OT: IP Addresses needed.
Hi everyone, I'm evaluating a few pieces of software that given an IP address, gives me physical location information about the address. The only way to test geolocation databases like this is to develop a "truth table" of addresses, where I know the physical address, give it the IP address, and see how it performs compared to reality. If you could help out, I'd appreciate it. All I need is your IP address and the city or town where you're located. If you have other "known" IP addresses that you can send my way, they'd be helpful. The more addresses that I can collect, the better my truth table, and the better the evaluation will be. In return, you will have my eternal gratitude, and I will also tell you where you are. :-) thanks! r ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss/
verizon DNS "helper"
Verizon recently (I think) put in a handy DNS "helper" that redirects DNS requests that result in a "not found" to their own servers. This completely breaks lots of stuff, and they should be lashed 50 times with a wet noodle for doing so. It breaks the internet. To their credit, they have an "opt out" option that you can use. If you go to the configure page for your router, note your DNS settings. Get to the point where you can choose to take DNS settings from DHCP, and hard code your own DNS settings to the same addresses that DHCP had given you, but replacing the '.12' with '.14', e.g., "192.168.0.12" would become "192.168.0.14". So I wanted to tell Verizon what a stupid move this is, and at the same time tell them thanks for making opting out so relatively painless, but I found that Verizon internet doesn't actually let you speak with people. Maybe those big windowless buildings *are* a sign that the phone company is really and truly run entirely by machines. >sigh< ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss/
remote control for MythTV
So I'm going to build this mythtv box this weekend, and am wondering what the best recommendation would be for a remote control. I haven't got IRDA or anything like that, but I do have a bunch of universal remotes. Any recommendations (besides buying a tuner that already has one!) r ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss/
TuxScreen phones
Hi everyone, I hope that this is an "appropriate" use of the mailing list. :-) This is a GNHLUG pre-Hosstraders alert! I've got 13 Lucent Shannon phones to sell (read: get out of the basement). This was a project done by Lucent at the turn of the century (!) for Philips that never took off. Lots and lots were made then scrapped. Why is this interesting? Check out http://www.tuxscreen.net/ . It seems as though lots of the scrapped production made it into the wide open world of open source, and Linux has been ported to it, along with a bunch of cool applications. A few of the phones have minor mechanical problems: three of them have a loose connection on the rotating display that makes the backlight dodgy. Probably really easy to fix. One has a RAM connector that doesn't hold the DIMM in place (epoxy will fix). If you want one or more, let me know, or see me at Hosstraders. How much do I want for them? I dunno. Make an offer, in the spirit of Hosstraders. Please note: I don't have a JTAG for them -- but the tuxscreen website has some good detailed directions. r ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss
try something new
If anyone wants to "dial in" to the meeting tonight, please dial meat my skype account (see below) at around 7:30-7:45, and we'll trya skype conference call for tonight's meeting. Rob Lembree[EMAIL PROTECTED]SavaJe Technologies, Inc.978.856.4877 100 Apollo Dr.AIM: roblembree Chelmsford, MA 01824Skype: lembreemobile: 603.494.0559send text message
Re: 1600sw & xorg.conf (Hi, Paul!).
On Dec 19, 2005, at 12:06 AM, Ben Scott wrote: Out of curiosity, I Googled the specs on the 1600SW, to see if mass-market displays had caught up with it at this point. (Answer: It appears they have.) In the process, I stumbled upon the following, which both mention products that convert DVI to the goofy SGI format. >ahem< goofy? I worked for SGI back in the day when we came out with the 1600SW. The choice was between two digital connectors and signaling formats, DVI and LDI. DVI was sort of an unknown quantity, but LDI was use in almost all laptops. The connector was also smaller and sturdier. Seemed a safe bet at the time. Recall that the 1600SW was one of the very first flat displays, and was certainly one of the very first to use a digital interface! As soon as it became apparent that we'd lost the format war, SGI released the 'multilink adapter' which transcoded the formats. for your entertainment, the SGI 1600SW was code-named '7 of 9', and the multilink adapter was codenamed 'Droid'. ;-) http://www.icir.org/hodson/1600sw/gfx1600sw.html http://www.pixsolution.com/ FYI, FWIW, YMMV, etc., etc. -- Ben ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss
Re: Once upon a time, I loved SCSI. (Was: Help! Is this kernel or hardwareproblem?)
On Nov 28, 2005, at 7:27 PM, Ben Scott wrote: On 11/28/05, John Abreau <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I remember one of the neat features being the ability to shut down the Powerbook and use the internal hard disk as an external disk for another host. That still works. ... a key combination to hold down while booting that brought the machine up as a firewire hard drive, and I was able to install from another Mac onto this machine's drive to do the upgrade. Now that's just too cool. It's especially cool when you have a machine to recover, or you want to do a really clean backup. Apple always did (and continues to) have such nice designs. It's a pity they're so darn proprietary. You mean like by using BSD and making the sources available? ;-) (not trying to start a flamewar -- compare the openness of Apple to ANY other Unix vendor, and the closest might be, and only recently, Sun) A new revision of the USB spec introduces something called "USB-To-Go", which allows for two devices to negotiate the master/slave relationship. It's mainly intended for things like cameras and cell phones, which are usually slaves to a PC, but people occasionally want to connect to each other. So I don't know if we can ever expect to see simple PC-to-PC USB links. This is the real point of my note. Please don't get me started on USB. Sigh. I've just spent several infuriating weeks with my friendly USB bus and protocol analyzer working on this stuff. I really hate USB, and now have all the more reason to hate it. Ask me sometime how sad Windows' USB driver is compared to Mac or Linux... Yes, USB OTG (on-the-go) allows a device to be either a host or device. The best example is a mobile handset (we don't call them phones -- just like we don't call companies like T-Mobile 'carriers', we call them 'operators'). A handset with USBOTG can plug into a PC and be lots of things to the PC, such as a number of serial ports, mass storage, etc. The very same handset can plug into a USB printer, and take on the 'host' side of the equation. Now about networking. Yes, you can run ethernet protocols over USB, we do it all the time to boot prototype handsets using TFTP from mac and linux boxes. Google on 'cdcether'. The CDC stands for 'communication device class' by the way, not 'Control Data Corporation' or 'Connected Device Configuration'. Again, Apple was their own worst enemy. If they hadn't been so proprietary about Firewire, there's a good chance USB would never have gained traction, and we wouldn't have to worry about fixing all the brain damage in USB. Ehh, USB becomes a whole lot less interesting when you compare it to Firewire 800 or better. Also, USB falls flat on its face with real media demands that require isochronous transfers -- effectively bandwidth guarantees. You'll never hook up your MiniDV camcorder over USB. Firewire also supports loads more devices per port. Ever wonder why you have so many USB ports on your PC? *sigh* -- Ben ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss
Re: Naked DSL
On Oct 17, 2005, at 12:25 PM, Nolan, Catherine (PTG) wrote: Does anyone know/recommend of any providers offering Naked DSL in the Boston Area? I use Great Works Internet (gwi.net). Their pricing is reasonable, performance is great, they're semi-local (Biddeford, ME), and support is superb. They're in Nashua, not sure about other areas. Far better than dealing with a huge conglomerate someplace far away. Thanks - Catherine B. Nolan [EMAIL PROTECTED] Watch for the forthcoming books OSPF and ISIS by Jeff Doyle www.awprofessional.com/title/0321168798 and VPNs Illustrated by Jon C. Snader http://www.awprofessional.com/title/032124544X ** ** This email may contain confidential material. If you were not an intended recipient, please notify the sender and delete all copies. We may monitor email to and from our network. ** ** ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss
Re: letter to the Telegraph
On Jul 6, 2005, at 11:30 AM, Rob Lembree wrote: I have no idea whether or not they will publish it, but I sent this to the Nashua Telegraph today. A followup: The letter was published yesterday, Sunday, Jul 17. Somehow they got the idea that I live in Manchester -- this is incorrect, I'm in Nashua. r regards, rob An article in today's Telegraph reported the theft of a number of "PowerPoint" projectors from a local high school. "PowerPoint" is software from Microsoft geared to delivering presentations from a computer, and is part of Microsoft Office. As the article correctly points out, the projectors can be used for anything that can be put onto a computer screen. So why were they called "PowerPoint" projectors? In my view, the reason is that most people are of the belief that there is only one software company on the planet, blinding us to good, inexpensive alternatives. An excellent alternative to Microsoft's Office (list price $499 per computer) is OpenOffice (list price: FREE). A superb alternative to Adobe's PhotoShop (list price $560 per computer) is the GNU Image Manipulation Program (GIMP, list price FREE). The examples of free and open source alternatives to expensive software are nearly boundless. Consider how much money schools and government would save if we switched away from software costing hundreds of dollars per computer, to free software. No longer would municipal employees need to justify another expensive copy of Microsoft Office at taxpayer expense. No longer would classroom computers have to be specialized by the expensive software on them. No longer would "software upgrades" be a large part of every city department's budget. Consider that EVERY computer could have word processing, image manipulation, presentation software, etc. on it, without spending a nickel on licenses. I would challenge us, especially our budget-tightened governments and school districts to break free of software myopia, and consider alternatives that can save all of us a lot of money while at the same time dramatically improving our computer environments. Robert Lembree Past Chair, Greater NH Linux Users Group www.gnhlug.org ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss
letter to the Telegraph
I have no idea whether or not they will publish it, but I sent this to the Nashua Telegraph today. regards, rob An article in today's Telegraph reported the theft of a number of "PowerPoint" projectors from a local high school. "PowerPoint" is software from Microsoft geared to delivering presentations from a computer, and is part of Microsoft Office. As the article correctly points out, the projectors can be used for anything that can be put onto a computer screen. So why were they called "PowerPoint" projectors? In my view, the reason is that most people are of the belief that there is only one software company on the planet, blinding us to good, inexpensive alternatives. An excellent alternative to Microsoft's Office (list price $499 per computer) is OpenOffice (list price: FREE). A superb alternative to Adobe's PhotoShop (list price $560 per computer) is the GNU Image Manipulation Program (GIMP, list price FREE). The examples of free and open source alternatives to expensive software are nearly boundless. Consider how much money schools and government would save if we switched away from software costing hundreds of dollars per computer, to free software. No longer would municipal employees need to justify another expensive copy of Microsoft Office at taxpayer expense. No longer would classroom computers have to be specialized by the expensive software on them. No longer would "software upgrades" be a large part of every city department's budget. Consider that EVERY computer could have word processing, image manipulation, presentation software, etc. on it, without spending a nickel on licenses. I would challenge us, especially our budget-tightened governments and school districts to break free of software myopia, and consider alternatives that can save all of us a lot of money while at the same time dramatically improving our computer environments. Robert Lembree Past Chair, Greater NH Linux Users Group www.gnhlug.org ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss
pointer to emulators
at the merrilug meeting tonight, we talked about using emulators to replace aging hardware. here's a link to Bob Supnik's project to emulate lots of old hardware: http://simh.trailing-edge.com/ -- Rob Lembree Advanced Technology Group SavaJe Technologies, Inc.
Re: MerriLUG meeting *tonight*.
On Apr 21, 2005, at 9:56 AM, Ken D'Ambrosio wrote: Yup, you read that right. And I believe I've learned a lesson: brevity is apparently a good thing. So, I'll KISS: - Since no other victims have come forward, this evening I will serenade you with Postfix. "Share and enjoy." Please let me know if you'll be at Martha's at 6:00 for eats, so I can make a reservation. The meeting part of the meeting (so to speak) starts promptly at 7:00-ish upstairs. Good news and bad news. First the bad news. I just came from Marthas, and their upstairs room is booked tonight. Now the good news. When we meet for an extended dinner about Postfix downstairs, we can now make use of the new wireless hotspot that I got working for them, SSID: Marthas. :-) You can thank me with beer! -Ken P.S. Apologies for not getting this out yesterday, but I actually forgot that yesterday was, indeed, Wednesday. Kept thinking it was Tuesday. Wups! ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss -- Rob Lembree Advanced Technology Group SavaJe Technologies, Inc.
Re: Meetings?
On Jan 26, 2005, at 7:47 PM, Jim Kuzdrall wrote: Is the 4th Wednesday meeting of mvlug etc. at Martha's in hibernation? My wife and I enjoyed the dinner out, but the evening ended more quickly than planned. I had been the coordinator for the Nashua meetings, but demands on my time have exceeded the time available (by a wide margin), so I sent a note to 'discuss' a couple of weeks ago looking for a replacement. Also, we've had steadily declining attendance, with only one person showing up at the meeting in December, so I'm reluctant to get a speaker in for what might amount to a nice dinner for two again. :-\ So far, nobody's stepped forward to coordinate it. Without a coordinator or people showing up -- well, do the math. Should the web site be updated? It should. Could someone who knows how to do this please update it? Also, if anyone thinks that a Nashua LUG is nice to have, please volunteer to coordinate it. Jim Kuzdrall ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss -- Rob Lembree Advanced Technology Group SavaJe Technologies, Inc.
GNHLUG chair and Nashua LUG coordinator
Hi everyone, I'd like to seek out someone who'd like to lead GNHLUG, and another person who'd like to run the Nashua meetings. I have no time for either anymore, and not even enough time to delegate! The ideal candidate for Nashua meeting coordinator would be someone who's organized, who has time to get good speakers lined up, and who would ensure that the Nashua area Linux community's well served by GNHLUG. This would preferably be someone who's been a regular attendee at Nashua meetings... The ideal candidate for GNHLUG chair would be someone who has some ideas about what GNHLUG can offer the sub-LUGs, and the willingness and time to follow through with their ideas. We've had great leadership in the past, and I think it's time we did again. I'm not sure how we'll decide who the next leaders will be, as we have no formal process. I suppose that if you can convince me that you'll do a better job than I have (not too hard), you're in the running. Those of us on the -org list can perhaps decide between multiple candidates. regards, rob -- Rob Lembree Advanced Technology Group SavaJe Technologies, Inc.
Re: meeting tonight
On Dec 15, 2004, at 11:41 PM, Gary L. Grebus wrote: Rats...I missed it! So I can add it to my calendar... 3rd Wednesday of the month, right? Just so everyone's clear: the Nashua meetings are on the 4th Wed of the month, but was pushed to the third for Nov. and Dec. due to the holidays. The next meeting will be on January 26th, the 4th Wed of the month. /gary On Wed, 2004-12-15 at 11:08 -0500, Rob Lembree wrote: __ Hi folks, I've been unable to reserve the room at Marthas for the meeting tonight. That's not to say it's unavailable, but they haven't gotten back to me. HOWEVER, we will have a meeting tonight, and worst case, we'll just chat downstairs in the restaurant. The topic is MacOS for Linux Users. This will be an informal chat about MacOS, which is effectively BSD Unix with a pretty UI. Dinner will be at 6:00. Please let me know if you'll be joining us. We'll try to save the MacOS discussion until the normal meeting start time at 7:30. All are invited. The address if you want to come is 187 Main St., Nashua NH. Mapquest away... regards, rob -- Rob Lembree Advanced Technology Group SavaJe Technologies, Inc. ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss -- Rob Lembree Advanced Technology Group SavaJe Technologies, Inc.
Re: Cleaning computers after fire
On Dec 20, 2004, at 1:25 PM, Greg Rundlett wrote: We had a fire at the house where I work over the weekend...that's the bad news. The good news is that the house didn't burn down and all the computers seem fine (even though the vinyl blinds right above where my computers are located are melted). There is heavy smoke damage to the entire house, and heat at the ceiling was at least 900 degrees in some parts of the house. I'm wondering if anyone has any experience with cleaning a motherboard / PC internals after a fire. I am sure that the chemicals/acid/soot in the smoke could cause problems over time and so the equipment should be cleaned as thoroughly as possible. I'm running commodity desktop systems, so it may be cheaper to just buy new ones and migrate the data and applications. But then again, we've got at least 5 PC's to deal with, so buying 5 new PC's, then migrating everything would be expensive and time-consuming. Hi Greg, Unfortunately I do have experience with this sort of thing, my house burned down in 1997 -- we lost everything. You've gotten some great advice from others. They're right in that smoke residue his very acidic, it will burn through IC pins quickly. Also, heat can damage drive bearings. First, buy new disks and at least one new computer. Insert the disks one at a time with old drives, and 'dd' them. Don't mount or anything, just 'dd'. Use a block size that will maximize the performance. When you turn the machine on, boot into single user mode, and do the 'dd' immediately (but do the dd carefully!!) After you've done this, remove the new drives with the 'dd' data and put them on a shelf. You can then try fancier things, such as carefully moving data from the damaged drives in a more organized fashion. While you might not be so lucky, I have drives that were heavily damaged that worked for a couple of years after the fire. I ended up throwing them away because the became obsolete! As for boards and stuff, best to replace them, but what worked for me was a bath of rubbing alcohol and a toothbrush. Immerse the boards, brush with the toothbrush, and dry with a hair dryer on low. Then let them sit for a day or so to ensure that they're dry (they should be) That worked for me. The problem here is that you'll never get all the smoke residue, so you'll be on borrowed time with the hardware. But, you might get lucky and have the stuff just keep working. Some older stuff I had was fine, some more modern stuff was toast (smaller pins -- and a microscope showed clearly what had happened) The cases the power supplies are toast -- just replace them. If you want help with them, I'm happy to help out -- and sadly, experienced. r tia -- Greg Rundlett CTO Knowledge Institute Free Resources for your Business www.BUZGate.org www.BUZWorks.org www.NHVBI.org (603) 642-4720 #3 [EMAIL PROTECTED] _______ gnhlug-discuss mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss -- Rob Lembree Advanced Technology Group SavaJe Technologies, Inc.
Re: meeting tonight
On Dec 15, 2004, at 11:08 AM, Rob Lembree wrote: Hi folks, I've been unable to reserve the room at Marthas for the meeting tonight. That's not to say it's unavailable, but they haven't gotten back to me. HOWEVER, we will have a meeting tonight, and worst case, we'll just chat downstairs in the restaurant. By the way, I have ISO images for The Open CD 2, The new X Live CD and Fedora Core 3. If you want any of these, bring blank media, and I'll burn as much as I can. If you want Fedora Core 3, please bring DVD-R media becase I can write those faster than the 4 CD set. -- Rob Lembree Advanced Technology Group SavaJe Technologies, Inc.
meeting tonight
Hi folks, I've been unable to reserve the room at Marthas for the meeting tonight. That's not to say it's unavailable, but they haven't gotten back to me. HOWEVER, we will have a meeting tonight, and worst case, we'll just chat downstairs in the restaurant. The topic is MacOS for Linux Users. This will be an informal chat about MacOS, which is effectively BSD Unix with a pretty UI. Dinner will be at 6:00. Please let me know if you'll be joining us. We'll try to save the MacOS discussion until the normal meeting start time at 7:30. All are invited. The address if you want to come is 187 Main St., Nashua NH. Mapquest away... regards, rob -- Rob Lembree Advanced Technology Group SavaJe Technologies, Inc.
looking to hire a scripting wiz
If you: * dream in Perl, Python or preferably both * see life as a big script to be run * win well-reasoned arguments about why your favorite scripting language is better than an other (and know both well enough to be accurate!) * can list lots of ways that your favorite scripting language can be improved in the next version * want to work in an intense, challenging, rewarding environment then we want to talk with you. We're a startup in Chelmsford, MA who needs someone like you. Let's talk. Familiarity with release engineering and SCM systems a plus. Please send your resume directly to me. No agencies, please. ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss
suggested meeting topic
Hi everyone, I don't yet have a speaker for the Nashua meeting this month, but had a chat with someone last month about a possibly interesting topic. Would anyone be interested in a talk about Mac OS X for Linux users? I've been using a Mac since April for development, and I love it. I've heard that a lot of the Mac's newfound popularity has been from Linux and Unix users, and certainly this is a demographic that I'm part of. If there's interest, I'm happy to do this talk. If not, I'm open to suggestions! r -- Rob Lembree Advanced Technology Group SavaJe Technologies, Inc.
addition to the agenda for Nashua meeting tonight: IRC
In addition to talks about the Ruby OO scripting language by David Berube, and by LinuxWorld representatives about LinuxWorld, Christopher Schmidt, local web developer and Semantic Web hacker, will talk about Internet Relay Chat - an introduction to the How and the Why: what IRC is, why it's useful, and how to get started! Again, the meeting is at 7:30 at Martha's in the 2nd floor ballroom, with dinner at 6:00 downstairs. -- Rob Lembree Advanced Technology Group SavaJe Technologies, Inc.
Nashua GNHLUG meeting *tomorrow* night (Wed., Nov. 17)
David Berube will be presenting a talk on the Ruby programming language tomorrow night at the Martha's Exchange on Main St. in Nashua. Ruby is an object oriented scripting language. His talk is based on his December '04 Dr. Dobb's Journal article. In addition, David's arranged for the LinuxWorld folks to present to us! He says that they sometimes bring goodies So it should be a great evening. As always, dinner will be downstairs at 6:00, followed by the meeting at 7:30PM. The public is always invited to attend. Directions can be found at: http://wiki.gnhlug.org/twiki2/bin/view/Www/PlaceMarthasExchange -- Rob Lembree Advanced Technology Group SavaJe Technologies, Inc.
meeting tomorrow night
By the way, yes, normally the GNHLUG meeting in Nashua is on the 4th wednesday, but this and next month's meeting will be ONE WEEK EARLY due to holiday conflicts!! So the DECEMBER Nashua meeting will be on the 15th! -- Rob Lembree Advanced Technology Group SavaJe Technologies, Inc.
Nashua meeting Wednesday night, 10/27
As previously announced, GNHLUG will have a Nashua meeting this Wednesday, Oct. 27, at 7:00 PM in the Collings Auditorium on the campus of Daniel Webster College (see their web site for directions, www.dwc.edu) The speaker will be New Hampshire Assistant Secretary of State Anthony Stevens, who will be speaking about electronic voting in the State of New Hampshire. Please note the venue change (DWC, NOT Marthas), and time change (7:00, not 7:30) regards, rob -- Rob Lembree Advanced Technology Group SavaJe Technologies, Inc.
PRESS RELEASE: ASST SEC. STATE OF NH TO ADDRESS ELECTRONIC VOTING, 10/27/04
FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE: CONTACT: Robert (Rob) Lembree Chair, Greater NH Linux Users Group 603-494-0559 [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.gnhlug.org/ “Electronic Voting Systems in New Hampshire,” presented by Anthony Stevens, New Hampshire Assistant Secretary of State, hosted by the Greater New Hampshire Linux Users' Group, at Daniel Webster College's Collings Auditorium, Nashua, NH, October 27th at 7:00 PM (Nashua, NH, October 19, 2004) -- Anthony Stevens, New Hampshire Assistant Secretary of State, will address "Electronic Voting Systems in New Hampshire" in Daniel Webster College's Collings Auditorium Wednesday, October 27th at 7:00 p.m. The program is free and open to the public. Sponsored by the Greater New Hampshire Linux Users' Group (GNHLUG), Mr. Stevens will present prospects for new elections technology in New Hampshire. An informal discussion will follow. “We're very excited to host the assistant Secretary of State for this very important topic, within a week of such a closely watched election,” said Robert Lembree, chair of the Greater NH Linux Users' Group. “As proponents of open source software, GNHLUG members have a keen interest in electronic voting systems, which are exclusively closed-source and therefore not open to analysis by outside professionals. Absent public scrutiny, governments must proceed cautiously in adopting any technology, especially any technology which can be verified only with 'trust-us' escrow procedures.” “The 'Help America Vote Act' has mandated a new processes and systems which the States are now working to implement”, said Bill Sconce, GNHLUG Program Chair. “GNHLUG is pleased to have this opportunity to sponsor a discussion of New Hampshire's progress in these efforts, and how they relate to the robust elections process which New Hampshire uses. We are privileged to have Mr. Stevens as our guest.” "Our nation was built on being 'open'", said Jon "maddog" Hall, Executive Director of Linux International. "Open town meetings and electoral accountability are part of what makes our nation great. If we are to surrender to computers the counting of our votes, we need to be sure that the software which does the job is not only correctly written and valid, but that anyone who wishes to inspect it can verify for themselves that it is correctly written and valid." ABOUT GNHLUG - Members of the Greater New Hampshire Linux Users' Group are interested in the Linux operating system and other free and open source software. GNHLUG has several chapters in New Hampshire with regular meetings that are open to everyone. Membership is also open to everyone, and there are no dues. With over 275 members, GNHLUG provides assistance with Linux and free software to individuals, businesses, schools, and organizations in New Hampshire and northern Massachusetts. For more information, see http://www.gnhlug.org. ABOUT LINUX - Linux is a free, open-source operating system that runs on everything from hand-held devices, to set-top boxes, personal and office computers, servers, mainframes, and supercomputers. Linux is a registered trademark of Linus Torvalds. ABOUT DWC - Daniel Webster College (DWC), founded in 1965, educates purposeful men and women for professional entry, advancement, and advanced studies in the fields of aviation, computer science, management, social science, and engineering. DWC students prepare throught residential and continuing studies programs that emphasize the integration of theory and practice through interactive teaching and learning in the professional and liberal studies. DWC offers the Bachelor of Science degree in computer science and information systems through its day program. Through its graduate and continuing-studies program, DWC offers a Bachelor of Science degree in software development, as well as certificate programs in Client-Server Application Development; C/UNIX Programming; Computer Security; MS Windows Programming; PC Networking; UNIX Systems Administration; Web Design; Microsoft .NET; and Webmaster Technology. For more information visit www.dwc.edu or call 603-577-6500. - END - -- Rob Lembree <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> JumpShift, LLC ___ gnhlug-announce mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-announce ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss
Please read: Nashua meeting at DWC this month, NOT Marthas
Hi everyone, This is a pre-announcement for the Nashua meeting this month so that the most people see it. The meeting this month will be a Daniel Webster College in the big auditorium, NOT at Martha's exchange as usual. It will take place on schedule on the 27th though. More details will be forthcoming in the next day or two. So please don't go to Martha's for the meeting, you'll miss out! Regards, rob -- Rob Lembree Advanced Technology Group SavaJe Technologies, Inc.
Re: Toner cartridge for Kerry office
I don't like interfering with the natural order of things, but... this thread's a little off topic -- as much as I like a good political debate between friends, can I suggest that it be done over beers instead of on the LUG list? -- Rob Lembree Advanced Technology Group SavaJe Technologies, Inc.
no meeting tonight
Due to lack of time on my part to prepare anything, there will be no Nashua meeting tonight. I'm sorry about that, but things have just been too crazy to prepare anything. If anyone wants to meet for dinner, I may be able to make some time to eat! regards, rob -- Rob Lembree SavaJe Technologies, Inc.
Nashua Linux dinner tomorrow
Hi everyone, While we won't be having a meeting tomorrow, we're going to try to get together for dinner at Martha's Exchange and chat about Linux and open source software. As usual, dinner will start at 6:00. Please RSVP if you're going to show up. If nobody RSVPs, I won't be there either! Directions are here: http://wiki.gnhlug.org/twiki2/bin/view/Www/PlaceMarthasExchange regards, rob -- Rob Lembree Advanced Technology Group SavaJe Technologies, Inc. ___ gnhlug-announce mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-announce ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss
meeting tomorrow night -- topic change!
maddog's just emailed me with a talk that he'd be willing to present tomorrow night. Since this is a lot better than a non-show-and-tell, I'm going to go with it. This will be a dry-run of a talk that he'll be delivering at Linuxworld. Title: Software Livre!: What Free and Open Source Software means to Brazil Abstract: As citizens of the United States, we look upon the computer marketplace with a jaded eye. We think "computers are everywhere", and "computers are really cheap", but even while these thoughts are not true in our own country, they are "more than true" in countries like Brazil. This talk will be about the economics of emerging economies and some of the projects that Brazil has going. -- Rob Lembree Advanced Technology Group SavaJe Technologies, Inc. ___ gnhlug-announce mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-announce ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss
GNHLUG Nashua meeting tomorrow night
We'll have our regular GNHLUG meeting in Nashua tomorrow night. There is no scheduled speaker, so we will have a show and tell. If you have something that you'd like to show off, or describe something cool you've done with Linux, please let me know. At this time, there have been NO responses to the show and tell. In the event that we have no show and tells, we'll just chat about Linux and open source stuff until we get tired, or are thrown out. ;-) The meeting will be at 7:30 at Martha's Exchange on Main St. in the second floor ballroom. As usual, we'll have dinner downstairs beforehand starting at around 6:00. Everyone is invited. regards, rob -- Rob Lembree Advanced Technology Group SavaJe Technologies, Inc. ___ gnhlug-announce mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-announce ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss
Re: Nashua meetings Guest speaker
On Jun 28, 2004, at 8:32 AM, Sharpe, Richard wrote: I just realized I forgot to cc the group on this.. I replied, indicating that we'd try to schedule this for October, as I have ongoing work to get a particular talk lined up for September. r Rich Richard A Sharpe (DBA) Sqlserver/DB2 Amherst Technologies 40 Continental Blvd Merrimack, NH 03054 PHONE ...(603) 579-6180 / (800) 431-8031 Cell phone ..(603) 320-7785 FAX ...(603) 578-1072 EMAIL [EMAIL PROTECTED] "Tenemos que tener fe" ("We must have faith") -Original Message- From: Sharpe, Richard Sent: Monday, June 28, 2004 7:58 AM To: Rob Lembree Cc: Sharpe, Richard Subject: Nashua meetings Guest speaker Rob I have a guest speaker who is willing to give a presentation on IBM's DB2 using LINUX, his name is Dan Callahan and he is from IBM, he is one of IBM's top DB2 Specialist and has converted many MS Sqlserver, Sybase and Oracle installations over to DB2 and a majority were to LINUX. Dan is a big fan of LINUX and would love to give a talk and have a few beers with the group and give out a few freebies. The Sept-Dec timeframe is good for him. Rich Richard A Sharpe (DBA) Sqlserver/DB2 Amherst Technologies 40 Continental Blvd Merrimack, NH 03054 PHONE ...(603) 579-6180 / (800) 431-8031 Cell phone ..(603) 320-7785 FAX ...(603) 578-1072 EMAIL [EMAIL PROTECTED] "Tenemos que tener fe" ("We must have faith") ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss -- Rob Lembree Advanced Technology Group SavaJe Technologies, Inc. ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss
Re: Summer Nashua meetings
On Jun 26, 2004, at 12:24 PM, Rich Kittle wrote: Rob- Did your MP3 recording of the Red Hat presentation work? Ya, it's a little big though (46MB), I've got to resample down and turn it mono, then I'll post it on the website. Thanks- Rich ===== Rob Lembree wrote: Out next GNHLUG Nashua meeting will be on July 28th, and the following will be August 25. Since a lot of people are on vacation in the summer, our attendance seems to drop in these months. I have a number of folks to do talks, but I'd prefer to hold the more formal talks for September, when we are more likely to have a bigger audience. Some of these folks travel to speak for us! I'd like to have a "show and tell" session for the meeting on July 28. You don't have to bring a show and tell of course, but if you want to, please let me know so that I can get an idea of how many we'll have. A show and tell is perhaps 5 or 10 minutes of showing something cool that you've done with Linux, or even to try to sell everyone else on your favorite mailer or browser! No slides needed, but we'll have a projector just in case. I can also bring a laptop for those who want to show something, but don't have portable computes. As an example, my topic will be "Stupid iPod Tricks With Linux". Our August 25 meeting will likely just be a group of folks chatting about Linux. I don't plan to reserve a room for this, so we'll probably just sit at our favorite tables at Marthas and talk about Linux. We'll start at 6:00. Stay tuned for more details. If the weather cooperates, we may have the meeting at Greeley Park with grills, burgers, etc. -- Rob Lembree Advanced Technology Group SavaJe Technologies, Inc. ___ gnhlug-announce mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-announce ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss -- Rob Lembree Advanced Technology Group SavaJe Technologies, Inc. ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss
Summer Nashua meetings
Out next GNHLUG Nashua meeting will be on July 28th, and the following will be August 25. Since a lot of people are on vacation in the summer, our attendance seems to drop in these months. I have a number of folks to do talks, but I'd prefer to hold the more formal talks for September, when we are more likely to have a bigger audience. Some of these folks travel to speak for us! I'd like to have a "show and tell" session for the meeting on July 28. You don't have to bring a show and tell of course, but if you want to, please let me know so that I can get an idea of how many we'll have. A show and tell is perhaps 5 or 10 minutes of showing something cool that you've done with Linux, or even to try to sell everyone else on your favorite mailer or browser! No slides needed, but we'll have a projector just in case. I can also bring a laptop for those who want to show something, but don't have portable computes. As an example, my topic will be "Stupid iPod Tricks With Linux". Our August 25 meeting will likely just be a group of folks chatting about Linux. I don't plan to reserve a room for this, so we'll probably just sit at our favorite tables at Marthas and talk about Linux. We'll start at 6:00. Stay tuned for more details. If the weather cooperates, we may have the meeting at Greeley Park with grills, burgers, etc. -- Rob Lembree Advanced Technology Group SavaJe Technologies, Inc. ___ gnhlug-announce mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-announce ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss
USENIX announcement
Hey everyone, Here's an announcement for the USENIX conference starting in Boston this Sunday. regards, rob There's going to be a "Super-LUG" meeting at the conference on Thursday evening before the Linux BoF; GNHLUG's invited to both events for free. Maddog's arranged for two members of the Novell team to be speaking. Jeff Hawkins (Vice President of Novell's Linux Business Office) will be discussing Novell's strategies and plans with Linux, and Miguel de Icaza will be discussing his latest project, Mono, with its goals and current status. There's also a free public debate on the Windows monoculture: see the online announcement below. Also, there's a PDF flier for the conference available at: http://www.usenix.org/events/usenix04/usenix04.pdf It is two pages, designed to be printed double-sided. = Register NOW for the USENIX Annual Technical Conference (ATC) in Boston June 27-July 2 at http://www.usenix.org/usenix04/progm USENIX is back in Boston at the end of this month with a unique and up-to-the minute program of tutorials and technical sessions. Come see and hear from notables such as Avi Rubin, Kirk McKusick, Rob Pike, Matt Blaze, Gary McGraw, Eric Allman and lots of others! PUBLIC DEBATE: Scott Charney, Microsoft's Chief Trustworthy Computing Strategist will debate Dan Geer, Chief Scientist at Verdasys (formerly at @Stake) on the security threat of a Windows monoculture. (This event is free and open to the public.) TUTORIALS: Six days of cutting-edge training from working experts gives you the knowledge you need to address tomorrow's challenges. Among the notables holding tutorials are Eric Allman, teaching Sendmail, David Rhoades teaching network security, and Kirk McKusick teaching BSD. CONFERENCE SESSIONS: Each day features a unique theme; here are some highlights: Monday: Advanced System Administration: Alan Nugent, VP & CTO at Novell will give the Plenary Tuesday: UseBSD: A full day of FreeBSD, NetBSD, and OpenBSD Wednesday: Security: Avi Rubin hosts a panel on security and politics Thursday: UseLinux: A "Super User Group" meeting will be held open to all Linux User Group members attending the conference. Friday: Extreme Linux: Wide scalability, high availability Linux clusters Sign up for any combination of tutorial and tech session days with "build your own conference" pricing. Once again, USENIX offers the very best values in training and tech sessions. = WHAT:USENIX '04 Annual Technical Conference WHEN:June 27 to July 2, 2004 WHERE: Boston, MA: Marriott Copley Place WHY: Great tutorials -- Unique Tech Sessions -- cutting-edge computing issues, developments & resources WHO: Developers, architects, researchers, administrators, managers, students: anyone interested in staying ahead of the curve HOW: For more information and to register go to http://www.usenix.org/usenix04/progm = -- Rob Lembree Advanced Technology Group SavaJe Technologies, Inc. ___ gnhlug-announce mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-announce ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss
Re: GNHLUG Nashua meeting, Tomorrow, June 22nd at Marthas
On Jun 22, 2004, at 5:27 PM, Rob Lembree wrote: On Jun 22, 2004, at 3:24 PM, Bruce Dawson wrote: On Tue, 2004-06-22 at 15:12, Ed Lawson wrote: Either way these last minute announcements make it difficult for those with busy lives to plan for and attend a distant meeting which is of interest as this one definitely is. Not a new or unexpected problem, just bummed. I echo the sentiments. For some reason, I thought the meeting was next week (last Wed of the month), and I had planned accordingly. Oh well. The Nashua meeting is held on the 4th wednesday of the month, which != the last Wednesday. Sorry about the late announcement, I had the speaker some time ago, but wasn't able to get the room until this week. Something about little kids and startups make it hard to keep up sometimes. By the way, I asked maddog to announce this when I found that our primary mail server had failed this morning! Thanks for getting the word out earlier than I was able to maddog! r Maybe someone can tape it? I'm sure that we can at least make an MP3 available! r --Bruce -- Rob Lembree Advanced Technology Group SavaJe Technologies, Inc. ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss -- Rob Lembree Advanced Technology Group SavaJe Technologies, Inc. ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss
Re: GNHLUG Nashua meeting, Tomorrow, June 22nd at Marthas
On Jun 22, 2004, at 3:24 PM, Bruce Dawson wrote: On Tue, 2004-06-22 at 15:12, Ed Lawson wrote: Either way these last minute announcements make it difficult for those with busy lives to plan for and attend a distant meeting which is of interest as this one definitely is. Not a new or unexpected problem, just bummed. I echo the sentiments. For some reason, I thought the meeting was next week (last Wed of the month), and I had planned accordingly. Oh well. The Nashua meeting is held on the 4th wednesday of the month, which != the last Wednesday. Sorry about the late announcement, I had the speaker some time ago, but wasn't able to get the room until this week. Something about little kids and startups make it hard to keep up sometimes. Maybe someone can tape it? I'm sure that we can at least make an MP3 available! r --Bruce -- Rob Lembree Advanced Technology Group SavaJe Technologies, Inc. ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss
Nashua GNHLUG meeting tomorrow night
What: Red Hat's Desktop Roadmap and Plans Who: Havoc Pennington Where: Martha's Exchange, Nashua, NH, second floor Date: Wed, 23 June 2004 Time: Presentation at 7:30 PM; dinner starts around 6:00 PM Havoc Pennington from Red Hat will present Red Hat's desktop roadmap and plans for the GNHLUG meeting this month. This is a very interesting topic, what with Red Hat's recent decisions about its free downloadable products, and how much many of us rely on it. It will also be interesting to see how Red Hat plans to differentiate the desktop product from the Enterprise Workstation product, as well as products from SuSE. Havoc Pennington is the lead desktop architect at Red Hat. He was one of the earliest GNOME developers starting in 1998, and was the chair of the GNOME Foundation board for the first two years of its existence. Havoc also founded the freedesktop.org project in 2000. As always, anyone is welcome. Dinner beforehand will be downstairs at Martha's beginning around 6. -- Rob Lembree Advanced Technology Group SavaJe Technologies, Inc. ___ gnhlug-announce mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-announce ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss
GNHLUG Nashua meeting, next Wed., May 26, Marthas
What: Introduction to Fedora Who: Justin Seiferth Where: Martha's Exchange, Nashua, NH, second floor Date: Wed, 26 May 2004 Time: Presentation at 7:30 PM; dinner starts around 6:00 PM Justin Seiferth will present an introduction and overview of the Fedora Distribution. He'll describe how it's both similar and different than it's godfather Redhat 9. You can download Fedora from fedora.redhat.com to try it out. Justin will have a few copies of it to give away after the talk. Justin Seiferth is the Technical Director of a small Wakefield MA company called Odyssey Systems Consulting. He provides support to various Federal Agencies. He also teaches a number of open source based courses including an "Introduction to Linux" using Fedora for UMASS. Justin lives in Pepperell, MA and besides open source software he likes to cycle and drink beer. You can see more at www.48park.com. As always, anyone is welcome. Dinner beforehand will be downstairs at Martha's beginning around 6. -- Rob Lembree Advanced Technology Group SavaJe Technologies, Inc. ___ gnhlug-announce mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-announce ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss
speaker for nashua for next week
Hi everyone, We're still looking for a speaker for next week's GNHLUG meeting in Nashua. I wonder if someone who's experimented with Fedora might like to give a presentation on it. I for one haven't ever seen it (my time for playing with Linux now is nearly zero), but I'm curious about it. Any takers? -- Rob Lembree Advanced Technology Group SavaJe Technologies, Inc. ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss
TONIGHT: Meeting - Wednesday April 28 - Nashua - GIMP 2.0
The Greater New Hampshire Linux User Group will hold its April meeting on Wednesday, April 28th, 2004 at 7:30 PM in the second floor banquet room at Martha's Exchange in Nashua, NH. As always, all interested persons are welcome to attend. For directions, see http://wiki.gnhlug.org/twiki2/bin/view/Www/PlaceMarthasExchange Greg Rundlett will speak, and demonstrate the GIMP 2.0 The GIMP is the GNU Image Manipulation Program. It is a freely distributed piece of software for such tasks as photo retouching, image composition and image authoring. It works on many operating systems, in many languages. www.Gimp.org is the official web site of the GIMP, and contains information about downloading, installing, using, and enhancing it. This site also serves as a distribution point for the latest releases. Greg will focus on enhancements made to the newest release (2.0), the GIMP community and related projects. Hopefully, you will find that the GIMP is one of the most professional graphics tools available in the world today, and be enticed to use it yourself and share it with friends. We'll start with some video demonstrations, then move on to some live tutorials, and also cover installation. Free CD's will be available. Rob Lembree will also be bringing a Motorola A760 Linux based mobile phone to play with! Dinner @ 18:00ish at Martha's (1st floor). For information on this and other GNHLUG activities visit: http://www.gnhlug.org -- Rob Lembree, SavaJe Technologies, Inc.
