Re: GNHLUG RSS feeds, was Re: GNHLUG.Www - Automated notification of topic changes

2006-05-03 Thread Neil Schelly
On Tuesday 02 May 2006 03:32 pm, Marc Nozell wrote:
 A lot of search sites (google, technorati, MSN search, etc) let you
 setup searchs that return in RSS format.  For example anytime someone
 mentions, say my name, in a blog, it shows up in the aggregator.
 Flickr lets you create feeds based on particular tags, say all those
 photos tagged with MySQLUC06.

Just a short opportunity to pimp the company I work for... PubSub Concepts 
(www.pubsub.com) has a pretty good prospective search engine for this kind of 
stuff.  RSS in particular is popular, but you can setup searches in all sorts 
of different data sources and get matching results posted to an RSS feed in 
real time.
-N
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GNHLUG RSS feeds, was Re: GNHLUG.Www - Automated notification of topic changes

2006-05-02 Thread Ted Roche
BTW, the RSS feeds are working at this point. Issuing valid RSS 1.0  
(RDF) and passes the tests at feedvalidator.org (today, anyway).


Subscriptions are on a web basis, so to subscribe to changes in the  
Www web, use the URL:


http://wiki.gnhlug.org/twiki2/bin/view/Www/WebRss?skin=rss

Change the Www to Main or Organizational to subscribe to them.

Ted Roche
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Re: GNHLUG RSS feeds, was Re: GNHLUG.Www - Automated notification of topic changes

2006-05-02 Thread Ben Scott

On 5/2/06, Ted Roche [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

BTW, the RSS feeds are working at this point. Issuing valid RSS 1.0
(RDF) and passes the tests at feedvalidator.org (today, anyway).

Subscriptions are on a web basis, so to subscribe to changes in the
Www web, use the URL:


 I'm not sure (I don't use RSS myself), but I think this

http://wiki.gnhlug.org/twiki2/bin/view/Www/UpcomingEvents?skin=rss

might work as well.  It certainly does *something*.  Maybe if you feed
that to the right software, it will become a feed of upcoming events,
or something like that.  :)

 There is also a way to be notified by email (which I use):

http://wiki.gnhlug.org/twiki2/bin/view/TWiki/WebNotify

-- Ben Doesn't get the hype over RSS Scott

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Re: GNHLUG RSS feeds, was Re: GNHLUG.Www - Automated notification of topic changes

2006-05-02 Thread Ted Roche

On May 2, 2006, at 11:02 AM, Ben Scott wrote:


 I'm not sure (I don't use RSS myself), but I think this

http://wiki.gnhlug.org/twiki2/bin/view/Www/UpcomingEvents?skin=rss

might work as well.  It certainly does *something*.  Maybe if you feed
that to the right software, it will become a feed of upcoming events,
or something like that.  :)


No, I'm afraid that is an unholy mashup of a TWiki topic (in HTML)  
and a TWiki skin overlay (in pidgeon-XML)


Getting the TWiki to generate RSS at all was an elegant hack, but  
it's only been implemented at the web-wide level.



 There is also a way to be notified by email (which I use):

http://wiki.gnhlug.org/twiki2/bin/view/TWiki/WebNotify


Yup, I'm subscribed to all of them.


-- Ben Doesn't get the hype over RSS Scott


I've been a huge enthusiast for years now. I use RSS to skim  
headlines every day in the New York Times, InfoWorld, Computer World,  
Slashdot, OSNews, Ars Technica, and dozens of other sites (the  
complete list is in the righthand column at http://radio.weblogs.com/ 
0117767), post a number of blogs with RSS feeds, and used RSS to  
intercommunicate between apps in the past. RSS is a simple XML  
format, but the combination of that with XML-RPC and smart readers  
and aggregators has lead to some pretty nity communities, with more  
innovation coming along. RSS Rocks.


Ted Roche
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Re: GNHLUG RSS feeds, was Re: GNHLUG.Www - Automated notification of topic changes

2006-05-02 Thread Ben Scott

On 5/2/06, Ted Roche [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 -- Ben Doesn't get the hype over RSS Scott

I've been a huge enthusiast for years now RSS Rocks.


 So when are you giving a presentation on RSS?  :-)

-- Ben I'm serious Scott

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Re: GNHLUG RSS feeds, was Re: GNHLUG.Www - Automated notification of topic changes

2006-05-02 Thread Ted Roche

2003 and 2004, iirc: http://www.tedroche.com/papers.php

Guess you missed it.

I'd have to dust them off and learn a bit more about what's new with  
RSS. Ed Lawson gave a demo on an RSS reader, Straw, to CentraLUG a  
while ago. David Berube will be doing an upcoming presentation on RSS  
and Ruby.


What sort of aspects would you (or any others, please) be interested  
in? RSS is built into the latest browsers, there are a zillion  
readers available, and most blogging software or community software  
(TWiki. Joomla, Xaraya) generates RSS automatically. Are folks  
interested in the dirty little format details, the big picture, what  
software is out there... ideas?


On May 2, 2006, at 11:56 AM, Ben Scott wrote:


On 5/2/06, Ted Roche [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 -- Ben Doesn't get the hype over RSS Scott

I've been a huge enthusiast for years now RSS Rocks.


 So when are you giving a presentation on RSS?  :-)

-- Ben I'm serious Scott

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Re: GNHLUG RSS feeds, was Re: GNHLUG.Www - Automated notification of topic changes

2006-05-02 Thread Cole Tuininga
On Tue, 2006-05-02 at 13:39 -0400, Ted Roche wrote:
 2003 and 2004, iirc: http://www.tedroche.com/papers.php
 
 What sort of aspects would you (or any others, please) be interested  
 in? 

For some of us, that question is its own answer in a sense.  Part of
what I'd like to know is Why should I be interested in RSS, and what
aspects are there?

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Cole Tuininga [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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Re: GNHLUG RSS feeds, was Re: GNHLUG.Www - Automated notification of topic changes

2006-05-02 Thread Tom Buskey
On 5/2/06, Cole Tuininga [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Tue, 2006-05-02 at 13:39 -0400, Ted Roche wrote: 2003 and 2004, iirc: http://www.tedroche.com/papers.php What sort of aspects would you (or any others, please) be interested
 in?For some of us, that question is its own answer in a sense.Part ofwhat I'd like to know is Why should I be interested in RSS, and whataspects are there?I was using the Sage extension in firefox and now I use bloglines to read RSS feeds. I've been using RSS for about a year now.
If you're an old internet user, RSS is like news groups. It shows the headlines of each subject you haven't seen yet.So, instead of going to slashdot.org, I read the RSS and see only the newest headlines that I didn't see the last time I went to my RSS reader.
If you keep up on a number of web sites, RSS lets you see just the stuff that's changed. If you want more info you can drill down into the link. Some readers allow you to keep something new every time you go to the reader.
RSS lets me skim many more websites in the same amount of time. Or the same sites in less time. It's great to get the latest from NY Times, O'Reilly, Slashdot, Sun BigAdmin, Debian News, etc... And you don't have to sift through the stuff you already saw.
I'm sure there's more to RSS then that, but that's what I get from bloglines.com and Sage.-- A strong conviction that something must be done is the parent of many bad measures.
- Daniel Webster


Re: GNHLUG RSS feeds, was Re: GNHLUG.Www - Automated notification of topic changes

2006-05-02 Thread Marc Nozell
On Tue, May 02, 2006 at 01:45:23PM -0400, Cole Tuininga wrote:
 On Tue, 2006-05-02 at 13:39 -0400, Ted Roche wrote:
  What sort of aspects would you (or any others, please) be interested  
  in? 
 
 For some of us, that question is its own answer in a sense.  Part of
 what I'd like to know is Why should I be interested in RSS, and what
 aspects are there?

The short answer is you, as a knowledge worker, can better keep
yourself informed with what is happening out there in news,
(tech|politics) blogs, wikis, and pretty much any frequently-updated
site.  

A lot of search sites (google, technorati, MSN search, etc) let you
setup searchs that return in RSS format.  For example anytime someone
mentions, say my name, in a blog, it shows up in the aggregator.
Flickr lets you create feeds based on particular tags, say all those
photos tagged with MySQLUC06.

My personal RSS aggregator of choice is currently http://bloglines.com
with over 300 feeds (not that it is ever 'caught up')

It really changes the way I use the web.  No longer do I hit
slashdot.org, cnn.com, cnet.com, sourceforge.net looking for new info.
Nor do I have to remember to check in with amusing blogs like jwz.org
to see if he has updated -- now it just shows up in my list of feeds.

-marc
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Re: GNHLUG RSS feeds, was Re: GNHLUG.Www - Automated notification of topic changes

2006-05-02 Thread Kevin D. Clark

 http://bloglines.com

Another thumbs up for bloglines.  One nice thing about this site is
that if you frequently use multiple computers (I do) they will all
naturally be in-sync.  That is, if I catch-up with a feed at 6am on
one computer and then hit bloglines on another computer at 8am, I will
only see new posts to that feed.  Very handy.

--kevin
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Re: GNHLUG RSS feeds, was Re: GNHLUG.Www - Automated notification of topic changes

2006-05-02 Thread Bill Mullen
On Tue, 2 May 2006 15:32:39 -0400, Marc Nozell wrote:

 It really changes the way I use the web.  No longer do I hit
 slashdot.org, cnn.com, cnet.com, sourceforge.net looking for new info.
 Nor do I have to remember to check in with amusing blogs like jwz.org
 to see if he has updated -- now it just shows up in my list of feeds.

Seconded. I use Liferea (http://liferea.sf.net) as my RSS app, and team
that up with Dillo (http://www.dillo.org) as its external browser. This
combo has drastically cut the time that it takes me to keep up with the
sites I like to follow; Liferea lets me pick and choose those articles
that I truly want to read from among the rest, and Dillo fires up almost
instantly while completely ignoring all of the rubbish (Flash, etc.) to
be found on many of these pages, stuff which only wastes my bandwidth
and tries to distract my attention from the information that I seek.

-- 
Bill Mullen
RLU #270075
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