Re: [GNC] Invoice date field starts too narrow

[Adrien Monteleone]

The default for all systems is XML.

You can choose to save your file as type sqlite instead. (the XML version will 
still be on disk, so if you work in the sqlite file make sure to treat the XML 
as an archive - it won’t contain newer transactions.)

This will result in every change being saved as it is made. (no need to 
periodically save, or set a save interval)

This won’t help the initial problem of with the narrow date width, but it might 
aid in making your custom width ’stick’.

As I’ve mentioned, I don’t have a problem with the width being too narrow, but 
that might be because I’ve customized it long ago. Double-clicking the date 
header does shrink the width because I’ve got mine set to accommodate the 
widget and the double-click function doesn’t take it into account. (it sizes 
the date exactly, so when the widget appears, I loose part of the date)

Regards,
Adrien

> On Dec 15, 2019 w51d349, at 1:52 PM, Axel Essbaum  wrote:
> 
> 
> I am using GC as downloaded for Mac / Intel from https://gnucash.org.  So 
> whatever database that would be by default is what I am using.
> 
> (How would I specify a different backend?)
> 
> - Axel

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Re: [GNC] Invoice date field starts too narrow

[Axel Essbaum]

I am using GC as downloaded for Mac / Intel from https://gnucash.org 
.  So whatever database that would be by default is what 
I am using.

(How would I specify a different backend?)

- Axel

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> On 15 Dec 2019, at 20:00, Adrien Monteleone  
> wrote:
> 
> Reproducing the problem is an issue as well.
> 
> Are you using the XML or a db backend?
> 
> That shouldn’t be an issue with the GUI but it might make a difference on 
> saving column widths as with sqlite for example, saves are instant. (I’m 
> using sqlite and all my column width changes are ’sticky’ and I never close 
> GnuCash except for updates)
> 
> Regards,
> Adrien
> 
>> On Dec 15, 2019 w51d349, at 12:18 PM, David Carlson 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> That tidbit of information may be useful to the developers.
>> 
>> David Carlson
>> 
>> On Sun, Dec 15, 2019 at 12:12 PM Axel Essbaum  wrote:
>> 
>> Restarting GC with open invoices results in all date fields collapsing to 
>> the original too-narrow width.
>> 
>> This is why I try to avoid closing GC (I typically have 30+ invoices open).
>> 
>> - Axel
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Re: [GNC] Invoice date field starts too narrow

[Adrien Monteleone]

Reproducing the problem is an issue as well.

Are you using the XML or a db backend?

That shouldn’t be an issue with the GUI but it might make a difference on 
saving column widths as with sqlite for example, saves are instant. (I’m using 
sqlite and all my column width changes are ’sticky’ and I never close GnuCash 
except for updates)

Regards,
Adrien

> On Dec 15, 2019 w51d349, at 12:18 PM, David Carlson 
>  wrote:
> 
> That tidbit of information may be useful to the developers.
> 
> David Carlson
> 
> On Sun, Dec 15, 2019 at 12:12 PM Axel Essbaum  wrote:
> 
> Restarting GC with open invoices results in all date fields collapsing to the 
> original too-narrow width.
> 
> This is why I try to avoid closing GC (I typically have 30+ invoices open).
> 
> - Axel

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Re: [GNC] Invoice date field starts too narrow

[Axel Essbaum]

I will happily make another donation to the project if this issue is resolved 
;-)

- Axel

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> On 15 Dec 2019, at 19:18, David Carlson  wrote:
> 
> That tidbit of information may be useful to the developers.
> 
> David Carlson
> 
> On Sun, Dec 15, 2019 at 12:12 PM Axel Essbaum  > wrote:
> 
> Restarting GC with open invoices results in all date fields collapsing to the 
> original too-narrow width.
> 
> This is why I try to avoid closing GC (I typically have 30+ invoices open).
> 
> - Axel
> 
> —
> Axel Essbaum
> a...@essbaum.com 
> 
> 
> 
>> On 15 Dec 2019, at 18:38, David Carlson > > wrote:
>> 
>> Oops, Be sure to leave the invoice open with the resized date field when you 
>> close GnuCash. 
>> 
>> On Sun, Dec 15, 2019, 11:34 AM David Carlson > > wrote:
>> Axel, 
>> 
>> Try resizing the date field in one invoice, then close GnuCash altogether.   
>> Reopen GnuCash and reopen that invoice.  
>> 
>> You may get different results if you follow that procedure. 
>> 
>> David Carlson 
>> 
>> On Sun, Dec 15, 2019, 2:31 AM Axel Essbaum > > wrote:
>> 
>> Updated to 3.7.  Date field issue did not change.  Calendar button still 
>> pushes date off the left and double-click still collapses date field even 
>> further.  And date field with is still not remembered if the invoice tab is 
>> closed and reopened.
>> 
>> - Axel
>> 
>> —
>> Axel Essbaum
>> a...@essbaum.com 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> > On 14 Dec 2019, at 19:07, Adrien Monteleone 
>> > mailto:adrien.montele...@lusfiber.net>> 
>> > wrote:
>> > 
>> > Hmm... I didn’t notice this back when I was using 3.6 but it might have 
>> > happened for me as well.
>> > 
>> > I’m presently on 3.7 and I’ve since upgraded to Catalina.
>> > 
>> > Perhaps try 3.7 on Mojave and see if the problem is resolved. (3.7 was 
>> > released in September, and another is on the way at the end of this month)
>> > 
>> > Regards,
>> > Adrien
>> > 
>> >> On Dec 14, 2019 w50d348, at 11:13 AM, Axel Essbaum > >> > wrote:
>> >> 
>> >> 
>> >> Manually widening the date field applies only to that invoice, and only 
>> >> as long as the invoice's tab is open. If I close the invoice's tab and 
>> >> reopen I get a narrow date fields again.  Creating a new invoice also 
>> >> results in a narrow date field.  As far as I can tell no adjustment to 
>> >> field widths is carried forward to subsequent invoices.
>> >> 
>> >> Date order has no effect - MDY is also chopped off for me.
>> >> 
>> >> I'm on macOS Mojave, GC 3.6 - Build ID: 3.6+(2019-06-29)
>> >> 
>> >> - Axel
>> > 
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Re: [GNC] Invoice date field starts too narrow

[David Carlson]

That tidbit of information may be useful to the developers.

David Carlson

On Sun, Dec 15, 2019 at 12:12 PM Axel Essbaum  wrote:

>
> Restarting GC with open invoices results in all date fields collapsing to
> the original too-narrow width.
>
> This is why I try to avoid closing GC (I typically have 30+ invoices open).
>
> - Axel
>
> —
> Axel Essbaum
> a...@essbaum.com
>
>
>
> On 15 Dec 2019, at 18:38, David Carlson 
> wrote:
>
> Oops, Be sure to leave the invoice open with the resized date field when
> you close GnuCash.
>
> On Sun, Dec 15, 2019, 11:34 AM David Carlson 
> wrote:
>
>> Axel,
>>
>> Try resizing the date field in one invoice, then close GnuCash
>> altogether.   Reopen GnuCash and reopen that invoice.
>>
>> You may get different results if you follow that procedure.
>>
>> David Carlson
>>
>> On Sun, Dec 15, 2019, 2:31 AM Axel Essbaum  wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Updated to 3.7.  Date field issue did not change.  Calendar button still
>>> pushes date off the left and double-click still collapses date field even
>>> further.  And date field with is still not remembered if the invoice tab is
>>> closed and reopened.
>>>
>>> - Axel
>>>
>>> —
>>> Axel Essbaum
>>> a...@essbaum.com
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> > On 14 Dec 2019, at 19:07, Adrien Monteleone <
>>> adrien.montele...@lusfiber.net> wrote:
>>> >
>>> > Hmm... I didn’t notice this back when I was using 3.6 but it might
>>> have happened for me as well.
>>> >
>>> > I’m presently on 3.7 and I’ve since upgraded to Catalina.
>>> >
>>> > Perhaps try 3.7 on Mojave and see if the problem is resolved. (3.7 was
>>> released in September, and another is on the way at the end of this month)
>>> >
>>> > Regards,
>>> > Adrien
>>> >
>>> >> On Dec 14, 2019 w50d348, at 11:13 AM, Axel Essbaum 
>>> wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> Manually widening the date field applies only to that invoice, and
>>> only as long as the invoice's tab is open. If I close the invoice's tab and
>>> reopen I get a narrow date fields again.  Creating a new invoice also
>>> results in a narrow date field.  As far as I can tell no adjustment to
>>> field widths is carried forward to subsequent invoices.
>>> >>
>>> >> Date order has no effect - MDY is also chopped off for me.
>>> >>
>>> >> I'm on macOS Mojave, GC 3.6 - Build ID: 3.6+(2019-06-29)
>>> >>
>>> >> - Axel
>>> >
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Re: [GNC] Invoice date field starts too narrow

[Axel Essbaum]

Restarting GC with open invoices results in all date fields collapsing to the 
original too-narrow width.

This is why I try to avoid closing GC (I typically have 30+ invoices open).

- Axel

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> On 15 Dec 2019, at 18:38, David Carlson  wrote:
> 
> Oops, Be sure to leave the invoice open with the resized date field when you 
> close GnuCash. 
> 
> On Sun, Dec 15, 2019, 11:34 AM David Carlson  > wrote:
> Axel, 
> 
> Try resizing the date field in one invoice, then close GnuCash altogether.   
> Reopen GnuCash and reopen that invoice.  
> 
> You may get different results if you follow that procedure. 
> 
> David Carlson 
> 
> On Sun, Dec 15, 2019, 2:31 AM Axel Essbaum  > wrote:
> 
> Updated to 3.7.  Date field issue did not change.  Calendar button still 
> pushes date off the left and double-click still collapses date field even 
> further.  And date field with is still not remembered if the invoice tab is 
> closed and reopened.
> 
> - Axel
> 
> —
> Axel Essbaum
> a...@essbaum.com 
> 
> 
> 
> > On 14 Dec 2019, at 19:07, Adrien Monteleone  > > wrote:
> > 
> > Hmm... I didn’t notice this back when I was using 3.6 but it might have 
> > happened for me as well.
> > 
> > I’m presently on 3.7 and I’ve since upgraded to Catalina.
> > 
> > Perhaps try 3.7 on Mojave and see if the problem is resolved. (3.7 was 
> > released in September, and another is on the way at the end of this month)
> > 
> > Regards,
> > Adrien
> > 
> >> On Dec 14, 2019 w50d348, at 11:13 AM, Axel Essbaum  >> > wrote:
> >> 
> >> 
> >> Manually widening the date field applies only to that invoice, and only as 
> >> long as the invoice's tab is open. If I close the invoice's tab and reopen 
> >> I get a narrow date fields again.  Creating a new invoice also results in 
> >> a narrow date field.  As far as I can tell no adjustment to field widths 
> >> is carried forward to subsequent invoices.
> >> 
> >> Date order has no effect - MDY is also chopped off for me.
> >> 
> >> I'm on macOS Mojave, GC 3.6 - Build ID: 3.6+(2019-06-29)
> >> 
> >> - Axel
> > 
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Re: [GNC] Invoice date field starts too narrow

[David Carlson]

Oops, Be sure to leave the invoice open with the resized date field when
you close GnuCash.

On Sun, Dec 15, 2019, 11:34 AM David Carlson 
wrote:

> Axel,
>
> Try resizing the date field in one invoice, then close GnuCash
> altogether.   Reopen GnuCash and reopen that invoice.
>
> You may get different results if you follow that procedure.
>
> David Carlson
>
> On Sun, Dec 15, 2019, 2:31 AM Axel Essbaum  wrote:
>
>>
>> Updated to 3.7.  Date field issue did not change.  Calendar button still
>> pushes date off the left and double-click still collapses date field even
>> further.  And date field with is still not remembered if the invoice tab is
>> closed and reopened.
>>
>> - Axel
>>
>> —
>> Axel Essbaum
>> a...@essbaum.com
>>
>>
>>
>> > On 14 Dec 2019, at 19:07, Adrien Monteleone <
>> adrien.montele...@lusfiber.net> wrote:
>> >
>> > Hmm... I didn’t notice this back when I was using 3.6 but it might have
>> happened for me as well.
>> >
>> > I’m presently on 3.7 and I’ve since upgraded to Catalina.
>> >
>> > Perhaps try 3.7 on Mojave and see if the problem is resolved. (3.7 was
>> released in September, and another is on the way at the end of this month)
>> >
>> > Regards,
>> > Adrien
>> >
>> >> On Dec 14, 2019 w50d348, at 11:13 AM, Axel Essbaum 
>> wrote:
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Manually widening the date field applies only to that invoice, and
>> only as long as the invoice's tab is open. If I close the invoice's tab and
>> reopen I get a narrow date fields again.  Creating a new invoice also
>> results in a narrow date field.  As far as I can tell no adjustment to
>> field widths is carried forward to subsequent invoices.
>> >>
>> >> Date order has no effect - MDY is also chopped off for me.
>> >>
>> >> I'm on macOS Mojave, GC 3.6 - Build ID: 3.6+(2019-06-29)
>> >>
>> >> - Axel
>> >
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Re: [GNC] Invoice date field starts too narrow

[David Carlson]

Axel,

Try resizing the date field in one invoice, then close GnuCash altogether.
 Reopen GnuCash and reopen that invoice.

You may get different results if you follow that procedure.

David Carlson

On Sun, Dec 15, 2019, 2:31 AM Axel Essbaum  wrote:

>
> Updated to 3.7.  Date field issue did not change.  Calendar button still
> pushes date off the left and double-click still collapses date field even
> further.  And date field with is still not remembered if the invoice tab is
> closed and reopened.
>
> - Axel
>
> —
> Axel Essbaum
> a...@essbaum.com
>
>
>
> > On 14 Dec 2019, at 19:07, Adrien Monteleone <
> adrien.montele...@lusfiber.net> wrote:
> >
> > Hmm... I didn’t notice this back when I was using 3.6 but it might have
> happened for me as well.
> >
> > I’m presently on 3.7 and I’ve since upgraded to Catalina.
> >
> > Perhaps try 3.7 on Mojave and see if the problem is resolved. (3.7 was
> released in September, and another is on the way at the end of this month)
> >
> > Regards,
> > Adrien
> >
> >> On Dec 14, 2019 w50d348, at 11:13 AM, Axel Essbaum 
> wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >> Manually widening the date field applies only to that invoice, and only
> as long as the invoice's tab is open. If I close the invoice's tab and
> reopen I get a narrow date fields again.  Creating a new invoice also
> results in a narrow date field.  As far as I can tell no adjustment to
> field widths is carried forward to subsequent invoices.
> >>
> >> Date order has no effect - MDY is also chopped off for me.
> >>
> >> I'm on macOS Mojave, GC 3.6 - Build ID: 3.6+(2019-06-29)
> >>
> >> - Axel
> >
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Re: [GNC] Invoice date field starts too narrow

[Geert Janssens]

Op zondag 15 december 2019 00:14:56 CET schreef David Carlson:
> David H, you have a good memory.  I found <
> https://bugs.gnucash.org/show_bug.cgi?id=796736> which shows the same
> problem with the date.  However, the penultimate comment by John Ralls
> states that when the size is manually set it should stick for subsequent
> use.  I personally have found that it is necessary to also manually click
> on the File > Save button to really make such changes stick.  If there has
> been an auto save somewhere along the line so that it is impossible to do a
> manual save, then it may be lost.  I thought I had filed a bug report for
> that but now I cannot find it.
> 
As far as I know save and autosave do the exact same thing.

However the settings are saved *per account* and probably also per invoice 
(haven't checked the last part).

The reasoning behind that is/was that the most common case to want to change 
the width of a column would be a description or memo field that's too narrow. 
That's typically not the same in all account registers, so it would only make 
sense to widen the account in which the column is too narrow.

The issue with the date field being too small has cropped up after that 
decision was made. I suspect it's a side effect of fixing the register to 
accommodate for Gtk3 and I consider this a bug. The default width should be 
calculated such that both the date and the drop-down arrow for the date fit 
properly in the column. It may be the width of the drop-down arrow is 
dependent on the gtk theme that's active on your system and we may have to 
query for it.

David C, you did report a few bugs related to this column sizing. I remember 
you asked for a way to reset to default widths for example (still a good 
enhancement imo) and possibly also one to apply a certain custom setting as 
default for all other registers. I don't think either of these has been 
implemented so far.

Regards,

Geert


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Re: [GNC] Invoice date field starts too narrow

[Fred Bone]

On 14 December 2019 at 11:51, David Carlson said:

> Now we making some progress!
> 
> Since I do not use invoices and I am also living in the past on release
> 2.6.19 in Linux, my experience is not germane, but I will note that I see
> a tendency in regular account register windows for the date fields (and
> the three amount fields) to change width from week to week, tho they
> usually get wider, and I have not identified a pattern other than the fact
> that it happens in a VirtualBox machine that also seems to change it's
> size from time to time when it is re-booted.

In the light of this I'll jump in.

I'm on 2.6.21, on Windows10. I don't use Invoices. I have never attempted 
to change from the default style options.

In an Account register the date column has (just) enough space for the 
date and the arrow widget.

I have my dates in the sensible -MM-DD (ISO) format, as in every 
other application I use.

