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[richard . soule]

Thanks for your email.

I'll be out of the office with limited access to email and voice mail from Oct 
6th through Oct 13th, but you can always just try to reach me on my cell phone 
at 512.289.4020.

If I'm unavailable please reach out to the Oracle TOLA SC team, either Ron 
Mayfield (ronald.mayfi...@oracle.com), Jerry Adams (jerry.ad...@oracle.com) or 
our manager, Rachael Wang (rachael.w...@oracle.com) should be able to assist 
you in my absence.

I look forward to working with you when I return to the office.

Thanks,

Rich
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Edward Screven Interview

[Richard Soule]

What happens when a multi-billion dollar corporation gets involved in Linux?

http://linux-foundation.org/weblogs/openvoices/edward-screven/

I thought folks might find some of the above interesting. If not, then 
please feel free to forget that you read it.

Rich
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Re: Repetitive strain injury

[Richard Soule]

Ben Scott wrote:
[snip]
> Proper posture is the most important thing, and next to
> that, simple wrist support (which might just involve moving your
> keyboard).

Or using a different keyboard. I had pain issues before I started using 
my Kinesis keyboard. http://www.kinesis-ergo.com/classic.htm

I now have no issues. With pain anyway.

> 
> -- Ben
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Re: OT: DirecTivo vs. 'New Direct TV DVR'?

[Richard Soule]

Thomas Charron wrote:
>  Are you connecting with the HDMI cable?  It's annoying, but it will
> only do 1080i UNLESS you use the HDMI.

Yeah, using HDMI. I'm not quite sure why HDMI is an issue? When you have 
a 1080p TV there really isn't that much difference between a 1080i 
signal and a 1080p signal anyway from what I hear. Everything looks great.

>> I'm really worried about switching to a new DVR as I'm terrified that
>> the UI is going to suck.
> 
> But the UI is supposed to be simular to the
> one on the normal HD receivers.  If that's the case, the UI isn't
> really that bad, but it's not good either.

I've got the new box now. The UI is good so far, I think.

The skip ahead 30 seconds feature does a fast forward for 30 seconds 
instead of a true skip. This is slightly annoying but I'm sure I'll get 
used to it. It might even be better as I can actually see when the 
commercial ends and the show starts. Sometimes with the old UI I'd end 
up skipping into a show by 30 seconds when I was right at the very end 
of the commercial before the show starts. Now I'll be able to see that 
I'm at the end of the commercial. This might be a wash.

The rewind feature is 6 seconds instead of 7 seconds. Total wash.

I'm not sure how the DVR is going to handle groups of programs. TiVo has 
folders, I'm really hoping I don't end up with a single big list as 
folders were nice. This one could be an issue.

I never used the thumbs up/thumbs down feature of the TiVo (I don't 
really want to watch more TV), so I'm not missing that.

Basically I'm going to say the new UI is good. Much better than the 
cable DVRs, but not quite as good as TiVo.

My comparison:

No DVR: Walking through a broken glass filled lot with no shoes.
Cable DVR: Like having flip flops on your feet. With holes in them.
DirecTV DVR: Like driving a Mustang through the lot.
DirecTiVo DVR: Like driving a Ferrari through the lot.

>  Must be nice to actually get some service from the farkers.

The schedule was from 9:00 am to 12:00. Around 9:30 the installer called 
me and let me know what his schedule was going to be. He said "I'll be 
there between 11:00 and 12:00 so if you want to go anywhere this morning 
feel free." He showed up at 11:00. He was done by 12:30. He was polite 
and showed me a thing or two about the new system. I guess he was happy 
that he didn't have to live in the frozen wasteland that is New England. ;
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OT: DirecTivo vs. 'New Direct TV DVR'?

[Richard Soule]

My 11 year old TV crapped out yesterday so I ended up picking up a 50" 
1080p Plasma (Panasonic TH50PZ700U).

Wow! HDTV is really good. Blu-ray through the PS3 is pretty amazing. The 
BBC version of Planet Earth on Blu-ray is one of the most amazing things 
I have ever seen on a TV.

That said when I called DirecTV to get HD channels (old TV wasn't HD) I 
was informed that DirecTV no longer has an agreement with TiVo and no 
longer offers DirecTivo. DirecTiVo is a combo box that combines all of 
the features of DirecTV with TiVo in one box. The UI rocks.

I'm really worried about switching to a new DVR as I'm terrified that 
the UI is going to suck.

Apparently DirecTV is moving from MPEG-2 to MPEG-4 or something and the 
HD DirecTiVo DVR that I purchased just a few years ago isn't compatible 
with the new MPEG-4 compression or something...

I've got the dude coming out tomorrow to set me up with the new box for 
$99. It's supposed to be $299, but apparently my long time subscription 
status is getting me a discount.

Here are the questions:

Has anyone on the list gone through this switch? Anyone using the 
DirecTV DVR? Any feedback on the system?

Anyone know if I'm getting ripped off? Should I really be paying for a 
new DVR when my old DVR is only 2 years old?

Thanks,

Rich
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Re: Dell Latitude D620 - any experiences?

[Richard Soule]

Scott,

I got a few responses and cut and paste them into this response, see in 
line below (again, these are not from me but from folks at Oracle who 
are using D620s with Linux):


Good luck!

Rich

Scott Garman wrote:

Richard Soule wrote:

Oracle uses the Dell Latitude D620 laptop internally. Quite a few of us
run Linux on it. Personally I use Linux within a VMWare VM quite
frequently on a D620. (One of the downsides of being in sales support is
the pervasive use of MS stuff that ends up not working that great on
Linux. On the other hand the pay is pretty good...) We also have folks
who use it day to day on the machine itself. We have something called
the 'Oracle Base Image' that installs Red Hat Linux with everything you
need to get your job done (theoretically) for a D620. It works very well
for folks in development.

If you have specific questions then I can ask them on an internal list
that we have.


Hi Rich,

Thanks for the reply. I'm interested in running Linux natively on it,
and my concerns are primarily with the typical annoyances of running
Linux on laptops: suspend to RAM, hibernate, and wireless support.

Even on my current Sony S260, which technically supports and works with
these functions, I tend to have frequent issues which require me to
reboot the laptop at least once per week:

* Wake from suspend freezes the system (no responsiveness from anything
at all, it's entirely locked up)
* NetworkManager refuses to associate with my network. It tries but
never finishes connecting. Repeated connection attempts don't fix the
problem.
* (probably related to the previous) - NetworkManager connects to my
network, and I can use the network for a minute or two, and then I
totally lose my network connection (NetworkManager still thinks I'm
connected, though). Other times I start getting massive packet loss.


A good place for linux on laptops is the following link, which you may 
have already looked at.

http://www.linux-on-laptops.com/dell.html
You will see commentary for Fedora, Ubuntu, Open SuSE, Debian, and others.

Ubuntu is not the latest version of code, but they have focused on 
laptop work a bit more of late.


In general laptops still suffer from the issues you raise above.  Power 
management (suspend/resume/hibernate) is still an issue, which Intel has 
contributed code to help in current upstream kernels, but the OEMs also 
need to work with the community on their docking station implementations 
to improve this.


Wifi - if your flavor of the Dell laptop has the Intel 3945 - you will 
need to hand tend it from sourceforge.net with all of the appropriate 
firmware, kernel, and daemon support from Intel. The upstream kernel has 
not accepted this solution at this time. The newer versions of Network 
Manager are getting better, but still need some work.


If I spring for a new laptop, I'm hoping to resolve some of these
issues. I'm an Ubuntu user, but people running the latest release of
Fedora would probably be able to tell if recent kernels support these
options reliably.

Also, I'd like to hear general impressions of how hot/loud the laptop
gets. I tried a Core2Duo Macbook recently and found it gets
uncomfortably hot to use on my lap for long periods of time, and was
wondering if the D620 is going to exhibit the same problem.


I ran a Thinkpad T60p with a Core2Duo proc, 2 G of RAM, and it was not 
any louder/hotter than my previous T30, T42, T43 running versions of 
Fedora Core 3 and 5.




Thanks so much for your time,

Scott



And finally:

Which distribution are you using? You can try Ubuntu Feisty, it works
well.

Reference: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LaptopTestingTeam/DellLatitudeD620
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Re: Dell Latitude D620 - any experiences?

[Richard Soule]

Scott Garman wrote:
> Is anyone here running Linux on a Dell Latitude D620 laptop? I'm
> seriously considering buying one and have some specific questions for
> someone currently using it.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Scott

Scott,

Oracle uses the Dell Latitude D620 laptop internally. Quite a few of us 
run Linux on it. Personally I use Linux within a VMWare VM quite 
frequently on a D620. (One of the downsides of being in sales support is 
the pervasive use of MS stuff that ends up not working that great on 
Linux. On the other hand the pay is pretty good...) We also have folks 
who use it day to day on the machine itself. We have something called 
the 'Oracle Base Image' that installs Red Hat Linux with everything you 
need to get your job done (theoretically) for a D620. It works very well 
for folks in development.


If you have specific questions then I can ask them on an internal list 
that we have.


Rich


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Re: [OT] From Texas to New Hampshire

[Richard Soule]

Travis Roy wrote:

Not to mention the condition of the house! :)


My friend's house was built in 2004 and is in great shape. :)

Housing costs are SUBSTANTIALLY lower in Austin (inside the city limits) 
than in Nashua, NH (inside the city limits). If you move outside the 
city limits in either area then costs go down, but they go down faster 
in Austin than in the Nashua area. There is more room in Texas. :)


If you can stand the winters in New England (which are probably milder 
than Wisconsin) then NH is a good place to live/work. I'd live there if 
it wasn't so cold.


The cold weather effects lots of things for me that just reduce quality 
of life. I drive my car on race tracks around TX year round, it would be 
hard to do that in NH. Cars last longer here than they do there. There 
are many folks who purchase 'extra' cars for winter driving. My friend 
has a Mustang GT which was parked for the winter in NH while he drove a 
very used Cavalier during the winter. He drove the Mustang to work today 
with the top down. :) It's 77 right now.


Rich
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Re: From Texas to New Hampshire

[Richard Soule]

R S wrote:

Hello, my name is Ross and I come to you from Austin, Texas.


I went exactly the other way, from Nashua NH to Austin TX (by way of Los 
Angeles and San Francisco). To me Austin is MUCH better than NH from a 
quality of life standpoint with the one exception being the GNHLUG 
folks. Of course I lived on a small tropical island in the South Pacific 
for 5 1/2 years so I can't stand the cold. While the heat in Austin is 
extreme, it's nothing compared to the cold in NH.



Secondly, where do you recommend a person move in NH who is looking

> for a modest cost of living?

I've got a friend who lived/worked in Nashua NH making about 60-70K. 
With that job he was able to purchase a garden style 'condo' which was 
really an old apartment building that had been converted into condos. It 
was on the ground floor (half windows on the top of the walls) and had 
no garage (which is a big deal with all the snow). He moved down to 
Austin less than one year ago and struggled for a while trying to find a 
job. Eventually he got a job with a small company but they are only 
paying him 35K. However with that job he is able to afford a 4 bedroom 
house with a one car garage on a 1/2 acre lot with a fenced in back yard.


If you like city life then I think that you will find housing to be much 
more expensive in NH than Austin. If you don't mind a longer commute 
(and remember snow can make a long commute much longer) than you should 
be able to find housing that is comparable to Austin.


I've got another friend in NH who is looking to move to Austin. He 
doesn't know much about Linux/Unix, but is in IT. If you guys do the 
evil empire stuff maybe you two could switch jobs...


Good luck on your quest! The GNHLUG folks are great. You'll find that 
GNHLUG is the greatest LUG in all of the US and probably the world! I 
miss them quite a bit.


Rich
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Re: [OFF-TOPIC] Language, logic, and such

[Richard Soule]

Fred wrote:
[snip]
I truly need more time. More *lifetimes* in particular. 


More lifetimes granted:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polyphasic_sleep

http://pure-doxyk.livejournal.com/229675.html

Rich
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Re: linux world inquiry about "access" for Linux

[Richard Soule]

* Warning - Talk about free commercial software below. Don't read if 
this offends you! *


While not open source, Oracle has a free version of it's database 
(Oracle XE) that includes something called Oracle Application Express 
(APEX). APEX can do all the things that Access does and was built to 
allow Access developers the ability to do what they do (build 
applications pretty quickly without a lot of understanding of 
complicated database concepts) on Oracle instead of on MS.


APEX is included with every version of Oracle.

Oracle XE is free to develop, deploy and distribute. Whatever the size 
of the machine it is installed on it will only use 1 processor and 1 GB 
of memory and can hold a limit of 4 GB of data, but other than that it's 
Oracle 10g.


Rich

APEX:
http://www.oracle.com/technology/products/database/application_express/index.html

Oracle XE:
http://www.oracle.com/technology/products/database/xe/index.html

Thomas Charron wrote:

  The largest difference is that Access each application is self 
contained.  Aka, no real database dependecy besides MSJET, which is 
distributed with windows itself.


  Thomas

On 9/23/06, Python <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote:

While I was at the GNHLUG booth, a couple stopped by to ask about a
Linux equivalent to Microsoft Access.  We looked at the ooffice database
module, but I was not very successful in attempting to drive it.  No one
else at the booth then had any thing else to suggest.

I just installed rekall (2.4.3 onto Fedora 5) and was quickly able to
use it with a MySQL database.  It appears to offer a lot of the kinds of
things (queries, forms, reports, macros, scripts) that Access provides.
I don't know if rekall would satisfy someone with Access applications to
port to Linux, but it seems to be a step in that direction.

--
Lloyd Kvam
Venix Corp

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Re: Speed of Java (was: Linux on old laptop in two stages)

[Richard Soule]

Ben Scott wrote:

>  My measurement is qualitative, not quantitative.  Everything that
> uses Java that I've ever encountered on any machine takes a long time
> to start and uses up gobs and gobs of memory, regardless of how
> trivial the program.  Interactive programs all have a somewhat
> unresponsive UI, and go non-responsive for seconds at a time at
> seemingly random intervals.

I use Oracle JDeveloper (free as in beer: 
http://www.oracle.com/technology/products/jdev/index.html) quite a bit 
and I've not noticed the problems that you have other than taking a 
'long time' to start, maybe... Certainly no more than any other very 
large and  sophisticated IDE. JDeveloper is written in Java.


JDeveloper includes a code profiler that will help you write better Java 
code. When the developers finished the code profiler they ran the 
JDeveloper product code through the profiler and got a pretty noticeable 
improvement in performance.


There are more than 6000 Oracle Applications (Oracle Applications, 
Siebel, PeopleSoft, and a bunch of other companies we've acquired over 
the years) developers at Oracle who are using JDeveloper and they all 
want their tools to run fast. They wouldn't be happy with the kind of 
performance that you describe below.


Not only that, but the developers who write the other tools at Oracle 
(Portal, XML Publisher, BPEL Designer, etc.) all use JDeveloper, many on 
Linux.


My own personal experience:

I've got a 1.6GHz Pentium laptop with 2GB of ram and I'm able to run the 
below in quite a usable manner:


Windows XP Professional base operating system
VMWare image with the following:
Windows XP Professional OS
Oracle Enterprise Edition 10g
Oracle Application Server Enterprise Edition 10g
Oracle BPEL Process Manager
Oracle JDeveloper

That's a LOT of software to run on a 2GB machine.

I've also run JDeveloper on a Linux VM running X and didn't notice the 
kind of performance you are describing below.


JDeveloper is a great big huge Java program that you can download for 
free... Want to give it a try and let us know what you think?


Rich

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Re: The truth about Linux

[Richard Soule]

I sent this on to my team at Oracle and CC'd my boss... his response:

"The scary thing is that this guy is serious."

That made my day even more!

Rich

Jon maddog Hall wrote:


Michael,

You made my day.  I can only imagine those guys at the 
"ShelleyTheRepublican.com"
site laughing at people who take them serious.

I looked at a few other "articles":

http://shelleytherepublican.com/2006/01/liberals-taste-of-their-own-medicine.html

The picture of the "liberal kids" who were "easy to spot" is precious.

Thanks for sending it my way.

maddog

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Re: Microsoft Says Recovery from Malware Becoming Impossible

[Richard Soule]

Ben Scott wrote:
> Ask the list about installing Oracle some time :)

Have you tried Oracle XE yet? I won't tell you it's easy, instead I'll 
point you to this on Developer.com:


http://www.developer.com/db/article.php/10920_3599691_1

We've been listening... And it's free: Free to download, free to use, 
and free to distribute. (Still not open source of course. Maybe someday.)


Rich
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Re: Laptop OS Virtualization?

[Richard Soule]

Add me to the VMWare crowd. I use it every time I do a demo. My laptop 
came from Oracle with WinXP on it, I run Linux, WinXP and Win2K Server 
VMs depending on which demo I want to run.


Sometimes running the WinXP VM with Oracle EE database, Oracle EE 
Application Server, Oracle BPEL Server, Oracle XML Publisher, Oracle 
Forms, Oracle Reports and Oracle Discoverer can be a bit slow. Generally 
we recommend putting that much software on more than one machine or at 
least one machine with more power than my laptop: Dell D600 1.6 MHz, 2GB 
Ram, 80 GB HD with 250GB USB drive to hold all the VMs (some of them are 
40+ GB in size).


VM 5.5 for me.

Rich

Ted Roche wrote:

Has anyone got multiple OSes running simultaneously on their personal  
machines? I've got a laptop I dual-boot between WinXPPro (client  work) 
and Linux (more client work, home & hobby), and I'd like to be  able to 
toggle between the two rather than a slow reboot.


Anyone doing this? What VM manager are you using? What host OS? Tips?  
Reviews? Pans? Warnings?


Ted "You've got answers? I've got questions!" Roche
Ted Roche & Associates, LLC
http://www.tedroche.com


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Re: FYI: Maddog article

[Richard Soule]

From the article:

So what makes you happy?

"Good friends. Enthusiastic students. Enthusiastic teachers. Warm sandy 
beaches."


Most definately there is something missing here: Beer!

Michael Costolo wrote:


Saw this linked from /. this AM:

http://www.computerworld.com.au/index.php/id;527801083;fp;2;fpid;4
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Is maddog around?

[Richard Soule]

I've left a message and sent an email to maddog last week but I lost my cell phone so I'm not sure if I'm using the right numbers...
 
Can someone send me his contact info (off list) and/or let me know if he is around (is he on the road without access to technology?)
 
Thanks,
 
Rich

Re: Help for moving off of Linux to NT is available!

[Richard Soule]

Randy Edwards wrote:
   I noted something similar when I looked at the site's business case page.  
They feature a graph of how many billions in revenues there were for various 
operating systems.  Well, from a customer's point of view, that's generally a 
*bad* thing -- you want the software company to be profitable enough to 
ensure support and them staying around, but the idea that the max revenue is 
the best thing is erroneous.


Realize that this site is really for ISVs who want to jack up their 
revenue instead of 'customers'.


Rich
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Help for moving off of Linux to NT is available!

[Richard Soule]

Apparently MS has lined up a bunch of folks to assist with the migration 
from Linux to MS: http://www.isvnxt.com/


What is NXT?

Overview & Benefits: NXT is a new end-to-end initiative specifically for 
ISVs with solutions driving over US$5 million in revenue who are ready 
to migrate or cross-platform to a Microsoft operating system or 
database. NXT can help lower your costs and reduce your time to market 
by getting the most from Microsoft technologies and the Microsoft 
Partner Program.

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Re: New Hampshire legislation to consider Open Source (adding a cross post to dlslug)

[Richard Soule]

Getting on the list can be difficult. Most states have a 'Statewide 
Contract' which means negotiating with the state purchasing folks. They 
often demand special concessions (you can never charge us more than you 
charge any other customer), access to internal sales information (so 
they know that they are getting 'the best price'), and generally make 
the process difficult. They are very tough negotiators and often make 
their initial demands totally unreasonable so that you just give up.


Some things that can help: Be a HUB (Historically Underutilized 
Business, usually women or minority owned with bonus points for being 
both), work with (subcontract to) someone who is already on both the 
approved vendors list and on the statewide contract, and finally have a 
bunch of contract lawyers and negotiators to handle the purchasing 
department. This being government you will also tend to get good mileage 
out of lobbyists (who generally are not cheap) and/or friendly 
politicians (who should be freely accessible, but lately have in the 
news for not being so freely accessible).


Good luck!

Rich

Bill McGonigle wrote:



On Jan 10, 2006, at 08:48, Python wrote:


However, I suspect another
issue is the RFP process commonly used for government purchases.  Many
open source projects have no sales or marketing arm to deal with an RFP.
Does anyone know if that really is an obstacle to getting open source to
be considered in government?



This may be a catch-22.   I've considered applying for the approved 
vendors list (there's a real name for that) but was told open source 
solutions aren't usually considered so I didn't.


-Bill

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Re: Now I've seen everything (OT-humor)...

[Richard Soule]

Thomas Charron wrote:
>   Article sure does say that, but the link they refer to lists a bunch
> of *END USERS* selling off THEIR invites, not Microsoft.

Do we know that those end users aren't MS Employees? That we be the best!

"Dude, I just wrote some buggy software for Billy. How much do you think 
I could get for it on EBay?"


Rich

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Re: passwd help...

[Richard Soule]

Bruce Dawson wrote:

Just keep typing the same password in. After about 2 consecutive tries
with the same password, it seems to figure out that you really do want
an unsecure password, and accepts it.


