Re: peertech.org - localhost ?

2006-03-03 Thread Neil Schelly
On Thursday 02 March 2006 09:49 pm, Michael ODonnell wrote:
http://www.peertech.org/

 ...I was presented with the default page from the WWW
 server on my own machine.  WTF?  But then I notice that
 the DNS is in fact resolving that address to 127.0.0.1
 which, at least in my experience, seems weird.

 Is this in fact some sort of normal situation, like maybe
 that's the standard way a dormant domain gets parked ?

Well, it's odd, but the manager of that domain can set whatever IPs he wants 
to do for these things.  It's definitely not parked.  Here's the output of a 
zone transfer below which shows that the owner set peertech.org and 
www.peertech.org to resolve to localhost, while he setup MX records, and 
domains for vpn and home.  

Perhaps he has just a sense of humor?
-N

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ dig @ns8.zoneedit.com. peertech.org AXFR

;  DiG 9.2.4  @ns8.zoneedit.com. peertech.org AXFR
;; global options:  printcmd
peertech.org.   7200IN  SOA ns8.zoneedit.com. 
soacontact.zoneedit.com. 1123553593 14400 7200 950400 7200
peertech.org.   7200IN  NS  ns8.zoneedit.com.
peertech.org.   7200IN  NS  ns17.zoneedit.com.
peertech.org.   7200IN  A   127.0.0.1
peertech.org.   7200IN  MX  0 mail5.zoneedit.com.
peertech.org.   7200IN  MX  0 mail4.zoneedit.com.
vpn.peertech.org.   7200IN  A   207.162.210.21
www.peertech.org.   7200IN  A   127.0.0.1
home.peertech.org.  7200IN  A   71.111.75.192
peertech.org.   7200IN  SOA ns8.zoneedit.com. 
soacontact.zoneedit.com. 1123553593 14400 7200 950400 7200
;; Query time: 179 msec
;; SERVER: 206.55.124.4#53(ns8.zoneedit.com.)
;; WHEN: Fri Mar  3 07:38:07 2006
;; XFR size: 10 records


That certainly 
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Re: peertech.org - localhost ?

2006-03-03 Thread Travis Roy

On Thursday 02 March 2006 09:49 pm, Michael ODonnell wrote:


  http://www.peertech.org/

...I was presented with the default page from the WWW
server on my own machine.  WTF?  But then I notice that
the DNS is in fact resolving that address to 127.0.0.1
which, at least in my experience, seems weird.

Is this in fact some sort of normal situation, like maybe
that's the standard way a dormant domain gets parked ?


I've seen this a lot more then I would have thought. Mostly people do it 
for like localhost.domain.com, not for www :)


We have quite a few customers that have at least one item pointed to 
127.0.0.1.






Well, it's odd, but the manager of that domain can set whatever IPs he wants 
to do for these things.  It's definitely not parked.  Here's the output of a 
zone transfer below which shows that the owner set peertech.org and 
www.peertech.org to resolve to localhost, while he setup MX records, and 
domains for vpn and home.  


Perhaps he has just a sense of humor?
-N

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ dig @ns8.zoneedit.com. peertech.org AXFR

;  DiG 9.2.4  @ns8.zoneedit.com. peertech.org AXFR
;; global options:  printcmd
peertech.org.   7200IN  SOA ns8.zoneedit.com. 
soacontact.zoneedit.com. 1123553593 14400 7200 950400 7200

peertech.org.   7200IN  NS  ns8.zoneedit.com.
peertech.org.   7200IN  NS  ns17.zoneedit.com.
peertech.org.   7200IN  A   127.0.0.1
peertech.org.   7200IN  MX  0 mail5.zoneedit.com.
peertech.org.   7200IN  MX  0 mail4.zoneedit.com.
vpn.peertech.org.   7200IN  A   207.162.210.21
www.peertech.org.   7200IN  A   127.0.0.1
home.peertech.org.  7200IN  A   71.111.75.192
peertech.org.   7200IN  SOA ns8.zoneedit.com. 
soacontact.zoneedit.com. 1123553593 14400 7200 950400 7200

;; Query time: 179 msec
;; SERVER: 206.55.124.4#53(ns8.zoneedit.com.)
;; WHEN: Fri Mar  3 07:38:07 2006
;; XFR size: 10 records


That certainly 
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Re: peertech.org - localhost ?

