Re: Question about installing Linux on a Dell

2004-12-06 Thread Jeffrey Creem
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Subject: Re: Question about installing Linux on a Dell


Ben,
Thanks for the reply.  I wasn't aware of Dell's linux site.  I must be 
brutally honest and say that I did not purchase this laptop with the 
intention of only having Linux on it.  If that were the case, I would have 
looked at compatibility.  Instead it fully meets my other needs and may be 
dual booted.

Again, thanks for the link!!
Happy holidays.
Jeff Kirkland

Instead of dual booting you could go the vmware route. It is (generally)
easier to setup on laptops (since you are dealing with virtualized 
hardware).
It makes it really easy to try multiple different Linux distros. Video speed 
could
be better but for everything else (including large compiles) the slowdown is 
not
really present.

I think you can get a $100 rebate on vmware as a member of a Linux users 
group. (Not sure if they
are still running it). I submitted one name for someone here on the group 
and I think they got their $100 discount.

Let me know if you are interested.
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Re: Question about installing Linux on a Dell

2004-12-05 Thread Dan Jenkins
Michael Nolin wrote:
I found angrydwarf.com to be most helpful.
It should be angrydwarf.org
The specific page is
http://www.angrydwarf.org/content/article/projects/2003-05-28/i600m
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Re: Question about installing Linux on a Dell

2004-12-05 Thread Dan Jenkins
Michael Nolin wrote:
I found angrydwarf.com to be most helpful.
AFAIK, there is no angrydwarf.com any more. The site currently goes to a 
"buy this domain" server. I ran back through the Wayback Machine and 
find nothing since early 2003. It was a game site for a bit then, as far 
as I could tell. And an empty blog page prior to that. The first couple 
of years it was registered it showed a "coming soon" page.

The only other reference I found Googling was:
"Dean, Howard: Running for president. Maintains a website at 
www.angrydwarf.com. Kills kittens for fun."
which doesn't seem helpful. :-D

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Re: Question about installing Linux on a Dell

2004-12-05 Thread Michael Nolin


I use a Dell Insperion 600m, in a Dual Boot
configuration with RH9. I had probems with Broadcom
WLAN but was able to get a NDIS $15 driver from
Lunixant.com. You'll want to step up to perhaps a 2.6
core for proper battery management. I found
angrydwarf.com to be most helpful. My only concern
would be the Broadcom has sprung more evil silicon on
the marget, their all in one com-chips are not always
supported especially on thier desk top machines. 

Dell support seems useless (reactive), my machine was
shipped with the wrong drivers disk, and multiple
requestes ended in a dead end. Lots of phone calls
very little help. The web support channel has some
good driver updates. 


Michael Nolin
Embedded Solutions Unlimited, LLC



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Re: Question about installing Linux on a Dell

2004-12-05 Thread Numberwhun
Ben,
Thanks for the reply.  I wasn't aware of Dell's linux site.  I must be 
brutally honest and say that I did not purchase this laptop with the 
intention of only having Linux on it.  If that were the case, I would 
have looked at compatibility.  Instead it fully meets my other needs and 
may be dual booted.

Again, thanks for the link!!
Happy holidays.
Jeff Kirkland

Benjamin Scott wrote:
On Sat, 4 Dec 2004, at 12:42pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 

I recently purchased ... a new Dell Inspiron 9200 ... I have been doing
some searching on places like google and cannot really find anyone that
has installed Linux on this particular model.
   

 Well, a couple "academic" points:
 One should generally check compatibility *before* making a purchase.  :-)
 Dell offers two lines of laptops: Inspiron and Latitude.  The Inspiron are
targeted at "home users".  The primary design goals is cheap, cheap, cheap.  
The after-sale support absolutely sucks.  The Latitude line is targeted at
"business users".  They cost more, but you get much better support, and it's
far less likely to infuriate you.

 Of course, most people buy the Inspiron.  Given two identical computers,
with identical specs, one more expensive but with good after-sale support
and one cheaper with horrible after-sale support, 97 out of 100 people will
buy the cheaper one.  And they get what they pay for, every time.  But I
digress.
 On to the matter at hand:
 I suggest heading on over to http://linux.dell.com/ -- the home of all
things Linux at Dell.  The mailing lists, in particular, are full of
knowledgeable people who use Linux on Dell stuff.  Nothing specific to
laptops at this time, I'm afraid, but maybe you find something.
 Good luck!
 

