Re: [Goanet]Goa Shipyards bags Defence Project
NEW DELHI: India announced a number of defence acquisitions and upgradations Is there such a word as upgradation in the English Language? Or is it a newly coined word by the Indian press? I thought the noun-form was upgrade as in India announced a number of defence acquisitions and upgrades ... All the initial results to a web-search on yahoo for the upgradation brought up only Indian sites... Cheers, Gabriel de Figueiredo. Melbourne - Australia. Find local movie times and trailers on Yahoo! Movies. http://au.movies.yahoo.com
[Goanet]Canadian Carinals Petition for Nuns to hear Confession
Folks, According to this article in today's, The Globe and Nail, India is the second largest supplier of Catholic priests to Canada. The largest being Poland. Mervyn2.0 -- CANADIAN CARDINALS PETITION POPE FOR NUNS TO HEAR CONFESSIONS. By CAROLINE ALPHONSO Friday, March 31, 2005 Page A10 For the last two decades, the Canadian Catholic Church has been faced with the twin problems of ageing priests and the scarcity of local recruits into the religious orders. In rural areas, the lack of priests is so severe that some Catholics have to receive the last sacrament's from non-Catholic priests. In urban areas, the population is ageing with most of the church going faithful being women. Canadian Cardinals FULL STORY AT http://www.theglobeandnail.com/servlet/ArticleNews/TPStory/AprilFool/TPNational/?query=priests __ Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca
[Goanet]Re: Goans, Gouveia, Gilbert and Caste
Mario Goveia wrote: Here is an excerpt from the article: When India's founding Constituent Assembly debated making concessions for Outcaste-Christians, Jerome D'Souza, S.J., representing the Christians, rejected them, claiming there is no caste in Christianity. He sounds just like you, Gilbert. Clearly in the late 40's Jerome D'Souza must have known that the caste system was rampant among Goans. Obviously he had his eyes and ears closed. == Gilbert Lawrence responds: What you have put in quotes from its very English cannot be the words of Jerome D'Souza but rather your's or someone else's interpretation of Jeome's thoughts. It does not even tell us the context of the statement. Clearly the Indian constitution was not being written for 2% of the population. Having said that, I fully support the statement there is no caste in Christianity. Do you disagree with that statement? What are your colors including confused? :=)) Do you want to have your cake and eat it too? Do you love to argue? Please be honest? Response from JC Mogal Glibert Lawrencebab, In their opposition to the practice of that Apartheid Caste System, I support Cornell and Mario. In the above points, I support the points raised by you. I do NOT support the individual who wants to have his cake and eat it too. Even if the Icing on the cakewalla's cake is full of Confusion. Let us (for the sake of this discussion) assume that those were indeed Fr. Jerome's words. 1. Did he say anything wrong ? 2. Is there Caste in Christianity? AND Would a person practising the caste system be a Christian ? 3. IF special concessions were made to a special subset of Christians (or Hindus) based on the Caste System, would that be fighting or enhancing the Caste System? I hope we have noted that the vast majority of Goans (in the late 40s and 50s and before that) were NOT even considered in the scenario of the Indian Constitution. They were after all, Portuguese Citizens.that figure of 2% might merit from revision. jc _ On the road to retirement? Check out MSN Life Events for advice on how to get there! http://lifeevents.msn.com/category.aspx?cid=Retirement
[Goanet]John Paul II
http://www.swissinfo.org/sen/swissinfo.html?siteSect=143sid=5645123cKey=1112308522000 April 1, 2005 12:35 AM Pope a giant bent by illness By Philip Pullella VATICAN CITY (Reuters) - Adored by some, attacked by others, Pope John Paul is the most prominent religious leaderand perhaps the most widely recognised person in the world. In over a quarter century on the global stage, he has been both a champion of the downtrodden and an often contesteddefender of orthodoxy within his own church. In recent years, the world has watched the decline in the health of the 84-year-old Pope, who suffers from Parkinson'sdisease and severe arthritis. He has been unable to complete his prepared speeches and has difficulty pronouncing hiswords. The Pope was rushed to hospital in Rome twice in February 2005 with severe breathing problems, requiring atracheotomy the second time around that temporarily robbed him of his voice. John Paul dramatically failed in his efforts to speak in public for the second time in four days on Wednesday, and shortlyafterwards doctors inserted a feeding tube to try to boost his strength. The Vatican said on Thursday the pontiff was suffering from a very high fever caused by a urinary infection. This revived fears among the world's 1.1 billion Catholics that one of the most historic pontificates was nearing an end.The massive media coverage around the world showed his appeal went far beyond the ranks of his own church. The Polish Pope burst on the scene on October 16, 1978, when cardinals in a secret conclave chose him as the firstnon-Italian pontiff in four and a half centuries. The third longest-serving pope in Roman Catholic history, the steely willed John Paul ushered his church into the newmillennium despite his sapped stamina. Historians say one of the pope's most lasting legacies will be his role in the fall of communism in Eastern Europe in1989. Poles believe his unflagging support for the banned Solidarity trade union while communists tried to crush it was apotent force keeping the movement alive. Solidarity formed the East Bloc's first non-communist government in 1989, marking the start of a wave of freedom whichsaw Marxist regimes fall like dominoes across Europe. Behold the night is over, day has dawned anew, the Pope said during a triumphant visit to Czechoslovakia in 1990. A decade after witnessing the fall of communism, he fulfilled another of his dreams. He visited the Holy Land in March2000, and, praying at Jerusalem's Western Wall, he asked forgiveness for Catholic sins against Jews over the centuries. A GLOBAL PULPIT A tireless traveller who has clocked up some 1.25 million kilometres (775,000 miles) in 104 foreign trips to some 130countries, the Pope is a familiar figure across the globe. He has drawn crowds of up to four million people. He has been determined to use his office to draw attention to the plight of the world's neediest and oppressed while atthe same time keeping a firm and conservative grip on his Church. I speak in the name of those who have no voice, he said on a trip to Africa in 1980. For the Pope, those with no voice could mean the unborn child or the dissident rotting in jail. He has felt just as much at ease lecturing dictators of the left and the right as he has telling leaders of world democraciesthat unbridled capitalism and globalisation are no panacea to the world's post-Cold War problems. A strong defender of human rights and religious freedom, his calls for a new world economic order and defence ofworkers' rights have led some to call him the socialist pope. An untiring advocate of peace and nuclear disarmament, he has often warned that mankind was heading forArmageddon and in 2003 led the Vatican's campaign against the war in Iraq. A former actor who wrote several plays, Pope John Paul has used his mastery of timing, levity and languages tocommunicate like few other world figures of modern times. CHRISTIAN UNITY An untiring advocate of Christian unity and inter-religious dialogue, he is the first pope to preach in a Protestant churchand a synagogue and the first pope to set foot inside a mosque. But ironically, over the past 25 years he also has been a visible source of deep division to his own church. Many Catholics, particularly in developed countries, have disregarded his teachings against contraception, questionedhis ban on women priests and campaigned for a liberal successor. They have also chafed under growing Vaticancentralisation. John Paul has not been swayed by their protests. Concerned that many Catholics have strayed from traditional teachings, he has waged an unflagging battle againstabortion, contraception, pre-marital sex, divorce, homosexuality and the breakdown of traditional family values. From Haiti to the United States, from Brazil to Austria, he has revived conservative Catholic self-awareness andstressed obedience to the Church's hierarchy in the midst of dissent. Liberal theologians balked,
[Goanet]The Right to Information... why?
http://www.parivartan.com/rti/# We all pay taxes. Even a beggar on the street pays tax. When he buys anything like a soap or a matchbox, he pays taxes in the form of sales tax, excise duty etc. This money belongs to us. On paper, so much money is supposedly spent on our welfare, but where does all this money go? Why are there no medicines in the hospitals? Where have all the teachers in the government schools gone? Why are the people dying of starvations? Why are the roads in such pathetic conditions? Why are the streets so dirty? The citizens are the masters of this country. The primary duty of a master is to take accounts from his servant from time to time. We, the masters, never took accounts from the governments. Because, within the existing legal and administrative frameworks, it was not possible to do so. But, now we have a right to question governments. The governments are legally bound to provide us information. A number of state governments have passed Right to Information Laws, which empower the citizens to question governments, inspect their files, take copies of government documents and also to inspect government works. Some people feel that if we had good politicians and bureaucrats, India would be a better place to live in. However, we feel that real change would come when the people start demanding accountability and the government is forced to respond. Then it would not be easy for the governments to go astray. Right to Information is the first concrete step in that direction. People are already holding governments accountable by seeking details of funds spent in their areas. * Municipal Corporation improved quality of roads when people demanded copies of contracts in some areas. * Street lights, which were not functioning for years, lit up with the use of right to information. * People started getting rations after years when records of ration shops were sought. A number of people have also been able to get their work done without payment of bribes in Government departments using RTI. _ _/ \Frederick Noronha * Freelance Journalist * Goa \ __\/\ India T +91.832.2409490 M +919822 122436 | | | | \ http://fn.swiki.net http://goabooks.swiki.net |__| |___| / http://www.bytesforall.net http://www.bytesforall.org \/ - Sign up for low-volume, high-quality news summaries and updates from Goa at http://newsfromgoa.swiki.net * It's free and volunteer-driven.
[Goanet]Goans and Caste
Hi Mario. Thanks for your response. Like a bad dream I keep coming back to keep you guys honest in your statements. Once again I hope you will bear with me for exposing your distortions. Mario Goveia: Here is an excerpt from the article: When India's founding Constituent Assembly debated making concessions for Outcaste-Christians, Jerome D'Souza, S.J., representing the Christians, rejected them, claiming there is no caste in Christianity. He sounds just like you, Gilbert. Clearly in the late 40's Jerome D'Souza must have known that the caste system was rampant among Goans. Obviously he had his eyes and ears closed. GL responds: Thanks for 'posting the quote' of Jerome D'Souza. What you have put in quotes from its very English cannot be the words of Jerome D'Souza but rather your's or someone else's interpretation of Jeome's thoughts. It does not even tell us the context of the statement. Clearly the Indian constitution was not being written for 2% of the population. Having said that, I fully support the statement there is no caste in Christianity. Do you disagree with that statement? What are your colors including confused? :=)) Do you want to have your cake and eat it too? Do you love to argue? Please be honest? Do you and others have a problem with Caste or with the Catholic faith or both? Mario: Unfortunately, unlike you, I have too much personal experience with the caste system for any such article to affect my opinion. I think it is you who are confused. For those on the wrong side of the caste system, what difference does it make whether religion or culture is in play? GL responds: You have yourself publicly posted that your ONLY experience with caste among Goans is at the time of marriage. And I concurred. Are you in the match making business to have too much personal experience? You want Goans to change. But you and others want to continue your Goan mentality of 'Aum soglem zano'. You read everything else. Is that because you do not know or are confused about the rest? :=)) As I said before, not all of the anticasteist say the same thing- if they know what they are saying. Even after the good padre told us the stand of our religion and that caste and any discrimination is a sin, Cornell in the response to Fr. Ivo, referred to the Goa Bishop. Is he hinting that the Goa Bishop is living in sin? Mario: You keep repeating that you don't endorse the caste system, but you continue to make every possible excuse for it and it's continuance. For example, your amazing comment, One can change the system if and when we have another better substitute (for Goan culture and support-network) which is why a society exists. GL responds: Again you are not understanding what you are reading. The system refers to the Goan culture which is specified. Again you overlook the obvious and go after some preconceived notion. Perhaps all your personal experiences in which you have quoted others, have similar distortions of the facts - with your own interpretation / and thoughts instead of the person you are referring to. Mario: I disagree completely, and consider the notion that we need to wait to change a system of discrimination for any reason to be bizarre to say the least. Goan culture and society would be far better off without an organized system of discrimination in place. GL: I full agree with your above statement. Pray please make such rationale statements in your entire article. It would benefit us all. On that note of agreement let me leave you with the following quote: Great minds discuss ideas; Average minds discuss events; Small minds discuss people. Regards.
Re: [Goanet]Rahul Alvares on the idiot box!!!
