[GNHLUG] Reminder: ManchLUG, Tuesday June 19th. Marc Nozell on Raspberry Pi

[kenta]

Reminder, meeting later today:

On Wed, Jun 13, 2012 at 10:18 PM, kenta  wrote:

> Join us on Tuesday June 19th for ManchLUG!
>
> During this month's meeting Marc Nozell will be talking about his
> experiences with Raspberry Pi.  If you're interested in this
> new, $35.00, single board computer platform, stop on by! Have one
> yourself? Share what you've been doing (or plan to do) with your new board.
>
> Schedule:
> 6:30 PM - Pre-meeting social. If you're ordering food, please try to do so
> before the start of the presentation.
>
> 7:00 - 8:30 PM Meeting kick-off followed immediately by Marc Nozell's
> show-n-tell on Raspberry Pi
>
> Location:
> The Farm
> 1181 Elm St.
> Manchester, NH (corner of Elm and Bridge in downtown Manchester)
>
> When you enter The Farm go to the left side of the restaurant and locate
> the small function room or ask the hostess for assistance
>
> Parking:
> Parking in downtown Manchester is enforced between 8AM - 8PM, however the
> metered spaces in front of The Farm on Elm Street and the lot behind The
> Farm are free after 5:30PM. For further details:
>
> http://www.manchesternh.gov/website/Departments/Parking/tabid/182/Default.aspx
>
> Feel free to RSVP on Facebook:
> https://www.facebook.com/events/485905318092605
>
> You can also find the Manchester Linux Users group:
> @ManchLUG on twitter.com
> @ManchLUG on identi.ca
>
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Re: StatusNet, anyone?

[Brian St. Pierre]

Thanks for the detailed response. I guess I'm going to have to play 
around with this a bit.

On 06/18/2012 12:00 PM, Joshua Judson Rosen wrote:
> "Brian St. Pierre"  writes:
>> I used facebook for a while but deleted my profile. (Some key friends
>> have also deleted profiles, so the utility that *was* there has fallen
>> way off.) I liked the ability to see pix of friends' kids and stuff
>> like that. Didn't like the games&  spammy stuff.
>
> Are these `friends with cute kids' all just floating around with nowhere
> to post that stuff, now that they've left Facebook? Or, what are they
> using?

It's fractured. Some people email, some use other photo-sharing (eg 
shutterfly). Some people send dead trees via snail mail. Some have gone 
dark. Some are still on facebook, but since *I'm* not there I don't get 
the updates. Some people I was never really close enough 
(friends-of-friends, we've met a few times at parties, etc) to that we'd 
go to the effort of intentionally emailing each other with photos & 
updates, but the semi-promiscuous FOAF-level sharing on facebook was 
mutually interesting. I think a couple of geek friends have their own 
self-hosted photo albums, but I don't necessarily have an easy mechanism 
for seeing/discovering their new stuff.

-Brian
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Re: StatusNet, anyone?

[Joshua Judson Rosen]

"Brian St. Pierre"  writes:
>
> On 06/17/2012 12:13 AM, Joshua Judson Rosen wrote:
> > What I will say, and maybe people will notice something in the phrasing...,
> > is that you're all welcome to sign up on identi.ca,
> > and follow me on status.hackerposse.com.
>
> Thanks for the phrasing of that pointer. It looks like it has support
> for private groups. Is it something like what I've seen google's
> "circles" described as? (I don't use google's social thing.)

The most natural analogy for me is that groups in StatusNet are like
mailing-lists in e-mail. You subscribe to the group, and anything posted
to the group shows up in your timeline. Public groups are like
mailing-lists with public archives: anyone can join, and non-members
don't receive the group's notices in their timelines, but messages
posted to a public group are themselves `public' by default so anyone
can see them in the group's public timeline. You can explicitly mark
a message as `private' when you post it, though, which means that
it's hidden from the public timelines (or `excluded from public archives',
in e-mail list terms).

Private messages posted to a person are visible only to that person
(and, obviously, only when the person is logged in).

Private messages that *aren't* posted specifically *to* anyone
(e.g.: either to a user or a group) are private to the *site*,
meaning that anyone with an account there can see them,
but they have to be logged in. This might be useful, say, if you
wanted to run a StatusNet site for your family, where you have
`family newsletter' stuff that you want to want to share with
everyone in your tribe but not with outsiders, but you all
still get the opportunity to follow news-sources outside the family
and relay it to, or comment on it within the safe confines of, your tribe.

Private messages posted to a group are visible only if you're logged
into the site *and* you're a member of the group.

Private groups require people trying to join to be approved before they
become members, and messages sent to a private group are automatically
flagged as private to the group, so that users have to be logged into
the site and be a member of the group in order to see them at all.


You can also just `make the whole site private', such that the only thing
that outsiders can ever see is the `login: ...' page. That's what you get
if you sign up for a `private statusnet site' by plugging your e-mail
address into . The caveat for that, is that it
prevents the site from federating with other sites.

> Is there support built-in for posting photos? Or would that require
> some add-on app/service?

You can attach photos/videos to posts, or link to ones hosted elsewhere,
and StatusNet will put a thumbnail into the post; e.g.:

http://status.hackerposse.com/notice/6463

> I used facebook for a while but deleted my profile. (Some key friends
> have also deleted profiles, so the utility that *was* there has fallen
> way off.) I liked the ability to see pix of friends' kids and stuff
> like that. Didn't like the games & spammy stuff.

Are these `friends with cute kids' all just floating around with nowhere
to post that stuff, now that they've left Facebook? Or, what are they
using?

> I'd like a way to share photos, an occasional short video, and
> status-y kind of stuff.
>
> That's all easy enough for *me* to do, but:
>
> (A) I don't want to post everything publicly.
> (B) I don't want to have to create accounts for friends & family to be
> able to see stuff behind a privacy wall. (E.g. private posts in
> WordPress) Partly because it's a hassle for me. Partly because it's a
> hassle for them, and certain friends & family are unlikely to use it,
> or will bug me to remind them how to log in every time something new
> is posted.

So you want something where your friends/family can login with accounts
that they already have from Facebook or something, right?

StatusNet has connectors for other sites, so that they can actually do
that--see for example:

https://identi.ca/main/facebooklogin

The barrier there is likely to be: getting them to believe you.

(though, I have had one person tell me: "I keep them separate because
 I don't want the people on Facebook to see what I post on identi.ca"...)

> (C) I'd ideally like a platform that allows posting by multiple users,
> with the same administrative constraints mentioned in (B).
>
> -Brian
> (PS status.hackerposse.com's git is 403)

Not if you pass the URL to *git*, it isn't. :)

There's really nothing inside http://status.hackerposse.com/.git
that you'd want to look at in your web-browser, anyway. It's just
a `bare' git repository--I'm not running gitweb or anything like that.

-- 
"Don't be afraid to ask (λf.((λx.xx) (λr.f(rr."

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Re: StatusNet, anyone?

[Brian St. Pierre]

On 06/17/2012 12:13 AM, Joshua Judson Rosen wrote:
> What I will say, and maybe people will notice something in the phrasing...,
> is that you're all welcome to sign up on identi.ca,
> and follow me on status.hackerposse.com.

Thanks for the phrasing of that pointer. It looks like it has support 
for private groups. Is it something like what I've seen google's 
"circles" described as? (I don't use google's social thing.)

Is there support built-in for posting photos? Or would that require some 
add-on app/service?

I used facebook for a while but deleted my profile. (Some key friends 
have also deleted profiles, so the utility that *was* there has fallen 
way off.) I liked the ability to see pix of friends' kids and stuff like 
that. Didn't like the games & spammy stuff.

I'd like a way to share photos, an occasional short video, and status-y 
kind of stuff.

That's all easy enough for *me* to do, but:

(A) I don't want to post everything publicly.
(B) I don't want to have to create accounts for friends & family to be 
able to see stuff behind a privacy wall. (E.g. private posts in 
WordPress) Partly because it's a hassle for me. Partly because it's a 
hassle for them, and certain friends & family are unlikely to use it, or 
will bug me to remind them how to log in every time something new is posted.
(C) I'd ideally like a platform that allows posting by multiple users, 
with the same administrative constraints mentioned in (B).

-Brian
(PS status.hackerposse.com's git is 403)
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