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Re: [GNC] Invoice date field starts too narrow

[Axel Essbaum]

Nit: Actually, updating to 3.7 resized all my ~30 already-open invoice's date 
fields back to the default too-narrow.  :-/

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> On 15 Dec 2019, at 09:28, Axel Essbaum  wrote:
> 
> 
> Updated to 3.7.  Date field issue did not change.  Calendar button still 
> pushes date off the left and double-click still collapses date field even 
> further.  And date field with is still not remembered if the invoice tab is 
> closed and reopened.
> 
> - Axel
> 
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> 
> 
> 
>> On 14 Dec 2019, at 19:07, Adrien Monteleone  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hmm... I didn’t notice this back when I was using 3.6 but it might have 
>> happened for me as well.
>> 
>> I’m presently on 3.7 and I’ve since upgraded to Catalina.
>> 
>> Perhaps try 3.7 on Mojave and see if the problem is resolved. (3.7 was 
>> released in September, and another is on the way at the end of this month)
>> 
>> Regards,
>> Adrien
>> 
>>> On Dec 14, 2019 w50d348, at 11:13 AM, Axel Essbaum  wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Manually widening the date field applies only to that invoice, and only as 
>>> long as the invoice's tab is open. If I close the invoice's tab and reopen 
>>> I get a narrow date fields again.  Creating a new invoice also results in a 
>>> narrow date field.  As far as I can tell no adjustment to field widths is 
>>> carried forward to subsequent invoices.
>>> 
>>> Date order has no effect - MDY is also chopped off for me.
>>> 
>>> I'm on macOS Mojave, GC 3.6 - Build ID: 3.6+(2019-06-29)
>>> 
>>> - Axel
>> 
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Re: [GNC] Invoice date field starts too narrow

[Axel Essbaum]

Updated to 3.7.  Date field issue did not change.  Calendar button still pushes 
date off the left and double-click still collapses date field even further.  
And date field with is still not remembered if the invoice tab is closed and 
reopened.

- Axel

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> On 14 Dec 2019, at 19:07, Adrien Monteleone  
> wrote:
> 
> Hmm... I didn’t notice this back when I was using 3.6 but it might have 
> happened for me as well.
> 
> I’m presently on 3.7 and I’ve since upgraded to Catalina.
> 
> Perhaps try 3.7 on Mojave and see if the problem is resolved. (3.7 was 
> released in September, and another is on the way at the end of this month)
> 
> Regards,
> Adrien
> 
>> On Dec 14, 2019 w50d348, at 11:13 AM, Axel Essbaum  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> Manually widening the date field applies only to that invoice, and only as 
>> long as the invoice's tab is open. If I close the invoice's tab and reopen I 
>> get a narrow date fields again.  Creating a new invoice also results in a 
>> narrow date field.  As far as I can tell no adjustment to field widths is 
>> carried forward to subsequent invoices.
>> 
>> Date order has no effect - MDY is also chopped off for me.
>> 
>> I'm on macOS Mojave, GC 3.6 - Build ID: 3.6+(2019-06-29)
>> 
>> - Axel
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Re: [GNC] Invoice date field starts too narrow

[David H]

Haha, less is more, I don't like/use autosave either just save when I want
to so maybe that's why the manual adjustment works ok for me :-)

Cheers Dave H.

On Sun, 15 Dec 2019 at 09:15, David Carlson 
wrote:

> David H, you have a good memory.  I found <
> https://bugs.gnucash.org/show_bug.cgi?id=796736> which shows the same
> problem with the date.  However, the penultimate comment by John Ralls
> states that when the size is manually set it should stick for subsequent
> use.  I personally have found that it is necessary to also manually click
> on the File > Save button to really make such changes stick.  If there has
> been an auto save somewhere along the line so that it is impossible to do a
> manual save, then it may be lost.  I thought I had filed a bug report for
> that but now I cannot find it.
>
> David Carlson
>
> On Sat, Dec 14, 2019 at 4:44 PM David H  wrote:
>
>> I don't use any of the business features/invoices either but this is the
>> default behaviour in normal account register windows on Win 10 as well.  I
>> get around it by manually widening all date columns to allow for the drop
>> down arrow when the date is highlighted.  If I double click the header to
>> autosize it the days are dropped off and instead of seeing 15/12/2019
>> (dd/mm/ccyy) and the drop down arrow I get /12/2019. I thought there'd
>> been
>> a bug/enhancement report raised a couple of years back to fix this
>> behaviour but I could be wrong.
>>
>> Cheers Dave H.
>>
>>
>> On Sun, 15 Dec 2019 at 04:11, Adrien Monteleone <
>> adrien.montele...@lusfiber.net> wrote:
>>
>> > Hmm... I didn’t notice this back when I was using 3.6 but it might have
>> > happened for me as well.
>> >
>> > I’m presently on 3.7 and I’ve since upgraded to Catalina.
>> >
>> > Perhaps try 3.7 on Mojave and see if the problem is resolved. (3.7 was
>> > released in September, and another is on the way at the end of this
>> month)
>> >
>> > Regards,
>> > Adrien
>> >
>> > > On Dec 14, 2019 w50d348, at 11:13 AM, Axel Essbaum 
>> > wrote:
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > Manually widening the date field applies only to that invoice, and
>> only
>> > as long as the invoice's tab is open. If I close the invoice's tab and
>> > reopen I get a narrow date fields again.  Creating a new invoice also
>> > results in a narrow date field.  As far as I can tell no adjustment to
>> > field widths is carried forward to subsequent invoices.
>> > >
>> > > Date order has no effect - MDY is also chopped off for me.
>> > >
>> > > I'm on macOS Mojave, GC 3.6 - Build ID: 3.6+(2019-06-29)
>> > >
>> > > - Axel
>> >
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Re: [GNC] Invoice date field starts too narrow

[David Carlson]

David H, you have a good memory.  I found <
https://bugs.gnucash.org/show_bug.cgi?id=796736> which shows the same
problem with the date.  However, the penultimate comment by John Ralls
states that when the size is manually set it should stick for subsequent
use.  I personally have found that it is necessary to also manually click
on the File > Save button to really make such changes stick.  If there has
been an auto save somewhere along the line so that it is impossible to do a
manual save, then it may be lost.  I thought I had filed a bug report for
that but now I cannot find it.

David Carlson

On Sat, Dec 14, 2019 at 4:44 PM David H  wrote:

> I don't use any of the business features/invoices either but this is the
> default behaviour in normal account register windows on Win 10 as well.  I
> get around it by manually widening all date columns to allow for the drop
> down arrow when the date is highlighted.  If I double click the header to
> autosize it the days are dropped off and instead of seeing 15/12/2019
> (dd/mm/ccyy) and the drop down arrow I get /12/2019. I thought there'd been
> a bug/enhancement report raised a couple of years back to fix this
> behaviour but I could be wrong.
>
> Cheers Dave H.
>
>
> On Sun, 15 Dec 2019 at 04:11, Adrien Monteleone <
> adrien.montele...@lusfiber.net> wrote:
>
> > Hmm... I didn’t notice this back when I was using 3.6 but it might have
> > happened for me as well.
> >
> > I’m presently on 3.7 and I’ve since upgraded to Catalina.
> >
> > Perhaps try 3.7 on Mojave and see if the problem is resolved. (3.7 was
> > released in September, and another is on the way at the end of this
> month)
> >
> > Regards,
> > Adrien
> >
> > > On Dec 14, 2019 w50d348, at 11:13 AM, Axel Essbaum 
> > wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > Manually widening the date field applies only to that invoice, and only
> > as long as the invoice's tab is open. If I close the invoice's tab and
> > reopen I get a narrow date fields again.  Creating a new invoice also
> > results in a narrow date field.  As far as I can tell no adjustment to
> > field widths is carried forward to subsequent invoices.
> > >
> > > Date order has no effect - MDY is also chopped off for me.
> > >
> > > I'm on macOS Mojave, GC 3.6 - Build ID: 3.6+(2019-06-29)
> > >
> > > - Axel
> >
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Re: [GNC] Invoice date field starts too narrow

[David H]

I don't use any of the business features/invoices either but this is the
default behaviour in normal account register windows on Win 10 as well.  I
get around it by manually widening all date columns to allow for the drop
down arrow when the date is highlighted.  If I double click the header to
autosize it the days are dropped off and instead of seeing 15/12/2019
(dd/mm/ccyy) and the drop down arrow I get /12/2019. I thought there'd been
a bug/enhancement report raised a couple of years back to fix this
behaviour but I could be wrong.

Cheers Dave H.


On Sun, 15 Dec 2019 at 04:11, Adrien Monteleone <
adrien.montele...@lusfiber.net> wrote:

> Hmm... I didn’t notice this back when I was using 3.6 but it might have
> happened for me as well.
>
> I’m presently on 3.7 and I’ve since upgraded to Catalina.
>
> Perhaps try 3.7 on Mojave and see if the problem is resolved. (3.7 was
> released in September, and another is on the way at the end of this month)
>
> Regards,
> Adrien
>
> > On Dec 14, 2019 w50d348, at 11:13 AM, Axel Essbaum 
> wrote:
> >
> >
> > Manually widening the date field applies only to that invoice, and only
> as long as the invoice's tab is open. If I close the invoice's tab and
> reopen I get a narrow date fields again.  Creating a new invoice also
> results in a narrow date field.  As far as I can tell no adjustment to
> field widths is carried forward to subsequent invoices.
> >
> > Date order has no effect - MDY is also chopped off for me.
> >
> > I'm on macOS Mojave, GC 3.6 - Build ID: 3.6+(2019-06-29)
> >
> > - Axel
>
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Re: [GNC] Invoice date field starts too narrow

[Adrien Monteleone]

Hmm... I didn’t notice this back when I was using 3.6 but it might have 
happened for me as well.

I’m presently on 3.7 and I’ve since upgraded to Catalina.

Perhaps try 3.7 on Mojave and see if the problem is resolved. (3.7 was released 
in September, and another is on the way at the end of this month)

Regards,
Adrien

> On Dec 14, 2019 w50d348, at 11:13 AM, Axel Essbaum  wrote:
> 
> 
> Manually widening the date field applies only to that invoice, and only as 
> long as the invoice's tab is open. If I close the invoice's tab and reopen I 
> get a narrow date fields again.  Creating a new invoice also results in a 
> narrow date field.  As far as I can tell no adjustment to field widths is 
> carried forward to subsequent invoices.
> 
> Date order has no effect - MDY is also chopped off for me.
> 
> I'm on macOS Mojave, GC 3.6 - Build ID: 3.6+(2019-06-29)
> 
> - Axel

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Re: [GNC] Invoice date field starts too narrow

[David Carlson]

When I asked about date format I was mainly fishing for more details about
when and how this happens.  I too have changing widths but I see that
mostly when I copy the GCM stuff from one machine to another with a
different display size, so I write it off to that, where it would be
expected.

David Carlson

On Sat, Dec 14, 2019 at 11:46 AM D via gnucash-user <
gnucash-user@gnucash.org> wrote:

> Why would the format of the date have any effect on this? Whether it is
> 12/12/2019 or 12/12/2019, the sequence of elements is immaterial.
>
> I should clarify that I see this in the registers, not invoices. I should
> also say that it appears to me that the column width gets set, and then the
> drop down widget gets super imposed on the column, pushing data off screen.
> I have seen similar behavior in other apps, though, so I have always
> chalked it up to an annoying but unavoidable behavior.
>
> David
>
> On December 14, 2019, at 10:38 PM, Adrien Monteleone <
> adrien.montele...@lusfiber.net> wrote:
>
> Ah, now I understand.
>
> Curious that it doesn’t show the entire first part of the date by default.
> (it does for me)
>
> If you manually make the column wide enough to show the full date, (drag
> the right-hand header divider to the right) and then post that invoice,
> does the next new invoice carry over that width or does it default back to
> truncating?
>
> Like David C., I’m also curious to know if MDY instead of DMY order has
> any effect for you. (I use MDY) That would help narrow down the cause.
>
> Regards,
> Adrien
>
> > On Dec 14, 2019 w50d348, at 7:48 AM, Axel Essbaum 
> wrote:
> >
> >
> > What is the date for the bottom line (the line with the widget) in the
> image?  It appears to be 1.12.19 but it's actually 11.12.19 (the first "1"
> is chopped off and not visible).
> >
> > - Axel
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Re: [GNC] Invoice date field starts too narrow

[David Carlson]

Now we making some progress!

Since I do not use invoices and I am also living in the past on release
2.6.19 in Linux, my experience is not germane, but I will note that I see a
tendency in regular account register windows for the date fields (and the
three amount fields) to change width from week to week, tho they usually
get wider, and I have not identified a pattern other than the fact that it
happens in a VirtualBox machine that also seems to change it's size from
time to time when it is re-booted.

David Carlson

On Sat, Dec 14, 2019 at 11:15 AM Axel Essbaum  wrote:

>
> Manually widening the date field applies only to that invoice, and only as
> long as the invoice's tab is open. If I close the invoice's tab and reopen
> I get a narrow date fields again.  Creating a new invoice also results in a
> narrow date field.  As far as I can tell no adjustment to field widths is
> carried forward to subsequent invoices.
>
> Date order has no effect - MDY is also chopped off for me.
>
> I'm on macOS Mojave, GC 3.6 - Build ID: 3.6+(2019-06-29)
>
> - Axel
>
> —
> Axel Essbaum
> a...@essbaum.com
>
>
>
> > On 14 Dec 2019, at 18:07, Adrien Monteleone <
> adrien.montele...@lusfiber.net> wrote:
> >
> > Ah, now I understand.
> >
> > Curious that it doesn’t show the entire first part of the date by
> default. (it does for me)
> >
> > If you manually make the column wide enough to show the full date, (drag
> the right-hand header divider to the right) and then post that invoice,
> does the next new invoice carry over that width or does it default back to
> truncating?
> >
> > Like David C., I’m also curious to know if MDY instead of DMY order has
> any effect for you. (I use MDY) That would help narrow down the cause.
> >
> > Regards,
> > Adrien
> >
> >> On Dec 14, 2019 w50d348, at 7:48 AM, Axel Essbaum 
> wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >> What is the date for the bottom line (the line with the widget) in the
> image?  It appears to be 1.12.19 but it's actually 11.12.19 (the first "1"
> is chopped off and not visible).
> >>
> >> - Axel
> >
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Re: [GNC] Invoice date field starts too narrow

[D via gnucash-user]

Why would the format of the date have any effect on this? Whether it is 
12/12/2019 or 12/12/2019, the sequence of elements is immaterial.

I should clarify that I see this in the registers, not invoices. I should also 
say that it appears to me that the column width gets set, and then the drop 
down widget gets super imposed on the column, pushing data off screen. I have 
seen similar behavior in other apps, though, so I have always chalked it up to 
an annoying but unavoidable behavior.

David

On December 14, 2019, at 10:38 PM, Adrien Monteleone 
 wrote:

Ah, now I understand.

Curious that it doesn’t show the entire first part of the date by default. (it 
does for me)

If you manually make the column wide enough to show the full date, (drag the 
right-hand header divider to the right) and then post that invoice, does the 
next new invoice carry over that width or does it default back to truncating?

Like David C., I’m also curious to know if MDY instead of DMY order has any 
effect for you. (I use MDY) That would help narrow down the cause.

Regards,
Adrien

> On Dec 14, 2019 w50d348, at 7:48 AM, Axel Essbaum  wrote:
> 
> 
> What is the date for the bottom line (the line with the widget) in the image? 
>  It appears to be 1.12.19 but it's actually 11.12.19 (the first "1" is 
> chopped off and not visible).
> 
> - Axel

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Re: [GNC] Invoice date field starts too narrow

[Axel Essbaum]

Manually widening the date field applies only to that invoice, and only as long 
as the invoice's tab is open. If I close the invoice's tab and reopen I get a 
narrow date fields again.  Creating a new invoice also results in a narrow date 
field.  As far as I can tell no adjustment to field widths is carried forward 
to subsequent invoices.

Date order has no effect - MDY is also chopped off for me.

I'm on macOS Mojave, GC 3.6 - Build ID: 3.6+(2019-06-29)

- Axel

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> On 14 Dec 2019, at 18:07, Adrien Monteleone  
> wrote:
> 
> Ah, now I understand.
> 
> Curious that it doesn’t show the entire first part of the date by default. 
> (it does for me)
> 
> If you manually make the column wide enough to show the full date, (drag the 
> right-hand header divider to the right) and then post that invoice, does the 
> next new invoice carry over that width or does it default back to truncating?
> 
> Like David C., I’m also curious to know if MDY instead of DMY order has any 
> effect for you. (I use MDY) That would help narrow down the cause.
> 
> Regards,
> Adrien
> 
>> On Dec 14, 2019 w50d348, at 7:48 AM, Axel Essbaum  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> What is the date for the bottom line (the line with the widget) in the 
>> image?  It appears to be 1.12.19 but it's actually 11.12.19 (the first "1" 
>> is chopped off and not visible).
>> 
>> - Axel
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Re: [GNC] Invoice date field starts too narrow

[Adrien Monteleone]

Ah, now I understand.

Curious that it doesn’t show the entire first part of the date by default. (it 
does for me)

If you manually make the column wide enough to show the full date, (drag the 
right-hand header divider to the right) and then post that invoice, does the 
next new invoice carry over that width or does it default back to truncating?

Like David C., I’m also curious to know if MDY instead of DMY order has any 
effect for you. (I use MDY) That would help narrow down the cause.

Regards,
Adrien

> On Dec 14, 2019 w50d348, at 7:48 AM, Axel Essbaum  wrote:
> 
> 
> What is the date for the bottom line (the line with the widget) in the image? 
>  It appears to be 1.12.19 but it's actually 11.12.19 (the first "1" is 
> chopped off and not visible).
> 
> - Axel

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Re: [GNC] Invoice date field starts too narrow

[Axel Essbaum]

I use day.month.year (Europe).  PDFs are ok - I see no correlation between the 
column widths within GC and how the PDF appears.

Changing to US format doesn't help.  See below.  It looks like today is 
February 14th!

http://essbaum.com/images/US.png

- Axel

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> On 14 Dec 2019, at 17:36, David Carlson  wrote:
> 
> David T,
> 
> Since you are seeing the same issue as Axel, I have to ask:  Do you use a 
> Day/Month/Year date format or Month/Day/Year?  Does that make a difference?
> 
> and for both David and Axel,  When invoices are printed, are the printouts 
> also cut off?
> 
> There has been a lot of discussion here but so far, no action to define a 
> basis for a bug report, which appears to be sorely needed.
> 
> David Carlson
> 
> 
> David Carlson
> 
> 
> 
> On Sat, Dec 14, 2019 at 7:51 AM Axel Essbaum  > wrote:
> 
> What is the date for the bottom line (the line with the widget) in the image? 
>  It appears to be 1.12.19 but it's actually 11.12.19 (the first "1" is 
> chopped off and not visible).
> 
> - Axel
> 
> —
> Axel Essbaum
> a...@essbaum.com 
> 
> 
> 
> > On 14 Dec 2019, at 14:10, Adrien Monteleone  > > wrote:
> > 
> > If the first image is the default, (as it is for me) what is the problem? 
> > Every part of the date is visible even with the widget.
> > 
> > Regards,
> > Adrien
> > 
> >> On Dec 14, 2019 w50d348, at 2:37 AM, Axel Essbaum  >> > wrote:
> >> 
> >> 
> >> When I double-click the date header the date field shrinks to the width of 
> >> the date text (xx.xx.), which is actually worse than how it started.
> >> 
> >> First image is how the date field is sized when I create an invoice
> >> 
> >> http://essbaum.com/images/GC_before.png 
> >> 
> >> After date field double click:
> >> 
> >> http://essbaum.com/images/GC_after.png 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> :-(
> >> 
> >> - Axel
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Re: [GNC] Invoice date field starts too narrow

[David Carlson]

David T,

Since you are seeing the same issue as Axel, I have to ask:  Do you use a
Day/Month/Year date format or Month/Day/Year?  Does that make a difference?

and for both David and Axel,  When invoices are printed, are the printouts
also cut off?

There has been a lot of discussion here but so far, no action to define a
basis for a bug report, which appears to be sorely needed.

David Carlson


David Carlson



On Sat, Dec 14, 2019 at 7:51 AM Axel Essbaum  wrote:

>
> What is the date for the bottom line (the line with the widget) in the
> image?  It appears to be 1.12.19 but it's actually 11.12.19 (the first "1"
> is chopped off and not visible).
>
> - Axel
>
> —
> Axel Essbaum
> a...@essbaum.com
>
>
>
> > On 14 Dec 2019, at 14:10, Adrien Monteleone <
> adrien.montele...@lusfiber.net> wrote:
> >
> > If the first image is the default, (as it is for me) what is the
> problem? Every part of the date is visible even with the widget.
> >
> > Regards,
> > Adrien
> >
> >> On Dec 14, 2019 w50d348, at 2:37 AM, Axel Essbaum 
> wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >> When I double-click the date header the date field shrinks to the width
> of the date text (xx.xx.), which is actually worse than how it started.
> >>
> >> First image is how the date field is sized when I create an invoice
> >>
> >> http://essbaum.com/images/GC_before.png
> >> After date field double click:
> >>
> >> http://essbaum.com/images/GC_after.png
> >>
> >> :-(
> >>
> >> - Axel
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Re: [GNC] Invoice date field starts too narrow

[Axel Essbaum]

What is the date for the bottom line (the line with the widget) in the image?  
It appears to be 1.12.19 but it's actually 11.12.19 (the first "1" is chopped 
off and not visible).

- Axel

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> On 14 Dec 2019, at 14:10, Adrien Monteleone  
> wrote:
> 
> If the first image is the default, (as it is for me) what is the problem? 
> Every part of the date is visible even with the widget.
> 
> Regards,
> Adrien
> 
>> On Dec 14, 2019 w50d348, at 2:37 AM, Axel Essbaum  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> When I double-click the date header the date field shrinks to the width of 
>> the date text (xx.xx.), which is actually worse than how it started.
>> 
>> First image is how the date field is sized when I create an invoice
>> 
>> http://essbaum.com/images/GC_before.png
>> After date field double click:
>> 
>> http://essbaum.com/images/GC_after.png
>> 
>> :-(
>> 
>> - Axel
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Re: [GNC] Invoice date field starts too narrow

[Adrien Monteleone]

If the first image is the default, (as it is for me) what is the problem? Every 
part of the date is visible even with the widget.

Regards,
Adrien

> On Dec 14, 2019 w50d348, at 2:37 AM, Axel Essbaum  wrote:
> 
> 
> When I double-click the date header the date field shrinks to the width of 
> the date text (xx.xx.), which is actually worse than how it started.
> 
> First image is how the date field is sized when I create an invoice
> 
> http://essbaum.com/images/GC_before.png
> After date field double click:
> 
> http://essbaum.com/images/GC_after.png
> 
> :-(
> 
> - Axel

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Re: [GNC] Invoice date field starts too narrow

[Axel Essbaum]

When I double-click the date header the date field shrinks to the width of the 
date text (xx.xx.), which is actually worse than how it started.

First image is how the date field is sized when I create an invoice

http://essbaum.com/images/GC_before.png
After date field double click:

http://essbaum.com/images/GC_after.png 

:-(

- Axel

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> On 13 Dec 2019, at 18:06, Adrien Monteleone  
> wrote:
> 
> Greg,
> 
> Not sure if you saw my previous post.
> 
> Double-clicking the Description column header may not produce the desired 
> result. It will always adjust the column to allow all content to be visible. 
> This might remove padding and shrink the column to remove the scrollbar as 
> you describe, or it might expand it further if a description line is long. 
> (thus making the content wider and the scroll bar even longer)
> 
> The only surefire method I know of to ‘balance’ the width of the window is to 
> drag the right-hand column header divider of the Description column to the 
> left and release it. It will snap to adjust the Description column so as to 
> fit all columns in the visible window.
> 
> Regards,
> Adrien
> 
>> On Dec 13, 2019 w50d347, at 9:51 AM, Greg Feneis  wrote:
>> 
>> Axel,
>> 
>> When you double clicked the date column header, did you follow that with a
>> double click of the description column header?
>> 
>> If the date column is fully in view, but too narrow to display all of the
>> characters in the fields, double clicking its column header might have
>> widened the column, and simultaneously widened the window that holds all of
>> the columns (horizontal scroll bar at the bottom of all the columns
>> appears), causing the left edge of the date column to shift left.  This
>> might have given the appearance of the column collapsing, but it really
>> expanded while moving out of view. You would have to follow that with
>> scrolling all columns to view the entire date column, or double click the
>> description column to normalize the columns' window's width.
>> 
>> You might consider double clicking the column header for description
>> column, but only after you have double clicked the column header for any of
>> the other columns.
>> 
>> 
>> Kind regards, Greg Feneis
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Re: [GNC] Invoice date field starts too narrow

[Greg Feneis]

Axel,

When you double clicked the date column header, did you follow that with a
double click of the description column header?

If the date column is fully in view, but too narrow to display all of the
characters in the fields, double clicking its column header might have
widened the column, and simultaneously widened the window that holds all of
the columns (horizontal scroll bar at the bottom of all the columns
appears), causing the left edge of the date column to shift left.  This
might have given the appearance of the column collapsing, but it really
expanded while moving out of view. You would have to follow that with
scrolling all columns to view the entire date column, or double click the
description column to normalize the columns' window's width.

You might consider double clicking the column header for description
column, but only after you have double clicked the column header for any of
the other columns.


