Re: Future Meeting? (MythTV)

2004-04-16 Thread Derek Doucette
I also like the idea.  It is a project that I've been wanting to do for
a while, and slowly saving for some hardware for it.  Even better would
be how to get it running on a mini-itx setup.  Too bad I'm in VA now, or
I definately would have attended.  Hopefully if this presentation does
go through there will be some notes posted online after...


On Thu, 2004-04-15 at 11:32, Travis Roy wrote:
 I was talking to Ben Scott about this and brought up doing a meeting 
 about this and he seemed interested so I thought I would put a feeler 
 out to see who would be interested.
 
 MythTV (on Fedora Core 1)
 
 Things I would like to cover:
 
 1. What is MythTV
 2. Why MythTV, differences to other options like TiVo, ReplayTV
 3. Hardware to consider
 4. How to install, basically going over Jarrod's Guide
 (http://wilsonet.com/mythtv/fcmyth.php)
 5. Tweaks for improvement, other functions (MythMusic, MythGame, Etc.)
 6. QA
 
 I just got mine finally working.. I won't want to do this until I get 
 all the stuff working including the DVD ripping and MythGame so I'm 
 looking at the middle of next month for the earliest.
 
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Re: Future Meeting? (MythTV)

2004-04-16 Thread brian
I am very interested, and can also expand on the topic, based on my
previous employer creating a linux-based PVR.

On Thu, 2004-04-15 at 11:32, Travis Roy wrote:
 I was talking to Ben Scott about this and brought up doing a meeting 
 about this and he seemed interested so I thought I would put a feeler 
 out to see who would be interested.
 
 MythTV (on Fedora Core 1)
 
 Things I would like to cover:
 
 1. What is MythTV
 2. Why MythTV, differences to other options like TiVo, ReplayTV
 3. Hardware to consider
 4. How to install, basically going over Jarrod's Guide
 (http://wilsonet.com/mythtv/fcmyth.php)
 5. Tweaks for improvement, other functions (MythMusic, MythGame, Etc.)
 6. QA
 
 I just got mine finally working.. I won't want to do this until I get 
 all the stuff working including the DVD ripping and MythGame so I'm 
 looking at the middle of next month for the earliest.
 
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Re: Future Meeting? (MythTV)

2004-04-16 Thread Travis Roy
Derek Doucette wrote:

I also like the idea.  It is a project that I've been wanting to do for
a while, and slowly saving for some hardware for it.  Even better would
be how to get it running on a mini-itx setup.  Too bad I'm in VA now, or
I definately would have attended.  Hopefully if this presentation does
go through there will be some notes posted online after...
Mini-itx boards are now really powerfull enough to run the backend, 
unless you go with a card with an onboard mpeg encoder (like a PVR-250). 
The Epia-M boards however make great frontend machines.

The mythtv requirements are beefy. when I was testing with my bttv card 
my underclocked Athlon 2000 (underclocked do to 100mhz ram and the 
stupid motherboard not letting me set the processor to 133mhz) and it 
would chug when watching and recording at the same time.
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Re: Future Meeting? (MythTV)

2004-04-16 Thread bscott
On Thu, 15 Apr 2004, at 1:09pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Though it runs only on windows... check out one called Sagetv 
 http://www.sage.tv/

  So it (1) costs money and (2) won't run on Linux.  I'll pass.  ;-)

  I'm much more psych'ed about Travis's MythTV project.  He's been
describing some of the stuff it does (or can do), and I must admit, it
sounds very cool.  Kinda like my Tivo, but without the restrictions Tivo
puts in to keep the media cartel off their backs.  Sure, it's not an
off-the-shelf product, but generally speaking, I think Linux users are
used to that.  And I'd rather spend time installing MythTV once then
reinstalling MS Windows once a year.

  I'm eagerly anticipating Travis's proposed presentation.

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Re: Future Meeting? (MythTV)

2004-04-16 Thread Ben Boulanger
On Fri, 2004-04-16 at 18:18, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   So it (1) costs money and (2) won't run on Linux.  I'll pass.  ;-)
 
   I'm much more psych'ed about Travis's MythTV project.  He's been
 describing some of the stuff it does (or can do), and I must admit, it
 sounds very cool.  Kinda like my Tivo, but without the restrictions Tivo
 puts in to keep the media cartel off their backs.  Sure, it's not an
 off-the-shelf product, but generally speaking, I think Linux users are
 used to that.  And I'd rather spend time installing MythTV once then
 reinstalling MS Windows once a year.
 
