Probable bug in gtk and need clarification/context

[Andika Triwidada via gnome-i18n]

Hi All,

While reviewing translation, I wander here:

https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gtk/-/blob/main/gtk/gtktexttag.c#L1102

  ADD_SET_PROP ("word-set", PROP_WORD_SET,P_("Word
set"),P_("Whether this tag represents a single
word"));  ADD_SET_PROP ("sentence-set", PROP_WORD_SET,
P_("Sentence set"),P_("Whether this tag represents a
single sentence"));


Maybe the second set should be like below?

  ADD_SET_PROP ("sentence-set", PROP_SENTENCE_SET,
P_("Sentence set"),P_("Whether this tag represents a
single sentence"));



... and not to be OOT, how should we translate those strings?

Word set -> does it mean "whether the word was set or not"

or "a set of words"?

Same question about "sentence".


Regards,

Andika
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Re: [DL]String additions to 'evolution-data-server.master'

[Andika Triwidada via gnome-i18n]

Not sure how to treat this:
https://l10n.gnome.org/module/evolution-data-server/
said "This module has been archived. It is only kept for statistical
purposes. Please don’t translate it any more."

But why is it still included in GNOME 42 (development) UI?
https://l10n.gnome.org/languages/id/gnome-42/ui/

Regards,
Andika.

On Sun, Mar 6, 2022 at 8:01 PM GNOME Status Pages  wrote:

> This is an automatic notification from status generation scripts on:
> https://l10n.gnome.org.
>
> There have been following string additions to module
> 'evolution-data-server.master':
>
> + "(Deprecated) Automatic proxy configuration URL"
> + "(Deprecated) Host name for HTTP requests"
> + "(Deprecated) Host name for HTTPS requests"
> + "(Deprecated) Host name for SOCKS requests"
> + "(Deprecated) List of hosts to connect to without proxy"
> + "(Deprecated) Port number for HTTP requests"
> + "(Deprecated) Port number for HTTPS requests"
> + "(Deprecated) Port number for SOCKS requests"
> + "(Deprecated) Proxy authentication password"
> + "(Deprecated) Proxy authentication user name"
> + "(Deprecated) Proxy type to use"
> + "(Deprecated) Whether proxy server requires authentication"
> + "(Deprecated) Whether to use http-proxy"
> + "A full path to a directory where .source files with preconfigured
> options can be stored"
> + "A list of hints for OAuth2 services"
> + "A list of variables which can be part of the autoconfig .source
> files"
> + "An OAuth2 client ID to use to connect to Google servers, instead of
> the one provided during build time"
> + "An OAuth2 client ID to use to connect to Outlook servers, instead
> of the one provided during build time"
> + "An OAuth2 client ID to use to connect to Yahoo! servers, instead of
> the one provided during build time"
> + "An OAuth2 client secret to use to connect to Google servers,
> instead of the one provided during build time"
> + "An OAuth2 client secret to use to connect to Outlook servers,
> instead of the one provided during build time"
> + "An OAuth2 client secret to use to connect to Yahoo! servers,
> instead of the one provided during build time"
> + "An absolute path where the gpg (or gpg2) binary is"
> + "An example is “/usr/bin/gpg”; when it is left empty, or an
> incorrect value is set, then it will be searched for. Change requires
> restart of the application."
> + "Array of user header names"
> + "Birthday and anniversary reminder units"
> + "Birthday and anniversary reminder value"
> + "Birthday and anniversary reminder"
> + "Calendar event notifications"
> + "Contact UID of a user"
> + "Each item of the array is expected to be of the form: name=value.
> These variables are checked before environment variables, but after the
> predefined USER, REALNAME and HOST variables."
> + "Enable audio notifications"
> + "Evolution Alarm Notify"
> + "GIO name of the GNetworkMonitor to use for an ENetworkMonitor
> instance"
> + "Height of the reminder notification dialog"
> + "Number of units for determining a birthday or anniversary reminder"
> + "Override SMTP HELO/EHLO argument"
> + "Past reminders for EReminderWatcher"
> + "Programs that are allowed to be run by reminders"
> + "Reminder programs"
> + "Show reminder notification dialog always on top"
> + "Show reminder notification for completed tasks"
> + "Show reminder notification for past events"
> + "Show reminders in notification tray only"
> + "Size in pixels of the event list in the reminder notification
> dialog"
> + "Snoozed reminders for EReminderWatcher"
> + "The last used snooze time, in minutes"
> + "These headers can be stored in the folder summary, possibly being
> visible in the GUI. The value can contain a pipe character ('|'), which
> delimits the display name from the header name. Example: 'Spam
> Score|X-Spam-Score'"
> + "This directory, if filled with an existing path, is checked
> additionally to XDG configure directories."
> + "This key was deprecated in version 3.12 and should no longer be
> used. Proxy settings are now integrated into Evolution-Data-Server’s
> account system. See the ESourceProxy API documentation for details."
> + "Units for a birthday or anniversary reminder, “minutes”, “hours” or
> “days”"
> + "User-defined snooze times, in minutes"
> + "User-specified OAuth2 client ID for Google servers. Empty string
> means to use the one provided during build time. Change of this requires
> restart."
> + "User-specified OAuth2 client ID for Outlook servers. Empty string
> means to use the one provided during build time. Change of this requires
> restart."
> + "User-specified OAuth2 client ID for Yahoo! servers. Empty string
> means to use the one provided during build time. Change of this requires
> restart."
> + "User-specified OAuth2 client secret for Google servers. 

Re: gnome-devel-docs translation

[Andika Triwidada via gnome-i18n]

On Thu, Sep 9, 2021 at 6:10 PM Claude Paroz  wrote:

> Thanks for this information.
>
> The module has been obsoleted on l10n.gnome.org, but it will stay for
> some time for historical and statistics purposes.
>
> Claude
>
>
Hi Claude,

Not sure if this is a problem or not.

Those gnome-devel-docs are not in GNOME 41 Documentation section anymore,
but they are still in GNOME 40 and GNOME 3.38's Documentation section.

Regards,
Andika
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Re: DL misconfigured?

[Andika Triwidada via gnome-i18n]

Yes, I tried more than once, in gthumb doc branch master and v3.10. But
everything's fine now. Thanks.

On Sat, Nov 14, 2020 at 1:12 AM Claude Paroz  wrote:

> Le 13.11.20 à 12:30, Andika Triwidada via gnome-i18n a écrit :
> > Hello,
> >
> > I just tried to upload a new translation, got this error message:
> >
> > An error occurred during applying your action: [Errno 107] Transport
> > endpoint is not connected: '/var/www/djamnedlies/data/media'
> >
> > Maybe DL misconfigured? damnedlies instead of djamnedlies
>
> It may be a temporary failure between two deployments. Did you try more
> than once?
>
> Claude
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DL misconfigured?

[Andika Triwidada via gnome-i18n]

Hello,

I just tried to upload a new translation, got this error message:

An error occurred during applying your action: [Errno 107] Transport
endpoint is not connected: '/var/www/djamnedlies/data/media'

Maybe DL misconfigured? damnedlies instead of djamnedlies

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Re: Fwd: Submit Help Translation on GNOME Terminal

[Andika Triwidada via gnome-i18n]

Hi Daniel,

Thanks for your help. It seems that Michael Catanzaro revert all your
modifications before I have chance to commit files. Please advice how to
proceed?

On Tue, Nov 3, 2020 at 4:50 PM Daniel Mustieles García <
daniel.mustie...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi Andika,
>
> I've added 'id' language to those modules. Please check if you can now
> commit translations for them using DL.
>
> Let us know if you have any problem with it.
>
> Regards
>
> El dom., 1 nov. 2020 a las 2:48, Andika Triwidada ()
> escribió:
>
>> Hello, I think this problem is well known for Documentation translation.
>> If a language has not been translated, required directory
>> help/language-code will not be there, and DL can not automatically create
>> it. Then in turn, DL will not present "submit to repository" on pull down
>> options.
>>
>> Currently, we face this problem on these modules:
>> *
>> https://l10n.gnome.org/vertimus/gnome-user-docs/master/system-admin-guide/id/
>> * https://l10n.gnome.org/vertimus/five-or-more/master/help/id/
>> * https://l10n.gnome.org/vertimus/iagno/master/help/id/
>> * https://l10n.gnome.org/vertimus/31/27/89/ (gnome system monitor)
>> * https://l10n.gnome.org/vertimus/gnote/master/help/id/
>> * https://l10n.gnome.org/vertimus/gthumb/master/help/id/
>> * https://l10n.gnome.org/vertimus/gucharmap/master/help/id/
>> * https://l10n.gnome.org/vertimus/shotwell/master/help/id/
>>
>> We would be very grateful if someone who has git write access to those
>> modules can help us create those prerequisite directories and language
>> entry in config files.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Andika
>>
>
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Re: Fwd: Submit Help Translation on GNOME Terminal

[Andika Triwidada via gnome-i18n]

Hello, I think this problem is well known for Documentation translation. If
a language has not been translated, required directory help/language-code
will not be there, and DL can not automatically create it. Then in turn, DL
will not present "submit to repository" on pull down options.

Currently, we face this problem on these modules:
*
https://l10n.gnome.org/vertimus/gnome-user-docs/master/system-admin-guide/id/
* https://l10n.gnome.org/vertimus/five-or-more/master/help/id/
* https://l10n.gnome.org/vertimus/iagno/master/help/id/
* https://l10n.gnome.org/vertimus/31/27/89/ (gnome system monitor)
* https://l10n.gnome.org/vertimus/gnote/master/help/id/
* https://l10n.gnome.org/vertimus/gthumb/master/help/id/
* https://l10n.gnome.org/vertimus/gucharmap/master/help/id/
* https://l10n.gnome.org/vertimus/shotwell/master/help/id/

We would be very grateful if someone who has git write access to those
modules can help us create those prerequisite directories and language
entry in config files.

Regards,
Andika
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Re: Fwd: Submit Help Translation on GNOME Terminal

[Andika Triwidada via gnome-i18n]

Sorry I'm sick, can not explain right now. Will continue discussion after I
have recovered.

On Tue, Oct 6, 2020 at 6:11 PM Daniel Mustieles García <
daniel.mustie...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Mmmm... that's very strange. Does it happens only in this module or are
> other modules affected by this behaviour?
>
> I have no problem to directly commit gnome-terminal's PO file into git,
> but if something in DL is not working properly then we should ask Claude to
> review it
>
> El mar., 6 oct. 2020 a las 12:56, Andika Triwidada ()
> escribió:
>
>> Problem is, no option exist (on DL's pulldown) to submit it
>>
>> On Tue, Oct 6, 2020 at 12:18 PM Daniel Mustieles García <
>> daniel.mustie...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> I don't think so... just see PO file is not committed, just reserved to
>>> submit. Please submit it and will see if it works. If it doesn't just let
>>> me know and will help you with it.
>>>
>>> Regards
>>>
>>> El lun., 5 oct. 2020 a las 17:15, Andika Triwidada ()
>>> escribió:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Oct 5, 2020 at 2:20 PM Daniel Mustieles García via gnome-i18n <
>>>> gnome-i18n@gnome.org> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>
>>>>> I've added the "id" language to both 3.38 and master branches so now
>>>>> you should be able to add your translations (and also reuse the 3.38 PO
>>>>> file in master to save some time).
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> maybe we need to create "id" subdirectory too?
>>>> or even an empty help/id/id.po?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> It seems that DL it not taking this change and trying to manually
>>>>> update branches page gives a Timeout.
>>>>>
>>>>> @Claude Paroz  could you please review this?
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks!
>>>>>
>>>>> El lun., 5 oct. 2020 a las 8:51, Claude Paroz ()
>>>>> escribió:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Le 05.10.20 à 05:17, Kukuh Syafaat via gnome-i18n a écrit :
>>>>>> > Hi all,
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > The Indonesian team has recently submitted gnome-terminal help
>>>>>> > translation to damned-lies, but the po statistics is still 0% [0].
>>>>>> > I checked on gnome-terminal repository in GitLab [0] and there is no
>>>>>> > `id` folder on help.
>>>>>> > Why damned-lies did not create automatically when the translator
>>>>>> > submit po for the first time?
>>>>>> > Is there any workaround for this?
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > Best Regards.
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > [0]
>>>>>> https://l10n.gnome.org/vertimus/gnome-terminal/gnome-3-38/help/id/level1/
>>>>>> > [1]
>>>>>> https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gnome-terminal/-/tree/master/help
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi Kukuh Syafaat,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I guess the issue is due to using the "Inform of submission" action
>>>>>> instead of the "Submit to repository" action. The former is for those
>>>>>> having committed the file by an other mean that DL itself (e.g. by
>>>>>> command line).
>>>>>>
>>>>>> However, it may be that DL didn't proposed the action because adding
>>>>>> new
>>>>>> translations for modules help without LINGUAS files have to be done
>>>>>> "by
>>>>>> hand", as machine-editing Makefiles is too brittle to be automated.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'm sure someone with GNOME Gitlab commit rights will do the action
>>>>>> for
>>>>>> you soon!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Claude
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>>>>
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Re: Evolution stats in DL are not updated

[Andika Triwidada via gnome-i18n]

On Thu, May 14, 2020 at 7:49 PM Andrea Veri  wrote:
>
> Translators,
>
> we just completed the migration to a different storage backend, please
> let us know whether how that contributed to speed up your day-to-day
> operations.
>
> Thanks!

https://l10n.gnome.org/

Application is not available

The application is currently not serving requests at this endpoint. It
may not have been started or is still starting.

Possible reasons you are seeing this page:

The host doesn't exist. Make sure the hostname was typed correctly and
that a route matching this hostname exists.
The host exists, but doesn't have a matching path. Check if the URL
path was typed correctly and that the route was created using the
desired path.
Route and path matches, but all pods are down. Make sure that the
resources exposed by this route (pods, services, deployment configs,
etc) have at least one pod running.


Is this expected?

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Re: Quality check for docs

[Andika Triwidada]

On Thu, Mar 8, 2018 at 3:58 PM, Claude Paroz  wrote:
> Hi translators,
>
> I just activated a small new functionality for uploaded docs po file on
> l10n.gnome.org.
> You'll notice a new icon top right of comments with doc po files, allowing
> to run an xml quality check through translate-toolkit pofilter.
>
> We might use other pofilter checks (also for ui files) depending on your
> feedback. This may also be team-specific.
>
> Claude


Cool! Very helpful! I just catch several 'buggy' strings this way.

Thank you. Definitely will be used quite frequently.
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Re: Translating recipes

[Andika Triwidada]

I think it will be quite useful to create a 'cooking glossary'. It may
contain ingredient names, photos, etc. Then every recipes should refer
to that glossary.
Or is it already included in GNOME Recipes?

On Mon, Mar 5, 2018 at 8:40 AM, Matthias Clasen
 wrote:
> On Fri, Mar 2, 2018 at 5:57 AM, Daniel Mustieles García
>  wrote:
>>>
>>> - Translating such recipes will now require you to translate from your
>>> language to
>>>   another (most likely, to English).
>>
>>
>> So, if I've understood well, is the translator who has to convert the
>> original text of the recipe into both English and his/her language? If so,
>> here I see two problems:
>>
>>
>>   - Translating from Spanish/translator's language into English: might be
>> difficult because of names of ingredients, recipe's steps (each user might
>> use their own cooking language which not always will have a comprehensive
>> translation into English)
>>
>>   - Traslating from an unknown language (for example, Polish): should I
>> wait Polish translators to translate the recipe into Enslish to be able to
>> translate it into Spanish?
>>
>> Also note that tons of contributions will require tons of hours to
>> translate those recipes... maybe translators won't be able to afford such
>> task and recipes will be left in english (or other language), which is not
>> desirable to expand the use of this great app.
>>
>> Please let me know if I've misunderstood the new flow you're proposing.
>> Maybe it's easier than what I've thought.
>>
>
> Let me try to explain the situation better, and outline what options we have
> to deal with it:
>
> GNOME recipes is about sharing recipes, and we want to avoid the English
> language requirement being a hurdle to contribution.
> So, we expect that going forward, we will get recipe contributions in
> languages other than English, and we want to start accepting
> them. In fact, during the week here in Jogjakarta, Elvin reached out to
> local cooking students and managed to collect more than
> 20 Indonesian recipes!h
>
> There are a few options we have for dealing with this content:
>
> 1) We can introduce the concept of 'recipe packs', eg an 'Indonesian
> recipes' pack that could be installed separately. This would
> come with the understanding that recipes in that pack will only be available
> in the local language. In this case, there is less of a
> need to translate the recipes. But it would still be nice to have a native
> speaker do some quality control on the content, ie check
> punctuation, spelling, etc.
>
> 2) We can just add these recipes to our main pool of recipes as-is. Again,
> we probably want quality control, even if we don't
> require translation. In this case, we probably want to tag recipes with
> their language, and add some language filtering capabilities
> in the applications, so users can control the languages they see. This may
> ultimatively take the form of a desktop-wide 'content
> language' setting (acutally, it may have to be a preference-ordered list).
>
> 3) We can ask you to translate the recipes to English first and only add the
> English translation to the main pool of recipes (with
> the understanding that it would then be translated to other languages like
> other recipes in the pool). This may be a bit problematic,
> since translating recipes is hard, and we've just shifted that burden from
> the contributors to the translators. And translating a
> recipe twice sounds like a recipe (!) for information loss.
>
> 4) Some combination above.
>
> Hope this clarifies
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Re: commit totem nepali translation for gnome development

[Andika Triwidada]

On Fri, Aug 18, 2017 at 11:21 AM, CHAUTARI  wrote:
> hi claude its the same I cannot commit.. please have a look
>
> Thanks
> pawan
>
> On Thu, Aug 17, 2017 at 6:50 PM, Muhammet Kara  wrote:
>>
>> Hi Claude,
>>
>> I have the same issue on Turkish translation, and I still don't see the
>> "Send to repository" action. Could you please take a look at it?
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Muhammet
>>
>> 2017-08-17 14:59 GMT+03:00 Claude Paroz :
>>>
>>> Le 17. 08. 17 à 12:23, CHAUTARI a écrit :

 From: "CHAUTARI" >
 thank you Rafael.
 please check
 https://l10n.gnome.org/vertimus/totem/master/po/ne
 

 i changed the status to ready for submission but there is no option
 for submitting to repository ..
>>>
>>>
>>> Strangely, the git root URL for totem was not appropriately set. I fixed
>>> that, so you should be able to push now.
>>>
>>> Claude
>>> --
>>> www.2xlibre.net

I got the same problem on totem
https://l10n.gnome.org/vertimus/totem/master/help/id

I'm Indonesian team coordinator, but don't have "Submit to repository" option.


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translating old stable version(s)

[Andika Triwidada]

Hello,

Is it worth to continue translating old releases (currently 3.22 and
3.20) which are around 98% complete to become 100%? Is there any
user/distro/etc which will get those late updates if we do continue
translating?

Regards,

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please help commit this empathy-master-help-id translation

[Andika Triwidada]

Please commit this translation, I currently don't have access to my
key needed to
create subdir.

https://l10n.gnome.org/vertimus/296/274/89#189664

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Re: 3.18 Release Notes Ready for Translation!

[Andika Triwidada]

On Thu, Sep 17, 2015 at 12:14 AM, Allan Day  wrote:
> Hi everyone!
>
> GNOME 3.18 is scheduled for release on Wednesday 23 September - that's
> one week from now. The text for the release notes is now finished, and
> can be found here:
>
> https://git.gnome.org/browse/release-notes/log/?h=gnome-3-18
>
> There are a small number of images that are still missing,
> unfortunately. Hopefully these will be added really soon.
>
> Let me know if you have any questions about the content.
>
> Thanks!
>
> Allan

Could someone please create id directory, so I can upload Indonesian
translation there?
Currently I don't have access to my key.

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need context to translate some glade strings

[Andika Triwidada]

Hello,

Can someone explain the context of these strings in glade?
I don't know how to translate them without proper context.

ID | String
1324 | Move Over Up
1325 | Move Over Down
1326 | Move Over Left
1327 | Move Over Right
1328 | Move Over Up-Down
...
1334 | Move Under Left
1335 | Move Under Right

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Re: String additions to 'gnome-sound-recorder.master'

[Andika Triwidada]

On Wed, May 7, 2014 at 8:00 AM, GNOME Status Pages nore...@gnome.org wrote:
 This is an automatic notification from status generation scripts on:
 http://l10n.gnome.org.

 There have been following string additions to module 
 'gnome-sound-recorder.master':

 + Maps media types to audio encoder preset names. If there is no mapping 
 set, the default encoder settings will be used.
 + Micophone volume level
 + Micophone volume level.
 + Speaker volume level
 + Speaker volume level.

 Note that this doesn't directly indicate a string freeze break, but it
 might be worth investigating.
 http://git.gnome.org/browse/gnome-sound-recorder/log/?h=master


Hello,

It is possible to create gnome-3-12 branch before adding these strings?
I saw 3.12.x tags but I think we need version related branch(es) here.

https://l10n.gnome.org/module/gnome-sound-recorder/ stated
This branch is currently string-frozen.

Regards,
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Re: D-L and send images to repository

[Andika Triwidada]

On Mon, Mar 31, 2014 at 9:36 AM, Rafael Ferreira rafael.f...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi there.

 Looks like D-L accepts sending translation of documentation via Send to
 repository. I was wondering: Is it also possible to send images via D-L's
 web interface, or should I still send it via git command line?

I haven't tried other than .po, but allowed attachment on D-L are .po,
.gz, .bz2, and .png.
Problem is, those files can only go to po/ directory, so if you need
to upload .png
to, say, help/pt_BR/, you can't use D-L.

CMIIW

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Re: GNOME-Commander 1.4 to be released on March 17th, 2014

[Andika Triwidada]

On Sun, Feb 9, 2014 at 11:02 PM, Uwe Scholz u.schol...@gmx.de wrote:
 Hello Translation Teams,

 GNOME-Commander 1.4 is planned to be released on Monday, March 17, 2014.

 Major changes and updates were made in the documentation. The
 GNOME-Commander application itself contains some new and changed
 strings.

 All language translations completed prior to March 17th will be included
 in this release. Your language translation efforts are appreciated.

Just to be sure, 1.4 will use translation from master branch?

 Sincerely,
 Uwe Scholz
 (Maintainer of GNOME-Commander)


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Re: Could someone please commit a new Swedish translation of bijiben

[Andika Triwidada]

On Tue, Jan 21, 2014 at 5:20 PM, Fòram na Gàidhlig
f...@foramnagaidhlig.net wrote:

 We actually have the same problem with Scottish Gaelic. We have a big number 
 of translations just catching mold and not making it into git, which is very 
 frustrating. The Irish committer used to help us, but he hasn't been around 
 for a while.


Is there a best practice in GNOME l10n for this kind of request?
I have commit access and willing to help you to commit, but I'm not
sure I'm allowed to do that for your team's work.

Regards,
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Re: Question about translations

[Andika Triwidada]

On Thu, Jan 16, 2014 at 7:52 AM, Gabor Kelemen kelem...@gnome.hu wrote:

 Hi Jim

 I just submitted a request to the sysadmin team to create a git hook for
 this check[0].

 Meanwhile, until it really comes into existence, it would be great if
 the following teams could check the results[1] of my little script[2]
 and fix their translations:

 id


Hi Gabor,

I've checked your result but didn't understand about error messages
and how to fix them.

For instance:

/tmp/common.desktop: error: file contains entry
GenericName[id]=Pemutar Media before the first group, but only
comments are accepted before the first group

What should I do with above error?

Also this:

/tmp/rygel.desktop: warning: value Layanan UPnP/DLNA for key
Comment[id] in group Desktop Entry looks redundant with value
Layanan UPnP/DLNA of key GenericName[id]

Thanks.


[0] https://rt.gnome.org/Ticket/Display.html?id=14101
 [1] http://paste.ubuntu.com/6759144/
 [2] http://paste.ubuntu.com/6758980/

 Regards
 Gabor Kelemen

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need clarification on gnome library web site

[Andika Triwidada]

I can't understand this sentence:

libgit2-glib is a glib library which wraps libgit2 providing making it easier
to develop manage git repositories in a GObject oriented application.

Could someone please explain what do providing making and
to develop manage mean?

Regards,
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Re: String additions to 'gnome-shell.gnome-3-0'

[Andika Triwidada]

On Sun, Sep 29, 2013 at 5:03 PM, Kenneth Nielsen k.nielse...@gmail.com wrote:
 Can anyone explain what the meaning of calendar:MY is and how it should be
 translated. Literally kalendar:MIN in Danish, but I fear some secret
 syntax is at play here.

maybe MY means month  year?


 \Kenneth


 2013/9/27 Piotr Drąg piotrd...@gmail.com

 2013/9/27 GNOME Status Pages nore...@gnome.org:
  This is an automatic notification from status generation scripts on:
  http://l10n.gnome.org.
 
  There have been following string additions to module
  'gnome-shell.gnome-3-0':
 
  + calendar:MY
  + calendar:week_start:0
 

 Hi good folks of i18n,

 This is fallout from updating gettext on damned-lies to the newest
 version, which in itself is a very good thing. Strings in JavaScript
 are now extracted *correctly*, therefore we get new strings in
 gnome-shell. I know it's tempting to update old branches to have 100%
 in statistics, but please avoid doing that if you can. There will be
 no new releases on anything older than 3.10, so updating master should
 be enough. If you absolutely need to do that though, that's also not
 the end of the world. ;)

 And big thanks to Andrea Veri for updating gettext! We really
 appreciate your work.

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Re: Marking lists for translation the right way

[Andika Triwidada]

On Tue, Sep 17, 2013 at 12:54 AM, Alexandre Franke
alexandre.fra...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi,

 https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=708039

 This happens for instance in the new appdata which can have lists of features.
 Should we have the whole list as a single string, making it mandatory
 to check that every li tag has a matching /li but allowing for
 more freedom to translate the whole block and make it more fluid in a
 given language, or should we mark each list item as translateable thus
 having one less error source, but reducing flexibility for
 translators?

You can add some notes for translator, explaining relations between those
items. Translation tools I use don't have built-in check for tag completeness,
so personally I prefer not to have those tags visible in translation
to lessen errors.


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Regards!
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Re: Importing strings from Launchpad

[Andika Triwidada]

On Tue, Sep 17, 2013 at 2:44 AM, Claude Paroz cla...@2xlibre.net wrote:
 Le dimanche 15 septembre 2013 à 08:37 +0100, Fòram na Gàidhlig a écrit :
 I will have a whole bunch of packages translated soon that we did on
 Launchpad. Can I just upload these as they are to Damned Lies and then
 take use those merges to care of the fuzzy strings (my preferred
 option), or do I need to grab the empty packages from Damned Lies first
 and run the msgmerge myself (takes a lot longer)?

 Yes, you can™ :-)
 Try and experiment, then please report your findings.

 Claude


If I remember correctly, LP translation might have different license to GNOME.
GNOME's translation can go to LP but not every LP's can directly go to GNOME?

Regards,
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Re: XML errors in documentation PO file

[Andika Triwidada]

On Tue, Sep 10, 2013 at 9:45 PM, Daniel Mustieles García
daniel.mustie...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi all,

 I've generated a report with some bugs and typos in documentation PO files. 
 As you know, these kind of errors may break the modules's compilation 
 process, so it would be great if each afected language coordinator could fix 
 them.

 This is the list of the affected languages:

 id

Thank you. Indonesian translation cleaned up.



 These reports are generated by an automated script using gtxml. If you want a 
 copy of the script, feel free to ask me about it.

 Thanks in advance and best regards
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What's wrong with this git?

[Andika Triwidada]

Lately, everytime I push translation update, I got something like this:
$ git push
Counting objects: 7, done.
Delta compression using up to 2 threads.
Compressing objects: 100% (4/4), done.
Writing objects: 100% (4/4), 17.36 KiB | 0 bytes/s, done.
Total 4 (delta 3), reused 0 (delta 0)
remote: Can't connect to server: No route to host -
To ssh://git.gnome.org/git/glade
   6d6bfce..15f08f0  HEAD - master

But I didn't see any further problem. Data pushed succesfully. Should
I worry to see that message?

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Re: Commit request for Gtk-UI and Gtk-properties, Interlingua translation

[Andika Triwidada]

On Tue, Apr 9, 2013 at 9:22 PM, Nik Kalach nik.kal...@inbox.ru wrote:

 Hi,

 The Interlingua translation of Gtk-UI for 3.8 is 100% ready.
 I also prepared the initial version of Gtk-properties with just few
 translated strings to satisfy requirements of the build process.
 See modules:
 https://l10n.gnome.org/vertimus/gtk+/gtk-3-8/po/ia
 https://l10n.gnome.org/vertimus/gtk+/gtk-3-8/po-properties/ia

 The uploaded files are available here:
 https://l10n.gnome.org/media/upload-backup/gtk%2B-gtk-3-8-po-ia-489477.po

 https://l10n.gnome.org/media/upload-backup/gtk%2B-gtk-3-8-po-properties-ia-489468_1.po

 Please, commit the translations


Hello Nik,

I think it will be easier if you choose Reserve for translation at start,
then Upload the new translation to upload your translation to DL,
before requesting help for commit.

That way, you only need to provide single URL since anyone
can easily get URL to translated files from there.

You can follow up real commits with Inform of submission later,
as documented in https://l10n.gnome.org/help/vertimus_workflow/

CMIIW

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Re: Re[2]: Commit request for Gtk-UI and Gtk-properties, Interlingua translation

[Andika Triwidada]

On Tue, Apr 9, 2013 at 10:32 PM, Nik Kalach nik.kal...@inbox.ru wrote:


 Tuesday, April  9, 2013 10:16 PM +07:00 from Andika Triwidada 
 and...@gmail.com:
 
  Hello Nik,
 
  I think it will be easier if you choose Reserve for translation at
 start,
  then Upload the new translation to upload your translation to DL,
  before requesting help for commit.
 
  That way, you only need to provide single URL since anyone
  can easily get URL to translated files from there.
 
  You can follow up real commits with Inform of submission later,
  as documented in  https://l10n.gnome.org/help/vertimus_workflow/
 
  CMIIW
 
  --
  andika

 Thanks, I will follow your advise. I am not quite familiar with the GNOME
 translation tools and processes yet and the diagram shown in the
 vertimus_workflow file looks scary and not quite clear for a newcomer like
 me.


Don't worry too much about that complex workflow. It was intended for
complete
team which has different people for each roles (translator, reviewer,
committer).

My team (ID) has only 2 active members, and we didn't fully follow that
workflow.



 Could you also explain to me the difference between Vertimus modules gtk+
 and Gtk-UI?
 They seem to me have very similar content but different action history.


DL's gtk+ is for 3.6 and before, while Gtk-UI and Gtk-properties is for 3.8
and after.



 What happens if the translation is committed to the gtk+ module? Will is
 show up as committed in Gtk-UI?
 Which one of these modules is used to build gtk+ library?

 Thanks again,

 Nik
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Re: LDAP Groups not being synchronized correctly

[Andika Triwidada]

On Fri, Mar 29, 2013 at 5:57 PM, Andrea Veri a...@gnome.org wrote:

 Everything's back at full capacity since a few hours.

 Have an awesome day everyone!


 2013/3/29 Andrea Veri a...@gnome.org

 Hi,

 the SSSD daemons (the one responsible for getting all the relevant
 details from LDAP and setting up user/groups accordingly on all the GNOME
 machines) were restarted due to some changes on their configuration files.

 SSSD has an internal cache and right after the restart some user/groups
 entries were purged and the real problem popped up. For some reason the
 client isn't able to query the groups field on our LDAP server correctly,
 and that's blocking git pushes.

 I'll keep debugging what's going on and keep you informed as soon as
 everything is back to normality.

 Thanks for your patience,



Is there any residual problem? My updates to git hasn't reflected/sync'ed
into Damned Lies.

For instance,
https://git.gnome.org/browse/glib/commit/?h=glib-2-36id=599030ac0508433407b5bedf447748dca0c9f02f
vs https://l10n.gnome.org/vertimus/glib/glib-2-36/po/id

Thank you.

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problem git push to glib-networking

[Andika Triwidada]

Tried to push to glib-networking and got this error:

$ git push --verbose
Pushing to ssh://git.gnome.org/git/glib-networking
Counting objects: 7, done.
Delta compression using up to 2 threads.
Compressing objects: 100% (4/4), done.
Writing objects: 100% (4/4), 641 bytes, done.
Total 4 (delta 3), reused 0 (delta 0)
error: insufficient permission for adding an object to repository
database ./objects

fatal: failed to write object
error: unpack failed: unpack-objects abnormal exit
To ssh://git.gnome.org/git/glib-networking
 ! [remote rejected] master - master (n/a (unpacker error))
error: failed to push some refs to 'ssh://git.gnome.org/git/glib-networking'

Can somebody tell me what's wrong?
Why insufficient permission?

TIA
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Re: problem git push to glib-networking

[Andika Triwidada]

also happened to glib

$ git push
Counting objects: 7, done.
Delta compression using up to 2 threads.
Compressing objects: 100% (4/4), done.
Writing objects: 100% (4/4), 6.69 KiB, done.
Total 4 (delta 3), reused 0 (delta 0)
error: insufficient permission for adding an object to repository
database ./objects

fatal: failed to write object
error: unpack failed: unpack-objects abnormal exit
To ssh://git.gnome.org/git/glib
 ! [remote rejected] HEAD - glib-2-36 (n/a (unpacker error))
error: failed to push some refs to 'ssh://git.gnome.org/git/glib'

On Fri, Mar 29, 2013 at 1:00 PM, Andika Triwidada and...@gmail.com wrote:
 Tried to push to glib-networking and got this error:

 $ git push --verbose
 Pushing to ssh://git.gnome.org/git/glib-networking
 Counting objects: 7, done.
 Delta compression using up to 2 threads.
 Compressing objects: 100% (4/4), done.
 Writing objects: 100% (4/4), 641 bytes, done.
 Total 4 (delta 3), reused 0 (delta 0)
 error: insufficient permission for adding an object to repository
 database ./objects

 fatal: failed to write object
 error: unpack failed: unpack-objects abnormal exit
 To ssh://git.gnome.org/git/glib-networking
  ! [remote rejected] master - master (n/a (unpacker error))
 error: failed to push some refs to 'ssh://git.gnome.org/git/glib-networking'

 Can somebody tell me what's wrong?
 Why insufficient permission?

 TIA
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Re: problem git push to glib-networking

[Andika Triwidada]

On Fri, Mar 29, 2013 at 4:04 PM, Andre Klapper ak...@gmx.net wrote:
 On Fri, 2013-03-29 at 13:09 +0700, Andika Triwidada wrote:
  Can somebody tell me what's wrong?
  Why insufficient permission?

 See the previous post on this mailing list.

Ah. Thank you. I missed that post.


 andre
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Re: Typos in documentation tags

[Andika Triwidada]

On Wed, Mar 20, 2013 at 10:49 PM, Daniel Mustieles García
daniel.mustie...@gmail.com wrote:
 And here is the attatchment Gmail didn't upload before ;)


 2013/3/20 Daniel Mustieles García daniel.mustie...@gmail.com

 Hi again.

 As promised, here is the updated report about typos in documentation tags.

 If your language is on the list, please review and fix to avoid errors
 when compiling the affected modules. Below is the list of the languages with
 errors.


Hello Daniel,

Would you mind telling us how do we verify that our translation
was corrected? Will executing ./configure; make sufficient?

I read your report for ID several times, but didn't know which tag was wrong.

Maybe my eyes are not so good anymore nowadays.

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Re: Typos in documentation tags

[Andika Triwidada]

On Thu, Mar 21, 2013 at 9:30 PM, Andre Klapper ak...@gmx.net wrote:
 On Thu, 2013-03-21 at 21:16 +0700, Andika Triwidada wrote:
 Would you mind telling us how do we verify that our translation
 was corrected? Will executing ./configure; make sufficient?

 I read your report for ID several times, but didn't know which tag was wrong.

 The output of the parser and then reading and comparing the tags
 carefully is all you can do.

 In case of Indonesian:
 * giu instead of gui
 * link instead of link
 * guiseq instead of guiseq
 * guimen instead of guimenu
 * /guibutton instead of /guibutton
 * menuchoices instead of menuchoice

Ouch. seems that I extracted id-report.txt from tar.gz the wrong way.
Thanks so much. I see them now.


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Re: Typos in documentation tags

[Andika Triwidada]

On Wed, Feb 20, 2013 at 7:45 PM, Daniel Mustieles García 
daniel.mustie...@gmail.com wrote:

 Please forget about my previous mail... i didn't change the RELEASE
 variable in my script, so the reports generated were about the 3.6 release.

 Here are the 3.8 reports and the list of the languages affected:

 de
 el
 es
 fr
 id
 pt_BR
 ru
 sl


Thanks for pointer. id was fixed.

Regards,
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DL inconsistency

[Andika Triwidada]

Dear DL admin and translators,

I saw DL inconsistency these last few days. For instance, [1] shows 3
strings untranslated, but when we check from detailed page [2], we will
only see 2 strings untranslated instead of 3. Is this a known problem?

Regards,
Andika

1. http://l10n.gnome.org/teams/id/
2. http://l10n.gnome.org/languages/id/gnome-3-6/ui/
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Re: live branch

[Andika Triwidada]

On Fri, Oct 5, 2012 at 4:40 AM, Gil Forcada gforc...@gnome.org wrote:


 And please, just like Alexandre has made a lot this past days, report
 everything broken, needed-to-be-improved, etc that you find on bugzilla!
 That's the only way we can coordinate the efforts to make it better for
 everyone!


Found two broken image links:
https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=685639

Regards,
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release notes typo: past

[Andika Triwidada]

Hello,

Two things about this sentence: ... alternative to copy and past and
drag and drop.
in users-files.page line 75.

1. s/past /paste /
2. would it be better (less prone to translation error etc) to write it as
 ... alternative to copy amp; paste and drag amp; drop.
or
 ... alternative to copy-and-paste and drag-and-drop.?

Regards,
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Re: 3.6 Release Notes: Please start translating tomorrow!

[Andika Triwidada]

On Mon, Sep 17, 2012 at 5:28 PM, Andre Klapper ak...@gmx.net wrote:
 Hi,
 tonight the release notes will get finalized (the strings at least, I
 cannot promise for the screenshots yet).

 Please translate them from tomorrow morning (in Europe, means: UTC+0200)
 on!  (And please bear with us in case we change two or three more
 strings after the string freeze has started.)
 The 3.6.0 release will be in nine days (Wednesday).

 If you add a new language please also make sure that it is listed under
 HELP_LINGUAS at the bottom of help/Makefile.am!

 Your changes can be seen here after waiting for a few minutes:
 http://library.gnome.org/misc/release-notes/3.6/

 If you want to read the release notes in your language xy, use the
 switcher at the bottom of the page, or go directly to
 http://library.gnome.org/misc/release-notes/3.6/index.html.xy

As usual, username is gnome, and password is 3.6, right?

btw, my latest commit was listed in
http://git.gnome.org/browse/release-notes/log/?h=gnome-3-6
but not reflected yet in
http://l10n.gnome.org/vertimus/release-notes/gnome-3-6/help/id
nor http://library.gnome.org/misc/release-notes/3.6/index.html.id; is
there a sync problem?

Regards,
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about release notes 3.6 translation

[Andika Triwidada]

Hello,

1. Does this page [1] about how to test release notes translation still valid?
I run make but can't find *.xml file.

2. Where do 'More Information' and 'See Also' come from? I think they
need to be translatable too.
See current 
http://library.gnome.org/misc/release-notes/3.6/users-message-tray.html.id
at bottom
for instance.

3. Do we need to increase parameter in configure.ac from 3.4 to 3.6?
$ git diff configure.ac
diff --git a/configure.ac b/configure.ac
index b77fc41..5f88c40 100644
--- a/configure.ac
+++ b/configure.ac
@@ -1,4 +1,4 @@
-AC_INIT([release-notes],[3.4])
+AC_INIT([release-notes],[3.6])

 AC_CONFIG_AUX_DIR([build-aux])


[1] https://live.gnome.org/ReleaseNotes/Translating
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Re: about release notes 3.6 translation

[Andika Triwidada]

On Wed, Sep 19, 2012 at 5:52 PM, Andre Klapper ak...@gmx.net wrote:
 Hi Andika,

 2. Where do 'More Information' and 'See Also' come from? I think they
 need to be translatable too.
 See current 
 http://library.gnome.org/misc/release-notes/3.6/users-message-tray.html.id
 at bottom
 for instance.

 Those strings are part of http://l10n.gnome.org/module/yelp-xsl/

Then why are they still in English? yelp-xsl is already 100%
translated into Indonesian.

Thank you and regards,
Andika
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Re: about release notes 3.6 translation

[Andika Triwidada]

On Wed, Sep 19, 2012 at 6:02 PM, Andika Triwidada and...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Wed, Sep 19, 2012 at 5:52 PM, Andre Klapper ak...@gmx.net wrote:
 Hi Andika,

 2. Where do 'More Information' and 'See Also' come from? I think they
 need to be translatable too.
 See current 
 http://library.gnome.org/misc/release-notes/3.6/users-message-tray.html.id
 at bottom
 for instance.

 Those strings are part of http://l10n.gnome.org/module/yelp-xsl/


I think, 'More Information' is from
http://l10n.gnome.org/module/gnome-web-www/ dynamic content
msgid strongMore Information/strong

Still not sure about where 'See Also' comes from.

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'scren' typo

[Andika Triwidada]

C/users-lock-screen.page has a typo at line 45: scren
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To make a string in baobab's vala source translatable

[Andika Triwidada]

Hello,

While testing translation of baobab, I found a string that should have
been translatable but not yet.
That string resides in a vala code [1].
Would anyone comment/review my patch? It was to make that string translatable.
I have tested it after applying to my test box and rebuilt.

Regards,
Andika Triwidada

1. https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=679785
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Re: typos on libgda?

[Andika Triwidada]

On Mon, Jul 9, 2012 at 12:53 AM, Andre Klapper ak...@gmx.net wrote:

 Hi Andika,

 On Tue, 2012-07-03 at 19:58 +0700, Andika Triwidada wrote:
  msgid Can't build SELECT statement to get last inserted row: %s)
 
  Seems to me that closing parentheses is unneded.
  If that is the case, patch attached will change them into
  Can't build SELECT statement to get last inserted row: %s

 In general: Best place for bugs and their patches is often
 https://bugzilla.gnome.org so it does not get lost.


Hello Andre,

Thanks for your suggestion. Do you think it is still better to report
a bug I'm not sure of, instead of discussing it first?

Regards,
Andika
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Several damned lies errors

[Andika Triwidada]

I've bitten by several damned lies bugs just now:

1. Uploading a file into http://l10n.gnome.org/vertimus/654/611/89
will result in error
Error message is http://l10n.gnome.org/vertimus/82147/89

Galat Server

Maaf, terjadi galat pada server.

It is a bug, because I have set my Site Language preference into
English, not Indonesian.
It is a(nother?) bug, because the file has been tested by msgfmt -vc
fine. Translation file attached.

2. Already reported on other thread, regarding commit
e0531ed50826a9c4a36b8ccadeb2ef4c66fb4098
won't show on http://l10n.gnome.org/vertimus/654/611/89 translation statistics.

What should I do? Report single bug? Report several bugs? Try to
resolve here first?

Regards,
Andika
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several typos on libgda?

[Andika Triwidada]

Hello,

While translating libgda, I found several ambiguous source string. I
think they contain typos.

Proposed correction is attached. Please review.

Thanks,
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Re: Several damned lies errors

[Andika Triwidada]

On Sat, Jul 7, 2012 at 7:15 PM, Andika Triwidada and...@gmail.com wrote:
 I've bitten by several damned lies bugs just now:

 1. Uploading a file into http://l10n.gnome.org/vertimus/654/611/89
 will result in error
 Error message is http://l10n.gnome.org/vertimus/82147/89

 Galat Server

 Maaf, terjadi galat pada server.

 It is a bug, because I have set my Site Language preference into
 English, not Indonesian.
 It is a(nother?) bug, because the file has been tested by msgfmt -vc
 fine. Translation file attached.

 2. Already reported on other thread, regarding commit
 e0531ed50826a9c4a36b8ccadeb2ef4c66fb4098
 won't show on http://l10n.gnome.org/vertimus/654/611/89 translation 
 statistics.

 What should I do? Report single bug? Report several bugs? Try to
 resolve here first?

 Regards,
 Andika

They're ok now.

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typos on libgda?

[Andika Triwidada]

While translating libgda, I found a string occurs on 4 places which
might have typo:

#: ../libgda/sqlite/gda-sqlite-provider.c:2649
#: ../libgda/sqlite/gda-sqlite-provider.c:2661
#: ../providers/mysql/gda-mysql-provider.c:1980
#: ../providers/postgres/gda-postgres-provider.c:1683
#, c-format
msgid Can't build SELECT statement to get last inserted row: %s)

Seems to me that closing parentheses is unneded.
If that is the case, patch attached will change them into
Can't build SELECT statement to get last inserted row: %s

Regards,
Andika


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Re: word counts on damned-lies

[Andika Triwidada]

On Wed, Jun 13, 2012 at 1:50 AM, Gil Forcada gforc...@gnome.org wrote:
 Hi,

 Seems bug #662454 - Incorrect word counts[1] has been fixed!!

 All the credits go to *Jiro Matsuzawa* who found and fixed[2] the
 underlying problem on pocount (a utility in the extremely useful
 translation-toolkit.

 Credit is also due to Friedel Wolff who applied the patch on
 translation-toolkit source code.

 Finally all this got mixed together with the excellent Claude Paroz who
 applied the patch on damned-lies servers!

 So, from today on, we can enjoy a far more accurate word counting on
 l10n.gnome.org, hurray!!

Cool!
Any plan to make word count also appear on main team page or group summary page?
(e.g. on [3] or [4]).
They give more realistic measure of work load ahead instead of string count.

Thanks,
Andika


[3] http://l10n.gnome.org/teams/id/
[4] http://l10n.gnome.org/languages/id/gnome-3-6/ui/
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Re: www.gnome.org translatable

[Andika Triwidada]

On Thu, May 24, 2012 at 4:11 PM, Claude Paroz cla...@2xlibre.net wrote:

 Hi,

 Thanks to the work done by Vinicius Depizzol on a plugin to make
 wordpress content translatable, we should now be able to translate the
 www.gnome.org Web site.

 http://l10n.gnome.org/module/gnome-web-www/

 I will let Vinicius tell us the details about how it will work or how
 often the translations will be updated.


Any news? I specifically would like to know how do we test our translation
before doing commits.

(sorry, my previous post erroneously sent only to Claude)



 Cheers,

 Claude
 --
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Google Code-In 2011 time in hours

[Andika Triwidada]

Hi Andre,

After you have converted all estimated time from days to hours, it seems
that every task,
even the simplest one, need much more time than initially. For instance,
when I wrote
a 2-days task of translating 'dictionary manual' into Indonesian, I was
thinking of
max two 8-hour days, not two 32-hour ones.

Should each of us revise those time estimations?

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Re: Google Code-in

[Andika Triwidada]

2011/10/30 Коростіль Данило ted.korosti...@gmail.com
 I've added two tasks already. I'll try add more ones later.
 Thank you!

Hello,

Ted's two entries
https://live.gnome.org/GoogleCodeIn/Tasks#Translate_PiTiVi_documentation_into_Ukrainian
https://live.gnome.org/GoogleCodeIn/Tasks#Translate_GAP_.28GIMP.29_into_Ukrainian
stated more 7 and 10 days time estimation, while guideline at
https://live.gnome.org/GoogleCodeIn/HowToWriteAGoodTask#Guidelines
suggest 2 to 5 days.

https://live.gnome.org/GoogleCodeIn/Tasks#Translate_Gedit_documentation_into_Latvian
offers an alternative by breaking a long task into two smaller ones.

Which way is preferred at GNOME?

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Re: Google Code-in

[Andika Triwidada]

2011/10/31 Andika Triwidada and...@gmail.com:
 2011/10/30 Коростіль Данило ted.korosti...@gmail.com
 I've added two tasks already. I'll try add more ones later.
 Thank you!

 Hello,

 Ted's two entries
 https://live.gnome.org/GoogleCodeIn/Tasks#Translate_PiTiVi_documentation_into_Ukrainian
 https://live.gnome.org/GoogleCodeIn/Tasks#Translate_GAP_.28GIMP.29_into_Ukrainian
 stated more 7 and 10 days time estimation, while guideline at
 https://live.gnome.org/GoogleCodeIn/HowToWriteAGoodTask#Guidelines
 suggest 2 to 5 days.

 https://live.gnome.org/GoogleCodeIn/Tasks#Translate_Gedit_documentation_into_Latvian
 offers an alternative by breaking a long task into two smaller ones.

 Which way is preferred at GNOME?

 Regards,
 Andika


Ah,
Andre has broken the 10 days task into two smaller ones :D

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Re: More on words (screenshots!)

[Andika Triwidada]

On Mon, Oct 17, 2011 at 5:47 PM, Gil Forcada gforc...@gnome.org wrote:
 Hi all,

 Last weekend I got some time to do add word statistics and progress bars
 on the po file details.

 The code is living in bug #661869[1] and I added a couple of screenshots
 [2][3] to see the actual results of applying the patches.

 Any comments on how are the data displayed would be really appreciated.

 Cheers,

Very interesting feature!
What about extra minor info, add '(translated/fuzzy/untranslated)'
after 'PO file statistics'?
Many times I have to think what those numbers mean.


 [1] https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=661869
 [2] http://bugzilla-attachments.gnome.org/attachment.cgi?id=199090
 [3] http://bugzilla-attachments.gnome.org/attachment.cgi?id=199108

 --
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Re: New team for English Pig Latin epl

[Andika Triwidada]

On Thu, Oct 13, 2011 at 2:02 PM, Claude Paroz cla...@2xlibre.net wrote:

 Le jeudi 13 octobre 2011 à 02:44 -0400, Chris Leonard a écrit :
  On Thu, Oct 13, 2011 at 2:15 AM, Andre Klapper ak...@gmx.net wrote:
          Hi,
 
          On Wed, 2011-10-12 at 19:51 +0200, Alexander Jansen wrote:
           English Pig Latin     Hngliseus Gipus Natilus         epl
 
 
          Is there a glibc locale for this, or have you applied for one
          in
          http://sources.redhat.com/bugzilla ?
 
  Probably needs to get it accepted as an ISO-639 code first,
 
  http://www.loc.gov/standards/iso639-2/php/iso639-2form.php
 
  let me know how that goes. . .

 Being a language game, I somehow doubt that it will be accepted by
 glibc or iso.

Klingon has ISO language code ;)

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Re: New release set

[Andika Triwidada]

On Mon, Sep 26, 2011 at 1:35 PM, Claude Paroz cla...@2xlibre.net wrote:

 Hi all,

 I eventually created the stable GNOME Extra Applications release set we
 discussed some time ago:
 http://l10n.gnome.org/releases/gnome-extras-stable/

 Thanks to help us keeping it up-to-date.


I didn't recall which discussion, care to remind me?
Anyway, will this change translation priorities of those apps to be higher
than
the rest of gnome-extras?

Regards,
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l10n.g.o page for billreminder error

[Andika Triwidada]

http://l10n.gnome.org/module/po/billreminder.po.billreminder-0.4.0.id.po
https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=660109

thanks
Andika
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Re: 3.2 Release Notes Available for Translation

[Andika Triwidada]

On Wed, Sep 21, 2011 at 4:28 PM, Luc Pionchon pionchon@gmail.comwrote:

 Hello,

 could someone explain with simple terms what the following means?

 Atomic operations have been rewritten to use gcc builtins; calls with 
 explicit casts may be problematic.

 Atomic operations on pointers have been added, including bit-locks on 
 pointer-size locations.


http://wiki.osdev.org/Atomic_operation

IMHO developers are already familiar with these terms:
atomic operation, gcc builtin, explicit cast, bit-lock

Maybe you don't need to translate those terms?

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Re: 3.2 Release Notes Available for Translation

[Andika Triwidada]

On Wed, Sep 21, 2011 at 6:12 PM, Luc Pionchon pionchon@gmail.comwrote:

 On Wed, Sep 21, 2011 at 13:32, Andika Triwidada and...@gmail.com wrote:

 On Wed, Sep 21, 2011 at 4:28 PM, Luc Pionchon pionchon@gmail.comwrote:

 Hello,

 could someone explain with simple terms what the following means?

 Atomic operations have been rewritten to use gcc builtins; calls with 
 explicit casts may be problematic.

 Atomic operations on pointers have been added, including bit-locks on 
 pointer-size locations.


 http://wiki.osdev.org/Atomic_operation

 IMHO developers are already familiar with these terms:
 atomic operation, gcc builtin, explicit cast, bit-lock

 Maybe you don't need to translate those terms?


 Thank you for the reference!
 It still seems very low level, and far from common application development,
 am I wrong?


yes, they're very low level


 Let me ask in other words. In the context of GNOME platform release notes,
 what is the main information? What does it bring to developers? Is it a new
 API? A new facility? Or a performance improvement? Or just a warning that
 internal changes may now break things? Is it targeted at glib developers or
 application developers?


I guess you need to check http://library.gnome.org/misc/release-notes/3.2/
to see how those PO lines will be grouped together for final presentation.

There are section for end users, another section for developers who has
concern to glib, another one to gtk+, and so on.

ps: I'm not a GNOME developer, so my interpretation
could be hugely wrong :D

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Re: reverting a commit

[Andika Triwidada]

On Wed, Aug 24, 2011 at 11:06 PM, mousavi.ar...@gmail.com
mousavi.ar...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi;

 I've committed my translation in the wrong branch of gnome-shell
 accidentally. The commit ID is: 1826108cb54a79cbfd8a500ad90b98dfa9cd6ed1 on
 gnome-3-0 branch.
 Now whenever I type git revert 1826108cb54a79cbfd8a500ad90b98dfa9cd6ed1
 the whole terminal goes to an unstopable loop and nothing happens after all.
 Can anybody help me with that?

Here I got an editor screen like what I usually got when I did 'git commit'.
I guess there is something wrong with your environment

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inconsistent data?

[Andika Triwidada]

Hi,

My user page in Damned Lies [1] shows several items.
One of them give (4th entry) error page when clicked [2].
Could someone tell me what's going on there?

Regards,
Andika


1: http://l10n.gnome.org/users/andika/
2: http://l10n.gnome.org/vertimus/12/11/89
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Re: inconsistent data?

[Andika Triwidada]

On Wed, Aug 17, 2011 at 10:24 PM, Claude Paroz cla...@2xlibre.net wrote:

 Le mercredi 17 août 2011 à 21:35 +0700, Andika Triwidada a écrit :
  Hi,
 
  My user page in Damned Lies [1] shows several items.
  One of them give (4th entry) error page when clicked [2].
  Could someone tell me what's going on there?

  Regards,
  Andika
 
  1: http://l10n.gnome.org/users/andika/
  2: http://l10n.gnome.org/vertimus/12/11/89

 Hi,

 Could you please file a bug report?
 https://bugzilla.gnome.org/enter_bug.cgi?product=damned-lies

 This is probably due to the fact there is no more System admin guide in
 gnome-user-docs master. But this entry you mentioned should also have
 been deleted. I will investigate.

 Claude


Hello Claude,

Bug reported in https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=656779

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translation of gnome3.org and release notes

[Andika Triwidada]

Dear GNOME translators,

What is the point of translating language names in http://www.gnome3.org/
(bottom, after This website is available in many languages:)
I think they are needed by visitor who prefer to read in his/her native
language,
thus easier for them to read their language name in their native charater.
So no need to be translated,
like right side frame in http://library.gnome.org/misc/release-notes/3.0/

Btw, I have commited Indonesian translation to gnome3-web, but Indonesian
doesn't come up in language links?

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Re: translation of gnome3.org and release notes

[Andika Triwidada]

On Tue, Apr 19, 2011 at 9:13 PM, Simos Xenitellis 
simos.li...@googlemail.com wrote:

 On Tue, Apr 19, 2011 at 5:03 PM, Andika Triwidada and...@gmail.com
 wrote:
  Dear GNOME translators,
  What is the point of translating language names in
 http://www.gnome3.org/
  (bottom, after This website is available in many languages:)
  I think they are needed by visitor who prefer to read in his/her native
  language,
  thus easier for them to read their language name in their native
 charater.

 When you translate the release notes, you do not need to translate
 these language name strings, so you just copy the original string.
 The reason why they show up in the .PO file is that it needs some
 effort to mark them as 'untranslatable' (may not be possible either).

Ok. Thanks for explanation.



  So no need to be translated,
  like right side frame in
 http://library.gnome.org/misc/release-notes/3.0/
  Btw, I have commited Indonesian translation to gnome3-web, but Indonesian
  doesn't come up in language links?

 You need to edit the index.html file yourself for this.
 See for more at
 http://mail.gnome.org/archives/gnome-i18n/2011-April/msg00187.html
 Then, your translation will appear on gnome3.org.

 If you need help with the addition to index.html, ask here.

 Simos


Will do. Thanks again. To Andre Klapper too.

Regards,
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Re: commit tertunda

[Andika Triwidada]

2011/2/10 Andika Triwidada and...@gmail.com

 Buat Dirgita, terima kasih sudah mengunggah banyak berkas baru,
 mohon maaf belum sempat di-commit. Semoga bisa saya selesaikan
 weekend ini.

 Buat yang lain, ayo, jangan malu-malu, masih sangat banyak modul
 yang belum disentuh.

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Uh, sorry guys. I just realized that this post was in the wrong mailing
list.
Should have been in our internal list.

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commit tertunda

[Andika Triwidada]

Buat Dirgita, terima kasih sudah mengunggah banyak berkas baru,
mohon maaf belum sempat di-commit. Semoga bisa saya selesaikan
weekend ini.

Buat yang lain, ayo, jangan malu-malu, masih sangat banyak modul
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commit to wrong branch

[Andika Triwidada]

I should have not done some important work while sleepy :(
Here is the situation:

commit b297b1f0fa2a73ae418d0825d48dcd5719cbd083
to cheese, branch gnome-2-32 was supposed for branch master.

Please tell me best corrective action.

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Re: commit to wrong branch

[Andika Triwidada]

On Sat, Jan 8, 2011 at 1:29 AM, Johannes Schmid j...@jsschmid.de wrote:
 Hi!

 Am Freitag, den 07.01.2011, 23:34 +0700 schrieb Andika Triwidada:

 commit b297b1f0fa2a73ae418d0825d48dcd5719cbd083
 to cheese, branch gnome-2-32 was supposed for branch master.

 On gnome-2-32: git revert b297b1f0fa
 On master: git cherry-pick b297b1f0fa

 But that assumes that your master and gnome-2-32 translation were identical
 before the commit. Otherwise you will get merge errors with the later
 command.

 Regards,
 Johannes



Change to gnome-2-32 reverted.
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[anjuta] fortan typo?

[Andika Triwidada]

Are these typos?

$ grep -rni fortan anjuta
anjuta/plugins/am-project/am-properties.c:145:  {N_(Fortan compiler 
flags:),
anjuta/plugins/am-project/am-properties.c:272:  {N_(Fortan compiler 
flags:),  
anjuta/plugins/am-project/am-properties.c:424:  {N_(Fortan compiler 
flags:),  
anjuta/plugins/am-project/am-properties.c:576:  {N_(Fortan compiler 
flags:),  
anjuta/po/es.po:4275:msgid Fortan compiler flags:
anjuta/po/gl.po:4286:msgid Fortan compiler flags:
anjuta/po/nb.po:4244:msgid Fortan compiler flags:
anjuta/po/sl.po:4290:msgid Fortan compiler flags:
anjuta/po/sv.po:4287:msgid Fortan compiler flags:
anjuta/po/th.po:4221:msgid Fortan compiler flags:
anjuta/po/ug.po:4198:msgid Fortan compiler flags:
anjuta/po/ug.po:4199:msgstr Fortan تەھرىرلىگۈچ بەلگىسى:
anjuta/po/zh_CN.po:4226:msgid Fortan compiler flags:
anjuta/po/zh_HK.po:4298:msgid Fortan compiler flags:
anjuta/po/zh_TW.po:4298:msgid Fortan compiler flags:

because later

$ grep -rniA 3 fortan anjuta/plugins/am-project
anjuta/plugins/am-project/am-properties.c:145:  {N_(Fortan compiler 
flags:),
anjuta/plugins/am-project/am-properties.c-146-  
ANJUTA_PROJECT_PROPERTY_LIST,
anjuta/plugins/am-project/am-properties.c-147-  
ANJUTA_PROJECT_PROPERTY_READ_WRITE,
anjuta/plugins/am-project/am-properties.c-148-  N_(Common 
additional
Fortran compiler flags for all targets in this group.)},
--
anjuta/plugins/am-project/am-properties.c:272:  {N_(Fortan compiler 
flags:),  
anjuta/plugins/am-project/am-properties.c-273-  
ANJUTA_PROJECT_PROPERTY_LIST,
anjuta/plugins/am-project/am-properties.c-274-  
ANJUTA_PROJECT_PROPERTY_READ_WRITE,
anjuta/plugins/am-project/am-properties.c-275-  N_(Additional
Fortran compiler flags for this target.)},
--
anjuta/plugins/am-project/am-properties.c:424:  {N_(Fortan compiler 
flags:),  
anjuta/plugins/am-project/am-properties.c-425-  
ANJUTA_PROJECT_PROPERTY_LIST,
anjuta/plugins/am-project/am-properties.c-426-  
ANJUTA_PROJECT_PROPERTY_READ_WRITE,
anjuta/plugins/am-project/am-properties.c-427-  N_(Additional
Fortran compiler flags for this target.)},
--
anjuta/plugins/am-project/am-properties.c:576:  {N_(Fortan compiler 
flags:),  
anjuta/plugins/am-project/am-properties.c-577-  
ANJUTA_PROJECT_PROPERTY_LIST,
anjuta/plugins/am-project/am-properties.c-578-  
ANJUTA_PROJECT_PROPERTY_READ_WRITE,
anjuta/plugins/am-project/am-properties.c-579-  N_(Additional
Fortran compiler flags for this target.)},

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Re: [anjuta] fortan typo?

[Andika Triwidada]

On Thu, Jan 6, 2011 at 8:57 PM, Christian Rose ment...@gnome.org wrote:
 2011/1/6 Andika Triwidada and...@gmail.com:
 Are these typos?

 Most likely. Please bug report at
 http://bugzilla.gnome.org/enter_bug.cgi?product=anjutacomponent=core%20application
 (also linked to from http://l10n.gnome.org/module/anjuta/).


 Christian



Thanks. Just to make sure. I might not aware of another programming language
which has very similar name to Fortran ;)

Regards,
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pulseaudio transifex URL change

[Andika Triwidada]

Seems that PulseAudio's translation page on Transifex
has moved from http://www.transifex.net/projects/p/pulseaudio/c/master-tx/
to http://www.transifex.net/projects/p/pulseaudio/resource/master-tx-po-pulseaudio-pot/

$ diff -urN damned-lies.master.pot*
--- damned-lies.master.pot 2011-01-04 21:29:41.0 +0700
+++ damned-lies.master.pot.new 2011-01-04 21:41:30.0 +0700
@@ -1306,8 +1306,7 @@
 PulseAudio is a sound system for POSIX OSes, meaning that it is a proxy for 
 your sound applications. \n
 Please submit your translation through the a href=\\n
-http://www.transifex.net/projects/p/pulseaudio/c/master-tx/\;Transifex 
-platform/a.
+http://www.transifex.net/projects/p/pulseaudio/resource/master-tx-po-pulseaudio-pot/\;Transifex
platform/a.
 msgstr 
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Fwd: Issue with Gnome 2.30.2 gtk 2.20 version

[Andika Triwidada]

resent to mailing list
I always forget to do reply all :(


-- Forwarded message --
From: Andika Triwidada and...@gmail.com
Date: Tue, Oct 5, 2010 at 6:01 PM
Subject: Re: Issue with Gnome 2.30.2 gtk 2.20 version
To: Narine Martirosyan narine_martiros...@instigatedesign.com


On Tue, Oct 5, 2010 at 5:37 PM, Narine Martirosyan
narine_martiros...@instigatedesign.com wrote:

 Hello,

 I have installed Gnome 2.30.2. There are lot of applications (gedit, 
 calculator, etc) which menu item translations are taken from gtk, as they are 
 stock labels: New, Cut, Copy... As I understood gtk version used in 
 2.30 is 2.20.

 I generated pot file from nowdays gtk+ 2.20 revision and it contains no 
 New, Copy, etc... strings.

I believe they are in libgnomeui

Now I have a question to all translators:
Since not all strings which appears in an application comes from that
application itself,
or sometime we doesn't even know what application is running and displaying
a specific string, is there a web based service/standalone application
which can help us
finding which module contains that string? Do you have to search that
manually from
local git copy?

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Re: GNOME 2.32 Release Notes

[Andika Triwidada]

On Fri, Sep 24, 2010 at 8:11 AM, Paul Cutler pcut...@gnome.org wrote:
 Hi localization teams!
 In the better late than never category, the Release Notes are now ready for
 translation.  They are in the release-notes repo in the gnome-2-32 branch.
 I sincerely apologize for the delay in getting these ready for you.
 Please let me know if you have any questions.
 Paul

Hello Paul,

Where can we get POTfile? Or should we translate XML files directly?
[1] doesn't have 2.32 yet

Thanks,
Andika

[1] http://l10n.gnome.org/module/release-notes/
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Re: GNOME 2.32 Release Notes

[Andika Triwidada]

typo?


diff --git a/help/C/rnlookingforward.xml b/help/C/rnlookingforward.xml
index 07db4a1..cd227a8 100644
--- a/help/C/rnlookingforward.xml
+++ b/help/C/rnlookingforward.xml
@@ -20,7 +20,7 @@
 and the GNOME Activity Journal which easily helps you browse
and find files on your computer.  GNOME 3.0 also will include
new features
in accessibility, new user help and documentation, GNOME's
first web service
-in Tomboy Online and more.  For developers, GNOME 2.30 deprecates a
+in Tomboy Online and more.  For developers, GNOME
gnomeversion; deprecates a
 number of old libraries.
/para
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Re: GNOME 2.32 Release Notes

[Andika Triwidada]

another typo in rndevelopers.xml?

diff --git a/help/C/rndevelopers.xml b/help/C/rndevelopers.xml
index 5eb2573..f0d9672 100644
--- a/help/C/rndevelopers.xml
+++ b/help/C/rndevelopers.xml
@@ -62,7 +62,7 @@
Glib also includes new support for dtrace and systemtap
static markers;
GObject property bindings, such as libexo; and proxy support for
GSocket.  Other improvements include new convenience
macros to implement
-   boxe and pointer types in classnameG_DEFINE_[BOXED|POINTER]_TYPE
+   boxed and pointer types in classnameG_DEFINE_[BOXED|POINTER]_TYPE
/classname and lastly, a new function
classnameg_object_notify_by_pspec/classname which is
faster than
classnameg_object_notify/classname.
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Re: git problems

[Andika Triwidada]

On Sat, Sep 11, 2010 at 6:13 PM, Tirumurti Vasudevan agnih...@gmail.comwrote:

 how to avoid getting left behind like this?


 On Sat, Sep 11, 2010 at 4:42 PM, Tirumurti Vasudevan 
 agnih...@gmail.comwrote:

 stats improved but not 100%
 gnome-color-manager
 http://l10n.gnome.org/vertimus/gnome-color-manager/gnome-2-32/po/ta
 gnome-2-32 81 81% (311/48/24)

 hmmm guess i will have to put up with it.
 or anything else?


Usually I resync with newest POT before commiting, to catch those new
strings
changed from last time we start doing translation to current.

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Evolution:12-hour vs 24-hour time

[Andika Triwidada]

Could someone please explain, how to proceed with bug #574857?
https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=574857

Bug reporter said:
 André 
Klapperhttps://bugzilla.gnome.org/page.cgi?id=describeuser.htmllogin=a9016009%40gmx.de
[reporter] [developer]   2009-03-10 21:48:17 UTC

First paste is from Evolution, second one is from Evolution-Data-Server:

#. strftime format of a weekday, a date and a time, 12-hour.
#: ../calendar/gui/e-cell-date-edit-text.c:112
msgid %a %m/%d/%Y %I:%M:%S %p
msgstr %a %m/%d/%Y %I:%M:%S %p

#. strptime format of a weekday, a date and a time,
#. in 12-hour format.
#. strftime format of a weekday, a date and a
#. time, in 12-hour format.
#: ../libedataserver/e-time-utils.c:1644 ../libedataserver/e-time-utils.c:1911
msgid %a %m/%d/%Y %I:%M:%S %p
msgstr %a %d/%m/%Y %H:%M:%S


Which I answered:
 Andika Triwidada
https://bugzilla.gnome.org/page.cgi?id=describeuser.htmllogin=andika%40gmail.com






  2010-04-19 05:01:47 UTC




Comments were confusing. Indonesia uses 24-hour time format. But if package
'require' (?) a 12-hour format, should we let it as is, or translate into
24-hour format?



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Re: Need help to commit translations

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On Wed, Aug 25, 2010 at 8:44 PM, Kjartan Maraas kmar...@broadpark.nowrote:

 on., 18.08.2010 kl. 15.45 +0600, skrev Baurzhan Muftakhidinov:
  Hi all!
 
  Please commit following translations:
 
  1) http://l10n.gnome.org/vertimus/ekiga/master/po/kk
  2) http://l10n.gnome.org/vertimus/empathy/master/po/kk
  3) http://l10n.gnome.org/vertimus/evince/master/po/kk
  4) http://l10n.gnome.org/vertimus/gnome-terminal/master/po/kk
  5) http://l10n.gnome.org/vertimus/nautilus/gnome-2-32/po/kk
 
 I gather you got those commited yourself from looking at ekiga and
 empathy?

 Cheers
 Kjartan


git show --pretty=full 29ccfaf0090f311a83b09533d0416938d4d19aca|head
commit 29ccfaf0090f311a83b09533d0416938d4d19aca
Author: Baurzhan Muftakhidinov baurthefi...@gmail.com
Commit: Simos Xenitellis si...@gnome.org

l10n: Added Kazakh translation for ekiga

diff --git a/po/kk.po b/po/kk.po
new file mode 100644
index 000..c4c3eae
--- /dev/null
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packagekit - sync problem?

[Andika Triwidada]

Hello,

I have asked a friend who has commit access to upload Indonesian translation
for packagekit via
https://translate.fedoraproject.org/projects/p/packagekit/c/master/

He has uploaded it successfully on around August 13th, but it seems that
the result has not been propagated into
GNOME http://l10n.gnome.org/vertimus/packagekit/master/po/id
nor git://anongit.freedesktop.org/git/packagekit/PackageKit

What happened? Should I wait for Sept 6th as stated in
http://www.packagekit.org/pk-download.html ?

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what does 'Property Nicks' mean?

[Andika Triwidada]

While translating damned-lies, I have difficulty translating 'Property Nicks'.
Is it only used in GTK+?
What does it mean? Shallow cuts in property?

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Fwd: packagekit - sync problem?

[Andika Triwidada]

forgot to do reply all

*sigh*

On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 3:04 AM, Dimitris Glezos gle...@indifex.com wrote:
 On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 10:45 PM, Claude Paroz cla...@2xlibre.net wrote:
 Le jeudi 19 août 2010 à 00:45 +0700, Andika Triwidada a écrit :
 Hello,

 I have asked a friend who has commit access to upload Indonesian translation
 for packagekit via
 https://translate.fedoraproject.org/projects/p/packagekit/c/master/

 He has uploaded it successfully on around August 13th, but it seems that
 the result has not been propagated into
 GNOME http://l10n.gnome.org/vertimus/packagekit/master/po/id
 nor git://anongit.freedesktop.org/git/packagekit/PackageKit

 What happened? Should I wait for Sept 6th as stated in
 http://www.packagekit.org/pk-download.html ?

 It seems that Transifex is committing on git.packagekit.org, not
 directly on freedesktop repo. I don't know how repositories are
 organized/synchronized. You should probably ask packagekit maintainers.

 Indeed, this is the case. git.packagekit.org is the repo used by
 committers, and the freedesktop repo is the one publicly available for
 reading. It updates almost every day, AFAIK.


Hmm. I guess I'll wait for Richard before pursue this further
http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/packagekit/2010-August/005821.html


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Re: Help to Commit Translation for Malay

[Andika Triwidada]

On Sat, Jun 19, 2010 at 7:14 PM, Umarzuki Mochlis umarz...@gmail.comwrote:



 On Sat, Jun 19, 2010 at 8:06 PM, Funda Wang fundaw...@gmail.com wrote:

 He should occupy gnome-packagekit master branch at l10n.gnome.org,
 then submit the PO file directly.


 Any article that elaborates on this?
 Thanks.



I think the main problem is that no one on Malay team has git commit access.
Why don't you as coordinator has one?

If you have git commit access, then you can execute your translation
flow internally (within your team), and only resort to this global list for
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typo on gnome-main-menu?

[Andika Triwidada]

$ grep -rHn than this limit *|head -1
main-menu/etc/slab.schemas.in.in:155:                longdetermines
the limit of items in the file-area.  The number favorite items is not
limited.  This limit applies to the number of recent items, i.e. the
number of recent items displayed is limited to max_total_items - the
number of favorite items.  If the number of favorite items exceeds
max_total_items - min_recent_items than this limit is ignored./long

... than this limit ... - shouldn't it be ... then this limit ... ?

Otherwise I must rethink my translation.

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Re: typo on gnome-main-menu?

[Andika Triwidada]

On Tue, Jun 1, 2010 at 10:39 PM, Johannes Schmid j...@jsschmid.de wrote:
 Hi!

 Am Dienstag, den 01.06.2010, 22:20 +0700 schrieb Andika Triwidada:
 $ grep -rHn than this limit *|head -1
 main-menu/etc/slab.schemas.in.in:155:                longdetermines
 the limit of items in the file-area.  The number favorite items is not
 limited.  This limit applies to the number of recent items, i.e. the
 number of recent items displayed is limited to max_total_items - the
 number of favorite items.  If the number of favorite items exceeds
 max_total_items - min_recent_items than this limit is ignored./long

 ... than this limit ... - shouldn't it be ... then this limit ... ?

 Otherwise I must rethink my translation.

 Despite that I think there is an of missing in the first line, could
 you file a bug against the main-menu, please? I am sure the developers
 will fix it.

 Thanks,
 Johannes


Done
https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=620269

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legal notice must not translated?

[Andika Triwidada]

Hi,

I read something we (Indonesian translators) have been done differently than
this rule for GNOME:

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/L10N/FAQ#Should_I_translate_legal_notices.3F

Should I translate legal notices?

No. You must never do that. The exact wording of the legal notices is
very important and a translation not approved by lawyers is very
risky. Red Hat is the legal representative and primary sponsor of the
Fedora Project and does not have the resources to cross check every
single translation. Just leave the original English notice in tact
when it covers legal matters.

What is GNOME l10n's policy about this?

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Re: legal notice must not translated?

[Andika Triwidada]

On Wed, Apr 28, 2010 at 10:42 PM, Johannes Schmid j...@jsschmid.de wrote:
 Hi!

 I am not entirely sure if we set up a formal GNOME policy at least I
 couldn't find something in the wiki.

 But AFAIK this discussion came up from time to time and it is right that
 you must NOT translate legal notices because the software is licensed
 with the exact wording and not in any translation.

 Usually the legal notice (usually GPLv2 or v3) shouldn't be marked for
 translation.

Umm, maybe I misunderstood what legal notice means.

For instance, is this legal a notice?
http://git.gnome.org/browse/gnome-packagekit/tree/po/id.po#n1017

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can't commit to file-roller

[Andika Triwidada]

Could somebody tell me what's wrong with this?
I can't push an update to file-roller

and...@quirk-a:/S/gnome/file-roller/po$ git branch
* master
and...@quirk-a:/S/gnome/file-roller/po$ git status
warning: refname 'HEAD' is ambiguous.
warning: refname 'HEAD' is ambiguous.
# On branch master
# Your branch is ahead of 'origin/master' by 1 commit.
#
warning: refname 'HEAD' is ambiguous.
nothing to commit (working directory clean)
and...@quirk-a:/S/gnome/file-roller/po$ git config -l
user.name=Andika Triwidada
user.email=and...@gmail.com
color.ui=auto
alias.up=pull --rebase
push.default=current
core.repositoryformatversion=0
core.filemode=true
core.bare=false
core.logallrefupdates=true
remote.origin.fetch=+refs/heads/*:refs/remotes/origin/*
remote.origin.url=ssh://git.gnome.org/git/file-roller
branch.master.remote=origin
branch.master.merge=refs/heads/master
push.default=current
and...@quirk-a:/S/gnome/file-roller/po$ git push
Everything up-to-date
and...@quirk-a:/S/gnome/file-roller/po$ date
Sat Apr 24 16:28:02 WIT 2010


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Re: can't commit to file-roller

[Andika Triwidada]

On Sat, Apr 24, 2010 at 4:30 PM, Andika Triwidada and...@gmail.com wrote:
 Could somebody tell me what's wrong with this?
 I can't push an update to file-roller

nevermind

git tag -d HEAD
then
git push

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Problem with Damned Lies?

[Andika Triwidada]

I've just commited new Indonesian translation to gnome-themes-extra,
$ git log
commit 272297d74a45a506212b559cd9d720ca7e9ef782
Author: Andika Triwidada and...@gmail.com
Date:   Fri Apr 16 13:00:20 2010 +0700

Added Indonesian translation, contributed by Imam Musthaqim
Added id to LINGUAS

But it isn't reflected on
http://l10n.gnome.org/vertimus/gnome-themes-extras/master/po/id
nor http://l10n.gnome.org/languages/id/gnome-extras/ui/

What's really going on? It also happened on a few other commits I did
yesterday. (Will track which later if needed).

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Re: Problem with Damned Lies?

[Andika Triwidada]

On Fri, Apr 16, 2010 at 1:52 PM, Claude Paroz cla...@2xlibre.net wrote:
 Le vendredi 16 avril 2010 à 13:07 +0700, Andika Triwidada a écrit :
 I've just commited new Indonesian translation to gnome-themes-extra,
 $ git log
 commit 272297d74a45a506212b559cd9d720ca7e9ef782
 Author: Andika Triwidada and...@gmail.com
 Date:   Fri Apr 16 13:00:20 2010 +0700

     Added Indonesian translation, contributed by Imam Musthaqim
     Added id to LINGUAS

 But it isn't reflected on
 http://l10n.gnome.org/vertimus/gnome-themes-extras/master/po/id
 nor http://l10n.gnome.org/languages/id/gnome-extras/ui/

 What's really going on? It also happened on a few other commits I did
 yesterday. (Will track which later if needed).

 You probably forgot to add the id.po file in your commit. See
 http://git.gnome.org/browse/gnome-themes-extras/commit/?id=272297d74a45a506212b559cd9d720ca7e9ef782

 You have to explicitely 'git add' the new files you add in a module
 before the commit (or specifically name the file in the 'git commit'
 statement).

 Claude

Ugh, shame on me :(

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Re: some changes on Indonesian Team

[Andika Triwidada]

On Thu, Apr 15, 2010 at 2:17 PM, Claude Paroz cla...@2xlibre.net wrote:

 Le jeudi 15 avril 2010 à 09:06 +0700, Andika Triwidada a écrit :
  Hi all,
 
  I'd like to announce several info regarding Indonesian Translation Team
  * new web page (a wiki) at http://i15n.org/GNOME
  * new mailing list at gnome-l10n...@googlegroups.com
  * new email at gn...@i15n.org

 You can edit your team information on l10n.gnome.org by clicking on the
 pencil icon next to the Details title on your team's main page.

Ahh, ok. I missed that. Thank you.


  Could someone explain how do we make sure that our setup for handling
  bugzilla bug reports was properly done?

 Currently both the Default Assignee and the Default QA Contact is set up
 to your personal address.
 https://bugzilla.gnome.org/describecomponents.cgi?product=l10n

 Several team choose to request a Bugzilla alias (e.g.
 l10n-fr-ma...@gnome.bugs) so each registered Bugzilla user can simply
 receive all bugs email by watching the alias (configurable in Email
 Preferences).
 If you want such an alias, open a bug report against the
 bugzilla.gnome.org product (or ping someone on #bugs).

 Claude

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some changes on Indonesian Team

[Andika Triwidada]

Hi all,

I'd like to announce several info regarding Indonesian Translation Team
* new web page (a wiki) at http://i15n.org/GNOME
* new mailing list at gnome-l10n...@googlegroups.com
* new email at gn...@i15n.org

Could someone explain how do we make sure that our setup for handling
bugzilla bug reports was properly done?

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Re: 2.30 Release Notes

[Andika Triwidada]

Empathy will now display an information bar in the contact list when
an account fails to connect featuring a button that makes it easy to
try and connect again or edit the account seetings.

tiny typo: seetings
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