That worked!

Thanks Bruce (and Scott although Bruce's answer got here first)

Rich
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passwd help...

[Richard Soule]

For my day to day job I do a lot of software demos. Lately I've been 
using a Redhat system running in a VMWare image. I just got a new system 
that has some cool demos in it and I want to change all the passwords to 
be the same thing as the usernames. I realize this is going to shock a 
lot of folks, but it is a demo system and it is a VMWare instance, so I 
can always go back to the source VM if things get mucked up.


Right now when I type passwd I get:

Changing password for user root.
New UNIX password: (I type root here)
BAD PASSWORD: it is too short

etc.

For some reason all my google searches are telling me how to modify the 
LDAP directory and how to secure systems instead of making them 'unsecure'.


I know this goes against everything that everyone believes in, but can 
someone give me a quick and dirty way to set the root password to root 
and a user account password to the user name without having passwd barf?


(I think I'm asking how to shut off PAM.)


When you are in the throws of a demo it's sometimes hard to remember 
what the password is for a particular account. If you are using a GUI 
(web browser, X, etc.), it's very easy to copy and paste a username into 
a password field. When you have to type a username/password pair then 
you have the username already in your 'finger buffer' so it becomes very 
easy to type the password. Some of the software I demo takes a bit to do 
authentication and I like to turn away from the screen and talk about 
other things while I'm logging in. It's always a bummer to spend a 
minute or two talking to the crowd and then turn around expecting to see 
a great portal/web page and instead see: INVALID PASSWORD. Whatever 
point you were trying to make during that two minute segment was 
probably missed because folks in the crowd were saying "Hmmm, this guy 
can't even remember the passwords to his system, he probably has no idea 
what he is talking about..."



Thanks,

Rich
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Re: fork()

[Richard Soule]

When I worked at the Research Computing Center in Morse Hall we used to 
throw them at each other quite often. Of course that was about 10 years 
ago...


Rich

Ken D'Ambrosio wrote:


Good afternoon!  I've a story that shows I've been around computers a
wee bit too long, perhaps.  Back in the late 60's, I was a young 'un.
Very young, even -- like, 4.  And one of my favorite toys was, yes,
write protect rings for magtapes.  I *LOVED* those damn things.
[Wikipedia knows all, and has an image of some here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Write_protect_ring ]

Well, I'm due for a kid in March or so.

And I have no write protect rings.

I've E*Bay'd, and poked, and looked, and so forth... and it suddenly
occured to me that the people on this list would be more likely to know
where I could get, say, 50 of them, than just about anyone else.  I'll
even pay.

So: suggestions?

Thanks!

-Ken

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Re: PHP contact manager: who's got a favorite?

[Richard Soule]

Using a spreadsheet today and you'd like to have a web front end that 
works in any browser?


Oracle has the following:
http://otn.oracle.com/products/database/htmldb/viewlets/htmldb_quicktour_viewlet.html
(Above link is the 1.6 version, there is a new 2.0 version that has less 
steps.)


http://www.oracle.com/technology/products/database/htmldb/index.html

As always, all Oracle technology products are free for download from OTN 
for personal use. For 'at work' use we are now giving away our IDE 
(Oracle JDeveloper) in addition to supporting Eclipse.


Rich

Ken D'Ambrosio wrote:







I'm about to meet with an office that's currently "managing" their
contacts in Excel.  The person who's clued me into their problem,
sadly, has proposed Access as a solution -- something I'm not entirely
certain I agree with.  Regardless, if I don't have something better to
offer, I'll have to at least consider it.

But I *know* there are PHP contact managers out there -- the problem is
that there are so many!  Does anyone have recommendations for one they
really liked, or warnings about one not to use?

Thanks,

-Ken






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Re: howto demo website

[Richard Soule]

Greg Rundlett wrote:
Anybody have suggestions for good (free software) tools for recording 
and playing back a website demo?  I built an application that has a web 
frontend, and I want to record user interaction through the site so that 
I can do demonstrations of the application without requiring the live 
application.  Say for doing training, or documentation.


Not exactly free software, but...

Here at Oracle we use Qarbon Viewlet Builder. They do have a trial 
version which will place a watermark into the Viewlet. Depending on your 
audience that may or may not be acceptable. Viewlet Builder is supported 
on Linux. It generates to Flash which is also viewable on Linux. I've 
used it for a number of things and I've been very happy with it.


Some links:
http://www.qarbon.com/
http://www.qarbon.com/presentation-software/viewletbuilder/

Rich
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Re: The Daemon, The GNU, and the Penguin

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I'd buy a copy at $20 or less.

Rich


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Re: Database design question [was: free software alternative to Access]

[Richard Soule]

Paul,
You could try:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/customer-reviews/1558606726/ref=cm_cr_dp_2_1/103-8170352-9419859?%5Fencoding=UTF8&customer-reviews.sort%5Fby=-SubmissionDate&n=283155
Not sure about the above, but it seems highly rated (even though there 
are only 9 ratings).

All the books that I've liked over the years have been Oracle specific 
like this one:

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0072121203/qid=1113922379/sr=1-10/ref=sr_1_10/103-8170352-9419859?v=glance&s=books
WARNING!!! Discussion of software that costs money to use for business 
purposes follows!!!

