Re: RH Update
I updated a laptop at work from 7.3 to 8.0 with no problems, even though it didn't have any of the updates, I just think there is a driver issue somewhere with version 8.0 and my hardware. Jason Stephenson wrote: > Well, just for the record. I updated my laptop from RH 7.2 to RH 8.0 > tonight and it went without any real hitches. Only thing was, the > Installer failed to make a boot floppy. I was able to make one manually > with no problem after the upgrade was done. > > I had also been keeping the 7.2 install up to date with the laters RPMs, > not via up to date but by mirrogin updates.redhat.com and mounting the > mirror over NFS and installing manually. > > ___ > gnhlug-discuss mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss
RH Update
Well, just for the record. I updated my laptop from RH 7.2 to RH 8.0 tonight and it went without any real hitches. Only thing was, the Installer failed to make a boot floppy. I was able to make one manually with no problem after the upgrade was done. I had also been keeping the 7.2 install up to date with the laters RPMs, not via up to date but by mirrogin updates.redhat.com and mounting the mirror over NFS and installing manually. ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss
Re: RH update
I gave up I did a new install onto a clean drive, and it still barfed I'm going back to 7.3 Chris John Abreau wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > Chris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > Well, I tried startx after I did ctrl-alt-f1, but an X session was already running > > (the login screen), so that didn't help, but I believe I have another idea to > > help, [rest deleted] > > You can run multiple X sessions simultaneously; each one uses a different > display number. The default is ":0", and when you ran startx, it found > that :0 was already in use. If you specifiy ":1" (or ":2", ...), then > it will try that instead and find that it's not in use: > > startx -- :1 > > You can also tell startx what to run instead of the normal X stuff. At > home > I have a headless Sun server (riven) in my attic, and I set up ssh keys so > I can ssh to it without a password. On my workstation, I run > > startx /usr/bin/ssh riven /usr/dt/bin/Xsession -- :1 > > and soon I get a nice Solaris desktop on the next tty, tunneled through > ssh. > So ctrl-alt-f7 is my Linux desktop and crtl-alt-f8 is my Solaris desktop. > > - -- > John Abreau / Executive Director, Boston Linux & Unix > ICQ 28611923 / AIM abreauj / JABBER [EMAIL PROTECTED] / YAHOO abreauj > Email [EMAIL PROTECTED] / WWW http://www.abreau.net / PGP-Key-ID 0xD5C7B5D9 > PGP-Key-Fingerprint 72 FB 39 4F 3C 3B D6 5B E0 C8 5A 6E F1 2C BE 99 > > -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- > Version: GnuPG v1.0.7 (GNU/Linux) > Comment: Exmh version 2.5 07/13/2001 > > iQCVAwUBPdh351V9A5rVx7XZAQJwSQP/SvN3L/pgw+1KDckLF9nNfY5wnPCyToIh > MOJsEKO/+mwYDaxDWH7qfoqe7fYrCeBsPTT66Gx31hvILTCfw1NNyUl5wAvENChC > +8tuqFKWE/uXlrSCooRYywzQ0T7zafe5l6mFdLjDzYtJoZ2iO/S79oCTLOCx90Qj > 9gD36jvptqs= > =wagb > -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss
Re: RH update
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Chris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Well, I tried startx after I did ctrl-alt-f1, but an X session was already running > (the login screen), so that didn't help, but I believe I have another idea to > help, [rest deleted] You can run multiple X sessions simultaneously; each one uses a different display number. The default is ":0", and when you ran startx, it found that :0 was already in use. If you specifiy ":1" (or ":2", ...), then it will try that instead and find that it's not in use: startx -- :1 You can also tell startx what to run instead of the normal X stuff. At home I have a headless Sun server (riven) in my attic, and I set up ssh keys so I can ssh to it without a password. On my workstation, I run startx /usr/bin/ssh riven /usr/dt/bin/Xsession -- :1 and soon I get a nice Solaris desktop on the next tty, tunneled through ssh. So ctrl-alt-f7 is my Linux desktop and crtl-alt-f8 is my Solaris desktop. - -- John Abreau / Executive Director, Boston Linux & Unix ICQ 28611923 / AIM abreauj / JABBER [EMAIL PROTECTED] / YAHOO abreauj Email [EMAIL PROTECTED] / WWW http://www.abreau.net / PGP-Key-ID 0xD5C7B5D9 PGP-Key-Fingerprint 72 FB 39 4F 3C 3B D6 5B E0 C8 5A 6E F1 2C BE 99 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.7 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Exmh version 2.5 07/13/2001 iQCVAwUBPdh351V9A5rVx7XZAQJwSQP/SvN3L/pgw+1KDckLF9nNfY5wnPCyToIh MOJsEKO/+mwYDaxDWH7qfoqe7fYrCeBsPTT66Gx31hvILTCfw1NNyUl5wAvENChC +8tuqFKWE/uXlrSCooRYywzQ0T7zafe5l6mFdLjDzYtJoZ2iO/S79oCTLOCx90Qj 9gD36jvptqs= =wagb -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss
Re: RH update
On Sun, 2002-11-17 at 15:33, Chris wrote: > Well, I tried startx after I did ctrl-alt-f1, but an X session was already running > (the login screen), so that didn't help, but I believe I have another idea to Right... that would make sense! :) oops.. sorry for the bad advice. You probably want to kill any instances of X running or gdm or things like that before running startx. > help, I ran vncserver, and I got an error message, then the shole system locked > up, so it seems to be in the audio driver for my sound card, I will try removing > that in the BIOS and see if it comes up This isn't the first time the audio > has been an issue on this mobo with Linux. Seems someone doesn't know how to > write the correct audio driver for the VIA audi chip. Keep us posted! Ben ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss
Re: RH update
Well, I tried startx after I did ctrl-alt-f1, but an X session was already running (the login screen), so that didn't help, but I believe I have another idea to help, I ran vncserver, and I got an error message, then the shole system locked up, so it seems to be in the audio driver for my sound card, I will try removing that in the BIOS and see if it comes up This isn't the first time the audio has been an issue on this mobo with Linux. Seems someone doesn't know how to write the correct audio driver for the VIA audi chip. Thanks again for your help. Chris Ben Boulanger wrote: > Hey Chris, > Don't pay attention to Travis's laugh - he runs windows. > > What RedHat screen does it hand at? Can you be more specific there? > Can you hit ctrl-alt-f1 and get a text login prompt, login, and run > startx? It sounds like some part of the init for gnome or kde is > failing... doing it that way might give more debugging information. > > Thanks, > Ben > > On Sat, 2002-11-16 at 15:32, Chris wrote: > > Thanks... > > > > Actually, I have it on 2 laptops at work, and it is pretty good, also one of > > them was an upgrade, and it worked fine. Oh well, I will try your > > suggestions and see what happens. > > > > Chris > > > > > > Travis Roy wrote: > > > > > Hahaha, that's what you get for using a .0 release of RH ;) > > > > > > Have you booted into just text mode and tried doing an up2date to see if > > > there's any new packages.. That's what I'd start with. I had a problem > > > like that with 7.0 (but it wasn't with X it was with something else) > > > > > > Once you get that all fixed let us know how it is.. I've been wanting to > > > get around installing it but I just havn't had time to download the ISOs > > > > > > > -Original Message- > > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Chris > > > > Sent: Saturday, November 16, 2002 2:39 PM > > > > To: gnhlug Group > > > > Subject: RH update > > > > > > > > > > > > I have just updated from RH 7.3 to RH 8.0, and now my systems > > > > hangs at the Redhat splash screen where it would normally > > > > show the window manager, etc icons. > > > > > > > > Help please, anyone else had this happen??? > > > > > > > > Thanks > > > > > > > > Chris > > > > > > > > > > > > ___ > > > > gnhlug-discuss mailing list > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug> -discuss > > > > > > > > ___ > > gnhlug-discuss mailing list > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss
Re: RH update
On Sat, Nov 16, 2002 at 07:04:43PM -0500, you wrote: > I haven't tried Redhat's upgrade option since Redhat 2.1, back around > 1995 if I recall correctly. I had gotten the 2.1 CD at a GNHLUG meeting > at UNH, the night of Linus' talk, and I used it to upgrade a server that > was running Caldera Preview Release II. I believe the Caldera beta was > based on Redhat 2.0. > > That upgrade essentially trashed the system, and I had to do a fresh > install on it to recover. Fortunately I had backed up the system right > before trying the upgrade. In my experience, it hasn't gotten any better. Now and then I'll try an upgrade that ought to be easy, such as RHL 7.2 -> 7.3. I'm constantly amazed at the subtle ways the installer finds to screw up. I tried a fresh RHL 8.0 install on my laptop. Everything worked fine except that my Cisco Aironet 340 Wi-Fi card wouldn't associate with the access point. No amount of fiddling with various versions of the driver helped. I suspect that the problem had something to do with changes in the networking startup sequence, such that the card didn't have enough initialization time, but judicious use of 'sleep' didn't help either, and I eventually went back to 7.3. -- Roger -- Roger H. Goun Brentwood Country Animal Hospital, P.C. Chief Kennel Officer Exeter, New Hampshire, USA msg01379/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
