Re: Can IPAD or Android Tablets create Keys and use gnupg

[Bernhard Reiter]

Andrew, Jürgen,

Am Freitag 12 März 2021 17:27:08 schrieb Andrew Gallagher via Gnupg-users:
> PGPro is open source, but neither it nor iPGMail handle openPGP/MIME -

> Canary Mail

Am Freitag 12 März 2021 18:15:18 schrieb Juergen Bruckner via Gnupg-users:
> I can also name following Android Apps here

thanks for sharing your experiences?

Anyone cares to link this from wiki.gnupg.org?
To me it would be cool, if more details are available there,
I do sometimes updates some, but more help would be cool. ;)

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Re: Can IPAD or Android Tablets create Keys and use gnupg

[Juergen Bruckner via Gnupg-users]

Am 12.03.21 um 15:29 schrieb Bernhard Reiter:

c) Are there compatible OpenPGP and OpenPGP/MIME implementations for
Android?

Yes, e.g. Openkeychain + K9Mail (both being Free Software)


I can also name following Android Apps here

  - FairEMail (+ Openkeychain)
  - R2Mail2
  - MailDroid (+ Crypto-PlugIn)

which supports BOTH OpenPGP and S/MIME.
All of them are available for a small fee.

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Re: Can IPAD or Android Tablets create Keys and use gnupg

[Andrew Gallagher via Gnupg-users]

On 12/03/2021 14:29, Bernhard Reiter wrote:

d) Are there compatible OpenPGP and OpenPGP/MIME implementations for iOS?

Yes, though proprietary Software (AFAIK), for example I've heard about
Canary Mail, iPGMail, PGPro, Safe Easy Privacy


PGPro is open source, but neither it nor iPGMail handle openPGP/MIME - 
they use various tricks with the clipboard and attachments to exchange 
ciphertext with the native iOS mail app, due to restrictions in iOS 
<=v13 that forbid third-party apps direct access to the mail delivery API.


(The less said about SAFE Easy Privacy's hateful UX, the better)

Canary Mail is the only one of the above which has (so far) taken 
advantage of the new iOS 14 app policy to implement openPGP/MIME. I have 
not used it much, but it appears well-built (and closed-source, and pricey).


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Re: Can IPAD or Android Tablets create Keys and use gnupg

[Bernhard Reiter]

Am Mittwoch 10 März 2021 09:12:03 schrieb geostyles2020--- via Gnupg-users:
>  Can IPAD or Android Tablets create Keys and use gnupg

GnuPG is a crypto tool, which implements standards like OpenPGP
and Cryptographic Message Syntax. 

An email application is needed in addition 
to read and send OpenPGP/MIME or S/MIME emails.

(There are other tools, that also implement those standards.)

So your question can be understood in several dimentions:
a) is there a port (or distribution) of GnuPG
   for Android?
   
Not really. Details: There used to be 
https://github.com/guardianproject/gnupg-for-android
but it is unmaintained and outdated.
So it is technically feasable, but not one does the work.

b) is there a port (or distribution) of GnuPG
   for iOS?

Not that I know of. 
Details: There are probably technical and license challenges to port
GnuPG to iOS. While I believe that it is possible to port C applications
to iOS, it is unclear if someone could place it is in the appstore.
Note that GnuPG ports to MacOSX exist.


c) Are there compatible OpenPGP and OpenPGP/MIME implementations for
   Android?

Yes, e.g. Openkeychain + K9Mail (both being Free Software)


d) Are there compatible OpenPGP and OpenPGP/MIME implementations for iOS?

Yes, though proprietary Software (AFAIK), for example I've heard about
Canary Mail, iPGMail, PGPro, Safe Easy Privacy

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Re: GnuPG 2.2.20 under Termux (Android) ...

[Stefan Claas]

Szczepan Zalega | Nitrokey via Gnupg-users wrote:
 
> On 4/27/20 6:50 PM, Stefan Claas wrote:
> > I see in your address 'Nitrokey' and I was wondering (I have USB on
> > my Samsung A40) that a Nitrokey USB device would work properly with
> > my Termux set-up, i.e. Nitrokey drivers which must be detected via
> > Termux, so that it would work?
> > 
> > Are you aware of if this was ever been tested?
> 
> Hi!
> 
> Sorry for the delay. Nitrokey devices were tested with OpenKeychain
> [1] (available on F-Droid and Google Play), but not with the Termux.
> I will keep in mind to check this.
> Regarding smart card related features no additional drivers are
> needed, only the usual GnuPG requirements apply: device access and
> scdaemon service running for the actual device communication.
> 
> 
> [1] https://www.openkeychain.org/
> 

Thanks for your reply, much appreciated!

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Re: GnuPG 2.2.20 under Termux (Android) ...

[Szczepan Zalega | Nitrokey via Gnupg-users]

On 4/27/20 6:50 PM, Stefan Claas wrote:
> I see in your address 'Nitrokey' and I was wondering (I have USB on my Samsung
> A40) that a Nitrokey USB device would work properly with my Termux set-up, 
> i.e.
> Nitrokey drivers which must be detected via Termux, so that it would work?
> 
> Are you aware of if this was ever been tested?

Hi!

Sorry for the delay. Nitrokey devices were tested with OpenKeychain [1]
(available on F-Droid and Google Play), but not with the Termux. I will
keep in mind to check this.
Regarding smart card related features no additional drivers are needed,
only the usual GnuPG requirements apply: device access and scdaemon
service running for the actual device communication.


[1] https://www.openkeychain.org/

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Re: GnuPG 2.2.20 under Termux (Android) ...

[Stefan Claas]

Szczepan Zalega | Nitrokey via Gnupg-users wrote:

> On 4/27/20 3:15 PM, Stefan Claas wrote:
> > maybe interesting for some of you.
> > 
> > I just noticed that, after installing Golang under Termux
> > that Termux has also GnuPG already installed.
> > 
> > https://ibb.co/hyG8q4Y
> > 
> > Would people recommend using pure GnuPG on a smartphone,
> > compared to a (compromised?) PC?
> > 
> > I ask, because I have not read yet what attacks (remotely)
> > are possible with smartphones, to obtain the secret keys.
> > 
> > Any pointers to articles would be very welcome!
> > 
> 
> Hi!
> 
> I would not keep the secrets on the mobile, but rather offload the
> computation to a simple device and communicate via USB/NFC. Reason is
> that this is a complicated communication device, which has a big attack
> surface.
> Here is a fresh remote code exploitation done over Bluetooth for Android
> 8/9 [1]. Fix was released in February 2020 as far as I see.
> In the past there were some issues with the WiFi as well AFAIR.
> 
> 
> [1]
> https://insinuator.net/2020/04/cve-2020-0022-an-android-8-0-9-0-bluetooth-zero-click-rce-bluefrag/

Thanks for the info, much appreciated!

I see in your address 'Nitrokey' and I was wondering (I have USB on my Samsung
A40) that a Nitrokey USB device would work properly with my Termux set-up, i.e.
Nitrokey drivers which must be detected via Termux, so that it would work?

Are you aware of if this was ever been tested?

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Re: GnuPG 2.2.20 under Termux (Android) ...

[Szczepan Zalega | Nitrokey via Gnupg-users]

On 4/27/20 3:15 PM, Stefan Claas wrote:
> maybe interesting for some of you.
> 
> I just noticed that, after installing Golang under Termux
> that Termux has also GnuPG already installed.
> 
> https://ibb.co/hyG8q4Y
> 
> Would people recommend using pure GnuPG on a smartphone,
> compared to a (compromised?) PC?
> 
> I ask, because I have not read yet what attacks (remotely)
> are possible with smartphones, to obtain the secret keys.
> 
> Any pointers to articles would be very welcome!
> 

Hi!

I would not keep the secrets on the mobile, but rather offload the
computation to a simple device and communicate via USB/NFC. Reason is
that this is a complicated communication device, which has a big attack
surface.
Here is a fresh remote code exploitation done over Bluetooth for Android
8/9 [1]. Fix was released in February 2020 as far as I see.
In the past there were some issues with the WiFi as well AFAIR.


[1]
https://insinuator.net/2020/04/cve-2020-0022-an-android-8-0-9-0-bluetooth-zero-click-rce-bluefrag/

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GnuPG 2.2.20 under Termux (Android) ...

[Stefan Claas]

Hi all,

maybe interesting for some of you.

I just noticed that, after installing Golang under Termux
that Termux has also GnuPG already installed.

https://ibb.co/hyG8q4Y

Would people recommend using pure GnuPG on a smartphone,
compared to a (compromised?) PC?

I ask, because I have not read yet what attacks (remotely)
are possible with smartphones, to obtain the secret keys.

Any pointers to articles would be very welcome!

Regards
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Re: Android

[Burkhard Schroeder]

Am 16.10.19 um 13:02 schrieb Daniel Bossert:

> Is anybody using pgp on Android? I did some years ago, would like to,
> but am afraid of security reason.
> 
> I have safed my keys on my laptop only.
> 
> How are you handling it in ages of mobiles?

I use K-Mail and Openkeychain https://www.openkeychain.org/

If you want to store something safely you may use
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.sovworks.eds.android=en

I imported my key pair from a Linux PC.

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Re: Android

[john doe]

On 10/16/2019 3:45 PM, Michał Górny via Gnupg-users wrote:
> On Wed, 2019-10-16 at 13:02 +0200, Daniel Bossert wrote:
>> Hi
>>
>> Is anybody using pgp on Android? I did some years ago, would like to, but am 
>> afraid of security reason.
>>
>> I have safed my keys on my laptop only.
>>
>> How are you handling it in ages of mobiles?
>>
>
> Get yourself a hardware key, and use that.  I've been successfully using
> USB NitroKey with OpenKeychain (for mail) and TermBot, though I admit
> it's not the most convenient solution.  FWIH, NFC keys are more
> convenient; that is, if someone considers it safe to keep NFC enabled
> with Google Pay installed.
>

On AndroidI use k9mail with openkeychain and one subkey which has only
the sign capability.
The use of subkey makes it possible to revoke only that subkey incase of
lost of theft without having to revoked all your key.

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Re: Android

[Michał Górny via Gnupg-users]

On Wed, 2019-10-16 at 13:02 +0200, Daniel Bossert wrote:
> Hi
> 
> Is anybody using pgp on Android? I did some years ago, would like to, but am 
> afraid of security reason.
> 
> I have safed my keys on my laptop only.
> 
> How are you handling it in ages of mobiles?
> 

Get yourself a hardware key, and use that.  I've been successfully using
USB NitroKey with OpenKeychain (for mail) and TermBot, though I admit
it's not the most convenient solution.  FWIH, NFC keys are more
convenient; that is, if someone considers it safe to keep NFC enabled
with Google Pay installed.

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Re: Android

[Juergen Christoffel]

On Wed, Oct 16, 2019 at 01:02:10PM +0200, Daniel Bossert wrote:


Is anybody using pgp on Android? I did some years ago, would like to, but

am afraid of security reason.

Hi Daniel,

I'm using gnupg with Termux (Linux as app) on Android. And ssh for file
transfers too. Works for me, as I'm comfortable with commandline
interfaces, even on mobiles.

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Re: Android

[Chris Narkiewicz via Gnupg-users]

YubiKeys are supported. You can use NFC key to perform crypto gimmicks or plug 
USB one.

OpenKeychain does support quite large palette of hardware tokens.

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Re: Android

[Johan Wevers]

On 16-10-2019 13:02, Daniel Bossert wrote:

> Is anybody using pgp on Android? I did some years ago, would like to,
> but am afraid of security reason.

I use APG for old pgp 2.x keys and OpenKeyChain integrated in k9 mail
for modern keys. The secret keys are protected by a password, that's my
key protection. When I loose my phone, or when it gets stolen or
confiscated, I'll revoke the key and create a new one.

I don't believe anyone can protect a file on a phone against a skilled
forensics lab. Even the best protected mobiles get cracked eventually
(see the recent bootrom exploit in almost all iPhones for example).

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Android

[Daniel Bossert]

Hi

Is anybody using pgp on Android? I did some years ago, would like to, but am 
afraid of security reason.

I have safed my keys on my laptop only.

How are you handling it in ages of mobiles?

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Android compat

[Tan]

Hello all,

I am newbie to Android native development and want to benefit Gcrypt in
application. Has anyone recently compiled libgcrypt for Android recently. I
saw few commands and flags on regarding the toolchain but was not really
clear to me. Could anyone point me a right direction or share his/her
experience?

BW,
Taner
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GnuPG on Android

[justina colmena via Gnupg-users]

Hello GnuPG users!

This is somewhat related to a discussion from last month.
 https://lists.gnupg.org/pipermail/gnupg-users/2018-November/061122.html

To answer the question about GnuPG on Android, the most useful application I 
have found so far is called OpenKeychain.

https://www.openkeychain.org

The K-9 Mail client, which I am using now, and a password store utility both 
make good use of OpenKeychain on Android.

https://k9mail.github.io
https://github.com/zeapo/Android-Password-Store

I was able to create a key (see URL at the bottom of this email signature for 
public key), back it up, import it into GnuPG 1.4.23 and use it successfully, 
but I am unable to use the private key in GnuPG 2.2.9, because I cannot verify 
the pass phrase for the private key on gpg2 no matter what I do.

I have signed this email with the key in question, for reference.
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GnuPG on Android

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Sorry. Missing signature. Hit send too soon.


 Original Message 
From: justina colmena 
Sent: December 4, 2018 10:56:27 AM AKST
To: gnupg-users@gnupg.org
Subject: GnuPG on Android

Hello GnuPG users!

This is somewhat related to a discussion from last month.
 https://lists.gnupg.org/pipermail/gnupg-users/2018-November/061122.html

To answer the question about GnuPG on Android, the most useful application I 
have found so far is called OpenKeychain.

https://www.openkeychain.org

The K-9 Mail client, which I am using now, and a password store utility both 
make good use of OpenKeychain on Android.

https://k9mail.github.io
https://github.com/zeapo/Android-Password-Store

I was able to create a key (see URL at the bottom of this email signature for 
public key), back it up, import it into GnuPG 1.4.23 and use it successfully, 
but I am unable to use the private key in GnuPG 2.2.9, because I cannot verify 
the pass phrase for the private key on gpg2 no matter what I do.

I have signed this email with the key in question, for reference.
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right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.

https://www.colmena.biz/~justina/justina.colmena.asc
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Re: GPG on Android

[john doe]

On 11/9/2018 6:58 AM, Arthur Ulfeldt wrote:
> for years I've been using openkeychain and keeping a signing and encryption
> subkey on an nfc yubikey.  when I went to use encrypted email on the phone
> (which is basically only from Facebook) I tap the key to the back of the
> phone. if I want to read the same email on my laptop I plug out in there.
> it's been smooth and solid for years.
> 
> recently I got a yubikey 4 which i plug into the USB port on the phone. it
> works just as well. I slightly preferred the NFC version.
> 
> On Thu, Nov 8, 2018, 7:40 AM amuza  
>>
>>
>> john doe:
>>> On 11/4/2018 10:55 PM, Roland wrote:
>>>> Hello list,
>>>>
>>>> I share the wish for encrypted email on Android, but I am afraid of
>> storing a secret key on my android phone. (theft, hacking, loss, etc)
>>>
>>> In case of theft/lost using subkey is somewhat easier because you can
>>> revoke that subkey only.
>>>
>>
>> An encrypted Replicant phone [0] + K-9 Mail + Openkeychain using subkeys
>>
>> [0] https://replicant.us/
>>
>

When I said above that subkey is easier to manage I was talking only
about signing subkey, that is, one signing subkey per device.
That is based on the assumption that you can have only one encryption
subkey and multiple signing subkeys.

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Re: GPG on Android

[Wiktor Kwapisiewicz via Gnupg-users]

Hi,

> On Monday 5 November 2018 at 7:59:05 AM, in
> , Wiktor
> Kwapisiewicz via Gnupg-users wrote:-
> 
> 
>>> Could a pincard be connected via micro USB? And
>>> made to work?
> 
> Or by NFC. For example, [0]
> 
> [0] 

Yes, personally I'm using the Fidesmo card as it fits nicely in the wallet 
(credit card format).

But if having 4096-bit RSA keys is important Yubikey 5C is also an option.

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Re: GPG on Android

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On Monday 5 November 2018 at 7:59:05 AM, in
, Wiktor
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>> Could a pincard be connected via micro USB? And
>> made to work?

Or by NFC. For example, [0]

[0] 


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Re: GPG on Android

[Arthur Ulfeldt]

for years I've been using openkeychain and keeping a signing and encryption
subkey on an nfc yubikey.  when I went to use encrypted email on the phone
(which is basically only from Facebook) I tap the key to the back of the
phone. if I want to read the same email on my laptop I plug out in there.
it's been smooth and solid for years.

recently I got a yubikey 4 which i plug into the USB port on the phone. it
works just as well. I slightly preferred the NFC version.

On Thu, Nov 8, 2018, 7:40 AM amuza 
>
> john doe:
> > On 11/4/2018 10:55 PM, Roland wrote:
> >> Hello list,
> >>
> >> I share the wish for encrypted email on Android, but I am afraid of
> storing a secret key on my android phone. (theft, hacking, loss, etc)
> >
> > In case of theft/lost using subkey is somewhat easier because you can
> > revoke that subkey only.
> >
>
> An encrypted Replicant phone [0] + K-9 Mail + Openkeychain using subkeys
>
> [0] https://replicant.us/
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Re: GPG on Android

[amuza]

john doe:
> On 11/4/2018 10:55 PM, Roland wrote:
>> Hello list,
>>
>> I share the wish for encrypted email on Android, but I am afraid of storing 
>> a secret key on my android phone. (theft, hacking, loss, etc) 
> 
> In case of theft/lost using subkey is somewhat easier because you can
> revoke that subkey only.
> 

An encrypted Replicant phone [0] + K-9 Mail + Openkeychain using subkeys

[0] https://replicant.us/

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Re: GPG on Android

[Juergen Bruckner]

Hi Werner

I know its not the perfect setup, but it is practicable for me, and as i
usually just work with subkeys i feel on a more safe side with this.
Tokens are always a good idea, and if anyone can use them its
recommended to do it that way.

There are good reasons why GPG supports Tokens/Cards by default ;)

best regards
Juergen

Am 05.11.18 um 10:41 schrieb Werner Koch:
> On Sun,  4 Nov 2018 23:20, juer...@bruckner.tk said:
> 
>> I for myself did configure MailDroid that way, that for each
>> crypto-operation, decrypt, sign, encrypt I have to enter my passwort
>> each time.
> 
> That does not help.  A bugged phone will for sure employ a keylogger and
> thus you can also work without a passphrase.  To protect your key you
> need to move the key to a separate hardware device (aka token).  This
> may not help to protect you messages but at least you token must be close
> to the device so that an attacker can make use of your keys.
> 
> 
> Shalom-Salam,
> 
>Werner
> 
> 

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Re: GPG on Android

[Werner Koch]

On Sun,  4 Nov 2018 23:20, juer...@bruckner.tk said:

> I for myself did configure MailDroid that way, that for each
> crypto-operation, decrypt, sign, encrypt I have to enter my passwort
> each time.

That does not help.  A bugged phone will for sure employ a keylogger and
thus you can also work without a passphrase.  To protect your key you
need to move the key to a separate hardware device (aka token).  This
may not help to protect you messages but at least you token must be close
to the device so that an attacker can make use of your keys.


Shalom-Salam,

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Re: GPG on Android

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On 03.11.2018 19:13, Juergen BRUCKNER wrote:
> Hello Masha,
> (...)
> You need to install the additional Flipdog CryptoPlugin[3] on your
> device, where you import and manage the keys.
> You have to create the keys for example on a desktop computer and import
> it to your android device and into the CryptoPlugin.

I just tried Flipdog CryptoPlugin. It couldn't import my key from
keyservers (thrown an exception on import) nor could it import some
other random keys I tried (e.g. 80615870F5BAD690333686D0F2AD85AC1E42B367).

Is it still developed? The last version seems to be from 2015...

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Re: GPG on Android

[Wiktor Kwapisiewicz via Gnupg-users]

On 04.11.2018 22:55, Roland wrote:
> Hello list,
> 
> I share the wish for encrypted email on Android, but I am afraid of
> storing a secret key on my android phone. (theft, hacking, loss, etc)
> 
> How do you feel about that?
> 
> Could a pincard be connected via micro USB? And made to work?

Yes, it works with OpenKeychain. I've personally used Yubikey 4 with
USB-A to USB-C adapter, with USB-A to micro USB adapter, Yubikey 4C and
a Fidesmo card but much more types of tokens are supported [0].

There is an added benefit that the same exact token can be used with
GnuPG and OpenKeychain seamlessly.

Kind regards,
Wiktor

[0]: https://github.com/open-keychain/open-keychain/wiki/Security-Tokens

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Re: GPG on Android

[john doe]

On 11/4/2018 10:55 PM, Roland wrote:
> Hello list,
> 
> I share the wish for encrypted email on Android, but I am afraid of storing a 
> secret key on my android phone. (theft, hacking, loss, etc) 

In case of theft/lost using subkey is somewhat easier because you can
revoke that subkey only.

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Re: GPG on Android

[vedaal via Gnupg-users]

On 11/4/2018 at 4:58 PM, "Roland"  wrote:
>
>Hello list,
>
>I share the wish for encrypted email on Android, but I am afraid 
>of storing a secret key on my android phone. (theft, hacking, 
>loss, etc) 
>
>How do you feel about that?

=====

Exactly the same way.

Android phones (software) are made by Google.
Google archives data from every source connecting to one of its applications, 
Chrome, search engine, gmail, etc.

I don't trust them, and have no way of verifying any claim of what they do, or 
do not, store.

Also, if you have any app that required 'rooting' of your phone, then even 
Google doesn't trust it, and expressly says that it will not guarantee false 
(malicious) expenditures by Google Wallet. 

So the 'rooted' app probably does have access to your android gnupg data.


Annoying, I know,  to not use gnupg on android, but prudently safe.

fwiw,  the gnupg apps work well on android, but I just don't trust the phone.


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Re: GPG on Android

[Juergen Bruckner]

Hello Roland,

I for myself did configure MailDroid that way, that for each
crypto-operation, decrypt, sign, encrypt I have to enter my passwort
each time.

With pincards on Android I have absolutely NO experience, but im sure,
one of our fellow list members can give you a answer on this specific
question.

best regards
Juergen

Am 04.11.18 um 22:55 schrieb Roland:
> Hello list,
> 
> I share the wish for encrypted email on Android, but I am afraid of storing a 
> secret key on my android phone. (theft, hacking, loss, etc) 
> 
> How do you feel about that?
> 
> Could a pincard be connected via micro USB? And made to work?
> 
> Greetz
> Roland 
> 
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GPG on Android

[Roland]

Hello list,

I share the wish for encrypted email on Android, but I am afraid of storing a 
secret key on my android phone. (theft, hacking, loss, etc) 

How do you feel about that?

Could a pincard be connected via micro USB? And made to work?

Greetz
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Re: GPG on Android

[Juergen Bruckner]

Hello All,

in this topic I forgot to mention another android-mail-app.
Thanks to Chris for the hint!

This app is from an austria developer (rundquadarat OG) and called
"R2Mail 2" [1]. It has fully GPG and X.509 (aka S/MIME) support.
This app comes in a test version with limited functions and has a
licence key [2] to buy for full functions. With a price around 5 EUR it
is not that expensive.

The developer was in a parental leave - which i knewed - and should be
back to office now.

best regards
Juergen


[1]
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=at.rundquadrat.android.r2mail2
[2]
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=at.rundquadrat.android.r2mail2license

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Re: GPG on Android

[Juergen BRUCKNER]

Hello!

Sorry for late reply, your message was classified as spam :(

Am 04.11.18 um 10:04 schrieb gnupgpac...@on.yourweb.de:
> 
> Hello Juergen,
> thanks for kind explanation about MailDroid :)
> 
Youre very welcome

> Does MailDroid support several different mail accounts using GPG and/or
> S/Mime?
> 
Yes, MailDroid does support several different mail accounts.
You can mix the crypto functions with each account, means you can use
GPG for account A and C, S/MIME for B and combine GPG and S/MIME for D.

I personally recommend the paid version of MailDroid, named "MailDroid
pro" as it has a bit more functions than the free app.
The costs are around 8-10 EUR.

Be aware that you need also the Flipdog CryptoPlugin, in which you
manage keys and certs. It has its own certificate store and acess the
device store as well.

> I am using K9-Mail in conjunction with CipherMail for S/Mime, but CiperMail
> only supports *one* S/Mime account...

Yes this problem is well known

> Thx and regards!
> 
> 

If you have any questions please do not hesitate to write me. you can
also write directly if you prefer.

best regards from Austria
Juergen



>> --
>>
>> Message: 5
>> Date: Sat, 3 Nov 2018 19:13:52 +0100
>> From: Juergen BRUCKNER 
>> To: gnupg-users@gnupg.org
>> Subject: Re: GPG on Android
>> Message-ID: 
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>>
>> Hello Masha,
>>
>> as you are new to this whole topic, I guess the easiest way to use
>> encrypted mail (either GPG and/or S/MIME) on a Android device would be
>> the app "MailDroid".
>> It comes in a free version[1] (with advertisings) and in a "pro"
>> version[2] (without advertisings) and supports both GPG and S/MIME.
>> MailDroid also supports POP and IMAP, and works fine with Googlemail.
>>
>> You need to install the additional Flipdog CryptoPlugin[3] on your
>> device, where you import and manage the keys.
>> You have to create the keys for example on a desktop computer and import
>> it to your android device and into the CryptoPlugin.
>>
>> I use MailDroid since several years without any problems, and can fully
>> recommend it for beginners.
>>
>> There is also a app named "K-9 Mail"[4], which supports GPG (but not
>> S/MIME). As far I know you also need several additional software for K-9
>> Mail.
>> In my eyes its not really recommendable for beginners. I tried it years
>> ago and found it a bit complicated to use for myself. But thats a
>> personal opinion.
>>
>> The best would be to try both, MailDroid and K-9 Mail and then make your
>> personal choice.
>> If you need help with MailDroid you can contact me. For K-9 Mail I am
>> sure that here are also some people who can help you with it.
>>
>> best regards
>> Juergen
>>
>> [1] https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.maildroid
>> [2] https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.maildroid.pro
>> [3]
>> https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.flipdog.crypto.plugin
>> [4] https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.fsck.k9
>>
> 

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[gnupgpacker]

Hello Juergen,
thanks for kind explanation about MailDroid :)

Does MailDroid support several different mail accounts using GPG and/or
S/Mime?

I am using K9-Mail in conjunction with CipherMail for S/Mime, but CiperMail
only supports *one* S/Mime account...

Thx and regards!


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> 
> Message: 5
> Date: Sat, 3 Nov 2018 19:13:52 +0100
> From: Juergen BRUCKNER 
> To: gnupg-users@gnupg.org
> Subject: Re: GPG on Android
> Message-ID: 
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
> 
> Hello Masha,
> 
> as you are new to this whole topic, I guess the easiest way to use
> encrypted mail (either GPG and/or S/MIME) on a Android device would be
> the app "MailDroid".
> It comes in a free version[1] (with advertisings) and in a "pro"
> version[2] (without advertisings) and supports both GPG and S/MIME.
> MailDroid also supports POP and IMAP, and works fine with Googlemail.
> 
> You need to install the additional Flipdog CryptoPlugin[3] on your
> device, where you import and manage the keys.
> You have to create the keys for example on a desktop computer and import
> it to your android device and into the CryptoPlugin.
> 
> I use MailDroid since several years without any problems, and can fully
> recommend it for beginners.
> 
> There is also a app named "K-9 Mail"[4], which supports GPG (but not
> S/MIME). As far I know you also need several additional software for K-9
> Mail.
> In my eyes its not really recommendable for beginners. I tried it years
> ago and found it a bit complicated to use for myself. But thats a
> personal opinion.
> 
> The best would be to try both, MailDroid and K-9 Mail and then make your
> personal choice.
> If you need help with MailDroid you can contact me. For K-9 Mail I am
> sure that here are also some people who can help you with it.
> 
> best regards
> Juergen
> 
> [1] https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.maildroid
> [2] https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.maildroid.pro
> [3]
> https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.flipdog.crypto.plugin
> [4] https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.fsck.k9
> 


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Re: GPG on Android

[Yagthara Aghhay-Boor]

Hello All!

Thank you very much for your answers. I'll try to sort things out and test
the suggested android apps.
If there are any questions left, I'll come back to you guys.

best
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Re: GPG on Android

[Juergen BRUCKNER]

Hello Masha,

as you are new to this whole topic, I guess the easiest way to use
encrypted mail (either GPG and/or S/MIME) on a Android device would be
the app "MailDroid".
It comes in a free version[1] (with advertisings) and in a "pro"
version[2] (without advertisings) and supports both GPG and S/MIME.
MailDroid also supports POP and IMAP, and works fine with Googlemail.

You need to install the additional Flipdog CryptoPlugin[3] on your
device, where you import and manage the keys.
You have to create the keys for example on a desktop computer and import
it to your android device and into the CryptoPlugin.

I use MailDroid since several years without any problems, and can fully
recommend it for beginners.

There is also a app named "K-9 Mail"[4], which supports GPG (but not
S/MIME). As far I know you also need several additional software for K-9
Mail.
In my eyes its not really recommendable for beginners. I tried it years
ago and found it a bit complicated to use for myself. But thats a
personal opinion.

The best would be to try both, MailDroid and K-9 Mail and then make your
personal choice.
If you need help with MailDroid you can contact me. For K-9 Mail I am
sure that here are also some people who can help you with it.

best regards
Juergen

[1] https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.maildroid
[2] https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.maildroid.pro
[3] https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.flipdog.crypto.plugin
[4] https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.fsck.k9



Am 03.11.18 um 17:04 schrieb Yagthara Aghhay-Boor:
> Hello Group,
> 
> I'm very new to GPG and email encryption and looking for a app to use gpg
> and signed email on my android devices.
> Can you recommend me a email app to use with pgp on Android?
> 
> best
> Masha
> 
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Re: GPG on Android

[Chris Horry]

OpenKeychain plus K9, both free and fully featured. 

On November 3, 2018 12:04:45 PM EDT, Yagthara Aghhay-Boor 
 wrote:
>Hello Group,
>
>I'm very new to GPG and email encryption and looking for a app to use
>gpg
>and signed email on my android devices.
>Can you recommend me a email app to use with pgp on Android?
>
>best
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Re: GPG on Android

[Wiktor Kwapisiewicz via Gnupg-users]

On 03.11.2018 17:04, Yagthara Aghhay-Boor wrote:
> Hello Group,
> 
> I'm very new to GPG and email encryption and looking for a app to use
> gpg and signed email on my android devices.
> Can you recommend me a email app to use with pgp on Android?

Hi,

I recommend using OpenKeychain [0] with K9-Mail. I'm using this combo
for a long time and never had any real problems.

OpenKeychain also supports hardware OpenPGP tokens [1], this makes the
key setup *very* easy on a new phone (not to mention that Termbot can be
added to the mix to login to remote server via SSH keys derived from
OpenPGP Authentication keys).

Kind regards,
Wiktor

[0]: https://www.openkeychain.org/

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[Yagthara Aghhay-Boor]

Hello Group,

I'm very new to GPG and email encryption and looking for a app to use gpg
and signed email on my android devices.
Can you recommend me a email app to use with pgp on Android?

best
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[Yagthara Aghhay-Boor]

Hello Group,

I'm very new to GPG and email encryption and looking for a app to use gpg
and signed email on my android devices.
Can you recommend me a email app to use with pgp on Android?

best
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Re: Android/Termux: How to build gpg-agent without maintainer mode?

[Felix E. Klee]

On 8/22/18, Dirk Gottschalk 
wrote:
> This depends on the source of your source version. If it is from a
> release tarball, this shouldn't bother you.
>
> I only get this warning if I have compiled from the GIT repository.

Uh oh, I didn’t check out a release! Changed the [build
instructions][1] now to also include:

$ git checkout gnupg-2.2.9 # matches GnuPG in Termux

Thanks for pointing me in the right direction!

> I don't know if it is possible to compile only the agent.

Doesn’t really matter anyhow. The compile process on my phone is quite
fast, profiting from the multi core architecture.

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Re: Android/Termux: How to build gpg-agent without maintainer mode?

[Dirk Gottschalk via Gnupg-users]

Am Mittwoch, den 22.08.2018, 13:21 +0200 schrieb Felix E. Klee:
> On Wed, Aug 22, 2018 at 1:08 PM, Dirk Gottschalk
>  wrote:
> > There's nothing what should "bug" you.
> 
> Well if I call `g10/gpg` in the build, I get a big fat warning:
> 
> gpg: NOTE: THIS IS A DEVELOPMENT VERSION!
> gpg: It is only intended for test purposes and should NOT be
> gpg: used in a production environment or with production keys!
> 
> *Shouldn’t that bug me?*

This depends on the source of your source version. If it is from a
release tarball, this shouldn't bother you.

I only get this warning if I have compiled from the GIT repository.

> That being said:
> 
>   * The `agent/gpg-agent` does not output the warning.
> 
>   * As said in my original post, I am only interested in the agent.
> It
> is compatible with the `gpg` provided with Termux.

I don't know if it is possible to compile only the agent. 

Regards,
Dirk

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Re: Android/Termux: How to build gpg-agent without maintainer mode?

[Felix E. Klee]

On Wed, Aug 22, 2018 at 1:08 PM, Dirk Gottschalk
 wrote:
> There's nothing what should "bug" you.

Well if I call `g10/gpg` in the build, I get a big fat warning:

gpg: NOTE: THIS IS A DEVELOPMENT VERSION!
gpg: It is only intended for test purposes and should NOT be
gpg: used in a production environment or with production keys!

*Shouldn’t that bug me?*

That being said:

  * The `agent/gpg-agent` does not output the warning.

  * As said in my original post, I am only interested in the agent. It
is compatible with the `gpg` provided with Termux.

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Re: Android/Termux: How to build gpg-agent without maintainer mode?

[Dirk Gottschalk via Gnupg-users]

Hi.

Am Mittwoch, den 22.08.2018, 11:07 +0200 schrieb Felix E. Klee:
> I managed to get `gpg-agent` run with USB smart card support under
> Android/Termux:
> 
> https://gist.github.com/feklee/92f76d2c8a7cabc477360d82b5305c19
> 
> What bugs me is that I had to compile in maintainer mode: Now I get
> warnings that the software should not used be used with production
> keys.
> 
> Maintainer mode is in fact suggested by `autogen.sh`:
> [...snipped...]

Maintainer mode is needed, especially in a fresh copy of the source. In
case of GnuPG, maintainer mode invokes some functions and does some
work which is needed to compile GnuPG. There's nothing what should
"bug" you.

Regards,
Dirk

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Android/Termux: How to build gpg-agent without maintainer mode?

[Felix E. Klee]

I managed to get `gpg-agent` run with USB smart card support under
Android/Termux:

https://gist.github.com/feklee/92f76d2c8a7cabc477360d82b5305c19

What bugs me is that I had to compile in maintainer mode: Now I get
warnings that the software should not used be used with production keys.

Maintainer mode is in fact suggested by `autogen.sh`:

$ git clone git://git.gnupg.org/gnupg.git
[…]
$ cd gnupg
$ export C_INCLUDE_PATH=$PREFIX/include/:$PREFIX/include/libusb-1.0/
:$PREFIX/include/libandroid-support
$ ./autogen.sh
[…]
autogen.sh: You may now run:
  ./configure --sysconfdir=/etc --enable-maintainer-mode  && make

If I try without maintainer mode, then I get:

$ ./configure
[output attached]
$ make
make  all-recursive
make[1]: Entering directory '/data/data/com.termux/files/home/src/g/
gnupg'
Making all in m4
make[2]: Entering directory '/data/data/com.termux/files/home/src/g/
gnupg/m4'
make[2]: Nothing to be done for 'all'.
make[2]: Leaving directory '/data/data/com.termux/files/home/src/g/
gnupg/m4'
Making all in common
make[2]: Entering directory '/data/data/com.termux/files/home/src/g/
gnupg/common'
make[2]: *** No rule to make target 'audit-events.h', needed by 'all
'.  Stop.
make[2]: Leaving directory '/data/data/com.termux/files/home/src/g/g
nupg/common'
make[1]: *** [Makefile:613: all-recursive] Error 1
make[1]: Leaving directory '/data/data/com.termux/files/home/src/g/g
nupg'
make: *** [Makefile:533: all] Error 2

*How do I build `gpg-agent` without maintainer mode?*

Note that I only need the agent, so I could probably speed up compile
time by quite a lot if disable the other tools in `./configure`. But
that’s not a priority now.


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Re: Is there an easy way to create an Android application?

[Genghuang Wang]

Hello

There is an old project for porting GnuPG to Android, by the Guardian
Project, but is no longer maintained. The old website is in
https://guardianproject.info/code/gnupg/ , But this project recommends
an Android APP called OpenKeychain. It is an OpenPGP implementation
for Android. It is hosted at
https://github.com/open-keychain/open-keychain .  It is open source in
the license of GPLv3.

If you would like to develop an application based on OpenKeychain, you
have to open source in GPLv3, too.

On 4 March 2018 at 13:11, 1301716...@qq.com <1301716...@qq.com> wrote:
> If I want to create a Android front end for gpg. Is there an easy way? Maybe 
> use command-line to interaction with gpg?
> My English is poor.
> Thank you.
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Re: Is there an easy way to create an Android application?

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On 일, 04 3월 2018 13:11 +0800, "1301716...@qq.com" <1301716...@qq.com> wrote:
> If I want to create a Android front end for gpg. Is there an easy way? 
> Maybe use command-line to interaction with gpg?
> My English is poor.
> Thank you.
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If you just need Android front-end for GPG, please consider using OpenKeychain. 
But if you want to create an application, you should learn how to make 
application and take a look at some PGP library.

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Is there an easy way to create an Android application?

[1301716...@qq.com]

If I want to create a Android front end for gpg. Is there an easy way? Maybe 
use command-line to interaction with gpg?
My English is poor.
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Re: GnuPG on Android [was: Re: FAQ and GNU]

[Bernhard Reiter]

Hi,

note that a search for "Android" in wiki.gnupg.org would have shown you the 
Guardian port of GnuPG 2.1 to Android. (I've added additional details now.)

Am Mittwoch 11 Oktober 2017 16:40:42 schrieb Daniel Kahn Gillmor:
> here's the project i was thinking of that was farthest along in terms of
> system integration on Android is:
>
>    https://guardianproject.info/code/gnupg/

In 2016 I've downloaded and briefly tried the app. It also was available from 
the Free Software app store for Android: fdroid. So it indeed build and ran.

The 2016 study for using OpenPGP on Android (in German) linked from
  https://wiki.gnupg.org/Gpg4all2015?highlight=(Android)
has a more elaborate discussion of the port. It tests the 2014 version
that was supposed to be installed from the app store between 100k and 500k 
times.

Best Regards,
Bernhard


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GnuPG on Android [was: Re: FAQ and GNU]

[Daniel Kahn Gillmor]

On Wed 2017-10-11 09:15:41 +0200, Neal H. Walfield wrote:
> At Wed, 11 Oct 2017 08:26:21 +0200,
> Werner Koch wrote:
>> On Tue, 10 Oct 2017 20:55, b...@adversary.org said:
>> 
>> > Has anyone managed to get any part of the GPG libs to compile on
>> > Android/Linux?  As far as I'm aware no one has and all OpenPGP
>> 
>> There might be a problems with the current release but GnuPG is expected
>> to build for Android just fine.  And on AIX and HP/UX.  There might be
>> build problems but that are bugs we need to fix.
>
> I'm aware of an effort that tried to port GnuPG to Android.  bionic
> was a source of several problems.  As far as I know, the work is
> currently stalled.

I've been asked about this repeatedly myself, and my impression aligns
with what Neal is saying, but i'd be happy to be wrong.

here's the project i was thinking of that was farthest along in terms of
system integration on Android is:

   https://guardianproject.info/code/gnupg/

At any rate, it sounds like the details here might be something that we
want to put in the FAQ :)

Clearly it is *not* the case that most Android-based Linux systems
(which is to say, most Linux-based systems, when measuring by
installation count) come with GnuPG installed by default, alas. :(

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Re: Can I able to integrate GNUPG windows version directly with the Android application

[Antony Prince]

On 4/24/2016 6:49 AM, MuthuSankaraNarayanan Valliammal wrote:
> Dear Sir,
> 
> can I able to integrate the GNUPG windows application directly in Android.
> or need to use the GNUPG Android Gaurdian application and then set the
> relevant paths,
> then apply that for running?.
> 

I just realized the project I linked was the exact one you were talking
about. :-) In this case though, I'd say there's no need to re-invent the
wheel. They've already got it ported to Android and if you can fit it to
your needs, then I'd go with that.


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Re: Can I able to integrate GNUPG windows version directly with the Android application

[Antony Prince]

On 4/24/2016 6:49 AM, MuthuSankaraNarayanan Valliammal wrote:
> Dear Sir,
> 
> can I able to integrate the GNUPG windows application directly in Android.
> or need to use the GNUPG Android Gaurdian application and then set the
> relevant paths,
> then apply that for running?.
> 

Guardianproject has a port of gnupg to android[1] that might be of some
use to you.

[1]https://github.com/guardianproject/gnupg-for-android

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Can I able to integrate GNUPG windows version directly with the Android application

[MuthuSankaraNarayanan Valliammal]

Dear Sir,

can I able to integrate the GNUPG windows application directly in Android.
or need to use the GNUPG Android Gaurdian application and then set the
relevant paths,
then apply that for running?.

Please let me know.

thanks ,
regards
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How can GPGME use GnuPG on Android

[Sandra Schreiner]

Hello,

Looking at gnupg-for-android I was wondering and amazed. How does a Android app 
manages to use GnuPG? As far as I understand the relationship between GPGME and 
GnuPG, GPGME gathers all necessary information from the app and sends the data 
to GnuPG in a 'command-line-based way' and receives the result. I know it is 
not that hard to use C++ libraries in Android (thanks to JNI and NDK). 
Therefore the connection between the java wrapper and the C++ part is no real 
mistery. 

I just can't imagine how this all works together with GnuPG. On a Linux pc 
there is a standard path for GnuPG, so GPGME can find and call it very easy. On 
Android - I guess - you have to bring your own GnuPG with the apk. But how does 
the C++ part of GPGME know where GnuPG is located? Does the whole communication 
work in the same manner as on a pc? Does the deviation of bionic and glibc 
affect GPGME and GnuPG in any way? I tried to understand how this is done in 
gnupg-for-android, however it seems like sorcery to me.

I would be very grateful if someone could help me to get a better basic 
understanding of the android <-> gpgme <->gnupg relationship. 

Many thanks in advance.

Sandra

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Trustworthy Android implementation ?

[Old_Professor]

I'm looking for a trustworthy and user-friendly 
encryption product to use on my Android smart 
phone.  I found four implementations of GPG. I 
don't know anything about the competence or 
trustworthiness of the implementers.


I'm concerned that if the phone is lost or 
stolen, how much resistance will the GPG 
implementation have to exposing my passphrase or private key.


I found:

APG - Thialfihar
Gnu Privacy Guard -The Guardian Project
OpenKeychain - Dominik Schürmann
PGP SMS lite - woodkick



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Re: Trustworthy Android implementation ?

[Mirimir]

On 04/27/2014 09:55 AM, Old_Professor wrote:
 I'm looking for a trustworthy and user-friendly encryption product to
 use on my Android smart phone.  I found four implementations of GPG. I
 don't know anything about the competence or trustworthiness of the
 implementers.
 
 I'm concerned that if the phone is lost or stolen, how much resistance
 will the GPG implementation have to exposing my passphrase or private key.
 
 I found:
 
 APG - Thialfihar
 Gnu Privacy Guard -The Guardian Project
 OpenKeychain - Dominik Schürmann
 PGP SMS lite - woodkick

Better perhaps would be full-disk encryption. Some implementations can
wipe storage after N authentication failures. I know Guardian Rom the
best http://shadowdcatconsulting.com/. There's also Mike Perry's
https://blog.torproject.org/blog/mission-impossible-hardening-android-security-and-privacy.

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Re: Trustworthy Android implementation ?

[Mirimir]

Somebody doesn't like me :(

 Original Message 
Subject: Re: Re: Trustworthy Android implementation ?
Date: Sun, 27 Apr 2014 13:20:35 -0700
From: [REDACTED]
Reply-To: [REDACTED]
To: mirimir miri...@riseup.net

hi Mirimir
I'm [REDACTED], I'm 24  and here're two photos of myself. Just got your
msg back about my ad, I think am not late to reply :( :(  ...


 Original Message 
Subject: Re: Re: Trustworthy Android implementation ?
Date: Sun, 27 Apr 2014 20:27:00 + (UTC)
From: [REDACTED]
Reply-To: [REDACTED]
To: mirimir miri...@riseup.net

Hey cool you wrote back :) Wasn't sure if you were real or not it's hard
to tell sometimes lol. Can you send me a recent pic to this email? Also
you are looking for something really casual right? ...

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Re: Trustworthy Android implementation ?

[Peter Lebbing]

On 27/04/14 22:40, Mirimir wrote:
 Somebody doesn't like me :(

It's just a spam issue here at the mailing list currently. Every message I
write, I get at least one, but more commonly two mails from so-called bachelor
ladies, usually with a picture taken by a girl in the bathroom mirror. NSFW.

Peter.

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Re: Trustworthy Android implementation ?

[Mirimir]

On 04/27/2014 02:48 PM, Peter Lebbing wrote:
 On 27/04/14 22:40, Mirimir wrote:
 Somebody doesn't like me :(
 
 It's just a spam issue here at the mailing list currently. Every message I
 write, I get at least one, but more commonly two mails from so-called bachelor
 ladies, usually with a picture taken by a girl in the bathroom mirror. NSFW.
 
 Peter.

Well, I don't mind free soft porn :)

But maybe it's from someone who's subscribed.

So hey, I invite y'all to send me complete headers for all that you get.
Maybe they slip up sometimes, and we can have some fun ;)


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Re: Trustworthy Android implementation ?

[Mirimir]

On 04/27/2014 02:48 PM, Peter Lebbing wrote:
 On 27/04/14 22:40, Mirimir wrote:
 Somebody doesn't like me :(
 
 It's just a spam issue here at the mailing list currently. Every message I
 write, I get at least one, but more commonly two mails from so-called bachelor
 ladies, usually with a picture taken by a girl in the bathroom mirror. NSFW.
 
 Peter.

Well, I've received several now from Clara Anne. All feature the same
woman, and were apparently shot in the same session. Also, there's a
list on the counter, with some entries crossed out. I'm guessing that
she was filling an order ;) And her face seems dead, so maybe she's a
junkie. Very sad, altogether :(


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Re: GnuPrivacyGuard for Android v0.3 released!

[Hans-Christoph Steiner]

On 03/13/2014 07:01 AM, Mike Cardwell wrote:
 * on the Wed, Mar 12, 2014 at 08:54:01PM -0400, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:
 
 GnuPrivacyGuard for Android (GPGA) brings GnuPG, the most trusted name in
 encryption, to Android.  Easily encrypt, decrypt, sign and verify files of 
 any
 kind, just by sharing them to GPGA. This app aims to provide a complete,
 integrated cryptographic toolkit integrated into the Android experience.
 
 Does it supply a system of interaction with other apps via intents, like
 APG does? I'm just wondering if other apps will be able to integrate
 with it in the same way that K-9 Mail integrates with APG to add OpenPGP
 encryption for email...

We tried to provide the same Intent API as APG, but in the process discovered
that in order you use that API, the app had to be pegged to APG anyhow.  So
instead, we've been working with Dominik Schuermann of OpenKeychain and the
K-9 Mail devs to work out a new, better, open API for any app to implement as
a OpenPGP provider, and any app to use for OpenPGP services.

Our notes on the effort are here, feedback welcome:
https://dev.guardianproject.info/projects/gpgandroid/wiki/API_Sketch

.hc

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Re: GnuPrivacyGuard for Android v0.3 released!

[Mike Cardwell]

* on the Wed, Mar 12, 2014 at 08:54:01PM -0400, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:

 GnuPrivacyGuard for Android (GPGA) brings GnuPG, the most trusted name in
 encryption, to Android.  Easily encrypt, decrypt, sign and verify files of any
 kind, just by sharing them to GPGA. This app aims to provide a complete,
 integrated cryptographic toolkit integrated into the Android experience.

Does it supply a system of interaction with other apps via intents, like
APG does? I'm just wondering if other apps will be able to integrate
with it in the same way that K-9 Mail integrates with APG to add OpenPGP
encryption for email...

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GnuPrivacyGuard for Android v0.3 released!

[Hans-Christoph Steiner]

GnuPrivacyGuard for Android (GPGA) brings GnuPG, the most trusted name in
encryption, to Android.  Easily encrypt, decrypt, sign and verify files of any
kind, just by sharing them to GPGA. This app aims to provide a complete,
integrated cryptographic toolkit integrated into the Android experience. GPGA
provides solid encryption for files private, and for verifying that files are
who you think they are.  It includes optimizations to make it operate many
times faster than other encryption packages on Android.

GPGA provides an integrated experience, so clicking on OpenPGP files just
works.  You can also share files to GPGA to decrypt, encrypt, sign, or verify
them.  GPGA will respond when you click on a OpenPGP fingerprint URL (one that
starts with openpgp4fpr:).

GPGA also gives you complete command line access to the entire GnuPG suite of
encryption software. It also serves as the test bed for complete Android
integration for all of GnuPG's crypto services, including OpenPGP, symmetric
encryption, and more.

GPGA is available in: Arabic (العربية), English, French (Français), German
(Deutsch), Norwegian (Norsk), Portuguese (Português), Spanish (Español).

Don’t see your language? Join us and help translate the app:
* https://www.transifex.com/projects/p/gpg

For a list of issues addressed in this version:
* https://dev.guardianproject.info/versions/90

For more info:
* https://guardianproject.info/code/gnupg/
* https://dev.guardianproject.info/projects/gpgandroid/wiki


***Download***

* Google Play:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=info.guardianproject.gpg
* FDroid: https://f-droid.org/repository/browse/?fdid=info.guardianproject.gpg
* direct download:
** https://guardianproject.info/releases/GnuPrivacyGuard-release-0.3.apk
** https://guardianproject.info/releases/GnuPrivacyGuard-release-0.3.apk.sig
** SHA1: dd36d1c8ea933d11a40586302376feaa4da28b0d


***Setup***
Before using GPGA, be sure to launch the app and let it finish its
installation process.  Once it has completed, then you're ready to use it!

If you want to use the command line, the easiest way to get started with GPGA
is to install Android Terminal Emulator. GPGA will automatically configure
Android Terminal Emulator as long as you have the Allow PATH extensions
settings enabled. Get the Android Terminal Emulator at
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=jackpal.androidterm


***Please Report Bugs***
This is a big project, so there will inevitably be bugs.  Help us improve this
software by filing bug reports about any problem that you encounter. Feature
requests are also welcome!
https://dev.guardianproject.info/projects/gpgandroid/issues



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Android and E2E security

[NdK]

Hi all.

Seems someone is actively working on securing phones in an
user-effortless way...

http://www.techthefuture.com/technology/cyanogenmod-brings-system-wide-secure-messaging-to-android-phones

I've only had a quick look at it and something yet doesn't sound
right, but might be just an impression...

BYtE,
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Re: gnupg for android phones

[Mike Cardwell]

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* on the Thu, Feb 14, 2013 at 05:09:44PM -0500, ved...@nym.hush.com wrote:

 As ubuntu has gnupg as a standard application by default, then it
 would seem that the new phones might have gnupg capablility.
 (might be interesting for texting ;-)  ).

I use Android Privacy Guard with K-9 Mail on my Cyanogenmod/Android
phone for email encryption. I use TextSecure for public key crypto
with SMS delivery and storage.

 As android apps can have malware that can capture stored files on the
 phone, or even root the phone, it might not be a good idea to keep a
 secret keyring on the phone.

I made a few small local modifications to Android Privacy Guard so that
I could make it work after only putting my subkeys on there and not my
master key. The changes I made were pretty crude though so I never
pushed them back to the main repo. Details here:

https://grepular.com/Android_Privacy_Guard_and_Subkeys

 Still, if there would be a way to get a smartcard reader to usb
 connect to the phone, it might make it much easier and safer to use
 gnupg with it.

Personally, I'm not sure I have the pocket space to carry a smart card
reader around with me, or the patience to pull it out and plug it in
each time I want to read an email/sms. I agree that it would be cool
though.

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gnupg for android phones

[vedaal]

Ubuntu is releasing an app for android phones, and some phones running ubuntu 
are said to become available in October 2013.

http://www.ubuntu.com/devices/android
http://www.examiner.com/article/first-ubuntu-for-android-handsets-to-release-october

As ubuntu has gnupg as a standard application by default, then it would seem 
that the new phones might have gnupg capablility.
(might be interesting for texting ;-)  ).

But,

As android apps can have malware that can capture stored files on the phone, or 
even root the phone, it might not be a good idea to keep a secret keyring on 
the phone.

Still, if there would be a way to get a smartcard reader to usb connect to the 
phone, it might make it much easier and safer to use gnupg with it.

If anyone would like to help try this out, please let me know.

(am currently using a motorola droid 2, but if, in Oct. there would be a 
motorola droid 5 or an ubuntu app that would run on a droid 4, I would consider 
upgrading  -  
am from the generation of the previous millenium, and still prefer a hard 
keyboard to a touchscreen, and the droid 4 has a slider keyboard, 1g of ram, 
and a dual core processor, so it seems 'promising' to find a way to get ubnutu 
to recognize a usb gnupg smart card reader  ;-)   )


tia,
vedaal


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Re: gnupg for android phones

[Kendrick A. Eastes]

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Hash: SHA256


Why not use APG 
(HTTPS://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=org.thialfihar.android.ago) and 
K-9 mail (HTTPS://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.fsck.k9) it may be 
a case of works for me but so far I haven't had any major problems with it.

Note: sent from my DROID RAZR with the above mentioned apps.

 ved...@nym.hush.com wrote:

Ubuntu is releasing an app for android phones, and some phones running
ubuntu are said to become available in October 2013.

http://www.ubuntu.com/devices/android
http://www.examiner.com/article/first-ubuntu-for-android-handsets-to-release-october

As ubuntu has gnupg as a standard application by default, then it would
seem that the new phones might have gnupg capablility.
(might be interesting for texting ;-)  ).

But,

As android apps can have malware that can capture stored files on the
phone, or even root the phone, it might not be a good idea to keep a
secret keyring on the phone.

Still, if there would be a way to get a smartcard reader to usb connect
to the phone, it might make it much easier and safer to use gnupg with
it.

If anyone would like to help try this out, please let me know.

(am currently using a motorola droid 2, but if, in Oct. there would be
a motorola droid 5 or an ubuntu app that would run on a droid 4, I
would consider upgrading  -
am from the generation of the previous millenium, and still prefer a
hard keyboard to a touchscreen, and the droid 4 has a slider keyboard,
1g of ram, and a dual core processor, so it seems 'promising' to find a
way to get ubnutu to recognize a usb gnupg smart card reader  ;-)   )


tia,
vedaal


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Re: Can IPAD or Android Tablets create Keys and use gnupg

[mercuryrising]

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An old post from last year said:




On Wed, Aug 29 at 12:42 AM (UTC), Landon Hurley ljrhur...@gmail.com wrote:
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shavital at mac

Jan 23, 2011, 8:48 AM

Post #3 of 11 (10237 views) Permalink

Re: Gpg for iPhone or iPad Remove Highlighting [In reply to]

Benjamin Donnachie wrote the following on 1/23/11 7:08 AM:  There's oPenPG 
Lite available from the App Store but it doesn't work  with my private key! 
YMMV of course!   Ben

oPenGP Lite (couldn't find any version without the 'Lite'). This version works 
one way, it decrypts only, doesn't encrypt. This is a PGP Corporation (owned by 
Symantec now) App, hence the upper case PGP in oPenGP.

I don't know whether there is, or will be, a Mobile GnuPG what will work under 
iPhone or iPad iOS.

I generated on my Mac a new key pair (default RSA/RSA 2048). I didn't want to 
use my regular key.

Exported the secret key to the Mac's Desktop.

Connected the iPhone via iTunes (hardwired USB)

Imported the secret key to the iPhone via iTunes and an App called 'Files' 
http://www.olivetoast.com/files/.

In 'Files' I could see the key block, select all/copy.

Back to oPenGP, Import clipboard, ascertained that the key is now in the 
keyring.

Back to 'Files', set an access locked code. Checked that it works. Deleted the 
secret key keyblock.

Sent myself a test message encrypted with the public key of the above keypair.

Downloaded the e-mail in iPhone, select all/copy.

Back to oPenGP, Import/Decrypt Clipboard, enter the passphrase.

It works.

I don't feel at ease having my secret key in my iPhone, but i can learn to live 
with it, if I really want to use this iPhone feature. I'm not sure I want to.

Charly


So ios can use PGP on iphones and ipads?

 What are the security issues?  How safe is the private key and pass phrase on 
these devices?

Procopius


 APGW functions on android remarkabl
y well, with key servers and
 key
 generation features. The only thing missing that comes to mind
 is the
 WOT side. As long as this is between friends, that becomes
 relatively
 unnecessary. Also possible is to just import pre existing keys.
 Also of
 interest would be whether sufficient entropy exists on the
 device to
 actually generate a secure key, so caveat emptor, so to speak.
 Both
 elgamal and rsa keys of up to unspecified sizes can be
 generated, but
 the instructions within the app suggest 8192 at least; more
 than
 sufficient.  As noted in another reply, PGP/mime is not
 supported. That
 functionality may be an issue, but given all three of the
 replies that
 I've seen to your query (including mine) are inline, that
 shouldn't be a
 problem with day to day operations.

 Attachments do not have sigs produced for them when emailed, but
 you can
 manually encrypt them using the APG app before attaching them to
 an
 email. K-9 works well with that app. File compression and
 message
 compression are both supported, most if not all of the
 encryption and
 hashing algorithms commonly found in gnupg are incorporated, and
 the app
 even supports ASCII armoured docs. All in all, an excellent
 tool.
 Someone recently forked the APG app, around the same time I was
 looking
 at doing the same, since the project has been inactive for
 nearly two
 years. His name escapes me, but he also manages the ad-away app.
 Also,
 The Guardian Project is porting gnupg.

 All in all an excellent project, highly recommended.

 //landon


  Original Message 
 From: mercuryris...@hush.ai
 Sent: Tue Aug 28 19:49:57 EDT 2012
 To: Mika Suomalainen mka...@users.sourceforge.net,
 gnupg-users@gnupg.org
 Subject: Re: Can IPAD or Android Tablets create Keys and use
 gnupg

 Thank you both for replying to my question about IPODs and
 Androids.  It
 sounds like neither will work to be fully functional with gnupg
 or PGP
 then.  Perhaps I should get a small laptop computer.  I wonder
 if one of
 those small driveless computers and a USB storage device would
 work.  I
 need an inexpensive solution for a friend.in Europe.  Since
 Poland and
 the Ukraine are in the European Union there shouldn't be any
 problem
 using PGP for private communication among friends right? I have
 been
 using PGP since the  90's as a hobby and believe if privacy is
 not use
 it will be lost.  I used to chat with Julf at Anon penit fi back
 then to
 but not with PGP.

 Procopius

 On Tue, Aug 28 at 02:04 PM (UTC), Mika Suomalainen
 mka...@users.sourceforge.net wrote:

  28.08.2012 07:48, mercuryris...@hush.ai kirjoitti:
   Can IPAD or ANDROID TABLETS create gnupgp
 private/public
  keys and
   use gnupg or is that still relegated to Windows/Vista,
 Mac
  OSX and
   Linux on desktop and laptop/notebook computer
 platforms?
  
 
  There is APG (Android Privacy Guard) in Google Play Store,
 which
  can
  be used by e.g. K9 Mail

Re: Can IPAD or Android Tablets create Keys and use gnupg

[Sin Trenton]

Sorry, forgot to change the subject line. Running digestive mode for a
bit here.

BR

Sin T.

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Re: Can IPAD or Android Tablets create Keys and use gnupg

[gnupg]

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
Hash: SHA512

On 28/08/12 05:48, mercuryris...@hush.ai wrote:

 Can IPAD or ANDROID TABLETS create gnupgp private/public keys and
 use gnupg or is that still relegated to Windows/Vista, Mac OSX and
 Linux on desktop and laptop/notebook computer platforms?

I use APG (Android Privacy Guard) on my Android phone for this:

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=org.thialfihar.android.apg

I use the IMAP client K-9 Mail which uses APG for PGP functionality.

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.fsck.k9

K-9 Mail only supports inline PGP though. I'm not aware of any email
application on Android which provides PGP/MIME support at this time.
The authors of K-9 Mail have been saying for over two years now that
they will provide PGP/MIME support. I'm no longer optimistic about this.

It's also worth noting that The Guardian Project is working on porting
GnuPG to Android:

https://guardianproject.info/2012/03/15/adventures-in-porting-gnupg-2-1-x-to-android/

- -- 
Mike Cardwell  https://grepular.com/ http://cardwellit.com/
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Re: Can IPAD or Android Tablets create Keys and use gnupg

[Mika Suomalainen]

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28.08.2012 07:48, mercuryris...@hush.ai kirjoitti:
 Can IPAD or ANDROID TABLETS create gnupgp private/public keys and
 use gnupg or is that still relegated to Windows/Vista, Mac OSX and
 Linux on desktop and laptop/notebook computer platforms?
 

There is APG (Android Privacy Guard) in Google Play Store, which can
be used by e.g. K9 Mail, which can sign, decrypt and encrypt messages.
I am not sure can it generate keys, by itself, but it accepts keys
created in gnupg.

More information at [APG home page] and [K9 Mail Google Code page].

[APG home page]:http://thialfihar.org/projects/apg/
[K9 Mail Google Code page]:http://code.google.com/p/k9mail/

- -- 
Mika Suomalainen

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[mercuryrising]

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Hash: SHA1

Thank you both for replying to my question about IPODs and Androids.  It sounds 
like neither will work to be fully functional with gnupg or pgp then.  Perhaps 
I should get a small laptop computer.  I wonder if one of those small driveless 
computers and a USB storage device would work.  I need an inexpensive solution 
for a friend.in Europe.  Since Poland and the Ukraine are in the European Union 
there shouldn't be any problem using pgp for private communication among 
friends right? I have been using pgp since the  90's as a hobby and believe if 
privacy is not use it will be lost.  I used to chat with Julf at Anon penit fi 
back then to but not with pgp.

Procopius

On Tue, Aug 28 at 02:04 PM (UTC), Mika Suomalainen 
mka...@users.sourceforge.net wrote:

 28.08.2012 07:48, mercuryris...@hush.ai kirjoitti:
  Can IPAD or ANDROID TABLETS create gnupgp private/public
 keys and
  use gnupg or is that still relegated to Windows/Vista, Mac
 OSX and
  Linux on desktop and laptop/notebook computer platforms?
 

 There is APG (Android Privacy Guard) in Google Play Store, which
 can
 be used by e.g. K9 Mail, which can sign, decrypt and encrypt
 messages.
 I am not sure can it generate keys, by itself, but it accepts
 keys
 created in gnupg.

 More information at [APG home page] and [K9 Mail Google Code
 page].

 [APG home page]:http://thialfihar.org/projects/apg/
 [K9 Mail Google Code page]:http://code.google.com/p/k9mail/

 --
 Mika Suomalainen
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Re: Can IPAD or Android Tablets create Keys and use gnupg

[Landon Hurley]

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Hash: SHA512

APG functions on android remarkably well, with key servers and key
generation features. The only thing missing that comes to mind is the
WOT side. As long as this is between friends, that becomes relatively
unnecessary. Also possible is to just import pre existing keys. Also of
interest would be whether sufficient entropy exists on the device to
actually generate a secure key, so caveat emptor, so to speak. Both
elgamal and rsa keys of up to unspecified sizes can be generated, but
the instructions within the app suggest 8192 at least; more than
sufficient.  As noted in another reply, PGP/mime is not supported. That
functionality may be an issue, but given all three of the replies that
I've seen to your query (including mine) are inline, that shouldn't be a
problem with day to day operations.

Attachments do not have sigs produced for them when emailed, but you can
manually encrypt them using the APG app before attaching them to an
email. K-9 works well with that app. File compression and message
compression are both supported, most if not all of the encryption and
hashing algorithms commonly found in gnupg are incorporated, and the app
even supports ASCII armoured docs. All in all, an excellent tool.
Someone recently forked the APG app, around the same time I was looking
at doing the same, since the project has been inactive for nearly two
years. His name escapes me, but he also manages the ad-away app. Also,
The Guardian Project is porting gnupg.

All in all an excellent project, highly recommended.

//landon


-  Original Message 
From: mercuryris...@hush.ai
Sent: Tue Aug 28 19:49:57 EDT 2012
To: Mika Suomalainen mka...@users.sourceforge.net, gnupg-users@gnupg.org
Subject: Re: Can IPAD or Android Tablets create Keys and use gnupg

Thank you both for replying to my question about IPODs and Androids.  It
sounds like neither will work to be fully functional with gnupg or PGP
then.  Perhaps I should get a small laptop computer.  I wonder if one of
those small driveless computers and a USB storage device would work.  I
need an inexpensive solution for a friend.in Europe.  Since Poland and
the Ukraine are in the European Union there shouldn't be any problem
using PGP for private communication among friends right? I have been
using PGP since the  90's as a hobby and believe if privacy is not use
it will be lost.  I used to chat with Julf at Anon penit fi back then to
but not with PGP.

Procopius

On Tue, Aug 28 at 02:04 PM (UTC), Mika Suomalainen
mka...@users.sourceforge.net wrote:

 28.08.2012 07:48, mercuryris...@hush.ai kirjoitti:
  Can IPAD or ANDROID TABLETS create gnupgp private/public
 keys and
  use gnupg or is that still relegated to Windows/Vista, Mac
 OSX and
  Linux on desktop and laptop/notebook computer platforms?
 

 There is APG (Android Privacy Guard) in Google Play Store, which
 can
 be used by e.g. K9 Mail, which can sign, decrypt and encrypt
 messages.
 I am not sure can it generate keys, by itself, but it accepts
 keys
 created in gnupg.

 More information at [APG home page] and [K9 Mail Google Code
 page].

 [APG home page]:http://thialfihar.org/projects/apg/
 [K9 Mail Google Code page]:http://code.google.com/p/k9mail/

 --
 Mika Suomalainen
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Re: Can IPAD or Android Tablets create Keys and use gnupg

[mercuryrising]

I meant to say IPADs not IPODSProcopius
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On August 28, 2012 at 4:52 PM, mercuryris...@hush.ai wrote:Thank you
both for replying to my question about IPODs and Androids.  It sounds
like neither will work to be fully functional with gnupg or pgp then. 
Perhaps I should get a small laptop computer.  I wonder if one of
those small driveless computers and a USB storage device would work. 
I need an inexpensive solution for a friend.in Europe.  Since Poland
and the Ukraine are in the European Union there shouldn't be any
problem using pgp for private communication among friends right? I
have been using pgp since the  90's as a hobby and believe if privacy
is not use it will be lost.  I used to chat with Julf at Anon penit fi
back then to but not with pgp.

Procopius

On Tue, Aug 28 at 02:04 PM (UTC), Mika Suomalainen  wrote:

 28.08.2012 07:48, mercuryris...@hush.ai kirjoitti:
  Can IPAD or ANDROID TABLETS create gnupgp private/public
 keys and
  use gnupg or is that still relegated to Windows/Vista, Mac
 OSX and
  Linux on desktop and laptop/notebook computer platforms?
 

 There is APG (Android Privacy Guard) in Google Play Store, which
 can
 be used by e.g. K9 Mail, which can sign, decrypt and encrypt
 messages.
 I am not sure can it generate keys, by itself, but it accepts
 keys
 created in gnupg.

 More information at [APG home page] and [K9 Mail Google Code
 page].

 [APG home page]:http://thialfihar.org/projects/apg/
 [K9 Mail Google Code page]:http://code.google.com/p/k9mail/

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Can IPAD or Android Tablets create Keys and use gnupg

[mercuryrising]

Can IPAD or ANDROID TABLETS create gnupgp private/public keys and use
gnupg or is that still relegated to Windows/Vista, Mac OSX and Linux
on desktop and laptop/notebook computer platforms?
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Android PGP/MIME test results

[Grant Olson]

Provider: Boost
Manufacturer: Motorola
Model: I1
Droid version: 1.5

This phone has two mail applications by default, one called 'email' and
another called 'gmail'.  Both displayed PGP/MIME messages without any
trouble.  Neither verified sigs of course.

I see no easy way to determine the version number of either of these
apps.  If anyone has tips on how I can get this info, let me know.

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Re: Android PGP/MIME test results

[Aaron Toponce]

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
Hash: SHA512

Grant Olson k...@grant-olson.net wrote:

Provider: Boost
Manufacturer: Motorola
Model: I1
Droid version: 1.5

This phone has two mail applications by default, one called 'email' and
another called 'gmail'.  Both displayed PGP/MIME messages without any
trouble.  Neither verified sigs of course.

I see no easy way to determine the version number of either of these
apps.  If anyone has tips on how I can get this info, let me know.

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This mail reads fine on K9, the default mail client shipped with the HTC Evo, 
and Google's Gmail client. K9 can verify the signature due to the integration 
with APG. The other two cannot, but they can view the signature.asc text. FYI.

Provider: Sprint
Phone: HTC Evo 4g
Android: 2.2.1
- --
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M8A17DCwZ44/3vskUWlMearEpXst9r40J/n8sI7AvQOvOZKDlwTR5g==
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Re: Android PGP/MIME test results

[David Shaw]

Not exactly Android, but FWIW, an iPod touch (which has the same mail program 
as an iPhone) displays PGP/MIME just fine (as in shows the mail - but doesn't 
verify the signature).

David


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Re: Android PGP/MIME test results

[Grant Olson]

On 02/27/2011 11:29 PM, David Shaw wrote:
 Not exactly Android, but FWIW, an iPod touch (which has the same mail program 
 as an iPhone) displays PGP/MIME just fine (as in shows the mail - but doesn't 
 verify the signature).
 
 David
 
 

It's worth a lot.

Since the rational behind this thread is buried in a long convoluted
thread about PGP/MIME vs PGP/Inline, allow me to re-explain.  I imagine
some people got sick of that thread and are ignoring it.

It seems Robert experienced the Outlook Express problem on his Droid,
where a PGP/MIME message didn't get displayed properly on his phone, and
instead showed a blank message.

I just wanted to gague how severe the problem was, by getting feedback
from various people's smartphones.

So if you've got a smartphone, and you check your email on it, please do
reply to this thread, letting me know:

- The service provider

- The make and model of the phone.

- The droid version.

- The email application(s) installed.

- If said application(s) displayed the text of a PGP/MIME message so
that you could read the message.

- If said application(s) could verify a message.  (The answer here is
probably no, but it seems like at least one person said K-9 mail could
verify PGP/MIME.)

- Any other pertinent information.

That'll help everyone gauge the severity of the problem and adjust their
preferences accordingly.

Thanks,

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Re: Android PGP/MIME test results

[Robert J. Hansen]

 - The service provider

Verizon Wireless.

 - The make and model of the phone.

Droid X

 - The droid version.

2.2.1

 - The email application(s) installed.

Unknown: just the default Verizon Wireless email messaging app.

 - If said application(s) displayed the text of a PGP/MIME message so
 that you could read the message.

No.


 - If said application(s) could verify a message.  (The answer here is
 probably no, but it seems like at least one person said K-9 mail could
 verify PGP/MIME.)

No.


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Re: OpenPGP for Android

[Tiago Faria]

On Tue, 18 Jan 2011 07:35:12 +0100
Daniel Mang danielm...@googlemail.com wrote:

 It seems not very secure to put your private key on a mobile device,
 unless there is some way to encrypt the harddisk (in case the device
 is stolen or confiscated). Is there ?

There has been some discussion and development on LUKS in the Android.
Not sure what the current state is.

Some relevant links:

XDA-Developers thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=866131

Screenshot: http://i.imgur.com/K1K9i.jpg

HowTo:
https://androidvoid.wordpress.com/2009/09/30/android-encryption-using-cryptsetup-and-luks/

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Re: OpenPGP for Android

[Kosuke Kaizuka]

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On Sun Jan 16 2011 14:12:42 GMT+0900, Malte Gell wrote:
 In the Android Market there is APG. Has anyone tested it? Does it import keys 
 with subkeys? By the way, is there an app that encrypts SMS with APG?

Hi.

I have already tested APG 1.0.8 with Android 2.1 on Xperia SO-01B (X10
family in Japan).

APG...

1. can import keys with subkeys.
2. can not verify email signed by my self-signed key with
Enigmail+Thunderbird.
3. ignores the encoding (always uses iso-8859-1).
4. does not support CAMELLIA.
5. has no integration with gmail app on 2.1.

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OpenPGP for Android

[Malte Gell]

Hi there,

In the Android Market there is APG. Has anyone tested it? Does it import keys 
with subkeys? By the way, is there an app that encrypts SMS with APG?

Regardsa
Malte

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