right tool for the job
I need to make a list of files based on a few things. The list needs to explicitly exclude some directories, but with exceptions. So for example, I want to grab a whole directory hierarchy such as 'files', but exclude subdirectory 'exclude', but include subdirectory 'exclude/include' files files/exclude < this directory is excluded files/exclude/include < except this directory or file files/exclude/others... The question everyone is Perl, Python, or something else? Simple shell scripting for this kind of thing is cumbersome. -- Rob Lembree JumpShift, LLC ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss
Re: Call for participation: Open Source in libraries
On Sun, 2004-01-04 at 17:10, Randy Edwards wrote: > > Assuming you are talking about Windows versions, i will gladly burn a Cd > > or two of the following and keep them up to day as I use them at work on > > my windows box: > > Might I suggest using TheOpenCD instead? That project already creates a > CD of Windows-based free software and the team that puts it together updates > it fairly regularly. The OpenCD is definitely part of my list! I know that we're a Linux user group, but I think that introducing folks to open source in general makes sense too. Hence, the OpenCD being part of the plan. I'm curious, what things should the library have in its circulating collections? What distributions should be there? Other things? > I think the key that's needed for a library outreach effort (sorry, but > I can't resist throwing in my $0.02 worth) is the human contact with the > individual libraries: the general chit-chat and education in free software > alternatives, along with various amounts of hand-holding and support. Providing classes is part of the plan, and the library is encouraging us to do that. They have a small computer lab set up with a server and a few Wyse Winterms. Presumably, we could use the Winterms to talk to a Linux server to do some classes. Intro to Linux, Intro to OpenOffice, Intro to Gimp, etc., all seem like good candidates to me. r -- Rob Lembree <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> JumpShift, LLC ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss
Call for participation: Open Source in libraries
Hi all, I'm starting a GNHLUG project to provide Linux and other open source materials to the Nashua Public Library. Initial response from NPL has been positive, and a meeting with the library has been set up for Monday, the 5th. This is a general call for participation, with varying levels of support. I would like one or two people who can help lead this project. If you want to sign on in this capacity, please call me at 603 577 9714. I'd also like to hear from people who can be responsible for maintaining current distributions of things for the library (e.g., a new version of your item comes out, and you are responsible for burning and delivering new CDs) If you're always downloading and installing, say, OpenOffice, you may be a good candidate for this! Next, I would like to seek continuing donations of relatively current printed documentation for various open source things. Finally, I would like this to be a seed project, repeated all around the state. We need to improve the relevance of GNHLUG to outsiders, and I think that this would be a great way to do it. If you would like to adopt a library in this capacity, please call me. -- Rob Lembree <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> JumpShift, LLC ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss
Re: [gnhlug-announce] Year-end Merrimack Valley Linux User Group Meeting, TONIGHT (12/15)
On Mon, 2003-12-15 at 13:10, Jeff Macdonald wrote: > On Mon, 2003-12-15 at 12:33, Rob Lembree wrote: > > > Rob asked about the issue of "Now that Red Hat is not > > handing out things for free, what are the alternatives" > > Strange - Fedora is free and so are the updates, so it seems to me that > they are still handing things out for free. Fedora's not the same as a commercially built and tested product -- this isn't to say that it lacks quality, but it's a fundamentally different development model, and therefore a fundamentally different product. Consider for example that Mandrake was once a modified Red Hat packaging. Since that time it's differentiated itself dramatically. I expect that Fedora and Red Hat Enterprise will diverge in much the same way. I don't think that Fedora is a plug-in replacement for Red Hat yet. I for one am not inclined to blindly move to Fedora just because I'm used to Red Hat. Perhaps the right answer for me is to pay the $99 a year to Red Hat. Perhaps it's to move to SuSE or Mandrake. Maybe Fedora or User Linux is the best choice. Each distribution has its unique reason for being. Since Red Hat's primary distribution has changed its focus from a general user desktop to a more stable business desktop, it's a good time for RH users to ask themselves what they want in a distribution, and choose. RH users are going to undergo a change no matter how you slice it. Fortunately for us, we're Linux users and we can make a choice! :-) r > > ___ > gnhlug-discuss mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss -- Rob Lembree <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> JumpShift, LLC ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss
[gnhlug-announce] Year-end Merrimack Valley Linux User Group Meeting, TONIGHT (12/15)
The Greater New Hampshire Linux User Group will hold its year-end meeting on Monday December 15th, 2003 (TONIGHT) at 7:30 PM in the second floor banquet room at Martha's Exchange in Nashua, NH. As always, all interested persons are welcome to attend. Jon "maddog" Hall will speak, here is his synopsis: I have been coerced (er, ah) asked by Rob to give my opinion (that, with $350. will get you a cup of coffee at a Starbucks almost anyplace) on a couple of topics at the end of the yeara "Potpourri of Linux Issues". Rob asked about the issue of "Now that Red Hat is not handing out things for free, what are the alternatives" and I mentioned the topic of "Is SCO our biggest enemy?" to start this off. We both agreed that if these topics are answered, then there are bound to be other ones come from y'all, and if I can't answer them (or make up a good story), someone in the crowd might do it. And besides, it has been a long time (and many airline miles) since I have seen you all, and may be a long time and many more airline miles before I see you again, so come on out. The one problem looming on the horizon (pardon the pun), is the snowstorm, so read your email right before you start out to see if the storm might cancel the festivities. The snow is gone, the sky is blue, so we WILL be having this meeting tonight! Dinner @ 18:00ish at Martha's (1rst floor). For information on this and other GNHLUG activities visit: http://www.gnhlug.org -- Rob Lembree <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> JumpShift, LLC ___ gnhlug-announce mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-announce ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss
reviews of Mandrake 9.2?
Has anyone run Mandrake 9.2 yet? Opinions, comparisons to Red Hat 9? Anyone want to do a talk on it perhaps? Every now and then, I like to peruse the distribution options, and there's not yet a lot of data on Mandrake 9.2 just yet. r -- Rob Lembree <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> JumpShift, LLC ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss
[gnhlug-announce] Quarterly meeting tomorrow, Martha's Exchange
The Greater New Hampshire Linux User Group will hold its Autumn quarterly meeting on Wednesday, October 22rd, 2003 at 7:30PM in the second floor banquet room at Martha's Exchange in Nashua, NH. We will be having a general meeting where attendees will be encouraged to talk about their favorite Linux applications, most daunting Linux problems, and interesting Linux solutions. The meeting will be informal. Laptops containing full Red Hat Linux 9 installations will be available for use in any demonstrations that people would like to give. Also, a laptop for installation demos will be available. We will have a projector as well. Please come to see what you can learn, and if you have something to teach, please do so! We'll also have a nice set of giveaways available (books and other trade show goodies). Also, those of you who have books out on loan for review, please bring them back now. We'll give those away too. As always, the meeting is free, and the public is invited to attend. Following the presentation, a general Q&A session will be held for those with questions about Linux. Dinner with the speaker is in the first-floor restaurant at Martha's Exchange at 6:00. Please RSVP for dinner to me so that we can give Martha's an accurate headcount for the meal. For further information, please call 888-249-JUMP (5867) -- Rob Lembree <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> JumpShift, LLC ___ gnhlug-announce mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-announce ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss
Quarterly Meeting reminder:
Hi Everyone, I wanted to remind you all of the meeting tomorrow at Martha's. Oracle's been kind enough to fly Todd Trichler from the weat coast just to speak with us, so please make a special effort to attend this meeting. We'd like to have a good turn-out given the effort that Oracle's made to put on this presentation. thanks, rob The Greater New Hampshire Linux User Group will hold its summer quarterly meeting on Wednesday, July 23rd, 2003 at 7:30PM in the second floor banquet room at Martha's Exchange in Nashua, NH. Our speaker will be Todd Trichler, Senior Principal Product Manager for the Oracle Technology Network (OTN). His presentation is titled "The Path to Enterprise Linux". The talk will cover some case studies of how Oracle and some of it's customers are using Linux to run their businesses. He will also look at how Oracle is contributing back to the Linux community, configuring Linux to run Oracle, and resources available for migrating to Oracle on Linux - with the primary focus of using Linux in an enterprise environment. As always, the talk is free, and the public is invited to attend. Following the presentation, a general Q&A session will be held for those with questions about Linux. Dinner with the speaker is in the first-floor restaurant at Martha's Exchange at 6:00. Please RSVP for dinner to me so that we can give Martha's an accurate headcount for the meal. For further information, please call 888-249-JUMP (5867) -- Rob Lembree <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> JumpShift, LLC ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss
[gnhlug-announce] Books for review and door prizes
I've just received another box of books from O'Reilly: Python in a Nutshell Linux Server Hacks Learning Perl Objects, References & Modules Linux Security Cookbook Python Cookbook Google Hacks O'Reilly's asked that if we could find some reviewers, that they'd like reviews written on the books they give us. While they don't require us to do that, they'd appreciate it. What I'd like to do is to find good reviewers for these books, and then use the books as door prizes at future meetings, after the reviewer's done with them. This lets us give something back to O'Reilly, who's always been generous with the LUG, and also lets at least two people in the LUG benefit from the book. Anyone wanting to review one of these books let me know. I'll leave it to you to figure out how to get the book from and then back to me (or any GNHLUG meeting). I'd also ask that you share your review not only with O'Reilly, but with the discuss mailing list as well. I'll be bringing the books to the Quarterly meeting on Wednesday. Of course, if you already have one of these books, feel free to send O'Reilly a review on your own. regards, rob -- Rob Lembree <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> JumpShift, LLC ___ gnhlug-announce mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-announce ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss
[gnhlug-announce] (no subject)
The Greater New Hampshire Linux User Group will hold its summer quarterly meeting on Wednesday, July 23rd, 2003 at 7:30PM in the second floor banquet room at Martha's Exchange in Nashua, NH. Our speaker will be Todd Trichler, Senior Principal Product Manager for the Oracle Technology Network (OTN). His presentation is titled "The Path to Enterprise Linux". The talk will cover some case studies of how Oracle and some of it's customers are using Linux to run their businesses. He will also look at how Oracle is contributing back to the Linux community, configuring Linux to run Oracle, and resources available for migrating to Oracle on Linux - with the primary focus of using Linux in an enterprise environment. As always, the talk is free, and the public is invited to attend. Following the presentation, a general Q&A session will be held for those with questions about Linux. Dinner with the speaker is in the first-floor restaurant at Martha's Exchange at 6:00. Please RSVP for dinner to me so that we can give Martha's an accurate headcount for the meal. For further information, please call 888-249-JUMP (5867) -- Rob Lembree JumpShift, LLC ___ gnhlug-announce mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-announce ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss
Re: What Excites You?
On Sun, 2003-03-30 at 16:52, Bill Sconce wrote: > Honest to goodness neat: Python, beyond question. Python has > (I believe) changed the professional life of almost everyone who > has learned how to use it. So Bill, How about a talk about Python for an upcoming meeting? r > -Bill > who's just back from PyCon 2003 :) > ___ > gnhlug-discuss mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss -- Rob Lembree 29 Milk St. JumpShift, LLC Nashua, NH 03064-1651[EMAIL PROTECTED] Phone: 603.577.9714 PGP: 1F EE F8 58 30 F1 B1 20 C5 4F 12 21 AD 0D 6B 29 ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss
Re: AOL now rejecting mail from Comcast residential IPs.
On Wed, 2003-03-26 at 12:26, Kenneth E. Lussier wrote: > On Sat, 2003-03-29 at 12:38, Bruce Dawson wrote: > > Quoting Ben Boulanger's email of Sat, 29 Mar 2003 09:23:55 -0500 (EST): > > > > > If AOL says 'no > > > direct mail from this IP Space' because there's a known issue with it, I > > > think they're doing the right thing. To ignore the problem only makes it > > > worse. > This is probably true. Most likely, there are underlying motives that > are far less altruistic. However, their TOS *DOES* state that no servers > are allowed. So, if someone is running a server in violation of their > ISP's TOS, and someone like AOL wants to block it, then it is well > withing their right. If you want to run servers, then switch to a > service that allows it. Someone who is running servers on their > connection will most likely use more bandwidth, and on a shared > connection like cable, it will (in theory) have an impact on other > users. I don't think that they meant servers in terms of outgoing SMTP though. If you run SMTP so that you can send out mail, as far as they should be concerned, it's not a server (it doesn't provide services to anyone outside the network), any more than sharing a printer between machines on a home network does. They shouldn't consider it a server unless it's servicing requests from the outside. So I think that this is a whole separate issue. -- Rob Lembree 29 Milk St. JumpShift, LLC Nashua, NH 03064-1651[EMAIL PROTECTED] Phone: 603.577.9714 PGP: 1F EE F8 58 30 F1 B1 20 C5 4F 12 21 AD 0D 6B 29 ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss
Re: Redhat 9.0 coming out April 7th
On Mon, 2003-03-24 at 15:48, Jeff Macdonald wrote: > Or a week earlier if you are a paying RHN customer. Interesting, not > even a point release for Redhat 8.0! Well, now doesn't that figure. Here I am, working on a great presentation for the MerriLUG on Wednesday night on RH8.0.. I hope that all of you who have gripes and cheers for RH8 show up on Wednesday. The meeting's been widely publicized (even in the paper), and we're hoping for a lot of new folks, so a good turnout of expertise and differing opinions would be great to see! r > -- > Jeff Macdonald <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Into birding? Check out http://www.migratus.com -- Rob Lembree 29 Milk St. JumpShift, LLC Nashua, NH 03064-1651[EMAIL PROTECTED] Phone: 603.577.9714 PGP: 1F EE F8 58 30 F1 B1 20 C5 4F 12 21 AD 0D 6B 29 ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss
[gnhlug-announce] Greater Nashua Software Entrepreneurs Group meeting on Linuxtonight
fyi, The Greater Nashua Software Entrepreneurs Group is having a meeting at the Nashua Public Library tonight at 7, and the speaker will be Paula Hunter, the general manager for UnitedLinux. rob -- Rob Lembree 29 Milk St. JumpShift, LLC Nashua, NH 03064-1651[EMAIL PROTECTED] Phone: 603.577.9714 PGP: 1F EE F8 58 30 F1 B1 20 C5 4F 12 21 AD 0D 6B 29 ___ gnhlug-announce mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-announce ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss
Re: Future meeting topics
On Fri, 2003-02-28 at 13:45, Bayard R. Coolidge wrote: > >>> Anyone else have anything that they'd > >>> particularly like to hear about? > > > Maybe a how-to on kernel building in general, with perhaps > a peek at what's upcoming/different in V2.5/2.6. I mentioned > this to Mark K privately the other day, and would be willing > to help with it. I do NOT have a laptop or projector, however. A laptop and projector usually won't be a problem as long as I can make it. I'd be happy to contribute to a kernel howto. What timeframe do you think that this would take to put together? Think that we could do it in time for a March meeting? I could also cover debugging kernel oopses as part of that (which was on Mark's list). r > > Bayard > > > ___ > gnhlug-discuss mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss -- Rob Lembree 29 Milk St. JumpShift, LLC Nashua, NH 03064-1651[EMAIL PROTECTED] Phone: 603.577.9714 PGP: 1F EE F8 58 30 F1 B1 20 C5 4F 12 21 AD 0D 6B 29 ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss
Re: Future meeting topics
On Thu, 2003-02-27 at 10:59, Mark Komarinski wrote: > Here's a few ideas, some of them relevant to what I'm going through > and ideas from last night's meeting: Thanks for the ideas, Mark. Anyone else have anything that they'd particularly like to hear about? r > Debugging kernel oopses (there's a lot of slides on the topic, but there > they reference what the speaker is saying) > LVM on single-drive machines (install, use, advantages, etc.) > Writing presentations using mgp (a few of us use it, including me) > Bluetooth / IEEE1394 use under Linux > > For the 'newbies': > > New features in RH 8.1 > Comparison of programming languages available on Linux > Book reviews might be an idea, if even just on the mailing list > > BTW, my slides from last night's presentation are available > at http://www.wayga.org/melba/02_2003 > > -Mark -- Rob Lembree 29 Milk St. JumpShift, LLC Nashua, NH 03064-1651[EMAIL PROTECTED] Phone: 603.577.9714 PGP: 1F EE F8 58 30 F1 B1 20 C5 4F 12 21 AD 0D 6B 29 ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss
Re: Linux booting problems
On Thu, 2003-02-27 at 15:30, Kenny Donahue wrote: > Ok deeep breath. I'm ready to though > Linux out. I've been fighting with a Linux kernel > build for a while now. I'm getting very angry. > I can load a Redhat 7.2 distribution and everything > works. I need to patch the kernel for a project at > work. so, I do my patch (../fs/proc/base.c if it makes a > difference) then > make mrproper > make xconfig > add my scsi driver into the kernel > add ext3 into the kernel > make dep > make bzImage make modules <--- you missed a step > make modules_install > make install > edit lilo.conf > run lilo > reboot > > ext3 comes up then it try's to load the ext3 module. > it fails with undefined symbols in jdb.o and ext3.o. > Why is it trying to load modules that are suposed to be > in the kernel I looked in /lib/modules/linux-2.4.7-10custom/ > and these modules DONT EXIST!!! > What is going on. > Please keep me from hating Linux. > Thanks, > Kenny > > > ___ > gnhlug-discuss mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss -- Rob Lembree 29 Milk St. JumpShift, LLC Nashua, NH 03064-1651[EMAIL PROTECTED] Phone: 603.577.9714 PGP: 1F EE F8 58 30 F1 B1 20 C5 4F 12 21 AD 0D 6B 29 ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss
Hannaford to use Linux
Hannaford Bros., the company that owns the grocery store Shop&Save, (and who recently renamed it 'Hannaford' at exit 6 in Nashua), is deploying Linux as a POS system. So when you're buying pretzels and beer at Hannaford, you're a Linux user :-) http://www.businesswire.com/cgi-bin/f_headline.cgi?bw.022403/230555142 -- Rob Lembree 29 Milk St. JumpShift, LLC Nashua, NH 03064-1651[EMAIL PROTECTED] Phone: 603.577.9714 PGP: 1F EE F8 58 30 F1 B1 20 C5 4F 12 21 AD 0D 6B 29 ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss
Re: Great Article on Open Source/Linux stuff
On Fri, 2003-02-21 at 11:44, Erik Price wrote: > I hadn't heard about this part: > > > What could derail Linux? The biggest risks are intellectual-property > issues. SCO Group, holder of the original patents for Unix software upon > which Linux is based, has announced plans to form a licensing division > and hire superlawyer David Boies to press its claims against sellers of > Linux. > So you're saying that SCO's finally found a revenue stream? What a bunch of B%*#($%s. -- Rob Lembree 29 Milk St. JumpShift, LLC Nashua, NH 03064-1651[EMAIL PROTECTED] Phone: 603.577.9714 PGP: 1F EE F8 58 30 F1 B1 20 C5 4F 12 21 AD 0D 6B 29 ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss
my slides from the quarterly meeting last night (text)
Hi everyone, This is the set of slides that Paul Lussier and I came up with and presented last night at the quarterly meeting. As promised, I'm making them available on the list, with some commentary intermixed (the slides don't tell the whole story). I'm posting this to both -discuss and -org so that everyone sees it, but would prefer to carry on discussions about this on -org, so that those who don't care don't get barraged with mail. As you know, I've replaced Bruce Dawson as co-chair, along with Paul Lussier. We've spent time with those on the gnhlug-org mailing list, coming up with how we'd like to see GNHLUG progress, and these slides cover what we see is a good course for the organization to take. Our plan makes all attempts at preserving the organization as it stands, because as it stands, it has a tremendous amount of value to our members, and a culture that fits well with what we do, and the people involved. We have fun, we all learn, and it should stay that way. We do think that there are a lot of people who'd like get into the community to advance Linux, and a lot of Linux advocacy and education that can be done, and that the LUG can provide the framework for that to happen. An excellent example of this is how the seacoast LUG's done a lot of entry-level Linux education for the UNH community. This is by no means an edict, in spite of the fact that we're "benevolent dictators", but we've put a lot of thought into this, and believe that it's the best direction for the LUG. So here it is. The State of GNHLUG ;-) Rob Lembree, JumpShift, LLC [EMAIL PROTECTED] Paul Lussier [EMAIL PROTECTED] co-chairs, GNHLUG GNHLUG Mission: Linux and Open Source Education and Advocacy We need a mission to guide us. When we do things, we should measure it against the mission. When we look at what we've done, we should see if we've lived up the mission. I think that this mission statement is pretty much what we've been doing all along, but perhaps limited in scope to existing members in many cases. Steps toward the goal * Do what we do now, but do it better * Regularly scheduled and publicized meetings This is important. People won't take the organization seriously if we're not reliable with our schedule and quality of talks. Planning in advance and publicizing will let "outsiders" benefit from our meetings as well. * Community outreach (aside from meetings) * Talks - Schools, governments, business organizations, libraries... - Install-fests - Cooperation with other organizations To some extent, we've been doing this, but it's been a handful of people. It'd be great to have more organization in doing this, making it easier for folks to volunteer to do talks, installfests, etc. The idea is to lower everyone's time commitment by getting more people to do smaller tasks. Some things needed... * Formalize the organization - Move away from benevolent dictatorship - Need more than a handful of people ~on the hook~ * 501(c)(3) filing - Requires formal organization * Linux International membership - Requires 501(c)(3) * Drive to fulfill the mission Note how these items build on one another. Formalizing * Critical to Preserve the organization's culture * Develop a charter (Ben Boulanger leading this) * Formalize membership - Not yet sure what this means! * Formalize elected positions * Sign up people to lead tasks (accountability) - Publicity - Local LUG leadership (doing this now!) We're asking people interested in being part of the group that defines this organization to join the gnhlug-org list now, and provide constructive commentary. If you want to be part of writing a charter, please contact Ben Boulanger now. I've asked him to complete the work by the vernal equinox (first of spring). Regarding membership, we don't believe that the email list is s good membership list. Some people on the mailing list don't really care who's leading the organization, they view the list as a great technical resource, and that's it. Others care a lot, show up to meetings, and get involved in the more active aspects of the organization. We'd like to hear from people how we should structure membership. It's been suggested by a few people that we have free "associate members", and "voting members", which will vot
[Fwd: [gnhlug-announce] Quarterly Meeting Announcement - 29 Jan2003, 19:30, Martha's Exchange]
Cross-post to make sure that everyone knows about this! -- Rob LembreeMetro Link Incorporated 29 Milk St. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Nashua, NH 03064-1651 http://www.metrolink.com Phone: 954.660.2460 Alternate: 603.577.9714 PGP: 1F EE F8 58 30 F1 B1 20 C5 4F 12 21 AD 0D 6B 29 --- Begin Message --- Details of the meeting: Who:Vince McHugh, Systems Support Manager NECS\Canon What: High End Linux Printing, using CUPS, & Scanning and Imaging documents to a Linux desktop. When: 19:30, 29 January 2003 (Note, this is NEXT week) (Dinner @ 18:00ish - RSVP <mailto:"[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=RSVP> ) Where: 2nd floor, Martha's Exchange, Nashua, NH Directions: http://wiki.gnhlug.org/twiki2/bin/view/Www/Marthas_directions Vince will expound up Enterprise printing, scanning, and imaging using Linux and the CUPS printing system Additionally, the Reluctant Co-Chairmen, Paul and Rob, will explain their new vision of GNHLUG and it's co-operation with Linux International to become the model Linux User's Group. Since this is a QUARTERLY meeting, there will be *NO* Nashua/MerriLUG/MEBDALUG/MELBA meeting tonight (22 Jan 2003) -- Seeya, Paul Key fingerprint = 1660 FECC 5D21 D286 F853 E808 BB07 9239 53F1 28EE Reluctant Co-Chairman, Greater New Hampshire Linux User's Group (GNHLUG) Reluctant Chairman, Nashua Chapter GNHLUG http://www.gnhlug.org Events: http://md.appropriatesolutions.com/gnhlug/lug_cal/month.php ___ gnhlug-announce mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-announce ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss --- End Message ---
Re: Central LUG Meeting
On Tue, 2003-01-07 at 11:01, Erik Price wrote: > I just checked the calendar and didn't see any of the MELBA meetings > posted -- is that a to-do, or am I just missing something? We'll be posting something soon. We're looking at the 22nd of January for the delayed quarterly meeting. How many people are going to Linux World, since this date conflicts? r > Also, by chance are these calendars available as iCalendar subscriptions? > > > Erik > > ___ > gnhlug-discuss mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss -- Rob LembreeMetro Link Incorporated 29 Milk St. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Nashua, NH 03064-1651 http://www.metrolink.com Phone: 954.660.2460 Alternate: 603.577.9714 PGP: 1F EE F8 58 30 F1 B1 20 C5 4F 12 21 AD 0D 6B 29 ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss
RE: AT&T Cable price increase in Nashua, DSL alternative?
On Thu, 2002-12-26 at 18:10, Travis Roy wrote: > > So, I'm looking for alternatives. We're in the middle of a > > great DSL topic, which I'm watching carefully, but can anyone > > speak to DSL service in Nashua? I'm sure that there are a > > lot of data-only cable subscribers who'll be looking to jump > > away from AT&T now that they've gotten even greedier. > > Yah, it sucks.. No to mention they changed the upstream from 368k to > 255k and didn't tell ANYBODY about it, it just happened. That would explain a few things with my IP phone, it was humming along fine, and got flaky a month or two back. > > On a related topic, anyone know if other companies can use > > the cable system as a last mile delivery mechanism, or is > > this part of their monopoly? > > You can get Earthlink service over cable, but it costs the same ammount. > When DSL first started popping up I wouldn't go near it, way to flakey, > lots of friends with problems.. But with anything new it got better. I'm > VERY happy with my DSL and would never switch back unless of course I > moved to far away from a CO to get DSL. Actually, it's $49.95, which is $10 a month cheaper than AT&T service on the same lines. > And my usual plug for MV, they're local, small, good, and they leave you > the hell alone :) Ya, I'd love to give them the business, but they're just not price competitive with DSL. Their website shows $100 for 1.5/384, compared to Covad's $70/mo for the same service. I telecommute, so the speed's important. I don't move a lot of data, but when I do, I don't want to site around waiting. Time's money. > ___ > gnhlug-discuss mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss -- Rob LembreeMetro Link Incorporated 29 Milk St. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Nashua, NH 03064-1651 http://www.metrolink.com Phone: 954.660.2460 Alternate: 603.577.9714 PGP: 1F EE F8 58 30 F1 B1 20 C5 4F 12 21 AD 0D 6B 29 ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss
AT&T Cable price increase in Nashua, DSL alternative?
So I got this letter in the mail today from AT&T saying that unless I use them for cable television, my broadband price is going to go up to $60.95. This is nothing more than extortion, and I'm not going to go for it. I hate cable TV, my satellite's much cheaper, with better signal, more channels, I get high-def, and I don't rent their crappy equipment every month. What's that about cold, dead hands? So, I'm looking for alternatives. We're in the middle of a great DSL topic, which I'm watching carefully, but can anyone speak to DSL service in Nashua? I'm sure that there are a lot of data-only cable subscribers who'll be looking to jump away from AT&T now that they've gotten even greedier. On a related topic, anyone know if other companies can use the cable system as a last mile delivery mechanism, or is this part of their monopoly? Basically, I'm going to ditch AT&T even if it costs more, purely on principal. -- Rob LembreeMetro Link Incorporated 29 Milk St. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Nashua, NH 03064-1651 http://www.metrolink.com Phone: 954.660.2460 Alternate: 603.577.9714 PGP: 1F EE F8 58 30 F1 B1 20 C5 4F 12 21 AD 0D 6B 29 ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss
Re: replacement for netscrape mail
On Fri, 2002-12-20 at 13:19, Rodent of Unusual Size wrote: > one big aspect is that i have several *gb* of mail archived in > netscrape mbox+ format (mbox plus their .snm index file). so > whatever mua i move to needs to at least be able to handle the > mbox files, and preferably the index files as well. > > and lastly, the mua needs to be able to leave pop messages on the > server, and keep track of its own pop state and not rely on any > notion the server may have about which ones are new and which > have already been downloaded. If it didn't have to run on Windoze, I'd say Evolution. I've been using it for probably 2 years now, and I love it. It does pretty much everything that I've ever wanted it to do, and doesn't slow down with 20,000 items in the inbox (or maybe it's a 2GHz CPU and fast memory, I dunno) It imports your several GB of NS mail and settings as well. > so.. anyone have any suggestions? will mozilla do it? or opera? mail and web are fundamentally different applications. Why any self-respecting Unix coder would cram them into one monolithic app is beyond me. I don't think that I'd ever go back to such a beast. > tia! -- Rob LembreeMetro Link Incorporated 29 Milk St. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Nashua, NH 03064-1651 http://www.metrolink.com Phone: 954.660.2460 Alternate: 603.577.9714 PGP: 1F EE F8 58 30 F1 B1 20 C5 4F 12 21 AD 0D 6B 29 ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss
Re: Benson, NH, and open source (fwd)
On Tue, 2002-12-10 at 21:33, Greg Rundlett wrote: > My contact tells me that the guy to talk with is Jesse Devitte >"This guy appears to clearly be the key contact right now > for any IT related initiative under Benson." He has his own web site at > http://www.vmvusa.com/ (profile at http://www.vmvusa.com/team.htm) > > Benson's current online presence is at http://www.mynhbiz.com > > He has another site devoted to "transition" stuff at > http://bensontransition.com/. Here you can email him on areas of interest. > > There apparently was an article in the Union Leader? that lists Benson's > key IT staff, and my friend is sending me a copy. If I glean any worthy > info from the article, I'll post it to the list. Excellent, thanks for helping out! This is great information! > > I'll let you all know how this proceeds. > > Please do, I would love to get NH into the leadership role of Government > that uses Open Source. My motto is "Live Free or Buy". I have your name in my rolodex now. ;-) > > This is EXACTLY what I think that LUGs should be doing, > > by the way. If we're not telling others about Linux > > and open source, we're kind of a closed group, wouldn't > > you think? > > Agreed. -- Rob LembreeMetro Link Incorporated 29 Milk St. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Nashua, NH 03064-1651 http://www.metrolink.com Phone: 954.660.2460 Alternate: 603.577.9714 PGP: 1F EE F8 58 30 F1 B1 20 C5 4F 12 21 AD 0D 6B 29 ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss
Re: Benson, NH, and open source (fwd)
On Mon, 2002-12-09 at 12:07, Thomas M. Albright wrote: > Here's a thought ... That's a great idea!!! I already did it!!! ;-) Last week, when the budget cuts became an issue in the media, I emailed his transitional office, giving a quick open source overview, and introducing the LUG as an educational and technical resource. I asked for a personal call back to set up some initial meetings and to go into more detail. I haven't heard back, but will follow up if I don't. I'll let you all know how this proceeds. This is EXACTLY what I think that LUGs should be doing, by the way. If we're not telling others about Linux and open source, we're kind of a closed group, wouldn't you think? regards, rob > -- Forwarded message -- > Date: Mon, 9 Dec 2002 11:56:29 -0500 (EST) > From: David R. Dick > To: Thomas M. Albright > Subject: Benson, NH, and open source > > > Now that Benson is talking about the state's computer > systems (27 different ones) and the need to integrate > and otherwise fix them, there is a unique opportunity > for open source. I just don't know if there is enough > gumption around to even begin that battle. > > I don't know if you read slash-dot, but every now > and then there are encouraging reports about government > and open source, e.g., > > http://newsforge.com/newsforge/02/12/04/2346215.shtml?tid=19 -- Rob LembreeMetro Link Incorporated 29 Milk St. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Nashua, NH 03064-1651 http://www.metrolink.com Phone: 954.660.2460 Alternate: 603.577.9714 PGP: 1F EE F8 58 30 F1 B1 20 C5 4F 12 21 AD 0D 6B 29 ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss
Re: Resignation
On Wed, 2002-12-04 at 11:46, Bruce Dawson wrote: > Hi! I had intended on announcing this at tonight's meeting, but since there's no > meeting, and I don't want to impede progress, I'm doing it via email. > > I wanted to let people know that I'm handing in my resignation as co-chairman of > GNHLUG. Effective today. My work commitments are preventing me from doing an > effective job as a chairman. > > I would like you to continue supporting Paul Lussier as the co-chairman, and to > give your support to my replacement: Rob Lembree. Rob has been an ardent GNHLUG > supporter since the very early days and promises to bring focused and effective > leadership to the group. Hi everyone, I'm sure that I speak for everyone when I send a hearty thank-you to Bruce for his service to the LUG as a co-chair. I also want to thank Bruce for his recommendation of me to replace him. Since we have an informal "membership", it goes without saying that we have no formal election process for this sort of thing, often resulting in someone getting suckered into the role of chair, and indeed, this has resulted in the title of "reluctant chair". ;-) So, unless anyone has objections or concerns, I'm happy to take on this role. I hope that I can be of service. This isn't the first time I've been asked to do this, but it is the first time that I've agreed. At other times, I didn't know what I'd do as a leader (or co-leader, as the case may be). Over the last several months however, I've found myself thinking that LUGs are the heart of Linux. It's not the code so much as it's the people and the ideals that they share. That being the case, I've decided that it's not up to companies to move Linux into schools, governments, businesses and homes, as much as it's up to us, the LUGs. So what does this mean LUGs should be doing? The two words that leap to mind for me are "education" and "advocacy". We're doing a lot of this now, but I think that we can make what we're already doing reach more people, especially outside the group! Also, with a little planning, I think that we can do more to convince people that open source works. I spoke to Paul Lussier, the other co-chair, and we have a plan for world domination. We'll be getting together this weekend to organize our thoughts so that we can present something cohesive to the membership. After that, I'd like to plan sort of an organizational meeting that's open to anyone wanting to play a role in moving the LUG forward, probably in about two weeks or so. This would be sort of a "beer and brainstorming" session. More later. thanks, r > I will continue participating in the group, and CodeMeta will continue hosting > the GNHLUG web site(s) and mailing lists. > > If you have any questions or comments, please post them and I'll try to respond > in a timely fashion. > > Meanwhile: Have a happy and safe holiday! > > --Bruce > > PS: Mail sent to [EMAIL PROTECTED] will go to Paul and Rob. > > ------------- > This mail sent through IMP: www.milessmithfarm.net > ___ > gnhlug-discuss mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss -- Rob LembreeMetro Link Incorporated 29 Milk St. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Nashua, NH 03064-1651 http://www.metrolink.com Phone: 954.660.2460 Alternate: 603.577.9714 PGP: 1F EE F8 58 30 F1 B1 20 C5 4F 12 21 AD 0D 6B 29 ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss
[gnhlug-announce] Holiday dinner meeting
Hi Folks, Because time's short, we've had difficulty with a location, and because of poor response to a dinner meeting in early December, we've decided to defer the dinner meeting until January. We'll announce details a little later, and again take a poll as to who'd be interested in coming. We're looking for cash sponsors to help defray the cost of the dinner meeting. If you know of a company who may be interested in sponsoring or co-sponsoring this meeting, please send mail to gnhlug-org. Also, you may have noted that the fourth Wednesday of December happens to be a holiday, so there will be no MELBA meeting in December. Enjoy the holidays, whatever you happen to call them! regards, rob -- Rob Lembree 29 Milk St. JumpShift, LLC Nashua, NH 03064-1651[EMAIL PROTECTED] Phone: 603.577.9714 PGP: 1F EE F8 58 30 F1 B1 20 C5 4F 12 21 AD 0D 6B 29 ___ gnhlug-announce mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-announce ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss
Re: kernel building question
On Tue, 2002-11-26 at 09:37, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Hi all, > > In my quest for total revision control of everything I do with my > environment, I commited the entire 2.4.19 kernel tree to my > repository. During that process, I realized there are several > sub-hierarchies under the arch/ directory I'll almost certainly never > compile a kernel for such as everything other than i386. > > My question. Can I just 'rm -rf' the sub-dirs I don't need so that > the only sub-dir of arch is 'i286' and still compile a useful kernel? I assume that you mean 'i386'. Sure, you can do that. You can also blow away a lot of other architectures' support in include/, such as asm-mips and so on. Be careful with binaries -- you need to use -kb if you submit binary data to CVS. > Thanks, > > Btw: useful command tidbit, try: > ls -m Cool. Yet another thing that's great on Linux, but don't expect it any place else!! The more I use Linux, the more that commercial *nix's look like antiques. > sometime. I don't know how many times I've come up with a > sed/awk/perl script to do exactly this :) -- Rob LembreeMetro Link Incorporated 29 Milk St. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Nashua, NH 03064-1651 http://www.metrolink.com Phone: 954.660.2460 Alternate: 603.577.9714 PGP: 1F EE F8 58 30 F1 B1 20 C5 4F 12 21 AD 0D 6B 29 ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss
Re: sorta OT: company names
On Mon, 2002-09-23 at 18:03, Erik Price wrote: > > > Thanks to everyone who provided input on getting registered. If it's > not too expensive, becoming a LLC sounds like the best move. I'm not > doing any "professional" software development right now, but I don't > want to rule it out. Bear in mind that if you choose to become an LLC, there is regular paperwork that needs to be filed with the state and the fed. An LLC is a taxable entity, even though the taxes flow through the members. Be sure that you're aware of all the paperwork that comes with being an LLC. > The app I'm developing is a simple scheduling system and, as I said, > when I have a beta I'll post the source on Freshmeat. It's to be > written in Java. > > > Erik > > > > -- > Erik Price (zombies roam) > > email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > ___ > gnhlug-discuss mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss -- Rob LembreeMetro Link Incorporated 29 Milk St. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Nashua, NH 03064-1651 http://www.metrolink.com Phone: 954.660.2460 Alternate: 603.577.9714 PGP: 1F EE F8 58 30 F1 B1 20 C5 4F 12 21 AD 0D 6B 29 ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss
Re: smallest pingable device
On Fri, 2002-09-06 at 10:47, Michael O'Donnell wrote: > > > >> What's the smallest device I can connect > >> to a 10/100 Enet that will answer pings? > > > >Maybe something like a micro print server? Lantronix > >has some pretty tiny (1" x 2.3" x 3.3") ones: > >http://www.lantronix.com/products/ps/mps/index.html > > > Thanks - that's the sort of thing I had in mind - > anybody know of something smaller/cheaper/simpler? Our company makes a teeny-tiny unix-like operating system that runs on teeny-tiny processors. If you're looking for something in quantity (i.e., more than hobbyist), I can give you some specifics. Otherwise, I think that the TINI would be a good solution. http://www.ibutton.com/TINI/ I've used TINI on a couple of applications, and it's a pretty neat little machine. You can get set up for around $70. > > ___ > gnhlug-discuss mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss -- Rob LembreeMetro Link Incorporated 29 Milk St. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Nashua, NH 03064-1651 http://www.metrolink.com Phone: 954.660.2460 Alternate: 603.577.9714 PGP: 1F EE F8 58 30 F1 B1 20 C5 4F 12 21 AD 0D 6B 29 ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss
There *WILL* be a meeting tonight
The speaker will be none other than our own Jon 'maddog' Hall, who will be detailing what's included in the Linux 2.5 kernel, and what this means to sysadmins and programmers. He plans to do the talk very fast (and at that, it will take an hour!!) and at the 10,000 foot level. Following the talk, we'll adjourn and continue the conversation at whatever level of detail we all want or have the expertise available for! The meeting will be on the second floor of Martha's Exchange, at 187 Main St. in Nashua, NH, and will start at 7:00. Those who wish to join us for dinner may do so downstairs at Martha's beginning around 5:30. Reservations are not required. regards, rob -- Rob LembreeMetro Link Incorporated 29 Milk St. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Nashua, NH 03064-1651 http://www.metrolink.com Phone: 954.660.2460 Alternate: 603.577.9714 PGP: 1F EE F8 58 30 F1 B1 20 C5 4F 12 21 AD 0D 6B 29 ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss
Re: MELBA wed
So far we've only got two people besides maddog and myself, and nobody with a projector. I propose that unless we get some more folks interested in the near future, that we just meet for open source beer at 1800 or thereabouts. r -- Rob LembreeMetro Link Incorporated 29 Milk St. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Nashua, NH 03064-1651 http://www.metrolink.com Phone: 954.660.2460 Alternate: 603.577.9714 PGP: 1F EE F8 58 30 F1 B1 20 C5 4F 12 21 AD 0D 6B 29 ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss
Re: MELBA wed
On Tue, 2002-08-27 at 14:06, Jon Hall wrote: > I could give my talk about the new things in the V2.5 kernel and what they > mean to systems admins and programmers, if anyone would be interested. I should > warn you that to do it in an hour I have to talk very fast and leave it at > the 10,000 foot level. > > I would need an LCD projector. Well, can someone come up with a projector? Can we get a show of hands as to who would come if we were to have such a meeting? > md > -- > = > Jon "maddog" Hall > Executive Director Linux International(SM) > email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 80 Amherst St. > Voice: +1.603.672.4557 Amherst, N.H. 03031-3032 U.S.A. > WWW: http://www.li.org > > Board Member: Uniforum Association, USENIX Association > > (R)Linux is a registered trademark of Linus Torvalds in several countries. > (SM)Linux International is a service mark of Linux International, Inc. > > ___ > gnhlug-discuss mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss -- Rob LembreeMetro Link Incorporated 29 Milk St. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Nashua, NH 03064-1651 http://www.metrolink.com Phone: 954.660.2460 Alternate: 603.577.9714 PGP: 1F EE F8 58 30 F1 B1 20 C5 4F 12 21 AD 0D 6B 29 ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss
Re: MELBA wed
On Tue, 2002-08-27 at 09:32, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > In a message dated: Mon, 26 Aug 2002 23:09:22 EDT > Erik Price said: > > >Is there in fact a MELBA meeting on Wednesday night? I understand that > >there was something last week but then there was some talk of another > >meeting this week? > > To my knowledge, there is no MELBA meeting this week. However, if > you'd all like to meet at Martha's feel free to congregate :) Does anyone have any talk prepared that they'd like to present? Also, since school's coming back into session, perhaps we should plan a meeting at DWC and/or Rivier so that we can convert a few college students away from the Dark Side. > I goofed and scheduled last weeks meeting for the wrong week, which > seemed to work out well since we didn't have anyone to give a talk :) > > If people want to get together this week and use the room upstairs, > let me know and I'll call Martha's and make sure it's available. > -- > > Seeya, > Paul > -- > It may look like I'm just sitting here doing nothing, >but I'm really actively waiting for all my problems to go away. > >If you're not having fun, you're not doing it right! > > > ___________ > gnhlug-discuss mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss -- Rob LembreeMetro Link Incorporated 29 Milk St. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Nashua, NH 03064-1651 http://www.metrolink.com Phone: 954.660.2460 Alternate: 603.577.9714 PGP: 1F EE F8 58 30 F1 B1 20 C5 4F 12 21 AD 0D 6B 29 ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss