Re: RFC: compat list
Adam Williamson wrote: NVIDIA - GeForce and higher (I may be a bit out here; it may be GeForce 2 and higher). Except that newer cards aren't supported, like the GTS450: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=679538 Cheers, Robin ___ gnome-shell-list mailing list gnome-shell-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-shell-list
Re: Unity feature I'd like to see in Gnome-Shell
Why not have a setting for it? All users happy, no compromises done. On Tue, 03 May 2011 11:10:50 +0300, Allan E. Registos allan.regis...@smpc.steniel.com.ph wrote: On Tue, May 3, 2011 at 5:30 AM, John Stowers john.stowers.li...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, 2011-05-02 at 14:04 -0400, G. Michael Carter wrote: I just downloaded unity/Ubuntu 11.04 and was playing with it. One feature I really like is the application menu is in the top bar. (ie: the File Edit View Go Bookmarks Help) You mean the global menu? That horrible thing that confusingly appears/fades out when applications gain or lose focus and is on average, about 894 pixels from my mouse when working in an application? I certainly hope not. When your mental attitude is to access the application's menu on its own window, then I think the global menu is horrible as you've said. But the same argument can be applied when defending the usability of GNOME Shell, now for the global menu that if you train your mind that you have to access the application's menu at the top bar, then later on you will be comfortable with it since you are now used to it. The good thing about the global menu is it is very useful in smaller screens even smartphones, and that we can compromise larger screens for that matter. Imagine if you want to use a vanilla GNOME Shell on a tablet and think about the wasted space it gets just for the application menu. Regards, Allan ___ gnome-shell-list mailing list gnome-shell-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-shell-list
Re: Unity feature I'd like to see in Gnome-Shell
The main issue I've been seeing on this list is people with a 1920x1080 screen want it one way, and people with a 1024x600 or 960x640 screen want something else. I agree we need to make things like this optional (or even auto detect based on resolution). That is if we want Gnome-Shell to run on more than just the desktop with a big screen. On Tue, May 3, 2011 at 9:40 AM, Thanasis Georgiou saki...@gmx.com wrote: Why not have a setting for it? All users happy, no compromises done. ___ gnome-shell-list mailing list gnome-shell-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-shell-list
Re: Apps and Places Menu buttons for gnome shell.
Any way we can get this into the GIT area of the existing extensions? On Sun, May 1, 2011 at 2:03 PM, Vamsi Krishna Brahmajosyula vamsikrishna.brahmajosy...@gmail.com wrote: Hello all, I have tried to build a couple of extensions for the shell. Apps Menu and Places Menu buttons on the main panel. feel free to download them from http://pascal.iiit.ac.in/~vamsi/pub/gnome-shell/extensions/ Give a try and let me know if you have liked them or otherwise. ps: They are by no means a replacement for using 'Overview' to navigate. Personally I have big hopes for what can be done with Overview. Thanks Vamsi ___ gnome-shell-list mailing list gnome-shell-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-shell-list ___ gnome-shell-list mailing list gnome-shell-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-shell-list
Re: Unity feature I'd like to see in Gnome-Shell
On Tue, May 3, 2011 at 08:40, Thanasis Georgiou saki...@gmx.com wrote: Why not have a setting for it? All users happy, no compromises done. It's not in the design; we have an application-global menu proposal which has been in writing since 2009. Also, we do not add UI options and additional code paths for things which break applications or conflict with the rest of the design. ___ gnome-shell-list mailing list gnome-shell-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-shell-list
Re: Requiring GnomeDesktop, version none: Typelib file for namespace 'GnomeDesktop' (any version) not found
Hi i just used the way described in Setting up gnome-shell to run on login on https://live.gnome.org/GnomeShell and :~$ ps aux | grep shell phiamo 550 0.0 0.0 10560 1060 pts/0S+ 17:28 0:00 grep --color=auto shell phiamo 32040 0.0 0.2 75092 10268 ?S17:27 0:00 /usr/bin/python /opt/gnome-shell/install/bin/gnome-shell phiamo 32047 3.8 1.3 838308 52404 ?Sl 17:27 0:01 /opt/gnome-shell/install/bin/gnome-shell-real phiamo 32115 0.0 0.1 179884 6480 ?Sl 17:27 0:00 /opt/gnome-shell/install/libexec/gnome-shell-calendar-server tells me i am working with the right installation anyways now if i try uning xrandr i get a full crash, if the extension is there why login i get an oops something went wrong try again thing and it cashed. i cant really find a log about the crash so this might not be very helpful. so i assume for the next days/weeks this wont be on a high prio. So i will try playing around to get the feature i think about. Cheers Philipp 2011/5/3 Giovanni Campagna scampa.giova...@gmail.com Il giorno mar, 03/05/2011 alle 17.10 +0200, Philipp Mohrenweiser ha scritto: 2011/5/3 Giovanni Campagna scampa.giova...@gmail.com Il giorno mar, 03/05/2011 alle 11.59 +0200, Philipp Mohrenweiser ha scritto: This shown as an error when tring to load xrandr-indica...@gnome-shell-extensions.gnome.org in looking glass. I have also seen this when playing around with gjs but dont remember what exactly. Using xrandr-indicator in 3.0.* won't work, the required patch in gjs was not merged. It will fail with a different error (Really, I should remove it from the stable branch, but probably it is too late.) So xrandr-indicator wont be usable at all !? Thats a pity wanted to extend it a bit an play around. Could you briefly describe why its not working anymore i would love to se how it was It requires null-terminated array support from gjs (bug 634253). It has never really worked, just I forgot having that patch applied to gjs and left it in stable. (Also, it requires bug 643620 + a fix to ClutterX11 depending on that for actually applying the settings). I am using 3.0.1 from a manual build i started last night. Someone told me i have to enable gobject-introspection for gnome-desktop package, but i cant find info howto do that. If thats right could you point me on that, or else tell me what i am doing wrong? If you're building from jhbuild, it should be enabled, and if not file a bug. (You can fix it manually by editing the moduleset and adding --enable-introspection to the autogenargs of gnome-desktop) Otherwise, file a bug at your distribution. Yeahr i think it is built with introspection but i am not sure if it works: a ./gnome-shell --replace from builddir/gnome-shell/src gives me :/opt/gnome-shell/source/gnome-shell$ ./src/gnome-shell --replace JS ERROR: !!! Exception was: Error: Requiring NetworkManager, version none: Typelib file for namespace 'NetworkManager' (any version) not found JS ERROR: !!! lineNumber = '0' JS ERROR: !!! fileName = 'gjs_throw' JS ERROR: !!! stack = '(Requiring NetworkManager, version none: Typelib file for namespace 'NetworkManager' (any version) not found)@gjs_throw:0 @/opt/gnome-shell/source/gnome-shell/js/ui/status/network.js:8 ' JS ERROR: !!! message = 'Requiring NetworkManager, version none: Typelib file for namespace 'NetworkManager' (any version) not found' JS LOG: NMApplet is not supported. It is possible that your NetworkManager version is too old Fensterverwalter-Warnung:Log level 16: Unable to register authentication agent: GDBus.Error:org.freedesktop.PolicyKit1.Error.Failed: An authentication agent already exists for the given subject Fensterverwalter-Warnung:Log level 16: Error registering polkit authentication agent: GDBus.Error:org.freedesktop.PolicyKit1.Error.Failed: An authentication agent already exists for the given subject (polkit-error-quark 0) JS LOG: GNOME Shell started at Tue May 03 2011 17:04:54 GMT+0200 (CEST) Anyways it seems to be the started shell running (I have gnome-shell installed by ppa before and i am using it so difference between ppa 3.0.1 and self compiled 3.0.1 arent so clear for me :D ) You should use jhbuild run gnome-shell --replace, not plain gnome-shell --replace (and no, you should not run it uninstalled). Anyway those errors are expected and cause no harm. Giovanni ___ gnome-shell-list mailing list gnome-shell-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-shell-list
Re: RFC: compat list
On Tue, 2011-05-03 at 12:48 +0200, Robin Stocker wrote: Adam Williamson wrote: NVIDIA - GeForce and higher (I may be a bit out here; it may be GeForce 2 and higher). Except that newer cards aren't supported, like the GTS450: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=679538 Ah, right - that should read 'All GeForce cards up to GeForce 300 series', I guess. I forgot about the issues with 400 and 500. There's a legal issue relating to firmware for those. -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA Community Monkey IRC: adamw | Fedora Talk: adamwill AT fedoraproject DOT org http://www.happyassassin.net ___ gnome-shell-list mailing list gnome-shell-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-shell-list
Re: on suspend
On Tue, May 3, 2011 at 2:31 AM, Olav Vitters o...@vitters.nl wrote: On Mon, May 02, 2011 at 03:09:38PM -0400, Jesse Hutton wrote: Suspend works great for me on my laptop. On my desktop, however, my graphics card (FireGL 5200) fan spins up to high speed on resume (as it does briefly while booting the system) and never slows down to normal speed. So, I have to reboot anyway to quiet the fan down. Could you file a bug with your distribution regarding this? Only presenting 'Suspend' seems like a bizarre UI choice, given that it does not just work across all systems that Gnome Shell is targeting. It will only show Suspend if the system says it supports suspend. System should detect suspend doesn't work and not advertise the ability to suspend. IMO menu should still stay poweroff as you could just close the lid for suspend.. but doesn't matter for the argument: system (kernel or whatever) should not advertise suspend if it doesn't work For me suspend works.. I can successfully suspend.. It's coming out of suspend that cause a problem. In which case, even though suspend work, re-animation is broken. So it needs to detect both parts. For me I think it's some kind of problem with my disk (SSD) and not the usual graphics driver. sri ___ gnome-shell-list mailing list gnome-shell-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-shell-list
Re: on suspend
On Tue, May 03, 2011 at 10:59:58AM -0700, Sriram Ramkrishna wrote: For me suspend works.. I can successfully suspend.. It's coming out of suspend that cause a problem. In which case, even though suspend work, re-animation is broken. So it needs to detect both parts. For me I think it's some kind of problem with my disk (SSD) and not the usual graphics driver. I meant that: Only say suspend works if the whole thing works. E.g. When going to suspend, set some flag somewhere and sync it to disk. When coming out of suspend, remove the flag. Now when booting, check if the flag is set. If so, ask to/disable suspend. Then the whole UI will automatically adjust because it will know suspend is broken. -- Regards, Olav ___ gnome-shell-list mailing list gnome-shell-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-shell-list
Instant Message notifications
Not sure if this is gnome-shell or gnome3, but, I was wondering how I can enable some sort of notification (eg blinking icon, red exlamation mark... something) letting me know there are messages. I know one of the design goals is reduce distractions, but, in my line of work these distractions are critical. We communicate via IM and I'm not always looking at the screen to catch the very quick notification at the bottom of the screen. -- *Green Tackle* - *Environmentally Friendly Fishing Tackle* www.GreenTackle.com http://www.greentackle.com Email: mi...@greentackle.com Phone: 971.270.2206 Toll Free: 877.580.9165 Fax: 503.946.3106 ___ gnome-shell-list mailing list gnome-shell-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-shell-list
Re: Instant Message notifications
It would be really nice if there will be some global notification in top panel (something like ubuntu's indicators). Sometimes I didn't see if someone wrote me and it's crucial sometime. Would be here some good soul to make some extension for this? Micah Carrick píše v Út 03. 05. 2011 v 14:56 -0700: Not sure if this is gnome-shell or gnome3, but, I was wondering how I can enable some sort of notification (eg blinking icon, red exlamation mark... something) letting me know there are messages. I know one of the design goals is reduce distractions, but, in my line of work these distractions are critical. We communicate via IM and I'm not always looking at the screen to catch the very quick notification at the bottom of the screen. -- Green Tackle - Environmentally Friendly Fishing Tackle www.GreenTackle.com Email: mi...@greentackle.com Phone: 971.270.2206 Toll Free: 877.580.9165 Fax: 503.946.3106 ___ gnome-shell-list mailing list gnome-shell-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-shell-list ___ gnome-shell-list mailing list gnome-shell-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-shell-list
Re: on suspend
On Tue, May 3, 2011 at 2:16 PM, Olav Vitters o...@vitters.nl wrote: On Tue, May 03, 2011 at 10:59:58AM -0700, Sriram Ramkrishna wrote: For me suspend works.. I can successfully suspend.. It's coming out of suspend that cause a problem. In which case, even though suspend work, re-animation is broken. So it needs to detect both parts. For me I think it's some kind of problem with my disk (SSD) and not the usual graphics driver. I meant that: Only say suspend works if the whole thing works. E.g. When going to suspend, set some flag somewhere and sync it to disk. When coming out of suspend, remove the flag. Now when booting, check if the flag is set. If so, ask to/disable suspend. Then the whole UI will automatically adjust because it will know suspend is broken. -- Regards, Olav That still wouldn't work for some cases, including mine: my desktop resumes, but the fan noise is intolerable until I reboot. Why is Gnome Shell relying so heavily on something that is notoriously difficult to make work across a wide array of hardware configurations? And why discourage shutting down to begin with? It saves power and booting is getting faster all the time anyway... Jesse ___ gnome-shell-list mailing list gnome-shell-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-shell-list
Re: Designing Finding and Reminding
On Tue, May 3, 2011 at 3:38 PM, Federico Mena Quintero feder...@gnome.orgwrote: * Web pages. There are just too many of them in a single day! Gnome-activity-journal helped here by grouping them in an expandable item, N web pages, rather than showing all the crap you visited during a day. An alternative would be to add an explicit log this page button to Firefox, or something. One of the things we need to think of soon is the immediacy of the journal. Having Windows / Applications / Past Activities in the shell's Overview is just too clunky. Seif posted to the list with his idea to move those three actions to the shell's top panel, thus replacing the Activities button. I quite like that idea; it removes one level of indirection from the things you do the most, and it gives you present (windows), past activities (the work you did, the journal) and future activities which you might do (applications), *right there* in the main panel. What about privacy? Maybe certain activities you don't want showing up.. for instance, if you're at a conference you don't want people behind you knowing what you were looking at. That kind of thing? Respecting private browsing mode on browser is one method. There might be other ways to respect that. Domain based filtering as well. Clearly, I don't want my boss to know that I've been busy at www.gnome.org during work hours and so forth. sri ___ gnome-shell-list mailing list gnome-shell-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-shell-list
Re: Designing Finding and Reminding
On Tue, May 3, 2011 at 6:38 PM, Federico Mena Quintero feder...@gnome.org wrote: The infrastructure for the journal is of course the Zeitgeist engine and its data loggers. If we're modifying applications, the focus should be on adding API to GTK+ to accommodate whatever it is the design calls for. In this case, GtkRecentManager seems like a good fit. ___ gnome-shell-list mailing list gnome-shell-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-shell-list
Re: Designing Finding and Reminding
Message original Objet : Re: Designing Finding and Reminding De : Korbé ko...@romandie.com À : Sriram Ramkrishna s...@ramkrishna.me Cc : It's right. We need, of curse, a privacy respect methode. For exemple: - An entry in the Application Menu (in the top panel of GS) nammed Forget thisvactivity or a button in the title bar of the window. When you choose it, the system don't record what you do. - Crypte the database of this Big Journal like with the password database of Seahorse. Then, if a people can get it from your hard drive (or SSD), he can't extract any informations. - Gendre Sébastien ___ gnome-shell-list mailing list gnome-shell-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-shell-list
Re: on suspend
On Wednesday, 04 May, 2011 07:05 AM, Jesse Hutton wrote: Why is Gnome Shell relying so heavily on something that is notoriously difficult to make work across a wide array of hardware configurations? The developers and designers must have their reasons, but I have the same question as you have. Only Microsoft and Apple have valid reasons to do _something_ like this since: Apple owned their hardware Microsoft will expect computer manufacturers to bundle their hardware with drivers _out_of_the_box_. We cannot expect computer manufacturers to support all versions of the Linux kernel at the same time. So power management like Suspend won't work across the board. Regards, Allan ___ gnome-shell-list mailing list gnome-shell-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-shell-list
Re: issues under Ubuntu
I have to agree. Using Gnome-Shell and Ubuntu is really a pain in the ... Don't get me wrong, I loved all the Ubuntu releases so far, but this one ... Since when can't we choose the desktop of our choice ? That's the main reason why I am using linux : choice. If I don't get that ... then I'll move to F15 :) On Mon, 2011-05-02 at 15:35 -0500, Jason D. Clinton wrote: On Mon, May 2, 2011 at 15:17, Koppányi Tamás kornena...@gmail.com wrote: Can somebody please help me how to solve these issues? Please do not use GNOME 3 on Ubuntu 11.04. That is the only solution which would be worth investing your time in. Perhaps the next release will have better GNOME 3 integration which doesn't conflict with the base system. ___ gnome-shell-list mailing list gnome-shell-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-shell-list attachment: face-smile.png___ gnome-shell-list mailing list gnome-shell-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-shell-list
Re: issues under Ubuntu
On Wednesday, 04 May, 2011 08:50 AM, Cyril Arnaud wrote: I have to agree. Using Gnome-Shell and Ubuntu is really a pain in the ... It is expected. Ubuntu officially does not yet support GNOME Shell AFAIK. Don't get me wrong, I loved all the Ubuntu releases so far, but this one ... Since when can't we choose the desktop of our choice ? That's the main reason why I am using linux : choice. If I don't get that ... then I'll move to F15 Yes, you are exactly exercising your rights to make that choice. Ubuntu was just exactly doing that and made their home to Unity. For the meantime, F15 is the best way to go, second I think is OpenSUSE if you need GNOME Shell badly. Regards, Allan ___ gnome-shell-list mailing list gnome-shell-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-shell-list
Re: issues under Ubuntu
On Wed, 2011-05-04 at 09:22 +0800, Allan E. Registos wrote: Yes, you are exactly exercising your rights to make that choice. Ubuntu was just exactly doing that and made their home to Unity. For the meantime, F15 is the best way to go, second I think is OpenSUSE if you need GNOME Shell badly. Running GNOME 3 on openSUSE 11.4 using the repo; it is working pretty well. http://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:GNOME_3.0 ___ gnome-shell-list mailing list gnome-shell-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-shell-list
Re: Designing Finding and Reminding
On Tue, 2011-05-03 at 16:24 -0700, Sriram Ramkrishna wrote: What about privacy? Maybe certain activities you don't want showing up.. for instance, if you're at a conference you don't want people behind you knowing what you were looking at. That kind of thing? Respecting private browsing mode on browser is one method. There might be other ways to respect that. Domain based filtering as well. Clearly, I don't want my boss to know that I've been busy at www.gnome.org during work hours and so forth. I think we can distinguish two cases: 1. Not wanting some things to be logged at all. 2. Having things logged, but not wanting casual observers to see that you did something in the past. The first case is probably easier. During private browsing, the browser can simply avoid logging its pages in Zeitgeist. You can also have a blacklist. In short - it's easy in principle to ensure that something is not logged - you either don't log it, or you filter it out before it gets logged. The Zeitgeist hackers were recently working on a blacklist manager. I don't know all the details; you'll do better in asking them. The second case needs to be done carefully. If we had taggable files, we could let you keep files with certain tags from being shown - like the default Hidden tag in F-spot for your furniture pictures. It may be easy enough to hide web pages even if they are not tagged; Zeitgeist already knows that they came from a web browser. I think, for now, we should only concentrate on the first case - ensuring that unwanted things don't get logged. The second case is, in a way, *already* a problem - if someone peeks over your shoulder while you read your mail, well, you may have a problem. In the Zeitgeist development list, I posted about privacy a while ago - http://lists.zeitgeist-project.com/pipermail/dev/2011-March/000210.html - you may want to take a look. One idea I'm kind of liking is this (quoting from that mail): Another, more sophisticated thing would be to have apps actually notify the user when they log something, as unobtrusively as possible. Say I open an image in EOG and it shows Saved ~/Pr0n/deine-mudda.jpg in your journal in the status bar, along with a button remove this from the journal). That may be overkill; I'm not sure; and if g-a-j allows easy sanitization it may not be needed at all. But it would probably give some people peace of mind if they knew *what* is being logged as soon as it happens. (Another idea is to have a ~/Private from which things never get logged. Again, see more ideas in that mail.) Federico ___ gnome-shell-list mailing list gnome-shell-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-shell-list
Re: Designing Finding and Reminding
On Wed, 2011-05-04 at 01:46 +0200, Korbé wrote: - An entry in the Application Menu (in the top panel of GS) nammed Forget thisvactivity or a button in the title bar of the window. When you choose it, the system don't record what you do. See my mail to Sri; I put in a similar example referring to EOG. - Crypte the database of this Big Journal like with the password database of Seahorse. Then, if a people can get it from your hard drive (or SSD), he can't extract any informations. This is doable, but I'm not sure it is worth it. If the attacker already got hold of your hard drive or your account, he may as well examine your files directly. Once he goes into ~/Pictures/Hot, you have already lost - the attacker doesn't even need to parse your event log. (Solution - if you are worried, encrypt your $HOME.) Federico ___ gnome-shell-list mailing list gnome-shell-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-shell-list
Re: Instant Message notifications
i am also really hoping that developers wouldfix this. also it would be great if there was better integration for empathy. right now the notification bar icon of empathy is barely cliackable (only the icon, not the text), and while the chat windows stay on the notification bar, but they have no sign that there might be new messages. last time i complained about this i got a reply that after being away from the computer for some time, the notification bar comes up to show you if there was something happening. while this is good, but since empathy windows look all the same if there was something happening or if not, i have to look through each icon manually (click them one by one, since mouseover also doesn't show anything). now this is even a bigger distraction, since because i'm affraid i'll miss some essages, i keep checking the messaging windows constantly, instead of focusing on my work. what i'd suggest, if you want to keep the notification bar, is that there could be an icon in the hot corner (and preferably move that hot corner to the botom left corner, so that it wouldn't interfere with the scrollbars of maximized windows), something like the plasmoid hot corner of kde ( http://fedoraproject.org/w/uploads/a/a0/Kde_plasma.jpg), only smaller. it could have some blinking icon, or some exclamation mark, or whatever. there could be some nice animation that the pop-up messages on the bottom slide towards the hot corner, and merge with this icon. but on top of this, there should be some indication for the icons of the notification bar that there is something happening, a halo, a dot, or something. On 4 May 2011 00:39, Micah Carrick mi...@greentackle.com wrote: I actually love the idea of unobtrusive notifications, however, if I miss get instant message from my boss that says our website is down, I need to make sure I don't miss that message. I was hoping there was a setting to allow messages from certain contexts (empathy) to remain visible until dismissed. On Tue, May 3, 2011 at 3:12 PM, Michal Orlik orli...@gmail.com wrote: It would be really nice if there will be some global notification in top panel (something like ubuntu's indicators). Sometimes I didn't see if someone wrote me and it's crucial sometime. Would be here some good soul to make some extension for this? Micah Carrick píše v Út 03. 05. 2011 v 14:56 -0700: Not sure if this is gnome-shell or gnome3, but, I was wondering how I can enable some sort of notification (eg blinking icon, red exlamation mark... something) letting me know there are messages. I know one of the design goals is reduce distractions, but, in my line of work these distractions are critical. We communicate via IM and I'm not always looking at the screen to catch the very quick notification at the bottom of the screen. ___ gnome-shell-list mailing list gnome-shell-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-shell-list
Re: issues under Ubuntu
Running GNOME 3 on openSUSE 11.4 using the repo; it is working pretty well. that't also what i am considering at the moment: dumping ubuntu and moving over to opensuse. tht way i can get a rolling distribution (tumbleweed), and a working gnome-shell at the same time. don't know if i should wait for linux mint 11, they say it will have gnome3 integration, and the shell installable from repo. ___ gnome-shell-list mailing list gnome-shell-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-shell-list
Re: Instant Message notifications
On Wed, May 4, 2011 at 1:40 AM, Koppányi Tamás kornena...@gmail.com wrote: i am also really hoping that developers wouldfix this. also it would be great if there was better integration for empathy. right now the notification bar icon of empathy is barely cliackable (only the icon, not the text) This is a GTK+ bug which has been fixed. Additionally, we're trying to have the Shell be more of a native client for Telepathy rather than a set of hacks that were incorrect according to spec (observers technically shouldn't send messages, etc.), but worked anyway. and while the chat windows stay on the notification bar, but they have no sign that there might be new messages. Making the Shell play nicer with Telepathy can help everybody... we can ACK messages too! Additionally, I think we're going to try to implement the little starburst counter for Telepathy messages: http://git.gnome.org/browse/gnome-shell-design/plain/mockups/static/notifications-summary.png I may see if I can get a starburst counter working tonight, after I'm done finishing up some other patches. last time i complained about this i got a reply that after being away from the computer for some time, the notification bar comes up to show you if there was something happening. while this is good, but since empathy windows look all the same if there was something happening or if not, i have to look through each icon manually (click them one by one, since mouseover also doesn't show anything). now this is even a bigger distraction, since because i'm affraid i'll miss some essages, i keep checking the messaging windows constantly, instead of focusing on my work. what i'd suggest, if you want to keep the notification bar, is that there could be an icon in the hot corner (and preferably move that hot corner to the botom left corner, so that it wouldn't interfere with the scrollbars of maximized windows), something like the plasmoid hot corner of kde ( http://fedoraproject.org/w/uploads/a/a0/Kde_plasma.jpg), only smaller. it could have some blinking icon, or some exclamation mark, or whatever. there could be some nice animation that the pop-up messages on the bottom slide towards the hot corner, and merge with this icon. but on top of this, there should be some indication for the icons of the notification bar that there is something happening, a halo, a dot, or something. On 4 May 2011 00:39, Micah Carrick mi...@greentackle.com wrote: I actually love the idea of unobtrusive notifications, however, if I miss get instant message from my boss that says our website is down, I need to make sure I don't miss that message. I was hoping there was a setting to allow messages from certain contexts (empathy) to remain visible until dismissed. On Tue, May 3, 2011 at 3:12 PM, Michal Orlik orli...@gmail.com wrote: It would be really nice if there will be some global notification in top panel (something like ubuntu's indicators). Sometimes I didn't see if someone wrote me and it's crucial sometime. Would be here some good soul to make some extension for this? Micah Carrick píše v Út 03. 05. 2011 v 14:56 -0700: Not sure if this is gnome-shell or gnome3, but, I was wondering how I can enable some sort of notification (eg blinking icon, red exlamation mark... something) letting me know there are messages. I know one of the design goals is reduce distractions, but, in my line of work these distractions are critical. We communicate via IM and I'm not always looking at the screen to catch the very quick notification at the bottom of the screen. ___ gnome-shell-list mailing list gnome-shell-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-shell-list ___ gnome-shell-list mailing list gnome-shell-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-shell-list
