Re: [GNC] GnuCash Crash After upgrade to Sonoma

[John Ralls]

Please remember to copy the list on all replies.

Since it’s the same computer you don’t need to do anything, the new GnuCash 
will use the same files the old one did. When you finally leap to Apple Silicon 
see https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Backup for the files you need to copy to the 
new Mac—and in the meantime make sure that you have Time Machine backing all of 
them up!

Regards,
John Ralls


> On Jun 29, 2024, at 18:01, C Konz  wrote:
> 
> Intel Core.
> 
> Is there a file that I can copy that will have all the old data that I can 
> move over to the new GnuCash or do I have to start from scratch?
> 
> 
> On Sat, Jun 29, 2024 at 4:30 PM John Ralls  > wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> > On Jun 29, 2024, at 1:58 PM, C Konz > > > wrote:
>> > 
>> > Hey all, my GnuCash 3.11-1 won't open after upgrade to Mac Sonoma. Where do
>> > I start to troubleshoot? Thanks in advance.
>> 
>> Don’t bother, just upgrade. I tested 4.11 and it works. 4.0 started up but 
>> didn’t find the last opened file and crashed in GtkFileChooser when I tried 
>> to open a file.
>> 
>> What were you upgrading from? Apple Silicon or Intel?
>> 
>> Regards,
>> John Ralls
>> 
>> 

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Re: [GNC] Build ID: git 5.6-246-ge5628f09d0+(2024-06-22)

[Gyle McCollam]

John,
Sorry, I meant to cc the list.  I tried looking back and couldn't find it 
either.  I think it was in scheduled transactions when one was highlighted and 
you right clicked on a different SX, it acted on the original highlighted SX.  
That was changed to work on the specific SX that was right clicked.  I sorry I 
can't find it now, but for consistency, I thought if you right click on a 
specific line, it should work on that line not the previously highlighted line, 
even in import like it does now in SX.  However, I defer to you judgement.


Thank You,

Gyle McCollam

Gyle McCollam

gmccol...@live.com   email


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To: Gyle McCollam 
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Subject: Re: [GNC] Build ID: git 5.6-246-ge5628f09d0+(2024-06-22)

Glen,

Please keep everything GnuCash related on the list so that everyone can see it.

I think you're referring to 
https://github.com/Gnucash/gnucash/commit/31095c1205f769dd6dccaf4bb8f60ab14e56fe7c.
 The commit message says that it selects the transaction under the pointer if 
there's no selection, but you're expecting it to override the selected 
transaction. I think we might get a bit of pushback if we changed that.

I looked through your gnucash-user posts for the last year and didn't find the 
one you're referring to.

Regards,
John Ralls

> On Jun 29, 2024, at 1:57 PM, Gyle McCollam  wrote:
>
> John,
> I have been using this build for a week, with no significant issues.  
> However, my use is pretty simple.  The only thing I noticed is that when 
> importing an OFX file and a transaction is highlighted and you click on a 
> different transaction to fix it, Gnucash brings up the information for the 
> highlighted transaction, not the one clicked on.  This is same as a 
> previously fixed "bug", but I can't find it.  I know you talked to someone 
> and they "fixed" it.  I wish i could remember where in the program it was 
> fixed.
>
> Thank You,
> Gyle McCollam
> Gyle McCollam
> gmccol...@live.com   email

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Re: [GNC] Build ID: git 5.6-246-ge5628f09d0+(2024-06-22)

[Glenn Fowler]

Oops sorry I must not have clicked reply-all

On Sat, Jun 29, 2024, 5:38 PM John Ralls  wrote:

> Glen,
>
> Please keep everything GnuCash related on the list so that everyone can
> see it.
>
> I think you're referring to
> https://github.com/Gnucash/gnucash/commit/31095c1205f769dd6dccaf4bb8f60ab14e56fe7c.
> The commit message says that it selects the transaction under the pointer
> if there's no selection, but you're expecting it to override the selected
> transaction. I think we might get a bit of pushback if we changed that.
>
> I looked through your gnucash-user posts for the last year and didn't find
> the one you're referring to.
>
> Regards,
> John Ralls
>
> > On Jun 29, 2024, at 1:57 PM, Gyle McCollam  wrote:
> >
> > John,
> > I have been using this build for a week, with no significant issues.
> However, my use is pretty simple.  The only thing I noticed is that when
> importing an OFX file and a transaction is highlighted and you click on a
> different transaction to fix it, Gnucash brings up the information for the
> highlighted transaction, not the one clicked on.  This is same as a
> previously fixed "bug", but I can't find it.  I know you talked to someone
> and they "fixed" it.  I wish i could remember where in the program it was
> fixed.
> >
> > Thank You,
> > Gyle McCollam
> > Gyle McCollam
> > gmccol...@live.com   email
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Re: [GNC] GnuCash Crash After upgrade to Sonoma

