[Goanet-news]13 APR 2004: GOACOM DAILY NEWS CLIPPINGS
GOACOM DAILY NEWS CLIPPINGS 13 APRIL 2004 GOACOM VIDEO NEWSCAST at www.goacom.com/news goacomNews09 Apr 04 H I G H L I G H T S -- Vested interests creating hurdles for preparation of IFFI: CM -- Sripad Naik-Willy main contenders for N.Goa seat -- Churchill-Angle to battle it out in South -- Good Friday services in Goa. UNEMPLOYMENT FEARED OVER TRANSFER OF MPT OPERATIONS: The Mormugao Port Truck and Shovel Owners Association have objected to the transfer of shore handling operations of coal/coke from berth No.10 and 11 to berth No.5A and 6A. The association has complained that this move will throw many persons out of their jobs. The association in a letter to the MPT chairman, Mr PK Mohanty, and Chief Minister, Mr Manohar Parrikar, have sought an appropriate decision on humanitarian grounds saying that the stoppage of coal will ruin many families. (NT) PM TO HALT AT DABOLIM: Prime Minister Atal Bihari Vajpayee would make a brief halt at Goa today en route to Belgaum and Bangalore. Vajpayee would halt at the Dabolim airport on his way to Belgaum and also on his return journey to proceed to Bangalore. (GT) CEO CLARIFIES ON POLL HOLIDAY: The office of the Chief Electoral Officer at Altinho in Panaji has clarified that a holiday don 26 April 2004 may be declared only for the shift during which poll is to be taken, provided it is ensured that there is sufficient time gap between the close of the poll and commencement of shift duty. (GT) BJP, CONGRESS TUSSLE IN SOUTH: With just thirteen days left for the April 26 Lok Sabha polls, the picture emerging out vis-à-vis the electoral race in South Goa, the BJP and the Congress Party are heading for a keen battle for this parliamentary seat. The BJP seems to be going all out to retain the seat, which the party won in 1999.Unlike last time, when disunity cost the party dearly, the Congress is putting up united efforts to enthuse the party rank and file to regain the seat, which was once considered its bastion. Both BJP's Ramakant Angle and Congress' Churchill Alemao are former MPs and therefore not new to South Goa politics. (H) CPI RIDICULES BJP, CONGRESS: Stating that the BJP and the Congress are no solutions to people's problems in Goa and in the country, Communist Party of India has urged people to make victorious their candidates, Christopher Fonseca and Raju Mangeshkar, in the ensuing Lok Sabha polls. Addressing a press conference in Panaji on April 12, Fonseca said that while Congress has made a mess in Goa, the BJP has let down the hopes of people with its anti-poor and anti-labour policies and schemes which are nothing put political gimmicks. (GT) RANE DECLINES: Leader of Opposition, Pratapsing Rane, has declined to head the 13-member election campaign committee constituted by the NCP-Congress alliance for the Panaji Lok Sabha seat but has extended his full co-operation to work for the NCP Goa president, Dr Wilfred de Souza's success. (GT) ISRAELI HELD WITH DRUGS: The Anti-Narcotic Cell of the Goa Police on Monday arrested an Israeli, Amit Daka (33), on drug charges. The ANC party led by PI Uday Naik found Amit in position of 162 grams of charas and six grams of cocaine during a raid on his rented house at Sorontto in Anjuna. (H) COMPUTERISED SURVEY PLANS ANNOY: The citizens of Margao are dissatisfied with the computerized survey plans issued by the department of settlement and land records. The citizens, who applied for survey plans, allege that besides the delays, they also had to pay extra ever since the department commenced issuing computerized survey plans. (NT) POWER PLAYS TRUANT DURING EASTER: Devotees attending mass on Good Friday had to suffer great hardships when the entire city (Ponda) went without power for at least two hours. This problem of irregular power supply continued till Easter Sunday. (GT) CUSTOMER SERVICE CENTRE AT SIOLIM: The Goa telecom authorities have set up a customer service centre at Siolim telephone exchange. The subscribers can now pay their telephone bills, purchase VCC cards, recharge mobile vouchers and Sancharnet cards at this centre. The bookings for mobile and landline connections can also be done at this centre. (NT) MORMUGAO MAMLATDAR ESCAPES UNHURT: Two persons on election duty were injured while four others-including Mormugao Mamlatdar Anthony D'Souza-escaped unhurt, when their vehicle collided with a track along the four-lane highway at Zuarinagar on Monday evening. (H) KTC BUS FALLS INTO DITCH: A Vasco-bound KTC bus went off the road on the Chicalim slope, yesterday evening and fell into a ditch on the road side. Fortunately, there were no casualties. (NT) NO TOAST FOR CAJU FENI: I feel that it is possible to produce good quality caju feni if the basic process of fruit harvesting, juicing, distilling and storing are made more hygienic. Today the prices of liquor in Goa are about comparable with other states, so the old attraction is no longer there. No, if only caju feni were not to stink
[Goanet]RE: Sonia Gandhi - COULD THIS BE TRUE?
Hi Jose, I have had my own brush with Indian Politics and Politicians in the late 70s. When my hostel Nehru Hall at IIT Kharagpur was celebrating its silver jubilee, I took up the challenge of digging up records of the past residents and contacting them for donations. One old record I found was that of Ajit Singh (Electronics Engineering) whose address then was UP Chief Minister's Bungalow, Lucknow. Well, the father of this guy was Charan Singh who was now the Indian Dty Prime Minister. We also found that Ajit Singh was resident in the USA and that he was a Computer Industry Executive. When we leaked this into the Indian Press through the India Today magazine, Charan Singh said that he had disowned his son for living abroad and that he considered himself the father of only two daughters. When I mentioned this incident to a group of Jats while traveling through UP by train from Calcutta to Delhi, I nearly got beaten up by them - They wouldn't believe that Choudhary Charan Singh had a son ! Some years later, when Charan Singh was in ill-health, his son Ajit Singh returned to India - was given a rousing reception as the successor to Choudhary Charan Singh's Jat constituency in UP - he has since jumped through all the political parties in India and still carries his father's mantle for the Jats of UP! By the way the new Archbishop of Goa Felipe Neri Ferrao is a really very impressive and progressive intellectual - very different from the old guys like Gracias and Gonsalves - he shared with me some keen insights and his visions for the harmonious future of the Church in Goa when I met him in 2000 - They could'nt have fond a better Archbishop - he'll probably be fast-tracked to Cardinal! Best Regards, Carmo -Original Message- From: Jose Colaco [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, April 12, 2004 4:36 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Sonia Gandhi - COULD THIS BE TRUE? --- Carmo . wrote: To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, April 10, 2004 3:35 PM Subject: FW: COULD THIS BE TRUE? Bits of this have been circulated at various times in the past, this is the first time someone has sent me this (comprehensive) version - the bit about Sonia's having studied English at a sidey school in Cambridge (and NOT at Cambridge Univ as is generally believed) is borne out by her recent declaration at the time of filing her papers for election. As to the rest...read it for whatever its worth! Dear Carmo, Good to hear from you. Greetings for the Easter Season. Let me say this upfront. Having watched a number of Indian politicians and politics in India from a VERY close range, I am pleased to have a very healthy DISrespect for them. I personally think that Maneka is a better politician than Sonia - BUT this anti-Sonia campaign is nothing BUT politics. Some of the biggest proponents of his anti-Sonia tirade are on RECORD as being anti-Mother Teresa, anti Francis Xavier anti-John Paul II. AND we have Catholic Goans who specialize in writing anti-Catholic posts...but they will NOT balance it by writing FAIRLY about everybody...only anti-Catholics. Do you know WHO the anti-SFX, anti-John Paul, anti-Sonia and anti-Mother Teresa folks like to quote most? look it upand you will know. Sojust remember - it's about POLITRICKS and ANTI-CATHOLIC hatred!! (WHYjust think of what Catholics did to education in India what education did to the wretched Caste System) Remember now. politicians will do ANYTHING to get rid of the opposition. ANYTHING!!.and then pretend to be SAINTS. This latest Sonia/Cambridge spat is related to a document typed out (by some clerk) in late 2003 to indicate that Sonia had an English Certificate from Cabridge Univ. When this error was pointed out - the Congress (corrupt as it is - like the BJP) corrected the error. Her OFFICIAL biography other sites reveal that She WAS studying at a language school in Cambridge when she met Rajiv. Having said that, I strongly believe that Sonia should take her family OUT of India. Indian politics is not decent people. good wishes jc Sonia Gandhi was born in 1946 near Turin, Italy, to a working-class family, and spent her childhood in that region. Her connection with India developed when she met Rajiv Gandhi, the elder son of Indira Gandhi, at a language school in Cambridge, England. They were married in 1968, and Sonia settled in India with her husband. http://www.soniagandhi.org/Biography.htm Sonia met Rajiv Gandhi in Cambridge during 1960s when the former Prime Minister was studying at the famous British University. They were married in 1968 after three years of courtship which began in a Greek restaurant in the university town. http://www.infoplease.com/ce6/people/A0820143.html Gandhi, Sonia, 1946-, Indian politician, b. Turin, Italy, as Sonia Maino. She met Rajiv Gandhi in 1965 when they were students in Cambridge, England. They
[Goanet]Re: Sonia Gandhi - COULD THIS BE TRUE?
--- Carmo . wrote: To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, April 10, 2004 3:35 PM Subject: FW: COULD THIS BE TRUE? Bits of this have been circulated at various times in the past, this is the first time someone has sent me this (comprehensive) version - the bit about Sonia's having studied English at a sidey school in Cambridge (and NOT at Cambridge Univ as is generally believed) is borne out by her recent declaration at the time of filing her papers for election. As to the rest...read it for whatever its worth! Dear Carmo, Good to hear from you. Greetings for the Easter Season. Let me say this upfront. Having watched a number of Indian politicians and politics in India from a VERY close range, I am pleased to have a very healthy DISrespect for them. I personally think that Maneka is a better politician than Sonia - BUT this anti-Sonia campaign is nothing BUT politics. Some of the biggest proponents of his anti-Sonia tirade are on RECORD as being anti-Mother Teresa, anti Francis Xavier anti-John Paul II. AND we have Catholic Goans who specialize in writing anti-Catholic posts...but they will NOT balance it by writing FAIRLY about everybody...only anti-Catholics. Do you know WHO the anti-SFX, anti-John Paul, anti-Sonia and anti-Mother Teresa folks like to quote most? look it upand you will know. Sojust remember - it's about POLITRICKS and ANTI-CATHOLIC hatred!! (WHYjust think of what Catholics did to education in India what education did to the wretched Caste System) Remember now. politicians will do ANYTHING to get rid of the opposition. ANYTHING!!.and then pretend to be SAINTS. This latest Sonia/Cambridge spat is related to a document typed out (by some clerk) in late 2003 to indicate that Sonia had an English Certificate from Cabridge Univ. When this error was pointed out - the Congress (corrupt as it is - like the BJP) corrected the error. Her OFFICIAL biography other sites reveal that She WAS studying at a language school in Cambridge when she met Rajiv. Having said that, I strongly believe that Sonia should take her family OUT of India. Indian politics is not decent people. good wishes jc Sonia Gandhi was born in 1946 near Turin, Italy, to a working-class family, and spent her childhood in that region. Her connection with India developed when she met Rajiv Gandhi, the elder son of Indira Gandhi, at a language school in Cambridge, England. They were married in 1968, and Sonia settled in India with her husband. http://www.soniagandhi.org/Biography.htm Sonia met Rajiv Gandhi in Cambridge during 1960s when the former Prime Minister was studying at the famous British University. They were married in 1968 after three years of courtship which began in a Greek restaurant in the university town. http://www.infoplease.com/ce6/people/A0820143.html Gandhi, Sonia, 1946, Indian politician, b. Turin, Italy, as Sonia Maino. She met Rajiv Gandhi in 1965 when they were students in Cambridge, England. They were married in 1968 and settled in his family home in India. http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/south_asia/3546851.stm Originally from Turin, Italy, she met her future husband when she was a language student in Cambridge, England. __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Tax Center - File online by April 15th http://taxes.yahoo.com/filing.html ## # Send submissions for Goanet to [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # PLEASE remember to stay on-topic (related to Goa), and avoid top-posts # # More details on Goanet at http://joingoanet.shorturl.com/ # # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ##
