[Goanet-news]05 APR 2004: GOACOM DAILY NEWS CLIPPINGS
GOACOM DAILY NEWS CLIPPINGS 05 APRIL 2004 Check GOACOM VIDEO NEWSCAST at http://www.goacom.com/news goacomNews02 Apr 04 H I G H L I G H T S -- Churchill Alemao is the South Goa Congress candidate -- Christopher Fonseca (CPI) is from North Goa - Dr Willy confident of winning -- Municipal market tenants stage morcha -- IFFI website inaugurated. Website: http://www.goacom.com Webzine "GoaNOW": http://www.goacom.com/goanow Daily Clippings: http://www.goacom.com/news MGP TO FIELD SANDIP RAUT: The Maharashtrawadi Gomantak Party, which has decided to go it alone in the Lok Sabha polls has decided to field Zilla Panchayat member Sandip Raut as its candidate for the Panaji seat. The MGP has decided to contest both seats in a bid to revive the party and also to keep its existence alive, according to the MGP chief. (GT) TRAFFIC DISCIPLINE NEEDED: Director General Police, Mumbai, Dr PS Pasricha, IPS, yesterday stated that traffic control and death on roads was a serious problem and stressed the need for better traffic discipline and education on the traffic. He was speaking at the first two-day Goa Road Safety conference organised by the Movement of Amity towards Roads in Goa, at the Institute Menezes Braganza hall, Panaji. (GT) STOP BARS ALONG HIGHWAYS: Use of helmets, removal of liquor outlets on highways, improving road engineering, enhancing enforcement and traffic education, was today (April 4) described by Maharashtra's Director General of Police, Dr PS Pasricha, as some of the key factors that will effectively contribute towards improving road safety in the State. (H) BARGE EMPLOYEE'S BODY FOUND: The Panjim police recovered the body of one barge employee who is suspected to have committed suicide by jumping out of the moving marine vessel early today (April 4) morning. The barge 'Cuncolim' was proceeding Amona to Vasco when the incident took place. (Clemente) Fernandes (33, from Seraulim) jumped from the moving vessel and his body was recovered near the Campal swimming pool. (H) DEBT CASES TO BE REFERRED TO MUMBAI: All pending and future disputes involving recovery of Rs.10 lakh and more between all co-operative banks in Maharashtra and Goa and their borrowers and guarantors would have to be referred to Bombay bench of Debts Recovery Tribunal. In a landmark judgement, the full bench of High Court Judicature at Bombay held that the Central and State Registrars of Co-operative Societies and also the nominees appointed by them have no jurisdiction to decide the dispute pertaining to recovery of loans above Rs.10 lakh give by the co-operative banks. (GT) VOTERS NEED TO DEMAND BETTER ROADS: Road culture in Goa is identified with the fashion of converting old, untarred roads into asphalted, pucca roads. There is no consideration of the durability, geometry, quality of riding surface, alignment, drainage and safety. In Bardez and Salcete the road density is so high and the intersections are so confusing and hazardous that almost every house is connected to a road. The condition of the 8,000-km-long road is pathetic. Only 50 per cent of our 225 km national highways have double-lanes. Our 23-km state highways have single lane. Out 52 major district roads running into 815 km are very narrow. The 4,000-km-long narrow village roads are not properly maintained. (Nandkumar Kamat in Glimpses-NT) PLEA TO RESTORE DEMOCRACY IN ITS TRUE MEANING: The Diocesan Service Centre for Social Action has called upon the citizens to act for restoring democracy in its true meaning and character. In an appeal to voter's the Centre said over 26.24 crore people live below the poverty line toiling under oppressive conditions to earn their meager basic needs for survival.In democratic India, the people are 'sovereign'. We have the right to freely decide what is 'necessary' and 'good' for our benefit and progress. We give the mandate to the persons we elect as our representatives, to legislate, govern and administer. These persons are fully accountable to us.Hence major proposals, projects and plans that impact the lives of the people, deserve a wide consultation. (NT) DIVAR SUMMER CAMP: The students of Our Lady of Divar High School, Divar, are all set to develop their talents with the launch of a summer camp under the banner "Divar Son of the Soil Project 2004" from April 5 to 18. Secretary of the DSE, Fr Tony Salema, will inaugurate the camp on April 5. Organised by the Parents and Teachers' Association of the school with the help of the ex-students and villagers, the camp is divided into four sections-sports, eco, culture and leadership programmes-held between 8 am and 12 noon. During the camp prominent personalities of Goa will share their knowledge on various topics in their field: NIO Director Dr Satish Shetye, cartoonist Alexyz, Sangeeta Naik of Digital Goa, North Goa SDPO Allan D'SA, Sabina Martins of Bailancho Saad, SAG Director Dr VM Prabhudesai, Mr Gaonkar from Food and Drugs Administration, Fr
[Goanet]Church and temple?
Miguel Braganza: Come to Mapusa 16 days after Easter in any year, visit the Church dedicated to St. Jerome in which the Milagris Saibinn is venerated above all the other deities one can think of and see the miracle of inter-religious harmony for yourself. I am not talking about civil engineering; I am talking about social and religious change. My grandfather is long dead. He was not a historian. He knew what he was writing. He wrote what he believed to be true as one would find in the good book.nothing glossed over...as it is. The Truth is the truth, even if nobody accepts it; A Lie is a lie, even if everyone swears by it. Gilbert responds: Thanks Miguel for your post and the clarification. I believe all that you have written and said and all that your esteemed grand-father has said (AND NOT SAID). Your grandfather did a tremendous service to Goa and Goans by documenting in the early 1900's Goa's oral history as he heard / learnt and was orally 'handed-down' from his forebears. You rightly suggest in your post that we cannot prove a negative. And the Mapuca church at least has no facts to prove the positive as was claimed by some. For me this issue is closed to my satisfaction. I would think the same would apply to all who closely followed this thread of the history of Goa's churches. As you say what matters, is what those who live in the local area believe in. Who are we to defile their viewpoints. As in the case of Babri - Masjid we certainly do not want a 'post mortem' to prove the right diagnosis. :=)) ## # Send submissions for Goanet to [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # PLEASE remember to stay on-topic (related to Goa), and avoid top-posts # # More details on Goanet at http://joingoanet.shorturl.com/ # # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ##
[Goanet]Any one can be a SAINT (Sant Tukaram)
Thanks Thalmann, It was very nice of you to quote the poem with translation. Also, good to know that u too know/remember some thing about hindu Saints/poets. btw, r u that Thalmann Pereira from MES College Vasco-joshi building? just curious. Regardd/ joe Quote: Hi Joe, The couplet "Moko Kahan ..." is by Kabir & it is in old Hindi ( I forget , whether , Khadi Boli or Braj Bhasha ) As far as I recollect the first four lines of the poem are: MOKO KAHAN DHUNDE RE BHAIYA ( Where are you searching for me , O Brother) MAIN TO TERE PAS MEIN ( I am next to you) NA MAI MANDIR , NA MAI MASJID (I am neither in the temple nor in the mosque) NA KABE NA KAILAS MEIN. ( Neither in Ka'bah nor in Kailas.) Regards, Thalmann. = http://in.groups.yahoo.com/group/GOAN-NRI/ ___ WIN FREE WORLDWIDE FLIGHTS - nominate a cafe in the Yahoo! Mail Internet Cafe Awards www.yahoo.co.uk/internetcafes ## # Send submissions for Goanet to [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # PLEASE remember to stay on-topic (related to Goa), and avoid top-posts # # More details on Goanet at http://joingoanet.shorturl.com/ # # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ##
[Goanet]Old Christian Names (from Goan Bhatcars)
how about these names ?? all from my locality Carolina (ladies) Terezinha Ermelina Nolasquinha Ritina Palmir Dumitilda Sacramenta Melitao (Gents) Exultasao Assumssao Deoglassao Roldao Baldumeiro Estebeiro Estaniclao Older (middle & lower class) people never called them by names, but always respect them saying BABA ou BAIE joe = http://in.groups.yahoo.com/group/GOAN-NRI/ ___ WIN FREE WORLDWIDE FLIGHTS - nominate a cafe in the Yahoo! Mail Internet Cafe Awards www.yahoo.co.uk/internetcafes ## # Send submissions for Goanet to [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # PLEASE remember to stay on-topic (related to Goa), and avoid top-posts # # More details on Goanet at http://joingoanet.shorturl.com/ # # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ##
[Goanet]flight info (this one for Indian Tourist)
Chepeast Flt to London/Paris/Frankfurt from Bombay is just Rs.19,800 (about £240) Read more... http://in.rediff.com/money/2004/apr/03perfin.htm = http://in.groups.yahoo.com/group/GOAN-NRI/ ___ WIN FREE WORLDWIDE FLIGHTS - nominate a cafe in the Yahoo! Mail Internet Cafe Awards www.yahoo.co.uk/internetcafes ## # Send submissions for Goanet to [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # PLEASE remember to stay on-topic (related to Goa), and avoid top-posts # # More details on Goanet at http://joingoanet.shorturl.com/ # # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ##
[Goanet]Goa-Internet Connectivity (dial-up)
Hope some one would be able to help me on this.. How much does dial-up connection cost in Goa? panaji? Do they charge by minute or sort of a package? e.g.first 300 minutes free and then after pay by minute etc Are they providing 'unlimited Access' scheme for a fixed monthly fee? Here, in UK one has to pay about £14 (Rs.1120) per month for unlimited access. No bills to pay just the monthy fee. In UK, Broadband also available for around £25 per month (about Rs2000). wud appreiciate yr help. joe = http://in.groups.yahoo.com/group/GOAN-NRI/ ___ WIN FREE WORLDWIDE FLIGHTS - nominate a cafe in the Yahoo! Mail Internet Cafe Awards www.yahoo.co.uk/internetcafes ## # Send submissions for Goanet to [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # PLEASE remember to stay on-topic (related to Goa), and avoid top-posts # # More details on Goanet at http://joingoanet.shorturl.com/ # # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ##
Re: [Goanet]Any one can be a SAINT (Sant Tukaram)
Hi Joe, The couplet "Moko Kahan ..." is by Kabir & it is in old Hindi ( I forget , whether , Khadi Boli or Braj Bhasha ) As far as I recollect the first four lines of the poem are: MOKO KAHAN DHUNDE RE BHAIYA ( Where are you searching for me , O Brother) MAIN TO TERE PAS MEIN ( I am next to you) NA MAI MANDIR , NA MAI MASJID (I am neither in the temple nor in the mosque) NA KABE NA KAILAS MEIN. ( Neither in Ka'bah nor in Kailas.) Regards, Thalmann. - Original Message - From: "JoeGoaUk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, March 29, 2004 3:19 AM Subject: [Goanet]Any one can be a SAINT (Sant Tukaram) > > Thanks Santosh, > > You are right it was not in hindi or for that matter > it was not in English/konkani either. > > Infact, the quoted line was a combination of both > Marathi and Hindi or else in hindi, it would have been > "..muje kaham dundo.." and not "..moko kaham dundo.." > I dont remember the first one or two words in Marathi, > that(combination) came from my hindi Teacher > (Mr.Subash Khobrekar) while at school early 80's. > > Sant Tukaram, a 16th century saint hailing from Pune > (maharastra). > > It seems you are not sure whether the same come from > Sant Tukaram, perhaps, you may check Tukaram.com etc > and come back with the exact wordings in marathi and I > am sure, you being hindu, it will be lot easier and > quicker for you to locate the excerp (from abhang). > > Thanks > joe > > Quote: > > Sant Tukaram said.. > " moko kaham dundo, meim to tere passi hum" > "Why looking for me every where when I am very next to > you" > " Hanv tuje lagxinch astana, Maka inga-tinga kiteak > sodtai?" > > > > = > http://in.groups.yahoo.com/group/GOAN-NRI/ > > > > > > ___ > WIN FREE WORLDWIDE FLIGHTS - nominate a cafe in the Yahoo! Mail Internet Cafe Awards www.yahoo.co.uk/internetcafes > > ## # Send submissions for Goanet to [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # PLEASE remember to stay on-topic (related to Goa), and avoid top-posts # # More details on Goanet at http://joingoanet.shorturl.com/ # # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ##
Re: [Goanet]Open Letter to Chief Minister Manohar Parrikar (by MayabhushanNagvenkar)
Let us all make telephone calls to Dr. Claude Alvares' phone and let us all get looped on to the police recorder. The Govt. will get "data " more than it can chew , and poor ASI Yeram may at least be able to get his suspension revoked by being instrumental in getting a flood of "data" for the govt. Regards, Thalmann. - Original Message - From: "Goasuraj" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Sunday, March 28, 2004 8:52 AM Subject: Re: [Goanet]Open Letter to Chief Minister Manohar Parrikar (by MayabhushanNagvenkar) > Dear Mayabhushan, > > Good to hear from you through this "Open Letter" a fitting letter to a > fitting RSS dictator. > > What is ASI VK Yeram ? > > This Yeram character walks into our Party Office at Mapusa a week before all > this Yeram affair exploded into Goa's new Emperor's face. > Capt Gerald Fernandes, who is the General Secretary of the Party was present > in the office at this time. > Immediately after Yeram left, he told me coolly that our phone is now looped > to the police recorder. > When I sought more info on his statement, he explained thus: > > Claude Alvares' phone is sure to be tapped, both office as well as his > residence. By the very fact that you have made contact with a tapped phone, > you are also on the loop. Yeram has seen to it. > > Since there was no need for Yeram to come to our Party office to make a call > to Claude Alvares, I tend to believe what Gerald has said. And there is > absolutely no doubt that our phone is tapped, including my residence phone. > Because, we get clicking sounds which were absent before. > > Floriano Lobo > goasuraj > > ## # Send submissions for Goanet to [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # PLEASE remember to stay on-topic (related to Goa), and avoid top-posts # # More details on Goanet at http://joingoanet.shorturl.com/ # # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ##
Re: [Goanet]Cathlolic Names.
Bond: Time for Cecil Pinto to get into action ;-) On a more serious note, I think your comments below, while entertaining and certainly not untrue, are also unfair! For one, the names reflect the changing influences on a tiny society at the periphery of the planet, as it were. Just how some sections of Goans shifted from Konkani to Portuguese to English or Marathi... all in the space of less than a century. The "good old days" had some equally ludicrous names ... but probably there weren't as many medical formulations around then to remind you of the oddities. At the end of the day, I think we Goans are caught badly in a 'good old days' trip, which might sound nostalgic when juxtaposed against fading (not-so-pleasant) memories, but simply isn't realistic. Thought-provoking post all the same... FN On Sun, 4 Apr 2004, Sarabond wrote: > Catholic names. > > Good old days we heard of the names like Assumsao, Dolorosa, Pantaleao, > Mingelinho, Conssecao, Purificacao etc, > Later came the names of every possible saint. i.e.- Peter, Paul, Steven, > Anthony, Jeronimo, Lawrence, Elizabeth, etc. > Soon they became short names Tony, Jerry, Lawry/Larry, Liza, etc. > Than cames the British & Americans names like - Kurt, Berthy, Betty, Kim, > Sam, Kennedy, Clinton, Raisa, Maggie, etc. > Followd by Indianized Prakash, Sanjay, Sanjeet, Sandeep, Vijay, Vivek, > Sonia, Indira, Jyothi, so on. > But now we see & hear a lot of names made up and they sound like medical > formulas like Joma made from Joseph & Maria, > Brunelle - (Bruno& Nelita), Ausmaton - (Austin, Maria and village saint Sant > Anton), Cosnita - (Cosme & Anita), Savia (Savio & Maria) and the list will > go on. > I am sure there will be many more ways that this naming pattern has come to > stay. > Would be nice to see if our netters could produce & share more like this > that would be interesting to read. > > - Alfonso Bond Braganza ## # Send submissions for Goanet to [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # PLEASE remember to stay on-topic (related to Goa), and avoid top-posts # # More details on Goanet at http://joingoanet.shorturl.com/ # # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ##
[Goanet]GSIDC on the rampage
Curses come home to roost. The Ponjekars relaxed while the Panaji-based Goa State Infrastructure Development Corporation Limited undertook projects all over Goa. Now GSIDC Ltd. has come down to the home turf: cutting 'old' trees in the 'old' GMC compound, demolishing buildings, changing the classification of land, converting old 'heritage' sites into new 'real estate', cloning the new Patto bridge[ albeit 'in' the river, not 'across' it!], demolishing the 'old' football stadium at Campal and trodding rough-shod over the sentiments of the 'old' people living with old memories of a quaint old tow that was Panjim. Ha-ji, it is now Panaji. Celine Dion of the 'Titanic fame sings the following lines" When you want the most,there is no easy way out.When you question me over simple actions, I do not know what to say..." It is a refrain that the GSIDC and the state Government seem to have adopted. Like the Backstreet Boys they seem to say, "But I want it that way!" The people of Goa...you and I...may have our aspirations echoed in the words of the very same Backstreet Boys when they sing, " I don't care who you are ,where you are from, what you do ...as long as you love me." Ditto for the trees, the birds and the bees. To many souls like me, it is a hope that things will come back to normal, that this 'bhooth' of four-laning the Dayanand Bandodkar Marg that possessed the Goa Government a year before the Goa IFFI was even conceived, will be exorcised in the election booths of Panaji Assembly segment. No , not by voting for Dr.Willy[except for those who would vote for him anyway] but by voting to help an inconsequential candidate to save face, if not his deposit. Let the MLA of Panaji, who is the Chairman of the Infrastructure Corporation, know that the electorate cannot be taken for granted. That, though the electorate is not asking for his recall or wanting to displace any particular candidate, it can send a message that it is not too pleased with the dictatorial attitude. It will depend on the Ponjekars, if they feel strongly about the city, to send the message. TOGETHER FOR PANJIM. If not, let them not cry hoarse in the streets or indulge in the backroom whispers. To borrow a phrase from my friend Ethel, 'Be ready to stand up to what you believe in'... and be counted by the EVMs.Do not sleep at home on 26 April and consider it a 'protest'...go out and vote. Its now a countdown to the counting on 12 May. A poor show in Panaji will be as clear a message as a good showing in Salcete. No party should take the electorate for granted. Let the political parties in Goa sing with Roxette, " It must have been love, but its over now. It's where the water flows; it's where the wind blowsbut I lost it somehow." MGP has learnt its lesson the hard way. No point going soft on the others. Perform or perish. We can then sing with Bon Jovi, " It's my life; it's now or never. I ain't going to live forever. It's my life!" Viva Goa. Miguel --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.543 / Virus Database: 337 - Release Date: 11/22/2003 ## # Send submissions for Goanet to [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # PLEASE remember to stay on-topic (related to Goa), and avoid top-posts # # More details on Goanet at http://joingoanet.shorturl.com/ # # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ##
[Goanet]Cathlolic Names.
Catholic names. Good old days we heard of the names like Assumsao, Dolorosa, Pantaleao, Mingelinho, Conssecao, Purificacao etc, Later came the names of every possible saint. i.e.- Peter, Paul, Steven, Anthony, Jeronimo, Lawrence, Elizabeth, etc. Soon they became short names Tony, Jerry, Lawry/Larry, Liza, etc. Than cames the British & Americans names like - Kurt, Berthy, Betty, Kim, Sam, Kennedy, Clinton, Raisa, Maggie, etc. Followd by Indianized Prakash, Sanjay, Sanjeet, Sandeep, Vijay, Vivek, Sonia, Indira, Jyothi, so on. But now we see & hear a lot of names made up and they sound like medical formulas like Joma made from Joseph & Maria, Brunelle - (Bruno& Nelita), Ausmaton - (Austin, Maria and village saint Sant Anton), Cosnita - (Cosme & Anita), Savia (Savio & Maria) and the list will go on. I am sure there will be many more ways that this naming pattern has come to stay. Would be nice to see if our netters could produce & share more like this that would be interesting to read. - Alfonso Bond Braganza ## # Send submissions for Goanet to [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # PLEASE remember to stay on-topic (related to Goa), and avoid top-posts # # More details on Goanet at http://joingoanet.shorturl.com/ # # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ##
[Goanet]On Assimilating Gods.
Ancient Ugarit, 10,000 BC to 2000 BC, covered what today is Turkey, Syria and much of the Levant. It's last three kings were Ammitamru, Ammit and Ammurapi. Chief god EL shared the skies with Shaddei and Barith, with Baal, Ashera and Yam playing lesser roles. They posed a challenge to the newly arrived band of Abraham's Hebrews from Ur(Basra today!). The problem was solved by giving their own god, Yahweh, the titles of El, Shaddei and Barith: why eliminate the gods of Canaan when one could just as well assimilate !! The Prophets complained, the folk went further: Ashera was married off to Yahweh - even a god could use a consort ! A common slogan was "whose land, his god, make it Baal"; call it Co-existance! Ugaritic worship was essentially drunken orgies, the Hebrew response was predictable: women were barred from temples! Their capital was Shamra, Latakia in Syria, today; a word to Marlon - stick to Vagator !! eric. __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business $15K Web Design Giveaway http://promotions.yahoo.com/design_giveaway/ ## # Send submissions for Goanet to [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # PLEASE remember to stay on-topic (related to Goa), and avoid top-posts # # More details on Goanet at http://joingoanet.shorturl.com/ # # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ##
[Goanet]Four-laning not for IFFI
Dear Netters, A new organisation is in the throes of birth while the GSIDC plays midwife to a number of children of doubtful parentage. Whether it is the bridge re-construction at Rawanfond-Margao, erection of bridges elsewhere or the demolition of the structures around the old GMC, the Goa State Infrastructure Development Corporation Ltd seems to be a law unto itself. Though its last name is "Limited", it seems to enjoy unlimited powers[ got a change of zone in the ODP for prime land it does not own; ditto for cutting of trees,it seems],finance[ it is set to spend more money in crores than there are crows on D.B.Road] and patronage. It is a frankenstein version of the PWD. Cutting trees, it can do with impunity. If PMCA wants to see a tree cutting licence, GSIDC can get it within hours.This when GSIDC has its office in EDC building ,Panaji, and the Tree Officer is at Ponda and the concerned officer to inspect the tree is in Panaji. A Form 'A' is obtained from the Forest Office, typed, signed, a sketch/plan of the GMC complex is made to show the position of the trees is made, an affidavit is executed, the form is sent to Ponda,inwarded, processed, outwarded, despatched, inwarded in Panaji, inspection of the trees is carried out, report made out,outwarded , sent to Ponda, inwarded, Licence in Form 'B' typed out,outwarded, despatched and received in Panaji.all in a matter of hours. Only cancer cells multiply at a similar speed. Yet, if PMCA wants to see GSIDC's plans for the four-laning or the Multiplex, GSIDC has no staff to show these documents. At least some Directors of the GSIDC are congressmen[ or erstwhile congressmen] and can proudly quote Nehru, "Goans are peculair people." Goa receives about 15 lakh tourists in six months. Hardly any touristcomplains about bad roads in Goa. Goa is a leisure resort and no one is in a tearing hurry, except the poor souls whose two wheelers rev up faster than even their hormones. 15,000 delegates to a ten day film festival are unlikely to be in a hurry to go to the KTC bus stand ...or Dona Paula... during IFFI. So who really needs the four lane road from Patto to Dona Paula?? We are playing 'God' and messing up with the Mandovi River, cutting trees and trodding on the people's sentiments. Difficult to say which is the worst offence. NRIs wishing to develop their properties in Goa, to cut trees, transport wood or build bridges with their neighbours, would be well advised to contract such works to GSIDC. There is no match for this agency if you are in a hurry. What's sauce for the goose , is sauce for the gander. It cannot get better than this. Do not read news items like these: PANJIM TREES AT CHOPPER'S MERCY: Six trees have been marked for felling at the Old Goa Medical College site at Campal in Panaji sans any permission, according to activists of People's Movement for Civic Action. (GT) CM FEELS THE HEAT, MEETS RESIDENTS: Realising that the heat was building up against the manner in which the government was going ahead with mega projects for hosting the International Film Festival India later this year, Chief Minister Manohar Parrikar on March 28 held two rounds of interactions with the residents of Miramar and Campal separately. The damage control measure was viewed as an important exercise to assuage the feelings of the residents and to build confidence among the citizens that the government is "open" to discuss IFFI-related matter. (H) CM ASSURES OF RESTORING CAMPAL STADIUM BY '05: Chief Minister Manohar Parrikar has assured citizens that the Campal Stadium would be restored to its original status by December 2005. Clarifying his government's stand, Parrikar said, "The demolition is temporary." Under no circumstances does the government want to convert the Campal stadium into some other structure, he said, promising to build one of the best stadiums in its place with all the required facilities. (GT) Go to GSIDC. Satisfaction guaranteed. Go for it. Our first citizen has. Viva Goa. Miguel --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.543 / Virus Database: 337 - Release Date: 11/21/2003 ## # Send submissions for Goanet to [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # PLEASE remember to stay on-topic (related to Goa), and avoid top-posts # # More details on Goanet at http://joingoanet.shorturl.com/ # # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ##
[Goanet]Findoll's newsletter: Staying Connected! (fwd)
-- Forwarded message -- April 2004 : Staying Connected! We've had a lot of enquiries recently about Net connectivity in Goa. After all, in today's networked world, that is probably the single-most important consideration when buying property, relocating, renting! So we did a bit of research and we're happy to inform you that Goa already has stepped into the broadband club! Broadband is already available in Panjim and will soon spread to the rest of the State. For now, it costs Rs. 5,000 for installation and a monthly rent of Rs. 995. That's not too great a price to pay for world-class connectivity in tiny Goa! Of course, for the rest of the State, we have regular ISDN and dial-up connectivity from BSNL and it's improving daily. Plus, Reliance services are getting better and better especially in the city centres. So, rest assured you can take a holiday or move to Goa and still stay connected! ~ Michael and Tomoko Lobo If you've put your property up for sale, there's a new rule you need to be aware of. You need an NOC from the PDA (Planning and Development Authority) before you can sign the sale deed. The whole procedure takes about 15 days and you'll get an NOC that's valid for 6 months. The procedure is quite simple really, although a little time-consuming. You need to fill a form (this can be collected at a PDA office), attach relevant property documents, submit it and wait for a PDA inspection. The rule applies only to those areas that come under the jurisdiction of the PDA. So check with your lawyer and make sure you organise the NOC, if it's applicable to your property. And buyers, remember your title documents won't be clear until the seller gives you the NOC from the PDA - if it's applicable to the property you're buying, of course. Check with your lawyer. As always, we have a slew of properties. This is the hot property of the month! More hot properties are at: www.homesgoa.com/Newsletter/April_2004.htm, and of course, on our website at www.homesgoa.com. There's lots more in our magazine too - it will be out on the stands by the 10th of April. So do remember to pick up a copy! Click here for the complete version of this newsletter on our website: http://www.homesgoa.com/Newsletter/April_2004.htm ## # Send submissions for Goanet to [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # PLEASE remember to stay on-topic (related to Goa), and avoid top-posts # # More details on Goanet at http://joingoanet.shorturl.com/ # # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ##
Re: [Goanet]Common Goan plants and trees...
Subject: [Goanet]Common Goan plants and trees... > URL : http://www.geocities.com/goagonsalves/GoanFlora > >References > 1. Killips, P, A guide to the flora and fauna of Goa (Orient Longman) > 2. Mukherjee, Pippa, Nature guides - Common trees of India (WWF) > 3. N L Bor & M B Raizada - Some beautiful Indian climbers and shrubs >(BNHS) > 4. Sahni, K C; The Book of Indian Trees (BNHS) Folks, Thanks for the info. It is better than nothing but I do wonder if anyone else attempted to access the website cited. I tried and failed. Hence my previous pleas to check urls before posting to any mailing list, please! Also I am surprised by the glaring omissions in the references: 1. Rao, R.S. Flora of Goa, Diu & Daman ... 2 vols. Botanical Survey of India. 1985. 2. Orta, Garcia. [Various works] 1563- [Various reprints and translations.] and a large number of Portuguese, Konkani and English language books. Cheers, Eddie Fernandes - Jorge wrote: >How come most of the names in Konkani ara TBD? Are the organisers not aware >of those names and want goanetters and others to provide them? ## # Send submissions for Goanet to [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # PLEASE remember to stay on-topic (related to Goa), and avoid top-posts # # More details on Goanet at http://joingoanet.shorturl.com/ # # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ##
[Goanet]THE ELECTION SCENARIO
Its election time. The predictions of the poll pundits may be more accurate. But as a voter one could make a few analysis about Goa's political scene Vis a Vis the forthcoming Lok Sabha elections. At least the North of Goa will not be gripped by poll fever, as the BJP has cleverly been able to ensure confusion and chaos within the opposition parties. Polling day may be hot and humid but we may not see any of the political heat that will prevail in most other states. As things stand today it should be a cakewalk for the BJP candidate from North Goa, my friend and fellow Ribandarite Mr. Sripad Naik. The situation in the South is still fluid with Ramakant Angle likely to edge Churchill Alemao. The Congress Party over the past few weeks could not come up with a single decent candidate for the North Goa seat. They all kept complaining of aches and pains. Physical or financial one can only guess. The party kept hoodwinking the public that one of the potential candidates needed medical clearance. The Congress party is already in doldrums. Its time to send all its MLA's with heart ailments on compulsory retirement. Goa's problems being very pressing we need good-hearted people to get this state moving in the right direction. It may look surprising as to how such a communal and fundamentalist party like the BJP was able to spread its roots so fast in Goa, a place where just a few years ago it could not have dreamt of making its presence felt. It would be worthwhile for all the leaders of various political parties to introspect and see as to how each one of them has for their selfish interests helped the BJP ride to power. The BJP's rise in Goa started with them mating the MGP. In the process they ate into the major chunk of the MGP vote leaving the party today in total disarray. The BIP later befriended Dr Willy De Souza who helped the party broaden its base. If Dr Jack Sequeira is the father of the Opinion poll, Dr Willy De Souza could be safely coined as the grand father of all political defections in Goa. Dr Willy has over the years crossed and criss-crossed political parties, gave birth to some and it was always to achieve his personal goals and satisfy his unflinching ego. His entire political career has evolved around I, Me and Mine syndrome. The BJP had conveniently cashed on Dr Willy 's weakness for power and even thrust upon him a post of cabinet rank as Vice Chairman of the Goa Planning Commission conveniently keeping him without any power but a symbolic position which the politically over mature politician only recently realised and gave up the position. A gesture a bit too late. Dr Willy is still playing to the BJP tunes and he knows with his age advancing he has nothing to lose. The one person who could be singularly responsible to permit Mr. Manohar Parrikar to ascend to the Chief Minister's chair is Francisco Sardinha who though claiming to be a woman's man got royally screwed up by the saffrons he so dearly befriended. And Mr. Parrikar timed it so well and allowed Sardinha to go on a kangaroo ride to Australia only to return to a kingdom without any power. The UGDP is another party that has allowed the BJP to further consolidate its position. Its secular intentions were in question when they decided to support the BJP. Issue based support or money based support it's for the people of Goa to judge. Pratapsingh Rane has had the last laugh. He is the Leader of Opposition but is under BJPs remote control. In the last assembly he managed to remain as Speaker and sleep on the disqualification petitions while Chief Minister Parrikar consolidated his position as Chief Minister. Even today he continues as Chairman of Kala Academy while his wife Vijaydevi continues to head the Bal Bhavan. Manohar Parrikar has been able to nurture and keep his agents and informants within the inner precincts of all political parties. In fact these elements are a bigger asset to Parrikar being in the other parties than having them officially in the BJP. They play to the saffron tunes anyway. Congress has to be blamed for its total state of disarray. It's Chief Ministers and ministers have amassed hoards of wealth and built their business empires within their short stints in office. What the Congress never was is communal but the current BJP regime besides being very corrupt is also so communal, which is a matter of great concern. It was expected that Vijay Mallya's Janata Party would have turned the election spirits high. But the King of good times may have rightly sensed that pouring the Kingfisher in Karnataka may be a wiser proposition to avoid the political hangover he may have had to undergo in Goa. I have had the privilege of interacting with all the Chief Minister's since Goa's liberation. I would say Goa's first Chief Minister Dayanand Bandodkar though not an IIT had all the wit, candor and skills a Chief Minister ought to have. He was a friend of the common man and a saviour for the Bahujan Sama
[Goanet]Hospitality in Pakistan
Hospitality in Pakistan This mail was originally from one Indian supporter who was at Karachi One Dayer, which India won, I thought of forwarding this mail, due to various mails in circulation about this historic series. Seb = Hi, This mail has nothing to do with work. just wanted to share certain overwhelming experiences. Had been to Karachi for the 1st one Dayer on Saturday. 1. Imagine 39,990 Pakistanis & 50 of us Indians cheering lustily 'for' each other, throwing chocolates at us !!. Quite a few were carrying the flags of both countries imaginatively stitched together. Then they all stood to give a standing ovation to the Indian cricket team ! 2. Guy on the street selling 'bhuttas' refused to accept money saying that we were 'mehmaan' in their country !! 3. people rushing to shake our hands on the streets & asking us to come to their home for dinner 4. Restaurant owners refusing to accept the bill payment after coming to know that we were from India 5. Everybody we met & we met quite a few, had some relative staying in India. 6. Star plus is the most favourite channel in Karachi 7. There was a TV star called Heena ?? who was sitting in the stadium, one Pakistani put up a impromptu banner saying "Heena,will u marry me ?"!! 8. Shops gave us 40 to 50% discount ...India again 9. Taxis, autos, army guys..the list is endless...everywhere loads of courtesy, respect.more than we would get in our own country ! It is really sad that we have an impression of that country that is so negative. I shudder to think of the plight of Pakistanis who would come to India when the Indo-pak matches will happen here. Sad, that we consider ourselves 'secular' & yet will spare no thought before making negative statements on that country. It's sad but true, this experience teaches one that.."Perception is not reality". - HAVE A NICE DAY - ## # Send submissions for Goanet to [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # PLEASE remember to stay on-topic (related to Goa), and avoid top-posts # # More details on Goanet at http://joingoanet.shorturl.com/ # # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ##
[Goanet]Goa: A daughter's story
This review appeared in The Hindu Sunday Magazine on April 4. Apparent divide, actual bridges Blurb: The stereotypes imposed upon Goa and its people by Hindi cinema, charter tourism, and fanatical Indianisers are all dispelled by Maria Aurora Couto's treatment. A review by Ranjit Hoskote. MARIA AURORA COUTOs Goa: A Daughters Story is an extraordinary narrative that weaves together autobiography and collective history, bringing to light a rich social and cultural tapestry little known outside its locus. Couto takes, as her demanding subject, the complex story of the Goan identity as a product of the colonial encounter between the Indic and Iberian cultures, launched by this circumstance on a trajectory distinct from his neighbours in British-ruled India. Goa and its people have long had to suffer the foolish stereotypes imposed upon them by Hindi cinema, charter tourism, and fanatical Indianisers: the pernicious myths of the easy-going Goan drunkard, Goa as a kingdom of sun and sand, Goan culture as a European aberration in an Indian environment, are all dispelled by Coutos treatment, which is distinguished by an elegance and sensitivity, a felicity of touch that masks the labour of archival research and fieldwork. Coutos inquiry leads her into the records of the Portuguese colonial administration, the reminiscences of the fast-vanishing generation of mandarins, scholars and activists who grew up in colonial Goa. She re-creates vividly for us the lives of thinkers inspired by the drama that was the European Enlightenment. She imparts a flesh-and-blood reality to the generic bugaboo of conversion, attesting to the strategic, yet traumatic, choices made by communities faced with the Hobsonian inquisitors choice between preservation of religious identity and loss of social and economic prestige. The title of Coutos book holds its key gesture: the author speaks as the inheritor of various legacies, heirloom dilemmas, family tragedies, and sources of hope and regeneration. It is both a meditation on the persistences and lacunae of collective memory, and also a compelling account of the development of a private self through the momentous passage from colonialism to the post-colonial period. As her fathers daughter, Couto paints a moving portrait of her father, a man devoted to the refinement of sensibility, but at odds with conventional society; she memorialises the graceful, vanished milieu of cultivated intellectuals and gifted artists in Goa and Dharwar, where she grew up during the 1950s. As the daughter of a particular community, whose way of life was forever altered by the arrival of the Portuguese in 1510 A.D., Couto reflects on the Saraswat Brahmins of Goa, descendants of Kashmiri scholar-priests who became influential landowners and mandarins, and were locked into a complicated sequence of negotiations with the Portuguese colonialists. By contrast to the simple-minded tale of ruthless conquistadors thrusting sword and cross upon hapless locals, Couto unfolds an intricate fabric of social and religious transactions, demonstrating how concessions alternated with impositions, force was succeeded by relative tolerance; and if conversion to Catholicism was used as a basis to divide Hindu families by the colonial administration, through differentials of property transfer, those who remained unconverted and marginalised staged a comeback through the espousal of trade. One lasting result of this uneven rhythm of upheaval and tranquillity was that, between the 16th and 18th Centuries, one section of Goas Saraswat Brahmin elite converted to the Catholic faith, while others crossed the river into North and South Kanara, or sailed to Kerala, or migrated to the Maratha territories, to preserve their religious freedom in exile. Sharing Coutos ethnic background as I do (her ancestors remained behind and were baptised; my ancestors crossed the river with their gods), I am amazed at the honesty and courage with which she has chosen to address the theme of conversion, in a public sphere dominated by the forces of aggressive majoritarianism. Living at the cusp of twinned religious and cultural narratives, Couto investigates the processes of self-definition and self-renewal, in response to the historical crises of migration, invasion, conversion and flight. With her, we trace the gradual assimilation of the Catholic Saraswat Brahmin into the Portuguese language and European world-view; the Hindu Saraswat Brahmins slower entry, shadowed by insecurity, into that world; the changing positions of the Portuguese as the notion of divinely sanctioned kingship yielded before a humanist conception of the body politic. And so we come to an appreciation of the distinctive character of Goan culture, in which the major divides are also the most enduring bridges. In conversation with Couto, Dr. Xencora Camotim (the name is a Lusitanian version of Shankar
[Goanet]RE: Orissa Bajrang Dal
(Nicholas Fernandes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: The hatred for christians in India by the hindus should be known all over the world.) This is too sweeping a statement, Mr Fernandes. You've apparently used the word Hindu to encompass the vast majority of people like me who're no Bajarang Dali eggheads by any stretch of imagination. I'm offended by your knee-jerk reaction. Regards, RKN _ Post Classifieds on MSN classifieds. http://go.msnserver.com/IN/44045.asp Buy and Sell on MSN Classifieds. ## # Send submissions for Goanet to [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # PLEASE remember to stay on-topic (related to Goa), and avoid top-posts # # More details on Goanet at http://joingoanet.shorturl.com/ # # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ##
[Goanet]Flight Info (direct to Dabolim)
There are plenty of direct flights to Dabolim (some are non-stop and others halt at BAH for one hour for re-fuelling giving u a chance an hour of Duty free shopping) Hurry up!! these flights fly till end of this month and there may be just outbound (one way) early May. Chartered flts flying from Manchester and London Gatwick. Going very cheap, there was one just for £450 for 3 weeks with 3 star hoter accommodation bed & breakfast basis. Two weeks were £319 and one week £279 all returns. No Indian passport holders allowed unless they travel with their european passport holders spouses (however this was to change, dont know if changed already, where any Indian (NRI) passport holder is allowed to travel on his own) One way ticket to dabolim, one can buy for just £99 or less I believe, there are no other direct flts opeating (at least from UK).. Air India, where one has to wait in transit for up to 12hrs bombay. Please come back if you need further info on this but I do not sell tickets. joe = http://in.groups.yahoo.com/group/GOAN-NRI/ ___ WIN FREE WORLDWIDE FLIGHTS - nominate a cafe in the Yahoo! Mail Internet Cafe Awards www.yahoo.co.uk/internetcafes ## # Send submissions for Goanet to [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # PLEASE remember to stay on-topic (related to Goa), and avoid top-posts # # More details on Goanet at http://joingoanet.shorturl.com/ # # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ##
Re: [Goanet]Re: ORISSA: Bajrang Dal burns effigy of Christ (LEADS)
I don't think events such as these should be interpreted as "hatred for Christians in India by the Hindus". It is just one small (though very influential) and deeply politicised that has been sporadically deploying religious infighting as a means of ascending to power, and retaining it. In any case, a response that is loaded with communal logic will only help take such campaigns forward. There are a surprising number of secular individuals across India, of all religions. The challenge is how to build bridges to fight intolerance of all kinds. FN On Sat, 3 Apr 2004, Bosco - Goanet Volunteer wrote: > On Fri, 26 Mar 2004 14:59:50 -0800 (PST), nicholas fernandes > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > The hatred for christians in India by the hindus should be known all > over the world. > > > > "Frederick Noronha (FN)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > [Elections are near, and issues need to be raked up, I guess. -FN] > > Bajrang Dal burns effigy of Christ (LEADS) > > >From Indo-Asian News Service > > Bhubaneswar, Nov 21 (IANS) Tension has gripped an Orissa district after > members of the Hindu radical group Bajrang Dal burnt an effigy of > Christ to protest religious conversions. ## # Send submissions for Goanet to [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # PLEASE remember to stay on-topic (related to Goa), and avoid top-posts # # More details on Goanet at http://joingoanet.shorturl.com/ # # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ##
