[GNC] Strange Mac OS interface problem

[Nike V. via gnucash-user]

Hi,

I am having a weird problem with the interface under Mac OS X 10.13.6

While trying to import an OFX file, clicking on a given line seems to 
act on the following line. Eg, if you have two entries say Hotel A $10 
and Hotel B $20 on after the other, then clicking the line for Hotel A 
toggles the checkmark for Hotel B. The same thing happens in the 
assignment of categories -- eg, have Biz, and then Books, but if I clck 
Biz, what seems to be selected is Books. And for some reason the 
category doesn't get updated in the import window either.


Even in selecting an OFX file to import, double clicking the file in the 
list acts on the next file. Using the arrow keys to move around and 
select by hitting return seems to work, however.



It all used to work fine a couple of weeks ago, so I am totally baffled. 
Any idea what's up?


Nike
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Re: [GNC] Strange Mac OS interface problem

[Adrien Monteleone]

Try to determine if instead of the mouse arrow pointer being the focus, it’s 
the tail.

If so, this bug has been encountered before and was thought to be fixed. Sorry 
I don’t have the bug# handy, but the devs are familiar with it.

Short term work around is to aim with the pointer tail instead.

Regards,
Adrien

> On Aug 1, 2018, at 2:51 PM, Nike V. via gnucash-user 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I am having a weird problem with the interface under Mac OS X 10.13.6
> 
> While trying to import an OFX file, clicking on a given line seems to act on 
> the following line. Eg, if you have two entries say Hotel A $10 and Hotel B 
> $20 on after the other, then clicking the line for Hotel A toggles the 
> checkmark for Hotel B. The same thing happens in the assignment of categories 
> -- eg, have Biz, and then Books, but if I clck Biz, what seems to be selected 
> is Books. And for some reason the category doesn't get updated in the import 
> window either.
> 
> Even in selecting an OFX file to import, double clicking the file in the list 
> acts on the next file. Using the arrow keys to move around and select by 
> hitting return seems to work, however.
> 
> 
> It all used to work fine a couple of weeks ago, so I am totally baffled. Any 
> idea what's up?
> 
> Nike
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Re: [GNC] Strange Mac OS interface problem

[Adrien Monteleone]

Forgot to mention, If I don’t see any devs chiming in otherwise before later 
this evening, I’ll dig up the bug and re-open it if you confirm it’s the tail 
that gets focus and not the pointer.

Regards,
Adrien

> On Aug 1, 2018, at 4:07 PM, Adrien Monteleone 
>  wrote:
> 
> Try to determine if instead of the mouse arrow pointer being the focus, it’s 
> the tail.
> 
> If so, this bug has been encountered before and was thought to be fixed. 
> Sorry I don’t have the bug# handy, but the devs are familiar with it.
> 
> Short term work around is to aim with the pointer tail instead.
> 
> Regards,
> Adrien
> 
>> On Aug 1, 2018, at 2:51 PM, Nike V. via gnucash-user 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> I am having a weird problem with the interface under Mac OS X 10.13.6
>> 
>> While trying to import an OFX file, clicking on a given line seems to act on 
>> the following line. Eg, if you have two entries say Hotel A $10 and Hotel B 
>> $20 on after the other, then clicking the line for Hotel A toggles the 
>> checkmark for Hotel B. The same thing happens in the assignment of 
>> categories -- eg, have Biz, and then Books, but if I clck Biz, what seems to 
>> be selected is Books. And for some reason the category doesn't get updated 
>> in the import window either.
>> 
>> Even in selecting an OFX file to import, double clicking the file in the 
>> list acts on the next file. Using the arrow keys to move around and select 
>> by hitting return seems to work, however.
>> 
>> 
>> It all used to work fine a couple of weeks ago, so I am totally baffled. Any 
>> idea what's up?
>> 
>> Nike
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Re: [GNC] Strange Mac OS interface problem

[John Ralls]

Adrien,

It’s https://bugs.gnucash.org/show_bug.cgi?id=776602 
 and the most recent 
discussion there says it’s related to 
https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gtk/issues/1029 
, that the new-in-Sierra 
application window tab feature messes up Gtk’s understanding of mouse 
coordinates.

Nike,

Are you using MacOS-level tabs? If so, turn them off.

Regards,
John Ralls


> On Aug 1, 2018, at 2:08 PM, Adrien Monteleone 
>  wrote:
> 
> Forgot to mention, If I don’t see any devs chiming in otherwise before later 
> this evening, I’ll dig up the bug and re-open it if you confirm it’s the tail 
> that gets focus and not the pointer.
> 
> Regards,
> Adrien
> 
>> On Aug 1, 2018, at 4:07 PM, Adrien Monteleone 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Try to determine if instead of the mouse arrow pointer being the focus, it’s 
>> the tail.
>> 
>> If so, this bug has been encountered before and was thought to be fixed. 
>> Sorry I don’t have the bug# handy, but the devs are familiar with it.
>> 
>> Short term work around is to aim with the pointer tail instead.
>> 
>> Regards,
>> Adrien
>> 
>>> On Aug 1, 2018, at 2:51 PM, Nike V. via gnucash-user 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> I am having a weird problem with the interface under Mac OS X 10.13.6
>>> 
>>> While trying to import an OFX file, clicking on a given line seems to act 
>>> on the following line. Eg, if you have two entries say Hotel A $10 and 
>>> Hotel B $20 on after the other, then clicking the line for Hotel A toggles 
>>> the checkmark for Hotel B. The same thing happens in the assignment of 
>>> categories -- eg, have Biz, and then Books, but if I clck Biz, what seems 
>>> to be selected is Books. And for some reason the category doesn't get 
>>> updated in the import window either.
>>> 
>>> Even in selecting an OFX file to import, double clicking the file in the 
>>> list acts on the next file. Using the arrow keys to move around and select 
>>> by hitting return seems to work, however.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> It all used to work fine a couple of weeks ago, so I am totally baffled. 
>>> Any idea what's up?
>>> 
>>> Nike
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Re: [GNC] Strange Mac OS interface problem

[Adrien Monteleone]

Thanks for the reminder John,

I forgot the issue was with window tabs on that bug.

Regards,
Adrien

> On Aug 1, 2018, at 8:15 PM, John Ralls  wrote:
> 
> Adrien,
> 
> It’s https://bugs.gnucash.org/show_bug.cgi?id=776602 and the most recent 
> discussion there says it’s related to 
> https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gtk/issues/1029, that the new-in-Sierra 
> application window tab feature messes up Gtk’s understanding of mouse 
> coordinates.
> 
> Nike,
> 
> Are you using MacOS-level tabs? If so, turn them off.
> 
> Regards,
> John Ralls
> 
> 
>> On Aug 1, 2018, at 2:08 PM, Adrien Monteleone 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Forgot to mention, If I don’t see any devs chiming in otherwise before later 
>> this evening, I’ll dig up the bug and re-open it if you confirm it’s the 
>> tail that gets focus and not the pointer.
>> 
>> Regards,
>> Adrien
>> 
>>> On Aug 1, 2018, at 4:07 PM, Adrien Monteleone 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Try to determine if instead of the mouse arrow pointer being the focus, 
>>> it’s the tail.
>>> 
>>> If so, this bug has been encountered before and was thought to be fixed. 
>>> Sorry I don’t have the bug# handy, but the devs are familiar with it.
>>> 
>>> Short term work around is to aim with the pointer tail instead.
>>> 
>>> Regards,
>>> Adrien
>>> 
 On Aug 1, 2018, at 2:51 PM, Nike V. via gnucash-user 
  wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
 I am having a weird problem with the interface under Mac OS X 10.13.6
 
 While trying to import an OFX file, clicking on a given line seems to act 
 on the following line. Eg, if you have two entries say Hotel A $10 and 
 Hotel B $20 on after the other, then clicking the line for Hotel A toggles 
 the checkmark for Hotel B. The same thing happens in the assignment of 
 categories -- eg, have Biz, and then Books, but if I clck Biz, what seems 
 to be selected is Books. And for some reason the category doesn't get 
 updated in the import window either.
 
 Even in selecting an OFX file to import, double clicking the file in the 
 list acts on the next file. Using the arrow keys to move around and select 
 by hitting return seems to work, however.
 
 
 It all used to work fine a couple of weeks ago, so I am totally baffled. 
 Any idea what's up?
 
 Nike
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Re: [GNC] Strange Mac OS interface problem (John Ralls)

[V. Vatsal via gnucash-user]

Thanks.

Where do I turn off MacOS-level tabs? I am running GnuCash with default 
settings.

Nike


> Message: 1
> Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2018 18:15:22 -0700
> From: John Ralls 
> To: Adrien Monteleone 
> Cc: Gnucash Users 
> Subject: Re: [GNC] Strange Mac OS interface problem
> Message-ID: <6b6aecad-1b44-498a-bbeb-30dd37e77...@ceridwen.us>
> Content-Type: text/plain;charset=utf-8
> Adrien,
> It?s https://bugs.gnucash.org/show_bug.cgi?id=776602 
> <https://bugs.gnucash.org/show_bug.cgi?id=776602> and the most recent 
> discussion there says it?s related to 
> https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gtk/issues/1029 
> <https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gtk/issues/1029>, that the new-in-Sierra 
> application window tab feature messes up Gtk?s understanding of mouse 
> coordinates.
> Nike,
> Are you using MacOS-level tabs? If so, turn them off.
> Regards,
> John Ralls
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Re: [GNC] Strange Mac OS interface problem (John Ralls)

[Dave H]

Check System Preferences >> Dock >> Prefer Tabs when opening documents -
set to "Manually" ?  Mine tabs setting is set to "In Full Screen Only".  I
can't say I've noticed the problem running GnuCash 3.2 on High Sierra on a
27" iMac or 15" MacBook Pro.

Cheers Dave H.

On Fri, 3 Aug 2018 at 07:21, V. Vatsal via gnucash-user <
gnucash-user@gnucash.org> wrote:

> Thanks.
>
> Where do I turn off MacOS-level tabs? I am running GnuCash with default
> settings.
>
> Nike
>
>
> > Message: 1
> > Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2018 18:15:22 -0700
> > From: John Ralls 
> > To: Adrien Monteleone 
> > Cc: Gnucash Users 
> > Subject: Re: [GNC] Strange Mac OS interface problem
> > Message-ID: <6b6aecad-1b44-498a-bbeb-30dd37e77...@ceridwen.us>
> > Content-Type: text/plain;charset=utf-8
> > Adrien,
> > It?s https://bugs.gnucash.org/show_bug.cgi?id=776602 <
> https://bugs.gnucash.org/show_bug.cgi?id=776602> and the most recent
> discussion there says it?s related to
> https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gtk/issues/1029 <
> https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gtk/issues/1029>, that the new-in-Sierra
> application window tab feature messes up Gtk?s understanding of mouse
> coordinates.
> > Nike,
> > Are you using MacOS-level tabs? If so, turn them off.
> > Regards,
> > John Ralls
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Re: [GNC] Strange Mac OS interface problem (John Ralls)

[V. Vatsal via gnucash-user]

I have tried toggling the Mac OS level tabs as instructed by Dave, but it 
doesn’t make any difference.

The weird mouse behaviour seems limited to certain windows only.

I have no problems navigating the main GnuCash account window or any of its 
tabs; clicking on a line selects that line.

But if I try (say) to import an OFX, then the weird behaviour comes up. It also 
comes up in the file opening dialog box.

I don’t recall having this problem on my machine at home, which is where I had 
been using GnuCash for a while, on the same file. I will try that machine again 
this weekend, and see if it works.



> On Aug 2, 2018, at 3:12 PM, Dave H  wrote:
> 
> Check System Preferences >> Dock >> Prefer Tabs when opening documents - set 
> to "Manually" ?  Mine tabs setting is set to "In Full Screen Only".  I can't 
> say I've noticed the problem running GnuCash 3.2 on High Sierra on a 27" iMac 
> or 15" MacBook Pro.
> 
> Cheers Dave H. 
> 
> On Fri, 3 Aug 2018 at 07:21, V. Vatsal via gnucash-user 
>  wrote:
> Thanks.
> 
> Where do I turn off MacOS-level tabs? I am running GnuCash with default 
> settings.
> 
> Nike
> 
> 
> > Message: 1
> > Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2018 18:15:22 -0700
> > From: John Ralls 
> > To: Adrien Monteleone 
> > Cc: Gnucash Users 
> > Subject: Re: [GNC] Strange Mac OS interface problem
> > Message-ID: <6b6aecad-1b44-498a-bbeb-30dd37e77...@ceridwen.us>
> > Content-Type: text/plain;charset=utf-8
> > Adrien,
> > It?s https://bugs.gnucash.org/show_bug.cgi?id=776602 
> > <https://bugs.gnucash.org/show_bug.cgi?id=776602> and the most recent 
> > discussion there says it?s related to 
> > https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gtk/issues/1029 
> > <https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gtk/issues/1029>, that the new-in-Sierra 
> > application window tab feature messes up Gtk?s understanding of mouse 
> > coordinates.
> > Nike,
> > Are you using MacOS-level tabs? If so, turn them off.
> > Regards,
> > John Ralls
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Re: [GNC] Strange Mac OS interface problem (John Ralls)

[V. Vatsal via gnucash-user]

I have tried toggling the Mac OS level tabs as instructed by Dave, but it 
doesn’t make any difference.

The weird mouse behaviour seems limited to certain windows only.

I have no problems navigating the main GnuCash account window or any of its 
tabs; clicking on a line selects that line.

But if I try (say) to import an OFX, then the weird behaviour comes up. It also 
comes up in the file opening dialog box.

I don’t recall having this problem on my machine at home, which is where I had 
been using GnuCash for a while, on the same file. I will try that machine again 
this weekend, and see if it works.



> On Aug 2, 2018, at 3:12 PM, Dave H  wrote:
> 
> Check System Preferences >> Dock >> Prefer Tabs when opening documents - set 
> to "Manually" ?  Mine tabs setting is set to "In Full Screen Only".  I can't 
> say I've noticed the problem running GnuCash 3.2 on High Sierra on a 27" iMac 
> or 15" MacBook Pro.
> 
> Cheers Dave H. 
> 
> On Fri, 3 Aug 2018 at 07:21, V. Vatsal via gnucash-user 
>  wrote:
> Thanks.
> 
> Where do I turn off MacOS-level tabs? I am running GnuCash with default 
> settings.
> 
> Nike
> 
> 
>> Message: 1
>> Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2018 18:15:22 -0700
>> From: John Ralls 
>> To: Adrien Monteleone 
>> Cc: Gnucash Users 
>> Subject: Re: [GNC] Strange Mac OS interface problem
>> Message-ID: <6b6aecad-1b44-498a-bbeb-30dd37e77...@ceridwen.us>
>> Content-Type: text/plain;charset=utf-8
>> Adrien,
>> It?s https://bugs.gnucash.org/show_bug.cgi?id=776602 
>> <https://bugs.gnucash.org/show_bug.cgi?id=776602> and the most recent 
>> discussion there says it?s related to 
>> https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gtk/issues/1029 
>> <https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gtk/issues/1029>, that the new-in-Sierra 
>> application window tab feature messes up Gtk?s understanding of mouse 
>> coordinates.
>> Nike,
>> Are you using MacOS-level tabs? If so, turn them off.
>> Regards,
>> John Ralls
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