On Mar 31, 2005 10:08 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Guys Dear Rahul, My relations, just last week, informed me of tales about the resident house snake ( they know the house people). Of course when I suggested that there was no such thing I was ridiculed. Please, please let us put this myth to rest, The only house snakes are those that are happy to take accommodation and they will surely bite you if provoked!
[Goanet]Pope John Paul...time is nigh. also Schiavo (died)
http://www.washingtondispatch.com/article_10775.shtml Common Ground: Pope John Paul II and Terri Schiavo Commentary by Allan F. Wright March 31, 2005 Pope John Paul II and Terri Schiavo V both household names we discuss as if they were old friends. While on the surface these two individuals seem completely separate, they both challenge us to consider the intrinsic value of each and every human life. Terri Schiavo and the Holy Father are true contradictions to our modern world. Their limitations and frailties cause us to confront the reality that life in its totality is full of suffering V period. It can be difficult to view current photos of Terri lying in her bed, in need of constant care, crying out for help with her eyes. Those images are starkly different from the ones of the beautiful, vibrant young woman who slipped into a coma some fifteen years ago. In the same way, Pope John Paul causes us pause as we view this once physically robust man who has traveled the globe preaching the Gospel and defending human dignity, now struggling to wave to a crowd. His physical features shake beyond his control, yet he continues to witness to the value of human life through his own weakness. The Culture of Death wants us to be done with both Terri and Pope John Paul. The Pope, they say, should face his own limitations, retire, and allow someone more suited for the job to take over. We expect youth and vitality in our leaders and public figures and this popes suffering makes us uncomfortable. In the same way, Terri is constantly displayed with her contorted, comatose body as a pathetic figure not fit for life and not worthy to be the recipient of food and water. Talk show hosts and callers often plead to, let her die in peace. Interestingly, not many would consider an excruciatingly painful death from dehydration and starvation a peaceful way to go. Conversely, the Culture of Life recognizes that every person, from conception to natural death, has inherent dignity and worth. The Culture of Life faces the human condition, in all of its sickness and disease, and says, Yes! We accept and love you just as you are! Despite what one may think, both Pope John Paul II and Terri Schiavo hold great power. These two frail individuals cause us to reflect on the value we truly place on human life V despite its condition. Both figures instigate a thought process of questioning the value of our own lives if we, too, happen to meet a similar fate down the road. The love and compassion shown worldwide for both Terri and the Holy Father from so many causes us to reject a philosophy that values the individual person only for what they can do or accomplish. When we allow ourselves to enter into a utilitarian mindset, we are starting down a slippery slope. Unfortunately history is filled with tragic events when some human lives were deemed more valuable than others. Be it race, religion, or mental capacity, history is strewn with examples wherein human beings callously destroyed others due to arrogance and ignorance. In confronting the human condition of suffering, we come face to face with the difficult reality of our own transience and mortality. Pope John Paul, Terri Schiavo, and all those who love them, now face this reality on a daily basis. The Pope is not afraid to be seen in his current condition. Broken by Parkinsons and other ailments as he is, he is still a person of value not to be thrown out for a more youthful model. (How many movie stars, athletes and models avoid the spotlight after their abilities and beauty fade?) We may shy away from his current condition and hearken back to his more youthful days but he does not. He knows that Christ shines ever more brightly through him as his own body fails. Both the Pope and Terri also trigger us to consider how we respond to those around us who suffer. Do we look the other direction or embrace them and touch them where they hurt? Do we teach our children to accept people who might not look just right? If the answer is not yes, than we need to look deeply in ourselves and examine why we fear imperfections in the human condition. We must be present in the face of suffering and recognize the value of all human life no matter its state. Terri Schiavo and Pope John Paul II nhave given us a wonderful gift. They have allowed us to look beyond ourselves and to view human suffering not as a punishment, but as a natural phase along the path of life. This is an invaluable lesson that will make everyones journey a little easier. We should embrace this time we have and use these two heroes stories to better understand the mystery of life. It is likely that neither Terri Schiavo nor Pope John Paul II will be with us much longer on this earth. Now is the time to consider these two individuals, in all their pain and suffering, and allow their courage to challenge us to lead more passionate lives. Allan F. Wright is a popular speaker, instructor on
[Goanet]Jose Colaco continues his HOAX!
--- jose colaco [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: d) Yes, I have understood from other responses by you(Mario) that you have (eventually) acknowledged that your original email warning was a hoax Retractions (however grudgingly they are proferred) are best done independent of additional comments about unconnected matters. Mario replies: Another example of a classic Jose Colaco faux nooj, not to mention condescending and patronising attitude. The words eventually and grudgingly, are both completely and deliberately faux nooj or false. In other words, they are LIES. Even when I was castigating George Pinto, who initially informed me of the hoax, for combining unrelated issues with this one, I acknowledged that I had referred George's information back to the person who had sent me the original email along with George's information that it was a hoax. The archives will confirm this. Jose Colaco writes: e) Yes Mario, I am a staunch defender of the rights of AIDS-infected drug users. As a centrist, and as a physician, I am opposed to the societal discrimination against ANYBODY, icluding those who have been unfortunate to contract the HIV virus. Mario replies: We finally get an acknowledgement about the agenda that is working here. Apparently, according to this alleged physician, Jose Colaco, AIDS-infected drug users have the right to leave infected needles in public places. Then Jose continues his drumbeat of faux nooj in trying to insinuate that this is not a problem for unsuspecting users of public places and to say so is societal discrimination. Jose Colaco writes: BTW: You could say anything you wish to us without TELLING US a LIE. Even if LIES are a convenient Means to an End Mario replies: Jose, in the context of this thread, it is you who has been proven to be the LIAR for continuing to insinuate that I defended spreading the original hoax, which I did not defend, and for also continuing to insinuate that infected needles in public places are not a hazard. _ Dont just search. Find. Check out the new MSN Search! http://search.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200636ave/direct/01/
[Goanet]Re: der REAL Faux Nooj is a HOAX!
From: Mario Goveia [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mogal Mario Gouveia, a) Thank you for acknowledging that the original email you circulated was done without realizing it was a hoax b) Instead of your abusive response to George Pinto who was kind enough to advise you about the hoax email, you could and should have double-checked on the Norton's or McAfee sites, AND immediately retracted that Hoax e-mail. c) No... but you decided to take on George Pinto for what you consider to be his gratuitous comments about unconnected matters. Could you NOT have addressed George Pinto's gratuitouus comments about unconnected matters in a separate post? d) Yes, I have understood from other responses by you(Mario) that you have (eventually) acknowledged that your original email warning was a hoax Retractions (however grudgingly they are proferred) are best done independent of additional comments about unconnected matters. e) Yes Mario, I am a staunch defender of the rights of AIDS-infected drug users. As a centrist, and as a physician, I am opposed to the societal discrimination against ANYBODY, including those who have been unfortunate to contract the HIV virus. Just for info: Intravenous Drug usage is NOT common in the developing world. f) Now, since I insist on continuing this dialog, please advise us HOW MARIO GOUVEIA has watched his behinds when he sat in a public place - like the cinema hall That would be an interesting one to learn about... it would be better than REAL Faux Nooj!!! good wishes as always jc BTW: You could say anything you wish to us without TELLING US a LIE. Even if LIES are a convenient Means to an End _ Dont just search. Find. Check out the new MSN Search! http://search.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200636ave/direct/01/
[Goanet]US wants India to be a world power
A key excerpt from the following article from the Indian Express of March 30, 2005: On Indias access to high-tech military technology, the American offer today is stunning. Our thirty year old complaint that the NPT, the NSG and the dual use technology denial regimes have targeted India has now been rubbished with the American offers of joint production of world class combat aircraft. This is not to be mistaken for a hardware sale, but a realisation that the Americans can live with a regional power like India, which operates F18s, the P3Cs, and the SU30 MKI. ARTICLE: A bigger, bolder policy Indias journey must leave Pakistan behind, and the F16s dont matter RAJA MENON From Iraq to the Indian Ocean, from the forthcoming NPT conference to the Proliferation Security Initiative, from the Japanese overtures to the March 25 statement from Washington, Indian foreign policy is facing opportunities like never before. If Delhi has the boldness to dump the non-aligned rhetoric of the past, the country stands to gain in many areas. In Iraq, attempts to make it a modern democracy seem to follow the early years of the Indian state. India elected a constituent assembly in 1949, Iraqis elected theirs in February 2005. The first constituent assembly had an overwhelming Congress majority. No Indian suggested at that time, or recently, that the Congress was a Hindu party, except for the Muslim League which had raised the demand for Pakistan. Most Indians had no doubts that Hindu and Muslim opinion would be represented fully within the Congress party. The presence of Zakir Hussain and the Maulana ensured that this was factually so, although many Muslims who migrated to Pakistan did cast aspersions on the integrity of both leaders. So it is with some despair that one reads the many reports in the press, by Indian intellectuals and journalists, that the Iraqi elections are not fair because the Shiites have a majority, that this majority is not good or stabilising for Iraqi democracy, that the Sunnis needs special representation and that Sunni terrorism is secretly justified on grounds of the inevitable injustice which will be done to them by the brute Shiite majority. This stand, which only repeats Jinnahs arguments, is also so unfair to the desperate attempts being made by Ayatollah Ali Sistani to move his country to as secular a democracy as is possible in the volatile Middle East region. We have our own volatile region in Kashmir, where the strategy of the Indian Republic has been to push political democracy on the Kashmiri people. They too have seen a partial boycott of the democratic process, mainly by a coalition of Sunni fundamentalists whose real grouse is quite different from their ostensible complaint. In Kashmir, fundamentalists fear that in a fair election they would simply disappear, so they want to shift it to a vote on religion. The Iraqi Sunnis have a replica of the same strategy. The first Iraqi election produced a voter turnout of 58 per cent in an election marred by violence and forty deaths. In the first election held after Governors Rule in Kashmir, the voter turnout was considerably less, but that election led to the next one which gave the present government. Today no one in India would question the democratic credentials of the Mufti government. The Iraqi Constitution is to be written by August 2005, five months after the election results were announced and submitted for a national referendum by mid-October. If the Sunnis missed their chance to vote in the election, they may have a chance to register their feelings in the referendum. The Shias are already voting in a split fashion, apart from fielding a number of Sunni and Kurd candidates in the United Iraqi-Alliance. So the overall pattern that emerges in Iraq is not far different from the victory of the Congress in the first Indian election, or the victory of Muftis party in the JK elections. What is most daunting is the timeline for the Iraqi democratic process. If the referendum approves the constitution in October 2005, the Iraqi people will vote in another general election on December 15 and a new government is to be installed by December 31. The challenging deadlines are probably set so the Americans can begin to hand over power and commence their withdrawal sooner rather than later. The government that emerges in Iraq will be democratic, perfectly legal and enjoy broad-based popular support. Indians have often pointed out the fact that of the hundreds of jihadi terrorists arrested world-wide, none was an Indian Muslim. It is time for Indian analysts to also recognise that none of the 19 involved in the World Trade Center bombing was a Shiite. The winds are changing in the region and New Delhi needs to acknowledge the change sooner. Even Saudi Arabia is beginning to change. In the first ever elections in Saudi Arabia, for half the seats in all municipal councils, it is an even chance that some
[Goanet]Rahul Alvares on the idiot box!!!
Hi Guys This is just a small email to inform you that I will be appearing on National Television (DD 1) on Sunday the 3^rd of April at 11.30 am. This is of course provided the cricket match doesn't disturb the timing. The show is called Bhoomi. Director; Sachin. This episode will cover a few environment issues in Goa. My part is about the snake rescue I do in Goa. The full filming of the snake call (staged; catching a cobra at my neighbors house), plus a couple of interviews may be shown. Should be good! The entire filming team - Director; Sachin, Assistant D; Sharmista, Camera; Raghu and the others - were great fun to work with. Best Wishes Rahul Alvares
Re: [Goanet]Once a Decade, SFX.
On Mar 31, 2005 5:12 PM, Jorge/Livia de Abreu Noronha [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anto Akkara's Once a Decade article, posted by Gabe Menezes, is very interesting to read. However, the following part does not correspond to reality: RESPONSE: Thank you v.m. indeed for the correction Jorge; thank you too for noting that I only posted it - perhaps our good Goanetter Mario Gouveia, will learn etiquette your exemplary post, instead of asking - so what?. I have been to Malacca where SFX Body was entombed, should have picked it upunfortunately, I am one for detail only when my life is on the line! It is really pleasing to know that my fellow Goenkars, can and do correct posts - this is what getting involved is all about and can only further enhance Goanet. I would urge fellow silent netters to get involved; in return I would request that seasoned netters treat freshmen with kid gloves! On another matter, my cousin from Cascais informs me that that there was a Nobert (?) DaCcosta ( A Goan) who was P.M. of Portugal in 1978, for a very short time - died of a heart attack. Please be good enough to enlighten us all about this. Thanks in advance. Cheers. Gabe Menezes London
Re: [Goanet]Goa backstabbing comes to fore
Generally, people elect the government they deserve - take the US and George Bush. But here in Goa, the dynamics are different; it does not matter which party we elect. We could be voting a secular yet corrupt government into power or a communal but more efficient party. In the end the stable government we hope for turns out to be just that, a place for horse-trading. Yesterday's enemies become today's friends and vice-versa. And then there are politicians like Mathany Saldanha who was crucified because he refused to be as he said, a jumping frog. Bevinda Collaco - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; gulf-goans@yahoogroups.com; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; goanet@goanet.org; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2005 3:49 AM Subject: [Goanet]Goa backstabbing comes to fore As a rule, I do not respond to internal politics of Goa or any other place. Since I am not a resident of the place and have no business opining on it. However the following first paragraph caught my eye and my tickled logic. This is not a rebuttal or a thread that I want to start. But just a philosophical thought I would like to place on the net for Goans every where to ponder. Who rules Goa (or any other place) is not a political party or politicians who want to rule. In a democracy, who rules are the people who are elected by the residents. Hence Gonsalves' admonition should not be to the politicians and the parties but to the Goan electorate. If Goans re-elect floor-crosses, back-stabbers, corrupt and indicted politicians then they should expect more of the same, whichever the political party. Goa is a democracy. Let's not blame the politicians be they in Panaji or in Delhi. This is another example of a Goan crutch which Cornel alludes to. Regards, GL godfrey gonsalves: The Indian National Congress in Goa has still to come to grips with the ground reality if they are to rule the State in the near future. Having been out of power since October 2000 for well over 4 years and three months the veteran MLAs of the Party should have realised to maintain not a SEMBLANCE OF UNITY - either by show of hands or being photographed as brothers/sister in arms but by Unity wedded to the ideology of the oldest political party in India.
[Goanet]Sporting Clube de Goa avenged their first leg loss to Churchill Bros by scoring a resounding 4-0 win
o~!!~o~!!~o~!!~o~!!~o~!!~o~!!~o~!!~o~!!~o~!!~o~!!~o~!!~o Goa, Mar 31: Sporting Clube de Goa avenged their first leg loss to Churchill Bros by scoring a resounding 4-0 win, in the ONGC Cup 9th National Football League match played at Nehru stadium, Margao, man of the match Bibiano Fernandes opened Sporting's account with a goal in the 64th minute, following a barren first half, when he surprised the Churchill defenders with a speedy strike off a pass from Adebayo. Thereafter the floodgates seemed to have opened as goals came in a hurry as Sporting breached the rival goal thrice in 7 minutes. First it was Joseph Pereira scoring a brace with strikes in the 72nd and 74th minutes and then it was Nigerian Adebayo Adewusi who mesmerized goalkeeper Vinay Singh with a solo effort to complete the rout in the 79th minute. Joseph who relatively had a sedate first half sprang to life in the second with two well timed goals. In a clear case of opportunism Joseph latched on to a loose ball inside the box when Churchill defender Subashish Choudhary tried to thwart a dangerous Niclau Borges before slotting home Sporting's second goal in the 72nd minute. Two minutes later, Joseph slammed home off a deflection from rival defender who was attempting to clear a Dudu header from the left. For 9th National Football League updates check : www.vascoclub.com / www.aiffonline.com o~!!~o~!!~o~!!~o~!!~o~!!~o~!!~o~!!~o~!!~o~!!~o~!!~o~!!~o
[Goanet]How to Build A Small NGO
This is a 79-page PDF file === http://topics.developmentgateway.org/ngo/rc/ItemDetail.do~1034123?intcmp=700 This manual is useful for either starting an NGO or for improving systems in existing NGOs. Best practices and examples are provided that allow one to prevent, recognize, and fix problems. Contributed by Erik Pacific on 25 March, 2005 Thanks to Yoke May and the Asiasource-l mailing list for forwarding this. FN
Re: [Goanet]Goanet News Bytes * Mar 31, 2005 * Goa's political constituencies get re-drawn
On Mar 31, 2005 1:56 PM, Goanet News Service [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][] G o a n e t - N e w s B y t e s MARCH 31-30, 2005 DATELINE: GOA d growing strong. - GOMANTAK TIMES carries photographs, under the caption 'Do you need more evidence, your excellency?' RSS activists under the garb of Mala Citizens Action Committee strike a body blow to Goa's social fabric. Also seen are Vilas Satarkar (circled), brother of ex-Speaker Vishwas Satarkar and others. The leader of the pack, Naguesh Karmali after destroying and defacing Portuguese street signage and replacing them with Hindu (sic) names. Photo courtesy Sunaparant. RESPONSE: Hope the Governor now steps in and orders the Police to do the necessary. The Governor should also check the credentials of the Police chief, to ascertain whether he/she has BJP affiliations or sympathy towards the accused. Get this malarkey out of the way once and for all, so that the people of Goa will regain their confidence and trust in the Police and in Law and order. Lack of evidence ? Gomantak has provided it. Hope witnesses now come forward. -- Cheers, Gabe Menezes. London, England
Re: [Goanet]Once a Decade, SFX.
Anto Akkara's Once a Decade article, posted by Gabe Menezes, is very interesting to read. However, the following part does not correspond to reality: During his second trip to east Asia in 1552 he fell sick and died at the age of 46 while waiting for the boat to take him to mainland China. Months after the body was buried in the Mollucas Islands, where the saint died, local Christians found the body incorrupt and shipped it secretly to Goa. Mollucas islands are an archipelago that is now part of Indonesia. It was not there that Francis Xavier died and was buried, but in the Sancian island, off the coast of China. And it is not true that his incorrupt body was shipped secretly to Goa. When unearthed at Sancian, the body was shipped to Malacca (in present-day Malaysia), later on unearthed again and shipped - openly, not secretly - to Goa where it reached and was triumphantly received in 1554. Jorge - Original Message - From: Gabe Menezes [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: goanet@goanet.org Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2005 10:58 PM Subject: [Goanet]Once a Decade, SFX. http://www.cwnews.com/news/viewstory.cfm?recnum=36123 Once a Decade In an extraordinary outpouring of faith and devotion, pilgrims from all across India, and even beyond, flocked to the little town of Goa to venerate the remains of St. Francis Xavier. Anto Akkara Feb 2005 (CWR) - More than 2.5 million pilgrims from all across India and abroad had filed past the remains of St. Francis Xavier when the 16th decennial exposition of the 452-year-old body of the great saint concluded on January 2 at the Bom Jesus Basilica in Goa, a former colony on the west coast of India. Archbishop Filipe Neri Ferrao of Goa led the solemn ceremony closing the 43-day exposition of the mortal remains of the saint who died in 1552. When it was over, the glass casket containing his body was returned to its regular place at the side altar of the Bom Jesus Cathedral. Several Indian bishops, hundreds of priests, and thousands of lay Catholics attended the closing ceremony, as the body of St. Francis Xavier, still preserved after more than 400 years, was brought back to the Bom Jesus cathedral in a solemn procession from the Se cathedral, just across the road, where it had been exposed for public viewing and veneration since November 21. This is really amazing. We really want to have a look at this, Sakuntala Podar, a Hindu, told CWR while patiently waiting in the queue along with thousands in the blazing sun for a glimpse of the incorrupt body of St. Francis Xavier, known to Catholics as the Apostle of the East. In fact Sakuntala and her husband had decided to take time from their vacation in Goa to visit the Se cathedral in the final hours of the exposition. Like the Hindu couple, thousands of pilgrims had lined up patiently for hours to file past the remains of the saint, day after day, from 6 in the morning until 7 in the evening, during the six weeks of public exposition. Many of the pilgrims came to Old Goaa bit more than 20 miles from Panaji, the capital of Goa, on the coast of the Arabian Seaafter reading media reports about the rush of pilgrims, including Hindus and Muslims, to the popular shrine. AN IMMEDIATE RUSH It all began on November 21, with another solemn Mass and procession: this one starting at the Bom Jesus basilica and crossing the street to the Se cathedral. This more spacious building was chosen primarily because it could accommodate the large number of pilgrims organizers expected for the event. But Se cathedral is the oldest cathedral in Goa, the former Portuguese colony that became part of India in 1962; as such it is a national monument, under the care of the Archeological Survey of India. Beginning with the opening day of the exposition, the cathedral saw a great rush of pilgrims. Airline flights into Goa were booked to capacity; train and bus services were stretched to their limits. Parishes from cities like New Delhi and Calcutta, over 1,000 miles from Goa, arranged group trips, led by their pastors. Many of the visitors stayed in Goa to tour other churches and Christian monuments in the state. This exposition was the largest such event ever organized by the Church in Goa. The number of pilgrims shot up by nearly one-third over the 1.9-million figure attending the most recent exposition of the saint's remains in 1994. The number of visitors during the six-week exposition easily exceeded the total population of the state; Goa is home to 1.4 million people (of whom roughly one-third are Catholic). To welcome this huge influx of the faithful, the Goa archdiocese worked with the state government, making special arrangements to keep visitors as comfortable as possible. Thousands of pilgrims camped out overnight near the grounds of the cathedral, relying on local organizers to provide low-cost accommodations as they broke up their long cross-country trips to the exposition. The number of pilgrims may have surprised organizers, but the
Re: [Goanet]Genuine meaning of Easter
I am genuinly ashamed of the absolute uncritical internalisation of the evil of caste among some Catholic Goans and will do all in my power to attack it, including, pursuing it with the Vatican which is wholly against this form of racism, as well as raising it in the wider media. I am fully aware that this will not make me popular at all among some Catholic Goans but it is a cause for which I am prepared to nail my mast. As to Easter, it is indeed a Christian celebration, and not a Hindu one (as far as I know), in which caste is expected to play a part. Yes, as you ask, I do know the meaning of Easter very very well but this begs the question, whether you really do, I have NEVER claimed to know the meaning anything religious. I would prefer not to ARGUE about a problem - I cant find a SOLUTION. We have too many arguments on this forum ,BUT no solutions. A couple of people on this forum playing the same tunes and some of us dancing to them ... It looks that the majority of the Goans on this forum do not care at all about the caste system , if they did - they would have got involved and worked for a solution. rene barreto == --- Fr. Ivo Da C. Souza [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I do endorse your struggle against casteism. Caste is there, to some extent, ingrained in our society. It is difficult to eradicate it totally from our minds and hearts. Fr. Ivo - makes a very interesting statement - he sates that it is going to be difficult .. Fr. Ivo , can you please tell us how this issue is being addressed in Goa - if at all and how ? Just asking . We do not seem to have the will to address this problem - but just argue about it. Just my thoughts. rene __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/resources/
[Goanet]Of Moustaches and Goan Men
I have been doing some research on moustaches and Goan men and would appreciate some feedback. Perhaps you could answer some of the questions below: - Do illustrations of Goans from the distant past show a pre-dominance of moustaches? - In the recent past (50 years) has there been a shift from mustached to clean shaven? - Do Goan men who migrate to the West retain their moustache or shave clean. For example many men who work in the middle East take to growing a French beard. - What reasons do Goan men have for growing/not growing a moustache? - Do Goan women prefer their men with or without a moustache? Do they find men with facial hair attractive? Personal anecdotes on moustaches, and facial hair in general, also welcome. My attempts a year back to get into Wendell Rodricks book on Goan Fashion did not meet with any success. Perhaps I can present him with this moustache research and he will allow me to be part of his book project and I will become famous and rich too! At the age of about 18 I had a reasonably decent moustache. When I tried trimming it I kept getting one side shorter than the other and ended up looking like a dark brown Charlie Chaplin. So I just shaved it all off and have remained clean shaven since. But every few (3-4) years I do grow a thick moustache and unkempt beard for 3-4 weeks and look like a total 'goonda' then go back to clean shaven again. Cheers! Cecil da Serious Studious Researcher P.S. Two of the GoaNet Administrative Team are clean shaven, one is fully bearded and mustached, and one I have never met - so I don't know. What does that signify? P.P.S. I also have hair growing out of the side of my ears. Is this common? I didn't pay it any attention till someone pointed it out to me and mentioned that he always got his ear hair trimmed. I would never do such a thing. =
[Goanet]Your post to Fr Ivo
Gilbert, I think you are trying, with a measure of deviousness, to intimidate the good priest about what he said regarding caste being a sin, and also subtly trying to discourage other priests etc from coming forward about caste with your implied claim that you have Church interests most at heart and want to save it from those demons from across the seas who are asking searching questions. As for all those guys outside Goa who think they are smart as you say, they don't think so Gilbert, as they know they are! You have been unable to take them on with a cogent/persuasive argument in a single instance as far as I can tell. And, incidentally, you are from outside Goa too, but at least, you do implicitly recognise/concede that you are not one of the smart ones! When in a hole Gilbert, the most important rule is to stop digging! Cornel
[Goanet]LONELINESS SELFISHNESS
From:Sanny Vaz [EMAIL PROTECTED] LONELINESS SELFISHNESS Please don't delude yourself into thinking that you're doing that when you havesome ulterior motive in mind. You may actually be helping someone, or doingsomething for them, but if you do it with a secret, selfish motive, it just isn't the same thing. You may fool everyone else, but you'll find it almost impossible to fool yourself.. Oh, there are many people who put up a great front of total altruism. RB Great article ! this article applies to most us - yes , including myself. rene
[Goanet]Goan caste structure.