Kind regards, Greg Feneis
(Pixel 3)


On December 12, 2019, at 9:44 PM, Axel Essbaum  wrote:
>
>
> Hi Greg,
>
> Thanks for the suggestion.  Double-clicking on the date header collapses
> the column even further, so that the entire day part of the date (I use
> format day.month.year) on the bottom line disappears off the left side of
> the screen.
>
> :-(
>
> - Axel
>
> —
> Axel Essbaum
> a...@essbaum.com
>
>
>
> > On 12 Dec 2019, at 17:05, Greg Feneis  wrote:
> >
> > No attachment here either, and not a final solution, but I think the
> > invoice columns auto size if you double click on the column header.
> >
> > Double click any column header that's over a too narrow column first,
> then
> > double click the header over the description column and it will give up
> > enough of any excess width to normalize the window width, which should
> > eliminate the horizontal scroll bar.
> >
> > Kind regards, Greg Feneis
> > (Pixel 3)
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Dec 12, 2019, 06:35 David Carlson 
> > wrote:
> >
> >> Axel,
> >>
> >> Your attachment did not make it as far as my inbox, but your
> description is
> >> very clear to me.  However, I am not a developer, and I do not have any
> >> experience to offer suggestions for your issue with GnuCash.  I do not
> know
> >> if it is an issue that is an artifact of the fact that your date format
> is
> >> not the U.S default, for example.
> >>
> >> Good luck.
> >> David Carlson
> >>
> >> On Thu, Dec 12, 2019 at 1:46 AM Axel Essbaum  wrote:
> >>
> >>>
> >>> Trying again with attachment at the very end.
> >>>
> >>> GC retains the column width for each invoice over the life of that
> >>> invoice.  The issue is that new invoices don't inherit any of this -
> they
> >>> all start with a narrow date field.
> >>>
> >>> See at the bottom (I hope). I can't tell if  the date of the bottom
> line
> >>> is 01.12.2019 or 11.12 or 21.12, etc. without clicking on the calendar
> >>> selector.  So I widen the Date field, and then shrink some other field
> to
> >>> remove the created horizontal scrollbar.  For every invoice I create.
> >>>
> >>> Thanks,
> >>>
> >>> - Axel
> >>>
> >>> —
> >>> Axel Essbaum
> >>> a...@essbaum.com
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
>  On 12 Dec 2019, at 05:17, John Ralls  wrote:
> 
>  Axel,
> 
>  Also make sure they're on the end of the email after all text
> including
> >>> signatures. The list server eats inline attachments.
> 
>  GnuCash is supposed to remember things like column widths so that you
> >>> need set them only once. Is that not working for the Invoice date
> >>> column--or perhaps any invoice columns?
> 
>  Regards,
>  John Ralls
> 
> 
> > On Dec 11, 2019, at 3:52 PM, Frank H. Ellenberger <
> >>> frank.h.ellenber...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > Hi Axel
> >
> > Am Mi., 11. Dez. 2019 um 08:53 Uhr schrieb Axel Essbaum <
> >>> a...@essbaum.com>:
> >>
> >>
> >> Hi All,
> >>
> >> MacOS Mojave, GnuCash 3.6.  Pictures say it all (hope this list
> >> allows
> >>> attachments!)
> > :
> > There was no attachment, neither in the mail nor on the server:
> >
> >>>
> >>
> https://lists.gnucash.org/pipermail/gnucash-user/2019-December/088216.html
> >
> > That might be caused by sending mails in HTML format. In text format,
> > attachments should go through.
> >
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Re: [GNC] Invoice date field starts too narrow

[Axel Essbaum]

I agree - ideally we could control which columns are used in invoices.  I never 
use most of them - they are just a waste of space.

As an alternative being able to set initial column width (in pixels, or 
percent, etc.) would be a workaround as we could set columns to 0 or 1 if they 
are not used, and then also set the date field to start wide enough to contain 
the widget + date.

- Axel

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> On 12 Dec 2019, at 18:16, Adrien Monteleone  
> wrote:
> 
> Double-clicking a column header sizes it to fit the contents. (at least for 
> me)
> 
> This means my Date column shrunk slightly because I had some padding.
> 
> But doing this on the Description column didn’t cause it to adjust to fit the 
> window, it caused it to expand and gave me a scroll bar that wasn’t there 
> before.
> 
> The only way I know of to eliminate the scroll bar is to drag & release the 
> right Description divider to the left and it will snap into place so the 
> scroll bar disappears.
> 
> Ideally though, would be to choose which columns are visible like in the CoA 
> because there are plenty of columns I never use or need. (Yes, I can make 
> them nearly 1 pixel, I know.)
> 
> Regards,
> Adrien
> 
>> On Dec 12, 2019 w50d346, at 10:05 AM, Greg Feneis  wrote:
>> 
>> No attachment here either, and not a final solution, but I think the
>> invoice columns auto size if you double click on the column header.
>> 
>> Double click any column header that's over a too narrow column first, then
>> double click the header over the description column and it will give up
>> enough of any excess width to normalize the window width, which should
>> eliminate the horizontal scroll bar.
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Re: [GNC] Invoice date field starts too narrow

[David Carlson]

My experience is limited to register displays in releases up to 2.6.19, so
I do not expect details to be identical.

GnuCash uses variable width fonts so the digit one is less wide than other
digits.  Any date with a one in it is less wide than other dates, and about
a third of all dates have single digit day numbers, a third have the digit
one with another digit, and a third have the digit two or three with
another digit.  Two digit year formats are also less wide.

I think the Gnome graphic renderer counts pixels when deciding how wide a
string actually is . So GnuCash actually has no control over that anyway.

David Carlson

On Thu, Dec 12, 2019, 1:46 PM Adrien Monteleone <
adrien.montele...@lusfiber.net> wrote:

>
>
> > On Dec 12, 2019 w50d346, at 1:35 PM, David Carlson <
> david.carlson@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > How would the code know how wide the entire date is when it may take
> months to see a date with all wide digits when only selected dates appear.
> Date field also randomly expands when that pesky calendar widget appears.
>
> Not sure what you mean by ‘wide digits’.
>
> I always see four digits for the year and 2 for both month and day. I
> can’t even find a setting to change that. (in GnuCash or in MacOS)
>
> But my guess would be that it would either check or store the size of the
> displayed date. How does it know how to size the column now when you double
> click? Certainly it either knows or checks the size of the content.
>
> Yes, invoices are different. The widget overlays the date, it doesn’t
> cause the column to grow. If you want to see the whole date with the
> overlay, you have to manually resize the column, but then you get padding
> in that column which may generate a scroll bar.
>
> I don’t think anything in this thread is concerning registers or any
> suggestions to change how they work. The topic was about invoices.
>
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Re: [GNC] Invoice date field starts too narrow

[Adrien Monteleone]

> On Dec 12, 2019 w50d346, at 1:35 PM, David Carlson 
>  wrote:
> 
> How would the code know how wide the entire date is when it may take months 
> to see a date with all wide digits when only selected dates appear.  Date 
> field also randomly expands when that pesky calendar widget appears.

Not sure what you mean by ‘wide digits’.

I always see four digits for the year and 2 for both month and day. I can’t 
even find a setting to change that. (in GnuCash or in MacOS)

But my guess would be that it would either check or store the size of the 
displayed date. How does it know how to size the column now when you double 
click? Certainly it either knows or checks the size of the content.

Yes, invoices are different. The widget overlays the date, it doesn’t cause the 
column to grow. If you want to see the whole date with the overlay, you have to 
manually resize the column, but then you get padding in that column which may 
generate a scroll bar.

I don’t think anything in this thread is concerning registers or any 
suggestions to change how they work. The topic was about invoices.

Regards,
Adrien
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Re: [GNC] Invoice date field starts too narrow

[David Carlson]

How would the code know how wide the entire date is when it may take months
to see a date with all wide digits when only selected dates appear.  Date
field also randomly expands when that pesky calendar widget appears.

Value fields at least seem to get properly fitted and. Stay fitted for a
long time.

Also, maybe invoices follow different style rules than registers.  I don't
use them so I don't know about that.


David Carlson

On Thu, Dec 12, 2019, 11:29 AM Adrien Monteleone <
adrien.montele...@lusfiber.net> wrote:

> I just tested this on a new invoice. Sure enough, the column does shrink
> to fit, but it doesn’t take into account the down arrow calendar widget
> which overlays the date.
>
> This is a tough design choice.
>
> Should the widget have forced padding? If so, then people with not as wide
> screens will complain that they get horizontal scroll bars and don’t want
> to have to adjust their Description column each time.
>
> Should the widget overlay the date? Then it might hide part of the date if
> the column is not wide enough.
>
> I think the current approach is sane - the column *should* be wide enough
> by default so that the widget does not cover any part of the date. If not,
> maybe you accidentally shrunk it on a previous invoice. Also, the widget
> only shows for the currently focused date field. Tab off it and the widget
> should disappear.
>
> The only ‘flaw’ might be that the double-click on the header doesn’t
> factor in the widget, but again, the user might intend to make the column
> tight enough to hold just the date, with no widget padding. The only way
> around this conundrum might be to overlay the widget into the column to the
> right. But there again, I’m sure someone will take exception.
>
> Regards,
> Adrien
>
> > On Dec 12, 2019 w50d346, at 10:12 AM, Axel Essbaum 
> wrote:
> >
> >
> > Hi Greg,
> >
> > Thanks for the suggestion.  Double-clicking on the date header collapses
> the column even further, so that the entire day part of the date (I use
> format day.month.year) on the bottom line disappears off the left side of
> the screen.
> >
>
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Re: [GNC] Invoice date field starts too narrow

[Adrien Monteleone]

I just tested this on a new invoice. Sure enough, the column does shrink to 
fit, but it doesn’t take into account the down arrow calendar widget which 
overlays the date.

This is a tough design choice.

Should the widget have forced padding? If so, then people with not as wide 
screens will complain that they get horizontal scroll bars and don’t want to 
have to adjust their Description column each time.

Should the widget overlay the date? Then it might hide part of the date if the 
column is not wide enough.

I think the current approach is sane - the column *should* be wide enough by 
default so that the widget does not cover any part of the date. If not, maybe 
you accidentally shrunk it on a previous invoice. Also, the widget only shows 
for the currently focused date field. Tab off it and the widget should 
disappear.

The only ‘flaw’ might be that the double-click on the header doesn’t factor in 
the widget, but again, the user might intend to make the column tight enough to 
hold just the date, with no widget padding. The only way around this conundrum 
might be to overlay the widget into the column to the right. But there again, 
I’m sure someone will take exception.

Regards,
Adrien

> On Dec 12, 2019 w50d346, at 10:12 AM, Axel Essbaum  wrote:
> 
> 
> Hi Greg,
> 
> Thanks for the suggestion.  Double-clicking on the date header collapses the 
> column even further, so that the entire day part of the date (I use format 
> day.month.year) on the bottom line disappears off the left side of the screen.
> 


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Re: [GNC] Invoice date field starts too narrow

[Adrien Monteleone]

Double-clicking a column header sizes it to fit the contents. (at least for me)

This means my Date column shrunk slightly because I had some padding.

But doing this on the Description column didn’t cause it to adjust to fit the 
window, it caused it to expand and gave me a scroll bar that wasn’t there 
before.

The only way I know of to eliminate the scroll bar is to drag & release the 
right Description divider to the left and it will snap into place so the scroll 
bar disappears.

Ideally though, would be to choose which columns are visible like in the CoA 
because there are plenty of columns I never use or need. (Yes, I can make them 
nearly 1 pixel, I know.)

Regards,
Adrien

> On Dec 12, 2019 w50d346, at 10:05 AM, Greg Feneis  wrote:
> 
> No attachment here either, and not a final solution, but I think the
> invoice columns auto size if you double click on the column header.
> 
> Double click any column header that's over a too narrow column first, then
> double click the header over the description column and it will give up
> enough of any excess width to normalize the window width, which should
> eliminate the horizontal scroll bar.

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Re: [GNC] Invoice date field starts too narrow

[D via gnucash-user]

Axel, 

Just to confirm that you're not going crazy, I've seen the same behavior on the 
date field for a long time. As you describe, the date field width is optimized 
for display without the drop down triangle; the triangle causes erroneous 
display as you describe. I seem to fecal that the register does not remember 
your setting from session to session, but I could be misremembering.  My only 
fix has been to manually adjust the date column width.

David

On December 12, 2019, at 9:44 PM, Axel Essbaum  wrote:


Hi Greg,

Thanks for the suggestion.  Double-clicking on the date header collapses the 
column even further, so that the entire day part of the date (I use format 
day.month.year) on the bottom line disappears off the left side of the screen.

:-(

- Axel

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a...@essbaum.com



> On 12 Dec 2019, at 17:05, Greg Feneis  wrote:
> 
> No attachment here either, and not a final solution, but I think the
> invoice columns auto size if you double click on the column header.
> 
> Double click any column header that's over a too narrow column first, then
> double click the header over the description column and it will give up
> enough of any excess width to normalize the window width, which should
> eliminate the horizontal scroll bar.
> 
> Kind regards, Greg Feneis
> (Pixel 3)
> 
> 
> On Thu, Dec 12, 2019, 06:35 David Carlson 
> wrote:
> 
>> Axel,
>> 
>> Your attachment did not make it as far as my inbox, but your description is
>> very clear to me.  However, I am not a developer, and I do not have any
>> experience to offer suggestions for your issue with GnuCash.  I do not know
>> if it is an issue that is an artifact of the fact that your date format is
>> not the U.S default, for example.
>> 
>> Good luck.
>> David Carlson
>> 
>> On Thu, Dec 12, 2019 at 1:46 AM Axel Essbaum  wrote:
>> 
>>> 
>>> Trying again with attachment at the very end.
>>> 
>>> GC retains the column width for each invoice over the life of that
>>> invoice.  The issue is that new invoices don't inherit any of this - they
>>> all start with a narrow date field.
>>> 
>>> See at the bottom (I hope). I can't tell if  the date of the bottom line
>>> is 01.12.2019 or 11.12 or 21.12, etc. without clicking on the calendar
>>> selector.  So I widen the Date field, and then shrink some other field to
>>> remove the created horizontal scrollbar.  For every invoice I create.
>>> 
>>> Thanks,
>>> 
>>> - Axel
>>> 
>>> —
>>> Axel Essbaum
>>> a...@essbaum.com
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
 On 12 Dec 2019, at 05:17, John Ralls  wrote:
 
 Axel,
 
 Also make sure they're on the end of the email after all text including
>>> signatures. The list server eats inline attachments.
 
 GnuCash is supposed to remember things like column widths so that you
>>> need set them only once. Is that not working for the Invoice date
>>> column--or perhaps any invoice columns?
 
 Regards,
 John Ralls
 
 
> On Dec 11, 2019, at 3:52 PM, Frank H. Ellenberger <
>>> frank.h.ellenber...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Hi Axel
> 
> Am Mi., 11. Dez. 2019 um 08:53 Uhr schrieb Axel Essbaum <
>>> a...@essbaum.com>:
>> 
>> 
>> Hi All,
>> 
>> MacOS Mojave, GnuCash 3.6.  Pictures say it all (hope this list
>> allows
>>> attachments!)
> :
> There was no attachment, neither in the mail nor on the server:
> 
>>> 
>> https://lists.gnucash.org/pipermail/gnucash-user/2019-December/088216.html
> 
> That might be caused by sending mails in HTML format. In text format,
> attachments should go through.
> 
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Re: [GNC] Invoice date field starts too narrow

[Axel Essbaum]

Hi Greg,

Thanks for the suggestion.  Double-clicking on the date header collapses the 
column even further, so that the entire day part of the date (I use format 
day.month.year) on the bottom line disappears off the left side of the screen.

:-(

- Axel

—
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a...@essbaum.com



> On 12 Dec 2019, at 17:05, Greg Feneis  wrote:
> 
> No attachment here either, and not a final solution, but I think the
> invoice columns auto size if you double click on the column header.
> 
> Double click any column header that's over a too narrow column first, then
> double click the header over the description column and it will give up
> enough of any excess width to normalize the window width, which should
> eliminate the horizontal scroll bar.
> 
> Kind regards, Greg Feneis
> (Pixel 3)
> 
> 
> On Thu, Dec 12, 2019, 06:35 David Carlson 
> wrote:
> 
>> Axel,
>> 
>> Your attachment did not make it as far as my inbox, but your description is
>> very clear to me.  However, I am not a developer, and I do not have any
>> experience to offer suggestions for your issue with GnuCash.  I do not know
>> if it is an issue that is an artifact of the fact that your date format is
>> not the U.S default, for example.
>> 
>> Good luck.
>> David Carlson
>> 
>> On Thu, Dec 12, 2019 at 1:46 AM Axel Essbaum  wrote:
>> 
>>> 
>>> Trying again with attachment at the very end.
>>> 
>>> GC retains the column width for each invoice over the life of that
>>> invoice.  The issue is that new invoices don't inherit any of this - they
>>> all start with a narrow date field.
>>> 
>>> See at the bottom (I hope). I can't tell if  the date of the bottom line
>>> is 01.12.2019 or 11.12 or 21.12, etc. without clicking on the calendar
>>> selector.  So I widen the Date field, and then shrink some other field to
>>> remove the created horizontal scrollbar.  For every invoice I create.
>>> 
>>> Thanks,
>>> 
>>> - Axel
>>> 
>>> —
>>> Axel Essbaum
>>> a...@essbaum.com
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
 On 12 Dec 2019, at 05:17, John Ralls  wrote:
 
 Axel,
 
 Also make sure they're on the end of the email after all text including
>>> signatures. The list server eats inline attachments.
 
 GnuCash is supposed to remember things like column widths so that you
>>> need set them only once. Is that not working for the Invoice date
>>> column--or perhaps any invoice columns?
 
 Regards,
 John Ralls
 
 
> On Dec 11, 2019, at 3:52 PM, Frank H. Ellenberger <
>>> frank.h.ellenber...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Hi Axel
> 
> Am Mi., 11. Dez. 2019 um 08:53 Uhr schrieb Axel Essbaum <
>>> a...@essbaum.com>:
>> 
>> 
>> Hi All,
>> 
>> MacOS Mojave, GnuCash 3.6.  Pictures say it all (hope this list
>> allows
>>> attachments!)
> :
> There was no attachment, neither in the mail nor on the server:
> 
>>> 
>> https://lists.gnucash.org/pipermail/gnucash-user/2019-December/088216.html
> 
> That might be caused by sending mails in HTML format. In text format,
> attachments should go through.
> 
> Regards
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Re: [GNC] Invoice date field starts too narrow

[Greg Feneis]

No attachment here either, and not a final solution, but I think the
invoice columns auto size if you double click on the column header.

Double click any column header that's over a too narrow column first, then
double click the header over the description column and it will give up
enough of any excess width to normalize the window width, which should
eliminate the horizontal scroll bar.

Kind regards, Greg Feneis
(Pixel 3)


On Thu, Dec 12, 2019, 06:35 David Carlson 
wrote:

> Axel,
>
> Your attachment did not make it as far as my inbox, but your description is
> very clear to me.  However, I am not a developer, and I do not have any
> experience to offer suggestions for your issue with GnuCash.  I do not know
> if it is an issue that is an artifact of the fact that your date format is
> not the U.S default, for example.
>
> Good luck.
> David Carlson
>
> On Thu, Dec 12, 2019 at 1:46 AM Axel Essbaum  wrote:
>
> >
> > Trying again with attachment at the very end.
> >
> > GC retains the column width for each invoice over the life of that
> > invoice.  The issue is that new invoices don't inherit any of this - they
> > all start with a narrow date field.
> >
> > See at the bottom (I hope). I can't tell if  the date of the bottom line
> > is 01.12.2019 or 11.12 or 21.12, etc. without clicking on the calendar
> > selector.  So I widen the Date field, and then shrink some other field to
> > remove the created horizontal scrollbar.  For every invoice I create.
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > - Axel
> >
> > —
> > Axel Essbaum
> > a...@essbaum.com
> >
> >
> >
> > > On 12 Dec 2019, at 05:17, John Ralls  wrote:
> > >
> > > Axel,
> > >
> > > Also make sure they're on the end of the email after all text including
> > signatures. The list server eats inline attachments.
> > >
> > > GnuCash is supposed to remember things like column widths so that you
> > need set them only once. Is that not working for the Invoice date
> > column--or perhaps any invoice columns?
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > > John Ralls
> > >
> > >
> > >> On Dec 11, 2019, at 3:52 PM, Frank H. Ellenberger <
> > frank.h.ellenber...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >>
> > >> Hi Axel
> > >>
> > >> Am Mi., 11. Dez. 2019 um 08:53 Uhr schrieb Axel Essbaum <
> > a...@essbaum.com>:
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> Hi All,
> > >>>
> > >>> MacOS Mojave, GnuCash 3.6.  Pictures say it all (hope this list
> allows
> > attachments!)
> > >> :
> > >> There was no attachment, neither in the mail nor on the server:
> > >>
> >
> https://lists.gnucash.org/pipermail/gnucash-user/2019-December/088216.html
> > >>
> > >> That might be caused by sending mails in HTML format. In text format,
> > >> attachments should go through.
> > >>
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Re: [GNC] Invoice date field starts too narrow

[David Carlson]

Axel,

Your attachment did not make it as far as my inbox, but your description is
very clear to me.  However, I am not a developer, and I do not have any
experience to offer suggestions for your issue with GnuCash.  I do not know
if it is an issue that is an artifact of the fact that your date format is
not the U.S default, for example.

Good luck.
David Carlson

On Thu, Dec 12, 2019 at 1:46 AM Axel Essbaum  wrote:

>
> Trying again with attachment at the very end.
>
> GC retains the column width for each invoice over the life of that
> invoice.  The issue is that new invoices don't inherit any of this - they
> all start with a narrow date field.
>
> See at the bottom (I hope). I can't tell if  the date of the bottom line
> is 01.12.2019 or 11.12 or 21.12, etc. without clicking on the calendar
> selector.  So I widen the Date field, and then shrink some other field to
> remove the created horizontal scrollbar.  For every invoice I create.
>
> Thanks,
>
> - Axel
>
> —
> Axel Essbaum
> a...@essbaum.com
>
>
>
> > On 12 Dec 2019, at 05:17, John Ralls  wrote:
> >
> > Axel,
> >
> > Also make sure they're on the end of the email after all text including
> signatures. The list server eats inline attachments.
> >
> > GnuCash is supposed to remember things like column widths so that you
> need set them only once. Is that not working for the Invoice date
> column--or perhaps any invoice columns?
> >
> > Regards,
> > John Ralls
> >
> >
> >> On Dec 11, 2019, at 3:52 PM, Frank H. Ellenberger <
> frank.h.ellenber...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> Hi Axel
> >>
> >> Am Mi., 11. Dez. 2019 um 08:53 Uhr schrieb Axel Essbaum <
> a...@essbaum.com>:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Hi All,
> >>>
> >>> MacOS Mojave, GnuCash 3.6.  Pictures say it all (hope this list allows
> attachments!)
> >> :
> >> There was no attachment, neither in the mail nor on the server:
> >>
> https://lists.gnucash.org/pipermail/gnucash-user/2019-December/088216.html
> >>
> >> That might be caused by sending mails in HTML format. In text format,
> >> attachments should go through.
> >>
> >> Regards
> >> Frank
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Re: [GNC] Invoice date field starts too narrow

[Axel Essbaum]

Trying again with attachment at the very end.

GC retains the column width for each invoice over the life of that invoice.  
The issue is that new invoices don't inherit any of this - they all start with 
a narrow date field.

See at the bottom (I hope). I can't tell if  the date of the bottom line is 
01.12.2019 or 11.12 or 21.12, etc. without clicking on the calendar selector.  
So I widen the Date field, and then shrink some other field to remove the 
created horizontal scrollbar.  For every invoice I create.

Thanks,

- Axel

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a...@essbaum.com



> On 12 Dec 2019, at 05:17, John Ralls  wrote:
> 
> Axel,
> 
> Also make sure they're on the end of the email after all text including 
> signatures. The list server eats inline attachments.
> 
> GnuCash is supposed to remember things like column widths so that you need 
> set them only once. Is that not working for the Invoice date column--or 
> perhaps any invoice columns?
> 
> Regards,
> John Ralls
> 
> 
>> On Dec 11, 2019, at 3:52 PM, Frank H. Ellenberger 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Axel
>> 
>> Am Mi., 11. Dez. 2019 um 08:53 Uhr schrieb Axel Essbaum :
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Hi All,
>>> 
>>> MacOS Mojave, GnuCash 3.6.  Pictures say it all (hope this list allows 
>>> attachments!)
>> :
>> There was no attachment, neither in the mail nor on the server:
>> https://lists.gnucash.org/pipermail/gnucash-user/2019-December/088216.html
>> 
>> That might be caused by sending mails in HTML format. In text format,
>> attachments should go through.
>> 
>> Regards
>> Frank
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Re: [GNC] Invoice date field starts too narrow

[John Ralls]

Axel,

Also make sure they're on the end of the email after all text including 
signatures. The list server eats inline attachments.

GnuCash is supposed to remember things like column widths so that you need set 
them only once. Is that not working for the Invoice date column--or perhaps any 
invoice columns?

Regards,
John Ralls


> On Dec 11, 2019, at 3:52 PM, Frank H. Ellenberger 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hi Axel
> 
> Am Mi., 11. Dez. 2019 um 08:53 Uhr schrieb Axel Essbaum :
>> 
>> 
>> Hi All,
>> 
>> MacOS Mojave, GnuCash 3.6.  Pictures say it all (hope this list allows 
>> attachments!)
> :
> There was no attachment, neither in the mail nor on the server:
> https://lists.gnucash.org/pipermail/gnucash-user/2019-December/088216.html
> 
> That might be caused by sending mails in HTML format. In text format,
> attachments should go through.
> 
> Regards
> Frank
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Re: [GNC] Invoice date field starts too narrow

[Frank H. Ellenberger]

Hi Axel

Am Mi., 11. Dez. 2019 um 08:53 Uhr schrieb Axel Essbaum :
>
>
> Hi All,
>
> MacOS Mojave, GnuCash 3.6.  Pictures say it all (hope this list allows 
> attachments!)
:
There was no attachment, neither in the mail nor on the server:
https://lists.gnucash.org/pipermail/gnucash-user/2019-December/088216.html

That might be caused by sending mails in HTML format. In text format,
attachments should go through.

Regards
Frank
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