[John Ralls]

> On Jun 29, 2024, at 1:58 PM, C Konz  wrote:
> 
> Hey all, my GnuCash 3.11-1 won't open after upgrade to Mac Sonoma. Where do
> I start to troubleshoot? Thanks in advance.

Don’t bother, just upgrade. I tested 4.11 and it works. 4.0 started up but 
didn’t find the last opened file and crashed in GtkFileChooser when I tried to 
open a file.

What were you upgrading from? Apple Silicon or Intel?

Regards,
John Ralls


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Re: [GNC] Build ID: git 5.6-246-ge5628f09d0+(2024-06-22)

[John Ralls]

Glen,

Please keep everything GnuCash related on the list so that everyone can see it.

I think you're referring to 
https://github.com/Gnucash/gnucash/commit/31095c1205f769dd6dccaf4bb8f60ab14e56fe7c.
 The commit message says that it selects the transaction under the pointer if 
there's no selection, but you're expecting it to override the selected 
transaction. I think we might get a bit of pushback if we changed that.

I looked through your gnucash-user posts for the last year and didn't find the 
one you're referring to.

Regards,
John Ralls

> On Jun 29, 2024, at 1:57 PM, Gyle McCollam  wrote:
> 
> John,
> I have been using this build for a week, with no significant issues.  
> However, my use is pretty simple.  The only thing I noticed is that when 
> importing an OFX file and a transaction is highlighted and you click on a 
> different transaction to fix it, Gnucash brings up the information for the 
> highlighted transaction, not the one clicked on.  This is same as a 
> previously fixed "bug", but I can't find it.  I know you talked to someone 
> and they "fixed" it.  I wish i could remember where in the program it was 
> fixed.
> 
> Thank You,  
> Gyle McCollam
> Gyle McCollam
> gmccol...@live.com   email

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[GNC] Exchange rate fluctuation changes historic amounts in P and BS

[G R Hewitt]

Hello Everyone,

Basics:
GnuCash 5.6; MacOS High Sierra 10.13.6
Using Sterling as the base currency and Euros.

The problem:
A few days ago I bought something in euros (€150) and paid for it in
sterling (£132.27) and the GnuCash system worked out that the rate was
0.8818. In the P the item was properly shown as £132.27. The card account
payment showed £132.27 and the euro expense account showed €150.00. All
well and good.

I bought something else a few days later in the same manner as above, but
the exchange rate had changed, all well and good too - card account and
expense account transactions were correct.

On running the P I noted that the £132.27 of the first transaction above
was now less at around £128 and some pence instead of the expected £132.27.
I checked the card account and it was still at £132.27 and the euro account
was still at €150.

Why is this and is there a way to have the correct figures shown in the P
without them jumping up and down as the rate changes.

Thanks in advance,

G.
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[GNC] GnuCash Crash After upgrade to Sonoma

[C Konz]

Hey all, my GnuCash 3.11-1 won't open after upgrade to Mac Sonoma. Where do
I start to troubleshoot? Thanks in advance.
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Re: [GNC] Release Next Weekend, please test nightly builds

[Glenn Fowler]

HI just reporting that I have encountered no issues using the build from
6/24.

During this time I have done regular register entries, created invoices,
paid invoices, exported invoices to PDF, and ran reports.

On Mon, Jun 24, 2024 at 12:35 PM John Ralls  wrote:

> David,
>
> Sorry, no. You’d have to look at git history. That’s what I’ll be doing
> later this week to write the release notes.
>
> Regards,
> John Ralls
>
> On Jun 24, 2024, at 09:14, David Carlson 
> wrote:
>
> Question:  Is there a preliminary release note indicating the changes that
> beta testers should be looking for?
>
> On Mon, Jun 24, 2024 at 8:18 AM Glenn Fowler  wrote:
>
>> Glad to help... just downloaded the latest windows build (6/24) and will
>> test during the week and report back
>>
>> On Sun, Jun 23, 2024 at 3:42 PM John Ralls  wrote:
>>
>> > Dear Users,
>> >
>> > With a week to go until the 5.7 release we'd be overjoyed to have some
>> > brave users give the nightly builds a spin:
>> > https://code.gnucash.org/builds/win32/stable and
>> > https://code.gnucash.org/builds/flatpak/stable.
>> >
>> > Please test on a *copy* of your data file!
>> >
>> > For German FinTS users: Nightly builds beginning with today's have the
>> > latest beta release of AQBanking, version 6.5.11beta. This fixes
>> failures
>> > in the last release version (6.5.4) so if no one reports any serious
>> > problems we'll break our usual policy and include it in the 5.7 release
>> > bundles.
>> >
>> > Thanks!
>> >
>> > Regards,
>> > John Ralls
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Re: [GNC] Balance sheet totals showing zeros?

[Stan Brown (using GC 4.14)]

Ken, thanks for taking the time to give us that detailed report of the
resolution. I'm sure it will help people who have a similar problem in
the future and search the archives for a solution.

Stan Brown
Tehachapi, CA, USA
https://BrownMath.com

On 2024-06-29 09:22, Ken McEvoy wrote:
> Thanks to all for advice on this.
> 
> Ultimately, it did turn out to be a currency issue. When I started using
> gnucash (way back in version 2), I never specified or worried about
> currency, because everything I did was in Canadian dollars, and all the
> reports worked as anticipated. Somewhere along the line, there must have
> been a change involving how currency was used to generate reports (or maybe
> I specified something as Canadian dollars that I should have left alone).
> 
> In any case, once I ensured that all my accounts were set to Canadian
> dollars, and the currency of choice on the commodities tab of the report
> options was set to Canadian dollars, all the reports started to work again
> as I had hoped.
> 
> However, for a while I was going into the options/commodities every time I
> ran a report to switch the currency to CAD. Under the
> Edit/Preferences/Accounts tab, I had default currency set to 'choose' and
> 'CAD (Canadian dollar')', but it took me a while to realize that I also had
> to do this under Edit/Preferences/Reports as well.
> 
> Ken
> 
> 
> 
> On Sat, Jun 29, 2024 at 12:07 PM William Prescott 
> wrote:
> 
>> Thanks. I have been following this question out of curiosity. I have
>> multiple currencies in my accounts (USD, EUR, MXN) but I almost never use
>> the reporting functions, so I hadn't investigated the issues raised by the
>> original question.
>>
>>
>> Best wishes,
>> Will Prescott
>>
>> On 29 Jun 2024, at 8:04, Fred Bone  wrote:
>>
>> On 28 June 2024 at 16:34, Ken McEvoy said:
>>
>>> I am the treasurer of a small nonprofit, and I have no
>>> accounting background, and a I'm also a beginner with gnucash ...
>>>
>>> We have a very simple set of accounts; single currency, only a few income
>>> and expense categories.
>>>
>>> When I run a balance sheet report, the subtotals show accurate amounts,
>>> but the totals for Assets, Liabilities and Equity are all zero.
>>>
>>> Can you help me understand what I might have done, or why the major
>> totals
>>> are all zero?
>>
>> It looks as though your assets are in one currency (C$) and the book in
>> another ($) with no conversion rate provided.

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Re: [GNC] Balance sheet totals showing zeros?

[Ken McEvoy]

Thanks to all for advice on this.

Ultimately, it did turn out to be a currency issue. When I started using
gnucash (way back in version 2), I never specified or worried about
currency, because everything I did was in Canadian dollars, and all the
reports worked as anticipated. Somewhere along the line, there must have
been a change involving how currency was used to generate reports (or maybe
I specified something as Canadian dollars that I should have left alone).

In any case, once I ensured that all my accounts were set to Canadian
dollars, and the currency of choice on the commodities tab of the report
options was set to Canadian dollars, all the reports started to work again
as I had hoped.

However, for a while I was going into the options/commodities every time I
ran a report to switch the currency to CAD. Under the
Edit/Preferences/Accounts tab, I had default currency set to 'choose' and
'CAD (Canadian dollar')', but it took me a while to realize that I also had
to do this under Edit/Preferences/Reports as well.

