RE: People still interested in shared colo?

2006-03-29 Thread Brian
 

> -Original Message-
> 
> Oh, that dodge also brings this to mind...
> 
> http://www.servercase.com/miva/miva?/Merchant2/merchant.mv+Scr
> een=PROD&Store_Code=SC&Product_Code=CK147&Category_Code=1UE
> 
> Neat, eh?
> 
> --DTVZ


Yeah, almost makes me want to find a reason to buy one :)

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RE: People still interested in shared colo?

2006-03-29 Thread Brian
 
I've actually got a couple of Cisco 2511 Async servers.  I didn't think
about serial consoles, but I guess that can be provided as well if there is
a need.  In the 8 years I've had a server colo'd, I've never had a need for
a serial console though.

> -Original Message-
> 
> Serial consoles in this setup I'd suggest maybe people 
> could "buddy up" and set up a serial crossover cable between 
> two systems...
> this would require shell access and minicom, but would be 
> (aside from the security implications and cost of one serial 
> cable) essentially free.
> 
>

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Re: People still interested in shared colo?

2006-03-28 Thread Bill McGonigle

On Mar 28, 2006, at 15:31, Drew Van Zandt wrote:


Also, you can run a Pentium M on mini-ITX boards these days, at least.
 That's not *too* weak a processor.


I have an embedded 1.7(8?) GHz Pentium-M-based appliance I'm working on 
and it's really nice.  Cool, quiet, quick.  On the other hand the board 
at that link is an 800MHz Via C3.  I have one of those as my Asterisk 
server, and it's, well, it's an i686 missing a few instructions so you 
have to compile as i586 for everything which isn't automatically 
detected.  The performance is fine for what it is, probably like a 
500MHz P3.


Still, that box might suck for performance, but if you had a mission 
critical app (thinking physical security, monitoring a nuclear power 
plant, etc.) it would be great to have a cookie-cutter box with a 
heartbeat between mobos with a linux-HA thing and maybe Oracle's new 
clusterfs on it.


-Bill

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Re: People still interested in shared colo?

2006-03-28 Thread Drew Van Zandt
On the other hand, a single server has only one motherboard.  I like
the idea of being able to do a full *cold* boot of the hardware while
the other half is still running.  I know there are servers with
redundant power supplies etc. that would be as reliable as two
entirely separate systems (except for physically being in the same
box, they even use separate power supplies)...

Also, you can run a Pentium M on mini-ITX boards these days, at least.
 That's not *too* weak a processor.

--DTVZ

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Re: People still interested in shared colo?

2006-03-28 Thread Neil Schelly
On Tuesday 28 March 2006 01:57 pm, Drew Van Zandt wrote:
> Oh, that dodge also brings this to mind...
>
> http://www.servercase.com/miva/miva?/Merchant2/merchant.mv+Screen=PROD&Stor
>e_Code=SC&Product_Code=CK147&Category_Code=1UE
>
> Neat, eh?
>

Definitely has neato factor, but not much utility.  A single, even just 
reasonably powerful, server in that box would outperform that by far and you 
could run several virtual machines in it to get the "multiple machine" feel.  
I've been playing with Xen a bunch lately and it's proven quite flexible and 
powerful.  You could get a typical 1U server with dual procs or something and 
RAID together two hard drives, and then run 4 or more virtual machines that 
would each outperform those two ITX platforms.
-N
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Re: People still interested in shared colo?

2006-03-28 Thread Drew Van Zandt
Oh, that dodge also brings this to mind...

http://www.servercase.com/miva/miva?/Merchant2/merchant.mv+Screen=PROD&Store_Code=SC&Product_Code=CK147&Category_Code=1UE

Neat, eh?

--DTVZ

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Re: People still interested in shared colo?

2006-03-28 Thread Bill McGonigle

On Mar 28, 2006, at 13:07, Drew Van Zandt wrote:


I'd suggest maybe people could
"buddy up" and set up a serial crossover cable between two systems...


That's perfect.  Brilliant suggestion. (I was waaay inside the box)

Marlboro, MA isn't the right place for my server (ya can't get thar 
from here) but I suspect I'll use that trick wherever I find a home.


Thanks,
-Bill
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Re: People still interested in shared colo?

2006-03-28 Thread Drew Van Zandt
Serial consoles in this setup I'd suggest maybe people could
"buddy up" and set up a serial crossover cable between two systems...
this would require shell access and minicom, but would be (aside from
the security implications and cost of one serial cable) essentially
free.

--DTVZ

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Re: People still interested in shared colo?

2006-03-28 Thread Neil Schelly
On Tuesday 28 March 2006 12:50 pm, Bill McGonigle wrote:
> What are folks using for serial consoles these days?  I have an old
> Xyplex box but it only supports telnet. :)
>
> You'd think a basic linux box with a multiport serial card would
> suffice.  But building a whole PC for a serial console seems like
> overkill (but maybe not economically).


At our company, we have two Digis (a Digi CM32 and a Digi CM48) that we use 
for remote serial consoles on our servers/switches/etc.  It's little more 
than a small embedded linux server with a bunch of serial ports (32 and 48 in 
our case) and upgradeability like a PCMCIA slot for a modem or dual power 
supplies in some of the CM48s.

Mind you, I have no idea how economical they are, according to your standards.  
They certainly are a good package though and I imagine any other enterprise 
boxed solution will cost comparably to them.  I would expect building your 
own version would be less expensive though, yes, but you'd lose a good deal 
of it's features.  If you're in the area anytime, I'd be happy to demo them 
for you.
-N
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Re: People still interested in shared colo?

2006-03-28 Thread Bill McGonigle


On Mar 16, 2006, at 10:45, Brian wrote:


As part of this setup you would get:
Rackspace
Power
Remote power-switch access for reboots
*minimal* amount of hot-hands work if needed
Bandwidth (we'll say unlimited for now, but this setup is NOT for
mega-torrent hosting, pr0n serving, etc.  You CAN run a commercial site
though).
Primary DNS server access


What are folks using for serial consoles these days?  I have an old 
Xyplex box but it only supports telnet. :)


You'd think a basic linux box with a multiport serial card would 
suffice.  But building a whole PC for a serial console seems like 
overkill (but maybe not economically).


-Bill

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Re: People still interested in shared colo?

2006-03-20 Thread Christopher Chisholm


Of course I'd be running Linux ;)  Anyway that sounds really good, I'll 
run it by the boss but I'm quite sure he'll want in, something like this 
is just what we've been looking for.


-chris


Brian wrote:

You'll get a block of IP's, probably 4, for your own use.  The internet
connection is "raw", it's up to you to provide your own firewall rules for
whatever ports you want open/closed (generally via iptables (you ARE going
to run linux, right?)).


  

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Subject: Re: People still interested in shared colo?


My company has been looking for download mirrors for our 
software.  For now we are low traffic but eventually we may 
see a good number of downloads.


Around how much would it cost for a 1U space?  We'd 
definitely be low maintenance... mostly everything we need to 
do we do remotely.


Also, how would the IP addressing work?  Would we be able to 
have ports 80, 22, and 3930?









  


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RE: People still interested in shared colo?

2006-03-18 Thread Brian
You'll get a block of IP's, probably 4, for your own use.  The internet
connection is "raw", it's up to you to provide your own firewall rules for
whatever ports you want open/closed (generally via iptables (you ARE going
to run linux, right?)). 


> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of 
> Christopher Chisholm
> Sent: Thursday, March 16, 2006 11:16 AM
> To: Brian
> Cc: gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org
> Subject: Re: People still interested in shared colo?
> 
> 
> My company has been looking for download mirrors for our 
> software.  For now we are low traffic but eventually we may 
> see a good number of downloads.
> 
> Around how much would it cost for a 1U space?  We'd 
> definitely be low maintenance... mostly everything we need to 
> do we do remotely.
> 
> Also, how would the IP addressing work?  Would we be able to 
> have ports 80, 22, and 3930?
> 
>

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RE: People still interested in shared colo?

2006-03-16 Thread Brian
Since people have been asking, I am thinking about $50/U/Month would be
fair.  Let me know what you think.

> -Original Message-
> 
> Sorry if that sounds a little restricting, but I figure it's 
> better to be clear upfront.
> 
> As part of this setup you would get:
> Rackspace
> Power
> Remote power-switch access for reboots
> *minimal* amount of hot-hands work if needed Bandwidth (we'll 
> say unlimited for now, but this setup is NOT for mega-torrent 
> hosting, pr0n serving, etc.  You CAN run a commercial site though).
> Primary DNS server access
> 
> 

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Re: People still interested in shared colo?

2006-03-16 Thread Thomas Charron
  All good, we're probrably all asking the same questions..  ;-)On 3/16/06, Christopher Chisholm <
[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:woops... didn't mean for that to go to the group, sorry
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Re: People still interested in shared colo?

2006-03-16 Thread Christopher Chisholm

woops... didn't mean for that to go to the group, sorry
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Re: People still interested in shared colo?