At Oracle we've been working on a tool to 'replace access' (it's not 
really there yet, it's more powerful in many ways and less user friendly 
in some ways) for a number of years. I think I even showed a version of 
it years ago (8 years ago?) at UNH to the group once.  We now call the 
tool HTMLDB. It allows the development of applications with a web based 
front end against an Oracle database. It has some pretty nice features 
including the ability to copy a spreadsheet/access database into a form 
and have the tool automatically create tables (and lookup tables) for you.

I'm guessing that this is kind of similar to the PHP web admin tools 
that others were talking about before, but hopefully it is a bit more 
powerful.

HTMLDB on OTN:
http://www.oracle.com/technology/products/database/htmldb/index.html
Viewlet (flash) of HTMLDB in action:
http://otn.oracle.com/products/database/htmldb/viewlets/htmldb_quicktour_viewlet.html
As always you can download all Oracle software from 
http://otn.oralce.com for personal use without sending Oracle any money. 
(Here is the 'big daddy' of database design tools: 
http://www.oracle.com/technology/products/designer/index.html)

We've also come up with a very low price point for Oracle Standard 
Edition One: $750 for 5 users (5 user minimum, each additional user 
would be $150) or $5,000/cpu for unlimited users with a limit of 2 cpus 
to compete with other companies that offer low cost 'databases'. And of 
course databases from Oracle really are ANSI SQL compliant. :)

Rich
Paul Lussier wrote:
All this talk about databases reminded me of a project I was working
on a while back in which I had some fundamental database design
questions, but not the time to properly research the answers. (of
course, like all great projects driven by marketing, the immediate
crisis which prompted the project was quickly solved by "changing
direction" and subsequently resulted in them forgetting I was even
doing anything to help them :(
At any rate, I found myself trying to set up several tables for a
database, but realized, that in general, other than gluing the tables
together with basic SQL queries wrapped up in a spiffy perl CGI, I
know next to nothing about "proper database design". 

So, does anyone have any decent references or pointers to basic
relational database design?  I'm looking for something generic to SQL,
and not tied to any specific implementation.
Thanks.
 

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Re: Desktop Linux (fwd)

[Richard Soule]

Michael Costolo wrote:

  --- Richard Soule <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
  
  
Everquest, World of Warcraft, Halo, Call of Duty, Civilization, Grand 
Theft Auto, etc.
Games are a driving force in the home market. Saying that there are 
games for Linux
is accurate, but if you don't have the game that I want to play right 
now, then you
don't have a viable alternative for me.

  
  
Granted.  But what is your opinion of the game platforms like XBox, PlayStation,
etc.?  I believe they're common, relatively inexpensive, and it appears that there
is no dearth of games for them.  I'm not (yet) persuaded that a lack of games is
keeping people from Linux at home.  Then again, I'm not all that interested in them,
so there's my bias.

Basically it comes down to WHICH games are available. I have 4
computers in my
home 'office', 3 run Windows so I can play Everquest, the other runs
Linux
because the machine (laptop) is not powerful enough to run Everquest. If
I could play Everquest on Linux then all my home machines would be
Linux.

While Everquest is available for consoles (I also own a PlayStation
II), its
not the same game, its a dumbed down version.

So 'lack of games' (or really a game) is what is keeping me from using
Linux
at home, at least for three of my computers.




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Re: Desktop Linux (fwd)

[Richard Soule]

Michael Costolo wrote:

Would you define "cool" software?  Frankly, I am of the opinion that Linux comes
with lots of cool software.  Or at least, lots of cool software runs under Linux (my
apologies for the pedantry).  But being a physicist, I suppose my geek factor is
pretty high.  What "cool" apps would you say are currently lacking for (non-geek)
families? 

Everquest, World of Warcraft, Halo, Call of Duty, Civilization, Grand 
Theft Auto, etc.
Games are a driving force in the home market. Saying that there are 
games for Linux
is accurate, but if you don't have the game that I want to play right 
now, then you
don't have a viable alternative for me.

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Re: [ON Topic] How 'bout them Linux? Ain't they somethin?!

[Richard Soule]

Michael ODonnell wrote:

What an opportunity to embarrass yourself!  Might also
be good preparation for a job interview...
More or less, this is how I got my job at Oracle.

An Oracle sales consulting director came to UNH to help
troubleshoot an Oracle issue on a machine. I think it was
something along the lines of three different versions of
Oracle were installed on the machine, but for some reason
it looked like 4 versions. (It was a long time ago so the
details are a little foggy right now.)
Pat (my boss at the time), Dave (the guy from Oracle) and
I did the 'narrate our thought process' thing to each other
while we tried to figure it out. At the end Dave turned to
me and asked if I was looking for a job...
Rich

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Re: [ON Topic] How 'bout them Linux? Ain't they somethin?!

[Richard Soule]

Paul's email got me thinking... His commment about 'figuring
something out' really hit home because recently I've run into
situations where consultants have 'solved the wrong problem'
for some big clients.
We often see two kinds of 'good' consultants out there:

1) The kind with great experience and thus the ability to
  solve problems that relate to their experience.
2) The kind with great experience AND troubleshooting skills
  and thus the ability to solve problems that relate to their
  experience AND problems they have never seen before.
I've seen situations where consultant type one has put together
the solution to a problem based on their experience but totally
missed the boat when it came to a solution that someone would
really want to use.
I'm not sure if you could really have a class on 'troubleshooting',
but if someone could figure that out it would be VERY valuable.
Something that might be kind of fun would be to 'sort of break'
a linux installation (mis-configure something, 'degrade' a needed
library, etc.) and then have folks 'try to figure it out'. Just
the experience of watching folks go through the various possibilities
and applying their troubleshooting skills could be very interesting.
Rich

Paul Lussier wrote:

It's the tinkering and debugging that I think hooks most
of us, so it would be fun to actually do some tinkering and debugging
rather than just talking about it.  This list has always been rather
heavy in the sysadmin area, so there are plenty of us who do this stuff
everyday all day specifically because it's fun *and* they pay us for it.
Unfortunately, when it's your job, you seldom get the chance to tinker
on stuff your interested in just because it looks neat.
 

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Linux distro for Barbie?

[Richard Soule]

http://qrxx.4t.com/barbieOS.htm

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Microsoft using Linux

[Richard Soule]

"A Netcraft monitoring Web site has revealed Microsoft's London
Internet Data Centre depends heavily on Linux for delivering data, via
hosting company Akamai Technologies, which uses a Linux-based caching
system to deliver content. At the time of going to press, nine of the
10 Microsoft London Internet Data Centre sites with the longest uptime
were running Linux.

When asked whether customers can be confident in Microsoft if even
Microsoft uses Linux in some situations, Gregory said open source and
Microsoft technologies were part of a "rich technology ecosystem".

"This is a good thing for Microsoft, its partners and customers. Linux
and Microsoft do not operate mutually exclusively - they are part of
this ecosystem," Gregory said. "


The above is the last 3 paragraphs at:

http://www.itnews.com.au/storycontent.cfm?ID=10&Art_ID=12492

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That expensive keyboard (was Re: I need suggestions as to where to get a replacemen laptop keyboard)

[Richard Soule]

H

http://search.ebay.com/ws/search/SaleSearch?satitle=kinesis+keyboard&ht=1&sosortproperty=1&from=R10&BasicSearch=begin:vcard 
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Re: I need suggestions as to where to get a replacement laptop keyboard

[Richard Soule]

Erik Price wrote:
> 
> I would save up and it would be my next "big purchase" -- if they
> offered USB.

http://www.kinesis-ergo.com/advantage.htm

It's a bit more at $299, so I would probably go with some type of
adapter:

http://www.maltron.co.uk/USB-PS2pic.html

http://google-zdnet.com.com/USB_TO_PS2_KEYBOARD___MOUSE_CONVERTER/4014-6595_15-6777881.html?tag=pl

Good luck!

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Re: I need suggestions as to where to get a replacement laptop keyboard

[Richard Soule]

Jeff Kinz wrote:
> > http://www.kinesis-ergo.com/professional.htm
> 
>$350.
> 
> First time I've seen a keyboard more expensive than a computer!  :-)

Only $239 for the essential which has the same layout and almost the
same features:

http://www.kinesis-ergo.com/essential.htm

To me there are three different places where you interact with your
computer directly:

The monitor, the keyboard, and sometimes the mouse.

'Overspending' in these areas is ALWAYS worth the money.

Many people go out and buy that 'dream machine' with the super fast
processor, the super duper video card, spend $200 extra to get the
800MHz system bus, etc. But then they hook up a $29 keyboard and a $15
mouse, or even worse one of those 'natural keyboards' that bends your
hands into totally unnatural positions.

Did you really need 250GB of disk? Did you really need 1.5GB of ram? Did
you really need a video card with 512MB of ram? How often do you really
watch DVDs on your computer? If you are on a budget, cut back on those
things a bit and toss in a keyboard that you can use for the rest of
your career. I've dumped Mountain Dew into mine (more than once!) and
just take it apart and run it under the faucet, dry it off a bit and I'm
good to go. This is a quality keyboard that should last a very long
time.

To me the keyboard is the MOST important area where you interact with
your computer, the monitor is second (but very close) and the mouse is a
distant third.

Least important: Processor speed, ram, DVDs, video cards, etc.

Just my perspective... I'm sure other folks will have different ones.

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Re: I need suggestions as to where to get a replacement laptop keyboard

[Richard Soule]

If you want to type VERY fast you should try one of these:

http://www.kinesis-ergo.com/professional.htm

It's what I use at work and I love it.

Caps Lock is next to the A key though...

:-)

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Re: RE: RE: destroying data

[RICHARD . SOULE]

Secure Communications in Okinawa Japan.

If anyone ever saw the movie The Falcon and the Snowman, I did exactly what 
Christopher Boyce
did in the movie (except for the part about selling secrets to the commies). He was 
America's most
wanted spy: He didn't sell secrets to the Russians, he sold them the keys that were 
used
to decrypt ALL the secrets.

Rich--- Begin Message ---
Yep, we were still using punch cards in the KY's. I *HATED* those!! When you want to 
destroy 
the card it was the strongest material known to man.  But when you were trying to tear 
it out 
of the book to use it seemed to rip any place a punch hole came within 3mm of an edge. 
 It's 
amazing how good you get cutting masking tape into itty-bitty little pieces. 
Uuuggghhh!!  

What did you do in the AF, Richard?  I was airborne communications on the E4B out of 
Offutt, NE.

-Lawrence
"US Air Force:  The next great game from Milton Bradley for ages 18 and up."
Quote on a baseball cap I bought while touring a Navy carrier.

-Original Message-
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You are all so high tech!

When I was in the Air Force we took a match to the punched cards used to synchronize 
all the crypto equipment.

Paper is so much easier to destroy... but probably less fun.
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Re: RE: destroying data

[RICHARD . SOULE]

You are all so high tech!

When I was in the Air Force we took a match to the punched cards used
to synchronize all the crypto equipment.

Paper is so much easier to destroy... but probably less fun.--- Begin Message ---
In the AF we had some hi-tec 10MB drives (1999 taxes paying for 1980s technology on a 
1970s aircraft)
that had a failure habit. One of our "cleansing" steps was to break open the case, 
pull out the platters,
drop them on the pavement and grind them with our boots for a minimum of 60 seconds 
per side.  Then we
smashed them into oblivion w/ one of those $5000 hammers.  It actually proved very 
therapeutic as well
as enhancing security. :-)

-Lawrence

-Original Message-
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Sent: Saturday, July 05, 2003 8:41 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: destroying data 


A friend of mine who used to work for one of our government agencies told me how they 
got rid of old disks.  They took the disks apart, ground the platters down to 
dustthen burned the dust.

md
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Executive Director   Linux(R) International
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Voice: +1.603.672.4557   Amherst, N.H. 03031-3032 U.S.A.
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Re: Palm/Linux Database

[Richard Soule]

If this is for personal use then you can use any of the Oracle software
that you download from http://otn.oracle.com without paying Oracle (see
site for complete license information, etc.).

Oracle9i Lite Release 5.0.2.0.0 for Linux and Oracle9i Lite Release
5.0.2 for Windows CE, 95/98/NT/2000, Pocket PC, Palm Computing Platform,
and EPOC should give you just what you are looking for.

http://otn.oracle.com/software/products/lite/content.html

Rich

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
> I would like to find an application(s) that would allow me to produce a database
> (s) for personal use, and to be able to access it from my Linux system, as well
> as some way to access it from my Palm Pilot.
> 
> Anyone know of any such software available?
> 
> Thanks
> Sean
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The real Linux vs. SCO story

[Richard Soule]

http://www.arie.org/doh/

;-)

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Sign of the times...

[Richard Soule]

http://iinformation.com/images/penguincrossing.jpg

These are appearing all over the Oracle campus in Redwood Shores, CA.

(That's actually my website. If for some reason you would like the
image, please copy it to your site instead of linking to mine. Not sure
what type of bandwidth I have.)

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Re: Oracle and Linux

[Richard Soule]

Ed Lawson wrote:
> Seems like I remember a meeting at UNH where it was said Oracle would
> never release a product for Linux even thought they had it running on
> Linux for internal trials.

Clearly maddog > Rich at futurism. I bow to his superior predictive
capabilities. Of course I'll use my young age at the time as a bit of an
excuse. It's really hard to believe that that was only seven short years
ago. I'm trying to figure out why I now feel that I was so young then?

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Oracle and Linux

[Richard Soule]

Some articles on things Oracle is doing with Linux:

http://news.com.com/2008-1001-992907.html?tag=fd_nc_1

http://www.oracle.com/corporate/press/index.html?1656846.html

http://www.oracle.com/corporate/press/1623351.html

I can remember a talk a long time ago (early '90s?) when maddog
explained why Linux didn't have security evaluations (basically the
cost). He did mention that at some point some big company would probably
come along and foot the cost. maddog seems pretty good at predicting the
future... Got any stock tips for us maddog?

I also remember some young kid explaining why Oracle didn't understand
Linux...

For those of you who want to pad your resume with "I've installed and
configured Oracle9i Database and Oracle9i Application Server on Linux"
types of statements, all Oracle software for Linux is downloadable from
http://otn.oracle.com/tech/linux/content.html.

:-)

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Re: Are American high tech workers obsolete?

[Richard Soule]

Hewitt Tech wrote:
[major snipage]
> The idea of labor unions (and I know there are plenty of arguments
> against them) are heretical to them. Thoughts?

Given the discussion, I don't see how labor unions could help in any way
whatsoever, and they would certainly be a drag on corporations (Demands
that don't reflect reality) and individuals (Tell my why I am paying
union dues again?).

Rich

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Re: 'My favorite platform' debate (was: Rack Mount Servers)

[Richard Soule]

5 level paper tape? or 8?  I used 5 myself.

There were times when we had to process stuff 'as fast as humanly
possible' (for the U.S. Air Force) and it would usually come my way
because I could get the message on to the tape faster than the modem
could read it.

As I was typing another operator would grab the end of the tape and feed
it into the modem.  While you could make a one or two character mistake
in the body of the message (which required you to 'back the tape up' and
strike out the mistakes), you could make 0 mistakes in the header and
footer. So not only did you have to type fast, you had to be very
accurate.

(This was in the late '80s, I am only 34!)

;-)

Rich

"Brian B. Riley (N1BQ) ListAcct" wrote:
> 
> ... hell ... as long as we are reminiscing about the good old days. The
> first computer I worked on had a punched paper tape operating system that
> paged 128 byte chunks into a 256 byte core memory space. All the "i/o" was
> via a Flexowriter. The first major upgrade to the OS was when they started
> delivering it on mylar tape so it only had to be replaced once a month or so
> instead of twice a week!
> 
>cheers ... bbr
> 
> -Original Message-
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> Sent: Monday, August 12, 2002 9:57 PM
> To: Greater NH Linux User Group
> Subject: Re: 'My favorite platform' debate (was: Rack Mount Servers)
> 
> On Mon, 12 Aug 2002, at 9:52pm, Erik Price wrote:
> > I remember my first Macintosh.  It did not come with a hard disk!  Just a
> > floppy drive.
> 
>   "Why, back in my day, we didn't even have keyboards.  We had to chisel the
> characters into the screen!  And we liked it!"
> 
>   ;-)
> 
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