2006-03-03 Thread Drew Van Zandt
I've often pointed e.g. devel.oddones.org at a private address space
IP like 192.168.2.22 while I'm mucking about with new development, and
then later updated it to point to a real live server... I love the
flexibility of DNS.  :-)

--DTVZ

On 3/3/06, Travis Roy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  On Thursday 02 March 2006 09:49 pm, Michael ODonnell wrote:
 
http://www.peertech.org/
 
 ...I was presented with the default page from the WWW
 server on my own machine.  WTF?  But then I notice that
 the DNS is in fact resolving that address to 127.0.0.1
 which, at least in my experience, seems weird.
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CentraLUG Meeting, March 6, Steve Amsden, Linux Terminal Services

2006-03-03 Thread Ted Roche

Presentation March 6, 2006
Monday, 7pm at NHTI

The monthly meeting of CentraLUG, the Concord/Central New Hampshire  
chapter of the Greater New Hampshire Linux Users Group, occurs on the  
first Monday of each month on the New Hampshire Institute Campus  
starting at 7 PM. This month, we'll be meeting in Room 146 of the  
Library/Learning Center/Bookstore, http://www.nhti.net/nhtimap.pdf ,  
marked as I on that map. Directions and maps are available on the  
NHTI site at http://www.nhti.edu. Open to the public. Free admission.  
Tell your friends.


This month's meeting will feature Steve Amsden, Network Administrator  
for the Merrimack Valley School District, showing off LTSP, http:// 
www.ltsp.org/, the Linux Terminal Server Project. From Steve:


LTSP is an add-on package for Linux that allows you to connect lots  
of low-powered thin client terminals to a Linux server. Applications  
typically run on the server, and accept input and display their  
output on the thin client display. The power and flexibility of this  
platform have far reaching implications, particularly for K12 school  
districts who have been educated and brave enough to seek other  
solutions than the cost of systems and applications software.  But  
more specifically, being locked into a treadmill of constant  
upgrades, licensing problems, and unsupportable client-server nework  
environments that have been the Achille's heel of technology  
education.  Merrimack Valley School District has five LTSP server  
environments in various states of implementation, and
uses e-Smith Linux server for gateway, DHCP, content filtering,  
firewall, and Windows 2000 emulation using SAMBA.  Exeter School  
District, as well as Salem, are too using combinations of e-Smith and  
LTSP.  Though LTSP has made in-roads into the schools, it will be  
some time before the full impact is realized, and others convinced  
that there is a better way than the Microsoft Way.


1) Opening Remarks/Overview of Presentation
2) Begin LTSP Demo Server Installation
3) Login to LTSP Terminals
4) Overview of User Desktop Options and Applications
5) Eval the Role of dhcpd.conf  lts.conf in Configuring LTSP
6) Test Terminal Access to Demo Server
7) Review LTSP-to-Windows Terminal Server Connectivity
8) Closing Remarks, Q  A, Handouts (CD copies of LTSP 4.2 and e- 
Smith 6.01-1 will be available)


Should be an awesome presentation! Tell your friends! Tell your schools!

(Steve had indicated if this presentation goes well, he'd be open to  
consider a NH-wide Quarterly meeting or similar venue.)


More details at about the group are available at http:// 
www.centralug.org and http://www.gnhlug.org.


Hope to see you there!

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Re: CentraLUG Meeting, March 6, Steve Amsden, Linux Terminal Services

2006-03-03 Thread Bruce Dawson

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Ted Roche wrote:

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| This month's meeting will feature Steve Amsden, Network
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| off LTSP, http:// www.ltsp.org/, the Linux Terminal Server Project.
| From Steve: ...

Grumble. I have to pick up Carole in Boston Monday night, so I can't
make it.

However, if you need the projector, let me know and I'll drop it off
on my way to Boston.

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Re: Asset Management

2006-03-03 Thread Neil Schelly
  There are tons of FOSS projects that do asset management 
 and they have many of the features you seek.  Note the common
 vein in the urls. =)
Not to be rude, but I can search too.  The results of a search aren't always 
all that useful though (see below).  

 http://sourceforge.net/projects/asset-tracker
Has potential - I'll play with it.
 http://simpleassets.sourceforge.net/
Very inflexible, limited selection of attributes and really more intended as a 
responsibility system it appears, keeping track of who owns different assets.
 http://helpcore.sourceforge.net/
Website is a link to a site that doesn't work.
 http://ascent.sourceforge.net/
Abandonware that didn't get too far.
 https://sourceforge.net/projects/enetman/
Bad website - will have to download a play to see what features it has.
 http://sourceforge.net/projects/nexb
Doesn't actually do asset management, but is a module of an asset management 
project they have planned.
 http://assetmanagement.sourceforge.net/
Development Status  : 1 - Planning 
 http://sourceforge.net/projects/irm/
Decent project, except it doesn't have any ability to change the attributes 
you can store.  This is actually a pretty decent looking package for request 
tracking, task management, etc.

I'm just apparently in a minority looking for an asset manager that *only* 
does asset management, and doesn't compromise that for a bunch of other 
functionality that I'd prefer to stick with Nagios and Request Tracker.  Any 
integration between them, I'd rather just do with cross-links and I'd be 
perfectly satisfied with that.
-N
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Re: asset management tools?

2006-03-03 Thread Neil Schelly
On Wednesday 01 March 2006 05:02 pm, Bill McGonigle wrote:
 IRM (domain specific):
http://sourceforge.net/projects/irm
I looked at that too, but it wasn't very flexible in the storage of 
attributes.  It's really more as Paul described in his other reply and I 
really only want an inventory program.  These 
inventory/ticketing/todo/monitoring packages are neat and I'd be happy to 
only use the inventory aspects of them if they didn't feel so limited and 
compromised for the rest of the functionality.

 CRM-CTT (more general):
http://crm-ctt.sourceforge.net/
This seems to be about the same as IRM.  More of a ticket management system 
with an emphasis on assets...  I think.  Browsing around their demo, it kept 
changing languages on me.

 If you find a clear winner please report back - I see this wheel
 reinvented repeatedly.
If I do, I will.  I'm starting to wonder if I'll just go and reinvent the 
wheel again though... I know that anything I code along those lines won't be 
very flexible though as I tend to program things like this very 
self-centered.  Rather than abstract everything from everything so that it 
can work for everyone, I tend to be the type to consolidate all the 
functionality I need to a very specific bash script or something. ;-)
-N
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Re: asset management tools?

2006-03-03 Thread Neil Schelly
On Wednesday 01 March 2006 08:53 am, Paul Lussier wrote:
 It started out as a means to track hard drive temperature over time.
 But since we needed to have all systems and all drives in all systems
 in the database, we decided to make it a general asset management
 system.  From there we decided to add tables to manage users.  From
 the database, once we get the scripts written, we're planning on
 generating:

   - /etc/netgroup
   - /etc/sudoers
   - /etc/ssh/ssh_host_keys
   - DNS zone files
   - LDIF for an LDAP server
   - ~special user/.ssh/authorized_keys(2)
   - a (dynamic) web based phone/pager contact list

Have you ever looked into cfengine for these kinds of tasks?  I've heard that 
it's very flexible for this sort of detailed remote management, but that it 
can be a bit of a pain to get setup.

For that matter, has anyone here used cfengine before?  I've been considering 
trying to play with it on my own and seeing how it can make our production 
environment a little happier.

 I'd love to see the list of things you care about.  Feel free to mail
 me privately if you don't want to discuss this on list.
Well, due to some rather bad development practices here, it's important to 
know the date that a particular installation of our software was built on, 
because development doesn't really have branches or tags in CVS or milestone 
releases or anything.  Instead, whatever is committed into CVS when the 
installation tarball is built is what gets installed.  I know it makes no 
sense and I'd love to change it (as would the developers for that matter), 
but management seems to think it's not worth the investment of time to learn 
how to do things right.  Other than that, specific hardware peripherals, 
firmware revisions, ram types and sizes, slots for more, hard disks, 
brand/model/submodel, OS and version, role within our production 
infrastructure, peers in terms of clustering, wishlist if it's approaching a 
limit of its hardware, date of purchase, number of Us...

That's what I come up with off the top of my head and most of that can be kept 
track of so long as I can customize the attributes it stores.
-Neil
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Re: asset management tools?

2006-03-03 Thread Neil Schelly
On Wednesday 01 March 2006 08:45 am, Bair,Paul A. wrote:
 On Tue, 2006-02-28 at 20:54 -0500, Neil Joseph Schelly wrote:
  I'm looking to replace a spreadsheet listing all our servers with a
  web-based asset management tool. I'm wondering what experience all of you
  may have with the available tools out there.
 
  Essentially, I want to be able to list servers and specify arbitrary
  attributes for those servers as we have a number of inventory attributes
  we keep track of that are rather specific to our use and I'm sure won't
  be in any preselected group of attributes.

 This might not be what you're looking for, but this is how I keep track
 of alive systems.  I run WebJob

I'm looking for more of a simple solution - I really just want something that 
does asset management well and can let me keep track of changes with dated 
notes, and stuff.  It can be very manual - it just needs to be flexible.
-N
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Re: Reminder - Tomorrow: DLSLUG Monthly Meeting - March 2nd

2006-03-03 Thread Jonathan Linowes
For those of you who requested, here's copy of my powerpoint from last 
night's meeting

http://www.parkerhill.com/Xaraya-DLSLUG.ppt

Jonathan

- Original Message - 
From: Bill McGonigle [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, March 01, 2006 2:25 AM
Subject: Reminder - Tomorrow: DLSLUG Monthly Meeting - March 2nd


[ we have schwag from LinuxWorld Expo and Sybase for this meeting's 
raffle ]

[ don't forget to RSVP ]

-Bill

***
   Dartmouth-Lake Sunapee Linux Users Group
   http://www.dlslug.org/
***

The next regular monthly meeting of the DLSLUG will be held:
 Thursday, March 2nd, 7-9PM
at: Dartmouth College, Carson Hall Room L01
All are welcome, free of charge.

Agenda

7:00  Sign-in, networking

7:15  Introductory remarks

7:20  Xaraya

  Xaraya is an extensible, Open Source web application
  framework written in PHP and licensed under the GNU
  General Public License. Xaraya delivers the requisite
  infrastructure and tools to create custom web applications
  that include fully dynamic multi-platform Content Mangement
  Solutions (CMS). Xaraya's modular, database independent
  architecture introduces tools that separate form, function,
  content, and design with on-the-fly extensions allowing
  greater control and versatility.

  Jonathan will present an overview of Xaraya, its architecture,
  core modules, and extension modules, including a brief
  demonstration how to get started developing web sites using
  the Xaraya platform. Examples will be used from current live
  web sites.

  Jonathan is principal of Parkerhill Technology Group, a
  strategic management and web development firm, and has over
  25 years of entrepreneurial and technical experience ranging
  from small start-ups to multinational corporations. He holds a
  Masters degree in Media Technology from MIT, and serves on
  several boards including the Software Assocation of NH (SwANH),
  Amoskaeg Business Incubator in Manchester NH, MIT Enterprise
  Forum of NH, and North Country Council CEDS (economic
  development strategy). Jonathan lives in northern Grafton
  County on a retired dairy farm with his wife and 4 young
  children.

8:30  Roundtable Exchange - where the attendees can make
  announcements or ask a linux question.

Please see the website for links to directions.

If any area companies are interested in sponsoring refreshments, please
let me know.

Please RSVP so we can give a theoretical refreshment sponsor a headcount.
-

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   list and a Discuss list.  Please sign up for the Announce list
   (moderated, low-volume) to stay apprised of the group's activities
   and the Discuss list (unmoderated) for group discussion.
   Links to the mailing lists are on the webpage.

Please pass this announcement along to anyone else who may be
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LinuxWorld Early Bird Discounts Extended to 10 March

2006-03-03 Thread Ted Roche
Bill mentioned at last night's meeting that the LinuxWorld Expo  
discounts were expiring soon, so I went to register today. Looks like  
the top-tier discount expires on 10 March, an extension from their  
earlier deadline. Get your registrations in now!


If you are thinking of volunteering to staff the booth (and you're  
ALL thinking of that, right?). make sure to get an Expo pass in  
advance so that you don't have to pay to get in. Expo passes at the  
door are $50, but free if you register in advance.


http://www.linuxworldexpo.com/live/12/events/12BOS06A

Ted Roche
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Monadnock Linux User Group - March 9th

2006-03-03 Thread guy Pardoe
The next meeting of the Monadnock Linux User Group (MonadLUG) will be
Thursday, March 9th, 7:00pm, at the SAU 1 Superintendent's Office behind
South Meadow School in Peterborough.



 AGENDA 

1.  Announcements.

2.  SSH Operations and Techniques - Bill Stearns

SSH is a program to log into another computer over a network, to execute
commands in a remote machine, and to move files from one machine to another.
It provides strong authentication and secure communications over insecure
channels. It is a replacement for rlogin, rsh, rcp, and rdist. It protects a
network from attacks such as IP spoofing, IP source routing, and DNS
spoofing.

*


Directions:  The SAU 1 Superintendant of Schools office is directly behind
the South Meadow School.  From downtown Peterborough, travel north on route
202 approximately 2  1/2 miles.  Look for a white sign on the left SAU 1
Superintendant of Schools Office.  The entrance is on the left, just before
South Meadow school, and across the street from Sims Press.  Follow the
drive up towards dumpsters where there is ample parking. Come down the
stairs to the set of doors on your right. Enter thru double set of doors and
turn left...straight into the board room.

Or check the link to Google maps to see our location:
  http://wiki.gnhlug.org/twiki2/bin/view/Www/OurChapters#monadlug


We're also looking for topics for future meetings.  If you have a suggestion
or would like to present a topic yourself, please contact me at
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Please forward this announcement to anyone you think may be interested in
attending.

Thank you,

Guy Pardoe
MonadLUG Coordinator
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Deadline for LinuxWorld Badges Mailed is 3 march

2006-03-03 Thread Ted Roche

Ah. In the confirmation I got today when registering.

Exhibit Only Registrants . U.S. attendees who register on or before  
March 3, 2006 will be mailed their badge cards in February. Simply  
bring your badge to any Badge Holder Pick-Up area, located in the  
main lobby of the Boston Convention  Exhibition Center, to receive  
your badge holder. All exhibit hall attendees who register AFTER  
March 3, 2006, as well as all exhibit hall registrants residing  
outside of the U.S., will NOT receive their badges and badge holders  
in the mail. Simply proceed, with your confirmation, to the Exhibit  
Hall Registration area located in the main lobby of the Boston  
Convention  Exhibition Center. Please note that identification is  
required to receive your badge and badge holder. Proper  
identification (driver`s license, credit card) may be required to  
receive your registration materials. Business cards will not be  
accepted as appropriate identification.


FYI.

Ted Roche
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http://www.tedroche.com


On Mar 3, 2006, at 5:15 PM, Ted Roche wrote:

Bill mentioned at last night's meeting that the LinuxWorld Expo  
discounts were expiring soon, so I went to register today. Looks  
like the top-tier discount expires on 10 March, an extension from  
their earlier deadline. Get your registrations in now!


If you are thinking of volunteering to staff the booth (and you're  
ALL thinking of that, right?). make sure to get an Expo pass in  
advance so that you don't have to pay to get in. Expo passes at the  
door are $50, but free if you register in advance.


http://www.linuxworldexpo.com/live/12/events/12BOS06A

Ted Roche
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OT: Forum legalish question

2006-03-03 Thread Travis Roy
Some of you on the list know about this, for those that don't here's a 
quick lowdown.


I live in the Emerald Lake Village District in Hillsborough, NH. We have 
our own seperate board of commissioners.


One of them is a real a-hole.

The unofficial webiste (www.emeraldlake.org) had a forum. The admin of 
the site would edit and delete posts to help the commissioners.


I didn't like this so I started my own forum on www.elvd.org.

Well, I was using the uncopywritten logo on my site. After some back and 
fourth with legal threats and such I decided to take it down and replace 
it with a picture of a sign in the district (with the same logo on it).


After some back and fourth about that (it actually got them more mad, as 
I thought. Probably because there was less they could do about it). I 
removed it and replaced it with the current logo (inspired by the 
russian flag). I also put up a pic of Joseph Stalin, I found it fitting 
since the commissioner in question is named Joe.


I just found out that at tonights meeting (that I didn't attend because 
I didn't want to be a target, but my wife attended), I found out that he 
managed to get the other board members to approve a retainer to the 
district lawyer to sue me and other board members for slander and libel.


I was just looking for opinion. I haven't gotten anything official from 
him or his laywer yet. He's never even asked for any posts to be removed 
or edited.


Thanks..

PS, the unoffical site admin said he has permissions to use the logo 
from a previous board.

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[OT] editor learning curves

2006-03-03 Thread Michael ODonnell

Let's remember to reference these graphics the
next time we're debating which editor is best:;-

   http://unix.rulez.org/~calver/pictures/curves.jpg
 
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