http://www.webindia123.com/goa/people/caste.htm CASTE STRUCTURE In Goa, the Bamonn or the Brahmins belonged to the originally priestly class taking upon other occupations like agriculture, trade and commerce (merchants), gold smithy etc. The Chaddho or the Kshatriyas were the noblemen, warriors and related soldiery taking up commercial avocations also. The Vaishya-Vanis were engaged in trade and among them were the 'shetts' or goldsmiths pursuing the craft of gold and gold ornaments. The Sudir or the Sudras were the workers and agricultural labourers engaged in the servicing professions. The Gavddi or Kunnbi were the landless labourers, earlier dislodged by the above high castes and living in their own wards in the village. There were the Gauddo or Gaudde, probably the Vaishya counterparts in Goa of the neighbouring Karnataka's Gowda, as there is 'Gaud' found in the Canacona taluka of Goa on Karnataka's border. The caste structure in Goa was somewhat like pre-eminence in the social hierarchy based on the nobility of blood, very much resembling the idea of family nobility in the rest of India. All the castes or rather sub-castes or jatis like Saraswats, Karades, Chitpavans, Padhyes etc. among the various segments of the population of Goa, particularly the goldsmiths and some merchants probably, as seen from the surnames of members of communes purportedly all- Brahmin, were lumped into the Christian caste of Bamonn or Brahmin. The various groups among the Kshatriyas or locally known as Chaddho were mainly the noble and warrior class. Some of them engaged in the trading profession, known as Chatim, which was an occupational appellation common to Brahmins also. The caste appellation of Chaddho gradually fell into disuse. Later among the Hindus of this caste in Goa who did not embrace Christianity began preferring the appellation of Maratha. The Marathas and Vanis were incorporated into the Christian caste of Chaddho . Those of the Vaishya-Vani caste men who could not get themselves merged as Christian Bamonn or Chaddho, appear as Gauddo in place in Bardez Taluka of Goa, among Christians and those among the Hindu remnants of this caste in the present Canacona taluka etc. Gauddo caste among Christians is treated as one of the three high castes. It is believed that large number of Vaishya-Vanis emigrated to the adjoining district of Sindhudurg in Maharashtra. Their descendants trace their origin to Goa and the flight of their ancestors at the time of the conversion fever. The Christian counterpart of the Hindu Vani is the Gauddo Christian caste. The goldsmiths call themselves 'Daivednya Brahmins' and are known in Goa as 'Shetti'. they were put into the Christian caste of Sudir or Sudras, which is a lower caste. They did not get into the caste deemed superior because they were known as 'Panchal' or the artisan group of castes. The aboriginal stock in Goa is known as the 'Gavddi', is a higher caste. The Christian convert of the Gavdi aboriginal was termed as Kunbi. The Kunbis are found in large number in the Salcete taluka than in any other taluka of Goa. At the time of the conversions carried out by the Portuguese missionaries, there were untouchables like the 'Mahara' and Chambars, who were converted to Christianity. They are found in Chandor village. Chambars have later merged with the Sudras among Christians. Bamonn and Chaddho are the two advanced castes among the Hindus in Goa. They continued to attach their caste to the Christian names and surnames even after conversion. The first mass baptisms or conversions to Christianity were effected in the two prominent villages in the vicinity of the then city of Goa, Divar Island and Carambolim villages, the first of the Bamonn and the second of the Chaddho. The majority of the total number of village communes converted to Christianity belonged to the two high castes. The priests in the Goan community should be recruited from the Bamonn and Chaddho. At some places the Christian name, is mentioned along with the old Hindu name while at others the Christian name is mentioned with the person's father name in the Hindu original or in case of the father being a Hindu. The surnames of Poi, Kamat or Vamotim, Desai Kudav, Naik, Prabhu or Porbu etc. are common to both the high castes of Bamonn and Chaddho. Christian Bahmonns and Chaddhos are the two leading rival classes among the Goan's. The continued maintenance of the caste system among the Christians in Goa is attributed to the mass conversions of entire villages, as a result of which the religious complexion of the whole village was given a new coat of Christianity without affecting its age-old social structure which was rooted in caste foundations. The old usages and customs and age-old traditions, including superstitions of a varied order, especially the caste-system were transferred. The Portuguese, fearing the relapses of their coverts to Hinduism, destroyed all available material reminiscent of the old
[Goanet]Saddo ceremony and more.
Saddo Ceremony In the northern part of Goa, there is a beautiful ceremony called the Saddo. Saddo is the ceremonial cutting of the cloth, normally flowery red, to be worn by the bride in the house after the wedding. A tiny image of child Jesus is placed on the floor mat where the tailor is sitting with the clothes, at their house and two tiny length wise pieces of clothes are cut by him and placed there in the form of a cross. To begin with, there is the 'Nomon' in which blessing of God almighty and especially of the virgin Mary, mother of Jesus are invoked in the form of Zot (a special song peculiar to the occasion sung by an expert song-stress). Then each relative, from the nearest to begin with, followed by others to the accompaniment of references to them made in beautiful metaphor in the form of Zotis, walks up to the spot where lies the Infant Jesus and lays his or her offerings of money from Rs2 to Rs10 before the image. Then a piece of betel nut and leaf with calcined lime and some sweets are disturbed to the people present. The elder men are served with liquor, women and children with sweet red wine and soft drinks. The money collected on the occasion is taken by the tailor, apart from his wages. The tailor will later stitch the main wedding dress or gown in milky white colour and other necessary clothes for the bride and near relatives, brides maids etc. The brides gown, ornaments and trousseau are displayed in a special ceremony at which people are invited, and then they are sent to the groom's place for display there. The Hair Cutting Ritual On the day prior to the marriage, the groom is set on a ceremonial stool or chair at home and the barber formerly the family barber, cuts his hair in an appropriate cut. Songs are sung on the occasion and friends and relatives gather to witness it. The barber is paid a handsome remuneration in cash as well as given presents in the form of coconut and a measure of rice and sweet meats. This ceremony is held prior to the bath with coconut-pulp, juice or milk. This ceremony is held among all communities. The bath with coconut pulp: Among Christians, on the evening preceding the wedding day the bride at her place and the groom at his, take a ceremonial bath with coconut pulp-juice or milk. It starts with applying ceremonially to the accompaniment of special verses called Zotis, peculiar to the occasion, sung by trained women. On the head or a part of the body of the bride or groom, clad in bathing dress, at his /her own place, a tumbler full or cup full of juice extracted from coconut-shredded pulp kept in a pot is applied, by relatives in a proper order of priority, followed by friends. This is done first, out side the bathing room, in the hall. The second part of the bathing ceremony consists of a bath with water possibly warm in the bathing room, again in a ceremonial manner, with songs being sung in a group. After bathing with a tumbler of water, a few coins are dropped into the pot of water, kept for the purpose. All the money dropped into the pots is taken by the maids who helped or were called for preparing the bath water and coconut pulp juice. Hindus too have a similar bath but not so elaborate. They have an additional application of turmeric (halad) and oil on the body of the bride. Among Muslims, this practice does not exist. The Beggar's Lunch Among Christians, a lavish feast called the Beggar's lunch or Bhick Reamfevon is held a day or two before the wedding day, preferably on a Tuesday. Seven or nine poor people, both men and women are invited to a sumptuous lunch with pork, beef, fish, rice and a curry of a special type called 'samrachi koddi'. They squat on the floor mat and specially prepared jack fruit tree leaves, well plaited into plates, are placed before them into which food is served or ladled out by the bride and groom at each one's place of residence. The intention behind the service is to feed and satisfy the ancestors on this important occasion in their house through the medium of these beggars. Coconut oil is also given for their hair and a bidi or cigarette, according to the preference expressed by them. They are also given a sweet dish of gram dal and soji a sweet composed of wheat preparation and bananas. Instead of coconut-feni, a sweet wine could also be served to them. Wedding Ceremony Wedding in Goa do not take place on Thursdays and Fridays in the normal course. On the wedding day, the groom's sister and another close relative go with the brides dress and assorted materials and dress her up at her residence. The wedding ceremony of Goa is same as all over the world. There will be a wedding dance function in the hall. After the dance function is over, the whole group or part of it that remains to the end. The groom's side cross over a line of demarcation, imaginary but conventionally drawn called 'shim' (literally, boundary line in Konkani), the brides guests remaining on the hither side of
Re: [Goanet]Same message different responses
By jove! Fr. Ivo has performed a miracle! Does this mean that Gilbert has finally got it, and we don't need any research to determine whether the horrific caste system exists among Goan Catholics? But what to make of the subsequent comment, We have been getting a lot of loaded nonsense from some Catholic laity of late in cyberspace. All of them are living outside Goa and they think they are smart. This abuse is hurled on Goa's church perhaps because the Goan priests have just chosen to stay silent rather that confront these allegations piously and if necessary vehemently. I seem to have missed all the abuse hurled on Goa's church. All I remember seeing are some laments that Goan priests don't stand up and proactively oppose the caste system. Some may even delude themselves like Fr. Jerome D'Souza, S.J. did in the late 40s during India's Constituent Assembly when he denied that caste existed among Indian Christianity. Also, because Fr. Ivo has confirmed that the discrimination of the caste system is a sin (are you following this, Avelino?) then why would it be considered abuse for Goan laity (those guys who think they are smart, presumably for insisting that it's high time we abolish the caste system) to criticize Goan priests for not opposing such a sinful practice more vehemently? Maybe we need that research after all. --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: GL responds: Thanks Fr. Ivo for the post. You have clearly told us about the past and about the present in Goa and the attitudes of the Goan Catholic church. Your quote: Casteism, understood as lack of respect for persons of so-called lower caste, is a sin. .. And ... Today casteist mentality is not so strong as it was in my childhood. I fully concur with your post. I also applaud you for displaying our Catholic teachings and manifesting again that our religion considers caste discrimination like all other discrimination a sin. We have been getting a lot of loaded nonsense from some Catholic laity of late in cyberspace. All of them are living outside Goa and they think they are smart. This abuse is hurled on Goa's church prehaps because the Goan priests have just chosen to stay silent rather that confront these allegations piously and if necessary vehemently. I applaud you for not engaging in private posts as some claim Goa's priests and nuns do - though I don't buy that statement for a minuite - aka lagao bhathi. But now that you have spoken, the same are saying borem padre ani many thanks! Please keep it up. Christ died for us. We can at least stand for Him and His Church. Thanks, GL Cornel Fr. Ivo Da C. Souza, Many thanks for your endorsement of my position/struggle against casteism. I do wish other Goan priests (including ex-priests), nuns and bishops would be able to do the same. Cornel DaCosta, London Message: 9 Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2005 22:30:21 +0530 From: Fr. Ivo Da C. Souza [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Goanet]Genuine meaning of Easter To: goanet@goanet.org Reply-To: goanet@goanet.org I do endorse your struggle against casteism. Caste is there, to some extent, ingrained in our society. It is difficult to eradicate it totally from our minds and hearts. But I know that Christian message has been a leaven for the traansformation of our society. Casteism, understood as lack of respect for persons of so-called lower caste, is a sin (whether in the religious/theological or secular sense), just as racism is. Today casteist mentality is not so strong as it was in my childhood. Yet, I remember well, our Catholic families would not allow us to speak of caste and dwell in it. We had friends from all types of families, even among Hindu boys and girls. Let us be united and fight against casteism and communalism... Ivo da C.Souza
[Goanet]Picnic is this Sunday, April 3rd - GOA LA
0 00 Hello everyone, Just a quick note to remind you that our picnic is this Sunday, April 3rd at the Veterans Park in Redondo Beach. Date: April 3rd, 2005. Venue: Veterans Park 309 Esplanade, Redondo Beach, CA 90277. Time: 11am Onwards. Attached is a copy of the flier with additional details. There is no cost to attend this event and it's open to members and non-members. It's a potluck picnic, so please bring some food to share. Looking forward to seeing you on the 3rd. The weather promises to be sunny and we can make the most of the ocean breeze and delicious home-cooked Goan food. Ralph Figueiredo. President - Los Angeles G.O.A. 26602 Athena Avenue, Harbor City, CA 90710. http://www.goacom.com/goa-la [EMAIL PROTECTED] 310-534-0358 Fwd. rene barreto
[Goanet]Travelling with Kids to Goa ? ...read on.
0 Friends ! It gives me great pleasure to introduce you to Dea Berkett (I am sure Eddie Fernandes must have shared her posts on the Goan Voice Uk - at some time. ) Dea Birkett - has travelled to Goa and has become a friend of Goa and mine too ! Dea will be joining us in our WORLD GOA DAY event - Festival of Goa celebrations here in London later this year .We are hoping that many other friends of Goa and Goans will join us toomore later. A small introduction == Dea Birkett is a writer and broadcaster -contributes to newspapers and magazines, both in Britain and abroad. Dea's weekly Guardian column here in the UK , Travelling with Kids - http://www.guardian.co.uk/ has huge reader feedback. Dea is also a regular reviewer and commentator on BBC Radio 4. I hope I can convience Dea to join our e-group * Goanet * : - ) But in the meantime - please visit : Dea ' s Goa trip at : http://travel.guardian.co.uk/saturdaysection/story/0,8922,1395616,00.html Travelling with kids - to Goa http://travel.guardian.co.uk/saturdaysection/story/0,8922,1417445,00.html For full details visit Dea's webiste. http://www.deabirkett.com/about.htm If you know of or produce any guides to your area yourself, either go to the Travelling with Kids Forum to let everyone know, or send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] rene barreto www.goaday.com
[Goanet]Goanet News Bytes * Mar 31, 2005 * Goa's political constituencies get re-drawn
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WHAT'S IN TODAY'S ISSUE: Goa's political constituencies
get re-drawn ... who's game and what will the impact be?
Digambar joins the Congress in Margao, but not all are
happy. Cases against BJP vandalism get dropped, even
if the party's out of power. Obituaries too.
REDRAWING GOA'S POLITICAL CONSTITUENCIES: The delimitation for Goa's two
parliamentary constituencies and the assembly constituencies for Goa has
been finalised by the Election Commission of India, and is being published
tomorrow. State Election Commissioner PM Borkar said the delimitation is now
final and cannot be challenged in any court. The names of the parliamentary
constituencies -- Panaji and Mormugao -- have been changed to North Goa
and South Goa respectively. Both parliamentary constituencies have 20
assembly segments each. Priol (in Ponda) has been shifted to North Goa.(NT)
In the assembly constituencies, two new constituencies of Dabolim and
Porvorim have been created. Major changes have been effected in some
other segments. Poinguinim in South Goa and Dabolim in North Goa
have been done away with. Loutolim has been renamed as Nuvem while
Pernem will be reserved for Scheduled Castes. There is no reserved
seat for scheduled tribes. Porvorim and Dabolim are the new assembly
constituencies created. (H)
o Ex BJP MLA Digambar Kamat joins Congress in Margao. Veteran
Congressman Santosh Pai Raiturkar quits the party. (H)
o Sulking Churchill boycotts Digambar's homecoming. (GT)
o Why is the vandalism at the Goa University still unsolved?
Herald's Robin Abreu reports on the Dec 23, 2004 assault on Goa Univ
Microbiology professor Dr Joe D'Souza. (H)
o Mines' closure could render 10,000 jobless. Herald continues with
its campaign, following the Supreme Court judgement against
mines operating illegally. (H)
o Indian among probables for Pope's post. Mumbai Archbishop
Ivan Dias' name is in the list of those likely to succeed
Pope John Paul II. (PTI and Reuters)
o Goa all set to implement Value Added Tax. (NT)
o Don't spoil Goa's image, Governor tells political parties. (NT)
o Goa's former BJP ministers Francis D'Souza and Dayanand
Mandrekar, and Tivim MLA Sadanand Shet Tanavade charge-sheeted
after Hotel Mandarin proprietor Mathew Braganza approached the
Bombay High Court. (GT)
o Gomantak Times' comment: If Naguesh Karmali and his merry men,
with the tacit and covert approval of then Chief Minister
Manohar Parrikar and the BJP, destroyed Portuguese road signs
and inflicted and implemented them with Hindu ones with gay
aplomb, they did so because you and I preferred to draw our
blinds, safe that our lives wouldn't be changed. (GT)
YUCK! WHAT A MUCK: Bridge to nowhere -- Submerged in
muck and debris, the Patto bridge, which was hurriedly
constructed for IFFI 2004 will remain closed for
vehicular traffic until the completion of the
remaining work. (GT)
Another report: Heta Pandit and Co, are you too
scared to challenge the vandalism of the RSS? (GT)
o MARCH 30 HEADLINES: BJP office raided over Neri forgery case,
says DIG * Mapusa vandalism: Francis, Mandrekar and Tanavade
charge-sheeted * Jennifer Monserrate (wife of former BJP minister
Babush) is North Goa zilla parishad chairperson. Lourenco
becomes South Goa ZP chief. * Brazil trains guns on Dempo over
Junior's death. Reports emerging from Brazil have indirectly
accused Dempo of fielding Junior for the fatal match, despite
knowledge of injuries from an earlier encounter. * Charges
filed in Mapusa case over assault by BJP and supporters
over Mandarin hotel. * Churchill hits out at Faleiro over
Joe's defeat in SGZP.
MALA VANDALISM CASE CLOSED: In a very surprising decision,
the Goa police have closed the case of vandalism
apparently indulged in by members and sympathisers of
the Sangh Parivar at Fontainhas-Mala, Panjim
nine months ago. Deputy IGP Muktesh Chander said the
case was sent to the court as 'A Final' for lack of
[Goanet]Goa Police now has Public Grievances Officers
-- Documented by Goa Desc Resource Centre Ph:2252660 Website: www.goadesc.org Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Press Clippings on the web: http://www.goadesc.org/mem/ -- DGP appoints public grievances officers The Director General of Police, Mr Umesh Kumar Katna has designated public grievances officers in North and South Goa besides one at police headquarters, Panaji. Mr Sharad Agarwal (SP, North) will take care of aggrieved citizens in North Goa, Mr D P Verma (SP South) in South Goa and Mr A K Gawas (SP) at police headquarters, Panaji. In a press note issued here stated that any member of the public who had approached any police station or unit of the Goa police department, and is aggrieved by the response or affected by the action or inaction in delivering of services, has been asked to approach these officers on every Tuesday from 10 a.m. to 1 p.m. The members of general public are also urged to use complaint boxes installed at the police headquarters, offices of SP, North (Porvorim), SP, South (Margao), sub-divisional police officers at Panaji, Porvorim, Mapusa, Bicholim, Ponda, Margao, Vasco and Quepem. Mr Agarwal will attend to public grievances at Porvorim between 10 a.m. and 1 p.m. on every Tuesday. Public may even contact the SP on phone number 2416100. Mr D P Verma will attend to public grievances on every Tuesday between 10 a.m and 1 p.m. The SP can be contacted on phone number 2732218. Mr A K Gawas will attend to public grievances in Panaji at the Goa Police Headquarters between 10 a.m. and 1 p.m. every Tuesday. He may even be contacted on phone number 2428124. -- The Navhind Times 31/03/05 page 3 -- --- GOA CIVIC AND CONSUMER ACTION NETWORK --- an initiative of GOA DESC RESOURCE CENTRE to promote civic and consumer rights in Goa --- GOACAN Post Box 78 Mapusa, Goa 403 507 Tel: 2252660 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] website: www.goacan.org ---
[Goanet]Gomantak Times re-opens People's Court
Some months back the enterprising Editor of Gomantak Times, Sujay Gupta, threw open a People's Court to protest against the high handed attitude of the Goa Police. The response from the public was tremendous. Today's (31st march 2005) Gomantak Times has a re-opening of the People's Court in response to the closure of the Mala-Fontainhas Vandalism and Road Re-naming Case. If you feel strongly about the issue read below and send your feedback to Sujay at [EMAIL PROTECTED] and also to other public forums. Sujay's appeal is posted verbatim below. Cecil - People's Court: Why are you afraid of uttering this four letter word: STOP During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act. -- George Orwell When your curtains are tightly drawn, it doesn't matter if there is sunshine outside or darkness. Ensconced in your own private 'safe' world you let violence, greed, hatred, vandalism, goondaism go unchallenged and unaccounted. Why? Because it happens to someone else. Because your walk to the bakery, your chat in the evening, your daily outing to the tavern, your work in office is important. Because the security of your own routine can't be traded for the security of the environment you live in. It is in these conditions that vandals, looters, anti socials and religious bigots often under the garb of organizations like the RSS or the Mala Nagrik Action Committee thrive. And they inflict wounds that fester in an atmosphere of silence. And disinterest. If Naguesh Karmali and his merrymen, with the tacit and covert approval of the then Chief Minister Manohar Parrikar and the BJP, destroyed Portuguese road signs and inflicted and implanted them with hindu ones with gay aplomb, they did so because you and I preferred to draw our blinds, safe that our lives wouldn't change. They defaced your walls and raped your social fabric because you and I were too busy leading our lives. In the full glare of daylight, they defied law and went on a rampage because you and I did not have the guts, or the will power, or the desire to utter this four letter word: STOP The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing. And all of you, especially the secure and the rich and the good of Mala-Fontainhas are guilty of doing nothing. You saw the signboards getting removed, you saw your walls getting destroyed, and you saw new signs coming up against the law. You saw it all. And then went back home and drew your curtains. It is acts like these that encourage vandals. Today, it is a signboard in Fontainhas, tomorrow it will be your home. And day after it will be your family. Will you wake up only when goondas tear down your curtains and force you to see the sunlight? As Mathew Braganza realised when his Mandarin hotel in Mapusa was destroyed, as our photographer realized when his camera was snatched by BJP activists, as Laxman Otavanekar, the reporter of Sunaprant realized when the Mandrem MLA Laxman Parsekar called him home and thrashed him for publishing an unpalatable story. The only consolation we in GT have is that we have never stopped fighting. We never drew our curtains so we are ever ready for vandals. And we did it on the basis of your strength. Your support. And we call for your support once again as we protest against the arbitrary and completely undemocratic decision to quash the Mala vandalism case. Like puppets who dance to the tune of their masters, the Goa police buried the Mala case. And drew their curtains. It is sad that the Mala Vandalism case has been closed for want of evidence. And this has happened because you fell silent. Because you too drew your curtains. This is a humble but a fervent appeal to come out of your homes and open your minds and hearts to these injustices. If you know what happened on June 18, 2004 at Mala, speak up. I am reopening the People's Court for you to write in. Let the truth prevail. The brave aren't afraid of lurking shadows. Create a mass movement that will force the Governors administration to reopen the Mala case. Even if you weren't an eyewitness, write and tell the whole of Goa what you think about the decision to quash the case. Every word counts. Bring the guilty to book. So that your children can live in a safer world, a more equal world. As the Spanish American philosopher and humanist George Santanya said Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it Please force the rogue elements who go about desecrating your Goa remember the past. So that they do not dare to repeat it. As always, mail your People's Court letters to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or post it to our office. We will carry them with courage. And with guts. Yours in solidarity, Editor
[Goanet]Problems faced by BSNL Subscribers of Nadora and Revora
-- Documented by Goa Desc Resource Centre Ph:2252660 Website: www.goadesc.org Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Press Clippings on the web: http://www.goadesc.org/mem/ -- Problems faced by BSNL Telephone Subscribers of Nadora and part of Revora The Telephone Subscribers of Nadora and part of Revora, that were earlier under the Colvale Telephone Exchange, are now under the Nadora Telephone Exchange since its inaugurations in July 04. Since day one of the functioning of the Nadora Telephone Exchange we are facing numerous problems. Verbal and sometimes written complaints to the linesman at Nadora, the JTO at Colvale and the authorities in Mapuca have not been of any use. We are disturbed umpteen times a day with the ringing of the telephone, announcing yet another wrong call or at times it is a cross connection. We receive inflated bills because the calls may go to a wrong number or get cut off in the middle of a conversation,or the line is very noisy etc. Very often calls made to us are diverted to wrong numbers. We also find the line dead or without dial tone more often than not. Those having internet facilities have even more headaches, because very often we are unable to access the net or it is too slow to down load matter etc. We were given to understand that the new exchange was opened to give us better service since we are quite far from the Colvale Telephone Exchange; but reality is quite different, in fact it is a nightmare with the phones ringing even at midnight. We are now at the end of our patience and hope the powers that be take notice of our problems. Maria Lobo Convenor Revora Nadora Consumer Cell. --- GOA CIVIC AND CONSUMER ACTION NETWORK --- an initiative of GOA DESC RESOURCE CENTRE to promote civic and consumer rights in Goa --- GOACAN Post Box 78 Mapusa, Goa 403 507 Tel: 2252660 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] website: www.goacan.org ---
[Goanet]Keeping Up With The Jones'
If you can't grow horizontally, then growing vertically must be the way. Back then, it was the Americans - or more so, the New Yorkers, who came up with the idea of making the most of whatever little space there was, in a tiny area named Manhattan. And so, skyscrappers were born. But these days, it appears that Asians are battling each other for the title of having the tallest building in the world in their corner. Here are two news items, I came across this morning 1) http://www.guardian.co.uk/international/story/0,3604,1447712,00.html 2) http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=storycid=540ncid=721e=7u=/ap/20050330/ap_on_re_mi_ea/emirates_tallest_skyscraper Does India really need one of these? Jim Fernandes. New York.
[Goanet]Cristiano Junior's family seeks compensation
Cristiano Junior's family seeks compensation M. Chhaya in Kolkata | March 31, 2005 15:20 IST The family of Cristiano Junior, Dempo Sports Club's Brazilian footballer who died while playing in December, is seeking compensation from the club for ignoring his old injuries. Junior's family claims that Dempo officials ignored an earlier injury sustained by the ace footballer and made him play the final of the Federation Cup against Mohun Bagan. During the final, Junior was involved in a collision with Bagan goalkeeper Subrata Paul and collapsed in a heap. He died in a Bangalore hospital later. The autopsy report stated the cause of death as cardiac failure, but now it emerges that Brazilian authorities carried out another post-mortem and its report contradicts that claim. Kolkata's Bengali newspapers, quoting Junior's brother from Brasilia, said the Brazilian autopsy report found that the deceased footballer had sustained a head injury prior to the final -- a finding that wasn't mentioned in the Indian autopsy report. The injury resulted in a blood clot, but Dempo officials ignored it and asked Junior to play in the final. Junior was hurt in the head again in the collision with the goalkeeper. Junior's brother, who expressed surprise that no Indian football official contacted the family in recent times, said they were speaking to lawyers to prepare a case for compensation claim. Indian football authorities had said they would provide financial assistance to Junior's family, but so far nothing has been done. We don't want the money. Let it be given to Junior's wife, Juliana. She needs it, the footballer's elder brother was quoted as saying. -- Using Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/mail/
Re: [Goanet] Jose Colaco's REAL Faux Nooj
--- Mario Goveia [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: d) You, and your other staunch defenders of AIDS-infected drug users would have understood from posts by Gabriel and Viviana that the hoax email was irrelevent to the suggestion that people watch their behinds when sitting in public places. The above statement of Mario Goveia constitutes the shameless spreading of an intentional, malicious lie to insult those of us who have exposed the alarmist hoax perpetrated by him in this public forum. This statement of his also appears to be borne out of prejudice against the unfortunate folk who are suffering from AIDS and have become addicted to drugs. Thus, for an accomplished PREVARICATOR like yourself, who spreads and supports falsehoods and insinuations that there is no risk from infected needles in public places, you have some nerve calling me a liar. It has become amply clear from the information provided by responsible governmental and non-governmental agencies such as the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, and AVERT, that the risk of getting infected with HIV from discarded needles in public places is extremely low. These agencies have not recorded even a single such case in the entire world in the last 25 years, i. e. since the first recognition of the existence of AIDS in humans. No public warnings or alarms have been sounded at any time by these agencies about any such risk from discarded needles in public places with specific regard to HIV/AIDS. The rest of us are left to wonder why you and the usual suspects that you are intellectually in tune with were so bent out of shape at the simple common-sense suggestion that people watch their behinds when they sit in a public place. On the contrary, most reasonable people know that there is nothing commonsensical about sounding false or unnecessary alarms in public, and gratuitously exaggerating a miniscule amount of risk. In fact, such actions are considered to be irresponsible. Cheers, Santosh
[Goanet]RE: de deliteful dabolim duck ani Gabriel's article with pics
I invite you to read the TGF ani Xacuti Bozo Singh Harder-Talk interview of The Goan Forum http://www.colaco.net It deals with this whole LIE issue (attention those who believe that Lying is OK) BTW: Please look at the left column - TGF is pleased to advise that Gabriel's contribution on Dabolim is now uploaded along with the photographs of Dabolim Airport 1958, 1959 + pics of TAIP (Goa's only civilian airline - to date) planes. There is also a pic of Diu Air Traffic Control destroyed by IAF jets (based in Poona) Please note that all the credits are not yet acknowledged and that Gabriel de Figueiredo has advised us that this is only a draft presentation. your comments welcome jc ps: de dabolim Duck == Gilbert Menezes wrote As usual, your generalisations are based on lack of knowledge of local conditions. All civilian workers in the Naval base are hired through open advertisements in the newspapers. JC's questions DUCKED thus far by the 'in the know' Gilbert Menezes: Could you please, Gilbert, post a copy of the last Advert in the Goa Newspapers for civilian posts at Dabolim. And since you have the Knowledge (which I lack), could you please ask for data on Goan applicants and appointments. One more question - while you are at it - When you next visit the club, please find out HOW the consession stalls are awarded. IF you find an OPEN advert for those stalls, do let us know. Unless special qualifications are needed to run those stalls. _ Dont just search. Find. Check out the new MSN Search! http://search.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200636ave/direct/01/
Re: [Goanet]False news about US tells India, drop dead
--- Gabe Menezes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: US tells India, drop dead, March 28, 2005 A friend, usually upbeat about India-US relations, sent me an angry mail over the weekend after President George Bush called up Prime Minister Manmohan Singh on the evening of March 25 to inform him that the US had decided to supply F-16 fighter jets to Pakistan and Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice, in an interview to The Washington Post, dismissed concerns about the fallout of the American decision. Mario replies: Gabe, for reasons that I have not yet figured out, you are continuing a relentless drumbeat of negatively slanted news about the US relationship with India, often twisting the truth in order to do so. This post on Goanet by you is especially slanted by the omission of any mention of the US offers to India that were concurrent with the offer to Pakistan. The following is an Editorial from The Indian Express of March 29, 2005, which makes my point. Not only has the US NOT told India to drop dead as the subject line of your post falsely asserts, the Bush administration has, on the contrary, offered to help make India a world power (see third paragraph below). The editor of Indian Express is concerned that India will refuse the US offer, a far cry from the impression you have sought to create. If you have a shred of shame left, you would send a copy of the editorial to your friends who you claim keep feeding you this stuff. US has made an offer We need to consider it seriously. That would be the best way to test American intentions India should take a serious look at the US offer to supply 126 multi-role combat aircraft to India. After all, this will only extend Indias choices. If two US companies Lockheed Martin with its F-16 and Boeing with its F-18 join the bidding, the Indian Air Force could expect other companies already in the fray to come up with even more attractive terms. If the proposal from either Lockheed or Boeing turns out to be the best in the competition, in terms of price, reliability, and technology transfer, India would have every reason to buy a major weapons platform from the US for the first time. This talk of the US offer fuelling a fresh arms race on the subcontinent also does not quite make sense. The very fact that New Delhi and Islamabad might be buying weapons from the US seems to make a lot of people in the subcontinent uneasy. But stranger things have happened. For more than a decade, Russia has been selling similar fighter aircraft to both India and China. That hasnt led to an arms race between New Delhi and Beijing. There are only three major centres of advanced arms production the US, Europe and Russia. As a result, India, Pakistan and China would want to leverage the best possible deals with these sources for their inevitable defence modernisation. India would be unwise to refuse the American offer and reduce its choices. With its obsession over the transfer of F-16s to Pakistan, the government has glossed over the rare offer from the Bush administration to make India a world power. During her talks in New Delhi on March 16, US Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice had spelt out this new approach. But the government has preferred to strike an injured posture over the transfer of F-16s to Pakistan rather than engage with the Rice proposals. Besides a long-term defence-industrial partnership, the Bush administration is offering to sell nuclear reactors to India and enhance New Delhis global standing. For sceptics in the government this is a mere sop. But all indicators over the last few years especially the Bush administrations National Security Strategy of 2002 and the recent US National Intelligence Council report predicting the dramatic rise of India and China by 2020 suggest a strategic assessment on Americas part that a stronger India is in its national interest. If New Delhi were to scoff at this offer, it would indicate a myopia of a very high order. Instead, it should be negotiating on the new US proposals in a serious and open manner. That would be the best way to test American intentions.
[Goanet]Goa:Marine Pollution Management Needed
-- Documented by Goa Desc Resource Centre Ph:2252660 Website: www.goadesc.org Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Press Clippings on the web: http://www.goadesc.org/mem/ -- Goa:Marine Pollution Management Needed by Nandkumar Kamat There were two incidents related to petroleum hydrocarbons last week. The first one was a case of moral pollution of Goan society and the police. The second one was the marine pollution from the accidental oil spill in Aguada bay. The first case was sensational because it proved once again that there is neither political nor bureaucratic will to finish the petroleum adulteration mafia. At Mashel, the police had raided and confiscated several barrels of diesel stored illegally. But the sealed barrels were clandestinely replaced after the panchnama with identical barrels of water. The essence of this strange case is that moral pollution has not spared the guardians of law. There are remedies to mitigate marine pollution but not moral pollution. Ironically, it took the merchant vessel, Maritime Wisdom to instill some wisdom in the Goa administration in the form of negative national and international publicity about the oil slick, which would have impacted the tourism industry. Goa gets the highest number of domestic tourists during May. Deposition of the tar balls on the beaches of Goa after the recent oil spill may take some time. There was some confusion in reporting the oil spill incident and its subsequent progress. A section of the media rewrote the geography of Goa by 'shifting' the islands in the bay of Marmagoa to somewhere near the Canacona and Karwar coast. The exact boundaries of Marmagoa and Panaji minor ports were also inaccurately reported. Grande island, where part of the oil slick reached is within a sensitive area from a defence angle. None of the islands in the Marmagoa bay are patrolled either by the marine police wing or the Indian Navy. Oil pollution in the Arabian sea (called north Indian ocean) is well-documented by the oceanographers. Dr Sengupta and the former director of NIO, Dr S Z Quasim have catalogued the health of the Indian ocean (Chapter 8, The Indian Ocean, volume 1, Oxford and IBH, 2001). Any interested government officer could easily understand this article if a long-term disaster mitigation plan is to be drawn. Fortunately, the weather and sea conditions were favourable to disperse the oil slick. The Indian coast guard were prompt and efficient in controlling the spill. Even in June 1993 when the oil carrying vessel, Sea Transporter drifted close to Sinquerim beach, the Indian Coast Guard had pumped out hundreds of tonnes of thick, viscous furnace oil despite heavy monsoon showers. The entire North Goa tourism industry had held its breath till the operation was completed. But no lessons were learnt from this disaster. Then another vessel, River Princess appeared on the horizon and became a legend of sorts. The ministry of environment and forests, government of India had issued clear guidelines in 1989 on how to deal with oil pollution. Section 8 deals with routine monitoring of petroleum hydrocarbon inputs entering into harbours. Sub-section 8.3 asks for contingency plan for major oil spillage at sea. Sub-section 8.5 suggests a co-ordination authority for pollution abatement in case of oil spillage. Section 10 deals with accidents. If the state government were to have the previous record of accidents, collisions on the sea then contingency plan could have been put in action. The Maritime Wisdom oil spillage case would not be the last such case. The probability of a major oil spill near the coast of Goa is very high because of the heavy supertanker traffic close to the coast. So far, no major tanker disaster has been reported. About 35 per cent of global marine transport of oil from the Middle East takes place along the Arabian sea tanker routes. It is wishful thinking to believe that there will not be any accident and any marine or coastal pollution when annually, oil cargo of one billion metric tonnes is transported within just a few kilometres from the coastline of Goa. The entry of oil in the Arabian sea from operational discharges has been about a million tone annually. This results in an estimated formation of 3700 tonnes of tar balls, annually. Due to currents, these are deposited on the beaches during the monsoon. How frequently have oil slicks been sighted close to Goa? The Japan oceanographic centre has reported that during 1975-80, on 495 out of 611 occasions, oil slicks were sighted in a sample quadrat close to Goa. This is highest frequency of oil slicks in the Indian Ocean. It is higher than even the transects surrounding Sri Lanka which is close to the supertanker
[Goanet]Bhupathi-Woodbridge lose
Bhupathi-Woodbridge lose March 31, 2005 13:59 IST Mahesh Bhupathi and Todd Woodbridge of Australia went down against third seeded Jonas Bjorkman and Max Mirnyi in men's doubles quarterfinal of the USD 3.45 million Nasdaq-100 Open tennis tournament at Key Biscayne, Miami. Bhupathi and Woodbrige, the fifth seeds, were defeated by the Swede-Belarussian pair 4-6, 6-7 (8-10), according to information received in New Delhi on Thursday. In the semifinals, Bjorkman and Mirnyi will face the winners of the match between top seeds Mark Knowles of Bahamas and Canadian Daniel Nestor and Spaniards Feliciano Lopez and Rafael Nadal. -- Using Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/mail/
[Goanet]JCT rally past Vasco
JCT rally past Vasco March 30, 2005 20:27 IST Costly lapses by Vasco defenders helped JCT to rally and score a 2-1 win in the ninth National Football League match in Margao on Wednesday. After a listless first half, where both the teams wasted one scoring chance each, Vasco took the lead in the 63rd minute through Francis Fernandes. JCT restored parity in the 70th minute after Vasco goalkeeper Virender Singh managed to block a Sukhjinder Singh free kick, but the weak clearance went to Julius Akpel who darted in and shot home to restore parity. Vasco defence again lost concentration soon when a combined move by substitute Jaswinder Singh and Alexander Jebba caught them off guard. Jaswinder Singh after entering the box squared the ball to Jebba who slammed in from close to put JCT 2-1 ahead. Vasco who had better ball possession combined well upfront through Fabio Soares and Sidney Rodrigues but were allowed little space by the rival defenders. And whenever they broke the shackles they were frustrated by alert 'keeper Mansuru, who twice denied Rodrigues. Today's win took JCT's tally to 21 points from 14 matches while Vasco, who suffered their 8th defeat, remained on 11th place with 12 points. -- Using Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/mail/
[Goanet]Breaking News - Helicopter crash kills congress ministers!
O P Jindall and Surinder Singh, congress ministers, killed in a helicopter crash. The helicopter crashed in UP on its way to Delhi from Haryana. Pilot T S Chauhan died on the way to the hospital. Haryana and Congress expressed shock at the tragedy. Avelino Bastora/Kuwait
[Goanet]India scores high on tourism
TOI has a brief report today titled India scores high on tourism (and) IT. A gist of selected contents: 1. In 2003/4 India was No 1 in remittance receipts accounting for a massive 20% of global flows. 2. India is 18th among the world's leading exporters of services, up from 27th in 1990. 3. India is well on its way to becoming one of the top 10 tourism exporting countries. Currently 4.5 million Indians travel abroad, exceeding the number of foreign tourist arrivals in India. Foreign tourists in India spent $4.1 billion. But Indians spent $3.5 billion on foreign travel account (including business travel). India has become the 2nd fastest growing tourism economy in the world. Given the foregoing, it stands to reason that Goa has a significant part to play in keeping tourism receipts high on behalf of the country. Hence, a concerted attack needs to be mounted in the first instance on the Great Goan Bottleneck. (No prizes for guessing which one!).
[Goanet]Indian to umpire at Wimbledon.
http://in.rediff.com/sports/2005/mar/30ump.htm Wadhera to umpire at Wimbledon March 30, 2005 19:24 IST Birbal Wadhera, a tennis umpire from Chandigarh, has been selected for umpiring at the Wimbledon Tennis Championships in London, from 13th to 17th June, 2005. Birbal is one of the few Indian umpires who has been selected for this honorable International assignment, a Chandigarh Lawn Tennis Association (CLTA) spokesman said in Chandigarh on Wednesday. He has been umpiring international tennis tournaments such as the Davis Cup, Fed Cup, ATP Tour, WTA Tour, ATP Challengers, ITF Futures and ITF Satellites in Asian countries. Wadhera holds the ITF White Badge for umpiring. He is the product of the Chandigarh Lawn Tennis Association. Besides umpiring he is an international tennis coach as well, who has worked with the National Tennis Academy and the CLTA. -- Cheers, Gabe Menezes. London, England
[Goanet]Claste ... the modern version of caste?
Thanks to Cecil Pinto for sending me this link: http://www.natsoc.org.au/html/publications/occasionalpapers/inequality.html#Claste The global claste system Claste is a neologism, a combination of class and caste. Like the Hindu caste system, there are four main clastes. Loosely, these are the super-rich,6 the system analysts, or highly skilled workers, 7 the lesser-skilled workers,8 and a reserve army of undernourished, mostly illiterate human beings.9 Unlike the caste system, clastes are generally defined by wealth and power, rather than birth, and similar to the class system, movement between clastes is possible; unlike the class system, the claste system is global. The downward pressure on low-skilled wages, fuelled by still-rising populations in poor countries, together with the lowering of tariffs, contributes substantially to the historically low inflation rates in wealthy countries. Globalisation has increasingly permitted wealthy countries to import goods and services relying on offshore labour. Naturally, this contribution of off-shore exploitation is rarely, if ever recognised by self-congratulatory economists and politicians in the countries which benefit. Offshoring of production also means the externalities of social agitation from poverty and environmental pollution are easier to ignore. The industrial accident in Bhopal, India (Kumar, 1993; Raina et al., 1997) was much easier and cheaper for Union Carbide to contain than if it had occurred in Louisiana. At the same time, India's lower safety standards increased the accident likelihood and enabled higher profits to be made. The powerful and wealthy have created a system with three key pillars which contribute to increasing inequality. These are the manipulation of trade barriers, the freeing of impediments to the flow of capital from North to South and the prohibition of reverse migration by low-skilled workers. This system makes possible the export of low-paid and often illegal guest workers to wealthy countries, to undertake menial jobs. It also encourages the export of skilled workers, particularly trained in medicine and science, trained in the South. Rather than being defended, this chain of exploitation is touted as being of mutual benefit for rich and poor. But the exploitation of those at the bottom represents a human rights atrocity that, in absolute numbers, imprisons an unprecedented number of people in comparative poverty, probably by more than an order of magnitude compared to the peak of the officially recognised slave trade. Prices paid by wealthy countries for primary products exported mainly from developing countries are also comparatively low, while those of elaborately transformed goods from wealthy countries are comparatively expensive. Prices are set by supply and demand, but the more powerful market players exert disproportionate influence. These include depressing prices by stimulating over-supply (eg woodchips) and by dumping excess produce, sometimes in the form of aid, consequently undercutting and harming local producers. Frequently, capital-intensive industry in the South is controlled by the North and managed by a local elite with little interest in local development. The doctrine of market forces is used, without apology, to justify both higher wages for the global elite and lower wages for the deregulated masses; a very convenient economic principle
[Goanet]RE: Tum, Tuje Bailek Bhietai? (Sot Uloi)
Oxem zaunk karann kitem gai? Bailanchem fereferem? Bialechi Doth ani Dennem? Vo Baileanchia tondank lagche boldek don peg marun ogoch raupachi sonvoim? Vo Assun dhi, uxar sozmotam zalear sozmonk tanchea tondank konn lagtolo? -:) Avelino Bastora/Kuwait _ lino dourado [EMAIL PROTECTED] boroita: Mhojem sangnnem. Hanv xat'ti fuloun konnakuch xapodam sangunk huxar aslom. Ponn halinchea vorsamnim hanv bhivkutto zalam ani ulovpak legun bhietam mhonn lokak ghomon ailam. Hanv zolman bhivkutto zaunk na, ponn kazar zalea uprantuch bhivkutto zalam. (Hi ghozal bhienuch, bailechea nodre add boroitam) Sot Uloi...
[Goanet]Mongolian v/s Mongoloid - post 1913
Alfred de Tavares wrote: Cecil, Don't you mean Mongolian? Mongoloid is a person physically challenged at birth, who, among much suffering, is distinguished by an Mongol-like physionomy: Hence labelled 'mongoloid'. - Dear Alfred, Thanks for pointing that out but I believe you are mistaken. Referring to someone with Down's Syndrome as a Mongoloid is considered downright offensive today. Fred refers to a Webster's 1913 Dictionary to prove his point. Will someone please give Fred a more recent dictionary. Three minutes of Net research gave me these pointers. Mongolian would more correctly be used to refer specifically to the language/ culture/ food of Mongolia whereas Mongoloid is used with reference to the entire race. Cheers! Cecil --- http://www.wordreference.com/definition/mongoloid mongoloid A adjective 1 mongoloid characteristic of or resembling a Mongol; the mongoloid epicanthic fold 2 Mongoloid of or pertaining to or characteristic of one of the traditional racial division of humankind including especially peoples of central and eastern Asia 3 mongoloid of or relating to or suffering from Down Syndrome; a mongoloid child --- http://www.answers.com/topic/mongoloid Mon·gol·oid (mong'g?-loid', mon'-) adj. 1. Anthropology. Of or being a major human racial classification traditionally distinguished by physical characteristics such as yellowish-brown skin pigmentation, straight black hair, dark eyes with pronounced epicanthic folds, and prominent cheekbones and including peoples indigenous to central and eastern Asia. Not in scientific use. See Usage Note at race1. 2. Characteristic of or resembling a Mongol. 3. also mongoloid Offensive. Of or relating to Down syndrome. n. 1. Anthropology. A member of the Mongoloid racial classification. Not in scientific use. 2. also mongoloid Offensive. A person affected with Down syndrome. -- http://encyclopedia.laborlawtalk.com/Mongolian The term Mongolian can refer to: * a person, place or item from Mongolia * a member of the Mongolian people, known as the Mongols * the Mongolian language or the Mongolian alphabet Also, the pejorative terms mongoloid and mongolism were once used to describe, respectively, individuals with Down's syndrome and the syndrome itself. - http://www.bartleby.com/64/C006/046.html 6. Names and Labels: Social, Racial, and Ethnic Terms 46. Mongoloid In its anthropological sense, Mongoloid refers to the group of peoples indigenous to central and eastern Asia, some of whom in all probability crossed to the Western Hemisphere and populated North and South America. Like the other terms proposed by anthropologists in the 18th and 19th centuries as human racial classifications, Mongoloid is now considered outdated and potentially offensive. In particular, you should take care not to confuse Mongoloid with Mongolian, which is occasionally used in the anthropological sense but which primarily refers to the central Asian region of Mongolia or to its peoples. 1 The use of Mongoloid or Mongolism-capitalized or not-in a medical sense is now clearly offensive. The preferred term for the congenital disorder is now Down syndrome or, somewhat less acceptably, Down's syndrome. =
[Goanet]Perks over. Get back to Dabolim?
--- gilbert menezes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: No more from me about this dreary subject, which you know so little about.. regards, Gilbert. Gilbert, Thanks for closing the subject, which had absolutely no relevance to my queries, as mentioned by me time and again. And yes, I agree with you that I know very little about the perks, as I know very little about what I am about to ask you. Please answer my query of 26Mar2005, to wit Since the Navy has not condescended to make known the contents of this lease agreement to us civilians, we do not know how long this lease is for. Nor do we know its conditions as regards civilian use, nor who signed it on behalf of the Goa Govt. Perhaps Gilbert could contact his influential friends in the Navy and keep us informed? this, if you may recall, is in relation to Admiral Mehta referring to the existence of some lease document with respect to the Dabolim airport. Please note, there are absolutely no insinuations or hidden meanings in my query. I, and a lot of other people I am sure, would like to know if such a document exists. If there is such a document, then perhaps there are ways and means of coming to a compromise, or indeed, to justify an alternative airport for Goa, depending on its contents; otherwise, the Navy is indeed occupying Dabolim illegally, a conclusion also reportedly reached by the Goa State Govt. Gabriel de Figueiredo. Find local movie times and trailers on Yahoo! Movies. http://au.movies.yahoo.com
[Goanet]Civil Aviation Policy on the Anvil
http://www.business-standard.com/common/storypage.php?hpFlag=Ychklogin=Nau tono=184876leftnm=lmnu2leftindx=2lselect=0 PSU monopoly on jet fuel may end AVIATION policy to regulate air fares, airports Our Corporate Bureau / New Delhi March 31, 2005 The proposed Civil Aviation Policy envisages setting up an airport economic regulatory authority (AERA) to regulate air tariffs and performance standards for the domestic aviation sector. .. ... ... .. ... ... The Civil Aviation Policy will have clauses that will allow restructuring of airports under Airports Authority of India (AAI) to ensure improvement of infrastructure. .. ... ... .. ... ... Who is responsible for improvements at Dabolim .. the Navy or AAI?
[Goanet]Salt has lost its taste.
Between The Lines - Kuldip Nayar Salt has lost its taste. kuldip nayar | Wednesday, March 16, 2005 / cybernoon.com The nation was saved in Bihar from a moral obliquity. The Congress leadership realised that placating Laloo Prasad Yadav was not worth risking another onslaught on its integrity. India should have been in the midst of celebrations over the 75th anniversary of Mahatma Gandhi's Salt March which elevated the enslaved country to the height from where it could defy the mighty British empire. Instead, the country witnessed ugly personal and political wrangling over the formation of governments in a couple of states. The unfortunate coincidence was that it all happened around March 4, the day when Gandhiji started the march to articulate the principles like common man's right to manufacture salt. Why hark back to those days now when politics of power has practically ousted all those values? Still, I imagined that the Congress would have been chastened after being in the wilderness for years. When Congress president Sonia Gandhi said that her party would go back to the basics, and subsequently declined even the office of Prime Ministership, I was encouraged to believe that the Congress was again on the track. Although I saw too many familiar faces of the emergency days, I felt relieved after the party had said sorry. Slipping once again The jolt came when the Goa governor asked the Congress with a dubious majority to form the government there. Ultimately, he took the same decision which he should have on day one: impose President's rule and keep the state legislature in animated suspension. But why did he go wrong initially? Or, who forced him to go wrong? The Jharkhand governor should have been more circumspect. The Congress had already burnt its fingers in Goa. But he too was least concerned. Even when the BJP-led alliance paraded before him 41 members from the house of 81, he preferred the Congress combination of 40 on the ground that it would give a firmer government. This was his thinking. But the governor is a constitutional head and he cannot wish away the fact of numbers that determine a majority. Why did the governor act that way? Who spoke to him from Delhi? Some sort of suspicion arose because of the presence of Priyaranjan Dasmunshi, a central minister, at the Raj Bhavan when the governor was going over the exercise of determining who should be forming the government. I have personally known both the governors, S.C. Jamir in Goa and Syed Sibley Razi in Jharkhand. They are not given to histrionics. Nor do they act at the spur of the moment. Both are old Congress hands who did not soil their reputation even during the days of authoritarianism in the party. Someone must have communicated to them to act the way they did. Who would have been at the Delhi end? I am sure that Prime Minister Manmohan Singh and Sonia Gandhi did not call. Maybe, someone used his or her name, probably only Sonia Gandhi's. Manmohan Singh has said that the governors acted on their own. It is difficult to gulp this explanation. It is important for the Congress to get at the bottom of this because the party went awry in the same manner some years ago. Indira Gandhi was responsible for many things. But certain things were done in her name. She had to own them. Slowly and gradually, the Congress slid into a situation from where the emergency appeared the only escape route. Is the party slipping once again? However, the nation was saved in Bihar from a moral obliquity. The Congress leadership realised that placating Laloo Prasad Yadav was not worth risking another onslaught on its integrity. In protest, he absented himself from the Cabinet meeting where the decision to impose President's rule was taken. With 26 seats in the Lok Sabha, he had a clout in the ruling Untied Progressive Alliance (UPA). But its chairperson Sonia Gandhi refused to be blackmailed and did not budge. I do not know whether the Congress realises it or not, but its initial installation of governments in Goa and in Jharkhand have let the BJP occupy within 10 days the space which it had lost during its six-year-long misrule. The party boasts that both the developments have given it mileage. In democratic India, there can never be a Tiananmen Square. But what happened in Goa and Jharkhand are the type of incidents which the Congress government, like the regime at Beijing, cannot erase from people's memory. This is the cross the Congress will have to carry for a long time to come. The BJP that was making no headway either in the name of Hindutva or the mandir suddenly got a tailor-made situation to exploit. It paraded itself as the wronged party. But it was no a secret how the BJP - the caretaker BJP - in Jharkhand used the state machinery to collect independent MLAs and supervise the rest of the flock. It was obvious that the BJP wanted to keep attention focussed on Jarkhand, more to embarrass Delhi than to think of methods to avoid such
[Goanet]Goa Shipyards bags Defence Project
India set for a defence bonanza INDIATIMES NEWS NETWORK[ WEDNESDAY, MARCH 30, 2005 09:34:46 AM ] NEW DELHI: India announced a number of defence acquisitions and upgradations worth Rs 3,820 crore and decided to hold negotiations for the purchase of 12 French-made Mirage 2005 fighters from Qatar. The decision comes close on the heels of the US offering to sell F-16 or F-18 warplanes to India. The Cabinet Committee on Security, chaired by Prime Minister Manmohan Singh, also cleared the induction of nine offshore patrol vessels for the navy and the purchase of one C-303 submarine-fired torpedo decoy system from Italy. It also okayed the proposal to upgrade 14 aircraft carrier-based British-made Sea Harriers. Read full text at : http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/articleshow/msid-1065091,curpg-1.cms The government also cleared nine off-shore patrol vessels for the Indian navy to be made at Goa shipyards. The total cost of the first three will be Rs 1084 crore. The orders for the other six will be given later. Forwarded By Eddie Verdes
[Goanet]RE: Outside the group?
I hope the Blacks become affluent and redefine the connotation of beauty. Joshua has a friend who is Black and seems to like her.-:) I am sure your matrimonial flyer, in years to come, will be flooded for Black beauties.-:) Marrying a fair skin characteristically makes me a racist.-:) Avelino Bastora/Kuwait Frederick Noronha (FN) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Of course, who says we Goans don't have a racist tinge to our attitudes? On the other hand, if Blacks (negroes is pejorative in many parts of the planet) were very affluent, and defined what beauty meant, I guess a lot of us would be queueing up for matrimonial alliances ;-) FN
[Goanet]'Charas' most popular drug smoked in Goa
'Charas' most popular drug smoked in Goa http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/articleshow/1065310.cms PANAJI: Charas , smuggled from Manali and Nepal, is the most favourite drug smoked in Goa. The police have had a rich haul of some 42kg of charas during the first three months of the current year against 32 kg during the corresponding period last year. The police said that several foreigners and Indians were involved in the smuggling of the drug that is available in the coastal belt of North Goa that has the famed beaches. The drug is clandestinely peddled by foreigners, and also the locals at the rave parties and also in the small market centres. While eight Nepalese have been arrested, two Israelis, one Dutch, one British, one from Czech Republic and one more from Costa Rica were those who have been booked under the anti narcotic act. This year two Nigerians were also arrested. Some 16 Indians were also involved in the drug racket and being investigated. Police said trial of 17 persons were pending in the drug smuggling. The modus operandi, the police said, was to bring charas in briefcases and other baggage by road into Goa and these persons would usually be staying in city hotels. Some years ago the Goa police had drafted a detail report of the smuggling of Charas from Himachal Pradesh and Himalaya regions brought into Goa by individuals and groups with the help of links in Mumbai. The report had been forwarded to the Union home ministry for a nationwide alert. The foreigners largely visit the North before coming to Goa, with a break journey in Mumbai for the December end parties and the holidays during the winter months in the New Year, the report had said. Several foreigners indulged into the smuggling because selling charas in Goa involved a profit and ensured income to them during their stay. Forwarded By Eddie Verdes
[Goanet]Centrality of Airports
http://www.financialexpress.com/fe_full_story.php?content_id=86615 Soar for the skies with better airports Open skies + efficient airport infrastructure= total consumer satisfaction SEBASTIAN MORRIS Posted online: Thursday, March 31, 2005 .. ... ... .. ... ... But the big scope for improvement lies in the airports gearing up. They need to visualise the passenger and aircraft movement and flows, removing bottlenecks that currently reduce their capacities considerably. Planning for seamless integration with commuter (rail and bus) and taxi services, on which count our airports are ages behind airports elsewhere in East Asia or the advanced countries, would be most crucial in upping the value to consumers. Similarly, would the quality of shopping and services. Without these developments, the passenger could well be trading on(e) horrific experience -the Indian Railways for another-the airports of today. ---
[Goanet]Will Indian pontiff succeed Pope?
Will Indian pontiff succeed Pope? PTI MUMBAI: As Pope John Paul II remains hospitalised, the names of prelates from Asia, Africa and Latin America, including that of an Indian archbishop, figure in the list of those who are likely to succeed him, a media report said. Mumbai's archbishop Ivan Diaz, a friend of Mother Teresa, figures in the list, international weekly magazine BusinessWeek said in an article titled Why The Next Pope May Be A Surprise. When contacted, Diaz' office dismissed the report as 'rubbish' and said the archbishop will not entertain interviews on the matter. The rest of this article can be read @ http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/articleshow/1065420.cms --- Goanet - http://www.goanet.org - Goa's premier mailing list is 10 years old
