[Goanet] NEWS: Seaside tilt from T-shirt to trident (for Vajpayee in Goa)
SEASIDE TILT FROM T-SHIRT TO TRIDENT FROM RADHIKA RAMASESHAN http://www.telegraphindia.com/ [The Telegraph, Kolkata] Panaji, April 13: Goa has proved to be a landmark in more ways than one for the BJP and Atal Bihari Vajpayee. In 1995, when the BJP held its first national executive here with its Hindutva tag intact, Vajpayee did something that stunned hardliners: he attended a dinner on the Kalangut beach in jeans and a T-shirt. The sartorial departure, it later emerged, was politically significant. At that time, the BJP was finding it difficult to wipe off the taint of the Babri masjid demolition. So Vajpayee wanted to convey the message that his party had its share of easy-going liberals who did not necessarily subscribe to the Hindi, Hindu, Hindustan slogan symbolised by the dhoti-kurta regimen. The 1995 executive was also important for its policy decisions. The BJP decided to strike strategic alliances wherever it could, keep its ideology flexible to woo secular allies, and consider projecting Vajpayee rather than L.K. Advani as its prime ministerial candidate. In 1999, when the BJP executive met here again, Vajpayee addressed a public rally mostly in English as a goodwill gesture to the Goans. The 2002 session will go down as an event where the Prime Minister wore only dhoti-kurta and addressed a public meeting in Sanskritised Hindi. But, most important, he spoke like a pracharak unmindful of the fact that 30 per cent of Goas population was Christian and was keenly following and reacting to the Gujarat violence as a silent protest march through Panaji today testified. BJP sources explained why Vajpayee had discarded his secular mask. The objective, they said, was as much to soften up criticism within the executive on the poll reverses as to tell the Sangh parivar that he was still one of them. The implicit message: the parivar should not ditch his party as it allegedly did in the recent elections. A discussion on the elections was to have been the main agenda of the executive. Sources said state-level leaders, as well as a section of Central bigwigs, had sharpened their knives to attack the government. But the emphasis would have been on Hindutva and how giving it up has cost the BJP its votes, said a senior member. If the Prime Minister continued to take the plea that he was bound by the National Democratic Alliance agenda, there were people ready to ask him why he went overboard on secularism from time to time with his Kumarakom musings and the tears he shed in the Ahmedabad relief camps. It was high time the Prime Minister told the party what his own stand on secularism was. The sources said the members were even prepared to suggest that if the NDA government had to be given up for the cause of Hindutva, so should it be. The drama over the resignation offer of Gujarat chief minister Narendra Modi and Vajpayees anti-Muslim remarks at yesterdays public rally were meant to pre-empt such arguments. The message from his speech is that the BJP is still a party with a difference, said Shivraj Chauhan, BJP youth wing chief and MP from Madhya Pradesh. Our core ideology is cultural nationalism. It has manifested itself in different ways Ayodhya, swadeshi, and now Gujarat. If an attempt was made to equate Godhra with what followed thereafter, it would have amounted to a betrayal of cultural nationalism. BJP vice-president Gopinath Munde said Vajpayees pro-Hindutva speech was a reaction to Congress chief Sonia Gandhis shrill rhetoric on secularism in Guwahati. Goa and Guwahati have to be seen in tandem. We have to keep Sonia in focus for our own political survival and also to keep our allies together and tell them that they cannot fight the Congress separately, the former Maharashtra chief minister said. His logic: the more high-pitched Sonias tone on secularism is, the more difficult it would be for the NDAs secular allies to match it. (ENDS) =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-W-E-B---S-I-T-E-=-=- To Subscribe/Unsubscribe from GoaNet | http://www.goacom.com/goanet == For (un)subscribing or for help, Contact: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Dont want so many e=mails? Join GoaNet-Digest instead ! =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Help support non-commercial projects in Goa by advertizing!! * * * * Your ad here !!
[Goanet] re: FN on Cecil Pinto's post
From: Frederick Noronha [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sun Apr 14, 2002 7:19 am [Let's assume the rest of Cecil Pinto's is funny (well written, no doubt) and penned without any urge to settle old scores and inter-website rivalry.] Dear Fred, There is nothing to assume about the rest of Cecil Pinto's post being funny. It IS, without question, a very funny post (minus the Vivian segment)! FN:[But I'd like to register my protest about the reference to Tariq Siddiqui. I guess even writing in a lighter vein does not offer a carte blanche to make bigoted insinuations about people based on accidents of birth. In the US, something like this might be called racism.] In the US, I submit that you would have to prove that the Dawood in Cecil's post is the identical one YOU are refering to, and NOT the guy who manufactures high quality shoes. [The media has been working hard at building up bias. Keep on posting, we need your voice on this forum. FN] I absolutely and unequivocally disagree that Cecil has made any 'religiously motivated bigoted statement' in his FAQ post. I agree 100% with Mr. Fernandes' statement. This contratu you guys are having, is not about ideas, it is something personal. I wish you guys would call each other and put an end to this. I believe that we can ALL work together. I sincerely do. good wishes jc possible inventor of the phrase JUST SAY NO TO CRACK!! welcomer of FLAMES -- From: Paganini Fernandes [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sun Apr 14, 2002 4:09 pm [I wonder which is greater, giving vent to one's emotions or exercising control! Let's work to build GOA together.] --- Date: Sat, 13 Apr 2002 17:05:12 +0530 From: Cecil Pinto [EMAIL PROTECTED] [Question: Who is Tariq Siddiqui ? Answer: Tariq Siddiqui is based in Dubai and is a henchman of Dawood. He is planning to change his name to Cat Stevens and then give his old name out on rent.] = The Goan Forum Website http://www.colaco.net/ = Recommended Goan Sites in Cyberspace Goa-World at http://www.goa-world.net The Goan Forum is at http://www.colaco.net __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Tax Center - online filing with TurboTax http://taxes.yahoo.com/ =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-W-E-B---S-I-T-E-=-=-= To Subscribe/Unsubscribe from GoaNet | http://www.goacom.com/goanet === For (un)subscribing or for help, Contact: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Dont want so many e=mails? Join GoaNet-Digest instead ! =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Help support non-commercial projects in Goa by advertizing!! * * * * Your ad here !!
[Goanet] Sad News of Great Tiatrist.
SAD NEWS OF GREAT TIATRIST. Sickness is a part of ones life, many times it comes and goes but sometimes it becomes deadly. Cancer is one such sickness which has no complete cure and when it is detected at the last stage it is become more deadly. The news of Dr. Rosario Rodrigues suffering from Cancer and been operated at Bombays Tata Memorial Hospital is very distressing. Let us pray for his recovery because Goa, Konkani Language, Konkani Culture Konkani Stage need him very much. It was he who revolutionized not only Khel Tiatr converting it into non-stop Konkani Shows but also Konkani Tiatr Stage by writing highly literate and highly intellectual dramas. Precisely because of this he is rightly called Shakesphere of Konkani Stage. He is the only Konkani Stage Artiste having doctorate to his credit. According to the latest information I received thru well known Actor/Director Comedian Ben Evangelisto, Dr. Rosario Rodrigues was just operated and doctors are trying to save his life. For his operation and other treatment lot of expenses are incurred and these expenses may increase gradually. As per the communication of Ben Evangelisto there is need for funds for this treatment. Hence it is our sincere plea to all the Konkani, Tiatr and Goa lovers spread all around the World to come to the rescue of Dr. Rosario and help him in this hour of need financially. As it is great hearted Tiatrists from Goa by keeping aside their differences joined together to organise two musical shows in Goa, one at Panjim and the other at Margao. Kudos to their right decision to help their needy colleague. We at Konkani Heritage Kuwait on receiving this news took a decision to do something. The President of Konkani Heritage Kuwait Mr. Fidelis Fernandes (Colva-Goa) and Vice President Mr. Joseph Desouza (Dharward) promised to donate Indian Rupees Ten Thousand on behalf of KHK. It is my sincere appeal to all the Goans and Konkani lovers spread all around the world to come forward and donate something ful na tor pakli- towards the expenses of medical treatment of Dr. Rosario. Those who are willing to donate may kindly remit their contribution to A/C No. 14461 of Rosario Lawrence Rodrigues at Margao Branch of Central Bank of India. While concluding, let me be on record that no Goa lover and no Konkani lover can forget the contribution of Dr. Rosario Rodrigues toward the development of Konkani Stage. Such a tiatrist should not be ignored. May God help him to recover from this deadly sickness. A. VERONICA FERNANDES, Kuwait. _ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-W-E-B---S-I-T-E-=-=-= To Subscribe/Unsubscribe from GoaNet | http://www.goacom.com/goanet === For (un)subscribing or for help, Contact: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Dont want so many e=mails? Join GoaNet-Digest instead ! =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Help support non-commercial projects in Goa by advertizing!! * * * * Your ad here !!
[Goanet] Articles on TGF re: the Catholic Church's recent troubles
3 new articles on the above topic posted on TGF's website at http://www.colaco.net your comments are invited The articles are as follows 1. The Catholic Church in a lurch! Breaking the Silence - ema and jose colaco 2. Reaction - Lt. Commander Harbans Singh 3. Dear Catholic laity, please don't bury your heads in the sand about this Pedophilia scandal - Bambino Martins BTW: TGF is working on a new story TWO HERITAGE BUILDINGS in Panjim are slated to be torn down. Will provide you with further details as soon as we have confirmed all elements of the story. Dr. Nandkumar Kamat, Fred Noronha, Cecil Lobo, Floriano Lobo Dr. Aureliano Lobocould we have some input please!! Thanks jc for TGF = Recommended Goan Sites in Cyberspace Goa-World at http://www.goa-world.net The Goan Forum is at http://www.colaco.net __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Tax Center - online filing with TurboTax http://taxes.yahoo.com/ =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-W-E-B---S-I-T-E-=-=-= To Subscribe/Unsubscribe from GoaNet | http://www.goacom.com/goanet === For (un)subscribing or for help, Contact: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Dont want so many e=mails? Join GoaNet-Digest instead ! =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Help support non-commercial projects in Goa by advertizing!! * * * * Your ad here !!
[Goanet] Catholic
To Goans Everywhere, As Ema has rightly said, Catholic means universal -- which the Church really is -- there are different rites -- Latin, Greek Orthodox, Russian Orthodox, Syro-Malabar, etc -- and now that most of our celebrations are in the vernacular -- the Latin rite is no longer Latin -- the first public sermon that the Apostles gave in Jerusalem, the people collected there heard and understood them in their own languages -- so obviously translation of all our rituals into the local language is very much God's plan. I personally therefore object to the term Roman Catholic (which was interoduced by the British to differentiate us from Anglicans -- I much prefer Christian which then associates me with Jesus Christ and not with any human organisation. Also being a Christian requires that we follow a Christian life -- i.e. LOVE YOUR NEIGHBOUR -- irrespective of CASTE, Creed and colour. Here's wishing that all of us are given God's grace to Love our Neighbour even on the internet -- squabbling and calling each other names is not being a good Christian. Cheers Aloysius D'Souza =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-W-E-B---S-I-T-E-=-=-= To Subscribe/Unsubscribe from GoaNet | http://www.goacom.com/goanet === For (un)subscribing or for help, Contact: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Dont want so many e=mails? Join GoaNet-Digest instead ! =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Help support non-commercial projects in Goa by advertizing!! * * * * Your ad here !!
[Goanet] Ek Vinod Kovita Rupan:'KAVLLO RODDTTA TEDNA'
KAVLLO RODDTTA TEDNA Fantoddear ghorar roddot tor kavllo Mhonntat, aiz jerul konn tori soiro et'lo Sot zata, soiro pavta, lagsilo na tor poisilo Xevttak, chitt tori gheun etlo 'postman' ghavantlo Kavllean, eka Xen'varak ghorar ghatlo boval Nhidonk dhivn na piddear suttiocho sokal Kavllea, udon voch re korench tum mogal Dusrea pavtt ailear xasvot (1) kortolom ghaieal Juneacho mhoino, pavsa adoll-modd suntil'lem Konn eklem poisil'lean pavsan bizon etlem pollelem Langim pavtta-pavtta taka pollovn kalliz korkorlem Xallent xiktana premi' pustokak matxea xirkovlelem Tacho vistid pavsan bizon angar bosla chitkon Zoglavnem marlem tedna dollea tiche ghele dipkon Godgodachea avazan mhojea golleak veng marli bivon Kavllea mhojea mama, oxoch sodanch ieo re roddon Bizlolea kopddea boldi khorpak tika poratlem Novem kalsanv-kumis addun tichea murean udoilem Tinem dollea pitpittaun dolleanche pitkulean bodbodlem Bhitorleo bi mustaiki bizloleo asat tanchem korchem khitem? Lino B. Dourado (Utord'dekar-Kuwait) (1) Permanent __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Tax Center - online filing with TurboTax http://taxes.yahoo.com/ =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-W-E-B---S-I-T-E-=-=-= To Subscribe/Unsubscribe from GoaNet | http://www.goacom.com/goanet === For (un)subscribing or for help, Contact: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Dont want so many e=mails? Join GoaNet-Digest instead ! =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Help support non-commercial projects in Goa by advertizing!! * * * * Your ad here !!
Re: [Goanet] Re: Asian Philosophy Conference, April 27, Saturday
In a message dated 04/13/2002 12:02:56 PM EST, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Sorry, no Christian political pressure or polemic is going to change the agenda here ;-) Aha! Yet Naik et al are hell bent on conveniently criticizing and washing their dirty public linen in the public about the Vatican -- philosopher heal thyself :( Some cannot see the plank in their eyes, yet point to the splinter in others. QED Pat de Sousa Maryland, USA PS: This confirms the warped mind theory among some in academia. =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-W-E-B---S-I-T-E-=-=-= To Subscribe/Unsubscribe from GoaNet | http://www.goacom.com/goanet === For (un)subscribing or for help, Contact: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Dont want so many e=mails? Join GoaNet-Digest instead ! =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Help support non-commercial projects in Goa by advertizing!! * * * * Your ad here !!
goanet-digest V1 #3831
goanet-digest Sunday, April 14 2002 Volume 01 : Number 3831 - In this issue: [Goanet] Articles on TGF re: the Catholic Church's recent troubles [Goanet] My dear Vivian.in fairness to Cecil Uly [Goanet] CONSCIENTIOUS CANDIDATES. [Goanet] Catholic [Goanet] Ek Vinod Kovita Rupan:'KAVLLO RODDTTA TEDNA' Re: [Goanet] Re: Asian Philosophy Conference, April 27, Saturday [Goanet] 15 APR: GOACOM NEWS CLIPPINGS See end of digest for information on subscribing/unsusbcribing. -- Date: Sun, 14 Apr 2002 14:16:10 -0700 (PDT) From: The Goan Forum [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Goanet] Articles on TGF re: the Catholic Church's recent troubles 3 new articles on the above topic posted on TGF's website at http://www.colaco.net your comments are invited The articles are as follows 1. The Catholic Church in a lurch! Breaking the Silence - ema and jose colaco 2. Reaction - Lt. Commander Harbans Singh 3. Dear Catholic laity, please don't bury your heads in the sand about this Pedophilia scandal - Bambino Martins BTW: TGF is working on a new story TWO HERITAGE BUILDINGS in Panjim are slated to be torn down. Will provide you with further details as soon as we have confirmed all elements of the story. Dr. Nandkumar Kamat, Fred Noronha, Cecil Lobo, Floriano Lobo Dr. Aureliano Lobocould we have some input please!! Thanks jc for TGF = Recommended Goan Sites in Cyberspace Goa-World at http://www.goa-world.net The Goan Forum is at http://www.colaco.net __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Tax Center - online filing with TurboTax http://taxes.yahoo.com/ -- Date: Sun, 14 Apr 2002 20:05:26 -0700 (PDT) From: The Goan Forum [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Goanet] My dear Vivian.in fairness to Cecil Uly Dear all, In fairness to Cecil Uly, I will share an email I sent to Viviana Coelho 12 hours ago jc for TGF - --- viviana [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [Jose, you and Ema are .. DELETED AS IS PRIVATE] My dear Vivian, Ema was holding for me while I had an absolutely busy life with sick kiddies. I read her posts late last pm. For a normally quiet person, does she come across sharp or what?. Ema noted this am how very few Goans, including women, had the appropriateness to question Cecil out in the open. She says that she thought about it for a wee bit and decided to DO THE RIGHT THING. I don't think that it was anything extraordinary. We have done it the past. We will do it again. No need to thank us for it. We do note however, the silence of our friends when we are attacked personally for our views! Talking about friendsI hope you know that Cecil and I are good friends. That did not stop Ema from saying what she had to say. I note now this unfortunate comment by Marlon on Uly. Let me see how Viviana reacts to that! ratherif she reacts to it at all! good wishes jc From: Marlon Menezes [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sat Apr 13, 2002 8:52 am Subject: Re: [Goanet] Unofficial GoaNet FAQ - Initial draft Please note that the real reason Ulysses quit the goanet admin team was because of his preference for individuals of the same gender. While there is nothing wrong with this, it was nonetheless a violation of the above guidline. Must be something to do with people having greek names :) = The Goan Forum Website http://www.colaco.net/ = Recommended Goan Sites in Cyberspace Goa-World at http://www.goa-world.net The Goan Forum is at http://www.colaco.net __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Tax Center - online filing with TurboTax http://taxes.yahoo.com/ -- Date: Mon, 15 Apr 2002 09:38:44 +0530 From: Goa Desc [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Goanet] CONSCIENTIOUS CANDIDATES. * Documented by Goa Desc Documentation Service circulated by Goa Civic Consumer Action Network (GOA CAN)[EMAIL PROTECTED] * - --- CONSCIENTIOUS CANDIDATES. - --- When the Liberation of Goa from the clutches of the Portuguese was successfully achieved and the colonialists were booted out, the Goans heaved a sigh. This was the moment of getting out of the darkest tunnel and stepping into the sunshine, the period ahead promising a deserving freedom with dignity as human beings. As a reward of the freedom the late Jawaharlal Nehru, the then prime minister of India promised Goans to safeguard our distinct identity, our determination and our way of life. Alas, Nehru is no more, now
