Re: non-netsol registrars with non-web interface
On Sat, 2 Nov 2002, at 10:13pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Today, [with] NetSol ... authentication is done with account numbers and passwords ... Hmm. That seems rather dumb if you ask me. *NetSol* seems rather dumb, if you ask me. -- Ben Scott [EMAIL PROTECTED] | The opinions expressed in this message are those of the author and do not | | necessarily represent the views or policy of any other person, entity or | | organization. All information is provided without warranty of any kind. | ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss
Re: non-netsol registrars with non-web interface
On Fri, 1 Nov 2002, at 3:42pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: modifying my previous question: anyone know of registrars that do things according to handles rather than spelt-out names? I'm pretty sure (but not certain) that those handles are NIC-specific. I think they might even be called NIC handles. They are, and they are. Or were. The old NIC handles were just a unique key associated with records in a database. For example, if you were the Tech Contact for 50 domains, you would just associate all those domains with your handle. If you changed, e.g., your phone number, you would just Modify your Contact Record. Likewise, nameservers were given Host Records. When the old Internetwork Information Center was dissolved and replaced with the current system of registrars, Network Solutions kept the infrastructure they previously operated for InterNIC as their own private system. People who stayed with NetSol saw little change. New registrars, however, had to develop their own systems from scratch. Some copied NetSol closely, others did not. For example, I have a couple of domains parked with DomainMonger (because they were cheap at the time). Their system (at the time) used the domain name as the account username. I registered three domains, so I had to create three accounts, entering the same identification information for each one. If I change my address, I will need to update each account individually. Needless to say, this does not scale. (I think they've gotten better since then, but I don't know for sure.) Today, NetSol is keeping the old NIC handles in their WHOIS database for now, but they are dumping the old email-based interface for a web-based interface, and authentication is done with account numbers and passwords, rather than handles and PGP keys. The transition to the new system has made a mess of things for some people (no surprise there). For example, with Domain Discover, you have an account. You can register multiple domains under that account, and IIRC when you update contact information, you can update it for all of your domains simultaneously at the click of a button. What about nameservers? That is, if you change the IP address or domain name of a nameserver, can you just update the host record for that one nameserver? That would be my big concern. -- Ben Scott [EMAIL PROTECTED] | The opinions expressed in this message are those of the author and do not | | necessarily represent the views or policy of any other person, entity or | | organization. All information is provided without warranty of any kind. | ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss
Re: non-netsol registrars with non-web interface
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Today, NetSol is keeping the old NIC handles in their WHOIS database for now, but they are dumping the old email-based interface for a web-based interface, and authentication is done with account numbers and passwords, rather than handles and PGP keys. The transition to the new system has made a mess of things for some people (no surprise there). Hmm. That seems rather dumb if you ask me. Passwords make a great access mechanism, but a lousy security mechanism. PKC would be much better for guaranteeing that someone is who they claim to be. On the topic at hand, I use easyDNS, as a previous poster mentioned. They don't have an email interface, but you create an account with a login name and all of your domains are accessible for that account. You need only change your contact information once. WHOIS information, however, seems to be kept separate from the account info. I recently had to change the WHOIS on my 3 domains and I had to do it once for each domain. Not a big deal with 3 domains. If you have fifty, I could see it being a pain. Maybe we shoud start our own registration service? ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss
Re: non-netsol registrars with non-web interface
On Fri, 1 Nov 2002, at 12:49pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: netsol ... [has] the ability to do registrations and make changes using email authenticated with pgp signatures. And, FYI, as of today (1 Nov 2002), they are supposedly discontinuing the old email-based interface, in favor of their new web-based interface. http://www.netsol.com/en_US/promotions/offers/acct-migration-faq.html#9 Ya know, the old NetSol sucked, but after 15 or so years of dealing with them, at least we had them figured out pretty well. They sucked, but it was a known quality of suckage. The new and disimproved NetSol sucks ten times worse. -- Ben Scott [EMAIL PROTECTED] | The opinions expressed in this message are those of the author and do not | | necessarily represent the views or policy of any other person, entity or | | organization. All information is provided without warranty of any kind. | ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss
Re: non-netsol registrars with non-web interface
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, 1 Nov 2002, at 12:49pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: netsol ... [has] the ability to do registrations and make changes using email authenticated with pgp signatures. And, FYI, as of today (1 Nov 2002), they are supposedly discontinuing the old email-based interface, in favor of their new web-based interface. right, that's it, then. i'm transferring all of my domains elsewhere (as soon as i find the right one). modifying my previous question: anyone know of registrars that do things according to handles rather than spelt-out names? i want to a) keep my handle(s) and b) be able to use them as a shortcut. too many times there's been a problem when each instantiation of the same information has to be completely spelt out.. ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss
Re: non-netsol registrars with non-web interface
-Original Message- From: Rodent of Unusual Size [mailto:Ken.Coar;golux.com] Sent: Friday, November 01, 2002 2:25 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: non-netsol registrars with non-web interface [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, 1 Nov 2002, at 12:49pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: netsol ... [has] the ability to do registrations and make changes using email authenticated with pgp signatures. And, FYI, as of today (1 Nov 2002), they are supposedly discontinuing the old email-based interface, in favor of their new web-based interface. right, that's it, then. i'm transferring all of my domains elsewhere (as soon as i find the right one). modifying my previous question: anyone know of registrars that do things according to handles rather than spelt-out names? i want to a) keep my handle(s) and b) be able to use them as a shortcut. too many times there's been a problem when each instantiation of the same information has to be completely spelt out.. I'm not sure of exactly what you mean but I have had nothing but positive experience with easydns.com as my registrar. If you mean can you use a login other than your real name, then yes, when you log into their site you use a login (not necessarily your name) but you do need to provide your real name for the registrations. Erik PS: bonus, easydns.com uses PHP for their web interface ... just another point for open source software ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss
Re: non-netsol registrars with non-web interface
at least we had them figured out pretty well. They sucked, but it was a known quality of suckage. The new and disimproved NetSol sucks ten times worse. Which, based on their initial level of suckage, is no small feat! -- Regards, | Why would anyone want to run an operating system that is free, .| has open source code, and is developed worldwide by countless Randy| thousands of programmers? | Find out why at http://www.golgotha.net/linux-whatis.php ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss
Re: non-netsol registrars with non-web interface
but I have had nothing but positive experience with easydns.com as my registrar. I don't use them for a registrar, but I use them for DNS and a backup MX on a couple of my domains. I wish they were cheaper, but as far as their service goes it's first class and simply rock solid -- pleasantly uneventful. -- Regards, | Why would anyone want to run an operating system that is free, .| has open source code, and is developed worldwide by countless Randy| thousands of programmers? | Find out why at http://www.golgotha.net/linux-whatis.php ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss
