Re: [GNC] new to Gnucash - help with general information

[Geoff]

You make a good point Fred, and I have seen people on this list who keep 
their GnuCash data in the cloud too.


Although this changes the risk profile, it does not eliminate the need 
for a backup system.


Regards

Geoff
=

On 12/09/2022 5:07 am, Fred Bone wrote:

On 11 September 2022 at 9:59, Michael or Penny Novack said:




5.  Geoff is also correct here that gnucash saves backup so you don't
lose data, but backuping up to another media is always a good idea.


And asking this question "how do I back-up my gnucash data?" implies a
more serious misunderstanding about using your computer. It isn't just
just gnucash data that needs to be backed up but ALL your user data. And
if you have adopted a plan to back up ALL your user data, gnucash data
would be included in that, so no need to have a back-up plan specific to
gnucash.


You do realise that these days many people do all their email via
webmail, and all their word processing, spreadsheets and so on on Google
Docs or suchlike "in the cloud", and may find that Gnucash is the only
application that keeps their data locally?


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Re: [GNC] Pre-Payments into Liabilities

[Gyle McCollam]

Vance,  yes in any accounting system a negative asset,  in this case a 
receivable, is a liability. Leaving it as a negarive receivable where it will 
offset future invoices is OK.



Sent from Samsung Galaxy smartphone.



 Original message 
From: Vance Turnewitsch via gnucash-user 
Date: 9/11/22 6:51 PM (GMT-05:00)
To: gnucash-user@gnucash.org
Subject: [GNC] Pre-Payments into Liabilities

Hello,
I use GnuCash for a small school. One of our parents paid their entire tuition 
amount at the beginning of the year. I have been fiddling with how to record 
this.

We bill monthly; therefore, for the payment that doesn't have a receivable yet, 
shouldn't it go into a liability account? Using the "Process Payment" dialog 
results in an accounts receivable with a negative balance. This seems odd to 
me, but it has been some time since I took accounting. In GnuCash's system, is 
an accounts receivable with a negative balance akin to a liability?

Thanks,
Vance

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Re: [GNC] Pre-Payments into Liabilities

[Stan Brown]

On 2022-09-11 15:51, Vance Turnewitsch via gnucash-user wrote:
> I use GnuCash for a small school. One of our parents paid their entire 
> tuition amount at the beginning of the year. I have been fiddling with how to 
> record this.
> 
> We bill monthly; therefore, for the payment that doesn't have a receivable 
> yet, shouldn't it go into a liability account? Using the "Process Payment" 
> dialog results in an accounts receivable with a negative balance. This seems 
> odd to me, but it has been some time since I took accounting. In GnuCash's 
> system, is an accounts receivable with a negative balance akin to a liability?

Hi, Vance!

A useful way to answer questions like this is to ask yourself, "What
would I do if I were doing all my bookkeeping with pen and ink in one of
those huge ledger books?" Once you've answered that question, you can
then take up the question of "How would I accomplish that in Gnucash?"
but usually once you answer the first question then the second one is
obvious.

Have you ever overpaid a bill? The next month they send you a statement
showing a negative balance, right? I see no reason why you couldn't have
a negative balance in an account receivable. (Your bill is a liability
to you, but it's a receivable to your supplier, and they don't have a
problem with a negative receivable.) And one benefit of Keeping
everything in a normal receivable account is that when you accrue the
tuition for all the students, you don't have to do anything different
for _this_ student: the tuition will simply reduce the negative amount.

On the other hand, I would not create a liability account because (1)
you are then treating this student's accounting differently from every
other student's, both when recording this prepayment _and_ when
recording tuition accrued; and (2) liability accounts are almost always
for things you expect to have to pay off eventually.

That's how I would treat this transaction. I'm not an accountant. But I
suspect pretty strongly that nobody will give you any grief about which
way you handle it, as long as any reports or statements of parent
account that you generate make sense.

Stan Brown
Tehachapi, CA, USA
https://BrownMath.com
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[GNC] Pre-Payments into Liabilities

[Vance Turnewitsch via gnucash-user]

Hello,
I use GnuCash for a small school. One of our parents paid their entire tuition 
amount at the beginning of the year. I have been fiddling with how to record 
this.

We bill monthly; therefore, for the payment that doesn't have a receivable yet, 
shouldn't it go into a liability account? Using the "Process Payment" dialog 
results in an accounts receivable with a negative balance. This seems odd to 
me, but it has been some time since I took accounting. In GnuCash's system, is 
an accounts receivable with a negative balance akin to a liability?

Thanks,
Vance

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Re: [GNC] Opening Gnucash

[Richard Clarkson via gnucash-user]

Greg

Thank you!

As I mentioned GnuCash 4.9, Windows 11 (64 bit). Have tried opening from
apps, from shortcut, directly from the GnuCash.exe in bin. I cannot open
GnuCash from any version higher than 4.9. I see a circle for a few seconds
while windows is try to open GnuCash and then nothing. I've tried opening
from PowerShell too.

Is there any way of seeing where the exe is getting stuck or if something is
missing or if I need to update anything?

I'm either go to have to stay on 4.9 or change to another program.

Thanks you for your help.

RIchard

-Original Message-
From: gnucash-user
 On Behalf Of
Greg Feneis
Sent: 11 September 2022 14:59
To: gnucash-user@gnucash.org
Subject: Re: [GNC] Opening Gnucash

Richard,

You may want to provide a few more details.  Perhaps mention the version of
GnuCash you're using, which OS you're using.  How do you open GnuCash, by
starting the application or by clicking on a saved file?  And so on.

Kind regards,

Greg Feneis




On Sat, Sep 10, 2022 at 6:36 AM Richard Barmann  wrote:

> When IO open Gnucash to make some entries in the checking account It 
> opens a page from the past. How can I open the latest page with the 
> entries up to date.
>
> Richard Barmann
>
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Re: [GNC] Problems upgrading to 4.8a

[Geert Janssens]

Op zaterdag 10 september 2022 19:49:52 CEST schreef Phil Wolff:
> On 9/10/22 08:34, Geert Janssens wrote:
> That is really odd and again suggesting your gnucash is not configured as
> per default. We'll have to find out where this comes from...
> 
> Can you provide the result of commands
> 
> alias gnucash
> type gnucash
> ls -l $(type gnucash)
> 
> dellbert@dellbert:~$ alias gnucash
> bash: alias: gnucash: not found
> dellbert@dellbert:~$ type gnucash
> gnucash is /usr/bin/gnucash
> dellbert@dellbert:~$ ls -l $(type gnucash)
> ls: cannot access 'gnucash': No such file or directory
> ls: cannot access 'is': No such file or directory
> -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 142088 Feb  9  2022 /usr/bin/gnucash
> 

Ok, these were to ensure our basic assumption is correct. You're effectively 
running /usr/bin/
gnucash and not some alias or link to another location.

> Also can you start gnucash once as follows:
> 
> gnucash --log "gnc.app-utils=debug"
> 
> You can leave out the name to your data file. It will reduce the amount of
> messages in the trace file.
> 
> After having run, can you filter the trace file for messages coming from
> gnc.app-utils and post them here?
> 
> That's a way to find out where gnucash looks for the config-user.scm file...
> 
> Filtering reduced line count from 943 to 815 
> 

I'm sorry about that. I could have asked to filter more aggressively (but it 
was very late here 
when I wrote my last mail). This is the info I was looking for:

> [gfec_try_load] looking for /etc/gnucash/config * 09:00:08 DEBUG
> 
> 
> [gfec_try_load] looking for /home/dellbert/.config/gnucash/config-user.scm
> * 09:00:08 DEBUG
> 
> 
> [gfec_try_load] trying to load
> /home/dellbert/.config/gnucash/config-user.scm * 09:00:08 DEBUG
>   
> 

These lines show that the config-user.scm file is found. No idea why this 
wouldn't print the 
value of XDG_DATA_DIRS to your gnucash trace file. But if needed we can debug 
that later. 
Let's first follow the other possible clue below.



> 
> As these early queries fail, no migration is started. And in general
> considering most queries fail, I think no preferences are ever kept across
> gnucash restarts. You could experiment with this by setting a preference to
> non-default in gnucash. Restart gnucash and check the preference again ?
> 
> I've done that - any changes I make are lost on a restart.
> 

Ok, that confirms gnucash has an issue with finding settings schemas in some 
way.

> And if so can you use the command
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Re: [GNC] Closing Gnucash

[Gyle McCollam]

gnucash reopens the same file that you last closed, unless you do a file open 
and select a different file.


Thank You,

Gyle McCollam

Gyle McCollam

gmccol...@live.com   email


From: gnucash-user  on 
behalf of Richard Barmann 
Sent: Sunday, September 11, 2022 3:39 PM
To: gnucash-user@gnucash.org 
Subject: [GNC] Closing Gnucash

How can I close Gnucash so I can reopen it with then correct up to date
file .

Richard Barmann

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[GNC] Closing Gnucash

[Richard Barmann]

How can I close Gnucash so I can reopen it with then correct up to date 
file .


Richard Barmann

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Re: [GNC] new to Gnucash - help with general information

[Fred Bone]

On 11 September 2022 at 9:59, Michael or Penny Novack said:

> 
> >5.  Geoff is also correct here that gnucash saves backup so you don't
> >lose data, but backuping up to another media is always a good idea.
> >
> And asking this question "how do I back-up my gnucash data?" implies a
> more serious misunderstanding about using your computer. It isn't just
> just gnucash data that needs to be backed up but ALL your user data. And
> if you have adopted a plan to back up ALL your user data, gnucash data
> would be included in that, so no need to have a back-up plan specific to
> gnucash.

You do realise that these days many people do all their email via 
webmail, and all their word processing, spreadsheets and so on on Google 
Docs or suchlike "in the cloud", and may find that Gnucash is the only 
application that keeps their data locally?


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Re: [GNC] Color of register placeholder text and hiding register header

[Glenn Fowler]

I found this will change the input text color:

gnc-id-cursor entry {
  color: green;
}

...and it works but it gets overridden whenever you change
*.gnc-class-register-cursor color but not sure why.

As for the header I'm not sure how you would completely remove that. I'm
assuming that would be in the code and not just CSS.

On Sun, Sep 11, 2022 at 1:08 PM chandler  wrote:

> Glenn Fowler wrote on 9/11/22 09:28:
> > /* register blank transaction placeholder text */
> >
> > *.gnc-class-register-cursor {
> >color: purple;
> > }
>
> Unfortunately not quite.  This makes both the placeholder and entered text
> purple.  In the built-in color theme, the placeholder text is gray and
> italic, while entered text black and without effects.  Is there a file in
> the source code somewhere defining all the built-in color values?  The
> answer might be in there
>
>
> > /* register header */
> >
> > *.gnc-class-register-header {
> >background-color: #a8b8bf;
> >color: black;
> > }
> >
> > You could make the text and background in the header the same color to
> hide it.
>
> The header would still be there though, covering up entries in the
> register.  My goal is to get rid of this header altogether so I can see
> more of the register...
>
>
>
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[GNC] gnucash 4.11 truncates trailing zeroes in Price Database

[rsbrux via gnucash-user]

Meanwhile I have upgraded to GC 4.11 running as a Flatpak under Ubuntu 
Studio 22.04.1. The reported problem with truncation of trailing zeroes 
after the decimal point in the Reconcile dialog appears to be fixed in 
this version. However, I now have a similar problem with the Price 
Database dialog, as reported by David below. I liked it better when all 
price entries displayed with the same number of places after the decimal 
point. Is there a way to get this behaviour back?


-Original Message-
From: rsbrux 
Sent: Sunday, September 4, 2022 7:38 AM
To: 'gnucash-user@gnucash.org' 
Subject: Re: gnucash reconcile doesn't respect "Decimal places"

Thanks to all who responded!

@Adrien



3.11 or 4.11? 4.11 is the current version.
<<
3.11. I realize that 4.11 is the current version, but I have just 
migrated from 2.6.19 and want to make sure everything is working 
correctly before taking the next step.
The GC wiki gave me the impression that 3.11 is still supported, but I 
can live with this until I upgrade to 4.11.


Do you happen to have Preferences > Numbers, Date, Time > Numbers > 
'Automatic Decimal Point' checked by any chance? If so, it might be 
dropping '.00'

<<
I have tried both settings; it doesn't make a difference.

@David


This seems to be similar to the behaviour of displayed prices in the 
Price Database - dp doesn't line up as it always truncates prices on the 
right of the decimal point to the last non zero digit regardless of the 
? Currently running 4.11 but it's been like this for as long as I can 
remember.

<<
Odd: my price database always shows 6 figures after the decimal point in 
3.11, even if the last 4 are zeroes. IIRC, this was also the case in 2.6.19.


@Geoff


That is not my experience with version 4.8 on Windows 10 - see attached 
screenshot.

<<
Your screenshot looks like what I used to get in 2.6.19. I guess the 
next step is to upgrade to 4.x


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Re: [GNC] Color of register placeholder text and hiding register header

[Glenn Fowler]

/* register blank transaction placeholder text */

*.gnc-class-register-cursor {
  color: purple;
}


/* register header */

*.gnc-class-register-header {
  background-color: #a8b8bf;
  color: black;
}

You could make the text and background in the header the same color to hide
it.


On Sun, Sep 11, 2022 at 3:41 AM chandler via gnucash-user <
gnucash-user@gnucash.org> wrote:

> Hey all, I'm using Gnucash 4.11 on Linux and trying to get the coloring of
> the register to my liking.  I'm using ~/.config/gnucash/gtk-3.0.css for the
> settings.
>
> I haven't yet figured out how to change the color of the placeholder text
> that shows up when the cursor is not in that textbox.  That is the
> gray-colored italic "Num" "Description" "Notes" indicated by the red arrow
> in the attached Screenshot.
>
> I tried using the GTK+ Inspector to try and find this value, but I can't
> seem to find any of the entries in gtk-3.0.css in the GTK Inspector, any
> idea how to properly use it?
>
> Also I would like to disable/hide the top header in the register (outlined
> by the blue border in the Screenshot), is there anyway to do that?
>
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Re: [GNC] More UI downgrades

[Geert Janssens]

Op zondag 11 september 2022 02:22:34 CEST schreef Geoff:
> In the reconciliation window, as you observed, SPACE will select /
> deselect the current transaction, but not move to the next transaction.
>   As Gyle mentioned, using Ctrl-A and SPACE makes for a very speedy
> reconciliation.
> 

All common keyboard selection methods are available in these lists.
Besides Ctrl-A to select all, perhaps using Shift-ArrowDown can also be useful 
to select 
a multiple splits (each Shift-ArrowDown will add one split to the selection) 
and then 
press SPACE to mark those as reconciled.

Regards,

Geert
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Re: [GNC] Opening Gnucash

[Greg Feneis]

Richard,

You may want to provide a few more details.  Perhaps mention the version of
GnuCash you're using, which OS you're using.  How do you open GnuCash, by
starting the application or by clicking on a saved file?  And so on.

Kind regards,

Greg Feneis




On Sat, Sep 10, 2022 at 6:36 AM Richard Barmann  wrote:

> When IO open Gnucash to make some entries in the checking account It
> opens a page from the past. How can I open the latest page with the
> entries up to date.
>
> Richard Barmann
>
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Re: [GNC] new to Gnucash - help with general information

[Michael or Penny Novack]

   5.  Geoff is also correct here that gnucash saves backup so you don't lose 
data, but backuping up to another media is always a good idea.

And asking this question "how do I back-up my gnucash data?" implies a 
more serious misunderstanding about using your computer. It isn't just 
just gnucash data that needs to be backed up but ALL your user data. And 
if you have adopted a plan to back up ALL your user data, gnucash data 
would be included in that, so no need to have a back-up plan specific to 
gnucash.


It is not a matter of IF your hard drive or entire computer will fail 
but WHEN that will happen. And even if a failure hasn't happened yet, 
sooner or later you will be replacing your computer with a newer one.



Michael D Novack


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[GNC] Color of register placeholder text and hiding register header

[chandler via gnucash-user]

Hey all, I'm using Gnucash 4.11 on Linux and trying to get the coloring of the 
register to my liking.  I'm using ~/.config/gnucash/gtk-3.0.css for the 
settings.

I haven't yet figured out how to change the color of the placeholder text that shows up when the cursor is 
not in that textbox.  That is the gray-colored italic "Num" "Description" 
"Notes" indicated by the red arrow in the attached Screenshot.

I tried using the GTK+ Inspector to try and find this value, but I can't seem 
to find any of the entries in gtk-3.0.css in the GTK Inspector, any idea how to 
properly use it?

Also I would like to disable/hide the top header in the register (outlined by 
the blue border in the Screenshot), is there anyway to do that?

Thanks in advance!___
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