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Re: Question about installing Linux on a Dell

2004-12-05 Thread Jeff Smith
Benjamin Scott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: 

>   I suggest heading on over to http://linux.dell.com/ --
> the home of all
> things Linux at Dell.  The mailing lists, in particular,
> are full of
> knowledgeable people who use Linux on Dell stuff. 
> Nothing specific to
> laptops at this time, I'm afraid, but maybe you find
> something.

Another place to try is the linux-dell-laptops group on
Yahoo (you can get e-mail as well).  The FAQ is at:
http://whacked.net/ldl/faq/

You should be able to join the mailing list by sending an
e-mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

jeff

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Re: Question about installing Linux on a Dell

2004-12-04 Thread Michael Sh
Hi Jeff,

I've tinkered with various versions and flavors of Linux on everything from 
servers to notebooks to iMacs, and there were a few Dells in the bunch, the 
only machine that really gave me issues was an old Racer with an AMD K6-2, that 
refused to accept anything other than Libranet or Knoppix...  I can't speak for 
your new Dell though, but why not give it a shot and let us know how things 
turn out...

Good Luck,

Mike

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From: Numberwhun <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Question about installing Linux on a Dell
Date: Sat, 04 Dec 2004 12:42:06 -0500

> 
> Hello everyone!
> I recently purchased (and am waiting for the delivery of ) a new 
> Dell Inspiron 9200 ( 17" display, 1920x1200, 1 gig ram, 100gig 
> internal hd, 250 gig external hd, dual 9cell batteries) which I 
> pimped out as it is going to have to last me a while.   I have been 
> doing some searching on places like google and cannot really find 
> anyone that has installed Linux on this particular model.  I have 
> even checked www.*linux*-laptop.net and there is no listing for 
> this model there.
> 
> Basically, I am just curious if anyone here on the list has 
> installed linux on this particular model and if so, did you have 
> any problems?  Did anything fail to work?
> 
> Thank you in advance and Happy Holidays!
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Jeff Kirkland
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Re: Question about installing Linux on a Dell

2004-12-04 Thread Benjamin Scott
On Sat, 4 Dec 2004, at 12:42pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> I recently purchased ... a new Dell Inspiron 9200 ... I have been doing
> some searching on places like google and cannot really find anyone that
> has installed Linux on this particular model.

  Well, a couple "academic" points:

  One should generally check compatibility *before* making a purchase.  :-)

  Dell offers two lines of laptops: Inspiron and Latitude.  The Inspiron are
targeted at "home users".  The primary design goals is cheap, cheap, cheap.  
The after-sale support absolutely sucks.  The Latitude line is targeted at
"business users".  They cost more, but you get much better support, and it's
far less likely to infuriate you.

  Of course, most people buy the Inspiron.  Given two identical computers,
with identical specs, one more expensive but with good after-sale support
and one cheaper with horrible after-sale support, 97 out of 100 people will
buy the cheaper one.  And they get what they pay for, every time.  But I
digress.

  On to the matter at hand:

  I suggest heading on over to http://linux.dell.com/ -- the home of all
things Linux at Dell.  The mailing lists, in particular, are full of
knowledgeable people who use Linux on Dell stuff.  Nothing specific to
laptops at this time, I'm afraid, but maybe you find something.

  Good luck!

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Re: Question about installing Linux on a Dell

2004-12-04 Thread Michael ODonnell


I don't have specific info about the laptop in question
but, unfortunately, it seems to be very common these days
for laptop manufacturers (as well as the manufacturers
of the various components) to be just howlingly stupid
about Linux support.  It's infuriating!

For example, I have Debian running on my HP zd7000 (which
I bought for its gloriously huge screen) and the results
are mixed.  Debian rocks, of course, so the parts that
work are working very well, but three key components
(video, WLAN and memory-card reader) are either poorly
supported or entirely unsupported, all as a direct result
of the manufacturers' mindlessly phobic attitudes about
publishing their HW specs.

Nvidia do at least provide a precompiled module for
their GeForce FX Go 5600 graphics controller, which works
mostly OK.  But the dimwits at Broadcom refuse to even
consider suporting the BCM4306 WLAN controller; same for
the ENE Technology CB710 card reader, so the only chance
for those components to be used with Linux is if I try
one of the fake-out hacks like NDIS wrapper, something
I've so far not got around to trying.

So if you're not having any luck finding info about Linux
support for your laptop as a whole then you might try
searching for war stories about (lack of) Linux support
for the various specfic components included in your model,
drawing on other people's experiences with laptops that
incorporate them.
 
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