[Goanet]India beat Uzbekistan in Davis Cup

2005-05-01 Thread Eustaquio Santimano
India beat Uzbekistan in Davis Cup
Last Updated: April 30, 2005 16:37 IST
Leander Paes and Mahesh Bhupathi were not at their best but still proved  
to be good enough to clinch the doubles rubber and give India an  
unassailable 3-0 lead against Uzbekistan in the Davis Cup Asia-Oceania  
Group 1 second round tennis tie at the Jai Club in Jaipur on Saturday.

The former world number one pair with three Grand Slam titles under their  
belt, looked flat throughout and laboured their way to a 6-3, 6-4, 6-4 win  
against Murad Inoyatov and Denis Istomin to put India through to the World  
Group play-off in September.

Luckily for Paes and Bhupathi, the estranged friends who play with  
different partners on the ATP Tour and come together for team events, the  
Uzbek pair struggled to come to terms with the grass courts and never  
really posed a serious challenge to them.

The visitors had their upperhand when they pounced on Bhupathi's serve in  
the fourth game of second set, when the Indians seemed to relax and take  
the foot off the accelerator.

But Paes and Bhupathi quickly broke back and although the third set saw  
Inoyatov and Istomin come up with some solid serving and booming returns,  
their experienced rivals stepped on the gas at the right time to seal the  
issue.

"Certainly we did not play our best tennis, just adequate enough to come  
through," Paes said after the match.

"The opponents were not that highly experienced and when we went into the  
match we didn't have in mind of playing any fancy but solid tennis.

"We looked at it as another day in the office... it was a smooth sailing."
The victory meant Paes equalled Brazilian Tomas Koch's record of 74 wins  
to be joint eighth in the all-time Davis Cup list. But he is still four  
singles wins behind Ramanathan Krishnan who has a 50-19 win-loss record  
among the Indians.

Paes said he would definitely have his personal milestone in mind when he  
decides the combination for the reverse singles tomorrow.

"Harsh [Mankad] is ready to play," he said of the dilemma he was in.
"Of course it [the record] is in mind. The captain has a responsibility to  
the team but it also my own prerogative to rewrite history books.

"The record is not something that a modern player can think of. Davis Cup  
is my special stage," he said.

The Indians got an early break when an erratic serving Istomin served four  
double faults, including three on the trot, in the second game.

Paes' serve came under pressure in the sixth game when he was forced to  
save three break points before the first set was taken in 29 minutes.

But with the sun coming out in full, the surface played true and the  
bounce more reliable than it had been on the first day. That helped  
Istomin to play his forehands from the baseline and the Uzbek came up with  
some good returns as the Uzbeks kept pace with the Indians in the second  
set.

Inoyatov dropped serve in the third game with a double fault but  
Bhupathi's tentative serving and net play meant the visitors were  
immediately back on level scores.

Istomin saved two break points in the fifth game before Paes and Bhupathi  
mustered that much inspiration to raise their game a notch to find a break  
in the seventh game to go up 4-3.

It was only in the decider that Inoyatov and Istomin put up a semblance of  
a fight, the latter once again saving three break points.

The Indians were still looking like dead men walking, playing mostly from  
muscle memory. But sheer experience and the knowledge of having been the  
number one helped them force three more break points in the ninth game,  
and Bhupathi closed it out with a stunning return winner.

Bhupathi then comfortably served out the match, finishing it off with an  
ace.

India now have a fair chance of playing their play-off ties at home as  
they are due to play one of the eight World Group first round losers.

Out of the eight losers, India would play either at home against one of  
the five losers or away against any of the two teams. If they play the  
eighth team, the venue would be decided by toss.

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[Goanet]Shrinking Himalayan snow threatens fish off Goan coast

2005-05-01 Thread Melvyn Misquita

Shrinking Himalayan snow threatens fish off Goan coast

A HERALD REPORT
BY MELVYN MISQUITA

Could the melting snow cover in the Himalayas affect marine life thousands of
kilometres away?

Strange, but true. An abrupt decline in snowfall over the Himalayan mountain
range is threatening marine life in the distant waters of the Arabian Sea,
according to a study led by a Goan scientist, which appeared in the prestigious
journal Science a few days ago.

Read the full report at:

http://www.melvyn.misquita.in/works/2005/050430.html

In his email to me, Joaquim Goes had this to say: “Regarding our affilliation to
Goa, what I am hoping the article will convey is that you don't have to go to an
elite boarding school to get an education that will prepare you for the world.
Our tiny village schools can provide you that.”

Regards,
Melvyn

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[Goanet]Reviews of a violin event in Goa

2005-05-01 Thread Rui Lobo
I have just put up the webpage with the Reviews we received in the
newspapers about the David Menezes National Violin Competition, Goa 2005,
which was held on 27th Feb, 2005.

http://www.geocities.com/guitarguild/dmnvc_reviews
 
We also have the video of the whole competition performances on Video CD's -
a set of 2 video CD's.  We are suggesting a donation of Rs. 300/- for the
set, which will go to the GGG fund.
 
People can get in touch with me for the video and for comments about the
webpage at [EMAIL PROTECTED]

I am copying and pasting the report which I wrote about the competition
here. (it is also put up at the Reviews webpage).

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David Menezes National Violin Competition, Goa 2005  -A View from Backstage
by Rui Lobo
 
A lot has been written in newsprint about the David Menezes National Violin
Competition, Goa 2005, held on 27th February, so there is no need to say any
more about the audiences viewpoint about the event.  I will rather speak
about some things that I experienced as the Guitar Guild Goa's competition
Co-ordinator for this violin competition.

The question on everyone's mind was: What is a guitar guild doing with a
violin competition.  Well, we at the GGG were mooting an idea of a classical
guitar competition for a long time, since we regrouped ourselves in 2004. 
We met Cecilia Menezes who offered us an opportunity of hosting a violin
competition in memory of her late husband, David, assuring us of all
support.  David, an industrialist and a violinist, did great service to the
cause of music in his lifetime.

As GGG is always open to interact with other instrumentalists and vocalists,
we thought it would be a wonderful idea to start with a violin competition
and then have a guitar competition the following year and maybe a piano
competition the next, to complete a series in rotation, all at the National
level.

Preparation began with formulating the rules of the competition.  One of the
rules specified that in case of a tie the older competitor was to be given
the prize; this rule provoked discussion.  We wanted to project the idea
that this competition was intended for mature violinists.  In the normal
course of events the younger competitor always has more chances of getting a
prize.  We had response from violinists from age 8 to 80 for this
competition, but all could not be accepted as the minimum level of playing
ability was set at Grade 8.

Querozito D'souza worked on a wonderful competition brochure, which was
appreciated everywhere we sent it and which set the standard for the rest of
the organization.

We utilized the well established network of music teachers associated with
the Trinity and Royal schools boards to make known this competition; we had
response from many cities in India.  We tried to make the prizes attractive
enough to draw the best talent in violin -- Rs. 30,000, Rs. 10,000 and Rs.
5,000 for the 1st, 2nd and 3rd prize respectively.  This allotment of prize
money drew some questions too.  A few felt that there was too much
difference between the 1st and 2nd prize.  In most of the famous
competitions the world over the winner takes all and the competition is
known by the value of its 1st prize. We hope to be able to increase the
prize money every time.

Getting a panel of eminent musicians as judges for this competition was a
priority for GGG.  Due to the efforts of Margarida Miranda of Pro Musica, we
could synchronize this competition with the visit of two distinguished
musicians from U.K., Richard Ingham and Mary Macarthy, who were on a concert
tour of India.

The other two German judges, Prof. Ulf Klausenitzer and Hartmut Krause, both
acclaimed violinists, were invited by GGG as the specialist judges.  We
wished them to come not only as judges but to also share their expertise in
the field of music education, during their stay in Goa.  They wholeheartedly
agreed and conducted masterclasses for the participants and music teachers. 
Prof. Klausenitzer and Krause, were convinced of our good work and assured
us that they would like to come back and establish a long term work
relationship with India.  Prof. Klausenitzer also showed great interest in
learning more about Indian music and culture.

GGG is most grateful to these two very warm and generous persons; it was a
rare pleasure for me to interact with them during their week-long stay in
Goa.  Even though I do not play the violin, I learnt a lot about music, as a
passive participant of their masterclasses.

We had the collaboration of government run Kala Academy of Music and Dance,
Goa for the free use of their well refurbished auditorium for the Finals and
for the use of the 'Black Box' hall for conducting the Elimination round;
and of course the enthusiastic backing of Dr. Pandurang Phaldesai, its
Member Secretary.  In return, we offered to give the music students and
teachers of Kala Academy the benefit of our judges' expertise on 

[Goanet]Quality Internet bandwidth must for educational institutions: expert

2005-05-01 Thread rene barreto
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NT Staff Reporter



Panaji April 30: The professor at the Kanwal Rekhi School of Information
Technology, Indian Institute of Technology, Bombay, Prof D B Phatak said the
Internet has now replaced the library which was a place where maximum
knowledge could be accessed by the students during the last century.
Prof Phatak, who was delivering the inaugural lecture on the topic
'Education - Indian action agenda', during the day-long workshop on 'Quality
IT Education - Challenges Ahead', held in the city, today, observed that a
good quality Internet bandwidth is necessary for any educational
institution. The event was organised by the Goa Chamber of Commerce and
Industry (GCCI).


Speaking further, he lamented that the conventional education system is not
working and a complementary arrangement would be of great help, as changing
the conventional education set-up will require long time.


Prof Phatak also bemoaned that nothing is being done to increase the number
of students undergoing post-graduation as well as undertaking research,
pointing out that even the students being trained in one discipline of
engineering are not exposed to the other engineering departments, in the
same institution.

The speaker stressed on the need to recognise that the quality faculty is
getting scarce in the educational institutions and pulling the best faculty
together, building distribution infrastructure as well as developing an
eco-system are the requirements of the day. "In a globalised world, the
individual competence of a teacher should be allowed to find its own level,"
he added.

Prof Phatak also observed that the growth of the IT industry is exponential;
the industry professionals having a limited exposure and expertise to
technology, methodology and software skills.

"The education is all about thinking and applying mind, and the 21st century
definitely belongs to the people who are innovative," he remarked.

The lecture observed that there is no encouragement for the students to
express thoughts, attempt to solve difficult problems, imbibe social
discipline, undertake creative thinking and innovate.

The head of the Continuous Learning Programmes, TCS, Mr Vidyut Navelkar
spoke on 'Gap Analysis', while Dr V V Kamat from Goa University talked about
'Current problems'. Earlier, Mr Anil Seth welcomed the gathering.

The event also included a question and answer session as well as a panel
discussion on the issues raised. Those present for the workshop included end
users of the education products, select industry representatives and
scientific organisation members.

000

The Internet is GOOD for YOU !

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Re: [Goanet]Re: Cafeteria Catholics

2005-05-01 Thread Mervyn Lobo
"Fr. Ivo Da C. Souza" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I have a quick answer: there should not be
> "homosexual Catholic priests", but if there are,
>  as the media are publicizing, then homosexuality 
> does not cease to be "an aberration", "abnormal". 


Fr. Ivo da C. Souza,
Here in N. America, its estimated that 4 out of every
1,000 priests are homosexual. Many of them joined the
priesthood because they did not want to disclose to
their family that they were gay. I used to go to a
church in Washington, D.C. that had a gay priest. I
have no problems with gay priest if they keep their
vows of celibacy.

 
> Let the competent people investigate the causes and
> help them, with love and compassion. Let us also 
> study why there is such a wild propaganda, which 
> will not help the sick priests nor the Church of 
> God. What are the background factors for such an 
> aberration? Can we do something for them? It is 
> important to save them...as much as poor human 
> efforts are concerned...


There is a bigger problem than gay priests in the R.C.
Church. The church also has known paedophiles who
still are priests. Every time parishioners report such
paedophiles to the church authorities, the authorities
keep mum or, in the worst case scenario, transfer the
priests to another parish. In other words, the
paedophiles have new kids to prey on.


> It is our task, yours and mine!

Yes, I agree, it's both our tasks to keep the church
in order. Unfortunately, for the past 10 years, the
Vatican has been extremely slow in addressing the
problem of gays and paedophiles in its ranks.
 
Mervyn3.0



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[Goanet]Dempo edge past Fransa Pax

2005-05-01 Thread Eustaquio Santimano
Dempo edge past Fransa Pax
April 30, 2005 20:59 IST
Dempo Sports Club survived a scare in the dying minutes to edge past  
Fransa Pax 2-1 and stay in contention for the National Football League  
title, in Margao, Goa, on Saturday.

Dempo dominated the first half and took the lead in the 20th minute after  
initial resistance from the Fransa rearguard, when Clifford Miranda  
uncorked a fierce grounder that found the far corner of the net.

R C Prakash, Ranty Martins and Clifford Miranda combined well upfront as  
they harried the rival defence and Fransa 'keeper Kalyan Chaubey had to  
bring off saves off Prakash's attempts twice at the goal mouth and once  
from Riston Rodrigues.

However, Prakash increased the lead in the dying minutes of the first half  
when he tapped home a low cross from Martins.

Fransa, who could not test the rival keeper Satish Kumar seriously in the  
first half, pulled one back in the dying minutes when substitute Biju  
Kumar scored off a cross by Benjamin Ansa after man-of-the-match 'keeper  
Satish Kumar brought off a brilliant save off Joseph Igor.

With the win, Dempo moved to the second spot in the league standings  
behind Sporting Clube de Goa with 41 points from 19 matches.

Fransa remain in fifth place with 29 points from 20 matches.
Referee Pradip Kumar showed yellow cards to Fransa's Sanjeev Maria, Joseph  
Igor and Dempo's Bolaji Majeck.

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[Goanet]AICHEA DISSAK CHINTOP - May 1, 2005!

2005-05-01 Thread domnic fernandes
Ek ixtt tujem sogllem zannam astannam torui tuka man dita.
(A friend is one who knows all about you and still respects you)
Moi-mogan,
Domnic Fernandes
Anjuna/Dhahran, KSA
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Re: [Goanet]Many Happy Returns of the Day ....................CecilPinto

2005-05-01 Thread Vincent Andrade
Hi Cecil,

Many Many Happy Returns !
May the Good Lord Bless you with Many More Years of Service
to Humanity and May you find all answers to your questions !
May you have a Silver Lining round your Liver to protect it from the Aldona
Feni.
Have a Bottle on me !

Cheers and have a nice day.

Fondest Wishes
Vince






[Goanet]Konkan Railway's Monsoon Time Table 15 Jun 2005 - 31 Oct 2005

2005-05-01 Thread Lawrence Rodrigues
See
http://www.konkanrailway.com/website/press_2005/press_monsoon_ttbl_300405.htm

30th April, 2005

PRESS RELEASE


KONKAN RLY TO HAVE MONSOON TIME TABLE

 Keeping in mind the heavy monsoon in the Konkan region with far-reaching
effects on the strata and eventually on the train operations, Konkan Railway has
decided to implement a separate Monsoon Time Table on its route during the
monsoon season to ensure safety of passengers while maintaining punctuality as
per revised timings. The new time table will come into effect from 15th June
(train departure date from originating station) till 31st October.

 The salient features of the new time table are :

1)  2051 Dadar-Madgaon Janshatabdi Exp will run only on Monday, Thursday,
and Saturday.

2)  2052 Madgaon-Dadar Janshatabdi Exp will run only on Tuesday, Friday, and
Sunday.

3)  6337/6338 Okha-Ernakulam Exp will be partially cancelled between Hapa
and Okha.

4)  KR1/KR2 Mangalore-Verna passenger train will be partially cancelled
between Madgaon and Verna.

5)  Departure timings of following trains will be pre-poned from the
originating point :
TrainPresent Dep   Pre-poned Dep.
2052 Janshatabdi Exp  1410 hrs   1030 hrs
2620 Matsyagandha Exp   1440 hrs   1100 hrs
2617 Mangala Exp  1245 hrs1040 hrs
0112 Konkankanya Exp  1800 hrs   1630 hrs
0104 Mandovi Exp   1010 hrs  0830 hrs
KR4 Ratnagiri-Dadar   0610 hrs   0530 hrs
110 holiday special   1630 hrs  1500 hrs



IMP.: Passengers who have purchased tickets for journey between the dates 15th
June to 25th June should check the departure timings from nearby stations before
undertaking the journey .

The arrival and departure timings of various trains will be as follows and
detailed changed timings areavailable on www.konkanrailway.com

 MONSOON TIME TABLE OF KONKAN RAILWAY

Train  Dep Station  Arr. Station

·  6312 Trivandrum-Jodhpur  1515 hrs Trivandrum
1935 Jodhpur (3rd day)

· 6311 Jodhpur-Trivandrum  2355 hrs Jodhpur 0710
Trivandrum (4th day)

· 2052 Janshatabdi Exp  1030 hrs Madgaon
2255 Dadar (same day)

· 2051 Janshatabdi Exp  0530 hrs Dadar
1600 Madgaon (same day)

· 6336 Nagarcoil-Gandhidham 1330 hrs Nagarcoil
1600 Gandhidham(3rd day)

· 6335 Gandhidham-Nagarcoil 0520 hrs Gandhidham  1030
Nagarcoil (3rd day)

· 6334 Trivandrum-Hapa  1515 hrs Trivandrum
1605 Hapa (3rd day)

· 6333 Hapa-Trivandrum  0525 hrs Hapa
0710 Trivandrum (3rd day)

· 6338 Ernakulam-Hapa  1955 hrs Ernakulam
1605 Hapa (3rd day)

· 6337 Hapa-Ernakulam  0525 hrs Hapa
0150 Ernakulam (3rd day)

· 2617 Ernakulam-Niz Mangala 1040 hrs  Ernakulam 1515
Nizamuddin (3rd day)

· 2618 Niz-Ernakalum Mangala 0950 hrs  Nizamuddin   1330
Ernakulam (3rd day)

· 2431 Trivandrum-Nizamuddin 1915 hrs   Trivandrum 1850
Nizamuddin (3rd day)

· 2432 Nizamuddin-Trivandrum 1100 hrs   Nizamuddin   1110
Trivandrum (3rd day)

· 2620 Matsyagandha Exp  1100 hrs Mangalore 0635
LTT (2nd day)

· 2619 Matsyagandha Exp  1405 hrs LTT
1015 Mangalore (2nd day)

· 6346 Trivandrum-LTT Netravati 1000 hrs Trivandrum 2005
LTT (2nd day)

· 6345 LTT-Trivandrum Netravati 1140 hrs LTT
2355 Trivandrum (2nd day)

· 0111 Konkankanya  2300 hrs CSTM
1230 Madgaon (2nd day)

· 0112 Konkankanya   1630 hrs Madgaon
0550 CSTM (2nd day)

· 2449 Goa Sampark Kranti 1135 hrs Madgaon
2220 Nizamuddin (2nd day)

· 2450 Goa Sampark Kranti 0725 hrs Nizamuddin   1510
Madgaon (2nd day)

· 0103 Mandovi Exp 0700 hrs CSTM
2010 Madgaon (same day)

· 0104 Mandovi Exp 0830 hrs Madgaon
2145 CSTM (same day)

· 2653 Kerala Sampark Kranti 1800 hrs Kochuvelli
2220 Nizamuddin (2nd day)

· 2654 Kerala Sampark Kranti 0725 hrs Nizamuddin   0930
Kochuvelli (2nd day)

· 1098 Poorna Exp  2300 hrs Ernakulam
0500 Pune (3rd day)

· 1097 Poorna Exp  2310 hrs Pune
0600 Ernakulam (3rd day)

· KR2 Mangalore-Madgaon  0650 hrs Mangalore 1400
Madgaon (same day)

· KR1 Madgaon-Mangalore  1425 hrs Madgaon   2255
Mangalore (same ay)

· KR4 Ratnagiri-Dadar(T) 0530 hrs Ratnagiri
1415 Dadar (T) same day

· KR3 Dadar(T)-Ratnagiri 1535 h

[Goanet]Reasons why some Goanetters may prefer to remain silent

2005-05-01 Thread Tony Fernandes
Some Goanetters may remain silent because :
1.	They belong to the silent majority
2.	They believe silence is golden
3.	They have a right to remain silent
4.	They believe somebody’s got to listen
5.	They just want to sit back and watch the fun.
6.	They know there’s been enough said already
7.	They know there’s enough mud-slinging on the pitch
8.	They just want to be different.
9.	They know there’s enough going on anyway, so why bother.
10.	They know somebody has already made a point before them.
11.	They are afraid they might be pounced upon and hacked into smithereens 
by senior Goanetters.
12.	They are still looking around for a lawyer
13.	They are fed up of backstabbing, bitching, and nasty stuff that happens 
here and goes on for days on end.
14.	They are waiting for somebody to declare: “correspondence on this matter 
is now closed”
15.	They have found the answer but the topic was closed.
16.	They have been yelled at before
17.	They know that more arguments will pose obstacles to peace between two 
or more warring factions of Goanetters.
18.	There is no reply to the ignorant like keeping silent
19.	They expect some more to join the fray
20.They have found out that the topic in not new
21.They have had a bad experience in the past
22.	Silence is a fence around wisdom
23.	Silence is full of potential wisdom
24..	Silence is as deep as eternity; speech, shallow as time.
25.	Silence is one of the virtues of the wise.
26.	Silence is the most powerful scream.
27.	Silence is sometimes the answer




[Goanet]XIC, for careers in the media

2005-05-01 Thread Frederick Noronha (FN)
Xavier Institute of Communication at St Xavier's College in Mumbai is offering 
its professional diploma courses, which are open to graduates. These courses 
are in

* Journalism (English and Marathi)
* Public Relations
* Advertising & Marketing
* International Multimedia and Web Designing
* 3D computer graphics and animation
* Television and video production.
There's also an advanced diploma in advertising, marketing and communication. 
In addition, they run workshops (open to all) in announcing, broadcasting, 
compering, dubbing (English, Hindi and Marathi), Become an RJ, Creative 
Writing, Photography, Basics of Cartooning, Basic 3D modelling and animation, 
non-linear video editing, advanced 3D modelling and animation. etc.

TeleXIC is the distance learning online programme of the XIC. It offers courses 
in news reporting, effective presentation skills, media and law, effecting 
writing skills, public relations, short story writing and English language 
application.

Entrance exams for the diploma courses, according to XIC, will be held on June 
1 at 5 pm on June 8 at 5 pm and on June 18 at 5 pm. You can get more details 
from Xavier Institute of Communications, St Xavier's College, Maumbai. Tel 
(022) 2262 1366 or 1639. Email [EMAIL PROTECTED] and website at 
http://www.xaviercomm.org

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[Goanet]NEWS: Goa magicians form a forum for coordination

2005-05-01 Thread Frederick Noronha (FN)
http://news.webindia123.com/news/showdetails.asp?id=80251&n_date=20050430&cat=India
Goa magicians form a forum for coordination:-
Panaji | April 30, 2005 1:30:01 PM IST
Prominent magicians of Goa have formed a forum deliberate on their 
problems and find solutions to them.

The new forum would be used to discuss the quests of magicians, equipment, 
and tribute abilities.

"There are a handful of magicians in Goa. We never thought of meeting each 
other formally or indulging into the formation of any association. 
However, keeping common benefits in mind, we have gathered together to 
form a magician ring where we can share our common benefits. Many talented 
magicians can be found in India and a lot can be done towards it, provided 
proper directions are given and imparted to them," said Dandrake, a 
magician.

During their meeting, the magicians exhibited their magic to each other 
with a focus on generating more exciting presentations for the public at 
large.

"All professional magicians should confer with each other regarding their 
magical tricks which would help them to perform better," said Reggie 
Fernandes, another magician.

This forum will also provide instructions, tricks and tips to become a 
successful magician.

"It is true to say that India has given a lot of importance to magic. Many 
big professionals can be found in Bombay. Magic is a vast field than any 
other field of showbiz. So, I feel that all magicians should bind together 
and exchange their ideas to make it a really big profession," said Aurio 
Fernandes, another magician. (ANI)

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[Goanet]Cybermatrimonials -- Seeking that Mr and Ms Right (May 1, 2005)

2005-05-01 Thread Frederick Noronha (FN)

Goanet C Y B E R  - M  A T R I M O N I A L S ###
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LOOKING OUT FOR a life partner? Circulate your message to thousands of
largely-Goan readers. For a listing in this column send details to
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[MAY DAY 2005 * May 1, 2005 * Check out http://www.goanet.org ]
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LOOKING FOR A SUITABLE GOAN ROMAN CATHOLIC LADY: Our family is looking for a
Goan Roman Catholic spinster lady for our younger son. Born 1973 (32 years).
Stands 5'8'', slim built and fair complexion. He is the financial controller
(company accountant) of a fortune 500/multinational IT firm. He is also a
citizen of Australia, lives and works in Sydney and owns his own house.
Looking for the following specifics girl should be from Australia/ New
Zealand, alternatively a permanent resident from either country. Age below
27, slim built and pleasing personality. Family oriented and good natured. 
If interested please correspond to [EMAIL PROTECTED]

SEEKING THAT MR RIGHT;  Single lady, Goan, 43 yrs, goodlooking,
5"5', executive secretary, well travelled. Looking for decent,
well-settled gentleman 44-52 years, with good family background,
having pleasant personality from India or abroad. Email
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
GOAN CATHOLIC LADY, 34, MA, ONLY DAUGHTER: Goan Catholic lady,  34 yrs of
age 5ft 3" MA an English teacher by profession, only daughter,well
established homely looking for Catholic bachelors with sober habits, well
established from India/abroad. Please reply with details,recent photograph
and phone number to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
SMART, ATTRACTIVE, TALENTED RC Goan spinister, pleasant personality, 29
years, computer programmer, employed in Gulf, seeks suitable alliance from
well-educated RC Goan bachelors between 30-36 coming from a decent family.
Kindly reply back if genuinely interested with details about your family.
Email [EMAIL PROTECTED]
GOAN LADY, SOFTWARE PROFESSIONAL: RC Goan, software professional (33 yrs,
5'2"), invites matrimonial alliance from qualified, well-settled, God
fearing R.C. Goan bachelors, India/abroad, between 33-37 yrs with sober
habits and good family background. Please reply with details at
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+ Pais Matrimonial Bureau. 11 Rainbow, CST Road, Opp Univ Campus
Kalina, Mumbai 400098 Tel 2665 0184.
ATTRACTIVE, PETITE (5' 2"), 29, Catholic Goan female medical doctor,
practising in the UK is keen to meet a caring and sincere professional
Catholic Goan bachelor with a view to marriage. My interests include music,
travel, cinema/theatre, some sport, and home cooking. Ideally, the person
would be someone already working in the UK or in a position to re-locate.
Please contact Malcolm by email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
ALLIANCE FOR A LADY, PROFESSIONALLY QUALIFIED : Alliance invited for a Goan
R.C. spinster, 33 years, 5 feet 2 inches, professionally qualified from Goan
R.C. well educated and well settled bachelors upto 39 years working abroad.
Kindly reply with details to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
MATHS TEACHER, 26, INTELLIGENT AND HARDWORKING... WITH A HEART OF
GOLD: Looking out for a groom for a 26-year-old math's teacher
employed at a CBSE school in Mumbai. Intelligent, hardworking and
top-performer throughout.  Formerly school-head girl, and in school
hockey and RSP team. Played hockey upto state-level, and was also in
the NCC Air Wing. Tan complexion and althletic built. She has a very
straightforward personality but a heart of gold, and her students
love her. Seeking a well-settled, suitably-matched graduate Goan
above 5.8", 27-33 years. Email [EMAIL PROTECTED]
BACHELOR, WORKING FOR A REPUTED FIRM: Alliance invited for RC Goan bachelor,
graduate, working for a reputed firm, 33/5'8", from educated spinsters with
sober habits, aged 24-27. [EMAIL PROTECTED]
BUSINESSMAN, AND A BACHELOR: RC Goan bachelor, 32/5'11", businessman, seeks
alliance from RC Goan spinster, slim, good-looking upto 29 years. Contain
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
US GRADUATE, BASED IN THE US, WITH A FORTUNE 100 COMPANY: Family in USA of
Goan Catholic bachelor

[Goanet]Goan Voice U.K.

2005-05-01 Thread Gabe Menezes
http://jobsadvice.guardian.co.uk/rise/story/0,,1473361,00.html

What happened next?

Suella Fernandes worked as a barmaid in the summer while studying law
at Queen's College, Cambridge

Interview by Adeline Iziren
Saturday April 30, 2005
The Guardian

Suella Fernandes is now the Conservative candidate for Leicester East,
currently a Labour seat, with a majority of just over 13,000. But
Suella, a trainee barrister, is undaunted by this figure. "I'm
confident of defeating Labour's Keith Vaz and becoming an MP on May
5," she says.

The Tory candidate has been spending up to ten hours a day
campaigning. She describes her campaign as "creative". It has involved
door stepping, meeting community groups, visiting temples and
organising events where voters have a meal and a chance to quiz a
prominent Tory.

"I enjoy meeting the constituents and sharing my convictions," says
Suella. "I've been persuading them to vote Tory because we are
reflecting their concerns with a set of genuine policies that will
lead to a reduction in crime, cleaner hospitals and improved school
discipline."

She supported her mother, Brent councillor Uma Fernandes at the last
general election when she stood as a Tory candidate in Tottenham. "I
campaigned quite heavily for my mother and local people suggested I
stand for parliament, too," she says.

Meanwhile, Suella completed her degree at Cambridge, and then moved to
Paris where she studied law at the Sorbonne. When she returned to the
UK she began training as a barrister.

Suella was accepted on the Tory party's nationally approved candidates
list in 2003. Last September she was selected to stand in Leicester
East.

Other candidates standing in Leicester East on May 5 are: Colin Brown
(Veritas), Susan Cooper (Lib Dems), Valerie Smalley (Socialist Labour)
and Keith Vaz (Labour).

Comment: We have quite a few Goans standing for elections it seems;
Keith Vaz (Lab) Suella Fernandes (Con) her mother Uma Fernandes ( Con)
and Rabi Martins (Libdem). There could be more I am not aware of. I
shall be voting for Libdems on Thursday May 5th; most people say they
have not got a  chance - well I for one think they have and am
throwing my lot with them. They have promised to bring home our troops
from Iraq. Also I like their policies, I was dismayed though, that
Rabi Martins could not remember the name of his school! Many websites
ask the name of your school or your mother's maiden name among other
questions for security reasons.


Cheers,

Gabe Menezes.
London, England



[Goanet]DUST TO DUST!

2005-05-01 Thread luis rodrigues
Great article Mr. Domnic, brought tears in my eyes.
In todays world I am sure we hardly remembers " God
created us from dust and to dust we have to return"

Regards,

Luis Rodrigues
Bur Dubai, U.A.E


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[Goanet]Re: Reasons why some Goanetters may prefer to remain silent

2005-05-01 Thread Philip Thomas
Just wondering. Which of these applies when there is a vital problem for
which the collective wisdom of goanetters is sought? And which of them would
apply in responding  to the foregoing question?



[Goanet]RE. REASONS WHY SOME GOANETTERS PREFER TO REMAIN SILENT!!

2005-05-01 Thread luis rodrigues
Please add that some believes" Dog Vodlea Uloita
Zalear Tisro Modem Podunk Zaina" ( When two big people
speaks or discuss third person should not interfere)

Regards,

Luis Rodrigues
Bur Dubai, UAE


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[Goanet]Goanet stats * April 2005

2005-05-01 Thread Frederick Noronha Goanet Volunteer
Number of messages posted in the month: 1419
Average messages per day: 47.3
Most widely debated threads:
* Cafeteria Catholics (multiple posts)
* Correcting Goa's politics Cajetan Rego (9 posts)
* Re: Predicting who could be the next Pope George Pinto (6 posts)
* Some Reasons for Nature's Fury - Nandkumar Kamat Goa's Pride (5)
* Sat Sacrament ( Hanv Visorlom !!) JoeGoaUk (5 posts)
* Goenkar, Goeantle ani Goembhaile (Uday Bhembre's views) (4 posts)
* Close encounter with Pope John Paul II (Godfrey, 4 posts)
* Parrikar, others mourn Pope's death (Goa's Pride, 3 posts)
* When 'Fort Stikine' blew up in Bombay  (3 posts)
* St Patrick's, Karachi Alumni Aloysius D'Souza ( 3 posts)
* How you support Konkani Cause (Film/VCD culture etc) Stephen 2 posts
See http://www.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet/2005-April/thread.html#start
   [This listing is not comprehensive or complete and is likely to
   be affected by changes in the subject-line of issues debated.]
Some of those who posted to Goanet during this month: Goa's Pride 
 or ALMEIDAG(ji), AF, Santana Afonso (Kuwait/Cuncolim), 
International Maritime Agencies (Bombay), VIncent Andrade (Mangalore), 
Silviano Barbosa (Canada), Ferdinand Barros, Nagesh Bhatcar (US), Jude 
Botelho (UK), Miguel Braganza (Mapusa), The People's Club - Vasco Sports 
Club (Jason in Goa), Nasci Caldeira (Melbourne), Joaquim Cardozo, Carlos, 
Herman Carneiro (London), Bernado Colaco (Macau, UK, etc), Bevinda 
Collaco (Goa), Armande Condillac, Salus Correia, Fausto V. D'Costa 
(Mumbai), Demin D'Cruz (Kuwait), Bosco D'Mello (Toronto), Aloysius 
D'Souza (Mumbai), Avelino D'Souza (Kuwait), Vivian D'Souza (US and 
Socorro), Lawrence D'souza, Lawrie D'Souza (Baga/Kuwait), PD (Pat De 
Souza, US), Stephen Fernandes (Muscat/Divar), Venantius Pinto (664 West 
163 Street New York), Jessica DS, Duler Ex-Students, Joaquim D'Souza, 
GoaDesc (Mapusa), Fleur Dias (Goa), Shona Dryburgh, Joseph Falcao, A. 
Veronica Fernandes (Kuwait), Chris Fernandes, Cip Fernandes (London), 
Cynthia Fernandes, Dominic Fernandes Eddie Fernandes (London), Tony 
Fernandes (Parra/Canada), Winnie Fernandes, Percy Ferrao, Gabriel de 
Figueiredo (Australia), The Goan Forum, David Futers (UK), GOACAN 
(Mapusa), Vidyadhar Gadgil (Aldona, Goa), Jazz Goa (Mumbai and Goa), Elvin 
Godinho, Helga do Rosario Gomes (US), Michael Gonsalves (Pune), Rahul 
Goswami (Goa), Mario Goveia, Santosh Helecar (Houston, Texas), Forum for 
Senior Citizens of India (Margao, Goa), JoeGoaUk, George K Kurian 
(Farmagudi), Maria Guiomar Lima (Portugal), Gilbert Lawrence (US), Rebacca 
O'Leary (London), Jen Lewis (UK), Anthony Lobo, Joe Lobo, Mervyn Lobo 
(Canada), Oscar & Hazel Lobo (Melbourne), Con Menezes, Gabe Menezes (UK), 
Marlon Menezes (US), Melvyn Misquita (Porvorim), Xembuh Moidekar (  ), 
Ajay Moraes, FN (Saligao, Goa), Ancy Paladka (Mumbai), Jorge/Livia de 
Abreu Noronha (Lisbon), Cyril Pereira), Ethel Pereira (Rome), Sachin 
Phadte (US), Cecil Pinto (Miramar), Errol Pinto, George Pinto 
(California), Vasu Raekar (   ), Cajetan Rego, Sebastian Rodrigues (Siolim 
Goa), Arthur Rodrigues, Savio Rodrigues, EJS Eustaquio Santimano 
(Singapore), Allwyn Siqueira, Tony Soares (UK), Daniel F de Souza (Vasco), 
Teotonio R de Souza (Lisbon), Fr Ivo Da C Souza (Rachol), Ema Souza-Colaco 
(Bahamas), Ana Maria de Souza-Goswami (Betim), St Xavier's College 
(Mapusa), Alfred de Tavares (Hasselby, Stockholm), David Tatge, Prof 
Philip Thomas (Ribandar), Joe Vaz, Louis Vaz (Saligao, Goa), Sanny Vaz, 
Eddie Verdes (Chinchinim/Jedah/KSA), Fleming Viegas, Viviana (US), Rene 
Barreto (London), Jose Colaco (Bahamas), Dr Cornel Da Costa (London), Borg 
Costa, Angela da Cruz, Maurice D'Mello, Dom Martin (US), Lino Dourado, 
Domnic Fernandes (Anjuna/Dhahran, KSA), Gerard Fernandes (Morjim, Goa), 
Goa Suraj, Michael Iglesias, Shrihari Kugaji, Muriel and Mario (Saligao, 
Goa), Gilbert Menezes, MM DMello, Joao Pereira, Eric Pinto, Halur Rasho 
(),  Ralph Rau, Luis Rodrigues, Sara Bond (Olaulim, Goa), Steve Smith, 
Tomazinho Cardozo (Candolim, Goa), Armstrong Vaz (Cuncolim, Goa), and 
others whose names might have missed inclusion.

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[Goanet]My contribution to the noble profession

2005-05-01 Thread rene barreto

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I take this opportunity of CONGRATULATING
Tomazinho Cardozo on his retiremnet.

I am sure that his retirement from the Educational Field ,
will be a gain to the Konkani movement.( Rommi script )

rene barreto
www.goaday.com
=
>From the Navhind Times - Panjim - Goa.
==
by Tomazinho Cardozo


ON May 1, 2005, I shall retire after serving in the educational field of Goa
for 33 years and 10 months to be exact. In fact, these 33 years and 10
months, I consider, are the best years of my life - years of satisfaction
and fulfillment.


I always felt that teachers are the luckiest ones because they were engaged
in teaching for the first half of the day while the other half of the day,
they could use for other important activities, be they educational,
cultural, sporting, social, etc. In fact I did use the other half of the day
for numerous meaningful activities during the last almost 34 years.


I was appointed as a teacher in St Theresa's High School, Candolim in 1971.
During these 34 years, I was fully involved in the sports activities at the
village as well as at the state level. My village, Candolim, is culturally
very rich, which helped us to expose the talent of the youth of this area in
performing arts through cultural organisations namely Kala Mogi, Candolim
and Kandollechim Kironam.


People of Candolim reposed their faith in me. I was elected a member of the
Candolim village panchayat for the first time in 1973. Out of the 27 years
in public life, I served Candolim as its panchayat member for 4 years, as
its sarpanch for 18 years and as the speaker of Goa Legislative Assembly for
almost 5 years. I'm making a mention of these happenings because I came
across different experiences at different times and in different positions.
All this took place during those 34 years when I was a teacher, till 1986,
and headmaster, till date.


As I look back, I realise that along with my teaching profession I
contributed my mite in various other aspects which affect our society.
Consciously or unconsciously, I got involved in various matters of the
society around me while working as a teacher. This was because our society
respects teachers. This mindset of the people of my village gave me a
sustained push to go ahead, and I did it. The teaching profession proved
very beneficial to me. And now, as I am going to bid adieu to my profession,
I felt, I should jot down my experiences.


My love towards sporting and cultural activities flourished much before I
became a teacher. It was like any other individual who makes efforts to
bring out his hidden talents, whenever any opportunity arises, without
having any formal training. I too did the same. But, when I became a
teacher, I found that it was really easy to make use of my talents to
motivate the youth around me to participate in sporting and cultural
activities. It gave excellent results. In 1970s and 1980s Candolim village
became a hub of sports and cultural activities.


The teaching profession is always rewarding. When a teacher does his duty
well, the students love him, the parents adore him and his management
appreciates his work. There is no room for criticism. You feel elated. And
if you happen to be a headmaster or headmistress, when the students, parents
and the management realize that you are genuinely interested in the
well-being of the school and the students, they support you whole-heartedly,
irrespective of caste, creed and religion, in shaping the destiny of the
children. This is what I have experienced as a teacher and as a headmaster.


However, it is exactly the opposite when you are in public life. There are
people for and against you. As such, your supporters back you even if you
are wrong and your opponents criticise you even if you are right. Hence your
work in public life is thankless. I have experienced this in a lesser amount
as a sarpanch of Candolim, but it was unbearable and disgusting when I
became the MLA and the speaker. After doing 10 jobs for an individual, if
you cannot do his 11th job, then you are good for nothing. Whether legal or
illegal, the work of your supporter must be done. Anti-social elements must
be taken care of in order to survive in politics. Whether you are one of
them or not, you are dubbed as a corrupt and power-hungry person.


Under these circumstances, can an individual function as a teacher and as a
politician at the same time? Practically impossible. A teacher cannot
protect anti-social elements, he cannot indulge in illegal activities, he
cannot afford to give or accept bribes, he cannot be corrupt etc, because he
will set a very bad example for the students. On the other hand a politician
cannot survive without indulging in those activities. And hence, many a
time, a teacher turned politician has left teaching, while there are few
cases where a teacher turned politician has left politics itself.


When I joined p

[Goanet]GOA - Edmonton news letter

2005-05-01 Thread rene barreto



=

Goenkars wherever you may be ,
Goenkars you will always be !

=


It is with great pride - that I share with you ...the Edmonton
Goan Association ... April  news letter  and their social calendar
which is therein.

I do hope that other Goans Organistions around the world -
will also share their newsletters with us.

I have seen a remarkable improvement in the many Goan
Organisations -e-news letters I recieve.

I believe that this is a good opportunity to  consider and
vote for  the * best *  e_Goan news letter - later in the year.

An award ceremony in
*  GOAN CYBER SPACE * will just be great !

I am sure we will get the support from the Goanet admin !
and  other Goan organistions around the world.

TOGETHER FOR GOA and GOANS everywhere.



rene barreto
MAKING it HAPPEN


000



The Edmonton Goan Association is a non-profit organization with simple yet
profound objectives. Founded in 1975, the heart of the Association remains
tightly fastened to its primary intentions envisioned and put into motion so
many years ago: celebrate our culture, customs, and traditions, impart
pertinent values on to our children, and foster and promote social and
cultural links with the diverse ethnicity comprised within our strikingly
picturesque "City of Champions"! Having entered into the 21st century, the
Association continues to fulfill its responsibilities over the past 30 years
by providing gracious and forthcoming social and recreational activities for
its members while continually exhibiting a positive influence within the
community.

NEWSLETTER
===
http://edmontongoanassociation.com/



The Edmonton Goan Association
The committee 2005 - 2006

President: Francis Misquita
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Vice-President:
Geraldo Barreto-Xavier
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Treasurer: Lawrence Gomes
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
General Secretary: Shirley D'Souza
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Publicity Secretary: Ferrol Lobo
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Social Secretary: Corrine D'Souza
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sports Secretary:
Francis Barreto-Xavier
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Youth Coordinator:
Christina Misquitta
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Board Members:
Anthony D'Souza
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Nadine Moniz
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

The Alliance of
WORLD GOAN ORGANISATIONS
===
rene barreto
www.goaday.com
20th of August 2005





[Goanet]Divorce among Goans

2005-05-01 Thread gilbertlaw
Hi Bosco
Perhaps you did not mean what you wrote.  But below your post and your 
question, I have posted YOUR statement.  Hope that will answer your query.

Bosco D'Mello:
You have cleverly mangled my post and made "ghodshem" of it, just as you accuse 
others of doing the same to your posts. 
Please point out the following in my post:
Where did I BLAME the church for annulling marriages?

Your prior post:

+++ I concede it could be unfortunate for "the kids" but tell us what 
is "wrong" with being divorced. And don't preach from a moral pulpit!! This is 
the 21st century!! Be practical !! The Catholic Church itself has annulled 
thousands of
marriages.

Bosco:
Please read your own writing..Can I assume, from what you wrote, that you
deduced that I blamed the church for annulling marriages?? If so, FYI, I did
not..Please read once again what I wrote:

Gilbert:
The above speaks for itself, unless I am misinterpreting your English. In that 
case my apologies.

Bosco:
Please tell us "What do you think of people who are divorced and whose 
marriages are annulled (or not) by the church?" Do you consider them to be 
beneath you because you have managed to stay in your marriage? Are such people 
less favorable in the eyes of God than those who have been blessed with not 
having to go through the pain of separation? Are they immoral because their 
marriages have failed due to circumstances that only they can comprehend?

Gilbert:
First Bosco, please take a deep breath, brother!

When I meet a divorced individual, and I meet a lot of them, I feel very sorry 
for them, disappointed and disillusioned. On behalf of the kids, I feel very 
angry at the situation.  These divorcess are my friends, co-wrokers and 
colleagues

Perhaps it may be difficult for you and others to understand and accept how we 
can have these mixed, and some may say contradictory, feelings.  But 
professionally we do this all the time. 

A patient with lung cancer who has smoked 2 packs per day for 15 years and now 
at age 45 has a lung cancer.  I treat him / her with kindness and respect.  But 
that does not prevent me from being VERY disappointed with this guy or gal or 
the problem of smoking.   

Other doctors and nurses do the same when they deal with patients with 
preventable illness (Aids, alcoholic cirrhosis) and unnecessarily complicated 
diseases (of diabetes, hypertension etc.) 

As we treat lung cancer, we are also active with prevention and smoking 
cessation.  But with divorces in the Goan community we are doing neither.

As in lung cancer, the time to save one's marriage is long before it gets to 
the (breaking) point. And this can happen at any time.  A lot of Goans and 
others think after fifteen years of marriage and with kids, the marriage is 
safe.  Wrong!!! 

This month, I met a GOAN LADY living in the west,  in her mid-fifties very 
educated.  With tears she told me, "After five kids (last one preteen) and 25 
years of married life we just went through a divorce." That is why Bosco and 
others, Goans have to talk about our culture and our moral values.  And as a 
cafeteria Goan (or Catholic) not when it is too late to make the right choices.

The right choices (on cultural and moral values) should be done long before we 
badly need them to play their active roles. That is what WGD and social 
get-togethers should be talking instead of just scotch, feni, music and dancing.

Instead of talking about women-priests, the Goan priests and alleged 
pedophilia, etc. etc. we (married Goans) should talk and do something about the 
silent but significant and increasing problem of divorces in Diaspora Goan 
society and how to prevent them.  And when it does occur, how can Diaspora Goan 
society help them and especially the children. This is what is being 
conveniently swept under the rug. Or should I say we keep looking the other 
way.  Or should I say we do not want to talk about our own dirty laundry.

Remember as in lung cancer, PREVENTION is better than treatment or crying at 
the wake.
 
The above is my sermaum for today. I know you and others may not like or make 
sense of it today.. but perhaps tomorrow. If you respond to this post, please 
tell me if you have been closely affected by divorce. Is this a personal agenda 
that you are quibbling about?   Just asking to get my bearings.  I hope someone 
more knowledgeable and experienced on this subject can continue and moderate 
this thread.
Regards, GL




[Goanet]CORRUPTION IN GOA:Mamlatdar caught accepting bribe

2005-05-01 Thread GOACAN
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Documented by Goa Desc Resource Centre Ph:2252660
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Ponda mamlatdar caught red-handed while accepting bribe
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The anti-corruption cell of the vigilance department today
caught red-handed the Ponda mamlatdar, Mr Prashant Anand Mandrekar
while accepting a bribe of Rs 10,000 from a prawn farm owner.The
superintendent of police of the vigilance department, Mr Bosco George
informed the reporters late today evening that Mr Thomas Menezes,
the managing director of Oceanic Aqua-Culture Private Ltd, Madkai,
lodged a complaint with the vigilance department today morning alleging
that Mr Mandrekar had been demanding money to settle a case
related to ownership of a farm owned by him (Mr Menezes).
Acting upon Mr Menezes's complaint, sleuths of the anti-graft cell of the
department laid a trap and caught Mr Mandrekar red-handed while
accepting Rs 10,000.
Giving details about the Ponda mamlatdar's entrapment, Mr George
informed that the prawn farm owner hailed from Madkai. A neighbour
of Mr Menezes found fault with the legality of the farm. The neighbour
complained to the Ponda mamlatdar and alleged that the farm was illegal.
In the meantime, the legality matter of the farm reached court of law.
During the course of court proceedings, an inquiry was instituted by the
mamlatdar. All the required documents were placed before the court,
and it was realised that the mamlatdar did not have the right to conduct
an inquiry into the matter. In spite of this he kept the matter pending.
During this period, the farm owner made a profit of Rs 12 lakh. Seeing
this, the mamlatdar demanded Rs 1 lakh from Mr Menezes to "settle the
case".
Mr Menezes told the Ponda mamlatdar that he did not have Rs 1 lakh
to give him as bribe. So, Mr Mandrekar climbed down to Rs 50,000,
then to Rs 30,000 and finally settled for Rs 20,000.
Yesterday, the farm owner and the Ponda mamlatdar settled the "deal"
- Mr Menezes would pay Mr Mandrekar Rs 10,000 as part of the first
installment and the remaining amount would be paid in the next installment.
However, the shrewd farm owner wisely recorded the whole conversation
that took place between him and the Ponda mamlatdar.
Mr Menezes telephoned the vigilance department and informed it
about the case and submitted a cassette of the conversation.
Today morning, the mamlatdar accepted the money and put it into
his shirt pocket. In a jiff, vigilance department sleuths caught him
red-handed. They found Rs 7,000 on his person and from a drawer
of his desk.
The SP revealed that Mr Mandrekar almost fainted on being caught
red-handed.
Mr George informed that everything was video-taped and along with two
government servants, who stood as panchas, a panchanama conducted.
The entrapment was conducted under the supervision of Mr George;
the deputy superintendent of police, Mr Omprakash Kurtarkar;
police inspector, Mr Gundu Naik and others.
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[Goanet]Just to brighten your week ahead!!

2005-05-01 Thread luis rodrigues
Hi Everybody!!

"When God leads you to the Edge of the Cliff,Trust Him
fully and Let Go, Only One of Two Things will
happen,Either He'll Catch You When You Fall, Or He'll
teach You How to Fly!"

Good Day and have a Nice Week  ahead ! 

Regards,


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[Goanet]RE: Goanet stats * April 2005

2005-05-01 Thread Philip Thomas
A comparison of the message stats for previous months shows that there has
been a big jump to the 1400 mark for two months (from about 1000 in Jan &
Feb). [August 2004 marks the peak however at over 1500 probably due to the
alleged church child abuse issue]. So what is the "problem" at goanet?

Perhaps it is the number of "silent members". The April stats provided by
Fred Noronha account for posts by at least 132 individuals/groups (if my
count is correct). They have contributed on average over 10 posts each in
the month, one every three days.  But they represent only about 2% of goanet
membership if my information/math is right. What might be of interest are
the numbers of "new" (to goanet) posters and how these seem to be changing
from month to month. Let's hope there has been a steady increase!





[Goanet]Aitaracheo Kaskutleo: From Goa With Love (Part II)

2005-05-01 Thread lino dourado
Adlean Challu.

  From Goa With Love (Part II)

Donparchem ek zait ailelem. Thoddeach vellan
iskolachim bhurgim ghora pavchim aslim. Pamella-k
mellunk vechem vo na vechem hea vixim Bobby-chem mon
guspollolem astana konnem tori darachi gantti vazovli.
Bhurgim tor ghora pavunk vis minttam aslim. Oslea
vellar konn aila to pollounk dar ugoddlem zalear
ghorkarachi ixttin, darar ubi asli. Tichea tonddak
polleat kitloch vell Bobby, khuntt koxem urlem.

PAMELLA: Posso eu entrar ?

BOBBY: Sorry, what did you say?

PAMELLA: I said, can I come in?

BOBBY: Oh yes..yes.. Welcome to our love nest.

PAMELLA:  Obrigado. Preserve muito agradável da casa e
do poço 

BOBBY: Sorry, I don’t understand much Portuguese


PAMELLA: Ekdom borim ghor ani boro cuidado kela. Maca
cocani subej coulina ani inglês todi eta

BOBBY: Tum uloita tacheruch somzolim hanv. Bosun ge.
Thondd pievnk kitem haddum?  

PAMELLA: Uma cerveja. Bir sollta

Bobby, beer haddunk bhitor veta. Pamella sofar bosun
salantle showcase-int aslelea Bobby-Ronnychea
fottvacher ek dhanvti nodor ghallta. Tichea dolleamnim
dukham ubzovtat. Zat-katicho osur (devchar)
avoi-bapaichea mostokarn bhorunk naslolo zalear
Ronny-chea sangata aplo fottu asta aslo, hem chintana;
thoim beer ghevn Bobby pavta.

BOBBY: Amchea kazaracho fottu

PAMELLA: Tu ub sudore astalem (vach: Tum khup sundor
aslem)

BOBBY: Thanks. 

PAMELLA: Aum lan cheddi asli, haga ietali…

BOBBY: Excuse me! Tuvem kitem mhonnlem?

PAMELLA: When I was a young girl, I used to visit meu
primo. Atam  tim soglim Espania asai. Aum poilim
Ronny-c anga ollcunc na. To collegint mello.

BOBBY: Ronny mello nhoi. Ronny colejint
mell’llo. Cheddvak cheddi mhonno nant, cheddum
mhunn ollkotat. Oh dear your Konkani is very terrible 

PAMELLA: Ultimo dezesseis anos eu sou nosso do Goa.
Sola voros bair urlim, cocani visorlim. Actually, aum
soglem visor cori pun…

BOBBY: Avchit amchi pollton Mapxeam bazarant gavli.
  
PAMELLA: Oh forget that senhora D’Sa. Atun mojo
mama-papa a big culprit asai 

BOBBY: Upkar korun avoi-bapaik toxem ulovchem nhoi. Do
not castigate….

PAMELLA: Why not? Quem é responsável para este? Meus
pais? Ou esse quem influenciou os castes do caralho?
(Who is responsible for this? My parents? Or the one
who influenced the f* castes?) babon, undir (vach:
suddir) xaadi (chadd’di)?  

BOBBY: Please calm down.  Caste discrimination has
been against the law since 1950, but prejudice
continues.  Hanv somzotam tujem dukh. 

PAMELLA: Tech catir aum anga ielim. Aum Ronny taim
uloilim ani tea uprantuch Panjim, Portuguese-Consulate
gelim. Aum az  vochna. I am not traveling today.
Extend my holidays for another two months. 

BOBBY: Borem kelem. Tujea sandlelea soireank mellun
tuji humxik bhagouk zata

PAMELLA: Soirim? Which soirim are you talking about?
Those people believes and practicing in social class.
Ou jo lok mojea govaxi property caunc sodtolo? Avem
sogli girescai Ashramanche nanvar kelea. Il’lixi
suvat tumchea putachea nanvar kelea. Mhojo gift. Mojo
ugdas koxo. Mama-papa-n by force proposal kelo tedna
focot tujo gov mojem duc somilo. Your husband a real
gentleman. I wanted to end my life, but Ronny came and
told me that life must go on. Because of him I am
still alive.

BOBBY: Khorem sangtolo zalear khup pavtti to mhaka
sango. Aplem eka mon’xeacho jiv salvar kela
mhonn. Ponn to monis tum mhonn aiz mhaka kolit zalem.

PAMELLA: I need your help

BOBBY: Mhojea lagim ghoddtta zalear.

PAMELLA: Mojea monant itlem asa aum nocom coxi survat
corchi ti.

BOBBY: Mon ugttem kor ani sang.

PAMELLA: Tu zanai IVF-ET montlele kitem tem?

BOBBY: Jem nokom astam tem xikunk gheunk hanv tozviz
kortam. Vicharunk lozo na.
 
PAMELLA: IVF-ET means In Vitro Fertilization
Pre-Embryo Transfer is a fertility procedure. Panjim
Dr. Poi ( a gynecologist) aka melli aum. Help corta

BOBBY: Dadlo-ostorecho kuddiche sombond zai nastana
dadleacho 'sperm' kaddun ostorechea vagina bazulean
pisvin (uterus) aslelea tantiam (oocytes) bore toren
mellop korun bhurgem zaunk xokona tea ostoreank
bhurgem rochpachem adunik (modern) 'technique'
Evropache Dr. Steptoe (an embryologist) ani Dr.
Edwards (a gynecologist) hannim sodhun kaddlea tanchi
ghozall sangta tum?

PAMELLA: Exatamente. (exactly) 

BOBBY: Ponn hi sogli karvahi tuka kiteak?

PAMELLA: Eu quero ser uma mãe de uma criança. Maka
maim zaunk zai burgeachi

BOBBY: Kitem? Ani konn fuddem sorla tuka adar korunk?

PAMELLA: Aum inga ailim tuji permissão geunc 

BOBBY: Mhojem permission ani koslem?

PAMELLA: Gelea sola voros aum soglem visorlim, ani
maca disolem mojo Goeam connuch na. Pun Ronny mello
sorry mevlo ani disla maca conn tori asai. Ani tim
asai tumi. Avem tuje burgem maglo. Tuca lagon Ronny
cobul na zalo. Mojean tuca ducounk zaina ani Ronnychem
mucamoll moje dolleam coddxem pois dovorunc atam
godona. Aum Goem porot anik ienam. Portugalac portun
vetana Ronnychi mogachi nixeanim geun vetam. Hea catir
avem Ronny-c request kelem pun tanem tujem permission
ge muntlam. No matter what your 

Re: [Goanet]Just to brighten your week ahead!!

2005-05-01 Thread Gabe Menezes
On 01/05/05, luis rodrigues <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi Everybody!!
> 
> "When God leads you to the Edge of the Cliff,Trust Him
> fully and Let Go, Only One of Two Things will
> happen,Either He'll Catch You When You Fall, Or He'll
> teach You How to Fly!"
> 
> Good Day and have a Nice Week  ahead !
> 
> Regards,
> 
> 
> Luis Rodrigues

RESONSE: In other words go take a Jump?

Cheers,
Gabe Menezes.
London England.



Re: [Goanet] Shrinking Himalayan snow threatens fish off Goan coast

2005-05-01 Thread Santosh Helekar
Melvyn Mesquita wrote:
>
>Shrinking Himalayan snow threatens fish off Goan
>coast
>
> A HERALD REPORT
> BY MELVYN MISQUITA
>

My reading of the original Science paper led me to the
wrong conclusion, namely that the increase in
phytoplankton biomass would mean more fish. Indeed,
the title of the paper is quite misleading to a
non-expert like me. The title is: "Warming of the
Eurasian Landmass Is Making the Arabian Sea More
Productive". The paper also does not explain what
exactly is meant when the authors state that their
findings have "immediate and important bearing on
regional fisheries". This is how they end their paper:

"Our findings raise the intriguing possibility that
the western as well as the central regions of the
Arabian Sea could witness more widespread blooms of
phytoplankton if the mid-latitudinal continental
warming trend and the decline in winter snow cover
over the Northern Hemisphere continue. Although our
findings have an immediate and important bearing on
regional fisheries, the implications of a more
productive Arabian Sea go far beyond that; for
example, to our
planet's climate. The Arabian Sea hosts a distinct,
basin-wide oxygen minimum zone between 150 and 1000 m
(35–37), whose presence has a substantial impact on
marine elemental cycles, in particular those
linked to the production of climatically relevant
trace gases (37). The changing productivity of the
Arabian Sea could thus have far-reaching consequences
for the oxygen minimum zone, whose existence is
regulated by a balance between the ventilation of
intermediate
depths and oxygen consumption during the oxidation of
organic matter produced in the euphotic column (36,
37)."

I hope Helga clarifies this issue.

Cheers,

Santosh




[Goanet](no subject)

2005-05-01 Thread The Goan Forum
Goa Going Slumbai

Goa should learn some lessons from what is happening
to Mumbai. The metropolis which is increasingly being
referred to Slumbai. The commercial capital of the
country which has the dubious distinction of having
the largest slum in Asia if not the world.

A stinking cesspool called Dharavi. Over 60 percent if
not more of the population of Mumbai now live in
slums. And slum colonies keep springing up not by the
year or the month but by the day and by the hour. When
slums get established it is impossible to remove them.


What has happened to Mumbai could well happen to Goa.
Goa has seen waves of immigrants. Partly because Goans
are averse to manual labour of any type. All the
carpenters and plumbers and masons in Goa are from
outside the State. All the construction labour are
from Karnataka an Maharashtra. All the employees in 
the steel rolling mills are from Bihar and Uttar
Pradesh. All the security guards are from Orissa. We
do not know whether the fact that the Governor is from
Nagaland has anything to do with it. But there is an
increasing number of young people from the North East
in the hospitality industry. For the poverty stricken
chronically drought affected states like Bihar and
Orisssa, Goa is Dubai.

 One can see the presence and impact of continuous
waves of immigration all over Goa. Particularly in
villages in and around industrial estates. Just to
give one instance villages like Nagoa in Verna has
been virtually been taken over by immigrant labour.
Then of course there is the notorious Fukat Nagar in
Vasco so called because every structure is illegal.
Closer to the capital city there is Goa’s own Dharavi,
Chimbel. 

Slum colonies and illegal structures flourish in Goa
as anywhere else because of the patronage extended by
politicians. Once a slum colony comes up it is next to
impossible to eradicate it. This has been proved time
and time again. Whenever there is any attempt to clear
a slum colony there is a stiff opposition from
politicians. 

And Goa will hurtle relentlessly towards becoming a
Slumbai. 

courtesy Goan Observer
http://www.goanobserver.com/members/ (subscription
article)

===

DARK DEEDS EXPOSED by RAJAN NARAYAN:

ALL THE SKELETONS that Manohar Parrikar tried his best
to hide and suppress while he was in power are coming
tumbling out of his cupboard. The latest and the most
shocking instance of the criminal irresponsibility
with which the Parrikar regime went about awarding
contracts to dubious parties is the exclusive contract
entered into  for sale of surplus power. 

Just a few months before the collapse of the Parrikar
government and the termination of the Power trading
agreement with Harry Dhaul, the state just escaped
being taken for a further roller coaster ride by Harry
Dhaul. 

Thanks to Goan Observer’s (Jan. 10-16, 2004) exposure
of the scam, the project was abandoned and the
inauguration of the same by the President, Abdul
Kalam, was cancelled at the last moment. Harry Dhaul
was allegedly very close to BJP leaders both at the
centre and in the state and is reported to have
contributed to the election war chest of the party

Corporation. Harry Dhaul failed to deposit the
proceeds of the sale of surplus power belonging to the
government of   Goa into the treasury of the State
government. At the time of writing, in what senior
government officials insist on casually referring to
as a commercial dispute, Harry Dhaul owes the Goa
government over Rs 100 crores.

courtesy Goan Observer
http://www.goanobserver.com/members/ (subscription
article)

===

Joke of the Month of April (courtesy GoaNet Reader
April 30, 2005)

Press in Goa

By Rajesh Singh

The press in Goa has undergone many dramatic changes
over the decades since Liberation. From being a
propaganda machine of the colonialist Portuguese
regime, it is today a powerful medium to convey the
views and aspirations of the people of the state. 

The press has BECOME a WATCHDOG of society, and to a
significant extent it has been keeping a watch on the
performance of our public figures, not hesitating to
pull them up for their lapses.

Recommended Goan Sites in Cyberspace 

Goa-World at http://www.goa-world.com * TGF at http://www.colaco.net

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RE: [Goanet]The ideas behind Free and Open Source movements - 2

2005-05-01 Thread Nasci Caldeira
Hi goanetters,
I tried to do some 'internet banking' when at my daughter's place using 
"Mozilla Firefox" and  I had problems; No such problems with the very good 
and tried "M I Explorer". These new and free and open source stuff may be 
good but what's wrong with going with the good and tried ones?

Besides that, I must say that all this new 'stuff is free', because these 
producers have to break into the market; I wonder if these would have been 
free, if these were 'first' in the market. M I Explorer is and has been free 
from the start, anyway. So why this bias towards Mozilla and or Opera? I did 
not find any special juice. Let the competition decide, in the long term. In 
the short term, the customer will use the stuff that's most useful and free 
or cheap.

Its like when Banks first started 'Credit Cards' there were no 'Fees'. When 
they got us hooked up to using the credit cards, they started charging fees! 
Nothing in this world is free absolutely! Some one somewhere is paying for 
it. Goanet is free for us to use and abuse, but I'm sure someone or some 
source of revenue is behind the costs. There are sponsors and or advertisers 
supporting the 'open source' endeavours. This is a good thing! Let the 
Competition prevail!

I have tried 'weblog' not moblogs. The weblogs are free for only the first 
few days; after that one has to shell out or miss out. Is is the same with 
'Moblogs'??

Nasci Caldeira
Melbourne.
From: "rene barreto" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [Goanet]The ideas behind Free and Open Source movements - 2
Date: Sat, 30 Apr 2005 07:53:31 +0100
888
>   The ideas behind Free and Open Source movements are being used far
  beyond the field of software technology.
> These initiatives and attempts touch upon a set of more
  fundamental values and questions governing our life, and the
  future of the society we live in, as well as possibilities for
  developing countries.
I believe that Mozilla Firefox is one of the best and
the most popular  web browser available today.
check it at www.mozilla.org
I use it and I found it just great ! If you do change to
Mozilla -or are using Mozilla ..please do make some
TIME to share your thoughts with us -
Opera comes no 2  and  is at www.opera.com
Try the moblog :>
Moblogs ( mobile weblogs) are the missing link between
blogging and moblile phones. Moblogs liberate you from
your computer by letteing you post text , photos and
multimedia clips from wherever you are  !
for more deatils go to Moblog UK ( www.moblog.co.uk )

Do let us have your feed back if you try Moblog UK
rene barreto
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[Goanet]HHAAPPYY BBIIRRTTHHDDAAYY TTOO CECIL PINTO

2005-05-01 Thread JoeGoaUk

May you live 101 years






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[Goanet]Red letter day for SHREE MAHALSA DEVALAYA - Verna (Old Mardol) Salcete Goa

2005-05-01 Thread godfrey gonsalves
This morning 2nd May 2005 on a hot air sunny
atmosphere amidst the slogans of "Jai Shree Ram" and "
Bharat Mata ki jai" by a small section of the over
3000 strong audience and  a thunderous applause, His
Holiness, Jagadguru Sri Bharathi Theertha Mahaswamigal
of Sringeri Sharada Peetham dedicated the Shree Mhalsa
Narayani Devalaya at Verna Salcete South Goa District
Goa India  to the people of Goa, today at 1108 hrs IST
at the Old Mardol Temple site (behind the Verna Police
Station).

The present President of the "Shree Mahalsa Narayani
Devalaya Punarudhar (Restoration) Samiti " Mr R G
Desai of Ponda ex LIC employee, narrated at the outset
the brief history of the temple. In the year 1560 the
erstwhile Portuguese (who ruled the Velhas Conquistas
Old Conquests from 1510- 1961)in the spirit of
prosyletisation (the religion of the King (of
Portugal) to be that of his subjects) destroyed the
temple and many others as well and the deity was
shifted to its present site in Mardol,in present day
Ponda Taluka (then not a part of Goa as the Portuguese
ruled the Novas Conquistas New Conquests  only from
1763 to 1961 and not 1510 to 1961 as is commonly
believed). 

It was the first Chief Minister of Goa late Dayanand B
Bandodkar a devotee of the Goddess Mahalsa (now at
Mardol as well seated on a lion and believed to be the
reason why the MGP got its LION symbol) who desired to
take up the restoration of the destroyed temple and
installed a "ghumti" and set up the "pooja stan" at
the destroyed temple site. But it was in 1975 during
the tenure of his daughter Ms Sashikala Kakodkar who
at the instance of Harsischandra Verencar, Mr Arsekar
and others performed the "shilanyas" under the
tutelage of the then His Holiness, Jagadguru,of
Sringeri Sharada Peetham. (It is a sheer coincidence
that the present Jagadguru who was also present on
that ocassion in 1975 as a mere disciple then, today
after nearly 30 years had the honour of dedicating the
temple  on the auspices ocassion ).

The Shree Mahalsa and the Sringeri Sharada Peetahm
will work together and a silver plate was handed over
to the Purohit of the Mahalsa temple as token of
unity. Awards were also presented to all those that
made the restoration work a success. 

The Goa RSS Pramukh Prof Velingkar in his vitriolic
speech in Konkani narrated the Portuguese excess from
destruction of temples, conversions, Inquisition, made
a mention of Diego Fernandes a Portuguese for his
excesses against the Hindu community. He pointed out
how bread was thrown in wells and how those sitting on
the same bench with a Christian were converted to
Christianity in the 16th century.

Reading out a message believed to have been received
from the RSS chief from Headquarters in Nagpur Mr K
Sudarshan-- it said that "while it is a fact that
Muhammed Ghazani destroyed the Somnath Temple in
Gujarat and the same was restored similarly in Goa too
the destruction of the Mahalsa Temple by the cruel
Portuguese and its restoration is an honour for every
hindu and a national pride" (Incidentally a similar
advertisement was seen on the English daily The
Navhind Times announcing the three day auspices
ocassion 29th April to 1st  May 2005  lending credence
to the belief that the local RSS unit had apparently
"ghost written" the message for the RSS Chief in
Nagpur) given the fact that the Goan populous
especially in the Old Conquests have a history of
religious tolerance.

Earlier the mahajans with ex Union Minister of Finance
and present Panaji Parliamentary Constituency Member
of Parliament Mr Sripad Naik and purohits installed a
cornice atop the three pinnacles climibing on make
shift scaffolds much to the amusement of the crowd and
recieved a thunderous applause.  There was a huge
winding crowd for being obeisance darshan. 

Incidentally since 1975 there is a strong movement
being carried out within the Hindu community by the
non Brahmins (Bahujan Samaj) who are demanding their
entry into the interiors of the temple where
traditionally only the Brahmins are permitted. Two
books "Devle Khuli Kara" (Open the doors of the
Temple) written in Marathi and Konkani by Naik Shivdas
a teacher and social reformer hailing from Ponda has
put the Hindu fundamentalists like the RSS VHP Bajrang
Dal BJP on the defensive making their "allergy to
conversions by Catholics" and hatred towards Moslems a
damp squib.  The over 1500 Mahajans in Goa are mostly
of the Brahmin class and despite slogans like "Garv se
kaho hum hindu hai" the underlying age old caste
hatred and isolation of the non Brahmins from the
temple activity is now turning to be a dormant volcano
about to unleash its fury.

Hence at the Mahalsa temple --- announcements were
made that the interiors of the temple are open to all
irrespective of caste creed or communities 

The presence of Sashikala Kakodkar   and Sripad Naik
(both Bahujan Samaj )made to do the honours on the
dais and off the dais is a pointer to this direction.
 
Nearby the newly reconstructed templ

[Goanet]....Women Priests, Men Priests, Nuns etc

2005-05-01 Thread JoeGoaUk

Even if it does happen..

Men Prist will always enjoy superiority.

In the eyes of God (& law), all people are EQUAL. But in the eyes of society, 
MEN
traditionally are MORE EQUAL than women.

lets take a typical example:

Priests while not in church, are seen in their best civil clothes, some of them 
even
with Amitab bachan Hair Style etc. They can make fun of girls and women etc but 
this
has slowely become acceptable  by the society (and the Bishop or Pope).

On the other hand, our Nuns (Sisters) whether they are in church, Tiatr, 
beaches,
Public places etc they never give up their uniform/ lob.

If our Nuns start wearing civil clothes like skirts, maxies etc, will the same
society accept this?? 

Why different treatment for Nuns, dont they feel hot during the summer?

Is it because men are more equal than women??

I remember, few years ago we were travelling with one Brother (now priest) who 
is to
wear his best and always make fun of girls, once at margao Bus Stand, a Girl 
called
him 'Bai-Zuan' he just laugh  but we felt ashamed. Have also read similar cases 
in
Goan dailies.

Once my friend from Velsao pointed me his Church Pad Kur who was popularly 
known as
Amitab Bachan for his hair Style and dressing like hero.

Wearing of cassock/lob is slowly dying.  Thanks to our Tiatrists and Bollywood 
who
keep the memory alive. e.g. Amitab bachan in Amar Akbar Anthony and  now on 
Indian
TV the same Amitab is seen wearing the cassock in Detergent 
Commercial/Adverstisemt.








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Re: [Goanet] Steel plant to pollute the Western ghats - ecological disaster

2005-05-01 Thread Bernado Colaco
Tuem tenka salvar korchem punn! 

B. Colaco

> > 
> 
> Koknne raj kottele, mele, innit?
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Santosh
> 
> 

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[Goanet]India blank Uzbekistan

2005-05-01 Thread Eustaquio Santimano
India blank Uzbekistan
Last Updated: May 01, 2005 17:28 IST
India maintained their iron grip over Uzbekistan to wrap up the reverse  
singles and complete a 5-0 whitewash in the Asia-Oceania Group 1 second  
round tie of the Davis Cup team tennis competition at the Jai Club courts  
in Jaipur on Sunday.

After Prakash Amritraj overcame some early resistance from Farrukh Dustov  
and the energy sapping heat for a 6-7, (4/7) 6-4, 6-2 victory, Harsh  
Mankad cleaned up Murad Inoyatov 7-5, 6-1 to complete the formalities for  
the hosts.

The Indians had already pocketed the tie after the winning the opening two  
singles on Friday and the doubles rubber on Saturday. They will now play  
one of the eight World Group first round losers in the play-offs in  
September this year.

There are good prospects that the draw could give India another home tie  
as they have played five of the eight teams away last time. One other  
country, Spain whom they have not played before, would be decided by toss  
while two other -- Chile and Sweden -- would be away matches.

Captain Leander Paes said India now had the nucleus that could take it to  
the World Group team in the coming years.

Dustov, like on the opening day, came up with a strong game and tried to  
make a contest of it, although the matches were of academic interest. The  
19-year-old Uzbek, however, lost steam midway through and let Amritraj off  
the hook after taking the first set.

But, if it was his fragile mind that cracked under pressure that brought  
his downfall against Paes, on Sunday it was his poor fitness -- although  
the heat was dehydrating -- that led to his defeat.

Dustov showed signs of coming to terms with the grass courts, on which he  
was playing his first Davis Cup tie. There were a couple of drop shots  
that showed Dustov in good touch, and his strong serving helped him go  
neck and neck with Amritraj in the first set.

In fact, his confidence was so high that despite two double faults, he was  
able to avert four breakpoints in the fourth game. He went on to save  
three more of them in the 10th and push the set into the tie-breaker.

Amritraj on the other hand, after a good start, was beginning to make a  
few unforced errors. Four volley errors saw him blow up the tie-breaker  
and go one set down.

But the 22-year-old California resident turned around the proceedings, not  
without some help from his rival.

A back hand into the net saw Dustov face a double breakpoint in the fifth  
game, and the Uzbek conceded it with a double fault.

It was all downhill from there on for Dustov who took a medical timeout  
after seventh game to receive treatment for loss of fluid.

There was no hint of Dustov making an effort to put up a challenge in the  
decider as he dropped serve in the fifth and seventh games to concede the  
match.

"Naturally, matches of dead rubber ... already thinking about September  
play-off. The adrenalin was a bit less, but you are still representing you  
country and you have to have certain level of behaviour and performance,"  
Amritraj said.

Mankad displayed tremendous motivational levels to come and play the way  
he did after being on the chair for the first two days.

Inoyatov opened strongly with two aces but then a double fault and a  
stunning service return from Mankad saw him face a breakpoint, and he put  
a back hand volley long to drop serve.

Mankad saw the advantage slip of his hands in the 10th game through  
Inoyatov's steady returns and two double faults but the Mumbaikar got back  
on top of his opponent with some sparkling returns in the next.

"Leander had told me on Thursday (day of the draw) that I should be  
mentally prepared to play on Sunday, so preparation wise I was ready,"  
Mankad said after the match.

"As the game progressed, I was able to figure out the speed of the court  
and my returns got better and better. Leander also told me to take the  
serve from one step behind, little things like those helped."

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[Goanet]Karishma, Asrani and Sameer to atten 5th May Queen Ball in Qatar

2005-05-01 Thread Goa's Pride www.goa-world.com
KARISHMA, ASRANI AND SAMEER TO ATTEND 5TH MAY QUEEN BALL ON 05-05-05 IN QATAR:


VETERAN Hindi film comedian Asrani, film actor Sameer Dharmadhikari (Raincoat, 
Agni Pankh, Satta,)  and Karishma Tana of the TV serial "Kyunki Saas Bhi Kabhi 
Bahu Thi" are coming to Qatar for the titled 05-05-05, 5th Annual May Queen 
Ball 2005.

They will be joined by Glen, director of the forthcoming Jane Hoga Kya, 
Aparna, Indian television’s first female director of photography, and Sarita, 
costume designer for the event to be held on May 5 at the Diplomatic Club.

The May Queen Ball, being organised by the Goan Welfare Association (GWA), is 
to start at 8.30pm. Highlights of the dinner and dance will be the crowning of 
May Queen 2005 by the visiting actors. 

“We are working very hard ... to make the 5th Anniversary a grand success and 
to the satisfaction of our sponsors, guests and well-wishers. Lots of prizes 
to be won including gold, airline tickets, gift vouchers, electronic items and 
surprise prizes sponsored by the top business houses.”, said Simon D’Silva, 
president of the Association.

“ARCHIES” India’s leading and Goa’s No. 1 live Band will be playing for the 
MAY BALL along with versatile female singer Miss. TANIA DA COSTA.

Desert Thunder D.J. Alex will give a rendition of his best musical 
extravaganza. Updesh Swar from Goa will be flown in to Qatar to compere the 
event.

The tickets are priced at Qr. 80/- per adult and Qrs. 60/- per child between 5-
10 years and Spot Entrance Qrs. 100/- subject to the availability of tickets, 
since the sale is expected to be closed by Tuesday, 3rd May 2005. Tickets are 
available at Designers Tailors on 4325478, Kebab King on 4433119, Mazza 
Restaurant on 4350077 and from the Managing Committee members. Dress Code is 
FORMAL.

The main sponsor is Al-Sulaiman Jewellers, Doha Bank and Al-Muftah Group are 
co-sponsors. The official carrier is Qatar Airways, official hotel is RAMADA 
and official newspaper Gulf Times. Video/photography is by Gulf Colours.   

(Info source: GWA-Qatar)

You heard it first at http://www.goa-world.com


UPCOMING EVENT IN GOA:
FRUIT FEST 2005   http://www.goa-world.com/goa/fruitfest/



[Goanet]Re: Cafetaria Catholics -Priesthood is not about things he does, ...

2005-05-01 Thread Carlos
George: I thought you were asleep and may not have read the papers. Are you  
on 24/7 schedule? Anyway, give my regards to Liam.
Carlos



[Goanet]The old days......................

2005-05-01 Thread Vivian
Domnic:

You bring tears to my eyes by your very descriptive stories about the old 
days.  Having lived some of the experiences, for me it is a smile mixed with 
tears of happiness.  Thank you !  I hope you will compile a book of all these 
stories.  It would a treasure for us to pass down to our children and 
grandchildren.

Vivian



[Goanet]Domnic's articles

2005-05-01 Thread Francis
Hi Domnic,

I hope you are fine.

Thanks for your two emails - Incredible soap producing berries and also Goan 
Summer Fruits.  Both of them were interesting.

Have a nice day.

Regards
Francis



[Goanet]May 2005 issue of 'Gulab'

2005-05-01 Thread New Age Printing Press
May issue of  'Gulab' hits the news stands

The May issue of Goa's illustrated Konkani monthly 'Gulab' carrying a
special feature on the late Pope John Paul II and Pope Benedict XVI is out
on sale.

This issue also carries enlightening articles by renowned Konkani writers
Fr. Moreno de Souza, Fr. Manuel P. Gomes, Pio Esteves, Fr. Thomas Lobo on
the popes, besides articles on other various topics -  'Amkam Venchnnuk
Favo?' by Chandrakanth Keni, 'Aiz Kalchem Xikop' by Cursino R. Pinho,
'Plastik Batleo-Bholaikecher Akromonn' by Jose Dias, 'Konknni Lipim Vixim
Sot' by Prof. S M Borges etc. and an interview with the double century king
of the Konkani stage Menino de Bandar.

This issue marks the first death anniversary of the Konkani stalwarts late
Fr. Freddy J. Da Costa, ex editor and publisher of  'Gulab' & late Felicio
Cardozo with the editorial 'Ek Voros Somptana...' and Soter Barreto's
"Tancho Ugddas Omor Urtolo' who pays rich tributes to late Fr. Freddy &
Felicio.

The issue is available at all the news stands in Goa & Mumbai or email
gulab_goa@ sancharnet.in



May issue of  'Gulab' hits the news 
standsThe May issue of Goa's illustrated Konkani monthly 'Gulab' 
carrying aspecial feature on the late Pope John Paul II and Pope Benedict 
XVI is outon sale.This issue also carries enlightening articles by 
renowned Konkani writersFr. Moreno de Souza, Fr. Manuel P. Gomes, Pio 
Esteves, Fr. Thomas Lobo onthe popes, besides articles on other various 
topics -  'Amkam VenchnnukFavo?' by Chandrakanth Keni, 'Aiz Kalchem 
Xikop' by Cursino R. Pinho,'Plastik Batleo-Bholaikecher Akromonn' by Jose 
Dias, 'Konknni Lipim ViximSot' by Prof. S M Borges etc. and an interview 
with the double century kingof the Konkani stage Menino de 
Bandar.This issue marks the first death anniversary of the Konkani 
stalwarts lateFr. Freddy J. Da Costa, ex editor and publisher of  
'Gulab' & late FelicioCardozo with the editorial 'Ek Voros Somptana...' 
and Soter Barreto's"Tancho Ugddas Omor Urtolo' who pays rich tributes to 
late Fr. Freddy &Felicio.The issue is available at all the news 
stands in Goa & Mumbai or emailgulab_goa@ 
sancharnet.in


[Goanet]That was a wonderful piece of an email Domnic

2005-05-01 Thread juanito
MERA BAHUT PYARE DOST AUR BHAI DOMNIC,

Thanks for SHARING a very interesting email.  Truly life is better in the 
olden days sans modern facilities we are enjoying today.  People then are 
healthier and stronger because they did really make use of their hands - in 
short, MORE HARDWORKING.  Furthermore, people then have more quality as they 
have HIGH MORALS and PYAR in their hearts unlike today.

Life was better in the past beause life was much simpler and people were 
really human beings then.  When I was a child, I remember with nostalgia that 
neighbors used to exchange food and blessings.   Aaah, those were the days.

Have a nice day.

Apka ka dost aur bhai.

Johnny



[Goanet]Re: Cafeteria Catholics

2005-05-01 Thread Fr. Ivo Da C. Souza
Homosexuality is against human nature. Human being is complete in male and 
female. Biologically, psychologically, spiritually, emotionally we experience 
this truth based on human nature itself, not on "antiquated religious dogma". 
Marriage reveals the truth of this tenet. Nobody can change the fact. When 
there is an aberration in this light, we have to admit that it is an 
aberration. The fact that some scientists have been "homosexuals" and yet 
contributed to the progress of science, technology and society does not dilute 
the fact nor legitimize it. There are alcoholics, who in fact consider 
alcoholism a sickness, yet they have to struggle against this "disease" and 
are contributing to the progress of the society--though we have to accept that 
alcoholism hampers their human growth to a great extent. This comparison has 
to be taken as a comparison only--namely, a sick person may be an intellectual 
genius, yet he does not cease to be psychologically 'sick', if he is a 
homosexual or an alcoholic...

Homosexuality is anti-society, anti-marriage, anti-family... There cannot 
be "gay marriages", it is a contradiction in terms. Our anatomy vouches for 
it. The family needs a father and a mother. Children and young people need a 
Papa and a Mama, not two papas, or two mamas...
This is not "religious dogma", it is order of nature, which nobody can change. 
The fact that homosexuality exists among leaders and intellectuals does not 
change the natural order. It is an aberration, it is abnormality. Our society 
is suffering already from the consequences of all kinds of aberrations, one of 
these is homosexual, 'same-sex' union... Enough is enough...
Let us teach our young people the 'facts of life' in a correct way, let us 
help those who have this craze, with love and compassion, without condemning 
them, but rejecting homosexuality...

Ivo da C.Souza



[Goanet]Paes puts team before history

2005-05-01 Thread Eustaquio Santimano
Paes puts team before history
May 01, 2005 17:22 IST
Davis Cup captain Leander Paes reaffirmed that he had not given up on  
playing singles yet, and that he had in sight the records as well.

Paes has the most overall wins in contemporary tennis in Davis Cup and his  
74-30 win-loss record after the doubles win against Uzbekistan on Saturday  
put him on par with Brazilian Tomas Koch.

One more win would have catapulted him above Koch to the eighth place in  
the all time list, but the Indian captain nominated Harsh Mankad to play  
the last reverse singles.

Mankad went on to post a comfortable win as India whitewashed Uzbekistan  
5-0 in the Asia Oceania Group 1 second round tie at the Jai Club courts.

Paes, 31, who declared that rewriting history books was one of his goals  
after the first day of the tie, said as a player he had the record in his  
mind but had to put responsibility as captain ahead of it.

"Two days ago everyone was asking if I should play singles at all, last  
evening they were telling me I better play the singles. It was quite a  
turn around," he said.

"There are two ways to look at it. One, to be selfish and go for the  
records... I have my homework done and know how many matches I have to  
play to get to the top five (in Davis Cup wins). I am going to be here for  
another two-three years, as long as I am fit to play I will play."

"The other way of looking at is to keep the morale of the team high. Harsh  
has been playing very good tennis for the last two-three months, and it is  
my job to let him know that the captain has the belief and faith in him.

"He will know today that as long as he is the best man for the job, he is  
going to play," Paes said.

"These boys are now grown up men and mature to handle things in life. My  
job is to make them play to their potential."

Paes said now that India were one match away from entering the World Group  
next year, he was doing his preparation for singles matches.

"My doubles partner (on ATP Tour) Nenad Zimonjic is a singles player, and  
I do train playing singles with him. We put in three hours of work out  
every day, and my work ethic on the Tour is excellent," he said.

"I am myself ready to play the singles, and I am going to push these two  
guys (Amritraj and Mankad)."

Paes said the team has come up well particularly after the second round  
loss against Japan last year.

"Coming against Japan, this team was not a team. There were lots of  
chinks. Now each individual knows his place in the team, that he has an  
important role to play, Paes said.

"We may not have a top-10 player but it doesn't bother me, as long as the  
boys perform as well as they did here."

India's opponent in the play-off in September will be one of the eight  
first round losers from the World Group. There are high prospects for  
India to draw a home tie as five of those team they had play away last  
time they met.

The venue for a face off with Spain, who they have not played before, will  
be decided by toss of the coin, while the other two -- Sweden and Chile --  
will be away matches.

"I dread (playing) Chile in Chile," Paes said of the South American team  
that comprises Athens Olympics singles and doubles gold medallists.

Paes said India now had the nucleus that could take it to the World Group  
team in the coming years.

"The way I look at it, we have three solid singles players. We have to get  
better with singles play," he said.

"Whenever a boy comes into a Davis Cup tie, he leaves as a better player.  
That is how I got better, and definitely these two (Amritraj and Mankad)  
will also get better," he said.

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[Goanet]Domnic: Fruits in Goa

2005-05-01 Thread C. Menezes
Dear Dominic,

Thanks for the nostalgic down the "wild fruit memory lane"!!

Takes me back to the forties (am in my seventies now) when all you relate 
was "all done in a days woork"

I lived in Sagolda, but mine and my mates (three of us) domain was from the 
hills of Sangolda to Pilerne and from Saligao to Porvorim. Of course during
this time Cajus were also available. I remember the "focam" and the fruit when 
we were chased by the "cazcars" to whom the areas were "rented for the crop".

AAAhhh what memories!!!  Thanks for re-igniting them!

Cheers.



[Goanet]Swinging in Saligao... VRR in The Navhind Times

2005-05-01 Thread Frederick Noronha (FN)
Writer Victor Rangel-Ribeiro has written a nice article on the 
simple Salmona spring -- currently in the news for all the wrong reasons 
-- and his write-up gets a very prominent display in today's Navhind 
Times' Sunday magazines front page. An excerpt:

Long before there was a panchayat in the village of
Saligao, and therefore long before there was a
sarpanch, long before a village had risen on that
site or even the first house had been built, a merry
little spring burbled out of the ground in what we
now call Salmona. The spring is in fact as old as the
ancient hills, whose underground waters it releases
into the sunshine; it is Mother Nature's gift to
Goa, less spectacular than Dudhsagar and Aravalem,
but to Saligao's seven thousand villagers it is
ecologically just as significant.
When in 1930 I was a child growing up in Saligao,
these were the pleasures of being five years old:
one could play marbles in the street without fear
of traffic; if a car should come rattling along,
one could race it for fifty yards before it passed
you; you could play cricket using a 'piddo' for a
bat, and a ball made out an old sock; and one could
trot behind a bunch of older boys to the Salmona
spring. It was at this spring that my fourteen-year-old
brother Oscar and his friends grabbed hold of banyan
tree roots and swung across impossibly wide chasms,
pretending to be Tarzan; it was at this spring that I
plucked up my couraged, waded out into a shallow
pool, and caught my first dragonfly.
I left Goa in 1939 as a fourteen-year-old myself, and
when I finally returned in 1988 for an extended stay,
one of the first things I asked my driver in Porvorim
to do was take me to the Salmona spring. It was not
quite as I remembered it; there seemed to be a hosue or
two much closer to the water; and the spring was no
longer pristine, but had been built up; the water now
poured out of a spout, and there were people washing
clothes lower down, sharing the stream with a placid
calf...
FN
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[Goanet]Goan Fruits

2005-05-01 Thread C DCosta
Hi Dominic,

Your antique shelf articles are worth its weight in gold. Do put these in
a book form, someday.

Dominic, I remember another activity during the summer for us n Salcette was 
to go to the hills and steal cashew nuts. Infact every evening as the sun went 
down and the Cazkar returned home we headed up the hill stealing seeds from 
the apples in plastic bags, pant pockets etc. The apples were left strewn on 
the floor for the cazkar use of neera.

Sometimes the raid on the hill was conducted during the afternoon at about 
12:30 - 1:00pm because we knew the cazkar would be tight and sleeping under
some cashew tree. It was fun many a time stealing seeds from right under his 
nose. The fun of such raids was to do a good heist and not get caught. It was 
a typical cat and mouse game.

The cazkar would catch some kids and the others escaped but the caught cazkars 
were often sent off with warnings after taking back all their seeds. Even 
though the cazkar knew us, the parents were never told of what we kids did, I 
guess the cazkar often enjoyed kids stealing his stuff cause he too must have 
done this at some point in time duing his kiddy days.

I remember many a time as the cazkar took his afternoon nap, we would go 
stealing and after we were done with it, we would go far away from where he
slept and shout "Koooy, koooy" and wake him up and sprint down the hill even 
before he could realise who it was and the loss we had created for him. Many a 
time he would come running after us and we would sprinnt for our dear 
lifes "PODOT, MOROT" as one would say in Konkani. I still have scars on my 
knees, hips and ankles of stratches and scar maks of wounds I had after 
falling on gravel, rock stone etc. while escaping a cazkar's clutches. All 
this was in good fun. We never realised the loss in revenue our stealing would 
create for the Cazkar, all we were interested was in having some fun at the 
cazkar cost and the adrenelin rush to do some things daring as this. I guess, 
todays kids will never see this activity and the fun that went with it.

We sold the stolen seeds to the posorkar who never questioned us kids even 
though he knew we had pinched them from the village hills. The money earned 
was betted on playing football or cricket matches during the day or was used 
to purchase footballs, cricket balls etc. or was simply used as pocket money.

The other activity during the summer was swimming after a match in the local 
village manos, eating raw mango with salt as you said, throwing the mango 
around from person to person so that he could get a bite too all as we swam.

The other holiday activity was eating JAMM (love apples). This usually 
happened in Diwali or Otcober/November season. In this season we also eat 
Jagmas, which had to be softened on our plams and eat to get the real taste 
just used said.

There was another fruit, called ADAO. We ate the fruit and collected the seeds 
which were later used to gamble at palying the card game flash or Rammy etc.

Please do some write-ups on these, when you have time. Thanks and God Bless.

Regards,
Catveno.



[Goanet]Re: Cafeteria - a brief response to Gilbert

2005-05-01 Thread Fr. Ivo Da C. Souza
For a Christian there is only one commandment, given by Jesus, the 
Christ: "Love one another, as I have loved you", that is, I loved you from the 
Cross, epitome of Love, you love with the same love which is being poured out 
within your hearts. Only with this love could the Saints live a heroic life. 
Mother Tereza loved the poorest of the poor with this love, she found Jesus in 
the poor, Jesus who enabled her to do what she did. She found her strength in 
the Eucharist, in the prayer, in the meditation, in the contemplation... She 
fulfilled the Law with perfection and realised herself as a human being. If we 
do this within our vocation, we are Saints...

Ivo da C.Souza

Original Message ---
GL:
We need to get our semantics on the same wave length. Not suprising for cyber 
Goa. 

The person you describe below is not a fundamentalist Catholic. He/She is a 
true practicing Catholic like Mother Teresa. The person is a Saint!  
Regards.

Santosh Helekar 
A Fundamentalist Catholic, on the other hand, would follow all commandments 
and doctrines in letter and spirit without asking any questions. 

--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
> To Santosh: A fanatic / fundamentalist in my view may be going against the 
second commandment of Jesus (the first commandment was from Moses) which
> is:  Love your neighbor as thyself.



[Goanet]Re: Zambllam

2005-05-01 Thread Daphne
Hi Dominic,

I really enjoyed reading  your article on the four fruits which left me much 
more than a little homesick!! I used to teach Biology in a Hr. Sec. School in 
Arambol and as part of an activity we used to take the students to the hills 
behind the school to teach them about the interaction between the native 
plants and and animals-seed dispersion etc...however I usually came back from 
those trips learning much more from them -local knowledge which you hardly 
find in textbooks and a bag full of all the fruit you mentioned !!! I remember 
as a child though my parents always cautioned me about drinking water before 
(or was it after?!) eating zamblams---is there any thing to that ?I'd like to 
know  I think I was too chicken to try out!!

Bye for now
Daphne



[Goanet]Salgaocar hold East Bengal goalless

2005-05-01 Thread Eustaquio Santimano
Salgaocar hold East Bengal goalless
May 01, 2005 20:13 IST
Defending champions East Bengal survived anxious moments through the match  
but managed to hold Salgaocar to a goalless draw in the ONGC ninth  
National Football League, played at Nehru stadium, in Margao on Sunday.

The draw puts pressure on East Bengal as they bid to clinch the title for  
the third sucessive year.

East Bengal, who are on third place with 40 points from 19 matches, now  
need to win all the three remaining matches to claim the title if Sporting  
wins their next two matches.

Salgaocar are in seventh position with 24 points from 20 matches.
Salgaocar who dominated the match throughout put East Bengal under  
tremendous pressure and could have taken lead as early as in the 3rd  
minute but Jerose Oliveira chested the ball straight into keeper Sangram  
Mukherjee hands off Bello Rasaq pass.

Fabio Passo who worked hard in the middle was guilty twice when he failed  
to score clear chance off Felix Ibrebru pass.

East Bengal who could afford to draw one of their four matches played a  
cautious and had a glorious chance midway in the first half but Ernest  
Jermah who was put through inside the box directed his weak shot straight  
to keeper Juje Siddi Hands.

Earlier Alvito D'cunha who posed danger whenever he had the ball with his  
fine run down the flank tested 'keeper Siddi who punched the ball out of  
danger from a free kick.

The second half was saw some tensed moments and referee Rizwan Ul Haq did  
well to bring the match under control as he showed yellow cards to  
Salgaocar's Remus Gomes, Prasant Jaggi, John Dias and East Bengal's Ernest  
Jeremah, Debhit Ghos.

He also sent East Bengal physio Rajesh out of the ground as he tried to  
enter the field without informing the referee midway in the second half.

Salgaocar continued to hold the domination and hard working Felix Ibrebru  
who got the man of the match award was denied a goal as East Bengal  
'keeper Sangram kept his shot out.

Sangram again came to his side rescue midway in the second half when he  
dived to his right to bring off a fine save off Felix.

Earlier Fabio Passo missed a clear chance off a through pass by Felix.
Salgaocar who kept on the pressure and were unlucky in the dying minutes  
when Felix Ibrebru 25-yards shot slipped from keeper Sangram hands and  
went out. In the stoppage time East Bengal's Climax Lawrence came to his  
side rescue when he headed out a Bello Rasa shot.

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[Goanet]Re: SALT (MITT!)

2005-05-01 Thread Brian Rod
HI DOM, wHY DON'T YOU COMPILE A SMALL ENCYCLOPAEDIA ON THE TOPICS YOU WRITE?

i TELL YOU, IT WOULD BE A GREAT BESTSELLER SPECIALLY AMONG GOANS IN UK, USA, 
CANADA, AUSTRALIA ETC.

HAVE A NICE DAY AND KEEP WRITING.

GOD BLESS YOU.

BRIAN



[Goanet]Re: Goan Fruits and MITT

2005-05-01 Thread Cynthia D.
Hello Dominic,

I would just like to thank you for the wonderful articles you write on 
different subjects in Goa it is not only great reading but also very 
amusing and educating. Continue the good work and I always look forward to 
reading your articles.

Best regards,
Cynthia
(from Goa but residing in France right now)



[Goanet]cuncolim ground inaguaration on may 5

2005-05-01 Thread armstrong augusto vaz
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

BY ARMSTRONG VAZ

CUNCOLIM MAY 1;- After several false starts, for the last two years, the 
Cuncolim ground is finally destined for take off and complete the incomplete 
race, while overcoming many a hurdle in its path.  The Cuncolim football 
constructed under the government school playground scheme with additional 
funds being made available through the local MP local area development scheme 
would be inaugurated on May 5th at 4.30 p.m. at the hands of the Goa governor 
S C jamir.

On the occasion an exhibition match between Churchill bros and Goa under  21 
team would be played.

Politicians including chief ministers and sports minister have come and gone 
giving assurances which they had failed to fulfill in completing the Cuncolim 
ground, with the work of the Cuncolim ground dragging for the last two years.

This is the first ground in  the historic Cuncolim village and the former MLA 
and agriculture minister  Arecio D’souza was instrumental in moving the first 
phase of the project going with filling of the paddy fields with mud for the 
project. The works which was completed  at the cost of Rs.38 lakhs almost two 
and half years back,.

Churchill Alemao has allotted Rs.25 lakhs for the first phase of the work  for 
the Cuncolim ground while the additional funds have come through the sports 
authority of Goa.

Local MLA Joaqium Alemao informed that additional funds of Rs.70 lakhs would 
be provided for additional works at the mini stadium. The works he said  would 
be completed in the second phase.

It may recalled that the ground was to be inaugurated  on 27th  September 
2003  but was called in the mist of protests from locals who took protest to 
the incomplete ground being inaugurated during the tenure of  former sports 
minister Francisco pachecho.

It may recalled that then Sports Minister Pachecho too had accompanied the 
former Cuncolim MLA Arecio D'souza to the site of the Cuncolim ground and 
given an assurance soon after the constitution of the present assembly in the 
month of August 2002 that he will complete the ground within six months.

In the first phase of the project a seven metre approach road is  constructed 
through the land acquired by the government for the bus stand. Further a well 
is constructed for supplying water for maintenance of the grounds, providing 
turf surface for the ground.



[Goanet]Re: Salt

2005-05-01 Thread Juliet De Souza
Dominic,

I so enjoy your articles, the latest one on Salt, they bring back fond 
memories of my days in Goa and rekindle in my mind words and phrases long 
forgotten because we do not use them any more, keep the treats coming and 
thank you so much. I remember how my stepmother used to make salt fish at home 
using tons of salt for the mackerels and then we dried them in the sun, also 
salting kokum (bindichim solam) and mango seeds for the rainy season, my 
husband tried making salt fish from sardines here in LA in the 110 degree heat 
during the summer turned out pretty good!

Juliet
USA



[Goanet]Re: MITT

2005-05-01 Thread C. Fernandes
Dear Domnic,

Glad to read a lot inspiring news in Goanet Digest.  I really appreciate what 
you write. It gives to Goans a lot of information which I had not known.

Celes



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IN TODAY'S EZINE: CET and Pernem demolitions continue in the news.
Journalists' union elections, Tomazinho Cardozo retires as principal, and
interesting links from the cyber Goa world. Stay in touch with
http://www.goanet.org

o Goa students appearing for the Common Entrance Test (for professional
  admissions) say the question papers were from 'out of the syllabus'.(NT)
o Demolition of shacks at Keri (Pernem) is illegal, charges BJP
  MLA Laxmikant Parsekar. He said five shacks demolished earlier this
  week had existed for 30-35 years near the Keri-Terekhol ferry. (NT)
o Pernem police filed a case against the Mandrem MLA Parsekar and 100
  BJP workers for unlawful assembly, obstructing government servants
  on duty and damage to government property. (H)
o BJP says no action taken against coastal regulation zone violations
  along Bardez and Salcete coast. (H)
o Dr Arthur Gomes will be the new principal of the Government
  College, Pernem. He helped set up government colleges in Sanquelim
  and Quepem earlier. (H)
o Uncertainty over Congress party polls continues in Goa. (NT)
o Quality Internet bandwidth must for Goa educational institutions:expert.

ASHLEY DO ROSARIO has been re-elected as president of
the Goa Union of Journalists. He got 79 votes, against 47
polled by Suhasini Prabhugaonkar (Gomantak) and six by
Dr Bala Murali Krishna (UNI). 

  For a copy of outgoing general secretary Vithaldas Hegde's report on the
  issues affecting journalists in Goa, visit
  http://puggy.symonds.net/pipermail/goajourno/2005-May/002072.html

TOMAZINHO CARDOZO RETIRES, and writes: "On May 1, 2005, I
shall retired after serving in the educational field of Goa
for 33 years and 10 months to be exact. In fact, these 33
years and 10 months I consider to be the best years of my life
-- years of satisfaction and fulfilment When I joined
politics, many of my friends used to tell me that I would
not be able to come out of it. I have proved them wrong."
[Cardoso has also been a Speaker of the Goa assembly, apart
from being a teacher and headmaster in Candolim, Arpora, etc.]

o CHILDREN'S WORKSHOP: Xandev Foundation and Pidelite is to hold a ten-day
  workshop on glass, fabric painting, sticker-making and craft for
  children aged five and above. Xandev Space, Mayfair Hotel 9822 153075.
  It begins from May 9 onwards.
o Goa celebrates installation of new Pope with Pontifical Mass.(NT)
o Arlem fest draws a huge crowd. (GT)
o Blessing of St Sebastian Chapel, Durbat, Ponda, on May 3. (GT)
o Tiatr integral part of Goan culture, says Governor Jamir. (H)
o 21-year-old Subhash Naik who raped a six-year-old child at Mandrem
  has been sentenced to 10 years rigorous imprisonment. The child
  was alone at home as her father had gone to see his wife at the
  hospital where she was admitted, carrying food. Sessions judge
  Anuja Prabhudesai rejected Naik's plea of not guilty. (H)

SLUM SETS ON GOA'S BEAUTY: One of the ugliest sights on the
shores of Goa is the debris and the muck that comes up when
the waters recede during low tide. But there's an even
seedier urban underbelly that has ripped off Goa's beauty
and brought in its wake slums, slum-lords, prostitution,
paedophiles and political influence. From Mandrem to Colva,
the slumming of Goa is causing the shaming of Goa. (GT)

SUZETTE ADVANI, a fashion designer from Goa, is featured in GT.
She says, "Designing is 200 percent perspiration."

BROTHER MANUEL MERGULHAO is "coming to Goa his home
town" with promises of "blessings, healing and deliverance,
for you, your family, your job, your business, and your finances".
http://www.manuelministries.org Governor Jamir, his wife Elmela
and South Goa MP Churchill Alemao to grace the occasion at
Kala Academy, May 1 evening, says an advert. 

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DEATHS & OBITUARIES
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CHINCHINIM: Bonifacio C Mariano de Sa, b 1932. Husband of Carmeline de Sa,
father of Anthony. Brother/in-law of G

[Goanet]Deep Freeze

2005-05-01 Thread Goa's Pride www.goa-world.com
Deep Freeze
The Asian Age India | Seema Mustafa 

Does the Congress leadership have a death wish? Why is
it that the top brass of the party does not leave well
alone? Is there a deep sense of insecurity that comes
in the way of allowing party members to function as
free, intelligent individuals with vast experience on
their side?

Why is there such a deep prejudice against regional
parties and regional leaders, including those from the
Congress party, who are treated shabbily and with
marked disrespect?

These questions surface every few weeks but are rarely
answered, as the Congress leadership shifts from
making one crisis to another. Jharkhand, Bihar, Goa
and suddenly Congress president Sonia Gandhi was
whisked away from centre stage of events by the loyal
coterie to the outhouse, disclaiming all interest in
the politics of vulgar power that had shocked the
nation and left a bad taste in the democratic mouth.
Prime Minister Manmohan Singh was brought in for
damage control, and while he was unable to repair the
fabric of trust and confidence torn apart by unbridled
ambition, he did manage to avert the immediate crisis.

Congress president Sonia Gandhi, we are told, is in
charge of the party. When the decisions go awry, we
are told, that the fault lies in either the system or
in her advisors. At the same time, we are told, that
she is the last word in the party and no one can defy
her will. Even the Prime Minister refers party leaders
to her for crucial decisions. So if one is prepared to
accept the Congress party's insistence that she is the
one and only leader, it stands to reason that she must
be held accountable for right and wrong decisions
taken by the Congress party.

There is then no point in blaming Ahmed Patel, Ambika
Soni and Janardhan Dwivedi for leading the attack on
Delhi chief minister Sheila Dikshit. Given the power
wielded by Mrs Sonia Gandhi, and her hold on the
party, she has to be given the credit, or otherwise,
for the recent efforts by the AICC to destabilise its
own government in Delhi. 

So until Ahmed Patel tells us otherwise, Mrs Sonia
Gandhi decided to tame the chief minister whose
popularity is clearly a cause of concern. Her
detractors were told to mount an orchestrated
campaign, to insult and virtually abuse the chief
minister at a meeting, and then to use her emotional
reaction of walking out as yet another weapon to beat
her with. 

She was told in clear terms that she could survive
only if she met Mrs Sonia Gandhi to explain her
position. And when she tried to do so, she was further
told, that Madam will entertain you only if you come
through the proper channels, that is via the general
secretary in charge of Delhi, Ashok Gehlot. 

There was a time when even a Congress member would
have had the courage to resign over such treatment.
But that time belonged clearly to the prehistoric age.
Ms Sheila Dikshit went through the proper channels and
emerged from 10, Janpath suitably chastened. 

Remember you are answerable to the party and become
more accessible, she was told. And remember who is
your boss. Interesting advice, considering the fact
that Mrs Sonia Gandhi herself does not meet her party
workers, is totally inaccessible not just to them but
to her chief ministers and her PCC presidents as well.
Mrs Dikshit had to wait for an audience, as had
Maharashtra chief minister who was kept cooling his
heels in Delhi for three days before the party
president found time to meet him.

Punjab chief minister Amarinder Singh suffered the
same treatment when he fell foul of 10, Janpath as did
veteran Kerala Congress leader K. Karunakaran as did
former Madhya Pradesh chief minister Digvijay Singh as
did Uttaranchal chief minister N.D. Tiwari as did… The
list is endless, for Mrs Sonia Gandhi's ultimate
weapon is "The Freeze" and that unnerves even those
who value their independence. Prime Minister Manmohan
Singh also felt the icy waves not so very long ago. 

The Congress party has reduced itself to a sad little
party of warring individuals who are the first to
admit that the party would disintegrate if there was
no 10, Janpath to keep it together. Why? Because we
cannot stand each other, is the proud and honest reply
from all party members who acknowledge that their
dislike for each other, compounded by deep insecurity,
makes it imperative for them to keep the Family in
power. 

Coteries always tend to grow and flourish around
power, and in a party like the Congress, draw their
strength directly from the party president. And such
is this strength that these men and women do not need
to contest elections for they are more powerful than
Congress chief ministers and elected representatives.
For instance, Mrs Sheila Dikshit has led the party to
power twice in a BJP influenced state like Delhi. 

She has ensured six of the seven Lok Sabha seats for
her party, has practised commendable secular politics,
and comes through as a gracious, honest leader who has
managed to keep the BJP out of powe

[Goanet]RE: Our possible partial knowledge & the Real Cafeteria Catholics

2005-05-01 Thread jose colaco
From: "Fr. Ivo Da C. Souza" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
< Homosexuality is against human nature. Human being is complete in male and 
female>
< Nobody can change the fact.>
< Our anatomy vouches for it>
< Let us teach our young people the 'facts of life' in a correct way>


Thank you Fr. Ivo for your excellent posts on the Cafeteria matter.  However 
the above is noted with some degree of surprise.

The following is NOT in support of any particular lifestyle - inherited, 
imposed, learnt or chosen. It is to emphasise the point that blanket 
statements are unwise - however well-intentioned they might be.

Before we aspire to teach our young people the 'facts of life' in a correct 
way, we may wish to ascertain the 'facts of life'.

I wonder what scientific references there are to support the generalisation 
that every "Human being is complete in male and female"

Are there NO exceptions?
If so...how many?
How many individuals are feminized by abuse (at a very young age) itself, 
and How many have a genetic prediliction to developing it.

Furthermore, are ALL who look male, male wrt to the hormones and the effects 
of the hormones?

please see:->
http://www.nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/ency/article/001180.htm
Androgen insensitivity syndrome (AIS) is when a person has one X and one Y 
sex chromosome (making them genetically male), but is resistant to androgens 
(male hormones). As a result, the individual has some or all of the physical 
characteristics of a woman, despite having the genetic makeup of a man.

The syndrome is divided into two main categories: complete and incomplete. 
Complete AIS results in someone who looks outwardly female. In the 
incomplete AIS syndrome, the degree of sexual ambiguity varies widely from 
individual to individual.

Partial Androgen Insensitivity Syndrome
also known as:
   PAIS
   Reifenstein Syndrome
   Androgen Insensitivity Syndrome, Partial
   Gilbert-Dreyfus Syndrome
   Incomplete Testicular Feminization
   Lubs Syndrome
   Rosewater Syndrome
   Type I Familial Incomplete Male Pseudohermaphroditism
jc
PS: Our views on the abuse & the criminal coverup + silence by the Real 
Cafeteria Catholics : -> at:

http://www.colaco.net/3/church-lurch.htm
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[Goanet]Re: Cafeteria Catholics

2005-05-01 Thread Fr. Ivo Da C. Souza
I do  not deny the facts. I have affirmed that homosexuality is wrong. Yet the 
priests have to be helped. The problem boils down to what I have said: Let us 
do something for them...

Ivo da C.Souza


Original Message ---
Fr. Ivo da C. Souza,

Here in N. America, its estimated that 4 out of every
1,000 priests are homosexual. Many of them joined the
priesthood because they did not want to disclose to
their family that they were gay. I used to go to a
church in Washington, D.C. that had a gay priest. I
have no problems with gay priest if they keep their
vows of celibacy.
 
Mervyn3.0



[Goanet]May 2005 feasts and fairs calendar in Goa

2005-05-01 Thread Frederick Noronha
---
MAY 2005
---

Christian feastsHindu festivals

o May 1 Feast of St Joseph  o May 10 Shree
  St Jose de ArealParshuram Jayanti
  Paroda and Majorda
  Saligao and Tilamol   o May 13 Shree Shankaracharya
  Jayanti. Shirgao zatra
o May 3 Feast at Baradi
o May 22 Shree Narsimha
o May 8 Ascension of JesusJayanti. Veling zatra
  Feast at Panjim (8, 9, 10)
  Cavelossim, Verodao May 24 Narad Jayanti
  Paroda and Sanguem
  Santa Cruz (8, 9, 10) -

o May 13 Feast at Cotto Muslim  
  Fatorpa
o May 1 Rabiulavval
o May 15 Pentecostmonth continues
  Feast at Margao (15-17)
  Feast at Quepem   o May 9 Rabiulavval 
  month ends
o May 22 Holy Trinity
  Sanguem and Fatorda   o May 10 Rabilakhar 
  month begins
o May 29 Body and Blood
  of Christ o May 20 Fateh Yazadhum
  Gyarah Sharif
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[Goanet]Domnic Fernandes

2005-05-01 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Appreciation greatly aids in creating psychological landmarks for those in need 
of same, or who already stand appreciated on their own initiative(s).  Dominic 
Fernandes deserves appreciation for giving nostalgia a new countenance in the 
consonance of contemporary survival, especially for Goans.  While intellectual 
discourse is vital for our mental wellbeing, Goanet’s primary objective – I 
believe – was to give everything about Goa a conciliatory resonance among 
Goans.  

Dom Martin



RE: [Goanet]My contribution to the noble profession

2005-05-01 Thread Cip Fernandes

Mr Tomazinho Cardozo was the Chief Guest at Goa-Netters annual get-together
held at Fort Aguada Resort, Siquerim, Goa when he was the Speaker of Goa
Legislative Assembly. Few Goa-netters must have remembered this
get-together.

As a Headmaster, the last posting of Mr Cardozo was at the St Joseph's High
School, Arpora, where I completed my school studies in 1970.  During my last
visit to Goa (October 2004), with full co-operation of Mr Cardozo, I managed
to organised a get-together of my classmates and few schoolmates after 34
years.  Meanwhile he is writing a book on "St Joseph's High School, Arpora".

I know Mr Tomazinho Cardozo for over 25 years as a Teacher, Sarpanch,
Tiartrist and of course, Politician.  Tomazinho and I worked together
tirelessly for the development in Bardez, particularly for Calangute and
surrounding constituencies supporting Dr Wilfred de Souza.  I think
Tomazinho's love for Konkani Tiatre and singing boosted after he got married
to Irene, also a school teacher and a singer.  She used to sing with well
known Hema Sardessai (Goa-netter Sunila's sister).  Tomazinho and Irene have
released many Konkani CDs including "Novem Voros".

Knowing Tomazinho's love for Konkani, Sports, his contributions to so many
Associations including 'Dalgado Konknni Akademi' and his genuine love to
serve the public, perhaps Tomazinho will be more busy than during his
working life.  During our last meeting, I have requested Tomazinho, the
President of 'Dalgado Konknni Akademi' to produce a "Konkani Basic Course
(Romi Script)" book, similar to the one produce in Devnagri script by Fr
Matthew Almeida, S.J. of TSKK.  This proposed book will help Goans all over
the world to learn Romi Konkani with consistency even over the internet.

I wish him best wishes, good health and strength to serve people as he has
done for the last four decades, particularly to save and promote the
language of our ancestors Konkani.

Cip Fernandes
UK / Arpora

=
>From the Navhind Times - Panjim - Goa.
==
by Tomazinho Cardozo


ON May 1, 2005, I shall retire after serving in the educational field of Goa
for 33 years and 10 months to be exact. In fact, these 33 years and 10
months, I consider, are the best years of my life - years of satisfaction
and fulfillment.


I always felt that teachers are the luckiest ones because they were engaged
in teaching for the first half of the day while the other half of the day,
they could use for other important activities, be they educational,
cultural, sporting, social, etc. In fact I did use the other half of the day
for numerous meaningful activities during the last almost 34 years.


I was appointed as a teacher in St Theresa's High School, Candolim in 1971.
During these 34 years, I was fully involved in the sports activities at the
village as well as at the state level. My village, Candolim, is culturally
very rich, which helped us to expose the talent of the youth of this area in
performing arts through cultural organisations namely Kala Mogi, Candolim
and Kandollechim Kironam.


People of Candolim reposed their faith in me. I was elected a member of the
Candolim village panchayat for the first time in 1973. Out of the 27 years
in public life, I served Candolim as its panchayat member for 4 years, as
its sarpanch for 18 years and as the speaker of Goa Legislative Assembly for
almost 5 years. I'm making a mention of these happenings because I came
across different experiences at different times and in different positions.
All this took place during those 34 years when I was a teacher, till 1986,
and headmaster, till date.


As I look back, I realise that along with my teaching profession I
contributed my mite in various other aspects which affect our society.
Consciously or unconsciously, I got involved in various matters of the
society around me while working as a teacher. This was because our society
respects teachers. This mindset of the people of my village gave me a
sustained push to go ahead, and I did it. The teaching profession proved
very beneficial to me. And now, as I am going to bid adieu to my profession,
I felt, I should jot down my experiences.


My love towards sporting and cultural activities flourished much before I
became a teacher. It was like any other individual who makes efforts to
bring out his hidden talents, whenever any opportunity arises, without
having any formal training. I too did the same. But, when I became a
teacher, I found that it was really easy to make use of my talents to
motivate the youth around me to participate in sporting and cultural
activities. It gave excellent results. In 1970s and 1980s Candolim village
became a hub of sports and cultural activities.


The teaching profession is always rewarding. When a teacher does his duty
well, the students love him, the parents adore him and his management
appreciates his work. There is no room for criticism. You feel elated. And
if you happen to be a hea

Re: [Goanet]Red letter day for SHREE MAHALSA DEVALAYA - Verna (Old Mardol) Salcete Goa

2005-05-01 Thread André
Can we read this to mean that with the fall of that
government, such plans have been shelved?


> The erstwhile BJP led coalition Government had decided
> to start Heritage Tourism at this site the first phase
> which admeasures 1,45,800 m2 on the Verna Plateau with
> the NH 17 on the Western side and the Electronic City.
> After the first phase now which ought to have been
> completed on 15 March 2005 there are plans to have a
> Domitory  Cow Camp (Goushalas) Ayurvedic centre etc
> then reading library documentation centre prayer room
> and many other amenities over the years in fact the
> attempt is to  make this site a Global Temple.  The
> name of Verna is a corrupted form of the earlier
> Varunapuri or as the Portuguese called it "Terra de
> Frescura " (land of fresh air). 

Steven Dedalus is my name,
Ireland is my nation.
Clongowes is my dwellingplace, 
And Heaven my expectation.
James Joyce: A Portrait of the Artist as a Young Man
André de Souza : http://pages.stern.nyu.edu/~adesouza


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Re: [Goanet] Cafeteria Catholics – Gays

2005-05-01 Thread Santosh Helekar
Mervyn Lobo wrote:
>
>Unfortunately, for the past 10 years, the Vatican has
>been extremely slow in addressing the problem of gays
>and paedophiles in its ranks.
>

It is inappropriate to compare gays with pedophiles,
and state that gays are a problem. Homosexuality in
consenting adults is a well-documented variation of
human behavior, which in and of itself does no harm to
anybody. Pedophilia, whether heterosexual or
homosexual, on the other hand, is a crime. It does
enormous amount of damage to our children, and can be
regarded, from all points of view, as a grave harm in
our society.

Recently, there was a long debate in the British
Medical Journal (BMJ) regarding the outrageous notion
that homosexuality is a sickness. Until 1973 most
medical diagnostic manuals classified it as a sickness
which needed to be treated, quite likely as a horrible
after-taste of the antiquated religious doctrines. As
a result, in the 1950s, 60s and 70s the British
National Health Service, and many hospitals in the
U.S. and Europe tried to treat homosexuals with
various forms of aversive therapy. It was one of the
great debacles of the now obsolete non-evidence-based
medicine. Essentially, nobody was helped by such
“treatment”. In fact, BMJ counted this as a shameful
chapter in modern medicine’s past.

During this debate a physician, who declared himself
as a Christian under conflicts of interest section of
his letter to the editor, stated his belief that
homosexuality was similar to pedophilia. He was
severely castigated for it in the editorial
correspondence. Indeed, a series of letters blasted
the editor for allowing such a bigoted letter to be
published in BMJ.

Cheers,

Santosh




[Goanet]Goanet Reader -- Can Goa do something in those crucial minutes?

2005-05-01 Thread Goanet Reader
Saving Lives: Can Goa do something in those first crucial minutes?
--

Imagine a scene where an accident has just taken place and the unfortunate
victim is lying on the road in a critical state. Precious minutes go by
before he is transported to the hospital where doctors can begin treating
him.  Now imagine the same scene where an emergency team reaches the
unfortunate victim and trained personnel provide him with vital early
medical care. By the time the victim reaches the hospital where doctors can
attend to him, that early timely care could make all the difference, perhaps
even between life and death.

Thanks to initiatives by the Rotary Clubs of Goa and of Birmingham, UK, Goa
now has an additional valuable tool for pre-hospital medical emergencies.
Four First Responder Pre-hospital care motorcycles were recently handed over
by Rtn. Dilip Salgaocar on behalf of the Rotary Club to the Goa Police which
will function as a first response for medical and traumatic injuries.

Whilst doctors in India are able to provide relatively good care once
victims reach the hospital, a proper set-up for providing vital First Aid is
sadly lacking here. Realising this, the Rotary Clubs of Birmingham, UK and
Goa initiated this project with full support from the Goa Government. 

A team of experts from the UK visited Goa to train local doctors, nurses,
police, firemen and other volunteers from Goa in pre-hospital First Aid
emergency care and trauma management, with more training programs scheduled
for the coming months.

The First Responder Pre-hospital care motorcycles that have been given to
the Goa Police are equipped with basic First Aid equipment that will be used
to treat trauma victims before transporting them to hospital. 

With further advanced training for personnel, the motorcycles will also be
equipped with more sophisticated equipment. Motorcycles have an advantage in
that they are more easily able to maneuver through traffic congestion and
narrow roads and are also less costly than ambulances. Properly used, these
motorcycles can therefore prove to be a valuable addition to the emergency
medical services.

What are the future plans to get this project moving? 

Says Bharat Kamat, President of the Rotary Club, Vasco who has been actively
involved with the project, "We hope to be able to work with the Government
to provide training in first aid and pre-hospital emergency care. We also
look forward to the Government introducing compulsory training and standards
so that proper emergency medical care will be available to citizens."

Hopefully, this initiative of the Rotary Club will make a real difference to
unfortunate trauma victims in the state.


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[Goanet]NEWS-KENYA: Nationalist Murumbi's grave vandalised

2005-05-01 Thread Frederick Noronha (FN)
http://www.eastandard.net/hm_news/news.php?articleid=19341
Nationalist Murumbi's grave vandalised
By Muriithi Mutiga
The late Murumbi
The target of thugs.
Kenya's second Vice-President, Joseph Murumbi, has been subjected to the 
ultimate indignity.

In a shocking night-time incursion, a gang of thieves and fortune hunters 
recently raided his grave in Nairobi, stealing the brass plaque marking 
the spot where he was buried.

They further attempted to dig into his grave and that of his late wife, 
Sheila, who was buried by his side, in a vain attempt to steal any 
treasure that may have been buried aground alongside the two, who were 
renowned art collectors.

Two white marble tablets on which were inscribed the names of the 
distinguished couple buried at the site are now missing from the 
graveyard.

The gruesome discovery was made by Murumbi's long-time friend, and 
business associate, the veteran art collector Alan Donovan, on a random 
visit to the spot, which he has unsuccessfully lobbied the government to 
either fence off, or allow relocation of the graves to the proposed 
heroes' corner.

Reaction by veteran freedom fighters and associates to Mr Murumbi when 
informed of the outrage by The Sunday Standard yesterday was one of 
indignation and disappointment.

Trade unionist Dennis Akumu, who knew Murumbi since the late 1950s, said 
the desecration of the Murumbis' graves was an indictment of government 
neglect of war veterans.

"There could have been fewer people who were more honest, more 
unswervingly principled and more selflessly generous in their contribution 
to the fight for independence and the building of a new Kenya than 
Murumbi. Why should he be allowed to suffer such humiliation?" he posed.

Veteran lawyer Pheroze Nowrojee, a member of the Murumbi Trust, which is 
striving to preserve his legacy, said the incursion illustrated the 
nation's collective habit of neglecting its heroes.

"The values for which Murumbi and the other figures who objected to the 
direction the nation took after independence are the same values we cry 
out for today. It is a slur on their memory that things like this should 
be allowed to happen."

Joseph Murumbi was Kenya's second Vice-President. He rose to prominence in 
the defining stage of the independence struggle following the wave of 
arrests that followed the announcement of a state of emergency by the 
colonial authorities on October 20, 1952. The arrests left him as the most 
visible leader of the political struggle for African majority rule and the 
end of colonialism, becoming acting secretary general of the main 
pro-reform political party.

He was instrumental in getting a legal defence for the Kapenguria six, the 
key political leaders incarcerated in Northern Kenya for their alleged 
role in agitating for independence.

After holding a series of ministerial positions following independence, he 
was appointed vice-president following the sidelining of Jaramogi Odinga, 
Kenya's first Vice-President in May 1966.

Murumbi himself resigned from the position only a year and a half later, 
embittered, by the assassination of his political mentor, the crusading 
left wing freedom fighter, Pio da Gama Pinto.

Speaking to The Sunday Standard this week, Alan Donovan, who for many 
years served as a key associate to Murumbi in their shared passion of art 
collection, explained that it had long been Murumbi's wish to be buried at 
the City Park cemetery, as near as possible to the spot where Pinto was 
interred.

A lack of space inside the cemetery forced Murumbi's friends to bury him 
just outside the fenced confines of the cemetery, less than ten metres 
from the spot where Pinto is buried.

Alan Donovan
Mr. Donovan and others were however unable to obtain planning permission 
for a new fence to be erected outside the cemetery where Murumbi was 
buried in 1990.

A flurry of letters to members of the new government, including Vice 
President Moody Awori and Justice and Constitutional Affairs minister 
Kiraitu Murungi expressing concern over the state of the grave site from 
the Murumbi Trust members have gone without reply.

Although the Local Government ministry has made moves in recent times to 
maintain the main cemetery which was previously wildly overgrown, nothing 
has been done about the two graves right outside the cemetery's un-gated 
entrance.

A tour of the cemetery by The Sunday Standard, however, revealed the 
former Vice President's final resting place to be a troublingly desolate 
patchwork, almost embarrassingly Spartan in its drabness.

In place of the dignified brass plaques and marble head stones that had 
once marked the spot, huge, mildewed, oblong-shaped boulders lay atop the 
two graves, ringed by towering bougainvillea trees with overhanging 
tendrils snaking their way to the ground.

There was no visitor to the close to one hundred graves at the site. A 
lone worker at one corner of the grounds said she had no idea who was 
interr

[Goanet]NEWS: Capturing the essence of the Goan culture

2005-05-01 Thread Frederick Noronha (FN)
http://www.hindu.com/2005/04/30/stories/2005043017690300.htm
Capturing the essence of the Goan culture
Staff Reporter
Writer Shashi Deshpande said: `The book shows us the life beyond the pictures 
presented to us as Goa.'

BANGALORE: A reading of Maria Aurora Couto's book "Goa: A daughter's story" 
here on Friday was an occasion for the city's bibliophiles to dwell deep into 
literary territory.

Their journey was assisted amply by the likes of Girish Karnad, playwright, and 
Shashi Deshpande, writer.

Organised by the Karnataka Goan Association, the book reading started off with 
Mr. Karnad and Ms. Deshpande giving an introduction of the book and its author.

They both began by remembering the days they had spent in the company of the 
author.

Keeping in mind the context of the book, Mr. Karnad began by stating that 
everyone has to face history as it is. It was sad, he said, that in India 
history is always portrayed as nothing but a grievance.

Ms. Deshpande referred the book as the third face of the author, the first two 
being Maria Aurora and the other Maria Aurora Couto.

She said that the book was in a way the biography of the author herself. "The 
book shows us the life beyond the pictures presented to us as Goa," she said.

In her speech, the author talked about her anger against the stereotypes, the 
ignorance and misinterpretation of all that was Goa.

"This book is the whole experience of my life, I have tried to capture the 
essence of Goan culture here," she said.

"The women of Goa are confident. I would have liked to talk more about them in 
my book but could not," she said.

The event also focussed on the idea of a Hindu Goa and Christian Goa with 
related readings from the book.



[Goanet]Goanet launches new website

2005-05-01 Thread Herman Carneiro
Dear Friends of Goanet,

With the Goan community's active participation on Goanet driving the dialogue 
amongst Goans in Goa and the Diaspora, it gives me great pleasure to announce 
that Goanet has a new and improved website at www.goanet.org.

At the outset, our main objective was to provide our members with a user 
friendly interface to access the mailing list archives.  As the project 
developed it took on a life of its own.  The website now provides some novel 
features.

WEBSITE FEATURES

1.  News

You can now access the latest news from Goanet on our website.

2.  Goanet Reader

This features interesting essays submitted by a variety of authors.

3.  Mailing lists

This section features a user friendly way to subscribe to the Goanet mailing 
lists.  You can also change your membership preferences here. Also included in 
this section is access to the popular Goanet archives dating back to 1999.

4.  Tutorials

For those of us who have trouble posting to Goanet in plain text, we have a 
simple tutorial to walk you through the process.

5.  Contact Us

This section provides all our contact information.

6.  Announcements

This feature provides a simple method for us to communicate information to our 
website visitors.

7.  Support Goanet

Goanet is a non-profit volunteer-driven organization that provides a valuable 
public service.  We rely on your support to provide these services. This 
section provides a number of ways in which you can support Goanet.

8.  Polls

We hope to ask your opinion on some sizzling topics.

9.  Events Calendar

Goanet is a unique platform for communication worldwide. We hope to provide 
Goans around the world with a list of events both in their countries and 
abroad. Please feel free to submit events in your corner of the world.

10.  Aichea Dissak Chintop (Thought for the Day)

Dominic Fernandes' thoughtful one-liners are featured in this section.

As you can see, our website is filled with interesting and useful 
information.  And, this is just the start. We plan to develop our website 
further to provide some innovative tools.  Having said this, we will not 
neglect our mailing lists.  We will develop our website and mailing lists to 
compliment each other. We hope that our members will provide direction to us 
through their continued feedback.

We'd like to thank the Goanet community for its support over the last 10 
years. Goanet owes its success to you. Special thanks go to our volunteers for 
their outstanding public service: Fred Noronha, Viviana Coelho, Bosco D'Mello, 
and new volunteers Michelle D'Souza and Christina Pinto.

Enjoy the website!

Best wishes,

Herman Carneiro
Founder, Goanet



Re: [Goanet] Cafeteria Catholics

2005-05-01 Thread Santosh Helekar
--- "Fr. Ivo Da C. Souza" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>
>Homosexuality is against human nature. Human being is
>complete in male and female. Biologically,
>psychologically, spiritually, emotionally we
>experience this truth based on human nature itself,
>not on "antiquated religious dogma". Marriage reveals
>the truth of this tenet. Nobody can change the fact.
>

The above post makes a lot of categorical assertions
without providing any scientific or sociological
justification to support them. It is very obvious that
this is a strongly held religious view, despite claims
to the contrary. Some of the assertions are not even
internally consistent within the same religious
doctrine. For instance, nobody would deny that
enforced celibacy is not consistent with human nature,
and yet its practice is regarded with such high esteem
by the adherents of this doctrine. If "marriage
reveals the truth" of the true human nature, then why
are people who choose to remain unmarried for life
considered to be sick?

In any case, I would like to emphatically state that
there is absolutely no scientific, clinical or
sociological basis for any of the assertions made in
the above post. Indeed, these assertions go against
the public service recommendations of all major
scientific and medical organizations, as well as
against the practices of most international
humanitarian agencies, including some religious ones.

This is indeed a clear example of how strict adherence
to religious dogma brings one in conflict with
science, as well as with humanitarian ethics developed
by painstaking scientific and sociological research.

I provide below some public service FAQs from the
American Psychological Association, which directly
refute the various claims made in the above-referenced
post.

http://www.apa.org/pubinfo/answers.html

IS HOMOSEXUALITY A MENTAL ILLNESS OR EMOTIONAL
PROBLEM?
No. Psychologists, psychiatrists and other mental
health professionals agree that homosexuality is not
an illness, mental disorder or an emotional problem.
Over 35 years of objective, well-designed scientific
research has shown that homosexuality, in and itself,
is not associated with mental disorders or emotional
or social problems. Homosexuality was once thought to
be a mental illness because mental health
professionals and society had biased information. In
the past the studies of gay, lesbian and bisexual
people involved only those in therapy, thus biasing
the resulting conclusions. When researchers examined
data about these people who were not in therapy, the
idea that homosexuality was a mental illness was
quickly found to be untrue.