   I'm eagerly anticipating Travis's proposed presentation.

I agree with Ben completely, I'm very interested to get my head around
it and make my own MythTV box.  Please let us all know when you're going
to give this presentation..

Ben


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Re: Future Meeting? (MythTV)

2004-04-15 Thread Greg Rundlett
Travis Roy wrote:

I was talking to Ben Scott about this and brought up doing a meeting 
about this and he seemed interested so I thought I would put a feeler 
out to see who would be interested.

MythTV (on Fedora Core 1)
I would be interested

Things I would like to cover:

1. What is MythTV
2. Why MythTV, differences to other options like TiVo, ReplayTV
3. Hardware to consider
4. How to install, basically going over Jarrod's Guide
   (http://wilsonet.com/mythtv/fcmyth.php)
5. Tweaks for improvement, other functions (MythMusic, MythGame, Etc.)
6. QA
All sounds great

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Re: Future Meeting? (MythTV)

2004-04-15 Thread Jared Watkins
Travis Roy wrote:

I was talking to Ben Scott about this and brought up doing a meeting 
about this and he seemed interested so I thought I would put a feeler 
out to see who would be interested.
Though it runs only on windows... check out one called Sagetv 
http://www.sage.tv/

I just started testing it out this week with their 15 day demo but it 
seems very cool...  one of the differences with this is that it uses a 
client/server model... so you can have multiple servers recording and 
storing content with mpeg encoding hardware..  and multiple 
software-only clients that can stream live tv or stored content from the 
servers (which includes music and movies you already have).  Also.. it 
records everything in simple mpeg formats so it's easy to burn something 
off to disk if you want to save it. 

The best part is that the software is inexpensive. Which is good 
considering the cost of the mpeg encoding hardware.  One thing I'd like 
to try is using multiple usb attached encoders to one server as a 
directivo replacement... it is supposed to support that.

I've looked at Mythtv before... and it seemed like too much work and too 
little benefit compared to the directivo I already had... this sagetv 
looks to beat them both out.

Jared
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Re: Future Meeting? (MythTV)

2004-04-15 Thread Travis Roy
Jared Watkins wrote:

Travis Roy wrote:

I was talking to Ben Scott about this and brought up doing a meeting 
about this and he seemed interested so I thought I would put a feeler 
out to see who would be interested.


Though it runs only on windows... check out one called Sagetv 
http://www.sage.tv/
heh, MythTV is only on linux. SageTV looks okay, but it's missing some 
of the functions I like.

I just started testing it out this week with their 15 day demo but it 
seems very cool...  one of the differences with this is that it uses a 
client/server model... so you can have multiple servers recording and 
storing content with mpeg encoding hardware..  and multiple 
software-only clients that can stream live tv or stored content from the 
servers (which includes music and movies you already have).  
Myth does this, you can have one or many servers, and many clients. A 
lot of people set up servers and then use EPIA-M's for clients.

 Also.. it
records everything in simple mpeg formats so it's easy to burn something 
off to disk if you want to save it.
If you use a PVR-x50 card it saves the files in normal mpeg files. If 
you use a bttv card it saves it in NUV but includes a transcoder that 
will re-encode it to mpegs, divx files, or even make bin/cue files for 
VCDs or SVCDs

The best part is that the software is inexpensive. Which is good 
considering the cost of the mpeg encoding hardware.  One thing I'd like 
to try is using multiple usb attached encoders to one server as a 
directivo replacement... it is supposed to support that.
MythTV is free :) I think MythTV only supports up to 4 TV cards, but I'm 
not positive.

I've looked at Mythtv before... and it seemed like too much work and too 
little benefit compared to the directivo I already had... this sagetv 
looks to beat them both out.
Following Jarrod's guide I had MythTV setup in about 3hrs. It does MUCH 
more then my stand alone TiVo. Things like the CD and DVD ripping, 
picture gallery, MythGame (play Mame/SNES games), MythWeather, MythNews. 
Plus it uses themes so you can change the look to whatever you like.
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