Re: [Macgpg-users] 1.4.7 packages for OS X
It's not a matter of why not do it yourself but a matter of why isn't it being done kind of question. A graphical installer and uninstaller for the entire suite would be nice. Maybe I will find time to work on it, maybe someone else can too. It is the same kind of question I ask the Mono and MonoDevelop people, who not only did not write MonoDevelop using Windows Forms (they used GTK), but an installation of MonoDevelop for OS X requires a plethora of Fink/DarwinPorts Linux libs installed in order to even begin using the entire package. But that is another story for another list. On Mar 7, 2007, at 6:03 PM, Benjamin Donnachie wrote: Ryan R. LaMothe wrote: How difficult would be it be to package this application as a .app bundle instead of all over the filesystem like the typical Unix application (which makes installing/uninstalling/upgrading a pita)? There's nothing stopping you doing it and making the result available to all. Ben -- --- Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT business topics through brief surveys-and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php? page=join.phpp=sourceforgeCID=DEVDEV ___ Macgpg-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/macgpg-users ___ Gnupg-users mailing list Gnupg-users@gnupg.org http://lists.gnupg.org/mailman/listinfo/gnupg-users
Re: [Macgpg-users] 1.4.7 packages for OS X
It wouldn't make sense to try to package GPG using a .app bundle since GPG itself will most often be used from the command line. As such, you would need to update your PATH environment variable to include a deep reference to something like /Applications/GnuPG/ Content/MacOS/gpg instead of the normal location for user-installed tools (/usr/local). In addition, if you did run it by double-clicking what would that give you since there is no graphical user interface and using the tool is done via command-line options? If you really need a GUI to use GPG, trying installing one of the many interfaces referenced from http://macgpg.sourceforge.net/. Those are packaged as .app bundles and make sense to run via the Finder. -Joe PS: I noticed this message thread was being cross-posted to both macgpg-users and gnupg-users. I'm not sure that's good etiquette, but I'm replying to both for continuity. On Mar 7, 2007, at 4:24 PM, Ryan R. LaMothe wrote: It's not a matter of why not do it yourself but a matter of why isn't it being done kind of question. A graphical installer and uninstaller for the entire suite would be nice. Maybe I will find time to work on it, maybe someone else can too. It is the same kind of question I ask the Mono and MonoDevelop people, who not only did not write MonoDevelop using Windows Forms (they used GTK), but an installation of MonoDevelop for OS X requires a plethora of Fink/DarwinPorts Linux libs installed in order to even begin using the entire package. But that is another story for another list. On Mar 7, 2007, at 6:03 PM, Benjamin Donnachie wrote: Ryan R. LaMothe wrote: How difficult would be it be to package this application as a .app bundle instead of all over the filesystem like the typical Unix application (which makes installing/uninstalling/upgrading a pita)? There's nothing stopping you doing it and making the result available to all. Ben - - --- Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT business topics through brief surveys-and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php? page=join.phpp=sourceforgeCID=DEVDEV ___ Macgpg-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/macgpg-users ___ Gnupg-users mailing list Gnupg-users@gnupg.org http://lists.gnupg.org/mailman/listinfo/gnupg-users ___ Gnupg-users mailing list Gnupg-users@gnupg.org http://lists.gnupg.org/mailman/listinfo/gnupg-users
Re: [Macgpg-users] 1.4.7 packages for OS X