Re: [Goanet]Gilbert and denial of truth
Gilbert, You have yet to provide verifiable evidence for your claim of the numbers involved in the alleged Manglorean holocaust. Furthermore, your thesis is fundamentally flawed, because a holocaust suggests the Mangloreans were targetted by Tipu because of their religion. Again, here are is what is generally know and not disputed: 1) Tipu did attack the Manglorean catholics. What is not known or well accepted is the number of Magloreans killed. 2) Tipu's army was heavily supported by Catholic France in his struggle against the British. If we were to use your logic, can we presumably conclude that the Vatican was fundamentally responsible for the attack?! 3) The Manglorean christians lived peacefully for decades under Tipu and Tipu's fathers rule. 4) The manglorean christians decided to switch their allegience to the British and therefore constituted a threat to his kingdom. 5) The Coorgs who were a fiercely independent clan of mostly nature worshipers, were also subject to attacks by Tipu. However, yet again, the reason for the attacks by Tipu was that the Coorgs decided to make financial agreements with the British, rather than because of their religious beliefs. One will note that the Coorgs later went on to assume positions of prominent power in British India's coffee trade and armed forces. 5) Tipu has many hindu princes who held prominent positions in his kingdom. He was also involved in the restoration of many hindu temples. None of these broad, well accepted facts provides any communal motive for Tipu's attack on the Mangloreans. This is quite far removed from your unsubstantiated claim of a Manglorean holocaust! But then again, we have also witnessed your claims denying that churches were built on top of temples - even after substantial evidence was provided to you. Lets stick to facts rather than communal based opinion shall we? Marlon --- Gilbert Lawrence [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Marlon, Thanks for reading the part III of the inquisition in Goa and perhaps the other two parts on this episode of Goa's history. Your post was in response to the plight and suffering of the Manglorean (former Goan) Catholics in North Canara. Your rather long post is a narration about your impressions of Tippu's rule. It does not give details about the Manglorean episode in 1784 in Seringapatam. It may be humorous to you but it is insanity to me to wipe out an entire population because allegedly few leaders switched sides. And we are constantly attacking the Catholics for the Goan inquisition. Frankly you have made my point.:=)) Compared to Tippu- a. k.a. the tiger of Mysore, the Portuguese were pussy cats. :=)) ## # Send submissions for Goanet to [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # PLEASE remember to stay on-topic (related to Goa), and avoid top-posts # # More details on Goanet at http://joingoanet.shorturl.com/ # # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ##
[Goanet]Re: Santosh and the Manglorean Holocaust
Gilbert Lawrence [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Gilbert's response: For you to state that Mohan Prabhu's and the Manglorean claim of their holocaust in Seringapatam is 'unsubstantiated and a fabrication' is to follow the path of those who claim that the Jews made up their holocaust history. Gilbert is now making false statements, not only about what Mohan Prabhu has written, but also about what Tariq and I have said regarding the above issue. I have never stated that Mohan Prabhu's claims are unsubstantiated or fabricated. I have only stated that Gilbert's claims belong to this category. Gilbert's claims are fabrications because he has misrepresented what Mohan Prabhu wrote in his article. Mohan Prabhu never claimed that 30,000 - 80,000 Christians were killed or massacred as Gilbert has repeatedly done. Mohan Prabhu never claimed that there was a Mangalorean holocaust. In fact, he cited Praxy Fernandes to caution us that the atrocities of Tipu Sultan may have been made up or exaggerated by the British. Moreover, Mohan Prabhu did what responsible writers always do. He told us where he got his facts from, rather than pilfer them from somebody, and claim that he conducted independent research on them. Please find out for yourself by reading Mohan Prabhu's article at the following link: http://culture.konkani.com/Historical/515_Bicentenary_of_th.htm Once again, now who is denying the holocaust of the Manglorean (former Goans) Catholics? Answer: Tariq and You. :=)) I have never denied any holocaust. Neither has Tariq. I have only denied that Gilbert's statements about this issue are factual or truthful. So, disregard my / Mohan Prabhu's purported embellishment / data. Mohan Prabhu presents a fairly balanced view. It is only Gilbert who is embellishing and mutilating his article and the data contained in it. Cheers, Santosh ## # Send submissions for Goanet to [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # PLEASE remember to stay on-topic (related to Goa), and avoid top-posts # # More details on Goanet at http://joingoanet.shorturl.com/ # # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ##
Re: [Goanet]Santosh and the Manglorean Holocaust
--- Gilbert Lawrence [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Once again, now who is denying the holocaust of the Manglorean (former Goans) Catholics? Answer: Tariq and You. :=)) Please tell me when did I make such a statement. You can check the archives at http://joingoanet.shorturl.com/. Please apologize for making false statements. -Tariq __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Tax Center - File online by April 15th http://taxes.yahoo.com/filing.html ## # Send submissions for Goanet to [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # PLEASE remember to stay on-topic (related to Goa), and avoid top-posts # # More details on Goanet at http://joingoanet.shorturl.com/ # # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ##
[Goanet]RE: India's Top Attraction
Subject: India's Top Attraction In the Business Week magazine (USA) March 22 , 2004 issue there is a great two-page article entitled THE LUSH CHARM OF KERALA - The southwestern state has become one of India's top lures. Very interesting and positive story. Those who 'camplain ani camplain' about Goa and its tourism industry (and the IFFI) should read this article. No sussegad Malayalis / Keralites here! :=)) Regards, Gilbert ## # Send submissions for Goanet to [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # PLEASE remember to stay on-topic (related to Goa), and avoid top-posts # # More details on Goanet at http://joingoanet.shorturl.com/ # # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ##
[Goanet]Romi Konkani dailies - a lost cause?
-- Documented by Goa Desc Resource Centre Ph:2252660 Website: www.goadesc.org Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Press Clippings on the web: http://www.goadesc.org/mem/ -- - Romi dailies - a lost cause? - by Peter Raposo sfx So far, almost a hundred Romi Konkani papers or periodicals have been published at different point of time since the year 1889. Undentechem Sallok by Eduardo Bruno de Souza was the first Romi Konkani periodical that started in 1889. Initially this paper started as a monthly but later came out as a fortnightly and lasted till 1894. Most of these periodicals were weekly, fortnightly or monthly with an exception of few dailies. In all there, there were a total of around nine dailies that thrived at different points of time in Romi Konkani journalism. Started in 1907 in Mumbai, by Bernard Francisco Cabral, Sanjechem Noketr is the first daily in Romi Konkani. Later, in 1932, Antonio Vicente da Cruz started Concani Bulletin, another daily paper in Mumbai. These two dailies were followed by Goan Observer (a Konkani-English daily) started in 1933 by Joao Lazarus de Souza and Emigrant by Inacio Caitano, which was started in 1934 as a weekly but later was published as a daily. These dailies were all flagged off on a high note, but there apparently wasn't enough steam to keep going. Besides, these being mostly a one-man show business, after a short span of time they all closed. This was the first phase of the daily papers. Most of these papers did not follow any rules of grammar or syntax. Portuguese words crept in extensively. The second phase of the daily papers began in 1963 soon after Goa's Liberation. Felicio Cardozo started Sot in Margao. This was followed by Divtti, which started in 1967 of which Felicio Cardozo, again, was the first editor. (Incidentally, Sot and A Vida, a Portuguese daily, joined forces and combined to form Divtti). In 1970, Gomantak Private Limited started Uzvadd in Panjim. This was edited by Evagrio Jorge. In 1982, Novem Goem was started and Gurunath Kelekar became its first editor. Goencho Avaz is the last Romi Konkani daily on our list, which was started by Fr. Freddy D'Costa in 1989. This second phase saw changes come in by way of language used, grammar and syntax. Many writers emerged during this period. However none of these papers outlived more than five years, except the Concani Bulletin, publishing for 13 years. Sot: Sot started by Felicio Cardozo evolved from Goencho Saad, a weekly periodical, also started by him. It was printed on all the days except on Mondays. It carried news, columns, editorials, cartoons. A tabloid, it published in four to six pages. It covered prevalent corruption. Rules of grammar and syntax were followed and spellings tended to be more consistent. Portuguese words were avoided. Readers slowly got used to it. During the first seven months a thousand copies were printed from which only 400 copies were sold. Sales later grew to 5000. During the course of time, Sot made enemies due to its exposures on corruption. It also lost advertisers, this being one of the factors for it becoming financially unviable. This led to its merger with A Vida, a Portuguese-language daily run by Veritas Publishers in Margao and Divtti was formed. Divtti: Felicio Cardozo took over as its editor. It closed down after a few months due to differences between the editor and publishers, and financial difficulties. A tabloid, it had four pages (weekday editions) to six on Sundays. Uzvadd: Started by Gomantak Private Limited in 1970, with Evagrio Jorge as editor. Readership touched 4000, but slowly dwindled, in part for seeking to promote causes like merger with Maharashtra and Marathi. Jorge finally left the paper due to differences with the publishers. The paper ran for almost six years. Prior to ceasing, it turned weekly. Lack of funds and advertisements also aggravated its demise. Novem Goem: This publication was started with help of public funds at the initiative of Dr. F.M. Rebello. Gurunath Kelekar was its first editor. It ran a loss due to mismanagement and had to be closed after three months. However it was restarted and Felicio Cardozo appointed as its editor. In its new avatar it carried six pages on weekdays and eight pages on Sundays. Again, it too had to be closed down due to mis-management and lack of funds. Goencho Avaz: Fr. Freddy D'Costa, the founder and editor of Gulab started Goencho Avaz, the last Romi Konkani Daily. A significant section of the Konkani readership in Goa had been asking for a Konkani daily paper, says Fr. D' Costa, who also considers this as the main reason to have started the paper. There was also a need among a vast section of the people who neither read English nor could follow other languages and who
[Goanet]World Story Writing Contest
World Story Writing Contest We at the YOUNG GOAN INTERNATIONAL WRITERS WORKSHOP feel delighted to announce the first World Story Writing Contest for Goans. This might well be a great opportunity for all young dreamers to discover the writing genius in you and get recognition across the globe. Ages 1. 1- 10 2. 11- 18 Theme - Anthing Goan Suggestions from Goanetters are most welcome and will help in a big way in making this maiden competition something to look back and feel proud of. (we are also looking for coordinators in every country where we have a sizeable number of Goans to help us out with motivating the Youn Goans there. ) ( We know that there are many Goans amongst us would like to help , we would ask for your donations twards the PRIZES and production of the final book - Any amounts will be greatly appreciated and acknowledged ) Rewod it as you feel best. ) (We will have the final announcement by end of April 2004. After we recieve your feed back. Lets MAKE it HAPPEN. ) RB We look forward to your co-operation in our march ahead. Some rules and regulations The story has to be exclusively in English. The story should be between 1000 and 2500 words. The deadline to email stories to - is 30th August 2004. The jury for the competition will comprise seven eminent Goans from Goa, USA, UK, Canada, Africa and Portugal. The three best entries will carry cash awards. About ten or twenty top stories will feature in a book to be publish tentatively in November. These Rules are subject to amendments. Tony Martin Co-ordinator YOUNG GOAN INTERNATIONAL WRITERS WORKSHOP __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Tax Center - File online by April 15th http://taxes.yahoo.com/filing.html ## # Send submissions for Goanet to [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # PLEASE remember to stay on-topic (related to Goa), and avoid top-posts # # More details on Goanet at http://joingoanet.shorturl.com/ # # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ##
[Goanet]MEANING OF GOOD FRIDAY
When sin came into existance at the time of Adam Eva, the direct communication between God and men was ceased. And as a result the heavenly door was closed for the mankind. And in order to restore it, God has to send his only begotten son 'JESUS'(existing before in heaven)on this earth to die and shed his blood as a Lamb(to stop sacrificing animals as per old Testament). That's why we call it Good Friday, so that through Jesus we can have salvation and can inherit the Kingdom of God. The above is as per the Word of God (Bible) of which almost 95% prophesies came true. The remaining will be fullfilled upon second coming of Jesus Christ. I pray to all my brothers and sisters to enlighten their hearts and minds. Gregory Gomes Yahoo! Messenger - Communicate instantly...Ping your friends today! Download Messenger Now http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com/download/index.html ## # Send submissions for Goanet to [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # PLEASE remember to stay on-topic (related to Goa), and avoid top-posts # # More details on Goanet at http://joingoanet.shorturl.com/ # # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ##
[Goanet]ALERT:IFFI and the Ecological Gamble with the Mandovi Waterfront
-- Documented by Goa Desc Resource Centre Ph:2252660 Website: www.goadesc.org Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Press Clippings on the web: http://www.goadesc.org/mem/ -- - Ecological Gamble with Mandovi Waterfront - by Nandkumar Kamat As an ecologist familiar with the city of Panaji's changing topography and limited work done by the NIO oceanographers since 1979 on Mandovi estuary, I am uncomfortable with any idea of drastic modification of Mandovi's waterfront between the Mandovi bridge to Caranzalem. The island of Tiswadi on which the capital city of Panaji is located has a fragile ecological history. One third of the island area comprises reclaimed land. The architect of the northern part of this island is the Mandovi river. The reclaimed land and the man-made waterfront of the city also has a similar fragile history. The old photographs of the city reveal the topography as it existed in the beginning of the 20th century. Credit has to be given to the hydraulic expertise of the Portuguese engineers who devised proper drainage systems linking the watersheds of Conception and Alto de Guimares hillocks to the estuary. Between Gaundalim to Calapur, the original, extensive, swampy flood plain of Mandovi was systematically reclaimed by the Gaunkaris. But these unknown architects took extreme care to maintain a fine balance between the estuarine tidal flow and the monsoon storm water flow. All the area from the foot of the Conception hill to the Saint Ignes church was once part of the swampy, sandy palaeoshoreline. The uniform soil horizon of shining black monazite placer sand deposits found in Calapur, Merces, Chimbel, Cujira, Durgavadi and upto Caranzalem indicate the extent of the ancient sandy beaches when the Mandovi's estuarine waterfront had enveloped the Althinho-Panaji, Taleigao, Bambolim and Cujira hills. The present waterfront of Panaji city is not the original, natural waterfront of the estuary. It is just 130-years-old man-made, reclaimed and managed waterfront. The Ponte de Linhares causeway linking Panaji to Ribandar is actually a dam with 44 open gates. The Ourem creek and the Chimbel creek are the two major drainage arteries under this causeway. Both these creeks drain and deposit sediment and dirt from a semicircular area extending from Pato-Ribandar to Fontainhas, Mala and Conception hill. This area supports a dense population. All the landward storm water drains and their outlets have outfalls below the road level on Mandovi waterfront. These are visible from the river at low tide. There would be massive stagnation of water and flooding during the monsoon if these old drains and outfalls are closed with mud in any reclamation operation. Mandovi is a vertically well-mixed estuary and fortunately it has immobilised disease causing bacteria in its sediments. Any disturbance of these sediments during dredging operations would cause dispersal of these pathogens with unpredictable long-term consequences. The key to Panaji's ecologically and environmentally sustainable future is efficient drainage and conservation of the riverfront and the watershed. Government departments with poor understanding of the city's ecological history are experimenting and playing with the city's drainage system. Visit one of the wonderful spot of the city - the 'miniature dam' on the beach, just behind the Campal swimming pool, which the government erected to block the ancient outfall of the Bal Bhavan branch of Santa Inez nallah. During the construction of the Indoor stadium complex, a part of this nallah which diverges behind fire brigade headquarters was converted into a RCC box-type canal. It was a good decision for efficient drainage of Bhatulem-La Campala colony area and the rainwater on D B Bandodkar road. During my school days, we used to catch fish in this nallah. Today it is dry and has become an eyesore - a garbage dump. With such sensitivity towards the city's drainage, now the government is in a haste to build some new and fancy structures close to the waterfront. Those who are familiar with the coastal erosion history of Caranzalem and Youth hostel area would shudder to think the consequences of interfering with the waterfront in the upstream reaches of Mandovi. Water seeks its own level and a change in one area, under tidal influence is transmitted to another area in this peculiar estuarine island ecosystem. But who understands Tiswadi as an island ecosystem and Panaji as an island city? But ignoring this fact would be a grave planning error. Its implications would be realised during the monsoon when flooding would be reported from areas which had been traditionally dry. Dredging does not automatically solve any existing problem, except removal of the
Re: [Goanet]Tony Martin's Naked Goa
I read Tony Martin's *Naked Goa* a few months ago. It is a *must read* for all concerned with issues Goan. I can only endorse your views, doutor, wholeheartedly. Anthony must be encouraged into going for a sequel. Regards/Valmiki From: Dr. Jos Colao [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, April 12, 2004 7:49 PM Dear all, Just a quick note about Tony Martin's Naked Goa 1. Excellent 2. Must read for every Goan who claims to love Goa. 3. Thoughtful foreword by Fred Noronha Well done Tonybab. Hope you have started on Naked Goa -2 . good wishes jc ## # Send submissions for Goanet to [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # PLEASE remember to stay on-topic (related to Goa), and avoid top-posts # # More details on Goanet at http://joingoanet.shorturl.com/ # # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ##
Re: [Goanet]Two interesting Goa-links... China and dowry
Dear Senhor Bernado, You keep a sharp eye on Fred's writing! I had missed that one. A minor detail, though... India did acquire military hardware from the USSR and USA by 1961. But the two warplanes that sortied to silence the *Emissora de Goa* at Bambolim (and the ones used in slightly more protracted strafing in Damao) during *Operation Vijay* in 1961 were of pre-1947 British vintage. [Remember WW-II British Seahawks were in use by the Indian Navy till the '80s, when replaced with the Sea Harrier jumpjets.] Since we are on the subject (and I never miss your comment) let me try to elicit one on this: *Operation Vijay* which led to the annexation/liberation of Goa, was commanded by a *khas* Goencar, the Bharatiya Air Force's Air Vice-Marshal late E.W. Pinto (of the Pinto Rosario's from Porvorim.) Innit? Regards/Valmiki From: Bernado Colaco [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, April 12, 2004 1:59 PM Dear Fred, Isn't it true what I have been saying all along these years on Goanet? I am glad that you have come off age and provided solid information on the realities of 1961. Thank you B. Colaco By 1961, India had acquired aircraft, helicopters, engineering and other military equipment from the United States and Russia. Thus equipped, the Indian army invaded Portugese Goa in December, 1961. Goa was rapidly constitutionally incorporated into the Indian republic. Although no real protests or opposition occurred as a result of this action, the annexation of Goa reinforced China's view of India as being expansionistic. ## # Send submissions for Goanet to [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # PLEASE remember to stay on-topic (related to Goa), and avoid top-posts # # More details on Goanet at http://joingoanet.shorturl.com/ # # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ##
[Goanet]Tony Martin's Naked Goa
Dear all, Just a quick note about Tony Martin's Naked Goa First of all, let me thank my gaumbhau Ben Antao for organising paying for the Book and Postage from Goa to the US. Benbab, you have not only SEEN to it that I would read the book, you have also ENCOURAGED this fine Goan writer. I trust that I will be able to reciprocate the gesture sometime soon. Now to Tony Martin's Naked Goa: 1. Excellent 2. Must read for every Goan who claims to love Goa. 3. Thoughtful foreword by Fred Noronha 4. The following chapters are special : Chapter 11 - Lords of the Government You visit a government department - Endless wait. Your turn comes - Endless wait...the person concerned HAS GONE OUT Chapter 22 - The Days of the Jackals Corruption ... Chapter 44 - Lok kitem mhuntolo Well done Tonybab. Hope you have started on Naked Goa -2 . BTW: I was chatting with Ben Antao the other day. He made an excellent point. One important method of helping to keep Goan culture alive, is to support Good Goan literary work You are absolutely right Benbab; and we commit ourselves to doing just that. good wishes jc _ Add photos to your e-mail with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail ## # Send submissions for Goanet to [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # PLEASE remember to stay on-topic (related to Goa), and avoid top-posts # # More details on Goanet at http://joingoanet.shorturl.com/ # # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ##
[Goanet]Santosh and the Manglorean Holocaust
Gilbert: Once again I apologize for bursting your bondol when your write, let alone doing it by using unsubstantiated and fabricated facts about the Manglorean (ex-Goan) massacre of 30,000-80,000. I honestly feel you are taunting and insulting Manglorean and Goan Catholics by denying this episode. Santosh: That is why I think you are propagating unsubstantiated and fabricated facts. It is historical revisionism at its best or at its worst, depending on your perspective. I hope you can prove me wrong. Gilbert's response: For you to state that Mohan Prabhu's and the Manglorean claim of their holocaust in Seringapatam is 'unsubstantiated and a fabrication' is to follow the path of those who claim that the Jews made up their holocaust history. Once again, now who is denying the holocaust of the Manglorean (former Goans) Catholics? Answer: Tariq and You. :=)) And this after all that self-flagellation about the terrible Goan inquisition? (that I agree was terrible). So, disregard my / Mohan Prabhu's purported embellishment / data. Please PLACE YOUR OWN INDEPENDENTLY RESEARCHED DATA on the total victims of the Manglorean (former Goan) holocaust in 1784-1799 in Seringapatam. That is of course if you believe that the events did indeed occur. Your own research will convince you. Regards, Gilbert. ## # Send submissions for Goanet to [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # PLEASE remember to stay on-topic (related to Goa), and avoid top-posts # # More details on Goanet at http://joingoanet.shorturl.com/ # # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ##
Re: [Goanet]Aires's Predictions or Predilections?- by Sachin Phade and Floriano's Reply
Dear Sachin, Namaste! First of all let me go on record to say that Aires Rodrigues has never been associated with Goa Su-Raj Party and certainly not as its founder member. Secondly, I included Eugene's post on Aire's Predictions or Predilections because Eugene had also said in another post that his finding in Goa is that Goa Su-Raj Party is widely looked at in Goa as the Internet Party. Eugene had aslo hinted t hat Aires was leaning towards Sripad Naik (BJP). I included that post to say that the stand taken by Aires and Goa Su-Raj are diametrically opposite. Why not RSS-BJP? At the National Level: 1.We don't trust Advani after his involvement in the demolition of Babri Masjid. 2. We don't trust Vajpayee as he is RSS to the core but is hypocrite enough to show the world otherwise. 3. Both Advani and Vajpayee have miserably failed the Gujarat people, being the country's leaders. 4. BJP ruled NDA is reaping the benefits of the seeds sown by the Congress, specially Manmohan Singh. 5. As such the India Shining campaign to waste close to 800 crores is morally wrong when half of India is starving (literally). 6. After tasting power, the BJP is down playing it Hindutwa card. But it cannot be trusted to forget it. 7. BJP is infact the RSS, the VHP, the Bajrang Dal. last but not least: 8. BJP as a political party must be de-recognised as it has gone against its signed declaration in Article No. 1 of its Constitution which is instrumental in giving it the registration as a Political Party of India vide the Representation of People Act, 1950. as it swears by the following: Quote The name of the Party shall be Bharatiya Janata party It shall bear true faith and allegiance to the Constitution of India as by law established, and to the principles of socialism, secularism and democracy. It shall uphold the sovereignty, unity and integrity of India. Unquote At the National Level the BJP has certainly compromised on secularism vide the Babri Masjid affair. At Goa level, it has trampled on representative Democracy. The Goa Su-Raj Party has written to the Election Commission as well as to the Justices of the Supreme Court drawing their attention to the above. At the Goa Level: 1. Manohar Parrikar is a core RSS viper. 2. All his programmes are populist programmes. 3. He is using frenetic development card to maim Goa with RSS ideology. 4. He is building 23 bridges, not to connect Goa but to be ready for the de-limitation exercise to be held in October next so that he neutralises the voting patern to suit his RSS ideology.(fragmentation). His previous de-limitation chart was rejected by us (the oppositon) 5. Manohar Parrikar has shed the skin he was wearing when he was MLA. The present skin he is wearing stinks of cultural de-stabilisation of Goa a la RSS. 6. Except for the small RSS coterie and an even smaller coterie of sycophants who are capitalizing on the BJP's expansionists agenda, the people of Goa hate him like they have never hated anyone else before in the history of 53 years of Liberated Goa. Even the Portuguese are believed to have been humane. 7. He is absolutely untrustworthy as he cannot stick to his words. A slime-ball at best. 8. I could have been very very happy (personally) running after Manohar Parrikar's shadow. But my upbringing and my beliefs do not permit me to do anything but to see that his brand of governance is stopped and he is sent packing for good. 9. And I shall not stop at what I am doing. I firmly believe (and that is the reason I helped form Goa Su-Raj Party in the first place) that all the Goan politicians, without exception, have been working against Goa and its interests. We do not trust the Congress. We do not trust the NCP, We do not trust the UGDP nor the MGP etc. But above all we hate the RSS-BJP. because it is a communal viper. Our first priority is to get the BJP out of Goa. Then we shall tackle the the others at our own sweet time.They will either reform themselves or perish. It may be too far-fetched at this time for me to say, but the fact is that ... In time to come, with Goans fully behind it, Goa Su-Raj will rule Goa for a long long time. And the religious or the caste card will be far far away from it. Best regards Floriano - Original Message - From: Sachin Phadte [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, April 12, 2004 10:44 AM Subject: [Goanet]Aires's Predictions or Predilections? On behalf of Goa Su-Raj Party, Floriano Lobo, President says: Our stand is against the RSS-BJP. And if at all any one can break it, it is the alliance. There are some like me who can help. But I find the above as somewhat negative. So can Floriano say: 1. What exactly do they oppose in the RSS-BJP? 2. How will the alliance counteract these negatives? I have not been following this thread religiously. But I see in the enclosures to Floriano's message that Adv Aires Rodrigues as predicting that Shripad Naik will win and also calls
[Goanet]Foreign origin
Floriano Lobo is wondering who of the foreign origin people - Sonia Gandh or L K Advani - would be more dangerous. The foreign origin of Sonia really does not bother me personally. I do not see any reason why we should not take the assistance of anyone who wants to do good for us, provided of course that the intention of the person is honourable. What bothers me is tha the media makes no attempt to seek a full-length interview of Sonia so that the people know what is her vision for the country. And in a democracy this is very important, and those who are offering themselves as leaders should make themselves available for such a scrutiny. The other day I saw a NDTV programme which was said to be a precise of spending 24 hours with Rahul Gandhi on his campaign trail. The only time Rahul spoke on camera was right at the end for about three minutes in a half-hour programme. On the other hand a similar programme on Advani was almost like an interview of the person. One may agree or disagree with the views stated, but at least one knows where Advani stands on issues. On the issue of Advani's foreign origin, this really does not have a leg to stand on. When Advani was born, Sindh was part of India, and Advani was forced to migrate to what is left of India. If Advani is to be considered a foreigner on this ground, then IK Gujral, the Prime Minister just before Vajpayee, would also be a foreigner. So also Kuldip Nayar, the senior journalist who was also the Indian High Commissioner to UK. So, if as Floriano thinks that Advani could be a spy who came from Pakistan, so the same label can be applied to Gujral and Nayar. I think this would be preposterous. Sachin Phadte. _ News, views and gossip. Hot downloads n previews. http://www.msn.co.in/Cinema/ Get it all at MSN Cinema! ## # Send submissions for Goanet to [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # PLEASE remember to stay on-topic (related to Goa), and avoid top-posts # # More details on Goanet at http://joingoanet.shorturl.com/ # # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ##
RE: [Goanet]re: Eugene Correia, Aires Rodrigues, Goa Suraj ....... and the rest of us
What Merwyn says is precisely what I wanted to point out. Politicians or those in the public eye wear different masks. They have a public face, professional face and a private face. We know how some politicians have amassed wealth beyond their known means of income while they were in power. In public, these politicians say they are for people's welfare but deprive the state government and, by extension, the public of money through various scams or illegal ways. Many in Goa talk about Churchill's notoriety in whispers because many are scared of his muscle power. Haven't some journalists been victims of the wrath of some polticians? Newspaper reports said that one shopowner in Betalbatim is trying to charge Minister Mickky Pacheco of using some people to break down or burn his shack or restaurant but the police are not registering a case against him. Do I say more? I have seen Goa firsthand and frankly, despite the strides made in some sectors, I fear it is turning into another UP or Bihar. The rot has to stop, and the rot has begun to seep through from the top. I must say that, like some politicians, I found Aires sleazy and unscrupulous in my interaction with him in Toronto. To Aires and his many supporters, I say sorry if this is the impression that remains with me till this day. One thing I must admit, Aires has the ability to gather some loyal supporters. I found it at a small get-together he organized for Fr. Planton Faria who was visiting me in Toronto. He collected few friends within a day's or two days'notice. Truth to tell, Fr. Faria told me that I shouldn't have mentioned his arrival in Toronto to Aires. But it slipped from my lips when Aires called me. He would often call me for no particular reason which I found strange. I believe he also gathered many Goans in UK as his cheerleaders. So, it's no suprise that he was given a big farewell purse. Or maybe it was to say thank you for his efforts in getting the Indian government to let the NRIs fly on chartered planes. His ability to be at the forefront or to be in a position of influence and command was perhaps the quality that made him a student leader. It's the job of journalists to see through the hypocrisy in people who lead public lives. The Western media peers into politicians' personal lives to give an all-round profile of those seeking public offices. The Goan Observer is doing such a job, though it uses language that is crude and which belongs to the gutter press. This issue has got enough play and I frankly wish to put an end to it. To Aries, more strength to his elbow in fighting causes which he thinks are worthy and which he thinks may benefit the Goan people at large. Eugene Correia --- Mervyn Lobo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: C Fernandes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Finally, what is counted in our life - what we do for others and NOT what we do for ourselves . Cip, If I am not mistaken, this is the same Aires who posted a message on Goanet saying that he is going to wear a helmet while fighting for the rights of others not to wear helmets Mervyn2.0 __ Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca ## # Send submissions for Goanet to [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # PLEASE remember to stay on-topic (related to Goa), and avoid top-posts # # More details on Goanet at http://joingoanet.shorturl.com/ # # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ## __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Tax Center - File online by April 15th http://taxes.yahoo.com/filing.html ## # Send submissions for Goanet to [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # PLEASE remember to stay on-topic (related to Goa), and avoid top-posts # # More details on Goanet at http://joingoanet.shorturl.com/ # # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ##
[Goanet]Kott'ti Dance
JUST AN OBSERVATION Among lot of other things, Goa was also projected for tourism with a picture of colourful 'Curudinho' dancers that normally happened at every Government official occasion for the visiting dignitory, on the boat rides and at night entertainment spots but now you'll see the Indianized version i.e. Kott'ti dance with a temple as the back drop. -Alfonso Bond Braganza ## # Send submissions for Goanet to [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # PLEASE remember to stay on-topic (related to Goa), and avoid top-posts # # More details on Goanet at http://joingoanet.shorturl.com/ # # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ##
[Goanet]It's time India praised itself
It's time India praised itself - T C A Srinivasa-Raghavan http://in.rediff.com/money/2004/apr/10guest1.htm April 10, 2004 In his IIM-A convocation address Bimal Jalan asked the question in respect of India that everyone asks in respect of its cricket team: with so much talent, how can they be such losers? Coincidentally, this was the topic of the first (and only) inter-collegiate debate in which I took part. The topic was 'India mucks up because that's what we are good at.' It seems fitting, 37 years on, to re-visit the question. Mr Jalan cites Alvin Hanson, who thought that people and societies responded in unexpected ways and therefore the best laid plans of men and economists went awry. Sudhir Mulji in his recent article gave a more specific reason: the obsession with an over-valued exchange rate. Mr Jalan's view is somewhere in-between. Despite appearances to the contrary, there was a substantial gap between what was considered economically sound and found to be politically feasible. Economic strategy seldom reflected political or social realities or real political considerations. The administrative implications of policies were seldom considered... That does sum it up nicely. However, I also believe that, just as with the cricket team, we tend to be far too critical when we judge India. The truth is that on a total view we have done spectacularly well. Since I manage to read some history let me assure you, no other country can match what India has achieved in such a short space of time. Looking just at economic indicators doesn't give you a picture of what has been achieved. The list is actually quite mind-boggling: the building of a nation in a geographic space where the notion of nationhood did not exist except in the minds of a small elite, the creation of an over-arching Indian identity that percolates to all groups below the elite, the acceptance of democracy by the latter, the huge political empowerment of non-elite groups, the creation of a middle class, getting the elites to accept institutions that have power over them. The list is long. Remember, all this has been done without bloodshed. Does anyone have any idea of what it has taken to get to all these things that we take for granted? In the blaze of the Chinese and East Asian economic successes, it is easy to be blinded to what the real priorities were during 1947-70. Economic development, even if you read no more than the letters of Jawaharlal Nehru to chief ministers, was supposed to more-or-less come out in the wash. That was why it was left to technocrats. It was a bit like hiring a driver -- Ram Singh, daftar chalo. It occupied no more than a fraction of the top leaderships' mental space. And don't -- even for a moment -- think that it was easy to do what we have done. Compared to that, I have always held that economic growth is easy to achieve. It is, at the end of the day, a straight consequence of political repression -- for example, the United States had no trade unions till 1930, the United Kingdom no universal franchise till 1920 -- combined with policies that favour capital over labour. East Asia and China are cases in point. What about the 1970s then? If most of the hard work had been done by 1972, why did we go wrong on the easy bits that should have followed? The answer lies in the context of the times. The 1970s were mostly a reaction to the 1960s and the causes of India's economic failures over the next 20 years lie almost entirely there. The 1960s were disastrous for India. Looking back, it is hard not to marvel at how we survived the series of blows -- to national prestige in 1962 when the Chinese defeated us; to the economy during 1965-68 because of the droughts of 1965 and 1966; to security in 1965 because of the war with Pakistan; and to political stability because of the death of two prime ministers in office, that too within 22 months of each other. War, famine, political uncertainty and economic distress -- it was a multiple whammy and it brought forth the only reaction possible under the circumstances: excessive caution and an obsession with control. India despairingly turned for succour to the one national institution that stood between chaos and stability -- the bureaucracy. It is interesting to note that on the economic side, all the big names of today, from Manmohan Singh down, had their initiations during this period. It is no coincidence that they all share a common professional characteristic -- caution and watchfulness. That is what they cut their teeth on. This isn't surprising because if the 1960s were disastrous, the 1970s were only slightly less so. It was only when I was translating Bishan Tandon's diaries -- he served in the PMO from 1969 to 1976 -- that I came to know what really occupied Indira Gandhi's mind-space: political survival and re-election. There were plenty of crises, as well -- the two droughts in 1972 and 1979, the latter the worst in a
[Goanet]DOCTORS AND PRIVATE PRACTICE
The policy of barring Government doctors from private practice will have to be reviewed by the government. Goa Medical College may lose some of its talented doctors if this rule is enforced. Also, the Government seems to be targeting doctors of the minority community while the big sharks will swim to safety. Maybe doctors wishing to have private practice should be asked to surrender the Non practising allowance. You do not have to be an IIT to resolve this issue. It is common knowledge that most Government servants have a side job or two. Others prefer to make the side money on the job itself. So why target doctors only? A day has 24 hours so what the doctor does after office hours is his business. As long as he gets a good night's sleep and does not get cranky or abusive with patients at Goa Medical College the next morning it should be a matter of nobody's concern. The doctor at least makes some extra money caring for the patients whereas the politicians heartlessly amass wealth at the cost of the public they were elected to serve. Finally they end up at the hands of the doctor for their heart ailments. The public should have been allowed to feast on the politicians disproportionate assets but while the doctor keeps monitoring the condition of the politician's heart, it is we lawyers and the law enforcing authorities that share part of the pie! Aires Rodrigues Ribandar ## # Send submissions for Goanet to [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # PLEASE remember to stay on-topic (related to Goa), and avoid top-posts # # More details on Goanet at http://joingoanet.shorturl.com/ # # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ##
Re: [Goanet]Aires's Predictions or Predilections?
Sachin, frankly i don't know what they oppose!!! But they surely know how to divide;-) Cheers Seb Sachin Phadte wrote: 1. What exactly do they oppose in the RSS-BJP? 2. How will the alliance counteract these negatives? ## # Send submissions for Goanet to [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # PLEASE remember to stay on-topic (related to Goa), and avoid top-posts # # More details on Goanet at http://joingoanet.shorturl.com/ # # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ##
Re: [Goanet]Two interesting Goa-links... China and dowry
Dear Fred, Isn't it true what I have been saying all along these years on Goanet? I am glad that you have come off age and provided solid information on the realities of 1961. Thank you B. Colaco By 1961, India had acquired aircraft, helicopters, engineering and other military equipment from the United States and Russia. Thus equipped, the Indian army invaded Portugese Goa in December, 1961. Goa was rapidly constitutionally incorporated into the Indian republic. Although no real protests or opposition occurred as a result of this action, the annexation of Goa reinforced China's view of India as being expansionistic. Yahoo! Messenger - Communicate instantly...Ping your friends today! Download Messenger Now http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com/download/index.html ## # Send submissions for Goanet to [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # PLEASE remember to stay on-topic (related to Goa), and avoid top-posts # # More details on Goanet at http://joingoanet.shorturl.com/ # # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ##