[Goanet-news]02 JAN 2004: GOACOM DAILY NEWS CLIPPINGS
Goanet next meets in Goa on Jan 7 at 4 pm. Meeting point: Kala Academy Canteen, Panjim. Goanet founder Herman Carneiro will be there. See you too! -- GOACOM DAILY NEWS CLIPPINGS 02 January 2004 STERILISERS FOR HAIR-CUTTING SALOONS: The use of sterilizers will be made mandatory from this year in all hair-cutting saloons and beauty parlours in the State on account of the rise of AIDS cases in the State. As per the figures available from the Goa State AIDS Control Society, in all 331 persons tested positive for AIDS till September 2003 while 6212 persons have been already affected by HIV. (GT) MEDIA SHOULD KEEP A LEASH ON POLITICIANS: Seduction was a technique adopted by those in power to keep journalists on leash, according to Tehelka editor-in-chief Tarun Tejpal. Tejpal delivered a talk on 'Media, Democracy and Citizenship: Challenges before India' at the Caritas Hall in Panaji yesterday. He said that when seduction technique involving offering of junkets, houses, cars and other lucrative things fails, terror was used to intimidate media. He predicted that the role of the media in future will be to keep a leash on power since the rule of law and individual rights were being eroded in the country. (GT) PAY PARKING FLOPS IN MARGAO: Margao Municipal Council created chaos on the first day of the year when they intended to introduce pay parking in its jurisdiction. No sign boards, chits have not been stamped, no identity cards have been provided to those appointed to collect the fees, areas benefiting the businessmen have not been identified as pay parking areas. MMC plans to earn a revenue of Rs.5.25 lakh for allotting the pay parking. The charge for two-wheeler for every two hours is Rs.2 and for four-wheeler Rs.5. (GT) PRISON MINISTRY BRINGS SMILES: All prisoners in the State--in Aguada, lock-up in Mapusa, Panaji, Margao and Vasco--received cards wishing them on the occasion of Christmas and New Year. Thanks to the efforts and initiative of the Prison Ministry under the Goa Archdiocese, the prisoners in Goa and the staff as well received gifts and sweets, and the message of love on the occasion of Christmas. (GT) KTC BUMPER PRIZE DRAW: The draw for the bumper prize for 2120 passengers, who traveled by KTC Volvo buses, was held at the KTC office. The winner for the first draw is Rajesh B Tekchandani of Thane-Maharashtra. The prize carries a free return ticket for two on either Goa to Mumbai or Panaji to Shirdi routes, plus a two-day stay in GTDC hotels anywhere in Goa. The KTC will announce one bumper prize every month. (GT) DRUNK TOURIST RUNS OVER COP: A drunken tourist (Shailesh Raikar of Hubli) ran over a traffic police-man (head constable Ramakant Shetye), who was discharging his duties at the tourist boat jetty o New Year's Eve. (GT) MINING THREATENS SELAULIM PROJECT: An old mining concession being worked at Curdi in the catchment area of Selaulim dam continues to be a threat to the future of Rs.160-crore irrigation project. Though a major chunk of the work was completed and water started flowing as far back as the late eighties, the lease is still being operated on the southern end of the vast catchment area in the foothills below the verdant and scenic Sahyadri range. (GT) NGO FOR CAP ON BARS: South Goa Public Interest Action Group has urged the State government to order a ban on opening of new bars which take licences as bar and restaurants but sell only liquor. The Margao-based NGO has also urged for strict implementation of the Goa Excise Duty Act Rules, 1964, to curb the spread of the malaise of alcoholism among the youth. (GT) CITY PARKS COME ALIVE: Parks in the city have been reformed. From hubs of anti-social activities to being citizen-oriented. City parks, which were until recently neglected, have been redone by the same Corporation of City of Panaji, which is often referred to as 'all money and no work'. Panaji can now rightly boast of being the only 'City of parks' in the State with at least six of them stretching legs within three kilometers. (GT) TALEIGAO PANCHAYAT POLLS: The elections to the newly created Taleigao panchayat will be held on 14 March this year. The panchayat comprises of 11 wards. The panchayat came into existence from 1 April 2003. (GT) UNKNOWN CALLER THREATENS MICKKY: Colva police registered and offence against an unknown person for threatening to kill Tourism Minister Mickky Pacheco. Liliya Rodrigues, personal assistant to Pacheco, has lodged a complaint with the police stating that an unknown person called the minister on his mobile and using filthy language threatened to kill him. (GT) BOLLYWOOD STARS THRONG GOA: Lime many other tourists, filmstars Vivek Oberoi, Amitabh Bachchan, Raveena Tandon, Urmila Matondkar, Sohail Khan, Salman Khan, Aishwarya Rai, Kareena Kapoor, Sunil Shetye and others were in Goa to make merry on the eve of New Year 2004. (GT) S P O R T S GOAN SAILORS STEER INDIA-B PAST PAK: Both the India teams
[Goanet]02 JAN 2004: GOACOM DAILY NEWS CLIPPINGS
Goanet next meets in Goa: January 7, 4 pm (meeting point: Kala Academy canteen). Goanet founder Herman Carneiro will be there. See you there! -- GOACOM DAILY NEWS CLIPPINGS 02 January 2004 STERILISERS FOR HAIR-CUTTING SALOONS: The use of sterilizers will be made mandatory from this year in all hair-cutting saloons and beauty parlours in the State on account of the rise of AIDS cases in the State. As per the figures available from the Goa State AIDS Control Society, in all 331 persons tested positive for AIDS till September 2003 while 6212 persons have been already affected by HIV. (GT) MEDIA SHOULD KEEP A LEASH ON POLITICIANS: Seduction was a technique adopted by those in power to keep journalists on leash, according to Tehelka editor-in-chief Tarun Tejpal. Tejpal delivered a talk on 'Media, Democracy and Citizenship: Challenges before India' at the Caritas Hall in Panaji yesterday. He said that when seduction technique involving offering of junkets, houses, cars and other lucrative things fails, terror was used to intimidate media. He predicted that the role of the media in future will be to keep a leash on power since the rule of law and individual rights were being eroded in the country. (GT) PAY PARKING FLOPS IN MARGAO: Margao Municipal Council created chaos on the first day of the year when they intended to introduce pay parking in its jurisdiction. No sign boards, chits have not been stamped, no identity cards have been provided to those appointed to collect the fees, areas benefiting the businessmen have not been identified as pay parking areas. MMC plans to earn a revenue of Rs.5.25 lakh for allotting the pay parking. The charge for two-wheeler for every two hours is Rs.2 and for four-wheeler Rs.5. (GT) PRISON MINISTRY BRINGS SMILES: All prisoners in the State--in Aguada, lock-up in Mapusa, Panaji, Margao and Vasco--received cards wishing them on the occasion of Christmas and New Year. Thanks to the efforts and initiative of the Prison Ministry under the Goa Archdiocese, the prisoners in Goa and the staff as well received gifts and sweets, and the message of love on the occasion of Christmas. (GT) KTC BUMPER PRIZE DRAW: The draw for the bumper prize for 2120 passengers, who traveled by KTC Volvo buses, was held at the KTC office. The winner for the first draw is Rajesh B Tekchandani of Thane-Maharashtra. The prize carries a free return ticket for two on either Goa to Mumbai or Panaji to Shirdi routes, plus a two-day stay in GTDC hotels anywhere in Goa. The KTC will announce one bumper prize every month. (GT) DRUNK TOURIST RUNS OVER COP: A drunken tourist (Shailesh Raikar of Hubli) ran over a traffic police-man (head constable Ramakant Shetye), who was discharging his duties at the tourist boat jetty o New Year's Eve. (GT) MINING THREATENS SELAULIM PROJECT: An old mining concession being worked at Curdi in the catchment area of Selaulim dam continues to be a threat to the future of Rs.160-crore irrigation project. Though a major chunk of the work was completed and water started flowing as far back as the late eighties, the lease is still being operated on the southern end of the vast catchment area in the foothills below the verdant and scenic Sahyadri range. (GT) NGO FOR CAP ON BARS: South Goa Public Interest Action Group has urged the State government to order a ban on opening of new bars which take licences as bar and restaurants but sell only liquor. The Margao-based NGO has also urged for strict implementation of the Goa Excise Duty Act Rules, 1964, to curb the spread of the malaise of alcoholism among the youth. (GT) CITY PARKS COME ALIVE: Parks in the city have been reformed. From hubs of anti-social activities to being citizen-oriented. City parks, which were until recently neglected, have been redone by the same Corporation of City of Panaji, which is often referred to as 'all money and no work'. Panaji can now rightly boast of being the only 'City of parks' in the State with at least six of them stretching legs within three kilometers. (GT) TALEIGAO PANCHAYAT POLLS: The elections to the newly created Taleigao panchayat will be held on 14 March this year. The panchayat comprises of 11 wards. The panchayat came into existence from 1 April 2003. (GT) UNKNOWN CALLER THREATENS MICKKY: Colva police registered and offence against an unknown person for threatening to kill Tourism Minister Mickky Pacheco. Liliya Rodrigues, personal assistant to Pacheco, has lodged a complaint with the police stating that an unknown person called the minister on his mobile and using filthy language threatened to kill him. (GT) BOLLYWOOD STARS THRONG GOA: Lime many other tourists, filmstars Vivek Oberoi, Amitabh Bachchan, Raveena Tandon, Urmila Matondkar, Sohail Khan, Salman Khan, Aishwarya Rai, Kareena Kapoor, Sunil Shetye and others were in Goa to make merry on the eve of New Year 2004. (GT) S P O R T S GOAN SAILORS STEER INDIA-B PAST PAK: Both the India teams qualified
[Goanet]Goan ingenuity: Well Dressed Chicks.
Goanet next meets in Goa: January 7, 4 pm (meeting point: Kala Academy canteen). Goanet founder Herman Carneiro will be there. See you there! -- Dear Dr.Gilbert, It is rather funny that they pluck all the feathers off a broiler and call it a dressed chicken. It is now becoming fashionable for the fairer gender to take unfair advantage of the male foibles by dressing likewise. It is a moot point as to why only humans need to wear clothes while nature has provided other animals according to their needs! It is not without reason that Mark Twain said, Man is the only animal that blushes...or needs to. Traffic Stoppers ENTRY PROHIBITED . Signs of our times! In the meanwhile, it is recommended that two wheeler riders wear crash helmets, the four wheeler drivers wear seat belts and to prohibit pedestrians altogether as they do not pay road tax or parking fee or buy petrol/diesel or. Viva Goa. Miguel Original message From: Gilbert Lawrence [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sub: Goan Ingenuity: Satyabhama Bilva: Jaast do saamthing abaaat these crazy bhaile drivers of motor anim scooters anim rickshaws! Next day, Capitaum Promod Budkuley had PWD - Public Works Department -workers go out and erect a sign that said, SLOW - SCHOOL CROSSING Capitaum Promod Budkuley sent PWD workers again ani put another sign: SLOW: CHILDREN AT PLAY Tujem sign are doing naething at aaall. Can Satyabhama Vernekar put up his own sign? He was startled at the sign that was put up: NUDIST COLONY: SLOW DOWN anim take a look at the kombdis! Regards, GL --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.543 / Virus Database: 337 - Release Date: 11/22/2003 ## # Send submissions for Goanet to [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # PLEASE remember to stay on-topic (related to Goa), and avoid top-posts # # More details on Goanet at http://joingoanet.shorturl.com/ # # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ##
[Goanet]Common Ward names
Goanet next meets in Goa: January 7, 4 pm (meeting point: Kala Academy canteen). Goanet founder Herman Carneiro will be there. See you there! -- Dear Cecil, Vaddo named after a surname[ Naikavaddo,Prabhuvaddo,Cruz vaddo] or caste [ Bamonvaddo,Marvaddo, Kumbarvaddo] or origin [ Gaokarvaddo,guansavaddo,bhailo vaddo] or occurance[ Pornovaddo, Auchit vaddo] or location [Khalcho vaddo,voilo vaddo,moddhlo vaddo] are common almost all over Goa. We have the unique classification based on the occurence of the Screw Pine [Pandanus spp] or kegdi or antho plant. Siquerim in Mayem-Vainguinim and Candoilim,Naquerim in Quepem, Conquerim in Sanguem, Kerim[ or Querim] in Ponda and Sattari are the example that come to my mind. [ Incidentally, the antho or 'bondd' of the Kegdi is said to be the origin of Mapusa's rakhondar Bondgueshwar or Bodgueshwar, whose zatra is on 6 january.] Maina in Curtorim, Betim, Siolim and Bicholim [near Kudne]are wet spots with plenty of natural springs and self-irrigated fields. There is a Navelim in Margao and in Bicholim[ near Kudne]. Do not know whether it is connected to a boat [Nau, nav] or to the Kannada version Nave halli[ new village]. Velim and Navelim may also be associated with a river beach[ Veler] Na velim. There is a Chicalim near Vasco and another near Camurlim in Bardez. There is a maddel near Karaswada and near Margao There is an Altinho in Panaji and in Mapusa [Feira Alta] while Margao has Aquem Alto. The word 'aquem' may also be associated with water. There is a Vaiguinim in Dona Paula[near Cidade de Goa] and at Mayem-Bicholim and a Baiguinim near Ribandar [ Rai bunder]and a Canaguinim in Quepem. What 'guinim' means, I do not know. The Santacruz vaddo of Bondir was originally a 'bunder' where the sail boats [pathmari] used to dock before the khazans were reclaimed from the Mandovi. There is enough scope to get a Ph.D. for research on this subject. Perhaps other netters can add names and the one who compiles them all applies to the Goa University for a Ph.D. provided s/he has passed M.A./ M.Sc. earlier. Warm regards, Miguel Date: Wed, 31 Dec 2003 19:22:09 +0530 From: Cecil Pinto [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Goanet]Common ward names in Goan villages And many villages have a Gaunsavaddo where most of the Gaunkars of the village originate from. Same with Bammonvaddo. But what about Quitula, Bhatlem, Maddel and similar ward names that are quite common? Would appreciate if anyone who knows a rare ward name, that exists in at least TWO villages, would post the same. I can then compile a list and approach some experts for the Origins and Meanings of these ward names. This is part of a larger study Eng. Jose Lourenco (of Amazing Goa fame) and myself are undertaking on the evolution, and stratification of wards, within Goan villages through history. Cecil == --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.543 / Virus Database: 337 - Release Date: 11/22/2003 ## # Send submissions for Goanet to [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # PLEASE remember to stay on-topic (related to Goa), and avoid top-posts # # More details on Goanet at http://joingoanet.shorturl.com/ # # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ##
Re: [Goanet] Gomant Vishwa Sammelan
Goanet next meets in Goa: January 7, 4 pm (meeting point: Kala Academy canteen). Goanet founder Herman Carneiro will be there. See you there! -- Happy New Year. It was nice meeting a few Goanetters in flesh and blood recently. A lot of press reports have been published recently, but not one of them mentions that persons who are not registered as delegates for the GVS can participate in one or more of the dedicated sessions between the inaugural and the valedictory functions. I think this needs to be clarified. Also a few persons who could enrich the discussion could be invited on phone or email for specific sessions. Warm regards, Miguel original message. Date: Wed, 31 Dec 2003 17:55:31 +0530 From: Floriano [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Goanet]Re: Gomant Vishwa Sammelan Dear Tony, Thank you for the clarification. I wish you and the GWS all the very best. I do have my own reservations but I am not against the Samelan. It must continue and foster confidence in NRIs to take Goa places where it deserves. Floriano --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.543 / Virus Database: 337 - Release Date: 11/22/2003 ## # Send submissions for Goanet to [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # PLEASE remember to stay on-topic (related to Goa), and avoid top-posts # # More details on Goanet at http://joingoanet.shorturl.com/ # # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ##
[Goanet]Goan surnames
Goanet next meets in Goa: January 7, 4 pm (meeting point: Kala Academy canteen). Goanet founder Herman Carneiro will be there. See you there! -- When and why did Lourenço become Lawrence? Is it one of those cases I had mentioned earlier of Goans trying to pass off as anglo-indians to gain jobs in public services in British India? Are we now seeing a home-coming? I had mentioned Couto / Coutinho becoming Coutts, Dias becoming Days, etc. There are Lobow in Madras. They were Lobo originally Lobo. Teotonio R. de Souza From: Gilbert Lawrence [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thu, 1 Jan 2004 08:20:19 -0500 Subject: [Goanet]Surnames Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Surnames Happy New Year to all Goenkars and Goanetters. I have not been following this thread much. I did come across a question to me to be about adding Lawrence to the List of Goan surnames that I surmised is being done. Please by all means add Lawrence (my birth certificate) or Lourenco (my father's birth certificate) to the list. ## # Send submissions for Goanet to [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # PLEASE remember to stay on-topic (related to Goa), and avoid top-posts # # More details on Goanet at http://joingoanet.shorturl.com/ # # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ##
RE: [Goanet]Surnames
Goanet next meets in Goa: January 7, 4 pm (meeting point: Kala Academy canteen). Goanet founder Herman Carneiro will be there. See you there! -- From: Gilbert Lawrence [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Gilbert, Borem Novem Voros sogleank tumcam. By the way, for my personal directory, are you Lourenco of Assolna (Agapito, etc.)? or Margao, the Chek Cheks)? Alfred To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Goanet]Surnames Date: Thu, 1 Jan 2004 08:20:19 -0500 . I have not been following this thread much. I did come across a question to me to be about adding Lawrence to the List of Goan surnames that I surmised is being done. Please by all means add Lawrence (my birth certificate) or Lourenco (my father's birth certificate) to the list. _ STOP MORE SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail ## # Send submissions for Goanet to [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # PLEASE remember to stay on-topic (related to Goa), and avoid top-posts # # More details on Goanet at http://joingoanet.shorturl.com/ # # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ##
[Goanet]learning posts
Goanet next meets in Goa: January 7, 4 pm (meeting point: Kala Academy canteen). Goanet founder Herman Carneiro will be there. See you there! -- From: George Pinto [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Goan Chief Guest speeches and learning posts Hi George: Thanks for explaining to me your stand. Here are my responses to your comments. The readers of Goanet can now judge for themselves. Is not this the idea of a discussion site? Gilbert. George: Filomena Giese can speak for herself, but I read her post very differently than you did. After many years in Goan cyberspace, there is a lot of hot air here and very little action. Filomena's comment reflects the feelings of many. Response: If one wants to respond to any post, take the time to write or explain your difference of views. Then one and (others) know if the response makes sense and which approach to follow. The original author gets some feedback (which is good). He / She also knows where the criticism is intellectual or is it some ignoramus shooting off with a one liner. I also grew up in Bombay (now Mumbai) and went to Goan Catholic functions with chief guests. I am trying to recall one project or idea presented which benefited Goa and Goans and cannot think of any. Response: Aldona association of Bombay had financial scholarships and prizes for Aldona students. Bombay Catholic gymkhana was a flourishing club of Goan Catholics, which had many cultural events. The St. Luke's medical guild was very active. George I could go on and on... With all due respect to you the learning posts have told us of the pre-eminence of Goan community in their environs more than three decade gone by. Can you write a similar post of major contribution any Goan Diaspora community in the last decade? How does a community arise? Does not every project or idea need a leader? And how does that leader present his / her ideas to the community? I think many of the speeches were boring (I am being polite here). Hence, I would prefer to see posts which describe CONCRETE projects and ideas which have been implemented and which can be duplicated successfully where Goans reside. Response: That is precisely my point. You will get the ideas and project off the ground if you invite these Goans as your guests. These Goans have made a success and are recognized by everybody else except by other smart Goans. Regarding the Francis Xavier celebration in New York, can you provide a list of proposals or projects or ideas at the event which actually benefited Goans? Response: The project pushed at this event was the Heart Center in Goa. You can tell us about the success of this project because the donations for this project are channeled through Goa Sudharop. From your question are we to suppose otherwise? Or was it another mindless church feast? Response: After you provide the above answer, we will know if this was another mindless church feast. a.k.a. tamasha with scotch, sorpatel and susegad talk. In all seriousness I hope you can give us an update on the Cardiac Center in Goa for which quite a lot of money has been collected. You will no doubt know that our so-called Goans do not take the time to have a Blessed Vaz or Fr. Agnelo celebration (Goans), but have time for European saints. Response: Would it not be nice for this opinion to be presented to the Goan community in New York, San Francisco, Toronto etc by someone who is respected in his community and can provide some leadership, face some criticism and bring some of these very changes about? While I am critical of these events, I mean no disrespect to the chief guest Ralph D'Souza (my mom's cousin), Fr. Albert Castellino (also my mom's cousin) and Fr. Basilio (a friend). I agree with Ralph that Goans have an obligation to Goa. Response: You know these outstanding people because they are your relatives. Take the time to know those outstanding Goans that are not your relatives. I am glad to know that you agree with chief guest... perhaps because he pushed your project. Final Thoughts: What is the down-side risks to having chief guests? Unless the organizer does not want to share the microphone with any other Goan. Regards, GL, NY ## # Send submissions for Goanet to [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # PLEASE remember to stay on-topic (related to Goa), and avoid top-posts # # More details on Goanet at http://joingoanet.shorturl.com/ # # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ##
Re: [Goanet]Surnames
Goanet next meets in Goa: January 7, 4 pm (meeting point: Kala Academy canteen). Goanet founder Herman Carneiro will be there. See you there! -- Just check the telephone directory... and you'll find most of them. FN -- Frederick Noronha: http://www.fredericknoronha.net Ph 0091.832.2409490 Freelance Journalist : http://www.bytesforall.org Ph 0091.832.2409783 http://fredericknoronha.blogware.comCell 0 9822 122436 ## # Send submissions for Goanet to [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # PLEASE remember to stay on-topic (related to Goa), and avoid top-posts # # More details on Goanet at http://joingoanet.shorturl.com/ # # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ##
[Goanet]To anyone in the TORONTO area next week!!
Goanet next meets in Goa: January 7, 4 pm (meeting point: Kala Academy canteen). Goanet founder Herman Carneiro will be there. See you there! -- Dear Friends and fellow Goenkars, I hope you all had a great Christmas and let's all have a good New Year. I have a notice for our Goanet members in Toronto Canada: I will be performing a solo show in downtown Toronto next week on January 7th (Wednesday) at a club called The B-Side (129 Peter St. - http://www.the-bside.com ). I go on at 9:00PM SHARP. If you want to hear some of my music, I have some MP3's up at http://www.nealpinto.com (including a new song I just recorded). So please come on down if you can and bring friends. This is my first time in Toronto since I was about 3 years old (I'm from Winnipeg) so I hope to meet some of you and have a good time. It would be great to have your support. Hope to see you there!! Neal Pinto [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.nealpinto.com ## # Send submissions for Goanet to [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # PLEASE remember to stay on-topic (related to Goa), and avoid top-posts # # More details on Goanet at http://joingoanet.shorturl.com/ # # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ##
[Goanet]NRI/NRG ani GOMANT VISHWA SAMMELAN
Goanet next meets in Goa: January 7, 4 pm (meeting point: Kala Academy canteen). Goanet founder Herman Carneiro will be there. See you there! -- NRI/NRG ani GOMANT VISHWA SAMMELAN Response: The NRI meet of 700 delegates is already a success. Remember these are 700 vacationers and their families (2-4 persons per delegate) that would not have come to Goa January 3-5. Many will stay for 1-4 weeks. Post New Year is a comparatively slow travel time as most travelers have completed their Christmas and New Year journeys. Someone is Goa is thinking smart. :=) OK the government is spending money to host this GOMANT VISHWA SAMMELAN event. In macro-economic terms, this Goan money is going into the pocket of Goans themselves (and then into general circulation). The visiting NRI is bringing in new money into the Goan economy. Even if the whole NRI / NRG meeting is a tamasha which is the whole idea, Goa (tourism) is already a winner. In addition it has promoted Goa as a great tourist destination. It is estimated that on average a NRI visitor spends (on the hotel, restaurant meals, travel, sightseeing, gifts) about US $100 per day. That is Rs. 30,000 per tourist family per day into the Goan economy. And not even a Khorro Niz Goenkar should cry about that. :=)) Regards, GL, NY From: Miguel Braganza [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Goanet] NRIs should. From: airesrod [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote.. Subject: NRIs SHOULD BOYCOTT GOMANT VISHWA SAMMELAN NRIs should consider boycotting the stage-managed and extravagant three-day Gomant Vishwa Sammelan to be held at Kala Academy from 3rd to 5th January 2004. Comment: Consider and reject the idea of boycotting. Be present and make the difference. ## # Send submissions for Goanet to [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # PLEASE remember to stay on-topic (related to Goa), and avoid top-posts # # More details on Goanet at http://joingoanet.shorturl.com/ # # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ##
[Goanet-news]01 JAN 2004: GOACOM DAILY NEWS CLIPPINGS
Goanet next meets in Goa on Jan 7 at 4 pm. Meeting point: Kala Academy Canteen, Panjim. Goanet founder Herman Carneiro will be there. See you too! -- GOACOM DAILY NEWS CLIPPINGS 01 January 2004 We wish all GoaNetters A Very Happy and Prosperous NEW YEAR 2004 DANCES, FIREWORKS USHER IN NEW YEAR: Traditional dances, parties, mid-night Church services and dazzling firework displays marked the celebrations which were joined in by thousands of tourists to usher in the New Year. The coastal belt was resounding with music till the wee hours of the day as parties were organised on the beach front by hotels and individuals to ring in the New Year. (H) PANJIM ABLAZE: Walking or driving in Panjim is quite different these days with various buildings being decorated with colourful lights through the City Corporation's Panjim Ablaze programme. Panjim Ablaze was conceived by Armando Gonsalves [EMAIL PROTECTED] and other enthusiastic folk to brighten up their city for the Christmas-New Year season. Armando was kind enough to drive us along the city roads to show the various buildings, the Boca de Vaca spring and Bertaires house at Altinho, accompanied by wellknown journalist Bemvinda Collaco, a bit of whose voice is heard on the small video clip which we have included in this issue. Check at: http://www.goacom.com/goanow/newyear/ablaze.htm BISHOP, GUV, CM GREET GOANS: Archbishop Patriarch Raul Gonsalves together with Auxiliary Bishop Filipe Neri Ferrao wishes everyone a pleasant and promising New Year 2004. Meanwhile, Governor Kidar Nath Sahani and Chief Minister Manohar Parrikar have also extended warm greetings to the people of Goa on the occasion of the New Year. (H) ROAD RAGE IN COASTAL AREAS: Confusion continues to reign along the northern coastal belt as police stations struggle to cope with the huge inflow of tourists and revelers. The Calangute and Candolim roads appeared to be beyond the scope of the law even as the rich and famous sped by in their Mercedes Benz cars competing with the jeeps driven by their not-so-well-to-do countrymen. Domestic and foreign tourists were seen speeding by on two-wheelers seemingly unmindful of the danger they were causing to themselves and to other motorists. A CARAVAN IN UK, A HOUSE IN GOA: According to a report in the UK-based Sunday Times, purchasing houses in Goa and other parts of India has become a lucrative option for foreigners. At the end of the day it's no more expensive than a caravan in Bridlington, says Jan Turner, a public-relations director, quoted in the Times report. Jan and husband Robert have just bought a new three-bedroom flat in Goa. Spurred on by the glut of holiday-home programmes and cheaper and more regular long-haul flights, Britons are widening their horizons when it comes to buying abroad. (H) RAPE OF UK SCRIBE: 2 ACQUITTED: Two persons charged for raping a journalist from United Kingdom were acquitted by the additional sessions court in Margao on December 31. (GT). MAN FLINGS BOY INTO A WELL: Suleman Shaikh (35), a resident of Navelim, was arrested for flinging a boy into a well recently. The accused irked by children playing cricket, caught hold of the 11-year-old boy, Irappa, and flung him into a well. (NT) GOA YEARNS FOR MORE TOURISTS: Even as an estimated 1.25 lakh tourists-both foreign and domestic-descended on the State to ring in the New Year, Goa Tourism has resolved to launch a concerted effort to ensure that 2004 will be a successful year. Tourism Director N Suryanarayana said that for the first time all government department would work in the tandem to ensure that Goa is high on the list of the world's favourite tourism destinations. During 2003 more than 20 lakh tourists visited Goa during the year, a significant increase from 2002's 16 lakh arrivals. We expect arrivals to increase by at least 30 per cent during 2004 because of the Exposition and the IFFI, Suryanarayana said. (GT) PETROL, DIESEL PRICES UP: The New Year will witness a record high in prices of petrol and diesel as consumers will have to shell out Re.1 to Rs.1.20 more for a litre of the two fuels from January 1. HELMETS FOR TWO-WHEELER RIDERS: Though there is stoic silence over effective implementation of compulsory helmet rule for two-wheeler riders from today, the government withdrawing the exemption granted in MV Rules last year makes it imperative for the law enforcing machinery to implement the Motor Vehicle Act, 1998. (NT) CENTRAL BANK TO FINANCE TOURISM: There is ample scope for tourism and Central Bank is keen to finance this sector as well in Goa, said General Manager MB Khurjekar while addressing a press conference at the Verna branch. The bank has 22 branches in Goa with total deposits of around Rs.390 lakh and advances of Rs.54 lakh. (GT) GU'S INACTION FLAYED: The Goa Environment and Ecology Trust has strongly condemned Goa University authorities for not seeking the arrest of the students responsible for
[Goanet]01 JAN 2004: GOACOM DAILY NEWS CLIPPINGS
Goanet next meets in Goa: January 7, 4 pm (meeting point: Kala Academy canteen). Goanet founder Herman Carneiro will be there. See you there! -- GOACOM DAILY NEWS CLIPPINGS 01 January 2004 We wish all GoaNetters A Very Happy and Prosperous NEW YEAR 2004 DANCES, FIREWORKS USHER IN NEW YEAR: Traditional dances, parties, mid-night Church services and dazzling firework displays marked the celebrations which were joined in by thousands of tourists to usher in the New Year. The coastal belt was resounding with music till the wee hours of the day as parties were organised on the beach front by hotels and individuals to ring in the New Year. (H) PANJIM ABLAZE: Walking or driving in Panjim is quite different these days with various buildings being decorated with colourful lights through the City Corporation's Panjim Ablaze programme. Panjim Ablaze was conceived by Armando Gonsalves [EMAIL PROTECTED] and other enthusiastic folk to brighten up their city for the Christmas-New Year season. Armando was kind enough to drive us along the city roads to show the various buildings, the Boca de Vaca spring and Bertaires house at Altinho, accompanied by wellknown journalist Bemvinda Collaco, a bit of whose voice is heard on the small video clip which we have included in this issue. Check at: http://www.goacom.com/goanow/newyear/ablaze.htm BISHOP, GUV, CM GREET GOANS: Archbishop Patriarch Raul Gonsalves together with Auxiliary Bishop Filipe Neri Ferrao wishes everyone a pleasant and promising New Year 2004. Meanwhile, Governor Kidar Nath Sahani and Chief Minister Manohar Parrikar have also extended warm greetings to the people of Goa on the occasion of the New Year. (H) ROAD RAGE IN COASTAL AREAS: Confusion continues to reign along the northern coastal belt as police stations struggle to cope with the huge inflow of tourists and revelers. The Calangute and Candolim roads appeared to be beyond the scope of the law even as the rich and famous sped by in their Mercedes Benz cars competing with the jeeps driven by their not-so-well-to-do countrymen. Domestic and foreign tourists were seen speeding by on two-wheelers seemingly unmindful of the danger they were causing to themselves and to other motorists. A CARAVAN IN UK, A HOUSE IN GOA: According to a report in the UK-based Sunday Times, purchasing houses in Goa and other parts of India has become a lucrative option for foreigners. At the end of the day it's no more expensive than a caravan in Bridlington, says Jan Turner, a public-relations director, quoted in the Times report. Jan and husband Robert have just bought a new three-bedroom flat in Goa. Spurred on by the glut of holiday-home programmes and cheaper and more regular long-haul flights, Britons are widening their horizons when it comes to buying abroad. (H) RAPE OF UK SCRIBE: 2 ACQUITTED: Two persons charged for raping a journalist from United Kingdom were acquitted by the additional sessions court in Margao on December 31. (GT). MAN FLINGS BOY INTO A WELL: Suleman Shaikh (35), a resident of Navelim, was arrested for flinging a boy into a well recently. The accused irked by children playing cricket, caught hold of the 11-year-old boy, Irappa, and flung him into a well. (NT) GOA YEARNS FOR MORE TOURISTS: Even as an estimated 1.25 lakh tourists-both foreign and domestic-descended on the State to ring in the New Year, Goa Tourism has resolved to launch a concerted effort to ensure that 2004 will be a successful year. Tourism Director N Suryanarayana said that for the first time all government department would work in the tandem to ensure that Goa is high on the list of the world's favourite tourism destinations. During 2003 more than 20 lakh tourists visited Goa during the year, a significant increase from 2002's 16 lakh arrivals. We expect arrivals to increase by at least 30 per cent during 2004 because of the Exposition and the IFFI, Suryanarayana said. (GT) PETROL, DIESEL PRICES UP: The New Year will witness a record high in prices of petrol and diesel as consumers will have to shell out Re.1 to Rs.1.20 more for a litre of the two fuels from January 1. HELMETS FOR TWO-WHEELER RIDERS: Though there is stoic silence over effective implementation of compulsory helmet rule for two-wheeler riders from today, the government withdrawing the exemption granted in MV Rules last year makes it imperative for the law enforcing machinery to implement the Motor Vehicle Act, 1998. (NT) CENTRAL BANK TO FINANCE TOURISM: There is ample scope for tourism and Central Bank is keen to finance this sector as well in Goa, said General Manager MB Khurjekar while addressing a press conference at the Verna branch. The bank has 22 branches in Goa with total deposits of around Rs.390 lakh and advances of Rs.54 lakh. (GT) GU'S INACTION FLAYED: The Goa Environment and Ecology Trust has strongly condemned Goa University authorities for not seeking the arrest of the students responsible for blackening
[Goanet]Sports: India's leap year before the leap year
Goanet next meets in Goa: January 7, 4 pm (meeting point: Kala Academy canteen). Goanet founder Herman Carneiro will be there. See you there! -- India's leap year before the leap year TIMES NEWS NETWORK[ TUESDAY, DECEMBER 30, 2003 02:03:07 AM ] TOP SHOTS - Total Recall - Sports 2003 The Golden bronze Nobody, including Anju herself, would have lost sleep had she failed to win a medal at the World Athletic Championships in Saint-Denis, Paris, earlier this year. But, now, with the historic bronze adorning her mantlepiece, Anju will find the pressure of expectation in 2004, which is Olympic year. Training with the legendary US long jumper Mike Powell and being signed up by an international management firm (HCI) only partly contributed to her learning and growth in 2003. It was the sheer experience of jumping with top-class athletes that saw the rise and rise of Anju. And, of course, the support of husband-cum-coach Bobby. Advani on cue Pankaj Advani sweetened the Diwali celebrations for India's cuesport fans by claiming the World snooker title beating a Pakistani, Mohammed Saleh, 11-6, in the final at Jiangmen, China, in October. He became the second Indian, after Om Agarwal in 1984, and the youngest to win the title. India have a clutch of billiards title, so the lone snooker title that the late Agrawal had won was endearing for all. For two decades the country wondered if OB's feat would be replicated. The answer was negative until 2003 when Bangalore-lad Advani won the world crown to show there was life in snooker after OB. Sania's doubles A band ushered in the Wimbledon men's singles final between Roger Federer and Mark Philippoussis on Centre Court. Elsewhere at the All England Lawn Tennis and Croquet Club that cloudy July day, Sania Mirza and Alisa Kleybanova had already composed a melody of their own by winning the girls doubles title. In the final they beat Katerina Bohmova of the Czech Republic and Michaela Krajicek of The Netherlands 2-6 6-3 6-2. The hard-hitting Sania became the first Indian female to win a Grand Slam at any level. She became an overnight star. She went on to win four gold in the Afro-Asian Games in her hometown. Gagangoal!!! Talk of Indian hockey in 2003 and the first image that flashes across is of Gagan Ajit Singh celebrating with raised arms and screaming with delight Gabriel Batistuta style after another super-strike. Given his exceptionally high scoring rate, 'Gagangoal' would be an apt nickname for the Indian goalscoring machine. Over the last year, Indian hockey achieved some famous victories, and 'Gagangoal' was in the thick of action in all of them. However the Punjab forward seems to reserve his best against Pakistan. The sensational double strike in the unforgettable rally at the Amstelveen Champions Trophy league match against Pakistan will be talked about for a few generations to come. He repeated the feat against them in the Asia Cup and the Afro-Asian Games to round up the spectacular year. Aaj ka Arjun Arjun Atwal set out to make major inroads in pro golf at the beginning of 2003. By the end of the year, the Kolkata-based golfer made a mark in Asia and America. It was a landmark year in his long pro career, leading him to heights not attained by an Indian golfer yet. While Atwal did consistently well throughout the year, the icing(s) on the cake came in December When he qualified for the US PGA Tour and followed it up with the Asian Order of Merit title. He also became the first to reach $ 1 million on the Asian Tour. Atwal's exploits have been an inspiration to a plethora of Indian pros trying to break free on the international stage. ## # Send submissions for Goanet to [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # PLEASE remember to stay on-topic (related to Goa), and avoid top-posts # # More details on Goanet at http://joingoanet.shorturl.com/ # # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ##
[Goanet]Sports: 2004: India on threshold of breakthrough
Goanet next meets in Goa: January 7, 4 pm (meeting point: Kala Academy canteen). Goanet founder Herman Carneiro will be there. See you there! -- 2004: India on threshold of breakthrough BOBBILLI VIJAY KUMAR TIMES NEWS NETWORK[ TUESDAY, DECEMBER 30, 2003 01:55:32 AM ] The Indian cricket team couldn't have left 2003 more tantalisingly poised. If everything goes well for Steve Waugh on Tuesday, he would be a delighted man: even a seasoned Hollywood writer would not have been able to conceive such a dramatic finale to his career. But then, his Sydney Opera could easily turn into a nightmare too: one or two bad sessions and the most successful skipper of the current generation with red rag and blazing willow in tow could well drown in his own teardrops. If that happens, India will shed tears too: but they will be tears of joy, of celebration, of the ultimate breakthrough. After all, it will be their first series victory in Australia; it will probably be their greatest triumph too. Hopefully, it will also bury the voodoo that they've been carrying on their overseas tours since the days of Lala Amarnath. Sourav Ganguly will surely be crowned emperor; Rahul Dravid has already been anointed king; Sachin Tendulkar will still remain first, but first only among equals. Yes, 2004 promises to be one of those years: exciting yet dangerous, promising yet on the edge of a precipice. It could be the year when Indian sport finally comes of age; but it could also be the year when everything slips back into the ravine. Win or lose, Ganguly's Tigers will come back as heroes. But they won't be able to sit on their great moments for too long: a tour to Pakistan is looming. A defeat in Musharraf's den will mitigate all the joy that earlier wins in battlefields had evoked. India will, of course, be visiting that part of its forgotten world after almost 15 years (for Tests); the cricket itself may not be exhilarating but it could do much more than that for their bilateral ties. History is waiting to be made. It is waiting to be written in various other sports too: 2004 is the year of the Olympics and, for probably the first time, the country will be looking at them with hope and expectation. India is actually in a position to dream about more than one medal on sport's biggest stage: Anju George, Anjali Bhagwat, Abhinav Bindra, Leander Paes Mahesh Bhupathi and the hockey team. If Rajinder Singh's Boys in Blue manage a tango at Athens, they will give the final kiss of life to the national sport. They will, of course, have to cross the qualifying hurdle in Madrid first. After that, the world will be at their feet. Arjun Atwal will also be taking a gigantic leap for Indian golf: he will make his first foray into the fierce US Tour and even a whiff or two of victory will be enough to spur the likes of Jyoti Randhawa and Digvijay Singh. He will get a lot of time to conjure that magic moment; but at the other extreme, where everything is won or lost in seconds, Narain Karthikeyan can finally become the first Indian Formula One driver. He won't be just the 'fastest Indian in the world' anymore. There is lot of action in the international arena too: apart from the Olympics, the Champions Trophy in cricket, Euro soccer and all the usual affairs. Will Schumacher take another title? Will the Williams sisters quell the Belgian girls? Will Chelsea rise above Man United and Real Madrid? Will the 100-metre sprint record be broken? Will Tyson land in more trouble? Yes, 2004 is worth waiting for. For India, though, the celebrations will begin or end in the first week itself: so, here's one hoping for the big thrill in Sydney. ## # Send submissions for Goanet to [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # PLEASE remember to stay on-topic (related to Goa), and avoid top-posts # # More details on Goanet at http://joingoanet.shorturl.com/ # # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ##
[Goanet]Let's have some humanity here
Goanet next meets in Goa: January 7, 4 pm (meeting point: Kala Academy canteen). Goanet founder Herman Carneiro will be there. See you there! -- delving into the finer issues misses the main issue, which is: prostitution is illegal. this implies that baina must be shut down. no ifs, no buts. the fact that it is not done so far, is a reflection of the poor state of administration. if human kindness wells up in somebody's heart, please feel free to help the prostitute. it is unacceptable to make society pay for your utopian agendas. just what powerful NGOs are striving for. we must protect our interests and that of our society. the administration is acting, speak out, show your support. novyA vorsAnt boreM zauM agnelo please find the orginal post at: http://www.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet/2003-December/008563.html __ Do you Yahoo!? Find out what made the Top Yahoo! Searches of 2003 http://search.yahoo.com/top2003 ## # Send submissions for Goanet to [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # PLEASE remember to stay on-topic (related to Goa), and avoid top-posts # # More details on Goanet at http://joingoanet.shorturl.com/ # # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ##
[Goanet]FRIDAY BALCAO:Sea Turtle Conservation in Goa: Issues and concerns
Goanet next meets in Goa: January 7, 4 pm (meeting point: Kala Academy canteen). Goanet founder Herman Carneiro will be there. See you there! -- --- Welcome to the FRIDAY BALCAO Read the Balcao Synopsis on the website http://www.goadesc.org/balcao/ --- Dear Cybergaokars on GoaNet, We continue with FRIDAY BALCAO on 9th January from 4pm. to 6pm. at Goa Desc Resource Centre No. 11, Liberty Apartments, Feira Alta, Mapusa Goa Ph. 2252660 TOPIC:Sea Turtle Conservation in Goa: Issues and concerns SPEAKER:Sujeet Kumar Dongre, CEE, Porvorim Those citizens wanting to contribute to the discussion at Friday Balcao but cannot attend may send their views and action plan suggestions by post to FRIDAY BALCAO Post Box 78, Mapusa 403 507 or by email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] best wishes, Roland Martins - Don't miss out on the discussion. Subscribe to the BALCAO Synopsis for Rs.80/- Gift subscribe for your relatives, neighbours and friends. Information is power, Share it equitably. Lets make things happen in Goa !! -- === GOA DESC RESOURCE CENTRE Documentation + Education + Solidarity 11 Liberty Apts., Feira Alta, Mapusa, Goa 403 507 Tel: 2252660 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Working On Issues Of Development Democracy === ## # Send submissions for Goanet to [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # PLEASE remember to stay on-topic (related to Goa), and avoid top-posts # # More details on Goanet at http://joingoanet.shorturl.com/ # # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ##
[Goanet]Goan Chieft Guest speeches and learning posts
Goanet next meets in Goa: January 7, 4 pm (meeting point: Kala Academy canteen). Goanet founder Herman Carneiro will be there. See you there! -- Hello Gilbert Filomena Giese can speak for herself, but I read her post very differently than you did. After many years in Goan cyberspace, there is a lot of hot air here and very little action. Filomena's comment reflects the feelings of many. I also grew up in Bombay (now Mumbai) and went to Goan Catholic functions with chief guests. I am trying to recall one project or idea presented which benefitted Goa and Goans and cannot think of any. I think many of the speeches were boring (I am being polite here). Hence, I would prefer to see posts which describe CONCRETE projects and ideas which have been implemented and which can be dulplicated successfully where Goans reside. Regarding the Francis Xavier celebration in New York, can you provide a list of proposals or projects or ideas at the event which actually benefitted Goans? Or was it another mindless church feast? You will no doubt know, that our so-called Goans do not take the time to have a Blessed Vaz or Fr. Agnelo celebration (Goans), but have time for European saints. While I am critical of these events, I mean no disrespect to the chief guest Ralph D'Souza (my mom's cousin), Fr. Albert Castellino (also my mom's cousin) and Fr. Basilio (a friend). I agree with Ralph that Goans have an obligation to Goa. Happy New Year to you and those on the Gregorian calendar. To the others, cheers anyway. Best wishes, George Pinto __ Do you Yahoo!? Find out what made the Top Yahoo! Searches of 2003 http://search.yahoo.com/top2003 ## # Send submissions for Goanet to [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # PLEASE remember to stay on-topic (related to Goa), and avoid top-posts # # More details on Goanet at http://joingoanet.shorturl.com/ # # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ##
[Goanet]Goan Ethnic Purity
Goanet next meets in Goa: January 7, 4 pm (meeting point: Kala Academy canteen). Goanet founder Herman Carneiro will be there. See you there! -- HAPPY NEW YEAR- NOVEM VOROS Goan Ethnic Purity This subject has surfaced recently generating many posts. As I thnk about the subject, one is mixing up genetic purity and culture and society. In one if not two generations, my progeny will likely be American by culture even though they will continue to be Goan by genetic inheritance. Please look up a textbook of Sociology for definition of a Culture and Society. What generated the post to the Brits was the name of our ethnicity and way of life. The Brits were wrong in their statement that Luso-Indians became/ are now called Goans. They were very gracious and prompt in their reply and we have to give them credit (and learn!). The probability is very high that Mesticios or Luso-descendentes (not Luso-Indians which is an English word) behaved culturally like Portuguese and returned to Portugal. In fact what pissed off the Portuguese padres about Goans was that in spite of the Catholic faith the Goans behaved like Concane (Goan Hindus). It was partly to stop this nana-sense that the Purtugez introduced the Inquisition against the Catholics (ani others). One famous quote from a Portuguese priest was that Canarims (Goan Catholics) ARE CATHOLIC BY FAITH BUT HINDU BY CULTURE, CASTE, DRESS, DIET, SOCIAL CODES, LANGUAGE, RESIDENCE AND LIFE STYLE. It is these characteristics that define Goan society and not the genes of the people. So even with Goan and/or different genes, one could still be a Goan if one had many of the above mores and customs. You can see my book for the specific (and well defined) cultural practices (ani NOT Chalta-Hai ani Everything-Goes). By the same token in the absence of any of the above markers (in CAPS) it is difficult to call one a Goan with or without the genes. Ani drinking Feni does not count. :=)). And neither does live-in arrangements, polygamy, divorce, cremation etc. I am not passing moral judgments on these practices. All I am saying these are not Goans cultural practices. AND JUST BECAUSE ONE OR A FEW MEMBERS OF THE GOAN SOCIETY DO SO, THAT DOES NOT BECOME THE PRACTICE AND THE MORES OF THE GOAN SOCIETY. Contrary to what many have written and even more may think, the exception is not the rule. It is what is says - the exception. And the exceptions do not become the norm, even if the exception is reported as I know / heard of this one case. In our field, we call them anecdotal cases. Of late, the exceptions may get sensationalized and romanticized by some articulate Goans writing novels or postings from some rustic setting on the banks of the boro vodlo lake close to the north pole - I mean Swindon. :=)) These fictional tales then become the basis of some scientific THESIS and are posted on some enchanting Goan website. If we Goans are lucky these stories may even be made into TV mini-series or a movie. What surprises me are these deforming and defaming stories (about free-wheeling sex and marriages) are put out by Khoro Niz Goenkars. The same also complain vehemently that some right wing RSS is demeaning the image of the Goenkars and especially the Christaums. While Goans know the truth from the kaneos, some non-Goan who now goes to the Goa-web swallows these kaneos hook, line and sinker. Then a (Ph D) consultant will write even further denigrating stories about our community. After all the Brits got their facts from some consultants or researchers. It is hence all the more important that Goans stay vigilant for these fokana stories. In the past these kaneos were widely circulated by our tarvotis. Now we have to deal with armchair cerebral tarvotis with some pretty wild imaginations. :=)) Good for them! :=)) Not so good for the rest of us.:=)) These Mental Tarvotis are now in cyberspace armed with some slick web-pages. The more fascinating the stories and more graphic / outrageous the Goan images, the more popular will be the novels and more books will be sold and more attractive the web site. Do you think these Goan / Konkan web sites would place this critique on their pages? No soiree!!! But we can hope and pray that some day the (XYZ) smoke will clear and truth will prevail. Regards, GL, NY ## # Send submissions for Goanet to [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # PLEASE remember to stay on-topic (related to Goa), and avoid top-posts # # More details on Goanet at http://joingoanet.shorturl.com/ # # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ##
Re: [Goanet]Re: Surnames
Goanet next meets in Goa: January 7, 4 pm (meeting point: Kala Academy canteen). Goanet founder Herman Carneiro will be there. See you there! -- Double barrelled names are problematic but I'd like to suggest Costa Correa and Costa Bir Cornel - Original Message - From: Bosco - Goanet Volunteer [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, December 31, 2003 11:20 PM Subject: [Goanet]Re: Surnames Goanet next meets in Goa: January 7, 4 pm (meeting point: Kala Academy canteen). Goanet founder Herman Carneiro will be there. See you there! -- On Wed, 31 Dec 2003 11:21:05 -, ferros [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Here is my surname that is not on your list FERROS Stephen Ferros Happy holidays to Goanetters headed HOME !! ## # Send submissions for Goanet to [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # PLEASE remember to stay on-topic (related to Goa), and avoid top-posts # # More details on Goanet at http://joingoanet.shorturl.com/ # # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ## ## # Send submissions for Goanet to [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # PLEASE remember to stay on-topic (related to Goa), and avoid top-posts # # More details on Goanet at http://joingoanet.shorturl.com/ # # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ##
[Goanet]Surnames
Goanet next meets in Goa: January 7, 4 pm (meeting point: Kala Academy canteen). Goanet founder Herman Carneiro will be there. See you there! -- Subject: Surnames Happy New Year to all Goenkars and Goanetters. I have not been following this thread much. I did come across a question to me to be about adding Lawrence to the List of Goan surnames that I surmised is being done. Please by all means add Lawrence (my birth certificate) or Lourenco (my father's birth certificate) to the list. I am not in favor of modifying surnames en mass. I think the problems will surface in 100 years. Then, three generation from now if someone with an interest is perusing family roots, there will be confusao- but innit that Goan?.:=)) I think more important to maintain our Goan heritage would be to compile a list of Goan first names. And encouraging young parents to use them. Recently, I came across a pure ani strong Goan couple (both parents) select names Aaron and Noah for their twin boys. It just got me thinking. What ever happened to Pedru, Gabru, Babush ani Bosteaum? :=)) Regards, GL ## # Send submissions for Goanet to [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # PLEASE remember to stay on-topic (related to Goa), and avoid top-posts # # More details on Goanet at http://joingoanet.shorturl.com/ # # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ##
Re: [goa-research-net] [Goanet]Re: Unrevising the actions of the Konkani revisionists[Scanned]
Goanet next meets in Goa: January 7, 4 pm (meeting point: Kala Academy canteen). Goanet founder Herman Carneiro will be there. See you there! -- Dear Teotonio, Greetings for the year 2004. I do not know which query you are replying to. This message looked abrupt to me. Is it an answer to the search for Portuguese words in Konkani and vice versa? With good wishes, William Goanet next meets in Goa: January 7, 4 pm (meeting point: Kala Academy canteen). Goanet founder Herman Carneiro will be there. See you there! -- It should not surprise anyone if linguistic imperialism is an effective way of domination, be it politically or economically. All western colonial powers have done that by imposing their language. During the Portuguese regime the competence of a Goan was measured by his capacity to handle Portuguese language. As a result, in his own native land, Goenkar4s Konkani was of no use. It reminds me of a definition of mother-tongue by Ravindra Kelekar. It is the language that helps one to earn his bread or livelihood. How would it be if we had asked the Portuguese to learn Konknni to continue staying in Goa? I also think that we need not re-invent the wheel by trying to list words of Portuguese origin that entered as loan-words into Konknni. An elaborate and scholarly work has already been done by our countryman, Sebastico Rodolfo Dalgado and it was published in Baroda with an Introduction in English by Anthony Xavier Soares 1936, and was reprinted 1998 by Asian Educational Services in Delhi. It is a volumous tome with 320 pages and entitled *Portuguese vocables in Asiatic languages*. We are even provided with minute details about the origin and derivation of such words. I recommend that all discussing this issue on Goanet stop wasting their time and acquire a copy of this book. Those wishing to place it on website could also do so, because the book belongs already to public domain and is no longer subject to copyright. Teotonio R. de Souza From: The Goan Forum [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Goanet]Unrevising the actions of the Konkani revisionists - 1 Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Further to what the good Goemcar Godfrey Gonsalves has posted about Konkani and the attempt to forcibly Sanskritize it (much like HINDI was), we are placing a provisional list of Konkani words which are being targetted by the Saraswat Revisionists for decapitation. ## # Send submissions for Goanet to [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # PLEASE remember to stay on-topic (related to Goa), and avoid top-posts # # More details on Goanet at http://joingoanet.shorturl.com/ # # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ## --- To Subscribe/Unsubscribe from Goa-Research-Net --- * Send us a brief self-intro to justify your interest in this specialized forum. This should be sent to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or to [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] (NOT [EMAIL PROTECTED]) * Leave SUBJECT blank * On first line of the BODY of your message, type: subscribe goa-research-net [EMAIL PROTECTED] or unsubscribe goa-research-net [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- -- +++ GMX - die erste Adresse für Mail, Message, More +++ Neu: Preissenkung für MMS und FreeMMS! http://www.gmx.net ## # Send submissions for Goanet to [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # PLEASE remember to stay on-topic (related to Goa), and avoid top-posts # # More details on Goanet at http://joingoanet.shorturl.com/ # # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ##
[Goanet]Konkanis... who are they?
Goanet next meets in Goa: January 7, 4 pm (meeting point: Kala Academy canteen). Goanet founder Herman Carneiro will be there. See you there! -- One version from the Net FN http://theory.tifr.res.in/bombay/history/ethnic/konkani.html The Konkanis Language: Konkani, Religion: Hindu/Christian/Muslim, Population: 4.5 million. The Konaki people like to trace their history back to 4000 BC. The movement of these tribes to the region of present-day Goa is sometimes traced back to the 11th century AD. However, well-documented history starts from the time of the Maratha empire in the 15th century. A large fraction of the population now live in the Konkan coastal pockets of the Ratnagiri and Sawantwadi districts of Maharashtra, Goa http://www.goacom.com/, and coastal Karnataka http://ece.iisc.ernet.in/bu.edu/karnataka/ and Kerala http://www.keral.com/. These settlements can be dated from the early 16th Century. During the 14th century rule of the Kings of Gujarat over the islands of Bombay, a people called /Naitias/ first appeared in these islands. They are believed to be Konkanis. The /Siddis/ are a Konkani people of African origin, who trace their history back to their arrival in India in the 13th century from Ethiopia. A /Sidi/ held the Janjira sea fort /bombay/leisure/travel/ during the Maratha-Portuguese wars of the 16th century. The Doctrina Christi, published in 1622 by the British missionary Fr. Thomas Stephens, was the first book in Konkani. Believed to be the first printed book in an Asian language, this book uses the Roman script. In 1640 Stephens also published Arte da Lingoa Canarim, a Konkani grammar book written in 1580. The Devanagari script was first used in 1675 in a treatise on /Ayurveda/. The first newspaper in Konkani, O Konkani, was started in 1886. Presently, Konkani also uses the Kannada as well as the Arabic scripts. Among famous Konkanis one can count Guru Dutt, a famous film-maker, Remo Fernandes a well-known pop-singer, Prakash Padukone, a former Badminton world champion, Julio Riberio, once the chief of Police in Bombay and India's ex-ambassador to Rumania, and Narsing Rao Benegal who helped Ambedkar in drafting the Indian constitution. © Copyright and disclaimer /bombay/disclaim.html. Created on Dec 30, 1995; last modified Feb 6, 1999. ## # Send submissions for Goanet to [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # PLEASE remember to stay on-topic (related to Goa), and avoid top-posts # # More details on Goanet at http://joingoanet.shorturl.com/ # # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ##
[Goanet]Christian Surnames in Goa
Goanet next meets in Goa: January 7, 4 pm (meeting point: Kala Academy canteen). Goanet founder Herman Carneiro will be there. See you there! -- Here is a listing of all the Christian surnames put forth on Goanet, with corrections and additions. Do go through for any more spelling mistakes, and doubles. I have added a few more which are: Abreo, Alfonso, DSouza, Suares, and Vas Clinton.. ABRANCHES ABREO ABREU AFONSO ALBUQUERQUE ALEMAO ALFONSO ALMEIDA ALPHONSO ALVARES ALVES ANDRADE ANNES ANTAO AQUAVIVA AQUINO ARANJO ARAUJO ARES AZAREDO BAPTISTA BARACHO BARATA BARBOSA BARETTO BARNETTO BARRETO BARROS BATISTA BORGES BOTELHO BOTHELLO BRAGANCA BRAGANZA BRAVO BRITTO CABRAL CAEIRO CAIRO CALADO CALDEIRA CAMARA CAMOES CANA CARDOSO CARDOZ CARDOZO CARMO CARNEIRO CARVALHO CASTELINO CASTELO CATULO CAVACO COELHO COLACO COLIMAO CORDEIRO CORREIA CORTES COSTA COSTA BIR COSTAO COTA COTTA COUTINHO COUTO CRASTO CREADO DA COSTA DA CRUZ DA CUNHA DA GAMA DA SILVA D'ABREU D'COSTA D'CUNHA D'REGO D'SA D'SILVA D'SOUZA DE LIMA DE MELLO DE MONTE DE SOUSA DIAS DINIZ DORES DOS DORES DOS MONTES DOS REGO DOS VASCONCELOS DOURADO DUARTE ESTEBEIRO ESTEVES ESTIBEIRO ESTROCIO FACHO FAIA FALCAO FALEIRO FARIA FERNANDES FERRAO FERREIRA FIGUEIRA FIGUEIREDO FILINTO FILOMENO FLOR FLORES FONSECA FONTES FRAGOSO FRANK FREITAS FRIAS FROES FROIS FURTADO GODINHO GOES GOMENDES GOMES GOMINDES GONSALVES GRACIAS GUIMARAES HEIRERA HENRIQUES HEREDIA IDALADO JACQUES JAQUES JOANES JORGE LACERDA LANDES LAWRENCE LEITAO LEMOS LEWIS LIMA LOBO LONGUINHOS LOPES LOPEZ LOUIS LOURENCO LUCAS LUIS MACARIO MACHADO MACIEL MADEIRA MARCHON MARCOS MARQUAIS MARQUES MARQUES MARTINS MASCARENHAS MATIAS MATOS MAZARELLO MAZARELO MEDEIRA MELLO MELO MENDES MENDONCA MENEZES MENINO MERGULAO MERGULHAO MESQUITA MEYRELLES MILAGRES MIRANDA MIRANDA MISQUITA MONIZ MONSERRATE MONTANA MONTE MONTEIRO MORAES MORAIS MOTA NEGREDO NERI NEVES NORONHA NUNES OLEGAR OLIVEIRA OLIVEIRO OSORIO OZARIO PACHECO PAES PALHA PEGADO PEREIRA PERES PIMENTA PINHEIRO PINHO PINTO PIRES PITOGRAS PRAZERES QUADROS QUEIROZ RANGEL RAPOSO RAPOZO RASQUINHA RATO RATOS REBELLO REGO REMEDIOS RIBEIRO ROCHA RODRICKS RODRIGUES RODRIQUES ROGTAO RONCON ROSARIO SALDANHA SALES SANCHES SANTA RITA SANTAMARIA SANTANA SANTIMANO SANTOS SAPECO SECO SEIXAS SEQUEIRA SERRAO SILVEIRA SIMOES SIQUEIRA SOARES SOBRINHO SOUTO SOUZA SUARES TALES TAVARES TAVORA TEIXEIRA TELLES TEXEIRA TICLO TORCATO TORQUATO TORRADO TORRES TOSCANO TOVAR TRAVASCO TRINIDAD TRINIDADE URBINO VALADARES VALES VARELA VAS VASCONCELOS VAZ VEIRA VELHO VELOSO VERDES VIEGAS VIEGAS VIRIATO VIRIRA XAVIER ZACARIAS ZUZARTE Clinton Vaz__ Personal Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jokes/Mailing Lists: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Home Tel: +91 (832) 273-6828 (after 6.30pm) Work Tel: +91 (832) 278-3393 ext 449 (9am-5.30pm) Instant Messengers: Yahoo: klintvaz, MSN: willyvaz, ICQ: 48668652 --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.554 / Virus Database: 346 - Release Date: 12/20/2003 ## # Send submissions for Goanet to [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # PLEASE remember to stay on-topic (related to Goa), and avoid top-posts # # More details on Goanet at http://joingoanet.shorturl.com/ # # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ##
[Goanet]Common Ward Names in 2 different villages (Navelim and Majorda)
Goanet next meets in Goa: January 7, 4 pm (meeting point: Kala Academy canteen). Goanet founder Herman Carneiro will be there. See you there! -- Hi Cecil In response to Would appreciate if anyone who knows a rare ward name, that exists in at least TWO villages, would post the same. I can think of Dongorim or Dongrim in Navelim where I grew up and one in Majorda/Nuvem a smaller ward I remember our incoming mail going to wrong ward Cheers Kurt __ Do you Yahoo!? Find out what made the Top Yahoo! Searches of 2003 http://search.yahoo.com/top2003 ## # Send submissions for Goanet to [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # PLEASE remember to stay on-topic (related to Goa), and avoid top-posts # # More details on Goanet at http://joingoanet.shorturl.com/ # # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ##
Re: [Goanet]Let's have some humanity here
Goanet next meets in Goa: January 7, 4 pm (meeting point: Kala Academy canteen). Goanet founder Herman Carneiro will be there. See you there! -- --- Cecil Pinto [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Goanet next meets in Goa: January 7, 4 pm (meeting point: Kala Academy canteen). Goanet founder Herman Carneiro will be there. See you there! -- Dear Ms. Pereira, Though I agree with your sentiments about the Red Light area in Baina being an eyesore and a nuisance to decent and law abiding citizens of the area, I beg to differ on certain finer points you have raised. - Flush them out and they will fend for themselves. I pass this area every day on my way to work and it makes me sad. I don't quite get this. Are you sad for the prostitutes who are forced to sell their body to make a living? Or for yourself and the other locals who have to put up with the nuisance? I suspect it is the latter since you want to flush them out. Do you think this is a humane approach? - We watch them in buses/ eating houses/ beauty saloons. So perhaps they should not be allowed to use public transportation, eat in public restaurants and enter beauty saloons? Reminds me of South Africa. Or was it the medieval 'untouchability' system? - A group of them even enter the church and walk up the aisle ,in the middle of the service and begin venerating the images around. Surely the local priest can stop this disturbing practice. But I hope you are not suggesting that they now not be allowed in the Church to pray - as long as they do it respectfully and reverently? Turning away the faithful is against the teachings of the Catholic faith - I think. - We could help with some monetary assistance but let them go. This is a positive sign. But I doubt some small monetary assistance will alleviate their loss at losing their right to pursue their livelihood. A more practical solution would perhaps be proper relocation and rehabilitation. They are human beings too. Flushing them away, physically or with money, will mean just putting your dirt into the neighbour's backyard. A bigger perspective of the problem is required. Cecil === Message: 6 Date: Wed, 31 Dec 2003 00:48:59 +0530 From: Wilma Pereira [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Goanet]Re: Baina cutting off victims Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Dear Zarine Chinvala I understand your concern for the inmates of Baina Red-light area But May I offer my views .Being a Goankar of this area I am thoroughly disgusted to have such an area in our locality .It is a temptation not only for Tourists but our growing children and not so young husbands ,The growing number of AIDS cases reported daily is shocking and life threatening to the locals too. As a teacher in a nearby school I hate to state that many of our students have fallen prey . Recently, while on a National seminar in Rasjasthan I was quizzed mainly on this area by my curious colleagues. I realized to my horror that this area has given us Goons a cheap image (although most of the prostitutes are non -Goons ). It's been years we've been hoping and praying for this area to be wiped out. Private is no excuse for ruining our children / homes and threaten our health. I congratulate the Present Government and the Police force .,for taking a tough stand. In the past, corrupt politicians supported them for their votes . Flush them out and they will fend for themselves. I pass this area every day on my way to work and it makes me sad. We watch them in buses /.eating houses/ beauty saloons .A group of them even enter the church and walk up the aisle ,in the middle of the service and begin venerating the images around. We could help with some monetary assistance but let them go. Ms Pereira = ## # Send submissions for Goanet to [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # PLEASE remember to stay on-topic (related to Goa), and avoid top-posts # # More details on Goanet at http://joingoanet.shorturl.com/ # # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ## Yahoo! India Mobile: Download the latest polyphonic ringtones. Go to http://in.mobile.yahoo.com ## # Send submissions for Goanet to [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # PLEASE remember to stay on-topic (related to Goa), and avoid top-posts # # More details on Goanet at http://joingoanet.shorturl.com/ # #
[Goanet]Greetings
Goanet next meets in Goa: January 7, 4 pm (meeting point: Kala Academy canteen). Goanet founder Herman Carneiro will be there. See you there! -- Hi Guys, Wishing you all out there at large a very Happy New Year 2004 Best of Luck B. Coutinho ## # Send submissions for Goanet to [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # PLEASE remember to stay on-topic (related to Goa), and avoid top-posts # # More details on Goanet at http://joingoanet.shorturl.com/ # # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ##
[Goanet]E-MAIL ADDRESS OF THE NETHERLANDS EMBASSY AT NEW DELHI
Goanet next meets in Goa: January 7, 4 pm (meeting point: Kala Academy canteen). Goanet founder Herman Carneiro will be there. See you there! -- I want to contact the Netherland Embassy at New Delhi. Would any Goanetters at New Delhi or elsewhee kindly provide me the e-mail address or fax or telephone number of the Netherland Embassy. Wishing all Goanetters a Happy and Prosperous NEW YEAR. Simon ## # Send submissions for Goanet to [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # PLEASE remember to stay on-topic (related to Goa), and avoid top-posts # # More details on Goanet at http://joingoanet.shorturl.com/ # # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ##
[Goanet]Re: Goanet digest, Vol 1 #723 - MESSAGE 1
Goanet next meets in Goa: January 7, 4 pm (meeting point: Kala Academy canteen). Goanet founder Herman Carneiro will be there. See you there! -- Well Mr. Tony, apparently the EDC was best suited because the objective of both the Indian Government and the Goa Government is to lure the NRIs ONLY FOR THEIR EARNINGS. And may I ask is it Mr Chandrakant Keni the Chairman NRI Facilitation Centre of Mr. Dinar Bhatkar (commnly known as Deputy CM ) who calls the shots? godfrey j. i. gonsalves borda margao Goa [EMAIL PROTECTED] === message truncated === Yahoo! India Matrimony: Find your partner online. Go to http://yahoo.shaadi.com ## # Send submissions for Goanet to [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # PLEASE remember to stay on-topic (related to Goa), and avoid top-posts # # More details on Goanet at http://joingoanet.shorturl.com/ # # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ##
[Goanet]The Jose Vas Story - 4: Tonybab's predicament or is it?
Goanet next meets in Goa: January 7, 4 pm (meeting point: Kala Academy canteen). Goanet founder Herman Carneiro will be there. See you there! -- A new article has been uploaded on the TGF website The Jose Vas Story - 4 Tonybab's predicament or is it? http://www.colaco.net ENTER Look under NEW Your critique is invited. Happy New Year 2004 to ALL Goans and Goaphiles. jc __ Do you Yahoo!? Free Pop-Up Blocker - Get it now http://companion.yahoo.com/ ## # Send submissions for Goanet to [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # PLEASE remember to stay on-topic (related to Goa), and avoid top-posts # # More details on Goanet at http://joingoanet.shorturl.com/ # # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ##
Re: [Goanet]Let's have some humanity here
Goanet next meets in Goa: January 7, 4 pm (meeting point: Kala Academy canteen). Goanet founder Herman Carneiro will be there. See you there! -- Dear Mam'Pereira, At the onset let me wish you a happy and prosperous new year. Is prostitution legalised in Goa? Just a small question, being a teacher how would you tackle an issue of AIDS in your school or neighbouring area of your school. Secondly about your trip to rajasthan and being quizzed , I do not know what the topic on ;your seminar was all about, surely not the Baina stuff atleast, and you should not feel worried when questioned on this issue it is a fact all one has to do is find out a solution. What is more worrying , is the HIV/AIDS, who can educate us on giving the correct percentage of HIV/AIDS cases in Goa? Aids has no discrimination, the authorities and the distinguished people and teachers should apply their minds and find a solution . Vivek -- Cecil Pinto [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Goanet next meets in Goa: January 7, 4 pm (meeting point: Kala Academy canteen). Goanet founder Herman Carneiro will be there. See you there! -- Dear Ms. Pereira, Though I agree with your sentiments about the Red Light area in Baina being an eyesore and a nuisance to decent and law abiding citizens of the area, I beg to differ on certain finer points you have raised. - Flush them out and they will fend for themselves. I pass this area every day on my way to work and it makes me sad. I don't quite get this. Are you sad for the prostitutes who are forced to sell their body to make a living? Or for yourself and the other locals who have to put up with the nuisance? I suspect it is the latter since you want to flush them out. Do you think this is a humane approach? - We watch them in buses/ eating houses/ beauty saloons. So perhaps they should not be allowed to use public transportation, eat in public restaurants and enter beauty saloons? Reminds me of South Africa. Or was it the medieval 'untouchability' system? - A group of them even enter the church and walk up the aisle ,in the middle of the service and begin venerating the images around. Surely the local priest can stop this disturbing practice. But I hope you are not suggesting that they now not be allowed in the Church to pray - as long as they do it respectfully and reverently? Turning away the faithful is against the teachings of the Catholic faith - I think. - We could help with some monetary assistance but let them go. This is a positive sign. But I doubt some small monetary assistance will alleviate their loss at losing their right to pursue their livelihood. A more practical solution would perhaps be proper relocation and rehabilitation. They are human beings too. Flushing them away, physically or with money, will mean just putting your dirt into the neighbour's backyard. A bigger perspective of the problem is required. Cecil === Message: 6 Date: Wed, 31 Dec 2003 00:48:59 +0530 From: Wilma Pereira [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Goanet]Re: Baina cutting off victims Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Dear Zarine Chinvala I understand your concern for the inmates of Baina Red-light area But May I offer my views .Being a Goankar of this area I am thoroughly disgusted to have such an area in our locality .It is a temptation not only for Tourists but our growing children and not so young husbands ,The growing number of AIDS cases reported daily is shocking and life threatening to the locals too. As a teacher in a nearby school I hate to state that many of our students have fallen prey . Recently, while on a National seminar in Rasjasthan I was quizzed mainly on this area by my curious colleagues. I realized to my horror that this area has given us Goons a cheap image (although most of the prostitutes are non -Goons ). It's been years we've been hoping and praying for this area to be wiped out. Private is no excuse for ruining our children / homes and threaten our health. I congratulate the Present Government and the Police force .,for taking a tough stand. In the past, corrupt politicians supported them for their votes . Flush them out and they will fend for themselves. I pass this area every day on my way to work and it makes me sad. We watch them in buses /.eating houses/ beauty saloons .A group of them even enter the church and walk up the aisle ,in the middle of the service and begin venerating the images around. We could help with some monetary assistance but let them go. Ms Pereira = ## # Send submissions for Goanet to [EMAIL PROTECTED] # #
[Goanet]DADUSBORIT NOVEM VOROS!
Goanet next meets in Goa: January 7, 4 pm (meeting point: Kala Academy canteen). Goanet founder Herman Carneiro will be there. See you there! -- Aumdetam soglea Goemkarank dadusborit ani xantikaechem Novem Voros 2004! Mojem kirkoll magnnem, Dhoniam Devan soglim amchim chintnam hea vorsan xarti pavoumchim. Lambjie Goa! Moi-mogan, Domnic Fernandes Anjuna/Dhahran, KSA _ MSN 8 helps eliminate e-mail viruses. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus ## # Send submissions for Goanet to [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # PLEASE remember to stay on-topic (related to Goa), and avoid top-posts # # More details on Goanet at http://joingoanet.shorturl.com/ # # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ##
