Re: Android PMPs (was: Qi-Hardware Nanonote group purchase?)

2010-09-09 Thread Tom Buskey
On Wed, Sep 8, 2010 at 11:05 PM, Benjamin Scott dragonh...@gmail.comwrote:

 On Wed, Sep 8, 2010 at 10:43 PM, Joshua Judson Rosen
 roz...@geekspace.com wrote:
  (Oh, and: is there a better shorthand than PMP? I keep reading
  android pimps, and it just... doesn't sit right...)

   PIMEED.[1]

 -- Ben

 [1] Portable Individual Media Experience Enablement Device.  Now
 available with Genuine People Personalities!  Only from Sirius
 Cybernetics Corporation!


MID - Mobile Internet Device.  See SmartQ, CrunchTablet, even the Archos
devices.

PMP is a Portable Music Player.  Most MIDs can do music.

If the Palm PDAs had WiFi, they'd qualify as MIDs.  They may not have had
the functionality of today's Android devices, but they got the price point.
I'm not sure I'll ever buy a $400 tablet.
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Re: Android PMPs (was: Qi-Hardware Nanonote group purchase?)

2010-09-09 Thread David Rysdam
An agent or agents purporting to be Tom Buskey said:
 On Wed, Sep 8, 2010 at 11:05 PM, Benjamin Scott dragonh...@gmail.comwrote:
 
  On Wed, Sep 8, 2010 at 10:43 PM, Joshua Judson Rosen
  roz...@geekspace.com wrote:
   (Oh, and: is there a better shorthand than PMP? I keep reading
   android pimps, and it just... doesn't sit right...)
 
PIMEED.[1]
 
  -- Ben
 
  [1] Portable Individual Media Experience Enablement Device.  Now
  available with Genuine People Personalities!  Only from Sirius
  Cybernetics Corporation!
 
 
 MID - Mobile Internet Device.  See SmartQ, CrunchTablet, even the Archos
 devices.
 
 PMP is a Portable Music Player.  Most MIDs can do music.
 
 If the Palm PDAs had WiFi, they'd qualify as MIDs. 

Which kind of proves that's not the right name for the category.  I
just call them tiny computers or portable computers.  And one day,
that will sound as strange as electronic computers does today.
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Re: Android PMPs (was: Qi-Hardware Nanonote group purchase?)

2010-09-09 Thread Lloyd Kvam
On Thu, 2010-09-09 at 09:00 -0400, Tom Buskey wrote:
 I'm not sure I'll ever buy a $400 tablet.

I agree with that sentiment for myself.  We have an iPad here on loan to
make sure the web sites we support display nicely.  The iPad is a great
device for those folks who have trouble with regular mouse/keyboard
interfaces.

We expect to see iPads getting used by patients in hospital settings
filling out forms (multiple choice - little or no typing).  Earlier
attempts with other tablets (running Windows) proved unworkable.

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Re: Android PMPs (was: Qi-Hardware Nanonote group purchase?)

2010-09-09 Thread Benjamin Scott
On Thu, Sep 9, 2010 at 9:10 AM, David Rysdam da...@rysdam.org wrote:
 I just call them tiny computers or portable computers.

  If I'm being serious, I call them handhelds.  (I kind of liked
palmtop (by analogy with desktop and laptop) but it never took off
and so sounds funny.)

  I would usually make a distinction between something like my Palm
Centro (which is a general-purpose computer which can play music) and
an early-generation iPod (which can only play music).  The former is a
handheld computer, the later is a music player.

-- Ben

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Re: Android PMPs (was: Qi-Hardware Nanonote group purchase?)

2010-09-09 Thread Benjamin Scott
On Thu, Sep 9, 2010 at 9:56 AM, Lloyd Kvam pyt...@venix.com wrote:
 We expect to see iPads getting used by patients in hospital settings
 filling out forms (multiple choice - little or no typing).  Earlier
 attempts with other tablets (running Windows) proved unworkable.

  I'm curious; what makes the iPad better for that than the 'doze
tablet?  I would think a form is a form, regardless of platform.

  (I've only used an iPad once briefly, in a store.  I thought it
seemed like a neat toy, but couldn't see myself spending $400 just to
play an electronic marble maze game.)

-- Ben

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Re: Android PMPs

2010-09-09 Thread Joshua Judson Rosen
Tom Buskey t...@buskey.name writes:

 On Wed, Sep 8, 2010 at 11:05 PM, Benjamin Scott dragonh...@gmail.comwrote:
 
  On Wed, Sep 8, 2010 at 10:43 PM, Joshua Judson Rosen
  roz...@geekspace.com wrote:
   (Oh, and: is there a better shorthand than PMP? I keep reading
   android pimps, and it just... doesn't sit right...)
 
PIMEED.[1]
 
  -- Ben
 
  [1] Portable Individual Media Experience Enablement Device.  Now
  available with Genuine People Personalities!  Only from Sirius
  Cybernetics Corporation!

 MID - Mobile Internet Device.  See SmartQ, CrunchTablet, even the Archos
 devices.
 
 PMP is a Portable Music Player.  Most MIDs can do music.

Seems like the market is big on synecdoche, right now--pick one
random capability, and name the device by it. It's like people
just can't handle the notion of `portable computer' yet.

I remember someone being dumbfounded by the sight of a Nokia tablet,
last year, apparently having difficulty with it not being a smartphone.
The guy trying to explain it to him seemed just as dumbfounded,
struggling to find any kind of straightforward terminology for it--
eventually settling on: It's a computer. It's basically a very tiny laptop.

When I went into Radio Shack to buy an Archos 5, last night,
the salesguy there said:

Nobody *ever* buys that GPS--it's got way too many extra features.

D'oh.


 If the Palm PDAs had WiFi, they'd qualify as MIDs.

Turnabout: what does my *netbook* qualify as, if it *doesn't* have Wi-Fi?


 They may not have had the functionality of today's Android devices,
 but they got the price point.  I'm not sure I'll ever buy a $400
 tablet.

The smaller ones are more like $100. http://www.archos.com/ says that
even the 10.1 one is `less than $300'; but maybe that's what you mean--
`I'm not sure I'll ever even *see* an Android tablet as expensive as $400'?

(I don't remember how Palm Pilots were priced, back in the day...)

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Re: Android PMPs

2010-09-09 Thread Joshua Judson Rosen
David Rysdam da...@rysdam.org writes:

 An agent or agents purporting to be Tom Buskey said:
   On Wed, Sep 8, 2010 at 10:43 PM, Joshua Judson Rosen
   roz...@geekspace.com wrote:
   
(Oh, and: is there a better shorthand than PMP? I keep reading
android pimps, and it just... doesn't sit right...)
[...]
  MID - Mobile Internet Device.  See SmartQ, CrunchTablet, even the Archos
  devices.
  
  PMP is a Portable Music Player.  Most MIDs can do music.
  
  If the Palm PDAs had WiFi, they'd qualify as MIDs. 
 
 Which kind of proves that's not the right name for the category.

Yes.

 I just call them tiny computers or portable computers.  And one
 day, that will sound as strange as electronic computers does
 today.

Looking back..., I think they were actually called palmtops
(or palmtop computers, if you like longhand) when they were
first introduced in the late 1980s.

Maybe we can try that, again.

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Re: Android PMPs

2010-09-09 Thread Joshua Judson Rosen
Benjamin Scott dragonh...@gmail.com writes:
 On Thu, Sep 9, 2010 at 9:56 AM, Lloyd Kvam pyt...@venix.com wrote:
 
  We expect to see iPads getting used by patients in hospital settings
  filling out forms (multiple choice - little or no typing).  Earlier
  attempts with other tablets (running Windows) proved unworkable.
 
   I'm curious; what makes the iPad better for that than the 'doze
 tablet?  I would think a form is a form, regardless of platform.

Dunno about iPads, but I tried to use one of the Windows touchscreen
computers when I was at Best Buy, a couple weeks back--I think it was
an HP `TouchSmart'..., and all I can remember about the experience
is that it was something that I didn't want to remember.

   (I've only used an iPad once briefly, in a store.  I thought it
 seemed like a neat toy, but couldn't see myself spending $400 just to
 play an electronic marble maze game.)

Oh, is *that* where Tom's $400 figure came from?

I have to admit that I haven't been paying much attention to the iPad--
there are too many things that are actually new or interesting (or both!)
on the market, competing for attention ;)

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Using Python to encode cassette recordings (David Beazely)

2010-09-09 Thread Bill Sconce
From the Sometimes-We-Didn't-Even-Have-1s Dept., a tour de force on
David Beazely's blog about encoding Kansas City Standard audio using
Python and Matplotlib. To drive a Superbooard II...you remember them,
don't you?

On many old machines, cassette output is encoded using something
called the Kansas City Standard. It's a pretty simple encoding.
A 0 is encoded as 4 cycles of a 1200 Hz sine wave and a 1 is 
encoded as 8 cycles of a 2400 Hz sine wave. 
  [...]
Python has a built-in module for reading WAV files. Combined with
Matplotlib you can easily view the waveform.
   import wave
   [6 more lines of Python]
Waveform plot (!)
  
  [...much more...no kidding...pix...LOAD on the Superboard II...]

http://dabeaz.blogspot.com/2010/08/using-python-to-encode-cassette.html

_
P.S.  He ends with:
The power of Python never ceases to amaze me--once again a problem
that seems like it might be hard is solved with a short script using
nothing more than a single built-in library module and some basic
data manipulation. Next on the agenda: A Python script to decode WAV
files back into text files.

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Re: Android PMPs (was: Qi-Hardware Nanonote group purchase?)

2010-09-09 Thread Tom Buskey
On Thu, Sep 9, 2010 at 9:56 AM, Lloyd Kvam pyt...@venix.com wrote:

 On Thu, 2010-09-09 at 09:00 -0400, Tom Buskey wrote:
  I'm not sure I'll ever buy a $400 tablet.

 I agree with that sentiment for myself.  We have an iPad here on loan to
 make sure the web sites we support display nicely.  The iPad is a great
 device for those folks who have trouble with regular mouse/keyboard
 interfaces.

 We expect to see iPads getting used by patients in hospital settings
 filling out forms (multiple choice - little or no typing).  Earlier
 attempts with other tablets (running Windows) proved unworkable.


My Dr.'s office has been using TabletPCs  since 2000.   It's fantastic when
he can look up all my records to see a graph of my cholesterol.

He has a custom Family Practice suite behind it all, I'm sure.  It works
very well for him.
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Re: Android PMPs (was: Qi-Hardware Nanonote group purchase?)

2010-09-09 Thread Tom Buskey
On Thu, Sep 9, 2010 at 10:34 AM, Lloyd Kvam lk...@venix.com wrote:

 On Thu, 2010-09-09 at 10:08 -0400, Benjamin Scott wrote:
  On Thu, Sep 9, 2010 at 9:56 AM, Lloyd Kvam pyt...@venix.com wrote:
   We expect to see iPads getting used by patients in hospital settings
   filling out forms (multiple choice - little or no typing).  Earlier
   attempts with other tablets (running Windows) proved unworkable.
 
I'm curious; what makes the iPad better for that than the 'doze
  tablet?  I would think a form is a form, regardless of platform.

 Essentially the touch features were bolted on.  The issues were dumb
 things such as the touch area of a radio button being too small - still
 sized for a mouse pointer.  It was easy for your finger to miss it.
 There was poor alignment between the touch sensitive spot and the screen
 image.  Screen size handling still depended on the menus or touching the
 drag boundaries exactly right.  I've heard that Win7 has improved the
 touch support, but I have not checked myself.  The folks at the medical
 school are Apple fans anyway so once the iPad proved to be a nice
 device, I don't think they saw any point in checking back on the Windows
 tablets.  (I have no Droid experience.)