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi, Am 08.03.2007 um 20:53 schrieb Charly Avital: Please keep in mind that you need to have XCode 2.21 or the latest Developer Tools with gcc 4.0.1 or later as well as the BSD Subsystem installed. Check this by typing 'gcc -v' into the Terminal. I have included Mr. Alexander Nouak in the distribution of this answer, hoping he will be able to clarify this matter. I know Mr. Nouak will get this message also via macgpg-users, and I apologize for this double posting. may I kindly confirm that I am the right person to be blamed for that and I am terribly sorry for having caused this confusion. I will correct that as soon as possible. It is correct that you can compile gnupg on any Mac OS X = 10.2 with its appropriate Developer Tools installed. To compile it on an Intel Mac or to receive Universal Binaries you will however need to use gcc 4.0.1 or later which you may find with XCode 2.21 or in the Developer Tools for Mac OS X 10.4 HTH Servus Alexander MacGPG Project Admin -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (Darwin) iD8DBQFF8Wnn0HWns9BC0+sRAi0oAKCQy6SjHRoOWit0DCtj69a8zlJITwCguEwL NBrIFwQqd4unitpliKq80Is= =0uFn -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Gnupg-users mailing list Gnupg-users@gnupg.org http://lists.gnupg.org/mailman/listinfo/gnupg-users
Re: [Macgpg-users] 1.4.7 packages for OS X
I apologize if I am wasting the time of some busy and appreciated people, but I'd like to ask for clarification: The latest macgpg.sourceforge.net HowTo, v4.16, says gcc 4.0.1 is needed. That gcc seems to be Apple-natively available only with OS 10.4, and not installable in 10.3.9 (with reliable result) from currently available XCode; gcc 3.3 seems to be the highest in XCode for 10.3. So..., what gcc do you have and how did you get it? (If the answer is simple, and I'm stupid, that makes me happiest because it is least trouble for me to fix.) On Thu, 8 Mar 2007, Charly Avital wrote: . . . On an iMac CPU Type: PowerPC 750 (22.14) running MacOS 10.3.9 (code named Pahther), compiling from source with idea.c copied to 'Cipher': . . . Therefore, GnuPG 1.4.7 builds correctly under Mac OS 10.3.9. I misunderstood the indications in MacGPG's web site. . . . ___ Gnupg-users mailing list Gnupg-users@gnupg.org http://lists.gnupg.org/mailman/listinfo/gnupg-users
Re: [Macgpg-users] 1.4.7 packages for OS X
On Thu, Mar 08, 2007 at 11:59:40AM -0500, reynt0 wrote: I apologize if I am wasting the time of some busy and appreciated people, but I'd like to ask for clarification: The latest macgpg.sourceforge.net HowTo, v4.16, says gcc 4.0.1 is needed. That gcc seems to be Apple-natively available only with OS 10.4, and not installable in 10.3.9 (with reliable result) from currently available XCode; gcc 3.3 seems to be the highest in XCode for 10.3. So..., what gcc do you have and how did you get it? (If the answer is simple, and I'm stupid, that makes me happiest because it is least trouble for me to fix.) gcc 4.0.1 is not needed to build GnuPG. You should be able to build it with whatever version is on your Panther box. If it doesn't work, tell me, and I'll make it work. David ___ Gnupg-users mailing list Gnupg-users@gnupg.org http://lists.gnupg.org/mailman/listinfo/gnupg-users
Re: [Macgpg-users] 1.4.7 packages for OS X
At 11:59 AM -0500 3/8/07, reynt0 wrote: I apologize if I am wasting the time of some busy and appreciated people, but I'd like to ask for clarification: Not that busy, let's try to sort out this issue. The latest macgpg.sourceforge.net HowTo, v4.16, says gcc 4.0.1 is needed. You are right, that's what the HOWTO indicates: - This document describes how to build GnuPG on Mac OS X 10.2+. Please keep in mind that you need to have XCode 2.21 or the latest Developer Tools with gcc 4.0.1 or later as well as the BSD Subsystem installed. Check this by typing 'gcc -v' into the Terminal. I am not sure what happened here; maybe, and I wish to stress 'maybe' an editing error when updating Gordon Worley's instructions. The facts are as follows: 1. On this iMac running OS 10.3.9, I have: Xcode 1.5, and gcc (GCC) 3.3 20030304 (Apple Computer, Inc. build 1666) As I informed in a previous e-mail, I have compiled GnuPG 1.4.7 on this computer, without any problem. [...] I have included Mr. Alexander Nouak in the distribution of this answer, hoping he will be able to clarify this matter. I know Mr. Nouak will get this message also via macgpg-users, and I apologize for this double posting. Charly ___ Gnupg-users mailing list Gnupg-users@gnupg.org http://lists.gnupg.org/mailman/listinfo/gnupg-users
Re: [Macgpg-users] 1.4.7 packages for OS X
(Wed, Mar 07, 2007 at 12:55:28PM +0200) Charly Avital wrote/schrieb/egrapse: I can't remember whether or which security problems 1.4.1 comported, but you will find complementary information in that site. Since we've just had a security related update to 1.4.6 and a security related update to 1.4.7, I'd be hesitant to use or recommend 1.4.1. All the above, until or if you decide to upgrade from 10.3.9. There are Macs that can't upgrade beyond 10.3.9 and that will still work fine with that system for many years to come. Myself I tend to compile gnupg anyway, which IIRC never was much of a problem on 10.3.9 anyway. But I understand that some people don't have the knowledge or confidence to do that. Regards, Sascha ___ Gnupg-users mailing list Gnupg-users@gnupg.org http://lists.gnupg.org/mailman/listinfo/gnupg-users
Re: [Macgpg-users] 1.4.7 packages for OS X
Sascha Welter wrote the following on 3/7/07 4:11 PM: (Wed, Mar 07, 2007 at 12:55:28PM +0200) Charly Avital wrote/schrieb/egrapse: I can't remember whether or which security problems 1.4.1 comported, but you will find complementary information in that site. Since we've just had a security related update to 1.4.6 and a security related update to 1.4.7, I'd be hesitant to use or recommend 1.4.1. Quite, but later versions of gnupg, as far as I have read, are not compatible with OS X 10.3.9. See MacGPG's web site http://macgpg.sourceforge.net/, where different versions of GnuPG are posted for OS 10.1.x, 10.2.x, 10.3.x, and now 10.4.x. Apparently the last GnuPG version for 10.3.9 is 1.4.1. For better or for worse. All the above, until or if you decide to upgrade from 10.3.9. There are Macs that can't upgrade beyond 10.3.9 and that will still work fine with that system for many years to come. I also have a G3 iMac, running 10.3.9, works fine. I have even a venerable 1998 vintage Wallstreet, where I succeeded to install Panther, but that was a long time ago. Myself I tend to compile gnupg anyway, which IIRC never was much of a problem on 10.3.9 anyway. But I understand that some people don't have the knowledge or confidence to do that. Till now, I have compiled gnupg from source. I don't have the knowledge, I follow the instructions set in MacGPG's web site. If or when something goes wrong, I ask questions, get answers (most of the time), and try to remedy. Call that confidence? I don't know. I only know it has worked till now, including GnuPG 2.0.2 Charly ___ Gnupg-users mailing list Gnupg-users@gnupg.org http://lists.gnupg.org/mailman/listinfo/gnupg-users
Re: [Macgpg-users] 1.4.7 packages for OS X
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 Why isn't this application packaged like normal OS X apps in an application bundle? Why the Unix(Linux) bundling and installing? Usually, these normal OS X apps are Cocoa apps. If it has a nifty- keen GUI on it, odds are good that it's a Cocoa app and is thus packaged as a .app. But otherwise, odds are good that it's a regular UNIX utility and will be packaged like a regular UNIX utility. For instance, the Apple Developer Tools are packaged both like .apps and like regular UNIX utilities. XCode is a Cocoa apps, and as such, it's packaged as a .app. But Apple's C compiler is a regular UNIX utility, and as such, it's packaged as /usr/bin/gcc. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (Darwin) iQEcBAEBCAAGBQJF7vt6AAoJELcA9IL+r4EJmokIAMxwltRifxUIuVfQ7IKcKmiQ uZaIetXMFswVDupBqI5QvCj1tapyQYIdyfrnTaB8vWrJmsDlQsPA3MrZE8OhRbVW lrqmOhbWD4wSTd4+7FqI+K5VEhmaSCo4Rf9F6iXdOiKB0p4FKodgWOsdUvNsCLFk sVpuIzr7XYynqX03rtN30pQRZXl8yVhic9gBQx34S+7y50e8GriHmshAJYaMe779 bIesznJNxNRX4bQ8XjsRGuAZV6aqI2OCKvwlNqge1xJVrWu4tLtn6eCjEvUGj650 2cxMEWXCLw+9x5SwzwKCK4j7MeIlU/6cPvXySSvF4fowv2mB4HLMM2zni03RGvM= =OW5W -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Gnupg-users mailing list Gnupg-users@gnupg.org http://lists.gnupg.org/mailman/listinfo/gnupg-users
Re: [Macgpg-users] 1.4.7 packages for OS X
On Wed, Mar 07, 2007 at 07:35:57PM +0200, Charly Avital wrote: Sascha Welter wrote the following on 3/7/07 4:11 PM: (Wed, Mar 07, 2007 at 12:55:28PM +0200) Charly Avital wrote/schrieb/egrapse: I can't remember whether or which security problems 1.4.1 comported, but you will find complementary information in that site. Since we've just had a security related update to 1.4.6 and a security related update to 1.4.7, I'd be hesitant to use or recommend 1.4.1. Quite, but later versions of gnupg, as far as I have read, are not compatible with OS X 10.3.9. Do you mean binary releases from somewhere or building your own? If you're building your own, this is not the case, or at least, should not be the case. If compiling 1.4.7 on Panther doesn't work, report it as a bug. I will fix it. David ___ Gnupg-users mailing list Gnupg-users@gnupg.org http://lists.gnupg.org/mailman/listinfo/gnupg-users
Re: [Macgpg-users] 1.4.7 packages for OS X
David Shaw wrote the following on 3/7/07 8:08 PM: [...] Do you mean binary releases from somewhere or building your own? If you're building your own, this is not the case, or at least, should not be the case. If compiling 1.4.7 on Panther doesn't work, report it as a bug. I will fix it. David Maybe I misunderstood the indications in http://macgpg.sourceforge.net. I shall try to compile 1.4.7 on Panther (not just right now), and report back. Charly ___ Gnupg-users mailing list Gnupg-users@gnupg.org http://lists.gnupg.org/mailman/listinfo/gnupg-users
Re: [Macgpg-users] 1.4.7 packages for OS X
On 3/7/07, David Shaw [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Do you mean binary releases from somewhere or building your own? If you're building your own, this is not the case, or at least, should not be the case. If compiling 1.4.7 on Panther doesn't work, report it as a bug. I will fix it. It worked for me. I didn't report success because I didn't think it was an issue. Breen -- Breen Mullins Menlo Park, Calif. ___ Gnupg-users mailing list Gnupg-users@gnupg.org http://lists.gnupg.org/mailman/listinfo/gnupg-users
Re: [Macgpg-users] 1.4.7 packages for OS X
Ryan R. LaMothe wrote: How difficult would be it be to package this application as a .app bundle instead of all over the filesystem like the typical Unix application (which makes installing/uninstalling/upgrading a pita)? There's nothing stopping you doing it and making the result available to all. Ben ___ Gnupg-users mailing list Gnupg-users@gnupg.org http://lists.gnupg.org/mailman/listinfo/gnupg-users
Re: [Macgpg-users] 1.4.7 packages for OS X
Charly Avital wrote: Maybe I misunderstood the indications in http://macgpg.sourceforge.net. My understanding is that the macgpg team decided to stop supporting old versions of Mac OS. However, the recent version of gnupg should (touch wood!) compile from source without any (real) problems. Ben ___ Gnupg-users mailing list Gnupg-users@gnupg.org http://lists.gnupg.org/mailman/listinfo/gnupg-users
Re: [Macgpg-users] 1.4.7 packages for OS X
Benjamin Donnachie wrote: Warning: these packages still have not been extensively tested. I haven't had chance to look at them yet. I've just had a quick look at your installer and I'm afraid that it wouldn't meet the standards set by the macgpg team. Take a look at the documents I've sent you which should hopefully explain all. Take care, Ben ___ Gnupg-users mailing list Gnupg-users@gnupg.org http://lists.gnupg.org/mailman/listinfo/gnupg-users
Re: [Macgpg-users] 1.4.7 packages for OS X
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 At 6:21 PM -0500 3/7/07, David Shaw wrote: [...] Yes indeed. Let me reiterate: as far as I'm concerned, if the current GPG doesn't build on a particular version of OSX, that's a bug. And I'll do my best to fix GPG so it does build. David On an iMac CPU Type: PowerPC 750 (22.14) running MacOS 10.3.9 (code named Pahther), compiling from source with idea.c copied to 'Cipher': - ./configure: [...] Version info: gnupg 1.4.7 Configured for: Darwin (powerpc-apple-darwin7.9.0). All 27 tests passed. % gpg --version gpg (GnuPG) 1.4.7 Copyright (C) 2006 Free Software Foundation, Inc. This program comes with ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY. This is free software, and you are welcome to redistribute it under certain conditions. See the file COPYING for details. Home: ~/.gnupg Supported algorithms: Pubkey: RSA, RSA-E, RSA-S, ELG-E, DSA Cipher: IDEA, 3DES, CAST5, BLOWFISH, AES, AES192, AES256, TWOFISH Hash: MD5, SHA1, RIPEMD160, SHA256, SHA384, SHA512, SHA224 Compression: Uncompressed, ZIP, ZLIB, BZIP2 - --- Therefore, GnuPG 1.4.7 builds correctly under Mac OS 10.3.9. I misunderstood the indications in MacGPG's web site. Thank you David for your feedback. Charly -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (Darwin) Comment: GnuPG for Privacy iQEVAwUBRe+dRM3GMi2FW4PvAQjV5QgArePI9tr5+nHHQGwGtE27xJEvzeozlVWc VB9lAc2D/312om6+CBaaL9dTvIIBLh08DG2jJ7PWMWoasLmxy/LaplCPwGnr283C HEkGy0z0sqOTVxfqXE4jua6+LOsBwQE+d/FHphyPq09nMHZD5Iw0U0w6a72uYG5v 0xVwBNE3WoEX0Pr9apRv0DeqCvE81WRqMFK0QjZtor85STG05xXIcqnsVBs9NjWb ccYk98oQqXLLsXrPT5l53BsxoUURYCKdwZWo7oXnqFvSKIDZKeVFbiacOdat4q9f tmuI8SrqaOqQJgNrfMd5aEkuDTnG9rmnT8Tt7vgl9xE3JLhBiG1jdQ== =Hvtf -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Gnupg-users mailing list Gnupg-users@gnupg.org http://lists.gnupg.org/mailman/listinfo/gnupg-users
