Something wrong with bug-buddy doc?
Hi all, is there anything wrong with the bug buddy documentation? http://l10n.gnome.org/vertimus/bug-buddy/master/help/es Cheers. -- Jorge González González Weblog: http://aloriel.no-ip.org Fotolog: http://www.flickr.com/photos/aloriel ___ gnome-i18n mailing list gnome-i18n@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-i18n
Re: GCompris needs a translation update
Hi, > Oh, darn, and I was updating master all the time, leaving gcompriogoo > unmaintained. > Shouldn't be master branch the one "logically" always on the top of > development? > > Are there any other project with not-master as their master? > Just want to know, how much work I will have to do again. This should > be policy if you ask me. I agree with you, but GCompris developers have warned several times in this list. Anyway, you can use most of those translations into the gcomprixogoo branch. Cheers. -- Jorge González González Weblog: http://aloriel.no-ip.org Fotolog: http://www.flickr.com/photos/aloriel ___ gnome-i18n mailing list gnome-i18n@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-i18n
Re: GCompris needs a translation update
Hi: El mar, 02-11-2010 a las 22:58 +0100, Bruno Coudoin escribió: > Hi, > > We have set the 26th of November as the new release date for GCompris. A > good opportunity to update the translation if its not already done. are you going to release the new version based on gcomprixogoo or in master? Thanks. -- Jorge González González Weblog: http://aloriel.no-ip.org Fotolog: http://www.flickr.com/photos/aloriel ___ gnome-i18n mailing list gnome-i18n@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-i18n
Re: Translating schema files (was: Re: Survey results (yay!))
El mar, 02-11-2010 a las 12:09 +0200, li...@kambanaria.org escribió: > Just to suggest an idea: > > The predominant message thus far has been "Developers you should do more > work, so that we can translate less of your application". Perhaps we can > improve it a bit. > > Speaking as a member of a supported language: > > The style of the translation of strings is different depending on the > place they appear. > > - Interface strings demand maximum clarity in minimum characters. > Additionally in testing - you can change them to improve the layout of the > windows, menus, etc. Plus you need to check keyboard shortcuts. > > - With schema messages you translate to explain things, so you can really > write sentences and paragraphs to be sure that the user understands the > gconf key meaning. > > - Console messages have demands on their own. On the one hand they can be > reformatted to fit the most usual terminal size (for example width of 80 > chars). On the other hand a team can decide to use a more limited > character set for console messages (for example the whole range of UTF-8 > characters for interface, limited subset known to work in terminals, or > fitting popular for the locale 8bit charsets). Well, sometimes it's impossible to fit your translation in 80 characters, especially when the original message is already quite long. But never mind. > So explaining the different types of messages has *strong* benefits for > teams that intend to translate the strings. The messages are not being > singled out for negligence. Providing the type will improve the > translation and review. Please note that I am using the term "console > messages" - those that appear on the command line. I do not think the term > "error message" used in the discussion thus far had a clear enough > definition - I do think people wrote about different issues. Perhaps this could be included in the translation software, I don't think it's difficult to create a plugin for gtranslator which marks certain strings in a different way (colors, whatever...); however I'm not a hacker myself. Regards. -- Jorge González González Weblog: http://aloriel.no-ip.org Fotolog: http://www.flickr.com/photos/aloriel ___ gnome-i18n mailing list gnome-i18n@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-i18n
Re: Translating schema files (was: Re: Survey results (yay!))
> But how would you reliably distinguish between error messages and > non-error messages? I'm not convinced that this can be done without > requiring unreasonable work from programmers. I guess we should distinguish between two kind of errors: * Errors from the application, which should be translated and the user will, for sure, see * Internal errors, usually shown at the command line, which the user *may* see, but which are the ones I mentioned that when you search for them in other languages, rather than English, you can't find info. And I guess the hackers know perfectly which are both of them. Best regards. > Ask -- Jorge González González Weblog: http://aloriel.no-ip.org Fotolog: http://www.flickr.com/photos/aloriel ___ gnome-i18n mailing list gnome-i18n@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-i18n
Re: Translating schema files (was: Re: Survey results (yay!))
El lun, 01-11-2010 a las 19:29 +0200, Ihar Hrachyshka escribió: > You're wrong when speaking about "normal user". Normal user: > 1) either use Google or NOT for searching problem solutions; > 2) should be able to fix the problem with no external help (google, > friends, tech support). If not, then the software is wrong, the error > messages are wrong, but the errors localisation is ok. Well, obviously we don't deal with the same "normal users". > > So though I'm for separating schema messages, I'm against separating > errors from UI messages. I'm against separating them since it will include more files to push and handle, but I'm against translating them at all. > Ihar -- Jorge González González Weblog: http://aloriel.no-ip.org Fotolog: http://www.flickr.com/photos/aloriel ___ gnome-i18n mailing list gnome-i18n@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-i18n
Re: Translating schema files (was: Re: Survey results (yay!))
> There's no automatic way to split errors from the GUI strings, so > it'll be a huge amount of work for programmers (and require sustained > maintenance work), while the benefit to translators is not significant > IMHO. But I'd really like to see all the useless schema strings > separated out. IMHO error and schema strings should not be translated. Whenever I try to find help in Spanish when a software crashes, I usually get few or null feedback from the error in Spanish (in my case), but tones of pages and websites when I paste the same error in English into Google. And the normal user will never search for those errors, only advanced users, so I guess we're not helping them much translating error and schema messages. Besides, I bet there are hundreds of strings in GNOME that the final user will NEVER, ever see. Best regards. -- Jorge González González Weblog: http://aloriel.no-ip.org Fotolog: http://www.flickr.com/photos/aloriel ___ gnome-i18n mailing list gnome-i18n@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-i18n
Re: xml errors in documentation
El mié, 20-10-2010 a las 00:36 +0200, Ask Hjorth Larsen escribió: > Hi language team coordinators > > (Sorry for writing to the i18n list, but I think this is the easiest > way to reach every language - the alternative being making lots of bug > reports) > > This is a breakdown of every xml error in every translated > documentation string in GNOME for those languages that have reasonable > (> around 10%) coverage of the documentation. More precisely, every > message where the English string is valid xml, but the translation is > not. You may want to fix them as this probably means the messages are > not displayed correctly in the help documents. Thanks a lot, "es" fixed. However most of the errors came from epiphany, where I replaced ... with … apparently xml doesn't like it. Cheers. -- Jorge González González Weblog: http://aloriel.no-ip.org Fotolog: http://www.flickr.com/photos/aloriel ___ gnome-i18n mailing list gnome-i18n@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-i18n
Re: xml errors in documentation
El mié, 20-10-2010 a las 02:23 +0200, Andre Klapper escribió: > > The xml checks were performed with the utility gtxml from pyg3t (in > > case you want to run your own xml checks subsequently): > > https://launchpad.net/pyg3t > > Naive idea: Could something similar could run on l10n.gnome.org and > display an error on the website (or already when uploading it)? Yeap, that would be awesome. > > andre -- Jorge González González Weblog: http://aloriel.no-ip.org Fotolog: http://www.flickr.com/photos/aloriel ___ gnome-i18n mailing list gnome-i18n@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-i18n
Re: Transifex instance for GNOME
> I was about to say some thing along these lines, but you summarised it > better than what I would have done. I just want to added that every time > I use Transifex I find its UI very confusing and things that can be > simply achieved with damned-lies are either impossible or done in a very > convoluted way. I fail to say what features Transifex offers that we > need; we neither need the complex multi-project multi-team > multi-workflow setup nor the near useless online translation tool (if we > ever need one, then IMHO only Pootle is worthy consideration currently). I agree with most of what has been written before, but I'd like to make a call to see what functionalities do we miss in l10n: * commiting files from the web interface * sycn between projects not hosted in git.gnome.org What else? Claude already said that the first point was already being discussed. Could you please refresh my mind about other points? Thanks. -- Jorge González González Weblog: http://aloriel.no-ip.org Fotolog: http://www.flickr.com/photos/aloriel ___ gnome-i18n mailing list gnome-i18n@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-i18n
Re: GNOME 2.32 Release Notes
Hi again, Am Donnerstag, den 23.09.2010, 20:11 -0500 schrieb Paul Cutler: > Hi localization teams! > > > In the better late than never category, the Release Notes are now > ready for translation. They are in the release-notes repo in the > gnome-2-32 branch. > > > I sincerely apologize for the delay in getting these ready for you. The following string has several typos: SyncTeX support has been added to Evince. SyncTex is a method that enables synchronization between a TeX source file and the resulting PDF (or DVI) output. SyncTex support has been added to Evince and as a new plug-in for gedit. Backward Search, from Evince to gedit, and Forward Search, from Gedit to Evince, are both supported. * SyncTeX or SyncTex, but not both. * The second sentence is repeated, half the same as the first one, doesn't make sense. * gedit or Gedit, but not both. Cheers. -- Jorge González González Weblog: http://aloriel.no-ip.org Fotolog: http://www.flickr.com/photos/aloriel ___ gnome-i18n mailing list gnome-i18n@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-i18n
Re: GNOME 2.32 Release Notes
Hi, Am Donnerstag, den 23.09.2010, 20:11 -0500 schrieb Paul Cutler: > Hi localization teams! > > > In the better late than never category, the Release Notes are now > ready for translation. They are in the release-notes repo in the > gnome-2-32 branch. > > > I sincerely apologize for the delay in getting these ready for you. > > > Please let me know if you have any questions. GNOME 3.0 will continue to provide the desktop platform and applications it always has, and will also feature a new user interface in GNOME Shell and the GNOME Activity Journal which easily helps you browse and find files on your computer. GNOME 3.0 also will include new features in accessibility, new user help and documentation, GNOME's first web service in Tomboy Online and more. For developers, GNOME 2.30 deprecates a number of old libraries. Is the last "GNOME 2.30" a typo? I guess it should be GNOME 2.32, isn't it? Cheers. -- Jorge González González Weblog: http://aloriel.no-ip.org Fotolog: http://www.flickr.com/photos/aloriel ___ gnome-i18n mailing list gnome-i18n@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-i18n
Re: String additions to 'anjuta.master'
Am Dienstag, den 21.09.2010, 18:58 -0300 schrieb Jonh Wendell: > Yes, it was easy, but unfortunately nobody saw that before. > > Anyway, if nobody wouldn't noticed it, the program would be shipped with > some parts in English, and it couldn't be translated at all. Now we have > at least the opportunity of translating it 100%. Anyway I thought we were trying to get rid of messages containing formatting tags (, , etc). Weren't we? Cheers. -- Jorge González González Weblog: http://aloriel.no-ip.org Fotolog: http://www.flickr.com/photos/aloriel ___ gnome-i18n mailing list gnome-i18n@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-i18n
Re: Getting to know each other!