Microsoft really missed out on the tablet market.  OneNote is a fantastic
pen enabled, note taking app.  But everything else seems like they bolted it
on.  MS Office had a chance to really integrate Pen, but the director didn't
like tablets.  You think having your CEO as a big proponent of Pen would've
been incentive.  Also, Windows TabletPCs seem way too expensive.



(I've only used an iPad once briefly, in a store.  I thought it
  seemed like a neat toy, but couldn't see myself spending $400 just to
  play an electronic marble maze game.)

 True.

 Still people buy digital picture frames, book readers, and such.  The
 iPad is great at *all* of those kinds of uses.


FWIW - I have a SmartQ 7 MID (no keyboard).  It runs a customized Ubuntu.  I
can apt-get debian and Ubuntu for ARM packages.  Some dialog boxes run off
the screen (800x480).  An Xterm goes under the virtual keyboard (matchbox).
For the most part, it works decently w/ the pen.  Nothing like an
iPhone/IPad or Palm.  I've heard updates to the OS (firmware) or to Android
work better on the SmartQ.  I'd imagine stock Ubuntu/Fedora would have
issues with dialogs on a screen that isn't 1024x768 (netbooks) too.

I mainly wanted a color ebook reader (comics) with some web browsing.  The
SmartQ was ~$220 and it fits.  There will be a number of Android Tablets RSN
that will be better and hopefully as cheap.
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Re: Android PMPs (was: Qi-Hardware Nanonote group purchase?)

2010-09-09 Thread Ryan Lee Stanyan
On Thursday, September 09, 2010 12:59:40 pm Tom Buskey wrote:
 On Thu, Sep 9, 2010 at 9:56 AM, Lloyd Kvam pyt...@venix.com wrote:
  On Thu, 2010-09-09 at 09:00 -0400, Tom Buskey wrote:
   I'm not sure I'll ever buy a $400 tablet.
  
  I agree with that sentiment for myself.  We have an iPad here on loan to
  make sure the web sites we support display nicely.  The iPad is a great
  device for those folks who have trouble with regular mouse/keyboard
  interfaces.
  
  We expect to see iPads getting used by patients in hospital settings
  filling out forms (multiple choice - little or no typing).  Earlier
  attempts with other tablets (running Windows) proved unworkable.
 
 My Dr.'s office has been using TabletPCs  since 2000.   It's fantastic when
 he can look up all my records to see a graph of my cholesterol.
 
 He has a custom Family Practice suite behind it all, I'm sure.  It works
 very well for him.

This seems to be a very good application for slate computers.  Instead of 
bringing in a huge folder of charts which I can only assume are originals, you 
could bring in a slate.  Although I can only imagine issues arising from 
sanitation and HIPPA compliance.
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Re: Android PMPs (was: Qi-Hardware Nanonote group purchase?)

2010-09-09 Thread Lloyd Kvam
On Thu, 2010-09-09 at 12:59 -0400, Tom Buskey wrote:
 It works very well for him. 

The tablets we tried could be mastered with a little practice, but they
were frustrating when simply handed out to Grandpa.  An interviewer
was required to drive the tablet.

The iPad seems to just work for anyone.  We'll see what happens when
they actually start using iPads for real.

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Re: Widget to manipulate parallel port signals ?

2010-09-09 Thread Michael ODonnell


I wrote:
 Anybody know of a (commandline or GUI) utility that I could use to
 wiggle/sense the individual data/control lines of a parallel port?

...and got these responses:

   http://pyserial.sourceforge.net/pyparallel.html

  Sounded very appealing to me (partly because it'd serve as
  another excuse to learn more Python) but the blurb on that
  WWW page makes reference to some archive that apparently
  doesn't exist.

   http://centerclick.org/temp/lcd.tgz

  Some home-grown tools written by Dave Johnson.  The entire
  collection compiled easily and the lcdraw tool worked well
  enough for my purposes - I didn't try any of the others.

   http://www.epanorama.net/circuits/portcontrol/portcontrol.c

  I did not try this as the source codes indicate that it
  invokes ioperm() and then engages in direct manipulation of
  some hardcoded I/O ports from user space, something I was
  avoiding as not flexible enough for my purposes.

   http://parashell.sourceforge.net/

  I did not get around to trying this.

My thanks to all.
 
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Re: Widget to manipulate parallel port signals ?

2010-09-09 Thread Bill Sconce
On Wed, 08 Sep 2010 17:07:04 -0400
Michael ODonnell michael.odonn...@comcast.net wrote:

  One possibility might be pyparallel.
 
 Thanks.  Forgive me for appearing stoopid; the Installation instructions
 on that page say, Extract files from the archive, open a shell/console
 in that directory and let Distutils do the rest, which sounds very nice
 but I'm not sure what archive they're referring to.

It's not you. Let Distutils do the rest is NOT user-friendly, and it's
their fault for falling into what's essentially an RTFM attitude. They
assume you know all about setup.py, etc. I apologize. I don't like that
part of the Python culture very much myself.

I pulled down the source tree, built it, and saw that import pyparallel
works. (The import statement! I didn't try actually toggling register
bits -- there's a working printer attached to that parallel port.  :)

I imagine for the moment that Dave Johnson's lcdraw.c is going to be
what you want. But I'll be happy to help (I'd be curious about it 
myself) if you want to pursue pyserial/pyparallel further.

-Bill

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because of the length, but if someone wants to find it later this is
a better place.

Summary:
$ svn co https://pyserial.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/pyserial pyserial
$ cd pyserial/trunk/pyparallel
$ sudo python setup.py install
$ python
Python 2.7 (r27:82500, Jul 18 2010, 13:03:24)
[GCC 4.1.3 20070929 (prerelease) (Ubuntu 4.1.2-16ubuntu2)] on linux2
Type help, copyright, credits or license for more information.
 import parallel
 dir(parallel)
['IEEE1284_ADDR', 'IEEE1284_DATA', 'IEEE1284_DEVICEID', 'IEEE1284_EXT_LINK', 'IE
EE1284_MODE_BECP', 'IEEE1284_MODE_BYTE', 'IEEE1284_MODE_COMPAT', 'IEEE1284_MODE_
ECP', 'IEEE1284_MODE_ECPRLE', 'IEEE1284_MODE_ECPSWE', 'IEEE1284_MODE_EPP', 'IEEE
1284_MODE_EPPSL', 'IEEE1284_MODE_EPPSWE', 'IEEE1284_MODE_NIBBLE', 'IOCSIZE_MASK'
, 'IOCSIZE_SHIFT', 'IOC_IN', 'IOC_INOUT', 'IOC_OUT', 'PARPORT_CONTROL_AUTOFD', '
PARPORT_CONTROL_INIT', 'PARPORT_CONTROL_SELECT', 'PARPORT_CONTROL_STROBE', 'PARP
ORT_EPP_FAST', 'PARPORT_STATUS_ACK', 'PARPORT_STATUS_BUSY', 'PARPORT_STATUS_ERRO
R', 'PARPORT_STATUS_PAPEROUT', 'PARPORT_STATUS_SELECT', 'PARPORT_W91284PIC', 'PP
CLAIM', 'PPCLRIRQ', 'PPDATADIR', 'PPEXCL', 'PPFCONTROL', 'PPGETFLAGS', 'PPGETMOD
E', 'PPGETMODES', 'PPGETPHASE', 'PPGETTIME', 'PPNEGOT', 'PPRCONTROL', 'PPRDATA',
 'PPRELEASE', 'PPRSTATUS', 'PPSETFLAGS', 'PPSETMODE', 'PPSETPHASE', 'PPSETTIME',
 'PPWCONTROL', 'PPWCTLONIRQ', 'PPWDATA', 'PPYIELD', 'PP_FASTREAD', 'PP_FASTWRITE
', 'PP_FLAGMASK', 'PP_IOCTL', 'PP_MAJOR', 'PP_W91284PIC', 'Parallel', 'VERSION',
 '__builtins__', '__doc__', '__file__', '__name__', '__package__', '__path__', '
fcntl', 'i386', 'linux', 'os', 'parallelppdev', 'sizeof', 'string', 'struct', 's
ys', 'unix']


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laura$ new /tmp/pyserial/
laura$ mkdir -p /tmp/pyserial/; cd /tmp/pyserial/
laura$ svn co https://pyserial.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/pyserial pyserial
Error validating server certificate for 'https://pyserial.svn.sourceforge.net:44
3':
 - The certificate is not issued by a trusted authority. Use the
   fingerprint to validate the certificate manually!
Certificate information:
 - Hostname: *.svn.sourceforge.net
 - Valid: from Mon, 04 Jan 2010 15:21:55 GMT until Sat, 05 Feb 2011 10:03:23 GMT
 - Issuer: Equifax Secure Certificate Authority, Equifax, US
 - Fingerprint: ea:d1:3e:01:cc:16:e9:9b:c2:ab:4b:0c:cc:26:5f:25:78:ea:89:b4
(R)eject, accept (t)emporarily or accept (p)ermanently? t
Apyserial/trunk
Apyserial/trunk/pyparallel
Apyserial/trunk/pyparallel/LICENSE.txt
Apyserial/trunk/pyparallel/CHANGES.txt
Apyserial/trunk/pyparallel/MANIFEST
Apyserial/trunk/pyparallel/setup.py
Apyserial/trunk/pyparallel/src
Apyserial/trunk/pyparallel/src/win32
Apyserial/trunk/pyparallel/src/win32/giveio
Apyserial/trunk/pyparallel/src/win32/giveio/GIVEIO.C
Apyserial/trunk/pyparallel/src/win32/giveio/SOURCES
Apyserial/trunk/pyparallel/src/win32/giveio/README.TXT
Apyserial/trunk/pyparallel/src/win32/giveio/MAKEFILE
Apyserial/trunk/pyparallel/src/win32/simpleio.c
Apyserial/trunk/pyparallel/src/win32/remove_giveio.bat
Apyserial/trunk/pyparallel/src/win32/_pyparallel.c
Apyserial/trunk/pyparallel/src/win32/README.txt
Apyserial/trunk/pyparallel/src/win32/simpleio.dll
Apyserial/trunk/pyparallel/src/win32/install_giveio.bat
Apyserial/trunk/pyparallel/src/win32/loaddrv_console
Apyserial/trunk/pyparallel/src/win32/loaddrv_console/loaddrv.h
Apyserial/trunk/pyparallel/src/win32/loaddrv_console/loaddrv.c
Apyserial/trunk/pyparallel/src/win32/loaddrv_console/makefile
Apyserial/trunk/pyparallel/src/win32/makefile
Apyserial/trunk/pyparallel/README.txt
Apyserial/trunk/pyparallel/parallel
Apyserial/trunk/pyparallel/parallel/parallelutil.py
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Re: Android PMPs (was: Qi-Hardware Nanonote group purchase?)

2010-09-09 Thread Tom Buskey
On Thu, Sep 9, 2010 at 2:07 PM, Ryan Lee Stanyan ryan.stan...@gmail.comwrote:

 On Thursday, September 09, 2010 12:59:40 pm Tom Buskey wrote:
  On Thu, Sep 9, 2010 at 9:56 AM, Lloyd Kvam pyt...@venix.com wrote:
   On Thu, 2010-09-09 at 09:00 -0400, Tom Buskey wrote:
I'm not sure I'll ever buy a $400 tablet.
  
   I agree with that sentiment for myself.  We have an iPad here on loan
 to
   make sure the web sites we support display nicely.  The iPad is a great
   device for those folks who have trouble with regular mouse/keyboard
   interfaces.
  
   We expect to see iPads getting used by patients in hospital settings
   filling out forms (multiple choice - little or no typing).  Earlier
   attempts with other tablets (running Windows) proved unworkable.
 
  My Dr.'s office has been using TabletPCs  since 2000.   It's fantastic
 when
  he can look up all my records to see a graph of my cholesterol.
 
  He has a custom Family Practice suite behind it all, I'm sure.  It
 works
  very well for him.

 This seems to be a very good application for slate computers.  Instead of
 bringing in a huge folder of charts which I can only assume are originals,
 you
 could bring in a slate.  Although I can only imagine issues arising from
 sanitation and HIPPA compliance.


Well, it's a Family Practice office, not a Surgery room.  Sanitation is the
same as for the clipboard  folders he used to use 10 years ago.  It's
probably cleaner then the folders were.

For HIPPA, it's the same as any other computer on the network in his
office.  He doesn't have access to records in the parent hospital.
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Re: Widget to manipulate parallel port signals ?

2010-09-09 Thread Lloyd Kvam
On Thu, 2010-09-09 at 14:50 -0400, Michael ODonnell wrote:
 
http://pyserial.sourceforge.net/pyparallel.html
 
   Sounded very appealing to me (partly because it'd serve as
   another excuse to learn more Python) 

I'm not sure what went wrong for you.
http://pyserial.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/pyserial/trunk/pyparallel/parallel/?view=tar

I attached the download (I grabbed it out of curiosity).  It looks like
it is still getting updated: touched Aug 30, 2010.

I have used pyserial in the past and found it to be very helpful.  I did
a lot of serial (RS485, RS422) programming in C 20 years ago.  pyserial
provided a nice interface when I needed to dust off serial skills 6 or 7
years ago.

I don't have a real parallel interface to test against, but simply
looked at the code out of a sense of nostalgia.  If the other code
proves problematic, you can fall back on pyparallel.

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Re: Widget to manipulate parallel port signals ?

2010-09-09 Thread Lloyd Kvam
On Thu, 2010-09-09 at 17:28 -0400, Lloyd Kvam wrote:
 On Thu, 2010-09-09 at 14:50 -0400, Michael ODonnell wrote:
  
 http://pyserial.sourceforge.net/pyparallel.html
  
Sounded very appealing to me (partly because it'd serve as
another excuse to learn more Python) 
 
 I'm not sure what went wrong for you.
 http://pyserial.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/pyserial/trunk/pyparallel/parallel/?view=tar
 
 I attached the download (I grabbed it out of curiosity).  It looks like
 it is still getting updated: touched Aug 30, 2010.

Sorry about cluttering your in boxes with an extraneous attachment.  I
thought I was sending the email to Michael and not the whole list.


Another few years and I won't even be trusted to drive an iPad ;)

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Broadcom to (finally!) make their wireless drivers FOSS?

2010-09-09 Thread Michael ODonnell

Just got wind of this via osnews.com:

   http://article.gmane.org/gmane.linux.kernel.wireless.general/55418
 
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Re: Broadcom to (finally!) make their wireless drivers FOSS?

2010-09-09 Thread Jarod Wilson
On Thu, Sep 9, 2010 at 8:49 PM, Michael ODonnell
michael.odonn...@comcast.net wrote:

 Just got wind of this via osnews.com:

   http://article.gmane.org/gmane.linux.kernel.wireless.general/55418

No question about it, the code is already merged in the linux-next
staging tree by Greg Kroah-Hartman. They're even trying to get the
firmware image for it into Dave Woodhouse's linux-firmware tree
(though have hit some snags due to a very quirkily worded license
agreement on it, so back to the drawing board for a moment on that).

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