Re: Mozilla.org - An Open Source possibility?
Randy Edwards <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Subject: Re: Mozilla.org - An Open Source possibility? I've always seen that FOSS sites assume you already know what the product is and can do. FAQs usually never contain the question "WTF is this", which one would assume is a FAQ. Here, here! I wish I had a dollar for every time I picked up a clue about a "gee whiz neato" toy from a mailing list or web site, only to look up the toy and then wonder, "Okay, what does it do and should I spend time learning about it?" Fortunately, as free software matures, I get the sense that there's more of a trend of explaining things for newbies. (Thankfully!:-) It isn't an open source issue only. I received a beta to test once. It was a commercial, proprietary database-related application. After several days struggling with it, I still couldn't figure out what it was supposed to do. Except for a page of techno-buzz, the documentation did not exist yet as it was "only" a beta. I submitted a scathing review of the beta to the manufacturer. They gave me a Palm Pilot for the best comments on their product. (Perhaps I was the only one to comment.) -- Dan Jenkins ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Rastech Inc., Bedford, NH, USA --- 1-603-624-7272 *** Technical Support for over a Quarter Century ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss
Re: Mozilla.org - An Open Source possibility?
I've always seen that FOSS sites assume you already know what the product is and can do. FAQs usually never contain the question "WTF is this", which one would assume is a FAQ. Here, here! I wish I had a dollar for every time I picked up a clue about a "gee whiz neato" toy from a mailing list or web site, only to look up the toy and then wonder, "Okay, what does it do and should I spend time learning about it?" Fortunately, as free software matures, I get the sense that there's more of a trend of explaining things for newbies. (Thankfully!:-) -- Regards, | "Every gun that is made, every warship launched, every rocket .| fired signifies, in the final sense, a theft from those who Randy| hunger and are not fed, those who are cold and are not | clothed." -- US President Dwight D. Eisenhower ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss
Re: Mozilla.org - An Open Source possibility?
On Fri, 2003-12-05 at 15:35, Brian Chabot wrote: > Jon maddog Hall wrote: > > > Interesting. > > > > "All the Mozilla that is fit to print". > > > > In lieu of news, how about a "hints and kinks" corner? > > I know you probably meant a *Linux* hints and tips, but a Mozilla one > would be nice, too. > > Personally I use Mozilla on all my computers and when I install it there > are a few additional components I usually add to it such as the Calendar > module and AdBlock. It would be nice to see links to "Additional > Components and Features" on the front page. Me too. And BannerBlind. And PrefTools. > > Good things might be localized versions/language packs, themes, major > components (like the calendar), minor enhancements (AdBlock, Blog > plugins), etc. Just a link to http://Mozdev.org would do it. > Another feature it took me loads of digging to find is that Mozilla does > in fact still have Palm conduits for M$ Windows in the CVS tree. It > seems that entire feature (Palm sync in general) has been brushed to the > wayside as the developers consider it bloat. Great, but what about an > .XPI as an optional component? I see it mentioned in the release notes for 1.6a. I thought I saw an XPI for it too... > > Don't get me wrong... I love Mozilla... but its still far from perfect > for the non-geek end-user. > > Brian > > ___ > gnhlug-discuss mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss > ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss
Re: Mozilla.org - An Open Source possibility?
Jon maddog Hall wrote: Interesting. "All the Mozilla that is fit to print". In lieu of news, how about a "hints and kinks" corner? I know you probably meant a *Linux* hints and tips, but a Mozilla one would be nice, too. Personally I use Mozilla on all my computers and when I install it there are a few additional components I usually add to it such as the Calendar module and AdBlock. It would be nice to see links to "Additional Components and Features" on the front page. Good things might be localized versions/language packs, themes, major components (like the calendar), minor enhancements (AdBlock, Blog plugins), etc. Another feature it took me loads of digging to find is that Mozilla does in fact still have Palm conduits for M$ Windows in the CVS tree. It seems that entire feature (Palm sync in general) has been brushed to the wayside as the developers consider it bloat. Great, but what about an .XPI as an optional component? Don't get me wrong... I love Mozilla... but its still far from perfect for the non-geek end-user. Brian ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss
Re: Mozilla.org - An Open Source possibility?
Interesting. "All the Mozilla that is fit to print". In lieu of news, how about a "hints and kinks" corner? md -- Jon "maddog" Hall Executive Director Linux(R) International email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 80 Amherst St. Voice: +1.603.672.4557 Amherst, N.H. 03031-3032 U.S.A. WWW: http://www.li.org Board Member: Uniforum Association, USENIX Association (R)Linux is a registered trademark of Linus Torvalds in several countries. UNIX is a registered trademark of The Open Group in the US and other countries. ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss
Re: Mozilla.org - An Open Source possibility?
On Thu, Dec 04, 2003 at 11:32:49PM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > I'm not saying that this is the only way, but it certainly seems like *a* > way. > > Comments? I've always seen that FOSS sites assume you already know what the product is and can do. FAQs usually never contain the question "WTF is this", which one would assume is a FAQ. A prime example is DocBook (http://www.docbook.org/). No mention of what it is or how to use it. Take a look at the "what is DocBook?" section and feel your head spin. -Mark pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
