Re: Recommendations for VPN end point appliances?

2004-06-13 Thread bscott
On Fri, 11 Jun 2004, at 10:51pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> ... does anyone have any recommendations for VPN end point appliances.

  Of all the appliances I've used, my favorite is NetScreen.  Outstanding
features and performance at a competitive price.  Gotta love that SSH CLI.

  SonicWall is okay.  They used to require a subscribe just to use 
certificates, but I believe that has changed.

  I've had someone recommend SnapGear to me; it is apparently a Linux-based 
appliance.  Haven't had a chance to actually look into it, though.

  For maximum flexibility, there is always the possibility of an SBC running
Linux out of flash.

> I ordered a pair of BEFSX41 LinkSys routers ...

  My experience with LinkSys VPN boxes is that they are flakey and have an
abysmal feature set.  They tend to need to be rebooted on a regular basis.  
No support for public key crypto (come on', shared secrets went out in the
1980s).  Their firewall/filtering settings are a joke.

  I frequently recommend LinkSys NAT boxes for SOHO use, but IMO, they just
don't cut it for VPN use.

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Re: Recommendations for VPN end point appliances?

2004-06-13 Thread Brian
On Sun, 2004-06-13 at 13:14, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>   I've had someone recommend SnapGear to me; it is apparently a Linux-based 
> appliance.  Haven't had a chance to actually look into it, though.
> 

If you're speaking of the ClearPath SNAP box... It *is* linux-based, but
not really shipping yet. I have a demo unit sitting here next to me. 
Basically mini-itx system board, 256MB compact flash for boot, and 3
on-board Ethernets.  The rest is all linux...
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WANTED: a few 9-track tapes transcribed

2004-06-13 Thread Michael ODonnell

...to just about any less primitive medium.  Anybody
have an old 9-track drive and willing to help?
 
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Re: Recommendations for VPN end point appliances?

2004-06-13 Thread bscott
On 13 Jun 2004, at 1:32pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>> I've had someone recommend SnapGear to me ...
>
> If you're speaking of the ClearPath SNAP box...

  No, I'm speaking of SnapGear.  http://www.snapgear.com

  Hmmm... they appear to have been bought by CyberGuard.  Since I don't
really know anything about either company, the net change in my practical
knowledge is zero.  :-)

  Their products exist as something you can buy and touch, as one of our
customers got them as part of a larger package from another vendor.  They
appeared to work.  The advertised prices were very attractive.  That's as
much as I know.

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Re: Recommendations for VPN end point appliances?

2004-06-13 Thread Chris


[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
> On Fri, 11 Jun 2004, at 10:51pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > ... does anyone have any recommendations for VPN end point appliances.
> 

>   My experience with LinkSys VPN boxes is that they are flakey and have an
> abysmal feature set.  They tend to need to be rebooted on a regular basis.
> No support for public key crypto (come on', shared secrets went out in the
> 1980s).  

Maybe, but SNMP V3 still uses it..

> 
>   I frequently recommend LinkSys NAT boxes for SOHO use, but IMO, they just
> don't cut it for VPN use.
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Re: Recommendations for VPN end point appliances?

2004-06-13 Thread bscott
On Sun, 13 Jun 2004, at 9:40pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>> ... shared secrets went out in the 1980s ...
> 
> Maybe, but SNMP V3 still uses it..

  That's hardly an endorsement.  SNMP's approach to security issues has
generally been to ignore them.  (SNMP = Security?  Not my problem!)  The
fact that SNMPv3 has any security at all is a huge advance.  Now you want it
to be modern, too?

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Re: Recommendations for VPN end point appliances?

2004-06-13 Thread Chris


[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
> On Sun, 13 Jun 2004, at 9:40pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> >> ... shared secrets went out in the 1980s ...
> >
> > Maybe, but SNMP V3 still uses it..
> 
>   That's hardly an endorsement.  SNMP's approach to security issues has
> generally been to ignore them.  (SNMP = Security?  Not my problem!)  The
> fact that SNMPv3 has any security at all is a huge advance.  Now you want it
> to be modern, too?
> 

Yep, I totally agree, also SNMP is anything but simple, and why no-one
has come out with something a lot more user friendly, I don't know,  
However, it keeps me employed, so I shouldn't complain too much. :)
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