Am Sonntag, den 08.08.2010, 17:13 +0200 schrieb Gil Forcada: > El dj 05 de 08 de 2010 a les 19:47 +0200, en/na Petr Kovar va escriure: > > Hi! > > > > Gil Forcada , Wed, 04 Aug 2010 23:01:13 +0200: > > > > > First we have to have the questions defined :) Though it would be useful > > > to know the target audience of this survey, but coordinators would be > > > the first ones to get the survey. > > > > Yes, we can then surely edit the survey questions as necessary. Thank > > you Gil for your work, I've just added some new bits to the survey. > > > > Hopefully we can conduct the survey soon. > > > Thanks for adding more bits. I have already added some more. > > Thinking about doing it soon maybe it would be a good idea to do it 2 > weeks before the string freeze (August 30th [1]) so it means that next > week we should sent it to coordinators and expect them to reply within > these two weeks before the August 30th. > > What do you think about it? +1 as well. Sorry for being idle in this thread, but I'm half on vacation. -- Jorge González González Weblog: http://aloriel.no-ip.org Fotolog: http://www.flickr.com/photos/aloriel ___ gnome-i18n mailing list gnome-i18n@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-i18n
Re: 2010 Q2 GNOME Quarterly Report
Hi Again Petr, Am Dienstag, den 13.07.2010, 00:45 +0200 schrieb Petr Kovar: > Hi Jorge! > > Jorge González González , Tue, 13 Jul 2010 00:12:24 > +0200: > > (...) > > > > For string freeze break requests during the GNOME Desktop > development > > > cycle, developers now always need two approvals from the > Coordination > > > Team. The Coordination Team that now consists of 11 members will > also > > > seek ways to improve the responsiveness about requests. > > Typo: [...] developers now always need [...] > > Thanks, but as I seem to be completely blind this late at night, what > exactly is wrong with that fragment you quote? Mmm, now that you doubt it makes me doubt as well, however "now always" didn't sound, at first, very good to me. Any native speaker? Cheers. -- Jorge González González Weblog: http://aloriel.no-ip.org Fotolog: http://www.flickr.com/photos/aloriel ___ gnome-i18n mailing list gnome-i18n@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-i18n
Re: 2010 Q2 GNOME Quarterly Report
Am Dienstag, den 13.07.2010, 08:24 +0200 schrieb Johannes Schmid: > > Yes, why not... On the other hand, from the translator's > perspective, it > > seems like the best and most favorable situation would be if no docs > > rewriting, especially late in the cycle, as it might be the case, > would > > happen at all. :-) > > With my maintainer head on: After string freeze is the best time for > developers to update the documentation as there isn't much else to do. > It's not nice for translators, but it's the way things work. I plan to > make heavy changes in the Anjuta documentation so you have been > warned. Yeap, not nice. However I still think there should be one week for doc-string-freeze, so we could have time to translate, at least, part of it. Anyway, I guess that's another battle. Cheers. -- Jorge González González Weblog: http://aloriel.no-ip.org Fotolog: http://www.flickr.com/photos/aloriel ___ gnome-i18n mailing list gnome-i18n@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-i18n
Re: 2010 Q2 GNOME Quarterly Report
Hi all, Am Montag, den 12.07.2010, 23:58 +0200 schrieb Petr Kovar: > Hi all, > > It's July, so I was asked by Stormy Peters to compose a GNOME Localization > Update to be included in the 2010 Q2 GNOME Quarterly Report. The deadline > is Friday July 16. Please see below what I've made up so far and please be > sure that your feedback regarding both the content and form is more than > welcome. > > Thanks! > > Best, > Petr Kovar > > --- > > Localization > > Various localization teams that are part of the GNOME Translation Project > continued with focusing their localization effort on stable GNOME 2.30.1 > and 2.30.2 releases which were released on April 28 and June 23, > respectively. Localization teams will proceed further with working on > localization for the upcoming GNOME 3 release. > > GNOME translation community that gather together on the gnome-i18n mailing > list discussed and conducted common translation project administrivia, > including assistance in changing coordinators in several localization > teams, the most notable case being the Slovak translation team, in which > several translators expressed their discontent with the current way of > coordination. The issue was thoroughly discussed within the Coordination > Team in order to mediate the dispute and was settled down in the beginning > of July when the current Slovak coordinator announced his resignation. > > Among other things discussed was the legal issue of whether translators who > are not legal experts should translate legal notices or license texts that > usually come with the free software distribution. This topic was further > discussed on the GNOME legal-list with Luis Villa. > > Also, there was a change done in the structure of the GNOME Translation > Project coordination. Previously, the project was formally led by two > Spokes Persons who were also senior members of the extended Coordination > Team. Now, the Spokes Person status has been obsoleted in favor of a > larger Coordination Team. > > For string freeze break requests during the GNOME Desktop development cycle, > developers now always need two approvals from the Coordination Team. The > Coordination Team that now consists of 11 members will also seek ways to > improve the responsiveness about requests. Typo: [...] developers now always need [...] > > One of the important tasks that the GNOME Translation Project intends to > accomplish during Q3 is completing the implementation of Git commit support > through the infrastructure running on l10n.gnome.org. Nice text. Perhaps it'd be nice to add some info about the wishes of having most documentation ported to mallard. Cheers! -- Jorge González González Weblog: http://aloriel.no-ip.org Fotolog: http://www.flickr.com/photos/aloriel ___ gnome-i18n mailing list gnome-i18n@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-i18n
xkeyboard-config 1.9 available
Hi everyone, I noticed xkeyboard-config 1.9 is already out, so it will be nice to update DL with the new pos from it. Thanks and cheers. -- Jorge González González Weblog: http://aloriel.no-ip.org Fotolog: http://www.flickr.com/photos/aloriel ___ gnome-i18n mailing list gnome-i18n@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-i18n
Re: Birthday and aniversary
Hi, El jue, 03-06-2010 a las 09:52 +0200, Jean Cayron escribió: > Tirumurti and Funda, > > Thanks for you answer but in the context it doesn't make sense. In > KAdressBook and in Evolution's Contacts for a particular contact (a > person) you have two dates you can fill: "birthday" and "anniversary". > It's not for an event. There's is no different types of anniversary. I > can translate it with two different words "Date di skepiaedje" and > "Aniviersaire" but as a user, I don't know which one (or both) to fill > in. It's why I was inquiring if in a particular language there was a > difference between these two concepts APPLIED TO A PERSON, not an > event. well, it looks like it makes sense in English, and I can tell it also makes perfect sense in Spanish. I'm pretty sure there are many other languages in which it makes sense as well. Cheers. -- Jorge González González Weblog: http://aloriel.no-ip.org Fotolog: http://www.flickr.com/photos/aloriel ___ gnome-i18n mailing list gnome-i18n@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-i18n
Re: Do "enabled", "disabled", and "not found" need to be qualified per instance?
El sáb, 15-05-2010 a las 22:56 +0200, Petr Kovar escribió:
> Hi!
>
> Joanmarie Diggs , Sat, 15 May 2010 15:18:41
> -0400:
>
> > Hey all.
> >
> > Silly question: Do "enabled", "disabled", and "not found" need to be
> > qualified per instance?
> >
> > More context: Orca speaks and brailles various confirmation messages
> > when the user changes a setting on the fly or executes certain commands.
> > Examples:
> >
> > User: enables/disables speech temporarily
> > Orca: "speech {enabled,disabled}
> >
> > User: enables/disables indentation and justification info temporarily
> > Orca: "Speaking of indentation and justification {enabled,disabled}
> >
> > User: Attempts to move to the next heading, but there isn't a next one
> > Orca: "No more headings found"
> >
> > User: Attempts to move to the next list, but there isn't a next one
> > Orca: "No more lists found"
> >
> > Etc., etc.
> >
> > Some users like a lot of detail. But for experienced users and/or users
> > with really small braille displays, some of these strings are
> > unnecessarily long. Therefore, we're going to start providing optional,
> > brief messages.
> >
> > User: enables/disables whatever by giving the command to do so
> > Orca: "{enabled,disabled}"
> >
> > User: Attempts to move to the next whatever, but there isn't a next one
> > Orca: "not found"
> >
> > Will the translation of "enabled", "disabled", and "not found" vary in
> > some languages depending on what was enabled, disabled, or not found?
>
> Absolutely, since there exists something we call grammatical gender in many
> many languages:
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grammatical_gender
>
> However, as long as those adjectives like "enabled" or "disabled" aren't
> incorporated into a sentence or sentence fragment, but are placed in a
> string of their own, it's often the case in i18n not to qualify per
> instance and respect various gender and declension forms, but to use
> a "general, one-gender, one-case" term that refers to all strings with the
> appropriate meaning. (In my West Slavic language [Czech], we often make use
> of the neuter gender singular nominative case for that purpose.)
> Nevertheless, I wouldn't count that in best i18n/l10n practices, really.
>
> In the end, a context is what counts the most for translators. Also, I
> think that Orca is the excellent example of providing a good portion of
> useful context information to their translators, so thanks for that.
I would'n have said better, that's +1 for Spanish.
>
> > Apologies for being a stereotypical, monolingual American. And thanks in
> > advance for your help!
>
> Thanks for keeping i18n in mind. It's highly appreciated!
>
> Regards,
Cheers.
> Petr Kovar
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Cathedral, bazaar models and DL
Hi all, as a consequence of the Slovak GTP status, I also asked my team whether they are happy with our model and so on. Looks like we will probably try a bazaar like model, and I would like to know how the rest of the teams are modelled. In any case, in DL only one person can reserve a module. May this be a problem? Besides, I'd like to ask, if someone sends a comment over a module without having reserved the module first, does DL send an email to the team? Thank you very much. Cheers. -- Jorge González González Weblog: http://aloriel.no-ip.org Fotolog: http://www.flickr.com/photos/aloriel ___ gnome-i18n mailing list gnome-i18n@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-i18n
Re: Complaint of the Slovak coordinator
El jue, 13-05-2010 a las 19:46 +0300, Tomas Kuliavas escribió: > 2010.05.13 19:34 Marcel Telka rašė: > > On Thu, May 13, 2010 at 05:33:09PM +0200, Johannes Schmid wrote: > >> Of course translation quality might be poor in the beginning but > > > > Yes. This is the reason why we are doing reviews. > > > >> everybody was a newcomer first. Usually it's good to setup some kind of > >> rules for consistent translations were people can stick to. > > > > I agree. Now, we are in process to have such rules set up. > > > >> > >> * Long-term vision: You will almost never find someone who will clearly > > > > Sorry, this was misinterpreted. The rule is that a potential translator > > for a module should say: Ok, I'll maintain this module. Once his > > interest for the module is lost he can easily say: Ok, I'll no longer > > maintain this translation, it is free for someone else. There is no > > requirement to became a translator for several years. > > > > The assigned translator have several pros: > > - the translation will be easily maintained self consistent > > - when a bug is filled it is easy to realize who is the proper person to > > whom the bug should be assigned > > You want to run your translation in cathedral style, but you don't have > enough resources for that. Bazaar wins against cathedral in long term. > Initial bazaar translation quality is worse, but it improves over time and > allows larger number of contributors. Your single translation quality > might be better, but when translation team success depends on your free > time, you and your translation team lose. Despite that the Spanish Translation Team is quite alike Slovak in structure (basically because we do not have many translators/experienced ones), I must say that I do not see many improvements in bazaar like model (Launchpad, in fact). Most of the bugs opened against our translations are LP bugs, not ours. However having only one commiter is a bottleneck. > Your team loses like X11 lost n years ago. > -- Jorge González González Weblog: http://aloriel.no-ip.org Fotolog: http://www.flickr.com/photos/aloriel ___ gnome-i18n mailing list gnome-i18n@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-i18n
Re: Please list Rygel on l10n.gnome.org
El lun, 19-04-2010 a las 21:21 +0200, Jorge González González escribió: > Hi, > > El lun, 19-04-2010 a las 20:56 +0200, Claude Paroz escribió: > > Le lundi 19 avril 2010 à 16:12 +0200, Andre Klapper a écrit : > > > Please list Rygel on l10n.gnome.org. > > > > > > > http://l10n.gnome.org/module/rygel/ > mmmh, I belive there is something wrong, not very important though, but > the name of the po file, for any language, has the suffix *po* twice, > check it: > > http://l10n.gnome.org/module/po/rygel.po.master.es.po > > Besides, after adding es.po to the po directory it says there is an > error with intltool-update -m. > > My bad perhaps? Sorry for the noise, my mistake. It took some time to DL to update it. Works fine, all of it. -- Jorge González González Weblog: http://aloriel.no-ip.org Fotolog: http://www.flickr.com/photos/aloriel ___ gnome-i18n mailing list gnome-i18n@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-i18n
Re: Please list Rygel on l10n.gnome.org
Hi, El lun, 19-04-2010 a las 20:56 +0200, Claude Paroz escribió: > Le lundi 19 avril 2010 à 16:12 +0200, Andre Klapper a écrit : > > Please list Rygel on l10n.gnome.org. > > > > http://l10n.gnome.org/module/rygel/ mmmh, I belive there is something wrong, not very important though, but the name of the po file, for any language, has the suffix *po* twice, check it: http://l10n.gnome.org/module/po/rygel.po.master.es.po Besides, after adding es.po to the po directory it says there is an error with intltool-update -m. My bad perhaps? Cheers. > > Claude > > > Forwarded Message > > > From: Zeeshan Ali (Khattak) > > > To: desktop-devel-l...@gnome.org > > > Subject: Re: Module Proposal: Rygel > > > Date: Mon, 19 Apr 2010 16:48:54 +0300 > > > > > > Just to inform the interested people that Rygel in git master now > > > has the translation framework fixed and I've marked all strings (that > > > could ever be seen by user) for translation. > > > > > _______ > gnome-i18n mailing list > gnome-i18n@gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-i18n -- Jorge González González Weblog: http://aloriel.no-ip.org Fotolog: http://www.flickr.com/photos/aloriel ___ gnome-i18n mailing list gnome-i18n@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-i18n
Re: Evolution - Strings starting with "Next" or "Back"
El dom, 28-03-2010 a las 19:35 -0300, Rodrigo Flores escribió: > Hi > > > I'm translating Evolution and I saw many strings starting with Back or > Next (followed by a '-' and something) , and I did not understand the > meaning of this 'Back' or 'Next' in this phrases. Any ideas? > > > E.g. "Back - Receiving mail", "Next - Review account" It's part of an assistant, a wizzard, so those are to step back and forward while configuring the email account. However, if I remember well, those strings are mostly already translated, but without the "next" and "back" phrases, so I don't really get why we have them twice. Hope it helps. Cheers. -- Jorge González González Weblog: http://aloriel.no-ip.org Fotolog: http://www.flickr.com/photos/aloriel ___ gnome-i18n mailing list gnome-i18n@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-i18n
Re: 2.30 Release Notes
Hi, El mié, 24-03-2010 a las 12:02 -0500, Paul Cutler escribió: > The 2.30 release notes are almost ready for translation. I've sent them > out for review, so there may be some minor changes in the next 24-48 > hours, but for the most part they're ready to be translated. > > Other than these edits, the only outstanding task is to commit the 2.30 > Desktop screenshot. > > You can check them out from GNOME git in the release-notes module in the > 2.30 branch. > > There are a number of strings that didn't change from 2.28, so I did not > remove po files / translations from 2.28 (not sure if I should or > shouldn't). > > If you have any questions about the release notes, please let me know. there is a broken image: http://git.gnome.org/browse/release-notes/plain/help/C/figures/gnome-2.30.png?h=gnome-2-30 are you planning to upload a picture or will it be removed? Thanks and cheers. -- Jorge González González Weblog: http://aloriel.no-ip.org Fotolog: http://www.flickr.com/photos/aloriel ___ gnome-i18n mailing list gnome-i18n@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-i18n
Re: 2.30 Release Notes
Hi Matej, El jue, 25-03-2010 a las 08:18 +0100, Matej Urban escribió: > I can not figure it out. > How do I translate the release notes? checkout the release-notes package and work on the gnome-2-30 branch. Cheers! > > M! > > On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 10:05 PM, Frederic Peters wrote: > > Paul Cutler wrote: > > > >> The 2.30 release notes are almost ready for translation. I've sent them > >> out for review, so there may be some minor changes in the next 24-48 > >> hours, but for the most part they're ready to be translated. > > > > And if you want to check how your translations went live, the release > > notes are already published on > > http://library.gnome.org/misc/release-notes/2.30/ > > > > (username is gnome, password is 2.28) > > > > > > Cheers, > >Frederic > > > > ___ > > gnome-i18n mailing list > > gnome-i18n@gnome.org > > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-i18n > > > _______ > gnome-i18n mailing list > gnome-i18n@gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-i18n -- Jorge González González Weblog: http://aloriel.no-ip.org Fotolog: http://www.flickr.com/photos/aloriel ___ gnome-i18n mailing list gnome-i18n@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-i18n
Re: Is rosseta F**ing GNOME git?
El mié, 17-03-2010 a las 19:36 +0100, Olav Vitters escribió: > On Wed, Mar 17, 2010 at 07:27:51PM +0100, Jorge González González wrote: > > El mié, 17-03-2010 a las 19:17 +0100, dooteo escribió: > > > Hi Olav, > > > > > > Module was 'Contacts'. You can see 3 PO files (ar.po, eu.po and id.po) > > > uploaded in the same log. See [1] > > looks like Spanish translation was also at some point imported, since I > > didn't translate it and it didn't follow our style guide. > > Contacts wasn't always in GNOME git. Could've been uploaded while it > wasn't on git.gnome.org. Perhaps when adding to damned-lies a more clear > notification should go out to check existing translations? Yeap, might be when it was imported. And yes, a notification would be very nice. > The person uploading it is one of the maintainers of the module. > Friendly reminder that it is now part of GNOME git should be enough. Cheers. -- Jorge González González Weblog: http://aloriel.no-ip.org Fotolog: http://www.flickr.com/photos/aloriel ___ gnome-i18n mailing list gnome-i18n@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-i18n
Re: Is rosseta F**ing GNOME git?
Hi, El mié, 17-03-2010 a las 19:17 +0100, dooteo escribió: > Hi Olav, > > Module was 'Contacts'. You can see 3 PO files (ar.po, eu.po and id.po) > uploaded in the same log. See [1] looks like Spanish translation was also at some point imported, since I didn't translate it and it didn't follow our style guide. > Best regards, Cheers. > > Dooteo > > [1] > http://git.gnome.org/browse/contacts/commit/?id=0326ef02137e266a8533364ba4d3ae6f331ec3fa > > Jatorrizko mezua: az., 2010-03-17 18:06 +0100, egilea: Olav Vitters > > On Wed, Mar 17, 2010 at 05:27:06PM +0100, dooteo wrote: > > > As suggested by you, I found the log (git.gnome.org/cgit) where that PO > > > was uploaded, and wrote a message to him. > > > > Which module does/did this concern? > > > > ___ > gnome-i18n mailing list > gnome-i18n@gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-i18n -- Jorge González González Weblog: http://aloriel.no-ip.org Fotolog: http://www.flickr.com/photos/aloriel ___ gnome-i18n mailing list gnome-i18n@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-i18n
Re: Is xkeyboard-config updating its stats?
El mar, 09-03-2010 a las 21:44 +0100, Claude Paroz escribió: > Le mardi 09 mars 2010 à 20:47 +0100, Jorge González González a écrit : > > Hi, > > > > long ago I sent an update of xkeyboard-config to the translation project > > [1], it was accepted and updated, but l10n seems to still have an old > > copy [2]. > > > > Is it updating the stats and/or getting the file from translationproject > > correctly? > > > > [1] http://translationproject.org/PO-files/es/xkeyboard-config-1.8.es.po > > [2] > > http://l10n.gnome.org/POT/xkeyboard-config.master/xkeyboard-config.master.es.po > > > > Many thanks. Cheers. > > Jorge, > > l10n.gnome.org does not pick the file from the TP, but from the module > main repository. That is why you may encounter a delay between TP > submission and stats update. > > You can always use the "Browse" link just after the branch name on the > module page, and look for the es.po file in the module repository to see > if your file has been committed. > > If when you say "long ago", you mean "2010-02-21", don't worry, it's not > long at all at the TP scale :-P Ok, got it. Many thanks Claude! > > Claude > > ___ > gnome-i18n mailing list > gnome-i18n@gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-i18n -- Jorge González González Weblog: http://aloriel.no-ip.org Fotolog: http://www.flickr.com/photos/aloriel ___ gnome-i18n mailing list gnome-i18n@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-i18n
Is xkeyboard-config updating its stats?
Hi, long ago I sent an update of xkeyboard-config to the translation project [1], it was accepted and updated, but l10n seems to still have an old copy [2]. Is it updating the stats and/or getting the file from translationproject correctly? [1] http://translationproject.org/PO-files/es/xkeyboard-config-1.8.es.po [2] http://l10n.gnome.org/POT/xkeyboard-config.master/xkeyboard-config.master.es.po Many thanks. Cheers. -- Jorge González González Weblog: http://aloriel.no-ip.org Fotolog: http://www.flickr.com/photos/aloriel ___ gnome-i18n mailing list gnome-i18n@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-i18n
Re: GParted 0.5.2 to be Released Mar. 8, 2010
Hi, El lun, 01-03-2010 a las 14:18 -0700, Curtis Gedak escribió: > Hello Translation Teams, > > GParted version 0.5.2 is planned for release on Monday, March 8, 2010. > > All language translations completed prior to this date will be included > in this release. If you could pospone the date a week or so, I think I might be able to get the documentation done, because this week I'm going to CeBIT and I won't be able to advance a lot with it. Otherwise I cannot confirm I'll have the doc translation ready. > > Thank you for your language translation efforts. > > Sincerely, > Curtis Gedak > (Maintainer of GParted) Thanks Curtis, cheers. -- Jorge González González Weblog: http://aloriel.no-ip.org Fotolog: http://www.flickr.com/photos/aloriel ___ gnome-i18n mailing list gnome-i18n@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-i18n
Re: Translating shared-mime-info
El lun, 01-03-2010 a las 22:23 +0100, Petr Kovar escribió: > Hi! > > Jorge González González , Mon, 01 Mar 2010 22:05:02 > +0100: > > > Hi, > > > > since shared-mime-info has moved to transifex I'm unable to translate > > it. I already registered an account at transifex and followed a > > tutorial, but I can't see the translating button nor where to send > > offline translations. Any other team or translator is having the same > > issue? > > The maintainer has to give you permissions to be able to upload any > translation, so make sure you clicked the right button (or what it is) at > the top of the page on: > > http://www.transifex.net/projects/p/shared-mime-info/c/default/ > > We had a discussion about Tx.net and said permissions recently on this list, > by the way. :-) Looks like I missed it, sorry for the inconvenience. > > > Looks like the mantainer is Bastien Nocera, I already sent an email to > > him but he didn't answer so far. > > Once you requested the permission, you'll have to wait several > minutes/hours/days to get it processed (manually), I guess. :-) > > Hope that helps, > Petr Kovar Thanks, sure it helped! -- Jorge González González Weblog: http://aloriel.no-ip.org Fotolog: http://www.flickr.com/photos/aloriel ___ gnome-i18n mailing list gnome-i18n@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-i18n
Re: Translating shared-mime-info
El lun, 01-03-2010 a las 23:25 +0200, Dimitris Glezos escribió: > 2010/3/1 Jorge González González : > > since shared-mime-info has moved to transifex I'm unable to translate > > it. I already registered an account at transifex and followed a > > tutorial, but I can't see the translating button nor where to send > > offline translations. Any other team or translator is having the same > > issue? > > Hi Jorge. > > You may request access to shared-mime-info from the following page: > > http://www.transifex.net/projects/p/shared-mime-info/access/pm/add/ > > You may also request to create a special translation team at: > > http://www.transifex.net/projects/p/shared-mime-info/teams/ > > The maintainer will be notified by email right away and he'll approve you. > > -d Done, thank you very much! -- Jorge González González Weblog: http://aloriel.no-ip.org Fotolog: http://www.flickr.com/photos/aloriel ___ gnome-i18n mailing list gnome-i18n@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-i18n
Translating shared-mime-info
Hi, since shared-mime-info has moved to transifex I'm unable to translate it. I already registered an account at transifex and followed a tutorial, but I can't see the translating button nor where to send offline translations. Any other team or translator is having the same issue? Looks like the mantainer is Bastien Nocera, I already sent an email to him but he didn't answer so far. Cheers, and thanks in advance. -- Jorge González González Weblog: http://aloriel.no-ip.org Fotolog: http://www.flickr.com/photos/aloriel ___ gnome-i18n mailing list gnome-i18n@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-i18n
Re: Module reorganisation
El lun, 01-03-2010 a las 09:11 +0100, Matej Urbančič escribió: > Hello, > > I'd like to propose a small reorganisation of module groups. I'd like > to see all gimp modules grouped in it's own "release", like gnome > office is and not under gnome-extra. First reason is, that it is one > big project and second one is easier overview. > > What do you think? Is it doable without much hassle? +1 from me. It'd be nice to have a "package" with all of them. -- Jorge González González Weblog: http://aloriel.no-ip.org Fotolog: http://www.flickr.com/photos/aloriel ___ gnome-i18n mailing list gnome-i18n@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-i18n
Re: More string changes in gedit
Hi, El sáb, 20-02-2010 a las 10:47 +, Philip Withnall escribió: > Hi all, > > I've just committed the last batch of string changes to gedit for this > cycle (as part of bgo#610048). Although there are two patches left on > that bug, they won't be applied this cycle. > > The changes are, again, fairly minor, and shouldn't result in much extra > work. Well, almost 50 strings is quite a lot of work. Nevermind, the string "Log Out _without Saving" suggests me that the GNOME (KDE, whatever) session is being closed, is this right? or the action is just about closing gedit? Thanks & cheers. -- Jorge González González Weblog: http://aloriel.no-ip.org Fotolog: http://www.flickr.com/photos/aloriel ___ gnome-i18n mailing list gnome-i18n@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-i18n
Re: Module gtksourceview not updating?
El mar, 29-12-2009 a las 20:46 +0100, Claude Paroz escribió: > Le mardi 29 décembre 2009 à 18:18 +0000, Jorge González González a > écrit : > > Hi, > > > > I've been updating gtksource view for quite a long time, but since > > several weeks its status is the same, 5 strings fuzzy plus 2 > > untranslated, I keep updating the same file but the stats wont change, > > anything wrong? > > Yes, something wrong :-) This particular module was locked (probably a > bad manipulation on my side). > Should be working again now. Thanks Claude, it's working. -- Jorge González González Weblog: http://aloriel.no-ip.org Fotolog: http://www.flickr.com/photos/aloriel ___ gnome-i18n mailing list gnome-i18n@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-i18n
Module gtksourceview not updating?
Hi, I've been updating gtksource view for quite a long time, but since several weeks its status is the same, 5 strings fuzzy plus 2 untranslated, I keep updating the same file but the stats wont change, anything wrong? Thanks. -- Jorge González González Weblog: http://aloriel.no-ip.org Fotolog: http://www.flickr.com/photos/aloriel ___ gnome-i18n mailing list gnome-i18n@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-i18n
git.gnome.org down?
Hi, I've been trying to get updates from git.gnome.org today since 12 or so and looks like I can't connect. I just want to ask if it's really down or not, since I'm getting connection troubles from time to time. Cheers and thanks. -- Jorge González González Weblog: http://aloriel.no-ip.org Fotolog: http://www.flickr.com/photos/aloriel ___ gnome-i18n mailing list gnome-i18n@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-i18n
Re: Brasero 2.28 series would require new strings
El lun, 19-10-2009 a las 20:51 +0200, Philippe Rouquier escribió: > I thought so too =). So I just released 2.28.2 (brasero had one bug > fix release in advance compared to GNOME schedule) and committed the > patch right afterwards, so brave translators can start tonight if they > want. Done! Cheers. > Philippe -- Jorge González González Weblog: http://aloriel.no-ip.org Fotolog: http://www.flickr.com/photos/aloriel ___ gnome-i18n mailing list gnome-i18n@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-i18n
Re: New module for GNOME 2.28?
Hi, El mar, 29-09-2009 a las 23:39 +0200, Claude Paroz escribió: > Le mardi 29 septembre 2009 à 23:31 +0200, Jorge González González a > écrit : > > Hi, > > > > I just saw a new module at GNOME 2.28 branch: > > GNOME 2 Development Documentation • Optimization Guide > > what is this module? is this a new module for the release? shouldn't > > have been approved before? > > It is not a new module. It is simply a new document in the > gnome-devel-docs module. The document itself is not new (already shipped > at least in 2.26), but is newly setup for translation. > http://library.gnome.org/devel/optimization-guide/stable/ > > Sorry for your stats ;-) Oh, ok, some more work :o) > Cheers, Cheers and thanks. -- Jorge González González Weblog: http://aloriel.no-ip.org Fotolog: http://www.flickr.com/photos/aloriel ___ gnome-i18n mailing list gnome-i18n@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-i18n
New module for GNOME 2.28?
Hi, I just saw a new module at GNOME 2.28 branch: GNOME 2 Development Documentation • Optimization Guide what is this module? is this a new module for the release? shouldn't have been approved before? Thanks and cheers. -- Jorge González González Weblog: http://aloriel.no-ip.org Fotolog: http://www.flickr.com/photos/aloriel ___ gnome-i18n mailing list gnome-i18n@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-i18n
Re: Update Spanish team URL
El dom, 20-09-2009 a las 22:10 +0200, Claude Paroz escribió: > Le dimanche 20 septembre 2009 à 17:21 +0200, Jorge González González a > écrit : > > Hi, > > > > we have updated the info web for Spanish team, please update: > > http://l10n.gnome.org/languages/es/ > > > > removing: > > http://www.es.gnome.org/Documentacion/Guias/TraduccionDeAplicaciones > > > > and using: > > http://es.gnome.org/Documentacion/Traductores > > > > Thank you very much. > > Done. Thanks Claude. > > Claude > -- Jorge González González Weblog: http://aloriel.no-ip.org Fotolog: http://www.flickr.com/photos/aloriel ___ gnome-i18n mailing list gnome-i18n@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-i18n
Update Spanish team URL
Hi, we have updated the info web for Spanish team, please update: http://l10n.gnome.org/languages/es/ removing: http://www.es.gnome.org/Documentacion/Guias/TraduccionDeAplicaciones and using: http://es.gnome.org/Documentacion/Traductores Thank you very much. -- Jorge González González Weblog: http://aloriel.no-ip.org Fotolog: http://www.flickr.com/photos/aloriel ___ gnome-i18n mailing list gnome-i18n@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-i18n
Re: Release-notes translation
El dom, 13-09-2009 a las 13:38 +0200, Frederic Peters escribió: > Jorge González González wrote: > > > El vie, 11-09-2009 a las 14:38 +0200, Claude Paroz escribió: > > > Hi, > > > > > > I've just been informed by Paul Cutler, our release-notes hero for GNOME > > > 2.28 that the Release Notes are now final. > > > Go, go and translate... > > what about the screenshots? when will they be ready so we can upload our > > own ones? > > Andreas Nilsson should be working on screenshots today, hopefully they > will soon be commited. Thanks Frederic. -- Jorge González González Weblog: http://aloriel.no-ip.org Fotolog: http://www.flickr.com/photos/aloriel ___ gnome-i18n mailing list gnome-i18n@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-i18n
Re: Release-notes translation
Hi, El vie, 11-09-2009 a las 14:38 +0200, Claude Paroz escribió: > Hi, > > I've just been informed by Paul Cutler, our release-notes hero for GNOME > 2.28 that the Release Notes are now final. > Go, go and translate... what about the screenshots? when will they be ready so we can upload our own ones? Thanks & cheers. -- Jorge González González Weblog: http://aloriel.no-ip.org Fotolog: http://www.flickr.com/photos/aloriel ___ gnome-i18n mailing list gnome-i18n@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-i18n
Re: Unable to update orca and evolution 2.28
El lun, 07-09-2009 a las 19:30 +0200, Claude Paroz escribió: > Le dimanche 06 septembre 2009 à 12:50 +0200, Jorge González González a > écrit : > > Hi, > > > > I'm unable to update orca 2.28 and evolution 2.28 (1 fuzzy string for > > Spanish). Every time I try I get that the branch is already up to date. > > > > May I get some help please? > > For this sort of problem, #i18n is the best channel, IMHO. thanks Claude, I'll try. Cheers. > > Claude > > ___ > gnome-i18n mailing list > gnome-i18n@gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-i18n -- Jorge González González Weblog: http://aloriel.no-ip.org Fotolog: http://www.flickr.com/photos/aloriel ___ gnome-i18n mailing list gnome-i18n@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-i18n
Unable to update orca and evolution 2.28
Hi, I'm unable to update orca 2.28 and evolution 2.28 (1 fuzzy string for Spanish). Every time I try I get that the branch is already up to date. May I get some help please? Thanks and cheers. -- Jorge González González Weblog: http://aloriel.no-ip.org Fotolog: http://www.flickr.com/photos/aloriel ___ gnome-i18n mailing list gnome-i18n@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-i18n
Re: string freeze break request for gedit
El dom, 30-08-2009 a las 23:36 +0200, Ignacio Casal Quinteiro escribió: > If you prefer I could use Any_way but it must be or 'y' or 'w' I really don't mind since I'm gonna translate it ;) Cheers. > > On Sun, Aug 30, 2009 at 11:16 PM, Andre Klapper wrote: > Am Sonntag, den 30.08.2009, 22:33 +0200 schrieb Jorge González > González: > > erm, I thought there was a policy about not placing key > accelerators > > next to descendant characters such as g, p, q and y. > > > No. It's just that it should be avoided. > > http://library.gnome.org/devel/hig-book/stable/input-keyboard.html.en#choosing-access-keys > > andre > -- > mailto:ak...@gmx.net | failed > http://www.iomc.de/ | http://blogs.gnome.org/aklapper > > > ___ > gnome-i18n mailing list > gnome-i18n@gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-i18n > > > _______ > gnome-i18n mailing list > gnome-i18n@gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-i18n -- Jorge González González Weblog: http://aloriel.no-ip.org Fotolog: http://www.flickr.com/photos/aloriel ___ gnome-i18n mailing list gnome-i18n@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-i18n
Re: string freeze break request for gedit
El dom, 30-08-2009 a las 22:12 +0200, Claude Paroz escribió: > Le dimanche 30 août 2009 à 16:10 +0200, Ignacio Casal Quinteiro a > écrit : > > I'd like to request a string freeze break for: > > http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=346844 > > > > The idea is change: "_Edit Anyway" -> "Edit An_yway" and "_Don't Edit" > > -> "D_on't Edit" > > > This is about access key conflicts. It may affect translations too, at > least French and Galician are. > Translators, do you think this should justify a string freeze break? I'd > tend for accepting it, but I'd like to get your opinion. erm, I thought there was a policy about not placing key accelerators next to descendant characters such as g, p, q and y. anyway, for me it's only 3-4 strings, go ahead. > Claude > > _______ > gnome-i18n mailing list > gnome-i18n@gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-i18n -- Jorge González González Weblog: http://aloriel.no-ip.org Fotolog: http://www.flickr.com/photos/aloriel ___ gnome-i18n mailing list gnome-i18n@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-i18n
Not able to push changes to orca-2-28
Hi, I'm not able to push changes to orca-2-28. I have cloned orca, then switched to orca-2-28, then translated the es po file and then commited & pushed changes, and I get all the time "Everything up-to-date". I'm using: clone ssh+git://jorgeg...@git.gnome.org/git/orca git checkout --track -b orca-2-28 origin/gnome-2-28 mv path/orca.gnome-2-28.es.po po/es.po git commit -a --author "Francisco Javier Dorado Martinez " -m "Updated Spanish translation" git push You can see there is one string fuzzy for Spanish: http://l10n.gnome.org/vertimus/orca/gnome-2-28/po/es I'd say that it always worked before, and with any module, but now I'm getting this. Any hint? Thank you very much. -- Jorge González González Weblog: http://aloriel.no-ip.org Fotolog: http://www.flickr.com/photos/aloriel ___ gnome-i18n mailing list gnome-i18n@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-i18n
Re: String strike force / tool?
El jue, 27-08-2009 a las 15:01 +0200, Petr Kovar escribió: > What comes to my mind first is checking for ngettext use where appropriate. > As I can see, pofilter warns user when it encounters singular and > plural appended to a word in the original string. Fragments like "file(s)" > represent a long standing l10n issue not only for Slavic languages. +1 from Spanish. > > Thank you, guys, for your work. Yeap, thanks, and cheers. -- Jorge González González Weblog: http://aloriel.no-ip.org Fotolog: http://www.flickr.com/photos/aloriel ___ gnome-i18n mailing list gnome-i18n@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-i18n
Re: Little help with string for gnome-disk-utility
Hi Og, El dom, 23-08-2009 a las 22:48 -0400, Og Maciel escribió: > As I'm going though the very extensive gnome-disk-utility strings I > came across this one: > > #. Translators: Shown in the "Self-tests" item in the status table > #: ../src/gdu-gtk/gdu-ata-smart-dialog.c:2611 > #, fuzzy > msgid "Last self-test FAILED (Servo)" > > I was wondering if anyone can tell me the meaning of Servo? Not 100% sure, but I guess it refers to a servomechanism: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Servomechanism > > Thanks in advance, Cheers. -- Jorge González González Weblog: http://aloriel.no-ip.org Fotolog: http://www.flickr.com/photos/aloriel ___ gnome-i18n mailing list gnome-i18n@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-i18n
Re: [desktop entry spec] new FullName key
El dom, 09-08-2009 a las 17:49 +0200, Petr Kovar escribió: > Hi! > > Christian Rose , Fri, 7 Aug 2009 13:30:37 +0200: > > > On 8/7/09, Vincent Untz wrote: > > > Le lundi 03 août 2009, à 16:53 +0200, Christian Rose a écrit : > > > > So, as always with localization, you just can't concatenate sentences > > > > or pieces of sentences and get a result. It has to be translated as a > > > > whole. > > > > > > So it seems we have a good argument that "%1$s - %2$s" (with Name & > > > GenericName) is wrong. > > > > > > Christian, just out of interest: is it also true for "%1$s (%2$s)" (I > > > would expect it is). > > > > Yes. Actually, in the specific case of Swedish "%1$s (%2$s)" could > > work, but it would be a lot less elegant than the whole string without > > parentheses, and I can imagine other languages where it would not > > work. Let's keep it simple and translate it as a whole. > > With regard to the approaches described above, amongst other things, > there'd be issue with (noun) capitalization. E.g. in Slovak, we translate > "Rhythmbox Music Player" (that is "Name GenericName") as "Prehrávač hudby > Rhythmbox" (that is "GenericName Name"), because just as in many other > languages, unlike English, the "preponed" indeclinable attribute is > orthographically incorrect, as Luca has implied before in his message that > dealt with Italian. > > Now, with the approach like "Name - GenericName", we change the > capitalization of the GenericName, so then we get "Rhythmbox - prehrávač > hudby", not "Rhythmbox - Prehrávač hudby", which would be orthographically > incorrect, too. Here, the "- prehrávač hudby" fragment is conceived as a > description, not as a (generic) name with capital letter(s), hence the > minuscule. It's basically the same for Spanish. Cheers. -- Jorge González González Weblog: http://aloriel.no-ip.org Fotolog: http://www.flickr.com/photos/aloriel ___ gnome-i18n mailing list gnome-i18n@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-i18n
Re: New GNOME Website - Translation
El lun, 15-06-2009 a las 13:42 +0200, Kenneth Nielsen escribió: > > I guess it's not even possible to use outdated translations if > the original > changed cause the msgid changed (to the updated englisch text) > and this new > msgid is not translation. You can't fuzzy guess if there's an > old > translated string that could fit. couldn't this be half-fixed with msgmerge? if the string is the same, then msgmerge will use the old translation, and if it looks quite alike it will use it and mark it as fuzzy. Cheers. -- Jorge González González Weblog: http://aloriel.no-ip.org Fotolog: http://www.flickr.com/photos/aloriel ___ gnome-i18n mailing list gnome-i18n@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-i18n
Re: Bugs in translations in native language?
El sáb, 06-06-2009 a las 10:01 +0200, Johannes Schmid escribió: > Hi! > > > well, if the bug is related with translations, why would it be better > > to report it in English? for me it makes no sense. Just very few times > > some ones (Andre, Claude, ...) have joined a l10n Spanish bug. I don't > > see the point. > > I wasn't really refering to translation bugs here but it still makes > life easier because the bugsquad will have a hard job for duplicates and > this kind of things when they have to know each an every native > language. > > It will probably work for some few languages (say Spanish, Portuguese, > French and probably German) because there is big community of people who > can understand and translate bugs but I still don't think it would be > wise to encourage people to report bugs in their native language. It's > hard enough when people report bugs in English but use their native > translated user interface as reference (especially for language which > don't use a latin charset). If we are only referring to l10n bugs, still, I don't see the point to use English, besides if Marcel asked (Slovak, supposed to be a small team and community) I believe it's because he saw (or people told him) that it would be easier to fill bugs in Slovak. Then, if the bug turns out to be not l10n but i18n or whatever else, I'm quite sure that we, as team coordinators, will happily translate the bug into English for the developers. Cheers. > Regards, > Johannes -- Jorge González González Weblog: http://aloriel.no-ip.org Fotolog: http://www.flickr.com/photos/aloriel ___ gnome-i18n mailing list gnome-i18n@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-i18n
Re: Bugs in translations in native language?
El sáb, 06-06-2009 a las 02:50 +0200, Petr Kovar escribió: > Jorge González , Fri, 5 Jun 2009 20:54:30 +0200: > > > > It's usually best when people report bugs in Englisch but if they can't > > > it's better that they report in their native language. Actually it would > > > be good to translate the bugzilla interface as well. > > well, if the bug is related with translations, why would it be better > > to report it in English? for me it makes no sense. Just very few times > > some ones (Andre, Claude, ...) have joined a l10n Spanish bug. I don't > > see the point. > > The point is that guiding people to report bugs in their native languages > to Bugzilla with English interface is a little bit impractical, or in other > words, just odd. ;-) well, I don't see it like that, there are many pages in English on the Internet, and people from other countries still visit them (even just to see pics). The interface is not very difficult to understand, but I know many people do not create bugs because it's in English or because they have to create an account. I really believe that having bugzilla localised would help, but anyway, if they have their desktop localised they will write the "steps to reproduce the bug" in their language, not in English. Cheers. > Cheers > Petr Kovar -- Jorge González González Weblog: http://aloriel.no-ip.org Fotolog: http://www.flickr.com/photos/aloriel ___ gnome-i18n mailing list gnome-i18n@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-i18n
Re: Bugs in translations in native language?
Hi, El vie, 05-06-2009 a las 07:58 +0200, Marcel Telka escribió: > Hi, > > Everybody can file bugs in translations into bugzilla under the l10n > product (and particular component). What is the policy for such > bugreports? Should they be written in English only? Can a reporter use > his own native language for describing a bug in translation to his > native language? well, at least for Spanish team I receive bugs in both ways, I would say that I receive more in Spanish than in English, and I didn't see any complain. > > Thanks. Cheers. -- Jorge González González Weblog: http://aloriel.no-ip.org Fotolog: http://www.flickr.com/photos/aloriel ___ gnome-i18n mailing list gnome-i18n@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-i18n
Re: Manuals without strings
El mié, 20-05-2009 a las 09:17 +0200, Claude Paroz escribió: > Le mercredi 20 mai 2009 à 07:41 +0200, Jorge González González a écrit : > > Hi, > > > > I found the following modules with empty documentation: > > genius: http://l10n.gnome.org/vertimus/genius/master/help/es > > gnome-pilot: http://l10n.gnome.org/vertimus/gnome-pilot/master/help/es > > * meld http://l10n.gnome.org/vertimus/meld/master/help/es (not standard > > doc) > > These help files are not gnome-doc-utils compliant. Removed from stats. Thanks Claude. > > Claude > > > ___ > gnome-i18n mailing list > gnome-i18n@gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-i18n -- Jorge González González Weblog: http://aloriel.no-ip.org Fotolog: http://www.flickr.com/photos/aloriel ___ gnome-i18n mailing list gnome-i18n@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-i18n
Manuals without strings
Hi, I found the following modules with empty documentation: genius: http://l10n.gnome.org/vertimus/genius/master/help/es gnome-pilot: http://l10n.gnome.org/vertimus/gnome-pilot/master/help/es * meld http://l10n.gnome.org/vertimus/meld/master/help/es (not standard doc) Cheers. -- Jorge González González Weblog: http://aloriel.no-ip.org Fotolog: http://www.flickr.com/photos/aloriel ___ gnome-i18n mailing list gnome-i18n@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-i18n
Re: gnome-utils link not working at DL
El lun, 04-05-2009 a las 09:01 +0200, Gil Forcada escribió: > El dg 03 de 05 de 2009 a les 23:24 +0200, en/na Jorge González González > va escriure: > > Hi, > > > > gnome-utils link is broken, it reports a 404 not found: > > http://l10n.gnome.org/POT/gnome-utils.master/gnome-utils.master.pot > > In the http://l10n.gnome.org/module/gnome-utils/ it says: > > http://l10n.gnome.org/module/gnome-utils/ > > Error regenerating POT file for gnome-utils: > intltool-update -g 'gnome-utils' -p > can't open ./../gfloppy/gfloppy.desktop.in: No such file or directory at > /usr/local/bin/intltool-extract line 212. > can't open ./../gfloppy/gfloppy.schemas.in: No such file or directory at > /usr/local/bin/intltool-extract line 212. > can't open ./../gfloppy/src/gfloppy2.glade: No such file or directory at > /usr/local/bin/intltool-extract line 212. > xgettext: error while opening "../gfloppy/gfloppy.desktop.in.h" for reading: > No such file or directory > ERROR: xgettext failed to generate PO template file. Please consult >error message above if there is any. > error Can't generate POT file, statistics aborted. > > So just updating the POTFILES.in should do the trick :) > > Hopefully in a minute the statistics will work again. many thanks, and cheers! > > Cheers, > > > Cheers! -- Jorge González González Weblog: http://aloriel.no-ip.org Fotolog: http://www.flickr.com/photos/aloriel ___ gnome-i18n mailing list gnome-i18n@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-i18n
gnome-utils link not working at DL
Hi, gnome-utils link is broken, it reports a 404 not found: http://l10n.gnome.org/POT/gnome-utils.master/gnome-utils.master.pot Cheers! -- Jorge González González Weblog: http://aloriel.no-ip.org Fotolog: http://www.flickr.com/photos/aloriel ___ gnome-i18n mailing list gnome-i18n@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-i18n
Re: problem with git
El sáb, 02-05-2009 a las 15:57 +0530, Tirumurti Vasudevan escribió: > well my translation team lead delivered a girl baby and so i decided > to take up the commits of translated po files on my own > i need someone to hold my hand till i get the hang of this. > i have an account alright. > > this morning i tried to work with git. > went through the How to use Git for GNOME translators page > i browsed through the http://git.gnome.org/ repositories and decided on totum. > > i verified my account exists configured git and cloned totum (oh boy 13.8 Mb!) > > here i have a problem. > i saw the damned lies page that GNOME 2.28 (development) is the one > to work with. > actually i have downloaded all the po files as of now. > i have updated the totum file. > > i see no branch GNOME 2.28 in the git repos. > i have opened the totum folder and found the ta.po is upto date and > that belongs to 2.26 GNOME 2.26 means the stable branch, however not all the modules have been branched for GNOME 2.26. Right now there is no GNOME 2.28 branch for modules, this means GNOME 2.28 is the development branch and is called master at GNOME's GIT. There is where you have to commit your changes. > what to do now? > > thanks in advance > > dr.tv > > -- Jorge González González Weblog: http://aloriel.no-ip.org Fotolog: http://www.flickr.com/photos/aloriel ___ gnome-i18n mailing list gnome-i18n@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-i18n
Re: Problems with git
El vie, 01-05-2009 a las 13:24 -0500, Jason D. Clinton escribió: > 2009/5/1 Jorge González González : > > El vie, 01-05-2009 a las 13:04 -0400, Og Maciel escribió: > >> 2009/5/1 Jorge González González : > >> > I'm switching to the branch with "git checkout --track -b > >> > origin/gnome-2-26" and apparently everything goes well until I push the > >> > commit. > >> > >> Try: git checkout -b gnome-2-26 --track origin/gnome-2-26 > >> > >> then do your work, commit it and push. > > many thanks, looks like now is working; we should update the wiki pagea > > bout git, don't we? > > The wiki page already says that. You didn't copy the directions correctly. Oops, its true. Sorry for the inconvenience, and thanks again. -- Jorge González González Weblog: http://aloriel.no-ip.org Fotolog: http://www.flickr.com/photos/aloriel ___ gnome-i18n mailing list gnome-i18n@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-i18n
Re: Problems with git
El vie, 01-05-2009 a las 13:04 -0400, Og Maciel escribió: > 2009/5/1 Jorge González González : > > I'm switching to the branch with "git checkout --track -b > > origin/gnome-2-26" and apparently everything goes well until I push the > > commit. > > Try: git checkout -b gnome-2-26 --track origin/gnome-2-26 > > then do your work, commit it and push. many thanks, looks like now is working; we should update the wiki pagea bout git, don't we? Cheers! -- Jorge González González Weblog: http://aloriel.no-ip.org Fotolog: http://www.flickr.com/photos/aloriel ___ gnome-i18n mailing list gnome-i18n@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-i18n
Problems with git
Hi, I'm sorry to ask help about git, but I cannot find nor figure out how to solve this. I tried to update gnome-applets-2-26, nautilus-2-26, yelp-2-26 and some other branches but I get the error: fatal: attempt to push into a shallow repository fatal: The remote end hung up unexpectedly I'm switching to the branch with "git checkout --track -b origin/gnome-2-26" and apparently everything goes well until I push the commit. Any clue? -- Jorge González González Weblog: http://aloriel.no-ip.org Fotolog: http://www.flickr.com/photos/aloriel ___ gnome-i18n mailing list gnome-i18n@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-i18n
Re: Weird status for several modules and releases
Hi, El lun, 20-04-2009 a las 13:58 +0200, Claude Paroz escribió: > > Please point to real examples if you want me to check for problems. http://l10n.gnome.org/vertimus/gturing/master/help/es manual shows 0/0/0 Cheers! PS: sorry Claude, wrong button. -- Jorge González González Weblog: http://aloriel.no-ip.org Fotolog: http://www.flickr.com/photos/aloriel ___ gnome-i18n mailing list gnome-i18n@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-i18n
Re: Weird status for several modules and releases
El mar, 21-04-2009 a las 15:25 +0200, Claude Paroz escribió: > Le mardi 21 avril 2009 à 10:14 +0200, Jorge González a écrit : > > Hi, > > > > On Mon, Apr 20, 2009 at 13:58, Claude Paroz wrote: > > > > > >> and I also noticed few new > > >> untranslated and fuzzy strings for old releases (both at UI and > > >> manuals). I tried to update those but it says everything is up to date, > > >> so I guess is a problem with DL/intltool. > > > > > > Please point to real examples if you want me to check for problems. > > These should be at 100%, at least they were in SVN: > > > > http://l10n.gnome.org/vertimus/gok/gnome-2-22/po/es > > http://l10n.gnome.org/vertimus/gok/gnome-2-22/po/es > > I extracted gok 2.22 branch from SVN and from git, compared the po files > after an intltool-update, and found out where the differences were: > > diff -u gok-svn/gnome-2-22/gok.desktop.in gok/gok.desktop.in > --- gok-svn/gnome-2-22/gok.desktop.in 2009-04-21 14:43:26.0 > +0200 > +++ gok/gok.desktop.in2009-04-21 14:45:26.0 +0200 > @@ -1,7 +1,7 @@ > [Desktop Entry] > Encoding=UTF-8 > _Name=On-Screen Keyboard > -_Comment=Type and navigate applications using alternative input devices > +_Comment=Navigate applications and type using alternative input devices > Exec=gok > Terminal=false > Type=Application > > > > http://l10n.gnome.org/vertimus/evolution/gnome-2-24/help/es > > http://l10n.gnome.org/vertimus/evolution/gnome-2-22/help/es > > http://l10n.gnome.org/vertimus/evolution/gnome-2-20/help/es > > http://l10n.gnome.org/vertimus/evolution/gnome-2-18/help/es > > > > http://l10n.gnome.org/vertimus/gnome-user-docs/gnome-2-22/accessibility-guide/es > > > > http://l10n.gnome.org/vertimus/eog/gnome-2-18/po/es > > eog.glade is even not in the same directory in svn or git gnome-2-18 > branches. But there is an origin/gnome-2-18_svn3671 branch which might > explain some import problem... > > > http://l10n.gnome.org/vertimus/gnome-volume-manager/gnome-2-18/po/es > > > > http://l10n.gnome.org/vertimus/gnome-terminal/gnome-2-20/help/es > > > > http://l10n.gnome.org/vertimus/sound-juicer/gnome-2-20/po/es > > > > I didn't explore all problematic modules above, but this shows that the > git migration seems not entirely trustable :-( > > As translator, I'd suggest not to touch these old branches, and let the > sysadmin team resolve these issues first (hence cc'ed > gnome-infrastructure). Thanks claude, I also think I should live it and wait. > > Cheers, Cheers. -- Jorge González González Weblog: http://aloriel.no-ip.org Fotolog: http://www.flickr.com/photos/aloriel ___ gnome-i18n mailing list gnome-i18n@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-i18n
Weird status for several modules and releases
Hi, since the migration to git I noticed several modules which status is weird, for example there are two bug-buddy user-guides, both with 0 strings, like gok user manual, [1] and I also noticed few new untranslated and fuzzy strings for old releases (both at UI and manuals). I tried to update those but it says everything is up to date, so I guess is a problem with DL/intltool. Also, at least one member of the Spanish team reported that the migration of gnome-commander left many strings untranslated and fuzzy, something I fixed uploading the last po he uploaded to DL, but this issue has/will probably happen with other modules and teams. Cheers. [1] http://l10n.gnome.org/languages/es/gnome-2-28/doc/ -- Jorge González González Weblog: http://aloriel.no-ip.org Fotolog: http://www.flickr.com/photos/aloriel ___ gnome-i18n mailing list gnome-i18n@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-i18n
Re: Epiphany-extensions download link does not work at DL
El sáb, 18-04-2009 a las 19:53 +0200, Claude Paroz escribió: > Le samedi 18 avril 2009 à 18:56 +0200, Jorge González González a écrit : > > Hi, > > > > epiphany-extensions download link is not working at DL, is it because > > the migration is not finished yet? > > > > http://l10n.gnome.org/POT/epiphany-extensions.master/epiphany-extensions.master.es.po > > This happened when the POT file was not buildable during the migration. > Just tell me when you find such errors and I can trigger an update > manually. Many thanks Claude. -- Jorge González González Weblog: http://aloriel.no-ip.org Fotolog: http://www.flickr.com/photos/aloriel ___ gnome-i18n mailing list gnome-i18n@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-i18n
Epiphany-extensions download link does not work at DL
Hi, epiphany-extensions download link is not working at DL, is it because the migration is not finished yet? http://l10n.gnome.org/POT/epiphany-extensions.master/epiphany-extensions.master.es.po Thank you very much. -- Jorge González González Weblog: http://aloriel.no-ip.org Fotolog: http://www.flickr.com/photos/aloriel ___ gnome-i18n mailing list gnome-i18n@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-i18n
Re: Can't commit translations to several modules
El jue, 16-04-2009 a las 18:53 +0200, Andre Klapper escribió: > Am Donnerstag, den 16.04.2009, 18:45 +0200 schrieb Jorge González > González: > > svn: Can't open file '/svn/module/db/txn-current-lock': Permission > > denied > > Is it happening a massive migration to git? > > Yes. See devel-announce-list (that everybody should be subscribed to > IMO), or Planet GNOME. hum, thanks for the info, I'm suscribed to planet gnome but didn't notice the migration. However, there are some modules which didn't completely migrate? such as those on preview/module? what is going to happen with them? > andre Thanks Andre. -- Jorge González González Weblog: http://aloriel.no-ip.org Fotolog: http://www.flickr.com/photos/aloriel ___ gnome-i18n mailing list gnome-i18n@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-i18n
Can't commit translations to several modules
Hi, I'm having troubles commiting files to several modules, at least: * tracker * damned-lies * goffice * dia I get the same error in every module: svn: Can't open file '/svn/module/db/txn-current-lock': Permission denied Is any one getting the same error? Is it happening a massive migration to git? Cheers. -- Jorge González González Weblog: http://aloriel.no-ip.org Fotolog: http://www.flickr.com/photos/aloriel ___ gnome-i18n mailing list gnome-i18n@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-i18n
Re: Issues with keyboard accelerators
Thank you very much Simos. Cheers. El lun, 30-03-2009 a las 11:07 +, Simos escribió: > 2009/3/30 Jorge González : > > Hi all, > > > > I'm having some issues with keyboard accelerators. Recently some users > > opened bugs concerning the usage of keyboard accelerators with letters > > containing accents (ie.e _í, _á, etc); apparently they do not work, > > however I'm quite sure I tried them long ago and they did work. How > > are other teams that use accents (and such) dealing with this problem? > > Are you avoiding using keyboard accelerators with these letters? > > Should I report the bug to gtk? > > It is indeed a bug. For our case, we (Greek team) try to avoid those > characters when setting accelerators for the reasons below. > > The source of the problem relates to your keyboard layout, and the > fact that it may require dead keys in order to print characters such > as áéäẽ, etc. > Due to the dead key sequence, it is currently not possible to do things like > Alt + + , the sequence is canceled as soon as > Alt+dead_acute is pressed. > > If however you could get á in your keyboard layout by pressing a > single key (that is, no need for dead key), then the accelerator would > simply work. > > Is it a GTK+ bug or a Xorg bug? > > GTK+ could be modified so that when it sees "_árbol", it would > actually register it as if it work "_arbol", so pressing Alt+a would > simply work. > The downside is that it would not be able to distinguish between áäãâà, etc. > Would that be a realistic problem however? > > Would we want users to have to press Alt++a in order to > get to the accelerator? With some layouts, you get when > you press AltGr+, so the full keyboard sequence is > Alt+(AltGr++). > > I think I have seen a report about this but I cannot find it at gtk+, > component: input-methods. It might actually be a report at > freedesktop.org, so you might want to have a look there. The sequence > Alt++ might actually fail due to the X server cutting > the sequence once the deadkey is pressed. > > Hope this helps, > Simos -- Jorge González González Weblog: http://aloriel.no-ip.org Fotolog: http://www.flickr.com/photos/aloriel ___ gnome-i18n mailing list gnome-i18n@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-i18n
Re: Pashto team's translations need to be committed!
Hi, El mié, 18-03-2009 a las 19:40 +0500, Zabeeh Khan escribió: > Hello, > > I have translated this new module: > http://l10n.gnome.org/vertimus/totem/gnome-2-26/po/ps > > and have updated the translation for: > http://l10n.gnome.org/vertimus/gtk+/HEAD/po/ps > > Can someone please commit them? They are attached in their pages. Done, great job! > > Thanks, > > Zabeeh Khan > -- Jorge González González Weblog: http://aloriel.no-ip.org Fotolog: http://www.flickr.com/photos/aloriel ___ gnome-i18n mailing list gnome-i18n@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-i18n
Re: Mistake in release-notes
El mié, 18-03-2009 a las 13:27 +0100, Frederic Peters escribió: > Gabor Kelemen wrote: > > > People who appreciated the way CD burning used to work will not have to > > relearn their habits; the existing interfaces are also available. > > Places ▸ CD/DVD Creator in the menu still brings up a folder you can > > drag into. CD (ISO) image files can still be burnt directly from the > > file manager by right-clicking on them. > > > > No, the CD/DVD Creator is not anymore in Places, but in > > Applications/System Tools. So we might want to translate this sentence > > like it contained something like this: > > > > Selecting ApplicationsSystem > > ToolsCD/DVD Creator > > still brings up a folder you can drag into. > > What is preferred by translators ? Changing the original string, so > it gets marked fuzzy and everybody gets notified, or individually > making sure our translations talk about the right menu ? I don't mind, but I would like a solution ASAP. Regards. -- Jorge González González Weblog: http://aloriel.no-ip.org Fotolog: http://www.flickr.com/photos/aloriel ___ gnome-i18n mailing list gnome-i18n@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-i18n
RE: How to update Rhythmbox and Totem L10N DEV Version to community
Hello Howard, I'm Jorge González, coordinator of the Spanish team. Thanks for your effort and contribution. El mié, 18-03-2009 a las 13:57 +0800, Howard escribió: > Leonardo, > Thanks for your information! > > There is several issue confused me, and need your support. > 1. How can I submit the translation to Damned Lies? Or can I submit them > across Canonical? You can upload the translations to DL, you just have to register, but some teams, like Spanish, already have assigned people who take care of modules, so for our case I will compare both translations and suggest the actual mantainer possible changes. You cannot submit the translations across Canonical. > 2. If these process is not available for me, how can I contact the module > owner to reviewing translation? I guess Leonardo will tell you the same as me, contact the coordinator and he will contact the mantainer. > 3. BTW, my team also translated Xournal and updated Gthumb both for > es_MX and pt_BR; may I contribute them to GNOME for reviewing? And > what is the process? For Spanish, we do not translate other tahn "es", neutral Spanish, you can however send me the file and I will do the same as explained before, contact the mantainer of Gthumb, but AFAIK xournal is not hosted at GNOME's svn. Best regards Howard. > > Best Regards! > Howard > > > -Original Message- > From: Leonardo Ferreira Fontenelle [mailto:leonar...@gnome.org] > Sent: 2009年3月16日 4:42 > To: Howard; GNOME i18n list > Cc: 'Jason.Han' > Subject: Re: How to update Rhythmbox and Totem L10N DEV Version to community > > Thanks for contributing! > > The GNOME Translation Project uses a web application called "Damned > Lies" to manage the workflow: http://l10n.gnome.org. Generically > speaking, I suggest you to have your translators joinning the teams > (authorization is not needed) and submitting your translations for > reviewing; if everything is OK the translations will be committed to > GNOME's Subversion repository and will be made available to users when > there's another release. In the future I suggest you to work directly > upstream, to make your contribution more readily available (e.g., > Rhythmbox 0.11.6 was already released) and avoid having two people > working on the same translation at the same time. Regarding Totem, the > GNOME 2.22.x development cycle is already over, and we are working to > release Totem 2.26.0 in a few days. You can always check our schedule > at: http://live.gnome.org/Schedule. The page alwayshas a link to a more > detailed page about the current release cycle. Please check if your > contributions weren't already implemented by somebody else :) > > Speaking as the pt_BR l10n team coordinator, Totem and Rhythmbox are > already completely translated to our language. Please compare our > current translation to yours, and submit a translation with the best of > both. If your translation updates include the "hotkey" (_access keys?) > fixes, you may want to wait until the fixes in the glade file are > incorporated to the source code, and only then submit the translation > via Damned Lies. Your Brazilian translator(s) may want to subscribe to > our mailing list > (http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-pt_br-list) and > reading/contributing to our wiki (http://br.gnome.org/) for better > co-operation. > > Non-l10n fixes, improvements and bug reports (e.g. the glade files) are > best submitted using GNOME's bug tracker system: > http://bugzilla.gnome.org. > > It will be surely nice to have you guys around! > > > On Mon, 9 Mar 2009 11:01:58 +0800, "Howard" > said: > > To whom maybe concerned, > > > > HiSoft L10N Team updated ES and PT_BR translation base on Rhythmbox (v > > 0.11.5) and Totem (v 2.22.1). > > > > And executed 3 cycle L10N testing for SW, fixed 2 hotkey defects on > > Rhythmbox. (modified 2 .glade files) > > > > Now I want to consult the criteria of open source software delivery to > > your > > community. > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks! > > > > Howard > > > > > > > > hiSoft Technology International Ltd > > > > Web: www.hisoft.com > > > > > > > > ___ > gnome-i18n mailing list > gnome-i18n@gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-i18n -- Jorge González González Weblog: http://aloriel.no-ip.org Fotolog: http://www.flickr.com/photos/aloriel ___ gnome-i18n mailing list gnome-i18n@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-i18n
Re: Display Settings section added to release-notes
El mar, 17-03-2009 a las 12:49 -0600, Federico Mena Quintero escribió: > Hi, translators, > > I just committed a section to the release notes about the Display > Settings tool. The changes are one figure in > release-notes/help/C/figures and a little text in > release-notes/help/C/rnusers.xml. > > How can I update es.po? I'll gladly provide a translation to Spanish as > well. there is no need, I already updated the Spanish translation. > > Federico Jorge. -- Jorge González González Weblog: http://aloriel.no-ip.org Fotolog: http://www.flickr.com/photos/aloriel ___ gnome-i18n mailing list gnome-i18n@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-i18n
Re: String additions to 'glib.HEAD'
El lun, 16-03-2009 a las 22:00 +0100, Christian Rose escribió: > On 3/16/09, Jorge González González wrote: > > El lun, 16-03-2009 a las 16:03 +, GNOME Status Pages escribió: > > > This is an automatic notification from status generation scripts on: > > > http://l10n.gnome.org. > > > > > > There have been following string additions to module 'glib.HEAD': > > > > > > + "Failed to write file '%s': fflush() failed: %s" > > > + "Failed to write file '%s': fsync() failed: %s" > > > > > > Note that this doesn't directly indicate a string freeze break, but it > > > might be worth investigating. > > > > Hi, > > > > is this a string-freeze break? should we translate it? > > > > Cheers. > > AFAIK, glib and gtk+ are not affected by the GNOME freezes, so I guess > the answers to the questions are "no" and "yes", in that order... :( thanks Christian, I love to have strings to translate at the very last moment :-p > Christian Cheers. -- Jorge González González Weblog: http://aloriel.no-ip.org Fotolog: http://www.flickr.com/photos/aloriel ___ gnome-i18n mailing list gnome-i18n@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-i18n
Re: String additions to 'glib.HEAD'
Hi, is this a string-freeze break? should we translate it? Cheers. El lun, 16-03-2009 a las 16:03 +, GNOME Status Pages escribió: > This is an automatic notification from status generation scripts on: > http://l10n.gnome.org. > > There have been following string additions to module 'glib.HEAD': > > + "Failed to write file '%s': fflush() failed: %s" > + "Failed to write file '%s': fsync() failed: %s" > > Note that this doesn't directly indicate a string freeze break, but it > might be worth investigating. > ___ > gnome-i18n mailing list > gnome-i18n@gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-i18n -- Jorge González González Weblog: http://aloriel.no-ip.org Fotolog: http://www.flickr.com/photos/aloriel ___ gnome-i18n mailing list gnome-i18n@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-i18n
Re: Don't add ChangeLog entries to ChangeLog-less modules
Hi, El dom, 15-03-2009 a las 14:30 +0100, Christian Persch escribió: > Hi; > > Absence of ChangeLog, po/ChangeLog and help/ChangeLog etc. means that > the module in question does not use changelogs. (For example, > this is the case for epiphany, epiphany-extensions, gucharmap, > gnome-terminal, gnome-games.) However, some translators still add > changelog entries to modules that do not have ChangeLog files, adding > them to po/ChangeLog.pre-X-Y or ChangeLog.old etc. These files are, as > their name already indicates, not to be modified further. Please stop > doing this. didn't we agree that the standard was to have them? > > Regards, > Christian > ___ > gnome-i18n mailing list > gnome-i18n@gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-i18n -- Jorge González González Weblog: http://aloriel.no-ip.org Fotolog: http://www.flickr.com/photos/aloriel ___ gnome-i18n mailing list gnome-i18n@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-i18n
[Fwd: Re: Status of release notes]
> On Sat, Mar 14, 2009 at 12:26 PM, Frederic Peters wrote: > > It is gtk+/tests/testentryicons, but I realize it has no support for > > i18n; just like the GtkEntry with a progress bar screenshot, I guess > > it will certainly be easier to just get rid of all strings. > > > > What do you think about this? +1 as well. -- Jorge González González Weblog: http://aloriel.no-ip.org Fotolog: http://www.flickr.com/photos/aloriel ___ gnome-i18n mailing list gnome-i18n@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-i18n
Re: Status of release notes
El sáb, 14-03-2009 a las 16:00 +0100, Frederic Peters escribió: > Kenneth Nielsen wrote: > > > PS: When everything is ready, could you then also include the information > > about the link and the password to the page where we can preview the > > translations, so that new translators (or lazy old ones ;) have that > > information handy. > > http://library.gnome.org/misc/release-notes/2.26/ davyd/2.26 > > Do note they are not finalised yet. Many thanks. How can I get the image rndevelopers.entry-icons.png? from Anjuta? from Glade? Thanks in advance. Cheers. > > > > Cheers, > > Frederic > ___ > gnome-i18n mailing list > gnome-i18n@gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-i18n -- Jorge González González Weblog: http://aloriel.no-ip.org Fotolog: http://www.flickr.com/photos/aloriel ___ gnome-i18n mailing list gnome-i18n@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-i18n
Re: Here we go again *SIGH*
El mar, 03-03-2009 a las 08:29 -0300, Jonh Wendell escribió: > Em Ter, 2009-03-03 às 11:58 +0100, Kenneth Nielsen escreveu: > > 2009/3/3 Johannes Schmid : > > > Anyway, of course bug-fixing mostly starts after string freeze because > > > it's in the last weeks were a lot of polishing happens. > > > > But some of these are purely cosmetic fixes that developers have had > > lying around (thats there own words) and that takes very little time > > to implement. It should be possible to get this done before string > > freeze. > > > > Regards Kenneth Nielsen > > Please, be more polite. I don't know about you, but I have a real life > and a real job. Unfortunately I don't have all time I wish to work on > GNOME, so, I do code after string freeze, yes. > > Note that we do not belong to a perfect world. Go to do your > translations and let developers do their job. Erm, the same terms of politeness apply to you as well; taking your email if you change «programmer» for «translator» you get almost the same result, but obviously, in the other way around. Is it that difficult to branch and keep coding your stuff without bothering translators? bMost of us work as well, and we translate/code in our free time, respecting each others team is as necessary as productive. Cheers. -- Jorge González González Weblog: http://aloriel.no-ip.org Fotolog: http://www.flickr.com/photos/aloriel ___ gnome-i18n mailing list gnome-i18n@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-i18n
Re: DL stats
Hi, El lun, 09-03-2009 a las 22:20 +0100, Claude Paroz escribió: > Le lundi 09 mars 2009 à 21:17 +0100, Jorge González González a écrit : > > Hi, > > > > looks like DL stats are partially wrong, at least two teams (Hungarian > > and Spanish) show 1 string unstranslated for UI, but when you see the > > full page for GNOME 2.26 you see there isn't any string left to > > translate. > > > > http://l10n.gnome.org/releases/gnome-2-26/ > > http://l10n.gnome.org/languages/es/gnome-2-26/ui/ > > http://l10n.gnome.org/languages/hu/gnome-2-26/ui/ > > Doh, my plan to have Spanish sticking with 99% failed... lol > The problem was with bad stats in libgweather (po, not po-locations). > After forcing stat refresh, a fuzzy string now correctly appears in your > merged po files. Thank you Claude, you rock! > Claude Cheers. -- Jorge González González Weblog: http://aloriel.no-ip.org Fotolog: http://www.flickr.com/photos/aloriel ___ gnome-i18n mailing list gnome-i18n@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-i18n
DL stats
Hi, looks like DL stats are partially wrong, at least two teams (Hungarian and Spanish) show 1 string unstranslated for UI, but when you see the full page for GNOME 2.26 you see there isn't any string left to translate. http://l10n.gnome.org/releases/gnome-2-26/ http://l10n.gnome.org/languages/es/gnome-2-26/ui/ http://l10n.gnome.org/languages/hu/gnome-2-26/ui/ Cheers. -- Jorge González González Weblog: http://aloriel.no-ip.org Fotolog: http://www.flickr.com/photos/aloriel ___ gnome-i18n mailing list gnome-i18n@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-i18n
libwnck, metacity and window actions
Hi, some time ago several actions were added to the window behaviour, "Unmaximize" and "Unminimize", in several translation teams we used to translate it "Restore", although some teams translate both as "Restore", we have a problem pointed out long ago: http://mail.gnome.org/archives/desktop-devel-list/2004-February/msg00173.html > *Have a window in Original State, Maximize it first and Minimize it > next. > > *Now right click on the Iconized window. It will show UnMinimize as well > as UnMaximize. Where in if the user clicks UnMaximize nothing happens on > the screen. But the next right click shows UnMinimize and Maximize. > > *Now click Maximize, Nothing shows up on the window, except the Next > right click shows UnMinimize and UnMaximize. > > Isn't it a usability issue there? We still have this issue, we can have both actions at the same time, is it gonna be fixed? is there any workaround? Cheers. -- Jorge González González Weblog: http://aloriel.no-ip.org Fotolog: http://www.flickr.com/photos/aloriel ___ gnome-i18n mailing list gnome-i18n@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-i18n
Re: DL mailing and workflow
El sáb, 14-02-2009 a las 01:08 +0100, Marcel Telka escribió: > On Fri, Feb 13, 2009 at 10:05:27PM +0100, Jorge González González wrote: > > El mar, 03-02-2009 a las 02:24 +0100, Marcel Telka escribió: > > > On Mon, Feb 02, 2009 at 06:21:55PM +0100, Jorge González González wrote: > > > > Would it be possible to have an option to take modules back? translators > > > > can reserve modules which have not been assigned to them. > > > > > > As a workaround, the coordinator could perform "Inform of submission" > > > action anytime to "roll back" the transaction and return it to default > > > state. > > Ok, but as you say it's a "workaround", I would like to see a button or > > something to take modules back. > > File a bugreport :-). Good point, done. Thanks Marcel. -- Jorge González González Weblog: http://aloriel.no-ip.org Fotolog: http://www.flickr.com/photos/aloriel ___ gnome-i18n mailing list gnome-i18n@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-i18n
Re: DL not updating removed images (and mail list at DL database)
El vie, 13-02-2009 a las 23:33 +0100, Gabor Kelemen escribió: > Jorge González González írta: > > Hi, > > > > I removed some of the duplicated images from documentation, but DL still > > shows me the message that I should not copy images when they are the > > same, for example: > > http://l10n.gnome.org/module/totem/help/HEAD/es/images/ > > > > This is a known (at least I hope :)) bug: > > http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=567680 oh! sorry then for the noise. > > > Plus, would it be possible to have Spanish mailing list added to DL > > database? Our mailing list is: gnome-es-l...@gnome.org. > > Done Thanks! > > Regards > Gabor Kelemen > ___ > gnome-i18n mailing list > gnome-i18n@gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-i18n -- Jorge González González Weblog: http://aloriel.no-ip.org Fotolog: http://www.flickr.com/photos/aloriel ___ gnome-i18n mailing list gnome-i18n@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-i18n
DL not updating removed images (and mail list at DL database)
Hi, I removed some of the duplicated images from documentation, but DL still shows me the message that I should not copy images when they are the same, for example: http://l10n.gnome.org/module/totem/help/HEAD/es/images/ Plus, would it be possible to have Spanish mailing list added to DL database? Our mailing list is: gnome-es-l...@gnome.org. Thank you very much. Cheers. -- Jorge González González Weblog: http://aloriel.no-ip.org Fotolog: http://www.flickr.com/photos/aloriel ___ gnome-i18n mailing list gnome-i18n@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-i18n
Re: DL mailing and workflow
Ahoj Marcel. El mar, 03-02-2009 a las 02:24 +0100, Marcel Telka escribió: > Hi Jorge, > > On Mon, Feb 02, 2009 at 06:21:55PM +0100, Jorge González González wrote: > > Hi, > > > > at least at the Spanish translation team mail list we don't receive > > mails when translators update their modules, I do receive some but to my > > email, not to the list. The mail gnome...@gnome.org is already added to > > the list members. > > This is because you do not have registered the mailing list in DL > database: > > http://l10n.gnome.org/teams/es I see, so now I should ask for the mailing list being included in DL. Thanks. > > Here is example with registered mailing list: > > http://l10n.gnome.org/teams/sk > > > > > Plus, when I click on "Inform of submission", if I add any comment, > > those are not sent to the translators. Is that the correct workflow? > > The mail is sent to mailing list only. > > > Should I add my comments before clicking "Inform of submission"? > > It is not required. In case there is no comment added, Vertimus will > send an email (to the list) with "No comment" (or very similar) text. Got it. > > > > > Would it be possible to have an option to take modules back? translators > > can reserve modules which have not been assigned to them. > > As a workaround, the coordinator could perform "Inform of submission" > action anytime to "roll back" the transaction and return it to default > state. Ok, but as you say it's a "workaround", I would like to see a button or something to take modules back. > > > Have a nice day. Thank you very much and sorry for the late replay. -- Jorge González González Weblog: http://aloriel.no-ip.org Fotolog: http://www.flickr.com/photos/aloriel ___ gnome-i18n mailing list gnome-i18n@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-i18n
Re: Context based string in gdm
Hi, El mié, 11-02-2009 a las 11:57 +0100, Daniel Nylander escribió: > Hi all, > > Do other languages face the same issue as Swedish in this bug report? > Please help pushing this to be fixed in 2.26. > > http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=517558 > yeap, Spanish as well. -- Jorge González González Weblog: http://aloriel.no-ip.org Fotolog: http://www.flickr.com/photos/aloriel ___ gnome-i18n mailing list gnome-i18n@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-i18n
Re: String additions to GOK
Hi, El lun, 02-02-2009 a las 21:05 +0100, Gerd Kohlberger escribió: > Hello, > > I have just committed a patch for GOK that adds a new command-line option. > > Details are here: > http://svn.gnome.org/viewvc/gok?view=revision&revision=2618 > http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=536277 what about http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=570246 ? thanks and cheers. -- Jorge González González Weblog: http://aloriel.no-ip.org Fotolog: http://www.flickr.com/photos/aloriel ___ gnome-i18n mailing list gnome-i18n@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-i18n
DL mailing and workflow
Hi, at least at the Spanish translation team mail list we don't receive mails when translators update their modules, I do receive some but to my email, not to the list. The mail gnome...@gnome.org is already added to the list members. Plus, when I click on "Inform of submission", if I add any comment, those are not sent to the translators. Is that the correct workflow? Should I add my comments before clicking "Inform of submission"? Would it be possible to have an option to take modules back? translators can reserve modules which have not been assigned to them. Thanks for your help and great work. Cheers. -- Jorge González González Weblog: http://aloriel.no-ip.org Fotolog: http://www.flickr.com/photos/aloriel ___ gnome-i18n mailing list gnome-i18n@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-i18n
Re: gconf translation QA checker for keys (was Re: wrong translations of gconf key values)
El vie, 30-01-2009 a las 15:11 +0200, Dwayne Bailey escribió: > OK, I promised a test to find these errors and here it is... I'm a > sucker for writing QA checks. > > Stats > = > I've only tested these teams: > Spanish: 35 strings > Dzongkha: 8 strings > French: 9 strings > German: 7 Strings > > Instructions on how to run this yourself at the end. > > > The Test > > I extended the Translate Toolkit's pofilter (see this commit > http://translate.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/translate?view=rev&revision=10019 > it will be in release 1.3 in a few days) to run the gcnonf check on any entry > that has a location comment of *.schemas.in. In those entries it looks for > "[a-z_]+" in the msgid and checks that it occurs in the msgstr. > > Of course tests like this have diminishing returns. Once everyone has > fixed this error the test is not that useful. But it is still available > to ensure that nobody makes that error again. The tests are integrated > into Pootle and we'll integrate them into Virtaal, our new localisation > tool. > > pofilter > > pofilter is a tool we at Translate.org.za wrote in our early days to > check the quality of translations at a technical level. Machines are so > much better at finding these types of errors then humans. > > Yes you can use grep, I do, but the escaping and wrapping can mess with > anyone trying that. Actually you should use pogrep from the Translate > Toolkit anyway. > > With the new gconf test we're sitting at 47 tests. Quite a lot of > effort has gone in to reduce false positive and to make the test adapt > to the punctuation found in various languages. > > > How to use it the new gconf test > > > Picking on the Spanish team whose bug Andre pointed out: > > Spanish has 35 strings with potential issues which I found using > pofilter. > > Follow these instructions to install the toolkit from SVN or wait till > be release v1.3: > http://translate.sourceforge.net/wiki/toolkit/installation#installing_from_subversion > > Here are the steps I followed: > > 1) Download the PO files for Spanish: > http://l10n.gnome.org/languages/es/gnome-2-26/ui.tar.gz > > 2) Untarred them into gnome-2-26-es/ > > 3) Find the faulty string by running the gconf test: > pofilter --gnome -t gconf gnome-2-26-es gnome-2-26-es-gconf > > 4) Edit and review the PO files found in gnome-2-26-es-gconf > > 5) Merge the fixes back into the PO files > pomerge -t gnome-2-26-es gnome-2-26-es-gconf gnome-2-26-new > > 6) New updated files are in gnome-2-26-new commit these fixes the same > way as you would normally do it. > > And your done all fixed. > > On Wed, 2009-01-28 at 18:55 +0100, Andre Klapper wrote: > > Dear translators, > > > > Gconf key values should not be translated to your language only (by > > dropping the original english string) because it makes it impossible for > > users to set them manually, e.g. by using gconf-editor. > > That is what the literal quotes should imply, see > > http://live.gnome.org/TranslationProject/DevGuidelines/Enclose%20literal%20values%20in%20double%20quotes > > . > > > > Example: > > msgid "Possible values are \"always\", "\"bonded\"." > > bad msgstr "Los valores posibles son: «siempre», «vinculados». > > good msgstr "Los valores posibles son: «always» (siempre), «bonded» > > (vinculados)." > > > > > > I've grep'ed the evolution po files and found 37 wrong po files. > > Nautilus: 21 po files. Epiphany: 20 po files. > > > > While I'm going to file bug reports for the rest of the evening I ask > > you how to avoid this. :-) > > > > To me it's obvious by looking at the filename of the string (ending with > > ".schemas.in") that these values should not be translated, but to lots > > of other translators it's not. > > In http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=569457 aloriel proposes to > > add a comment to each of these strings. > > > > Other opinions/comments? > > > > andre Many thanks for this, I'll try to fix it ASAP. Cheers. -- Jorge González González Weblog: http://aloriel.no-ip.org Fotolog: http://www.flickr.com/photos/aloriel ___ gnome-i18n mailing list gnome-i18n@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-i18n
Re: wrong translations of gconf key values
El mié, 28-01-2009 a las 18:55 +0100, Andre Klapper escribió: > Dear translators, > > Gconf key values should not be translated to your language only (by > dropping the original english string) because it makes it impossible for > users to set them manually, e.g. by using gconf-editor. > That is what the literal quotes should imply, see > http://live.gnome.org/TranslationProject/DevGuidelines/Enclose%20literal%20values%20in%20double%20quotes > . > > Example: > msgid "Possible values are \"always\", "\"bonded\"." > bad msgstr "Los valores posibles son: «siempre», «vinculados». > good msgstr "Los valores posibles son: «always» (siempre), «bonded» > (vinculados)." > > > I've grep'ed the evolution po files and found 37 wrong po files. > Nautilus: 21 po files. Epiphany: 20 po files. > > While I'm going to file bug reports for the rest of the evening I ask > you how to avoid this. :-) > > To me it's obvious by looking at the filename of the string (ending with > ".schemas.in") that these values should not be translated, but to lots > of other translators it's not. > In http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=569457 aloriel proposes to > add a comment to each of these strings. It would be even nicer if the translation software gives you a hint about this, I know it makes this kind of software very dependant on GNOME, but we could have a plugin for it. I'm CCing Pablo and Nacho for this issue. > > Other opinions/comments? > > andre -- Jorge González González Weblog: http://aloriel.no-ip.org Fotolog: http://www.flickr.com/photos/aloriel ___ gnome-i18n mailing list gnome-i18n@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-i18n
Re: [Fwd: New module decisions for 2.26]
El mié, 21-01-2009 a las 19:55 +0100, Andre Klapper escribió: > + gnome-user-share (desktop) >- no documentation hum, that's already fixed, isn't it? Cheers. -- Jorge González González Weblog: http://aloriel.no-ip.org Fotolog: http://www.flickr.com/photos/aloriel ___ gnome-i18n mailing list gnome-i18n@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-i18n
Re: RFE: Vertimus and assigned translator
El mar, 20-01-2009 a las 12:10 +0100, Luca Ferretti escribió: > Il giorno lun, 19/01/2009 alle 09.33 +0100, Marcel Telka ha scritto: > > Hi all, > > > > In our localization team (Slovak) we are working in a way where a module > > is assigned to particular translator. So it is not allowed to _anybody_ > > (e.g. other translator) to submit updated translation. > > Marcel, this is currently the same behavior used on Italian team, of > course it has the advantages you listed, but please note there is at > least one shorcoming: the inability of currently assigned translator to > work on assigned/maintained module > > You can "lock" a translation in current l10n.gnome.org too, just > "reserve the translation" immediately after commit. > > But what will happen if someone will not able to update him/her own > translation in time for a release? GNOME Desktop is time based, so some > translators in our (Italian) team start working after the string freeze. > Sometimes they don't have the time to complete it, so the module is > temporary assigned to another person. In any case, the coordinator or the person with the svn account is still the person in charge to commit the translations, and I belive many teams still work with their old workflow, i.e. sending the pot files to somewhere, and coordinating efforts from their respective mailing lists. Cheers. -- Jorge González González Weblog: http://aloriel.no-ip.org Fotolog: http://www.flickr.com/photos/aloriel ___ gnome-i18n mailing list gnome-i18n@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-i18n
Re: RFE: Vertimus and assigned translator
El mar, 20-01-2009 a las 04:47 +0200, Gintautas Miliauskas escribió: > Hello, > > > The consistency matters, and > > I've difficulty understanding how real consistency could be maintained in an > > open group of volunteers where people are constantly changing the modules > > they translate. > > You need consistency not only within a single application, but across > the whole environment as well, so assigning people to modules only > solves half the problem. yes, you're right, but that's the work of reviewers, to make the translations of others consistent. Cheers. -- Jorge González González Weblog: http://aloriel.no-ip.org Fotolog: http://www.flickr.com/photos/aloriel ___ gnome-i18n mailing list gnome-i18n@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-i18n