RE: RH update
On Sat, 16 Nov 2002, Travis Roy wrote: > And I run windows for the following reasons: > > My USB CF/SM reader only kinda works in linux (the CF side works, the SM ... > wish it would output the stuff in mpeg. The human mind's ability to rationalize never ceases to amaze me! :-) Ben -- "Diplomacy is the art of saying 'Nice doggie|'... till you can find a rock." ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss
Re: RH update
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii "Travis Roy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Hahaha, that's what you get for using a .0 release of RH ;) I've been running 8.0 since about a week after it came out, with no real problems. Of course, I did a fresh install on a spare box, not an upgrade. I haven't tried Redhat's upgrade option since Redhat 2.1, back around 1995 if I recall correctly. I had gotten the 2.1 CD at a GNHLUG meeting at UNH, the night of Linus' talk, and I used it to upgrade a server that was running Caldera Preview Release II. I believe the Caldera beta was based on Redhat 2.0. That upgrade essentially trashed the system, and I had to do a fresh install on it to recover. Fortunately I had backed up the system right before trying the upgrade. - -- John Abreau / Executive Director, Boston Linux & Unix ICQ 28611923 / AIM abreauj / JABBER [EMAIL PROTECTED] / YAHOO abreauj Email [EMAIL PROTECTED] / WWW http://www.abreau.net / PGP-Key-ID 0xD5C7B5D9 PGP-Key-Fingerprint 72 FB 39 4F 3C 3B D6 5B E0 C8 5A 6E F1 2C BE 99 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.7 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Exmh version 2.5 07/13/2001 iQCVAwUBPdbdGlV9A5rVx7XZAQKLUgP+Nkb6XHy3r5W0A1wwWkWpFIq0kVxV+qEH /M+4r3Kw19v9MxzfCOMSgkQM5WNgZavBcb2JIfob7LYRzGET3/0uGupYd+G+3xhP TFYjZNv6PHZ/KE6JaiVkDzthZIJL/kb3J6Ssk7CnINwtKR2uB5I6ToJAqoumXWj4 Y4hnN068Q5M= =JgMj -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss
RE: RH update
I put a winky face :-P I was just messin' anyway, I really want to try 8.0 And I run windows for the following reasons: My USB CF/SM reader only kinda works in linux (the CF side works, the SM side doesn't.. It's been a known bug for over a year yet nobody has fixed it.. I would, but I'm not a programmer) My scanner doesn't work (Snapscan 1212u, yes, it should, but it doesn't) I -NEED- Office for my wife to use for school crap I use the windows movie editor to do stuff with my MiniDV camera and there's nothing out there for linux that does it as nicely.. Of course I wish it would output the stuff in mpeg. But with that being said I have a linux (Gentoo) box that I tinker with to learn things, a RH7.3 box that's the scootz.net/guster.net server, my windows box does dual boot into RH7.3 and I have a Powerbook that was a dual boot OS9/YellowDog Linux box until OSX came out (now it's OSX 10.2) > -Original Message- > From: Ben Boulanger [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Saturday, November 16, 2002 6:42 PM > To: Chris > Cc: Travis Roy; 'gnhlug Group' > Subject: Re: RH update > > > Hey Chris, > Don't pay attention to Travis's laugh - he runs windows. > > What RedHat screen does it hand at? Can you be more > specific there? > Can you hit ctrl-alt-f1 and get a text login prompt, login, > and run startx? It sounds like some part of the init for > gnome or kde is failing... doing it that way might give more > debugging information. > > Thanks, > Ben > > On Sat, 2002-11-16 at 15:32, Chris wrote: > > Thanks... > > > > Actually, I have it on 2 laptops at work, and it is pretty > good, also one of > > them was an upgrade, and it worked fine. Oh well, I > will try your > > suggestions and see what happens. > > > > Chris > > > > > > Travis Roy wrote: > > > > > Hahaha, that's what you get for using a .0 release of RH ;) > > > > > > Have you booted into just text mode and tried doing an up2date to > > > see if there's any new packages.. That's what I'd start > with. I had > > > a problem like that with 7.0 (but it wasn't with X it was with > > > something else) > > > > > > Once you get that all fixed let us know how it is.. I've been > > > wanting to get around installing it but I just havn't had time to > > > download the ISOs > > > > > > > -Original Message- > > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Chris > > > > Sent: Saturday, November 16, 2002 2:39 PM > > > > To: gnhlug Group > > > > Subject: RH update > > > > > > > > > > > > I have just updated from RH 7.3 to RH 8.0, and now my systems > > > > hangs at the Redhat splash screen where it would > normally show the > > > > window manager, etc icons. > > > > > > > > Help please, anyone else had this happen??? > > > > > > > > Thanks > > > > > > > > Chris > > > > > > > > > > > > ___ > > > > gnhlug-discuss mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug> -discuss > > > > > > > > ___ > > gnhlug-discuss mailing list > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss > > ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss
Re: RH update
Hey Chris, Don't pay attention to Travis's laugh - he runs windows. What RedHat screen does it hand at? Can you be more specific there? Can you hit ctrl-alt-f1 and get a text login prompt, login, and run startx? It sounds like some part of the init for gnome or kde is failing... doing it that way might give more debugging information. Thanks, Ben On Sat, 2002-11-16 at 15:32, Chris wrote: > Thanks... > > Actually, I have it on 2 laptops at work, and it is pretty good, also one of > them was an upgrade, and it worked fine. Oh well, I will try your > suggestions and see what happens. > > Chris > > > Travis Roy wrote: > > > Hahaha, that's what you get for using a .0 release of RH ;) > > > > Have you booted into just text mode and tried doing an up2date to see if > > there's any new packages.. That's what I'd start with. I had a problem > > like that with 7.0 (but it wasn't with X it was with something else) > > > > Once you get that all fixed let us know how it is.. I've been wanting to > > get around installing it but I just havn't had time to download the ISOs > > > > > -Original Message- > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Chris > > > Sent: Saturday, November 16, 2002 2:39 PM > > > To: gnhlug Group > > > Subject: RH update > > > > > > > > > I have just updated from RH 7.3 to RH 8.0, and now my systems > > > hangs at the Redhat splash screen where it would normally > > > show the window manager, etc icons. > > > > > > Help please, anyone else had this happen??? > > > > > > Thanks > > > > > > Chris > > > > > > > > > ___ > > > gnhlug-discuss mailing list > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug> -discuss > > > > > ___ > gnhlug-discuss mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss
Re: RH update
Thanks... Actually, I have it on 2 laptops at work, and it is pretty good, also one of them was an upgrade, and it worked fine. Oh well, I will try your suggestions and see what happens. Chris Travis Roy wrote: > Hahaha, that's what you get for using a .0 release of RH ;) > > Have you booted into just text mode and tried doing an up2date to see if > there's any new packages.. That's what I'd start with. I had a problem > like that with 7.0 (but it wasn't with X it was with something else) > > Once you get that all fixed let us know how it is.. I've been wanting to > get around installing it but I just havn't had time to download the ISOs > > > -Original Message- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Chris > > Sent: Saturday, November 16, 2002 2:39 PM > > To: gnhlug Group > > Subject: RH update > > > > > > I have just updated from RH 7.3 to RH 8.0, and now my systems > > hangs at the Redhat splash screen where it would normally > > show the window manager, etc icons. > > > > Help please, anyone else had this happen??? > > > > Thanks > > > > Chris > > > > > > ___ > > gnhlug-discuss mailing list > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug> -discuss > > ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss
RE: RH update
Hahaha, that's what you get for using a .0 release of RH ;) Have you booted into just text mode and tried doing an up2date to see if there's any new packages.. That's what I'd start with. I had a problem like that with 7.0 (but it wasn't with X it was with something else) Once you get that all fixed let us know how it is.. I've been wanting to get around installing it but I just havn't had time to download the ISOs > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Chris > Sent: Saturday, November 16, 2002 2:39 PM > To: gnhlug Group > Subject: RH update > > > I have just updated from RH 7.3 to RH 8.0, and now my systems > hangs at the Redhat splash screen where it would normally > show the window manager, etc icons. > > Help please, anyone else had this happen??? > > Thanks > > Chris > > > ___ > gnhlug-discuss mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug> -discuss > ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss
RH update
I have just updated from RH 7.3 to RH 8.0, and now my systems hangs at the Redhat splash screen where it would normally show the window manager, etc icons. Help please, anyone else had this happen??? Thanks Chris ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss
