Re: Update Hell

2002-10-28 Thread Thomas M. Albright
On Mon, 28 Oct 2002, Thomas M. Albright messed up:

> Now that we all know my situation, that's for everyone's help up to now. 
 ^^

Should be "thanks"

> :)
> 

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Re: Update Hell

2002-10-28 Thread Thomas M. Albright
On Mon, 28 Oct 2002, mike ledoux wrote:

> My guess is that he's either still booting his old kernel, or that
> 'depmod -a' is failing for some reason.
> 
The first answer is: nope, I booted into 2.2.22-6.2.2

The second answer is: no idea. I've run depmod -a a couple of times with 
no errors reported. Running 'depmod -v | grep fail' gives me a bunch of 
output, all starting with xftw. (Whatever that is.)

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Re: Update Hell

2002-10-28 Thread Thomas M. Albright
On Mon, 28 Oct 2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

>   Please post the output of the following commands:
> 
>   rpm -qa | grep kernel
> 
kernel-2.2.19-6.2.16
kernel-pcmcia-cs-2.2.19-6.2.16
kernel-2.2.22-6.2.2
kernel-pcmcia-cs-2.2.22-6.2.2
kernel-utils-2.2.22-6.2.2

>   uname -a
> 
Linux machine.tarogue.net 2.2.22-6.2.2 #1 Mon Ser 23 07:15:28 EDT 2002 i586 unknown

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Re: Update Hell

2002-10-28 Thread Thomas M. Albright
I need to make a few points, I guess.

kernel-2.2.22 may be an old kernel, but 2.2.22-6.2.2 is the latest 
patched version of the kernel. If not for the local exploit, I'd happily 
still be running 2.2.19-6.2.16

I never have, and God willing, I never will, build a kernel. If there is 
no rpm, then I hope I don't need it.

'make modules' and 'make modules install' won't work since my laptop is 
also my firewall/router and has pretty much nothing but the kernel, 
networking, pcmcia, and ipchains installed. (And of course the relevent 
dependencies.)

Upgrading to a newer kernel/distribution is not a valid option either. I
tried that at home, and I am now getting more error messages, and
missing files, than I ever had before. [What the hell is 
libpthreads.so.0 (GLIBC_PRIVATE version)?]

All I wanted to do was rpm -ivh new.kernel and reboot. I have since 
rebooted back into the old kernel, and now I'm having network problems. 
(I'm still troubleshooting, I may ask about them later.)

Now that we all know my situation, that's for everyone's help up to now. 
:)

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Re: Update Hell

2002-10-28 Thread bscott
On Mon, 28 Oct 2002, at 10:55am, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Well, Red Hat 6.2 is fairly old now, but it appears that you
> may need to rebuild your kernel.

  He's running a pre-compiled binary kernel; that really should not apply.  
Unless Red Hat screwed up royally (which is certainly possible), I suspect
the configuration of his installed kernel and supporting modules is slightly
wacked.  It might be a user mistake, or maybe a script guessed wrong
somewhere.

> 2.2.22 is a VERY old kernel ...

  Not really.  It was released the 16th of September of this year.  The 2.2
series is still being actively maintained.  We are not seeing many new
features being added to it, yes, but many of us consider that to be a Good
Thing -- it contributes to a stable operating environment.  Stable may be
boring, but boring is often what one wants.  :)

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Re: Update Hell

2002-10-28 Thread bscott
On Mon, 28 Oct 2002, at 9:50am, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> I just updated the kernel on my (Red Hat 6.2) laptop. The only kernel
> packages needing updating were kernel, kernel-pcmcia-cs, and kernel-utils.
> I did them, rewrote lilo, reran lilo, then rebooted.

> Starting PCMCIA services:
> modules/lib/modules/2.2.22-6.2.2/pcmcia/pcmcia_core.o: unresolved symbol
> request_mem_region

  This means the system tried to load a kernel module, but it failed,
because the "pcmcia_core" module is requesting some kernel symbols that
cannot be found.  This is almost always a configuration error of some kind,
although it might not be your error (i.e., Red Hat might have screwed up).

  Please post the output of the following commands:

rpm -qa | grep kernel

uname -a

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Re: Update Hell

2002-10-28 Thread Bayard R. Coolidge
Well, Red Hat 6.2 is fairly old now, but it appears that you
may need to rebuild your kernel. If you don't know how to do
that, let us know, and I'm sure there will be some folks on
the list who can walk you through it. If you do already know
how, it appears to me that you may have forgotten to do a
'make modules; make modules_install' at the end as the kernel
is trying to load modules that are incompatible with it, as
reflected in the various 'unresolved symbols' messages.

2.2.22 is a VERY old kernel, and if at all possible, you might
consider moving up to 2.4.19 kernel. However, should you do so,
take a long look at /usr/src/linux/Documentation/Changes to
see what other system components will require updating -
there are a lot.

HTH,

Bayard
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Update Hell

2002-10-28 Thread Thomas M. Albright
I just updated the kernel on my (Red Hat 6.2) laptop. The only kernel
packages needing updating were kernel, kernel-pcmcia-cs, and
kernel-utils. I did them, rewrote lilo, reran lilo, then rebooted.

Now pcmcia won't start. Argh!

Can anyone help? This is what is being reported when I try to start 
pcmcia:
Starting PCMCIA services: modules/lib/modules/2.2.22-6.2.2/pcmcia/pcmcia_core.o: 
unresolved symbol request_mem_region
/lib/modules/2.2.22-6.2.2/pcmcia/pcmcia_core.o: unresolved symbol release_mem_region
/lib/modules/2.2.22-6.2.2/pcmcia/i82365.o: unresolved symbol pci_set_power_state
/lib/modules/2.2.22-6.2.2/pcmcia/i82365.o: unresolved symbol pci_enable_device
/lib/modules/2.2.22-6.2.2/pcmcia/i82365.o: unresolved symbol unregister_ss_entry
/lib/modules/2.2.22-6.2.2/pcmcia/i82365.o: unresolved symbol pci_irq_mask
/lib/modules/2.2.22-6.2.2/pcmcia/i82365.o: unresolved symbol register_ss_entry
/lib/modules/2.2.22-6.2.2/pcmcia/i82365.o: unresolved symbol CardServices
/lib/modules/2.2.22-6.2.2/pcmcia/ds.o: unresolved symbol proc_pccard
/lib/modules/2.2.22-6.2.2/pcmcia/ds.o: unresolved symbol CardServices
 cardmgr

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