Ken



On Sat, Jun 29, 2024 at 12:07 PM William Prescott 
wrote:

> Thanks. I have been following this question out of curiosity. I have
> multiple currencies in my accounts (USD, EUR, MXN) but I almost never use
> the reporting functions, so I hadn't investigated the issues raised by the
> original question.
>
>
> Best wishes,
> Will Prescott
>
> On 29 Jun 2024, at 8:04, Fred Bone  wrote:
>
> On 28 June 2024 at 16:34, Ken McEvoy said:
>
> > I am the treasurer of a small nonprofit, and I have no
> > accounting background, and a I'm also a beginner with gnucash ...
> >
> > We have a very simple set of accounts; single currency, only a few income
> > and expense categories.
> >
> > When I run a balance sheet report, the subtotals show accurate amounts,
> > but the totals for Assets, Liabilities and Equity are all zero.
> >
> > Can you help me understand what I might have done, or why the major
> totals
> > are all zero?
>
> It looks as though your assets are in one currency (C$) and the book in
> another ($) with no conversion rate provided.
>
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Re: [GNC] Linux gnucash saves files to home directory.

[Dale Alspach]

My experience is similar. I have OS linux mint 21.1 and have been using
flatpaks for a few years. Currently 5.6-2. The log, backups and *.LCK land
in the same directory where the current gnucash data is,
~/Documents/gnucash. I created this directory in January of 2023 when I
changed computers so this was only used with flatpaks.

Dale

On Sat, Jun 29, 2024 at 9:41 AM Dr. Gideon Fell  wrote:

> Colleagues,
> A quick hint. I originally installed the package from my
> distribution,
> Debian. Opened GnuCash and saved the GnuCash data file into ~/GnuCash,
> where I wanted it. This put the file into the ~/GnuCash directory. THEN
> I installed from flatpak. Went to ~/GnuCash, and opened the GnuCash data
> file from there, Ever since, even as I update via flatpak, it
> automatically uses that file. Your mileage may vary.
>
> Ron B.
>
> On 6/29/24 10:20, Derek Atkins wrote:
> > HI,
> > This is a limitation of Flatpak.
> > If you install GnuCash natively then it will save it back to the same
> > directory where the file was opened from.
> > -derek
> >
> > On Sat, June 29, 2024 9:48 am, Chris Green wrote:
> >> On Fri, Jun 28, 2024 at 05:01:12PM -0400, Victor Rotenberg wrote:
> >>> I want files the gnucash files (v5.6 flatpak install)  to save into
> >>> /home/documents/gnudata.) . Instead it places the files .log, .lck
> >>> ,gnucash, into the home directory above all my other working folders.
> >>>
> >> Yes, it's an absolite pain isn't it!?
> >>
> >> I've muttered about this several times in the past but it doesn't seem
> >> to trouble most people.  I just wish there was a way to tell GnuCash
> >> to put its "working" files in some user definable sub-directory
> >> instead of in the directory that **I'm** working in.
> >>
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Re: [GNC] Balance sheet totals showing zeros?

[William Prescott]

Thanks. I have been following this question out of curiosity. I have multiple 
currencies in my accounts (USD, EUR, MXN) but I almost never use the reporting 
functions, so I hadn't investigated the issues raised by the original question.


Best wishes,
Will Prescott

On 29 Jun 2024, at 8:04, Fred Bone  wrote:

On 28 June 2024 at 16:34, Ken McEvoy said:

> I am the treasurer of a small nonprofit, and I have no
> accounting background, and a I'm also a beginner with gnucash ...
> 
> We have a very simple set of accounts; single currency, only a few income
> and expense categories.
> 
> When I run a balance sheet report, the subtotals show accurate amounts,
> but the totals for Assets, Liabilities and Equity are all zero.
> 
> Can you help me understand what I might have done, or why the major totals
> are all zero?

It looks as though your assets are in one currency (C$) and the book in 
another ($) with no conversion rate provided.

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Re: [GNC] Linux gnucash saves files to home directory.

[Dr. Gideon Fell]

Colleagues,
	A quick hint. I originally installed the package from my distribution, 
Debian. Opened GnuCash and saved the GnuCash data file into ~/GnuCash, 
where I wanted it. This put the file into the ~/GnuCash directory. THEN 
I installed from flatpak. Went to ~/GnuCash, and opened the GnuCash data 
file from there, Ever since, even as I update via flatpak, it 
automatically uses that file. Your mileage may vary.


Ron B.

On 6/29/24 10:20, Derek Atkins wrote:

HI,
This is a limitation of Flatpak.
If you install GnuCash natively then it will save it back to the same
directory where the file was opened from.
-derek

On Sat, June 29, 2024 9:48 am, Chris Green wrote:

On Fri, Jun 28, 2024 at 05:01:12PM -0400, Victor Rotenberg wrote:

I want files the gnucash files (v5.6 flatpak install)  to save into
/home/documents/gnudata.) . Instead it places the files .log, .lck
,gnucash, into the home directory above all my other working folders.


Yes, it's an absolite pain isn't it!?

I've muttered about this several times in the past but it doesn't seem
to trouble most people.  I just wish there was a way to tell GnuCash
to put its "working" files in some user definable sub-directory
instead of in the directory that **I'm** working in.

--
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Re: [GNC] Linux gnucash saves files to home directory.

[Derek Atkins]

HI,
This is a limitation of Flatpak.
If you install GnuCash natively then it will save it back to the same
directory where the file was opened from.
-derek

On Sat, June 29, 2024 9:48 am, Chris Green wrote:
> On Fri, Jun 28, 2024 at 05:01:12PM -0400, Victor Rotenberg wrote:
>> I want files the gnucash files (v5.6 flatpak install)  to save into
>> /home/documents/gnudata.) . Instead it places the files .log, .lck
>> ,gnucash, into the home directory above all my other working folders.
>>
> Yes, it's an absolite pain isn't it!?
>
> I've muttered about this several times in the past but it doesn't seem
> to trouble most people.  I just wish there was a way to tell GnuCash
> to put its "working" files in some user definable sub-directory
> instead of in the directory that **I'm** working in.
>
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Re: [GNC] Balance sheet totals showing zeros?

[Fred Bone]

On 28 June 2024 at 16:34, Ken McEvoy said:

> I am the treasurer of a small nonprofit, and I have no
> accounting background, and a I'm also a beginner with gnucash ...
> 
> We have a very simple set of accounts; single currency, only a few income
> and expense categories.
> 
> When I run a balance sheet report, the subtotals show accurate amounts,
> but the totals for Assets, Liabilities and Equity are all zero.
> 
> Can you help me understand what I might have done, or why the major totals
> are all zero?

It looks as though your assets are in one currency (C$) and the book in 
another ($) with no conversion rate provided.

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Re: [GNC] Linux gnucash saves files to home directory.

[Fross, Michael via gnucash-user]

I don't use that distribution, but can't you File | Save As and save
everything into another directory?  I assume you tried this, but just in
case

Michael

On Sat, Jun 29, 2024 at 8:50 AM Chris Green  wrote:

> On Fri, Jun 28, 2024 at 05:01:12PM -0400, Victor Rotenberg wrote:
> > I want files the gnucash files (v5.6 flatpak install)  to save into
> > /home/documents/gnudata.) . Instead it places the files .log, .lck
> > ,gnucash, into the home directory above all my other working folders.
> >
> Yes, it's an absolite pain isn't it!?
>
> I've muttered about this several times in the past but it doesn't seem
> to trouble most people.  I just wish there was a way to tell GnuCash
> to put its "working" files in some user definable sub-directory
> instead of in the directory that **I'm** working in.
>
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Re: [GNC] Linux gnucash saves files to home directory.

[Chris Green]

On Fri, Jun 28, 2024 at 05:01:12PM -0400, Victor Rotenberg wrote:
> I want files the gnucash files (v5.6 flatpak install)  to save into
> /home/documents/gnudata.) . Instead it places the files .log, .lck
> ,gnucash, into the home directory above all my other working folders.
> 
Yes, it's an absolite pain isn't it!?

I've muttered about this several times in the past but it doesn't seem
to trouble most people.  I just wish there was a way to tell GnuCash
to put its "working" files in some user definable sub-directory
instead of in the directory that **I'm** working in.

-- 
Chris Green
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[GNC] Linux gnucash saves files to home directory.

[Victor Rotenberg]

I want files the gnucash files (v5.6 flatpak install)  to save into
/home/documents/gnudata.) . Instead it places the files .log, .lck
,gnucash, into the home directory above all my other working folders.

Right now I found a workaround. Manually, I create the folder
/home/documents/gnudata and move  the  gnucash files from the home
directory into I click on the .gnucash file  and the application comes on
the screen.

My Linux Distro is Mint 21.3
Gnucash application opens fine when clicked from
/home/documents/gnudata/..gnucash
If I click the save button in the GnuCash Application  the
Post-Transaction files (build .log, .lck ,gnucash) go straight
to /home/documents/gnudata without any actions by me. If I don't hit the
GnuCash save buton the files go back to  home directory

Thank You
Victor Rotenberg
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