2006-03-16 Thread Christopher Chisholm


My company has been looking for download mirrors for our software.  For 
now we are low traffic but eventually we may see a good number of downloads.


Around how much would it cost for a 1U space?  We'd definitely be low 
maintenance... mostly everything we need to do we do remotely.


Also, how would the IP addressing work?  Would we be able to have ports 
80, 22, and 3930?


-chris

Brian wrote:

As a sort of follow-on to another thing I'm going to be doing shortly, I
think I am going to move my 1U server into some portion of a leased
rackspace.  Probably 1/2 rack to start, along with a glob of bandwidth.

Someone else is already bringing over a couple of servers, but that will
leave about 14 or 15U of space still.

The colo site is in Marlboro, MA.  I am getting a relatively good deal on
the setup, with the understanding that I am a low-maintenance account.  So,
if anyone is still interested in colo'ing their own 1U or 2U server, we
should talk.  I am not sure of the pricing yet, I don't need to make money
on this, but I can't afford to be Welfare Colo.  The basic premise would be
that you bring and install and maintain your own box.  Once the box is in
place, you would be able to get physical access to it, but I wouldn't want
to have a constant procession of people coming and going, doing constant
hardware upgrades, etc.  Remember "low-maintenance".

Sorry if that sounds a little restricting, but I figure it's better to be
clear upfront.

As part of this setup you would get:
Rackspace
Power
Remote power-switch access for reboots
*minimal* amount of hot-hands work if needed
Bandwidth (we'll say unlimited for now, but this setup is NOT for
mega-torrent hosting, pr0n serving, etc.  You CAN run a commercial site
though).
Primary DNS server access


If anyone is interested please let me know...

Thanks,
Brian.


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Re: People still interested in shared colo?

2006-03-16 Thread Travis Roy

I am in for 2U of space, but you knew that already :)

Let me know what pricing will be like when you get it.

The only major site I host is guster.net (run by Kenta, another GNHLUG 
mailing list member)


Brian wrote:

As a sort of follow-on to another thing I'm going to be doing shortly, I
think I am going to move my 1U server into some portion of a leased
rackspace.  Probably 1/2 rack to start, along with a glob of bandwidth.

Someone else is already bringing over a couple of servers, but that will
leave about 14 or 15U of space still.

The colo site is in Marlboro, MA.  I am getting a relatively good deal on
the setup, with the understanding that I am a low-maintenance account.  So,
if anyone is still interested in colo'ing their own 1U or 2U server, we
should talk.  I am not sure of the pricing yet, I don't need to make money
on this, but I can't afford to be Welfare Colo.  The basic premise would be
that you bring and install and maintain your own box.  Once the box is in
place, you would be able to get physical access to it, but I wouldn't want
to have a constant procession of people coming and going, doing constant
hardware upgrades, etc.  Remember "low-maintenance".

Sorry if that sounds a little restricting, but I figure it's better to be
clear upfront.

As part of this setup you would get:
Rackspace
Power
Remote power-switch access for reboots
*minimal* amount of hot-hands work if needed
Bandwidth (we'll say unlimited for now, but this setup is NOT for
mega-torrent hosting, pr0n serving, etc.  You CAN run a commercial site
though).
Primary DNS server access


If anyone is interested please let me know...

Thanks,
Brian.


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People still interested in shared colo?

2006-03-16 Thread Brian

As a sort of follow-on to another thing I'm going to be doing shortly, I
think I am going to move my 1U server into some portion of a leased
rackspace.  Probably 1/2 rack to start, along with a glob of bandwidth.

Someone else is already bringing over a couple of servers, but that will
leave about 14 or 15U of space still.

The colo site is in Marlboro, MA.  I am getting a relatively good deal on
the setup, with the understanding that I am a low-maintenance account.  So,
if anyone is still interested in colo'ing their own 1U or 2U server, we
should talk.  I am not sure of the pricing yet, I don't need to make money
on this, but I can't afford to be Welfare Colo.  The basic premise would be
that you bring and install and maintain your own box.  Once the box is in
place, you would be able to get physical access to it, but I wouldn't want
to have a constant procession of people coming and going, doing constant
hardware upgrades, etc.  Remember "low-maintenance".

Sorry if that sounds a little restricting, but I figure it's better to be
clear upfront.

As part of this setup you would get:
Rackspace
Power
Remote power-switch access for reboots
*minimal* amount of hot-hands work if needed
Bandwidth (we'll say unlimited for now, but this setup is NOT for
mega-torrent hosting, pr0n serving, etc.  You CAN run a commercial site
though).
Primary DNS server access


If anyone is interested please let me know...

Thanks,
Brian.


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