itp file myself? 
 
 Molecular
dynamics is something completely new for me so, sorry if I ask stupid
questions.
 It also seems I am not the first one to have this problem
but I could not find any solution on
 the archive of the mailing list.

The charges probably need a little more work, but this might be a start towards 
an
rtp file for phosphothreonine to add to ffoplsaa.rtp.

[ TPO ]
 [ atoms ]
 Nopls_238   -0.500 1
 Hopls_2410.300 1
CAopls_224B   0.140 1
HAopls_1400.060 1
CBopls_1580.205 2
HBopls_1400.060 2
   OG1opls_447   -0.700 2
 Popls_4451.795 3
   O1Popls_446   -1.120 3
   O2Popls_446   -1.120 3
   O3Popls_446   -1.120 3
   CG2opls_135   -0.180 4
  HG21opls_1400.060 4
  HG22opls_1400.060 4
  HG23opls_1400.060 4
 Copls_2350.500 5
 Oopls_236   -0.500 5
 [ bonds ]
 N H
 NCA
CAHA
CACB
CA C
CBHB
CB   OG1
CB   CG2
   OG1 P
   O1P P
   O2P P
   O3P P
   CG2  HG21
   CG2  HG22
   CG2  HG23
 C O
-C N
 [ dihedrals ] ; override some of the typebased dihedrals
 NCACB   OG1dih_SER_THR_chi1_N_C_C_O
 CCACB   OG1dih_SER_THR_chi1_CO_C_C_O
CACB   OG1   HG1dih_SER_THR_chi2_C_C_OH_HO
 [ impropers ]
-CCA N Himproper_Z_N_X_Y 
CA+N C Oimproper_O_C_X_Y 


I hope that helps.


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Re: [gmx-users] topology and rtp file

2009-12-03 Thread Justin A. Lemkul



irene farabella wrote:

Hello Gmx Usrs,

I am new to Gromacs. I am trying to simulate a protein-membrane
complex using  berger-oplsaa combination . I have created a topology


Have you properly modified the Berger parameters for use with OPLS-AA? 
Otherwise, the results you will get will be nonsense :)



file for the protein using pdb2gmx in order to then build up the
topology for my system using the include file mechanism.
After that I tried to use my system.top in grompp ( grompp -f xx.mdp
-c system.pdb -p system.top -o out.tpr ) but I get a warning about
atoms in top and pdb does not match. I went trough the mailing list


Is system.pdb the cleaned up output from pdb2gmx?

It is also better to post the actual error message.  The topology and coordinate 
file may not match in terms of atom names or in terms of the number of 
coordinates, which are both very different problems.  I guess you are referring 
to a naming mismatch?



but I have still doubt. I checked where were the differences. It seems
that the order of the aromatic ring in the pdb and in the top didn't
match.

To be clear (tyr as example but the same problem occur with his):

.pdb  .top
 N N
 HNH


If this is what's in your .pdb file, then you aren't using the pdb2gmx output, 
are you?



 CA   CA
 HA   HA
 CB   CB
 HB1 HB1
 HB2 HB2
 CG   CG
 CD1 CD1
 HD1 HD1
 CE1 CD2
 HE1 HD2
 CZ  CE1
 OH  HE1
 HH  CE2
 CD2 HE2
 HD2  CZ
 CE2  OH
 HE2  HH
 CC
 O   O

Is this because the .top seems follow the order presents in the rtp
file that I have (am I right?).


Yes, pdb2gmx will output according to the .rtp entry.


Assuming that this is the case I am wondering if changing the atoms
order in the rtp from:

[ TYR ]
 [ atoms ]
Nopls_238   -0.500 1
Hopls_2410.300 1
   CAopls_224B   0.140 1
   HAopls_1400.060 1
   CBopls_149   -0.005 2
  HB1opls_1400.060 2
  HB2opls_1400.060 2
   CGopls_145   -0.115 3
  CD1opls_145   -0.115 4
  HD1opls_1460.115 4
  CD2opls_145   -0.115 5
  HD2opls_1460.115 5
  CE1opls_145   -0.115 6
  HE1opls_1460.115 6
  CE2opls_145   -0.115 7
  HE2opls_1460.115 7
   CZopls_1660.150 8
   OHopls_167   -0.585 8
   HHopls_1680.435 8
Copls_2350.500 9
Oopls_236   -0.500 9

to:

[ TYR ]
 [ atoms ]
   Nopls_238   -0.500 1
   Hopls_2410.300 1
  CAopls_224B   0.140 1
  HAopls_1400.060 1
  CBopls_149   -0.005 2
 HB1opls_1400.060 2
 HB2opls_1400.060 2
  CGopls_145   -0.115 3
 CD1opls_145   -0.115 4
 HD1opls_1460.115 4
 CE1opls_145   -0.115 6
 HE1opls_1460.115 6
  CZopls_1660.150 8
  OHopls_167   -0.585 8
  HHopls_1680.435 8
 CE2opls_145   -0.115 7
 HE2opls_1460.115 7
 CD2opls_145   -0.115 5
 HD2opls_1460.115 5
   Copls_2350.500 9
   Oopls_236   -0.500 9

can that have a further effect since it seems that the file handling
is based on line position and not atoms name.



If you re-arrange the .rtp file, you'll have to start all over again, since only 
 pdb2gmx uses the .rtp files.  I doubt this is meaningful.  If you've got a 
.pdb file with HN as the amide proton, then it won't match the topology, which 
specifies this atom as H.  There will still be a name mismatch, but not an order 
mismatch, which simply indicates to me that you are using the wrong coordinate file.


-Justin

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Re: [gmx-users] topology file in .dat format

2009-11-09 Thread Tsjerk Wassenaar
Hi Subarna,

There is no .dat format for topologies. It may be named .dat, but the
inside (format) is what matters. If you're confident it is gromos96
format, you can #include it the same way as other molecule definition
topology files. Do mind that there's quite a difference between
GROMOS96 43a1, 43a2, 45a3, 53a5 and 53a6...

Cheers,

Tsjerk

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thakur.suba...@yahoo.co.in wrote:
 Hello
 I have a gromos96 topology file for a ligand and it is in xx.dat format.How
 do I include this file in my gromacs version 4.0 simulation of a protein?

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Re: [gmx-users] topology file

2009-08-24 Thread Justin A. Lemkul



abhijit kayal wrote:

Hi,
Myself Abhijit Kayal,student at IITD.Is it possible to create a 
topology file by Amber or some other molecular dynamics software for 
nonstandard molecules such as n-butane and can these topology files be 
used in gromacs?please reply.
 


Yes.  There are scripts in the User Contributions section of the website that 
will do exactly that.


-Justin


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Re: [gmx-users] topology info for specific bond between atoms in different molecules

2009-08-04 Thread Mark Abraham
ucsd mail wrote:
 Hi There,
 
 I am a new user of Gromacs and want to work on carbon nanotubes. 
 I want to simulation carbon nanotube(cnt) bonded with polymers in water. And 
 it will be much better to consider cnt and the bonded polymer as separate 
 molecules, instead of one molecule.  I can create the .itp file for both the 
 nanotube and the polymer chain, and include them in the .top file. But I do 
 not know how to describe the bond betwen the cnt and the polymer. 

You cannot have a bonded interaction between atoms that belong to
different [ moleculetype ] directives. So you will need to make a hybrid
of the nanotube and the polymer. Depending on what sense you think it
will be better to have them as separate molecules, you may wish to
define index groups with make_ndx for whatever use you have in mind.

Mark

 Currently my .top file looks like this: (Thanks a lot!)
 ***
 [ defaults ]
 ; nbfunccomb-rulegen-pairs  fudgeLJ   fudgeQQ
11 
 
 [ atomtypes ]
 ; type mass   charge ptype  c6 c12
  C 12.0  0.0   A0.00.0
  X1.0e10 0.0   A0.00.0
 OW15.994-0.82  A0.00.0
  H 1.008 0.41  A0.00.0
  ...more info
 
 [ nonbond_params ]
 ; aiaj   funct   aij bij
   C C  12.8768001E-34.691598E-6 
  OWOW  12.6169064E-32.633236E-6
   COW  11.3176287E-31.388472E-6
   ...more info
 
 [ bondtypes ]
 ; i   j  func  b0  kb  beta
   C   C 3  0.1418  478.9  21.867 
   ...more info
 
 [ angletypes ]
 ;i  j  k  func  th0  cth
  C  C  C 2   120.0  562.2
  ...more info
 
 [ dihedraltypes ]
 ; i jfunc   phi0   cp   mult
   C C 1 180.012.562
   ...more info
 
 #include cnt_test.itp
 #include FLEXSPC.itp
 #include polymer.itp
 
 [ system ]
 CNT_H2O
 
 [ molecules ]
 CNT   1
 SOL   1419
 POL   2
 *
 
 I read the manual and found an example that include bonds in topology file 
 like below. The atom IDs are specified instead of atom type. Can I do this 
 for atom (ID) in different molecules? Thanks.
 *
 [ bonds ]
 ; ai aj funct b0 kb
 3 4 1 1.00e-01 3.744680e+05
 3 5 1 1.00e-01 3.744680e+05
 6 7 1 1.00e-01 3.744680e+05
 6 8 1 1.00e-01 3.744680e+05
 1 2 1 1.23e-01 5.020800e+05
 1 3 1 1.33e-01 3.765600e+05
 1 6 1 1.33e-01 3.765600e+05
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Re: [gmx-users] topology and residue database?

2009-07-15 Thread Justin A. Lemkul



Joseph Johnson wrote:
Is there still a topology and peptide residue on the Gromacs website?  
It's mentioned in the documentation but I can't seem to find it.




The user contributions?  You can still access all of the old site's content by 
appending old to the URL (i.e., http://oldwww.gromacs.org), and the 
user-contributed topologies and stuff are at:


http://oldwww.gromacs.org/component/option,com_docman/task,cat_view/gid,39/Itemid,26/

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Re: [gmx-users] topology of HEO compound in .rtp for G96 ff

2009-05-21 Thread Justin A. Lemkul



Egidijus Kuprusevicius wrote:

Hello, could anyone help me and check if the topology of the HEO compound was 
done properly for G96 ff? Thanks in advance. I couldn't find it in the 
database, so I decided to try to make it manualy. Any comments would be 
appreciated. Or maybe does exists any programs who does the work?



It would help to know what HEO is, and which version of Gromos96 you are 
attempting to use.  If this is some sort of HEME derivative, as it appears, you 
can probably verify much of the topology, since HEME exists in the .rtp file for 
all the Gromos96 variants.


It is not possible to simply look at a topology and verify if it is correct. 
Parameterization requires you to verify some sort of experimental observable to 
justify the parameters you have assigned.


-Justin



[ HEO ]
 [ atoms ]
   FEFE 0.4 0
   NANR-0.1 0
   NBNR-0.1 0
   NCNR-0.1 0
   NDNR-0.1 0
  CHA   CH1 0.0 1
  C1A C 0.0 2
  C2A C 0.0 2
  C3A C 0.0 2
  C4A C 0.0 2
  CMA   CH3 0.0 3
  CAA   CH2 0.0 4
  CBA   CH2 0.0 4
  CGA C 0.27000 5
  O1AOM-0.63500 5
  O2AOM-0.63500 5
  CHB   CH1 0.0 6
  C1B C 0.0 7
  C2B C 0.0 7
  C3B C 0.0 7
  C4B C 0.0 7
  CMB   CH3 0.0 8
  C11 C 0.38000 9 
  O11 O-0.38000 9

  CHC   CH1 0.010
  C1C C 0.011
  C2C C 0.011
  C3C C 0.011
  C4C C 0.011
  CMC   CH3 0.012
  CAC   CR1 0.013
  CBC   CH2 0.013
  CHD   CH1 0.014
  C1D C 0.015
  C2D C 0.015
  C3D C 0.015
  C4D C 0.015
  CMD   CH3 0.016
  CAD   CH2 0.017
  CBD   CH2 0.017
  CGD C 0.2700018
  O1DOM-0.6350018
  O2DOM-0.6350018
  C12   CH2 0.019 
  C13   CH2 0.019

  C14   CH2 0.020
  C15   CH1 0.020
  C16   CH3 0.020
  C17   CH2 0.020
  C18   CH2 0.021
  C19   CH2 0.022
  C20   CH1 0.022
  C21   CH3 0.022
  C22   CH2 0.022
  C23   CH2 0.023
  C24   CH2 0.024
  C25   CH1 0.024
  C26   CH3 0.024
  C27   CH3 0.024
 [ bonds ]
   FENAgb_34   
   FENBgb_34   
   FENCgb_34   
   FENDgb_34   
   NA   C1Agb_13   
   NA   C4Agb_13   
   NB   C1Bgb_13   
   NB   C4Bgb_13   
   NC   C1Cgb_13   
   NC   C4Cgb_13   
   ND   C1Dgb_13   
   ND   C4Dgb_13   
  CHA   C1Agb_16   
  CHA   C4Dgb_16   
  C1A   C2Agb_16   
  C2A   C3Agb_16   
  C2A   CAAgb_26   
  C3A   C4Agb_16   
  C3A   CMAgb_26   
  C4A   CHBgb_16   
  CAA   CBAgb_26   
  CBA   CGAgb_26   
  CGA   O1Agb_5
  CGA   O2Agb_5
  CHB   C1Bgb_16   
  C1B   C2Bgb_16   
  C2B   C3Bgb_16   
  C2B   CMBgb_26   
  C3B   C4Bgb_16   
  C4B   CHCgb_16  
  CHC   C1Cgb_16   
  C1C   C2Cgb_16   
  C2C   C3Cgb_16   
  C2C   CMCgb_26   
  C3C   C4Cgb_16   
  C3C   CACgb_26   
  C4C   CHDgb_16   
  CAC   CBCgb_11   
  CHD   C1Dgb_16   
  C1D   C2Dgb_16   
  C2D   C3Dgb_16   
  C2D   CMDgb_26   
  C3D   C4Dgb_16   
  C3D   CADgb_26   
  CAD   CBDgb_26   
  CBD   CGDgb_26   
  CGD   O1Dgb_5
  CGD   O2Dgb_5  
  C3B   C11gb_26   
  C11   O11gb_4  
  C11   C12gb_26 ; C, CHn  -   C, CHn800

  C12   C13gb_26 ; C, CHn  -   C, CHn800
  C13   C14gb_26 ; C, CHn  -   C, CHn800
  C14   C15gb_26 ; C, CHn  -   C, CHn800
  C15   C16gb_26 ; C, CHn  -   C, CHn800
  C15   C17gb_26 ; C, CHn  -   C, CHn800
  C17   C18gb_26 ; C, CHn  -   C, CHn800
  C18   C19gb_26 ; C, CHn  -   C, CHn800
  C19   C20gb_26 ; C, CHn  -   C, CHn800
  C20   C21gb_26 ; C, CHn  -   C, CHn800
  C20   C22gb_26 ; C, CHn  -   C, CHn800
  C22   C23gb_26 ; C, CHn  -   C, CHn800
  C23   C24gb_26 ; C, CHn  -   C, CHn800
  C24   C25gb_26 ; C, CHn  -   C, CHn800
  C25   C26gb_26 ; C, CHn  -   C, CHn800
  C25   C27gb_26 ; C, CHn  -   C, CHn800   
 [ exclusions ]

;  aiaj
   FE   CHA
   FE   C2A
   FE   C3A
   FE   CHB
   FE   C2B
   FE   C3B
   FE   CHC
   FE   C2C
   FE   C3C
   FE   CHD
   FE   C2D
   FE   C3D
   NA   CMA
   NA   CAA
   NA   C1B
   NA   C4B
   NA   C1C
   NA   C4C
   NA   C1D
   NA   C4D
   NB   C1A
   NB   C4A
   NB   CMB
   NB   C11 
   NB   C1C

   NB   C4C
   NB   C1D
   NB   C4D
   NC   C1A
   NC   

Re: [gmx-users] topology file with grompp program

2009-05-15 Thread Justin A. Lemkul



วันเวลา อมรนพ wrote:

Dear gmx users
 
I want to simulate propane molecule and I use PRODGE website to generate 
both .gro and .top file.

Then I run the grompp program and there is an error said that
 
Fatal error:

Invalid order for directive moleculetype, file topol.top, line 17
and below is my topology file of a propane molecule
 


You must #include the appropriate force field file before you can define your 
molecule type.


A few notes and suggestions:

1. If using the original PRODRG server, consider using the newer PRODRG 2.5 
server.  The original PRODRG gives ffgmx-compatible topologies.  This force 
field is deprecated.  PRODRG 2.5 is compatible with the newer Gromos96 variants.


2. Check the charges and charge groups carefully, and consider changing them. 
Does it make sense to have permanent dipoles in a propane molecule?


-Justin

;  
;  
;   This file was generated by PRODRG version 071121.0636

;   PRODRG written/copyrighted by Daan van Aalten
;   and Alexander Schuettelkopf
;  
;   Questions/comments to d...@davapc1.bioch.dundee.ac.uk 
mailto:d...@davapc1.bioch.dundee.ac.uk
;  
;   When using this software in a publication, cite:

;   A. W. Schuettelkopf and D. M. F. van Aalten (2004).
;   PRODRG - a tool for high-throughput crystallography
;   of protein-ligand complexes.
;   Acta Crystallogr. D60, 1355--1363.
;  
;  
[ moleculetype ]

; name nrexcl
DRG  3
[ atoms ]
;   nr  type  resnr resid  atom  cgnr   charge mass
 1   CH3 1  DRG CAA 1   -0.007  15.0350  
 2   CH2 1  DRG CAB 10.015  14.0270  
 3   CH3 1  DRG CAC 1   -0.008  15.0350  
[ bonds ]

; ai  aj  fuc0, c1, ...
   1   2   10.153334720.00.153334720.0 ;   CAA  CAB  
   2   3   10.153334720.00.153334720.0 ;   CAB  CAC  
[ pairs ]

; ai  aj  fuc0, c1, ...
[ angles ]
; ai  aj  ak  fuc0, c1, ...
   1   2   3   1111.0   460.2111.0   460.2 ;   CAA  CAB  
CAC  
[ dihedrals ]

; ai  aj  ak  al  fuc0, c1, m, ...
 
Please help me figure out what is the error
 
Thanks for advance
 
Suwit





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Re: [gmx-users] topology for oxygen molecule

2009-04-23 Thread Justin A. Lemkul



Sunil Thapa wrote:

Respectable Justin/Mark
For the study of diffusion of oxygen in water, I tried to search the itp 
file for oxygen molecule but could not find. Therefore, I have tried to 
make it myself.
 
Please tell me whether it is fine.
 
[ moleculetype ]

; molname nrexcl
OMOL 1 ; as there are two atoms in an oxygen molecule
 
[ atoms ]

; nr type resnr residue atom cgnr charge mass
1 OB 1 OMOL OB1 0 0
2 OB 1 OMOL OB2 0 0
 


What about mass?


[ bonds ]
;ai aj funct c0 c1
1 2 1 1.24400e-01 3.472866e+05; taken from Gaussian calculation.
 


You could also get this information from spectroscopic data, I believe.  That 
might make for an even more realistic model.


[ pairtypes ] ; for non bonded interaction within each molecule with 
exclusion

; i j func c6 c12
OB OB 1 0.008261659 1.7392E-05;parameters from CRC Hand book of physics 
and chemistry.
 


You don't need this.  You are excluding nonbonded interactions between the two 
OB atoms (nrexcl = 1), so there shouldn't be a pairwise interaction between them.



;[ pairs ] no need of 1-4 interaction pairs as there are only two atoms.
; ai aj funct c6 c12
; 1 2 1 0.008261659 1.7392E-05;from CRC0
 
[ nonbond_params ]

; OB OW 1 0.004679059 6.853E-06; using L-B rule
; OB H 1 0 0; taken from OW-H
 
 
[ exclusions ]

1 2 ; because the nrexc1 is 1.
 


Unnecessary.  Again, you set nrexcl = 1, so this is taken care of.

Have you defined the appropriate [atomtype] somewhere, like the ff*nb.itp that 
you're using?


-Justin


Please tell me where I am wrong.
for nonbonded interaction





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Re: [gmx-users] topology

2008-11-09 Thread Mark Abraham

naimah haron naimah wrote:

Dear all...
 
How to draw the structure for ionic liquid and get their PDB file? For 
example, we can draw the struture by using PRODRG generation server and 
get their PDB file. So, any suggestion to draw the structure and get 
their PDB file without using PRODRG generation server?


Build a small one by hand in a text editor (making sure the density is 
suitable and there won't be steric clashes across periodic boundaries), 
replicate it with genbox, and equilibrate.


Mark
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Re: [gmx-users] topology file for methane.

2008-10-27 Thread Justin A. Lemkul



xianghong qi wrote:

Hello,

Could anyone give me some suggestions about how to write a toplogy file 
for methane with OPLS-AA force field?

Thanks in advance.



For a very simple molecule like methane, it should be very straightforward to do 
from reading Chapter 5.


-Justin


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Re: [gmx-users] topology file for methane.

2008-10-27 Thread xianghong qi
Hi, Justin:
I am reading chapter 5 now. Still feel confused. I wrote methane.top file
like this:

; Methane topology file
;
; The force field files to be included
#include ffoplsaa.itp

[ moleculetype ]
; Namenrexcl
 METH 3

[ atoms ]
;   nr   type  resnr residue  atom   cgnr charge   mass
typeBchargeB  massB
 1   opls_138  1METH C  1  -0.24 12.011   ; qtot
0.61
 2   opls_140  1METH H  1   0.06  1.008   ; qtot
0.67
 3   opls_140  1METH H  1   0.06  1.008   ; qtot
0.67
 4   opls_140  1METH H  1   0.06  1.008   ; qtot
0.73
 5   opls_140  1METH H  1   0.06  1.008   ; qtot
0.79

[ bonds ]
;  aiaj functc0c1c2c3
1 2 1
1 3 1
1 4 1
1 5 1

; Include Position restraint file
#ifdef POSRES
#include posre.itp
#endif

; Include water topology
#include spc.itp

[ system ]
; Name
Methane

[ molecules ]
; Compound#mols
METH 1
; ;;;

Then I should go to ffoplsaa.rtp file to add a new molecule like :

[METH]
 [ atoms ]
 Copls_135   -0.240 1
   HC1opls_1400.060 1
   HC2opls_1400.060 1
   HC3opls_1400.060 1
   HC4opls_1400.60  1
 [ bonds ]
 C  HC1
 C  HC2
 C  HC3
 C  HC4
;;;

Is that reasonable?  Thanks for your help.


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 xianghong qi wrote:

 Hello,

 Could anyone give me some suggestions about how to write a toplogy file
 for methane with OPLS-AA force field?
 Thanks in advance.


 For a very simple molecule like methane, it should be very straightforward
 to do from reading Chapter 5.

 -Justin

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Re: [gmx-users] topology file for methane.

2008-10-27 Thread Justin A. Lemkul



xianghong qi wrote:

Hi, Justin:
I am reading chapter 5 now. Still feel confused. I wrote methane.top 
file like this:


; Methane topology file
;
; The force field files to be included
#include ffoplsaa.itp

[ moleculetype ]
; Namenrexcl
 METH 3

[ atoms ]
;   nr   type  resnr residue  atom   cgnr charge   mass  
typeBchargeB  massB
 1   opls_138  1METH C  1  -0.24 12.011   ; 
qtot 0.61
 2   opls_140  1METH H  1   0.06  1.008   ; 
qtot 0.67
 3   opls_140  1METH H  1   0.06  1.008   ; 
qtot 0.67
 4   opls_140  1METH H  1   0.06  1.008   ; 
qtot 0.73
 5   opls_140  1METH H  1   0.06  1.008   ; 
qtot 0.79


[ bonds ]
;  aiaj functc0c1c2c3
1 2 1
1 3 1
1 4 1
1 5 1

; Include Position restraint file
#ifdef POSRES
#include posre.itp
#endif

; Include water topology
#include spc.itp

[ system ]
; Name
Methane

[ molecules ]
; Compound#mols
METH 1
; ;;;

Then I should go to ffoplsaa.rtp file to add a new molecule like :

[METH]
 [ atoms ]
 Copls_135   -0.240 1
   HC1opls_1400.060 1
   HC2opls_1400.060 1
   HC3opls_1400.060 1
   HC4opls_1400.60  1
 [ bonds ]
 C  HC1
 C  HC2
 C  HC3
 C  HC4
;;;

Is that reasonable?  Thanks for your help.




Seems fine to me.

-Justin

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xianghong qi wrote:

Hello,

Could anyone give me some suggestions about how to write a
toplogy file for methane with OPLS-AA force field?
Thanks in advance.


For a very simple molecule like methane, it should be very
straightforward to do from reading Chapter 5.

-Justin

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Re: [gmx-users] topology of cyclohexane

2008-09-18 Thread Jochen Hub
I once built one from the standart opls-atoms. It is ENTIRELY UNTESTED!
I have absolutely no clue how good it is. In particular the partial
charges on the H and C may have to be improved.

best, Jochen


Here is also a pdb:

TITLE One Cyclohexane
REMARKTHIS IS A SIMULATION BOX
CRYST1   30.000   30.000   30.000  90.00  90.00  90.00 P 1   1
MODEL1
ATOM  1  CA  CYC 1  26.075  25.752   1.621  1.00  0.00
ATOM  2  HA1 CYC 1  26.881  25.711   0.887  1.00  0.00
ATOM  3  HA2 CYC 1  25.289  25.092   1.251  1.00  0.00
ATOM  4  CB  CYC 1  25.534  27.188   1.727  1.00  0.00
ATOM  5  HB1 CYC 1  25.141  27.510   0.762  1.00  0.00
ATOM  6  HB2 CYC 1  26.351  27.869   1.969  1.00  0.00
ATOM  7  CC  CYC 1  24.440  27.294   2.801  1.00  0.00
ATOM  8  HC1 CYC 1  23.568  26.715   2.493  1.00  0.00
ATOM  9  HC2 CYC 1  24.106  28.329   2.891  1.00  0.00
ATOM 10  CD  CYC 1  24.941  26.784   4.162  1.00  0.00
ATOM 11  HD1 CYC 1  24.135  26.825   4.896  1.00  0.00
ATOM 12  HD2 CYC 1  25.727  27.444   4.533  1.00  0.00
ATOM 13  CE  CYC 1  25.482  25.349   4.056  1.00  0.00
ATOM 14  HE1 CYC 1  24.665  24.668   3.814  1.00  0.00
ATOM 15  HE2 CYC 1  25.875  25.027   5.021  1.00  0.00
ATOM 16  CF  CYC 1  26.577  25.242   2.982  1.00  0.00
ATOM 17  HF1 CYC 1  27.448  25.821   3.290  1.00  0.00
ATOM 18  HF2 CYC 1  26.911  24.208   2.892  1.00  0.00
TER
ENDMDL

Here is the hdb entry. Add it to ffoplsaa.hdb:

CYC 6
24 HA CA CB CF
24 HB CB CA CC
24 HC CC CB CD
24 HD CD CC CE
24 HE CE CD CF
24 HF CF CE CA


Here is the rtp entry. Add it to ffoplsaa.rtp and run pdb2gmx.

; cyclohexane
[ CYC ]
 [ atoms ]
  CA   opls_136 -0.120  1
  HA1  opls_140  0.060  1
  HA2  opls_140  0.060  1
  CB   opls_136 -0.120  2
  HB1  opls_140  0.060  2
  HB2  opls_140  0.060  2
  CC   opls_136 -0.120  3
  HC1  opls_140  0.060  3
  HC2  opls_140  0.060  3
  CD   opls_136 -0.120  4
  HD1  opls_140  0.060  4
  HD2  opls_140  0.060  4
  CE   opls_136 -0.120  5
  HE1  opls_140  0.060  5
  HE2  opls_140  0.060  5
  CF   opls_136 -0.120  6
  HF1  opls_140  0.060  6
  HF2  opls_140  0.060  6
 [ bonds ]
  CA HA1
  CA HA2
  CA CF
  CA CB
  CB HB1
  CB HB2
  CB CC
  CC HC1
  CC HC2
  CC CD
  CD HD1
  CD HD2
  CD CE
  CE HE1
  CE HE2
  CE CF
  CF HF1
  CF HF2



Vitaly Chaban wrote:
 Guys,
 
 Does anybody have an already prepared topology of cyclohexane?
 
 Thanks.
 


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Re: [gmx-users] topology using prodrg

2008-07-04 Thread Diego Nolasco
Are you sure you used prodrg beta?

http://davapc1.bioch.dundee.ac.uk/cgi-bin/prodrg_beta


2008/7/4, h a [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 Dear users,

 I am modeling polymer surface. I need topology for polystyrene. I used
 prodrg earlier version and beta version but in both cases I get topology
 for only GROMOS87 force field. Can not I get topology for force filed

 GROMOS96 ?

 also can anybody let me know what is .itp file for GOMOS87 force filed ( I
 mean similar to GROMOS96 - ffG43a1.itp )

 thank you,

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Re: [gmx-users] topology for c-alpha protein model

2008-06-20 Thread Diego Nolasco
After pdb2gmx of the whole structure, make an index file and them run
another pdb2gmx choosing the c-alpha group. I hope it helps.

2008/6/20, Lillian Chong [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

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 I would like to generate a topology for a protein in which each
 residue is represented only by its C-alpha atom (a Go-type model).
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Re: [gmx-users] topology treatment in free energy calculations -possible bug

2008-01-07 Thread Maik Goette

Berk

Thanks for the clarification.

I was aware of A-values copied to B-values, when no B-values in the FF 
exist, but actually this was new to me.


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Berk Hess wrote:

This behavior is itentional.
But it can indeed be confusing.
Therefore in Gromacs 4.0 a warning will be generated (and I have added
a table in the manual that explains all the possible combinations).

If you explicitly define parameters for the A-state, I don't see why
you would want the B-parameters to be looked up based on atom-type.
You would only want that when the A-state parameters are also determined
by the atom type.

Berk.



From: Maik Goette [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Subject: [gmx-users] topology treatment in free energy calculations 
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Date: Fri, 04 Jan 2008 15:15:57 +0100

Hi

I just found a strange behaviour of GROMACS, when processing 
topologies with B-values. Maybe I just think of it as unintuitive/bug, 
but here we go:


e.g. OPLS

Consider an angle given (all atoms have B-values, which 
angle-parameter can be found by GROMACS in the bonded.itp for the A- 
and B-state):


Original topology entry:
101214 1

Manually edited entry (with the correct ff-term):
101214 1 109.700 669.440

Now, a dump from the tpr-files yields the following:
Original:
functype[109]=ANGLES, thA= 1.09700e+02, ctA= 6.69440e+02, thB= 
1.09500e+02, ctB= 2.92880e+02


Edited:
functype[109]=ANGLES, thA= 1.09700e+02, ctA= 6.69440e+02, thB= 
1.09700e+02, ctB= 6.69440e+02


Now, what obviously happens is, that GROMACS searches the entries of 
the angle in the FF for both states and uses them in the case of the 
original topology.
If one puts a manual entry into the topology for the A-state though, 
the B-state is simply copied, instead of searched by GROMACS.


This, IMHO, is quite inconvenient. Is this a bug or a feature?

Regards

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37077 Goettingen
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Re: [gmx-users] topology treatment in free energy calculations - possible bug

2008-01-04 Thread bharat v. adkar


On Fri, 4 Jan 2008, Maik Goette wrote:


Hi

I just found a strange behaviour of GROMACS, when processing topologies with 
B-values. Maybe I just think of it as unintuitive/bug, but here we go:


e.g. OPLS

Consider an angle given (all atoms have B-values, which angle-parameter can 
be found by GROMACS in the bonded.itp for the A- and B-state):


Original topology entry:
101214 1

Manually edited entry (with the correct ff-term):
101214 1 109.700 669.440

Now, a dump from the tpr-files yields the following:
Original:
functype[109]=ANGLES, thA= 1.09700e+02, ctA= 6.69440e+02, thB= 1.09500e+02, 
ctB= 2.92880e+02


Edited:
functype[109]=ANGLES, thA= 1.09700e+02, ctA= 6.69440e+02, thB= 1.09700e+02, 
ctB= 6.69440e+02


Now, what obviously happens is, that GROMACS searches the entries of the 
angle in the FF for both states and uses them in the case of the original 
topology.
If one puts a manual entry into the topology for the A-state though, the 
B-state is simply copied, instead of searched by GROMACS.


This, IMHO, is quite inconvenient. Is this a bug or a feature?


it cannot be called as a bug... when you mention parameters for A state 
in topology explicitly then grompp will expect you to mention the B state 
parameters also, and if it doesn't find it, it will assign A state 
parameter to B state. that is quite well documented, i think, in manual. 
So there is no reason to think it as a bug.


bharat



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Re: [gmx-users] topology treatment in free energy calculations - possible bug_2nd

2008-01-04 Thread David Mobley
Maik,

 It just came to my mind, that the behaviour, I described in the first
 mail will be quite dangerous, whenever #define statements are in the
 topology, cause this would lead to the insertion of the FF-values in the
 topology, when preprocessing, and then be copied into the B-state
 afterwards, even if the values are crap for the B-state...

As far as treatment of A and B state parameters, I am not sure there
is any solution that doesn't result in dangerous behavior in some
situations. Therefore my recommendation is that anytime one is
handling atoms which are being perturbed (i.e., where the B state
*might* be different from the A state) both A and B state parameters
be specified explicitly in the topology by the user.

David


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Re: [gmx-users] topology treatment in free energy calculations - possible bug

2008-01-04 Thread David Mobley
Maik

 I just found a strange behaviour of GROMACS, when processing topologies
 with B-values. Maybe I just think of it as unintuitive/bug, but here we go:

 e.g. OPLS

 Consider an angle given (all atoms have B-values, which angle-parameter
 can be found by GROMACS in the bonded.itp for the A- and B-state):

 Original topology entry:
 101214 1

 Manually edited entry (with the correct ff-term):
 101214 1 109.700 669.440

 Now, a dump from the tpr-files yields the following:
 Original:
 functype[109]=ANGLES, thA= 1.09700e+02, ctA= 6.69440e+02, thB=
 1.09500e+02, ctB= 2.92880e+02

 Edited:
 functype[109]=ANGLES, thA= 1.09700e+02, ctA= 6.69440e+02, thB=
 1.09700e+02, ctB= 6.69440e+02

I *think* this behavior is described in the documentation. Basically,
anytime A state parameters are specified in the topology and B state
are omitted, A state are copied to B state. To make B state different,
you have to either (a) specify them explicitly, or (b) have them
looked up in the force field where they are different. So this is
expected behavior.

David


 Now, what obviously happens is, that GROMACS searches the entries of the
 angle in the FF for both states and uses them in the case of the
 original topology.
 If one puts a manual entry into the topology for the A-state though, the
 B-state is simply copied, instead of searched by GROMACS.

 This, IMHO, is quite inconvenient. Is this a bug or a feature?

 Regards

 --
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 Max Planck Institute for Biophysical Chemistry
 Theoretical  computational biophysics department
 Am Fassberg 11
 37077 Goettingen
 Germany
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 Fax   : ++49 551 201 2302
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RE: [gmx-users] topology treatment in free energy calculations -possible bug

2008-01-04 Thread Berk Hess

This behavior is itentional.
But it can indeed be confusing.
Therefore in Gromacs 4.0 a warning will be generated (and I have added
a table in the manual that explains all the possible combinations).

If you explicitly define parameters for the A-state, I don't see why
you would want the B-parameters to be looked up based on atom-type.
You would only want that when the A-state parameters are also determined
by the atom type.

Berk.



From: Maik Goette [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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To: GMX-mailinglist gmx-users@gromacs.org
Subject: [gmx-users] topology treatment in free energy calculations 
-possible bug

Date: Fri, 04 Jan 2008 15:15:57 +0100

Hi

I just found a strange behaviour of GROMACS, when processing topologies 
with B-values. Maybe I just think of it as unintuitive/bug, but here we go:


e.g. OPLS

Consider an angle given (all atoms have B-values, which angle-parameter can 
be found by GROMACS in the bonded.itp for the A- and B-state):


Original topology entry:
101214 1

Manually edited entry (with the correct ff-term):
101214 1 109.700 669.440

Now, a dump from the tpr-files yields the following:
Original:
functype[109]=ANGLES, thA= 1.09700e+02, ctA= 6.69440e+02, thB= 1.09500e+02, 
ctB= 2.92880e+02


Edited:
functype[109]=ANGLES, thA= 1.09700e+02, ctA= 6.69440e+02, thB= 1.09700e+02, 
ctB= 6.69440e+02


Now, what obviously happens is, that GROMACS searches the entries of the 
angle in the FF for both states and uses them in the case of the original 
topology.
If one puts a manual entry into the topology for the A-state though, the 
B-state is simply copied, instead of searched by GROMACS.


This, IMHO, is quite inconvenient. Is this a bug or a feature?

Regards

--
Maik Goette, Dipl. Biol.
Max Planck Institute for Biophysical Chemistry
Theoretical  computational biophysics department
Am Fassberg 11
37077 Goettingen
Germany
Tel.  : ++49 551 201 2310
Fax   : ++49 551 201 2302
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Re: [gmx-users] topology of Alpha d-mannopyranosyl (1-6) alpha d-mannopyranose

2007-09-19 Thread Mark Abraham

parichita parichita wrote:
Thaks for your suggesion... 
 
I want to use Gromacs for MD on my disaccharides in explicit water box.Now, the 
problem I encounter is that the pdb2gmx produces the topologies where hydrogens 
sitting on carbons are condensed on carbon atoms they sit on. I need them explicitly 
since I would like to study the NMR coupling contanst of hydroxy protons and C-H protons.I 
mean 3J(H-O-C-H) and measure the distance between the C-H proton through the glycosidic linkage. 
So my questions are;


1- Are the force fields(45a3,53a5) that are implemented in Gromacs capable of taking care 
of hydrogens sitting on carbon atoms in a sugar molecule explicitly?


See below, and http://wiki.gromacs.org/index.php/Force_Fields

2- How can I most reliably produce topologies for my disaccharide that will 
be placed in a water box to perform MD?


pdb2gmx... you should find and do some tutorial material to learn about 
this.


I am quite new to MD methods therefore I apologize already now if I put 
forward something incoherent.


You should definitely be doing some background reading of textbooks and 
tutorials if you haven't yet come across the phenomena of united-atom 
and all-atom force fields. MD simulations are fabulously easy ways to 
generate very expensive random numbers, and there's no substitute for 
library work and careful experimentation. The first few chapters of the 
GROMACS manual are a good place to start.


Mark
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Re: [gmx-users] topology of Alpha d-mannopyranosyl (1-6) alpha d-mannopyranose

2007-09-19 Thread parichita parichita

Thaks for your suggesion... 
 
I want to use Gromacs for MD on my disaccharides in explicit water box.Now, the 
problem I encounter is that the pdb2gmx produces the topologies where hydrogens 
sitting on carbons are condensed on carbon atoms they sit on. I need them 
explicitly 
since I would like to study the NMR coupling contanst of hydroxy protons and 
C-H protons.I 
mean 3J(H-O-C-H) and measure the distance between the C-H proton through the 
glycosidic linkage. 
So my questions are;

1- Are the force fields(45a3,53a5) that are implemented in Gromacs capable of 
taking care 
of hydrogens sitting on carbon atoms in a sugar molecule explicitly?

2- How can I most reliably produce topologies for my disaccharide that will 
be placed in a water box to perform MD?


I am quite new to MD methods therefore I apologize already now if I put 
forward something incoherent.

Thanks for the help,
 

Tsjerk Wassenaar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Parichita,

My guess is you only thought to have 1-6 linkage, because the atoms
seemed so nicely involved in the .pdb file. But you'll have to define
a bond explicitly or it won't be there to break in the first place. I
think you need to read up on topologies, force fields and general
background about simulating molecular systems. Chapter 5 is a must. If
you continue on this path, note that sugar dihedrals, especially the
ones connecting the rings, are complex. Check out Roberto Lins' paper
on the 45a3 force field.

Tsjerk

On 9/17/07, Mark Abraham  wrote:
 parichita parichita wrote:
  Hi again.
Thank you for your help
   I found my MANA in the ffG53a5.rtp and i can prepare
  the .gro and .top file from pdb2gmx.
  Now , i am facing another problem after solvation of
  my solute when i run the minimization the 1-6 linkage
  was broken ..
  please help me out 

 linkage was broken doesn't help us help you. Please describe in detail
 what you observed and why you think it was wrong.

 Mark
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Re: [gmx-users] topology of Alpha d-mannopyranosyl (1-6) alpha d-mannopyranose

2007-09-17 Thread Mark Abraham

parichita parichita wrote:

Hi again.
  Thank you for your help
 I found my MANA in the ffG53a5.rtp and i can prepare
the .gro and .top file from pdb2gmx.
Now , i am facing another problem after solvation of
my solute when i run the minimization the 1-6 linkage
was broken ..
please help me out 


linkage was broken doesn't help us help you. Please describe in detail 
what you observed and why you think it was wrong.


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Re: [gmx-users] topology of Alpha d-mannopyranosyl (1-6) alpha d-mannopyranose

2007-09-17 Thread Tsjerk Wassenaar
Parichita,

My guess is you only thought to have 1-6 linkage, because the atoms
seemed so nicely involved in the .pdb file. But you'll have to define
a bond explicitly or it won't be there to break in the first place. I
think you need to read up on topologies, force fields and general
background about simulating molecular systems. Chapter 5 is a must. If
you continue on this path, note that sugar dihedrals, especially the
ones connecting the rings, are complex. Check out Roberto Lins' paper
on the 45a3 force field.

Tsjerk

On 9/17/07, Mark Abraham [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 parichita parichita wrote:
  Hi again.
Thank you for your help
   I found my MANA in the ffG53a5.rtp and i can prepare
  the .gro and .top file from pdb2gmx.
  Now , i am facing another problem after solvation of
  my solute when i run the minimization the 1-6 linkage
  was broken ..
  please help me out 

 linkage was broken doesn't help us help you. Please describe in detail
 what you observed and why you think it was wrong.

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Re: [gmx-users] topology of Alpha d-mannopyranosyl (1-6) alpha d-mannopyranose

2007-09-14 Thread TJ Piggot
Just a quick look at the ffG45a3.rtp shows that there is an entry for ADE, 
however the ADE entry is for Adenine.


For help with your problem check out:

http://wiki.gromacs.org/index.php/Errors#Residue_.27XXX.27_not_found_in_residue_topology_database

Tom

--On Friday, September 14, 2007 14:13:55 +0100 parichita parichita 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



Hi,

 I have facing some problem when converting .pdb file to .gro and
.top .
 I have a .pdb of alpha d-mannose (1-6) alpha d-mannose. I was using the
pdb2gmx command and 45a3 forcefield .
 Showing the fatal error:
 Atom O in residue ADE 1 not found in rtp entry with 25 atoms
  while sorting atoms
 and
Warning: 'ADMA' not found in residue topology database, trying to use
'ADE'
 Warning: 'ADMA' not found in residue topology database, trying to use
'ADE


but in  ffG45a3.rtp I could not found any ADE ...
 so I was confused ...
 Please give me some suggession.
 The format of my M6M.pdb is,

ATOM  1  C5  ADMA1   3.337   1.774  -8.944  1.00  0.00
C
 ATOM  2  O   ADMA1   4.702   1.679  -8.463  1.00  0.00
O
 ATOM  3  C1  ADMA1   5.227   0.338  -8.248  1.00  0.00
C
 ATOM  4  C2  ADMA1   4.345  -0.412  -7.222  1.00  0.00
C
 ATOM  5  O2  ADMA1   4.481   0.211  -5.965  1.00  0.00
O
 ATOM  6  C3  ADMA1   2.854  -0.372  -7.633  1.00  0.00
C
 ATOM  7  O3  ADMA1   2.063  -0.925  -6.611  1.00  0.00
O
 ATOM  8  C4  ADMA1   2.367   1.065  -7.950  1.00  0.00
C
 ATOM  9  O4  ADMA1   1.062   1.009  -8.476  1.00  0.00
O
 ATOM 10  C6  ADMA1   3.018   3.281  -9.160  1.00  0.00
C
 ATOM 11  O6  ADMA1   1.778   3.456  -9.811  1.00  0.00
O
 ATOM 12  H5  ADMA1   3.271   1.274  -9.929  1.00  0.00
H
 ATOM 13  H1  ADMA1   6.262   0.415  -7.876  1.00  0.00
H
 ATOM 14  H2  ADMA1   4.685  -1.464  -7.133  1.00  0.00
H
 ATOM 15  HO2 ADMA1   5.425   0.166  -5.725  1.00  0.00
H
 ATOM 16  H3  ADMA1   2.727  -0.987  -8.546  1.00  0.00
H
 ATOM 17  HO3 ADMA1   1.139  -0.907  -6.925  1.00  0.00
H
 ATOM 18  H4  ADMA1   2.343   1.645  -7.006  1.00  0.00
H
 ATOM 19  HO4 ADMA1   0.779   1.926  -8.640  1.00  0.00
H
 ATOM 20 1H6  ADMA1   3.805   3.735  -9.772  1.00  0.00
H
 ATOM 21 2H6  ADMA1   3.014   3.809  -8.202  1.00  0.00
H
 ATOM 22  H6  ADMA1   1.654   4.401  -9.918  1.00  0.00
H
 ATOM 23  C5  ADMA1B  5.806  -2.519 -10.516  1.00  0.00
C
 ATOM 24  O   ADMA1B  6.529  -3.735 -10.196  1.00  0.00
O
 ATOM 25  C1  ADMA1B  6.753  -4.668 -11.291  1.00  0.00
C
 ATOM 26  O1  ADMA1B  7.522  -4.046 -12.268  1.00  0.00
O
 ATOM 27  C2  ADMA1B  5.398  -5.107 -11.893  1.00  0.00
C
 ATOM 28  O2  ADMA1B  4.700  -5.870 -10.935  1.00  0.00
O
 ATOM 29  C3  ADMA1B  4.533  -3.881 -12.271  1.00  0.00
C
 ATOM 30  O3  ADMA1B  3.254  -4.305 -12.671  1.00  0.00
O
 ATOM 31  C4  ADMA1B  4.406  -2.866 -11.106  1.00  0.00
C
 ATOM 32  O4  ADMA1B  3.754  -1.706 -11.569  1.00  0.00
O
 ATOM 33  C6  ADMA1B  5.743  -1.655  -9.224  1.00  0.00
C
 ATOM 34  O6  ADMA1B  5.227  -0.368  -9.490  1.00  0.00
O
 ATOM 35  H5  ADMA1B  6.383  -1.951 -11.270  1.00  0.00
H
 ATOM 36  H1  ADMA1B  7.300  -5.545 -10.905  1.00  0.00
H
 ATOM 37  HO1 ADMA1B  7.013  -3.281 -12.602  1.00  0.00
H
 ATOM 38  H2  ADMA1B  5.572  -5.738 -12.788  1.00  0.00
H
 ATOM 39  HO2 ADMA1B  5.261  -6.638 -10.719  1.00  0.00
H
 ATOM 40  H3  ADMA1B  5.014  -3.365 -13.126  1.00  0.00
H
 ATOM 41  HO3 ADMA1B  2.756  -3.507 -12.928  1.00  0.00
H
 ATOM 42  H4  ADMA1B  3.788  -3.323 -10.307  1.00  0.00
H
 ATOM 43  HO4 ADMA1B  3.668  -1.103 -10.809  1.00  0.00
H
 ATOM 44 1H6  ADMA1B  6.749  -1.553  -8.805  1.00  0.00
H
 ATOM 45 2H6  ADMA1B  5.131  -2.153  -8.466  1.00  0.00
H
 TER


thanks in advance ..

parichita...









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Re: [gmx-users] Topology builder

2007-07-03 Thread Mark Abraham
 Hi,

 Is there any fast program to build topology for all-atom OPLS force-field?
 I tried to use PRODRG, but it only has united atom possibilities.

You must either use pdb2gmx or read Chapter 5 and
gromacs/share/top/ffoplsaa* and produce one by hand.

Mark

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RE: [gmx-users] topology doesnt match

2007-04-02 Thread Triguero, Luciano O
Check if you have all group types in your mdp file.
 
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Subject: [gmx-users] topology doesnt match



Dear GMX users
When i tried to rum grompp i get these errors. Would any one be able to
sort out this problem?
Sincerely
Robert
-
grompp -v -f adp.mdp -po adpmdout.mdp -c genbox.gro -p genbox.top -o
gromppout.tpr

creating statusfile for 1 node...

Back Off! I just backed up adpmdout.mdp to ./#adpmdout.mdp.1#
checking input for internal consistency...
calling /lib/cpp...
processing topology...
Generated 279 of the 1225 non-bonded parameter combinations
Excluding 3 bonded neighbours for Protein 1
WARNING 1 [file genbox.top, line 283]:
  System has non-zero total charge: -3.00e+00

processing coordinates...
Fatal error: number of coordinates in coordinate file (genbox.gro, 3516)
 does not match topology (genbox.top, 33)


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Re: [gmx-users] topology doesnt match

2007-04-02 Thread Mark Abraham

Robert Selwyne wrote:

Dear GMX users
When i tried to rum grompp i get these errors. Would any one be able to
sort out this problem?
Sincerely
Robert
-
grompp -v -f adp.mdp -po adpmdout.mdp -c genbox.gro -p genbox.top -o
gromppout.tpr


It would be easier to answer your question if you'd told us what you did 
to generate genbox.gro and genbox.top. As it is, I'm going to have to guess.



creating statusfile for 1 node...

Back Off! I just backed up adpmdout.mdp to ./#adpmdout.mdp.1#
checking input for internal consistency...
calling /lib/cpp...
processing topology...
Generated 279 of the 1225 non-bonded parameter combinations
Excluding 3 bonded neighbours for Protein 1
WARNING 1 [file genbox.top, line 283]:
  System has non-zero total charge: -3.00e+00

processing coordinates...
Fatal error: number of coordinates in coordinate file (genbox.gro, 3516)
 does not match topology (genbox.top, 33)


I guess that you've added solvent, and not updated the [molecules] 
section of the .top file. Check chapter 5 of the manual if you don't 
know how to do this or what I mean :-)


Mark
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Re: [gmx-users] Topology file for D2O

2007-03-27 Thread Andrés N. McCarthy
Hi Joys Yu,

In addition to Tserks comments you might want to use a more specifically 
developed heavy water model.
Here is a reference you may find usefull:
An effective pair potential for heavy water - J. Raul Grigera 
The Journal of Chemical Physics -- May 8, 2001 -- Volume 114, Issue 18, pp. 
8064-8067.

I have created a topology file based on these parameters for a cooperation I 
did some time back. If you are interested I can email the topology  modified 
FF fiels to you.

Regards

Andrés 


El Martes, 27 de Marzo de 2007 03:29, Joys Yu escribió:
 Dear all,

 I would like to do simulation of bulk heavy water
 (D2O). So first thing, I need to get the topology file
 of D2O. In fact, I would like to use SPC H2O. I just
 need to change the mass of H in H2O from 1.008 to
 2.016.

 I would like to use gromacs force field(#7). So I
 revised ffgms.atp. I changed the mass of water
 hydrogen from 1.008 to 2.016.

 When I use pdbtogmx to get the topology, it seems
 fine. I have a bulk heavy water, which has 674 D2O.
 Here is some of the running results from pdbtogmx:

 Now there are 674 residues with 2022 atoms
 Making bonds...
 Opening library file
 /home/gromacs-d/share/top/aminoacids.dat
 Number of bonds was 1348, now 1348
 Generating angles, dihedrals and pairs...
 There are0 dihedrals,0 impropers,  674 angles
  0 pairs, 1348 bonds and 0 virtual
 sites
 Total mass 13501.164 a.m.u.
 Total charge 0.000 e


 The total mass for 674 D2O is correct: 674 * 20.03 =
 13501.164

 Here is the topology file that I got for D2O:

 ;
 ;   File 'd2o.top' was generated
 ;   By user: Joys (1002)
 ;   On host: Boyang
 ;   At date: Mon Mar 26 20:15:57 2007
 ;
 ;   This is your topology file
 ;   Generated by genbox
 ;
 ; Include forcefield parameters
 #include ffgmx.itp

 ; Include water topology
 #include spc.itp

 #ifdef POSRES_WATER
 ; Position restraint for each water oxygen
 [ position_restraints ]
 ;  i funct   fcxfcyfcz
11   1000   1000   1000
 #endif

 ; Include generic topology for ions
 #include ions.itp

 [ system ]
 ; Name
 Generated by genbox

 [ molecules ]
 ; Compound#mols
 SOL   674

 Everything seems fine here. Then I want to do a MD
 simulation. I used grompp to get the .tpr. I could
 also run it. But in the .log file, I found the mass of
 the system is the mass of H2o ( about 12132) not
 13501.164.

 I got D2O topology from pdb2gmx correctly. But it
 seems that grompp did not read in this topology.

 Can anybody kindly tell me where the problem is? What
 should I do to get D2O topology?

 Many thanks,
 Joys Yu






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Re: [gmx-users] Topology file for D2O

2007-03-27 Thread David Mobley

Hi,

I am not an expert about heavy water -- but it does seem strange to me
to think that you could get heavy water just by changing the mass of
the hydrogens in a conventional water model. The *only* thing this
will affect is the kinetic energy and mass of water. Presumably
changing hydrogen to deuterium *should* also affect other things, such
as perhaps slightly altering the electrostatics or dispersion
interactions, or the water molecule shape. I'm no expert -- but I bet
there's more to it than just a slight change in mass.

Maybe you might already know part of the answer to this: Why is it you
want to run with D2O instead of regular water? I'm guessing it's
because you expect some difference in behavior... Should that really
be due exclusively to a difference in mass?

David



On 3/27/07, Andrés N. McCarthy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Hi Joys Yu,

In addition to Tserks comments you might want to use a more specifically
developed heavy water model.
Here is a reference you may find usefull:
An effective pair potential for heavy water - J. Raul Grigera
The Journal of Chemical Physics -- May 8, 2001 -- Volume 114, Issue 18, pp.
8064-8067.

I have created a topology file based on these parameters for a cooperation I
did some time back. If you are interested I can email the topology  modified
FF fiels to you.

Regards

Andrés


El Martes, 27 de Marzo de 2007 03:29, Joys Yu escribió:
 Dear all,

 I would like to do simulation of bulk heavy water
 (D2O). So first thing, I need to get the topology file
 of D2O. In fact, I would like to use SPC H2O. I just
 need to change the mass of H in H2O from 1.008 to
 2.016.

 I would like to use gromacs force field(#7). So I
 revised ffgms.atp. I changed the mass of water
 hydrogen from 1.008 to 2.016.

 When I use pdbtogmx to get the topology, it seems
 fine. I have a bulk heavy water, which has 674 D2O.
 Here is some of the running results from pdbtogmx:

 Now there are 674 residues with 2022 atoms
 Making bonds...
 Opening library file
 /home/gromacs-d/share/top/aminoacids.dat
 Number of bonds was 1348, now 1348
 Generating angles, dihedrals and pairs...
 There are0 dihedrals,0 impropers,  674 angles
  0 pairs, 1348 bonds and 0 virtual
 sites
 Total mass 13501.164 a.m.u.
 Total charge 0.000 e


 The total mass for 674 D2O is correct: 674 * 20.03 =
 13501.164

 Here is the topology file that I got for D2O:

 ;
 ;   File 'd2o.top' was generated
 ;   By user: Joys (1002)
 ;   On host: Boyang
 ;   At date: Mon Mar 26 20:15:57 2007
 ;
 ;   This is your topology file
 ;   Generated by genbox
 ;
 ; Include forcefield parameters
 #include ffgmx.itp

 ; Include water topology
 #include spc.itp

 #ifdef POSRES_WATER
 ; Position restraint for each water oxygen
 [ position_restraints ]
 ;  i funct   fcxfcyfcz
11   1000   1000   1000
 #endif

 ; Include generic topology for ions
 #include ions.itp

 [ system ]
 ; Name
 Generated by genbox

 [ molecules ]
 ; Compound#mols
 SOL   674

 Everything seems fine here. Then I want to do a MD
 simulation. I used grompp to get the .tpr. I could
 also run it. But in the .log file, I found the mass of
 the system is the mass of H2o ( about 12132) not
 13501.164.

 I got D2O topology from pdb2gmx correctly. But it
 seems that grompp did not read in this topology.

 Can anybody kindly tell me where the problem is? What
 should I do to get D2O topology?

 Many thanks,
 Joys Yu






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