In 1973 the American Psychiatric Association confirmed
the importance of the new, better designed research
and removed homosexuality from the official manual
that lists mental and emotional disorders. Two years
later, the American Psychological Association passed a
resolution supporting the removal. For more than 25
years, both associations have urged all mental health
professionals to help dispel the stigma of mental
illness that some people still associate with
homosexual orientation.

CAN THERAPY CHANGE SEXUAL ORIENTATION?
No. Even though most homosexuals live successful,
happy lives, some homosexual or bisexual people may
seek to change their sexual orientation through
therapy, sometimes pressured by the influence of
family members or religious groups to try and do so.
The reality is that homosexuality is not an illness.
It does not require treatment and is not changeable.

However, not all gay, lesbian, and bisexual people who
seek assistance from a mental health professional want
to change their sexual orientation. Gay, lesbian, and
bisexual people may seek psychological help with the
coming out process or for strategies to deal with
prejudice, but most go into therapy for the same
reasons and life issues that bring straight people to
mental health professionals.

CAN LESBIANS, GAY MEN, AND BISEXUALS BE GOOD PARENTS?
Yes. Studies comparing groups of children raised by
homosexual and by heterosexual parents find no
developmental differences between the two groups of
children in four critical areas: their intelligence,
psychological adjustment, social adjustment, and
popularity with friends. It is also important to
realize that a parent's sexual orientation does not
dictate his or her children's.

Another myth about homosexuality is the mistaken
belief that gay men have more of a tendency than
heterosexual men to sexually molest children. There is
no evidence to suggest that homosexuals are more
likely than heterosexuals to molest children.

WHY IS IT IMPORTANT FOR SOCIETY TO BE BETTER EDUCATED
ABOUT HOMOSEXUALITY?
Educating all people about sexual orientation and
homosexuality is likely to diminish anti-gay
prejudice. Accurate information about homosexuality is
especially important to young people who are first
discovering and seeking to understand their
sexuality—whether homosexual, bisexual, or
heterosexual. Fears t

[Goanet]Humanity, homosexuality and priesthood

2005-05-01 Thread Kevin Saldanha
I'm surprised to read that you consider homosexuality to be a 'deviation 
from the norm'! What exactly do you mean by this?

IMHO, every biological population is made up of a bell curve of 
individuals, 95% of which will lie within what we consider homogenous 
and therefore 'normal' for that population but the 5% (2.5% at each end) 
will be CONSIDERED deviants from that normal population BUT ARE STILL 
VERY MUCH A PART OF A NATURAL BIOLOGICAL POPULATION.  This is where the 
world's physically identifiable but mentally homosexual population ends 
up (the physical hermaphrodites occupying the very 0.5% tips of the 
tails of the curve).

Therefore, since the time humankind evolved from the common primate 
ancestor, there have been a small percentage (variously quoted between 5 
and 10 percent) that have fallen into this grey area wrt their sexual 
orientation.  It is this group that has been denied their human rights 
in various arenas most recently, their right to profess, in public, 
their committment to each other.

To hear learned (scientific, medical or theological) people condemn 
homosexuality as depraved, sinful, aberrant or an abomination is an 
exposure of their ignorance of some of the most gentle, caring and 
loving individuals I have ever had the pleasure of meeting.

Having said that, the incidence of homosexuality in the priesthood is 
much higher than 4:1000.  What do you think happened to all those men 
who were not interested in getting married in the 'good old days'?  Were 
they squirreled away in monastaries and encouraged to take vows of 
celibacy?  Why do you think there is a dearth of vocations from 
countries where alternative lifestyles are accepted?  Why are most 
vocations these days from countries where religious fervour and fear of 
divine retribution are the highest?  Religious life is an honourable 
answer inculcating the need for celibacy.

Kevin Saldanha



Re: [Goanet]Jamboulam seeds

2005-05-01 Thread Aloysius D'Souza
Hi Joseph,

What is this mixture used for?

Cheers

Aloysius 


- Original Message - 
From: "joseph fernandes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2005 2:31 PM
Subject: [Goanet]Jamboulam seeds


| 
| Jambul seed powder (Vaccum dried and spray dried)
| fortified with Chromium Picolinate (from Brewers
| Yeast) and Two natural and most potent Herbs- Garcinia
| cambogia and Ginseng) , 
| can be obtained from Mr Bennie Dsouza (Food
| Technologist)
| Tel 022-28478150  (Mobile) 9819477847   - Mumbai, 
| India.
| 
| Email : [EMAIL PROTECTED]
| 
| He has his factory at Sawantwadi (Maharashtra) near
| Goa.
| 
| 
| Price was Rs75/-for 100 gm packet.
| 
| Anyone interested may write to Mr Bennie on his
| aforesaid email address.
| 
| Joseph Fernandes
|  Mumbai  India




Re: [Goanet]Re: Cafeteria Catholics

2005-05-01 Thread Mervyn Lobo
"Fr. Ivo Da C. Souza" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I do  not deny the facts. I have affirmed that
> homosexuality is wrong. Yet the 
> priests have to be helped. The problem boils down to
> what I have said: Let us do something for them...


Fr. Ivo da C.Souza,
Parishioners have been doing their level best to help
these priests. At first they were not reporting the
paedophiles to the civic authorities but, instead,
reporting them to the church authorities in the hopes
that the church would take the proper action. 

Instead of doing the right thing, the church decided
not to take any action. They still follow this course
of action, and I am talking about at the highest level
of authority. 

It's only after victims started suing the paedophiles
that the church authorities started to take notice.
They took notice only after some parishes had to sell
ALL their land and buildings in order to pay for the
damages. Here in Toronto, almost every other week,
there is a second collection for "the Bishops needs."
"The Bishops needs" is usually code for payments to
abuse victims. There used to be a time when the second
collection was to finance the missionaries. Now it is
used to finance those who have left the church.

So, in short, I agree with you, we need to do
something to help these priests. We could start with
the church admitting that it has a problem. Then it
has to weed out these paedophiles.

Mervyn3.0




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Re: [Goanet]Reviews of a violin event in Goa

2005-05-01 Thread Gabriel de Figueiredo
 --- Rui Lobo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 
> We tried to
> make the prizes attractive
> enough to draw the best talent in violin -- Rs.
> 30,000, Rs. 10,000 and Rs.
> 5,000 for the 1st, 2nd and 3rd prize respectively. 
> This allotment of prize
> money drew some questions too.  A few felt that
> there was too much
> difference between the 1st and 2nd prize.  In most
> of the famous
> competitions the world over the winner takes all and
> the competition is
> known by the value of its 1st prize. 

Hi Rui,

I was very pleased to hear about the above.  

The prize money is quite generous.  Our own local
under-18 concerto competition (held annually in
August, which attracts competitors from all over the
state of Victoria) gives AUD400 (circa Rs 14,000) to
the 1st and AUD50 (circa Rs 1,800) to the five
runners-up. The six finalists selected at a private
audition, play against each other at the finals with
orchestral accompaniment.  The instrumentalists range
from flute to the cello, so there is quite a variance
at the finals.  As you say, everyone remembers the
winner, and that is what attracts the competitors. 

As an aside, we had a concert yesterday at the Preston
Town Hall, with a very young soloist (Sally Cooper)
playing the Brahms violin concerto (1st movement)
followed by Saint-Saens Introduction & Rondo
Capriccioso.  She drew a record crowd for our first
concert of the year, especially teenagers.  And this
unpretentious young lady of Eurasian descent gave an
impromptu recital for four "grumpy old men" backstage
after the concert, including yours truly! 

Our next concert is in July, with another young set of
soloists playing a Double concerto.

Cheers,

Gabriel de Figueiredo.
Melbourne - Australia. 

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Re: [Goanet]Salmona Spring: New Open Update To Governor Of Goa-1.

2005-05-01 Thread Gabriel de Figueiredo
 --- muriel & mario <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 
> Date: 29th April'2005
> 
> To The Governor of Goa,
> Panaji.  Goa.
> 
> Your excellency,
> 
> I am forced to resume our updates on the Salmona
> Spring, because now it is a 
> matter of life and death.  There is a threat to my
> safety and that of my 
> family, house and property.

Am seriously concerned.  I hope members of this forum
closest to Muriel volunteer to take upon themselves
the responsibility to enquire and provide a degree of
protection to the fighter for righteousness. 

Gabriel de Figueiredo.
Melbourne - Australia.

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RE: [Goanet]Re: Cafeteria Catholics

2005-05-01 Thread Nasci Caldeira
Hi all,
Well said, Fr. Ivo;
Santosh Helekar, please take note!
We as a society do not condemn these aberrations, but we do not accept these 
as normal; hence the need to help these sick persons. This type of help 
should not be construed as acceptance of something against the 'human 
nature/order', but rather 'sympathetic, compassionate help' just as with 
other illnesses.

It is the 'order of nature'; like Fr Ivo says; it's not antiquated religious 
dogma; religion is only accepting the truth! For heaven's sake, Santosh, you 
and scientists and agnostics like you have a lot to learn, in this field. 
Santosh, I think you yourself is in dire need of neuro surgery; better this 
way then banging your 'science only' saturated head on a rock. Science does 
not and cannot disprove what Fr Ivo and countless others have said before. 
Your education is seriously flawed!

Nasci Caldeira
Melbourne.

From: "Fr. Ivo Da C. Souza" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [Goanet]Re: Cafeteria Catholics
Date: Sun, 01 May 2005 13:39:46 -0400
Homosexuality is against human nature. Human being is complete in male and
female. Biologically, psychologically, spiritually, emotionally we 
experience
this truth based on human nature itself, not on "antiquated religious 
dogma".
Marriage reveals the truth of this tenet. Nobody can change the fact. When
there is an aberration in this light, we have to admit that it is an
aberration. The fact that some scientists have been "homosexuals" and yet
contributed to the progress of science, technology and society does not 
dilute
the fact nor legitimize it. There are alcoholics, who in fact consider
alcoholism a sickness, yet they have to struggle against this "disease" and
are contributing to the progress of the society--though we have to accept 
that
alcoholism hampers their human growth to a great extent. This comparison 
has
to be taken as a comparison only--namely, a sick person may be an 
intellectual
genius, yet he does not cease to be psychologically 'sick', if he is a
homosexual or an alcoholic...

Homosexuality is anti-society, anti-marriage, anti-family... There cannot
be "gay marriages", it is a contradiction in terms. Our anatomy vouches for
it. The family needs a father and a mother. Children and young people need 
a
Papa and a Mama, not two papas, or two mamas...
This is not "religious dogma", it is order of nature, which nobody can 
change.
The fact that homosexuality exists among leaders and intellectuals does not
change the natural order. It is an aberration, it is abnormality. Our 
society
is suffering already from the consequences of all kinds of aberrations, one 
of
these is homosexual, 'same-sex' union... Enough is enough...
Let us teach our young people the 'facts of life' in a correct way, let us
help those who have this craze, with love and compassion, without 
condemning
them, but rejecting homosexuality...

Ivo da C.Souza




Re: Re: [Goanet]Some Reasons for N ature’s Fury - Nandkumar Kamat

2005-05-01 Thread Gabriel de Figueiredo
Thanks for the correction, Gabe. 
  
--- Gabe Menezes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
 
> RESPONSE: Events took place in 1987. The stockmarket
> crash was a
> Worldwide event.
> 


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[Goanet]AICHEA DISSAK CHINTOP - May 2, 2005!

2005-05-01 Thread domnic fernandes
Sonvsar suropaien borlolo jednam tuji mont daduskaien borta ani tujem kalliz 
mogan.

(The world is full of beauty when your mind is filled with joy and when your 
heart is filled with love.)

Moi-mogan,
Domnic Fernandes
Anjuna/Dhahran, KSA
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[Goanet]Cafeteria - a brief response to Gilbert

2005-05-01 Thread gilbertlaw
Hi Santosh,
Once again we need to talk the same language.  I used YOUR definition and you 
changed it on me. Here is YOUR definition:

Santosh Helekar: 
A Fundamentalist Catholic, on the other hand, would follow all commandments and 
doctrines in letter and spirit without asking any questions. 

GL comments:
Following the the doctrine in spirit "means actions" . Otherwise one is 
following the doctrine only in letter ?perhaps like the fanatics.
Regards

Santosh
I maintain that the person I describe is a fundamentalist Catholic. If you are 
claiming that a person becomes a saint simply by virtue of his/her beliefs then 
I disagree completely with such a claim.  From an objective standpoint one can 
only be regarded as a saint based on one's actions, not beliefs. One is a saint 
only if one devotes one's life to the good of humanity.

--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
>The person you describe below is not a fundamentalist Catholic. He/She is a 
>true practicing Catholic like Mother Teresa. The person is a Saint! 
>




Re: [Goanet]Goanet launches new website

2005-05-01 Thread Eustaquio Santimano
Hi Goanet  Admin & Herman,
Congratulations on the launch of the website.  Keep the information  
flowing.

Best wishes
Eustaquio
On Mon, 02 May 2005 11:29:31 +0800, Herman Carneiro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>  
wrote:

Dear Friends of Goanet,
With the Goan community's active participation on Goanet driving the  
dialogue
amongst Goans in Goa and the Diaspora, it gives me great pleasure to  
announce
that Goanet has a new and improved website at www.goanet.org.

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[Goanet]A promenade that attracts-Panjim

2005-05-01 Thread carlos6143
A promenade that attracts - Anil Sastry
http://www.hindu.com/2005/05/02/stories/2005050204092000.htm
PANAJI: It was conceptualised to carpet the capital city of this 
"Paradise on the Earth" a-la Cannes on the eve of the 35th 
International Film Festival of India (IFFI) â Goa. And now, this 
one-and-a half-km promenade alongside the river Mandovi has become the 
most sought-after place for tourists and locals alike.

Stretching from Kala Academy to the Ferry Point along side the 
Children's Park and the Mandovi, the promenade is beautifully done with 
concrete paves.

A creation of the former Chief Minister, Manohar Parrikar, the 
promenade also has a spacious corner opposite the Old Goa Medical 
College (GMC) hosting various cultural programmes on special occasions. 
The promenade in its new attire provides a pleasant venue for evening 
walkers â tourists and Panjimites alike. As the four-lane road 
alongside the promenade buzzes with speeding vehicles and the designer 
lights lit up during nightfall, the breeze on this long stretch along 
the quiet Mandovi provides pedestrians a cool freshness.

The Miramar Beach besides the Mandovi estuary is only a kilometre away. 
There are numerous stalls selling a variety of eatables from Pani 
Pooris to Grilled Chicken. The beach was also the venue for the beach 
screening of blockbusters during the IFFI.

Added to all these attractions, there now comes the wine festival â the 
Grape Escape â early this month. A wide array of films , and a wide 
variety of food and wines would surely provide a distinct experience to 
one and all.

--
Regards,
Carlos



[Goanet]Update on Seabird Air Station

2005-05-01 Thread Philip Thomas
The Dec 20, 2004 issue of INDIA TODAY had an article on Seabird, Karwar
titled "Power Base". This base, the Navy's fourth and being constructed in
phases, is intended to "eventually displace the congested Mumbai naval base"
(at present its No 1 base).  The first phase (representing 25% of the total
project) and begun in earnest only in 1999 after some false starts, is due
to be completed in 2006.

The second phase which is supposed to follow depending on financial
clearances  will span a decade. Its main features are an armament depot and
a missile storage and loading facility. But it also includes plans for a
naval air station for helicopters. In an interview in HERALD last month , a
vice admiral mentioned that the length of ths airfield would be 6000 feet.

Parenthetically, this probably makes it too small for  most fixed wing
aircraft and pretty big for helicopters.  But then airport planning may not
be the Navy's forte! It is said that novice pilots require full length
airfields to develop confidence (perhaps like novice car drivers who start
their lessons in empty football fields).

The Navy may also be assuming that Dabolim will be always unde its control
so nothing big needs to be planned for Seabird where the terrain too is
forbidding from an aviation standpoint. Let us hope that through goanet's
concerted efforts we can disabuse them of this notion pronto.

It seems that a couple of people with possibly Goan backgrounds of all
things were instrumenal in kick starting the Seabird project. These are
Admiral Oscar Stanley Dawson as Navy Chief in 1982 and George Fernandes as
Defence Mnister in 1997/8.

In another footnote, INDIA TODAY Nov 6, 2004, carries an article about the
U.S. decision to go ahead with the sale of eight P-3C long range maritime
patrol/strike aircraft to Pakistan  which potentially undermines the
country's naval edge including from Seabird Karwar! The entire western
seaboard (including Mumbai and Goa) can be brought within this type of
plane's sights.



[Goanet]Going flat out to share flats - "Wanted a Goan, Mangalorean, vegetarian,........"

2005-05-01 Thread Goa's Pride www.goa-world.com
Going flat out to share flats
BY SHALINI SETH (SPECIAL REPORT)/Khaleej Times 

1 May 2005 

DUBAI— “Wanted a Goan, Mangalorean, vegetarian, Hindu, non-smoking bachelor.” 
You could be forgiven for thinking that this is a matrimonial classified, 
listing ideal qualifications for a groom. The fact is, it is about sharing, 
but only a flat, with kitchen and separate bath thrown in if you are lucky. 

Sharing a house, between two families, a few singles, one single and a family 
is all the norm today, where rents are rising rather disproportionately in 
comparison with the paying capacity.

What is aggravating the rise is the fact that people are augmenting their 
income by letting out one or two rooms from their company or rental 
accommodation.

Until recently, landlords did not increase rent during the first two years of 
a tenant’s occupancy, and only 10-15 per cent annually after that. But now it 
is common for landlords to increase rents by as much as 60-70 per cent before 
the end of the first year’s contract.

“Rents have gone from Dh33,000 last year to 60,000 this year. You tell me if 
that is fair!” asks Shahzaad Mehta, a resident of Dubai for the last 23 years 
who is finding herself unable to cope with the rent rise and maintain her 
standard of living.

“I share my house, kitchen and all facilities so I can afford it,” Mehta says. 

Her requirements are simple. “The room with  the attached bath is yours. We 
never step in. You can use the kitchen and all our utensils. But no late night 
guests and definitely no visitors, of either sex who stay over.” In turn she 
tells you that she smokes, has a male visitor who leaves by 9.30pm and that 
she does not like to cook. “You should know all this if you want to share a 
house,” she clarifies. 

She plans to charge Dh2,000 for the single room with attached bath and use of 
kitchen in Bur Dubai area. If you go directly to the landlord it is possible 
to get a studio in that much money even today. But reports indicate that 
people often rent larger houses to supplement their income.

There are cases of expats who have rented a three bedroom apartment, put in an 
ad in the classified and rented out two rooms at a premium. In the end, they 
end up paying no rent themselves and in fact, making some money.   “We have 
company accommodation of two bedrooms and we are only likely to use one, so we 
are renting out the other,” says an expat who has advertised to charge Dh2,500 
for a room in the old Pakistani Consulate area. 

Sharing between equals creates its own permutations and combinations. Says 
Wong Wing, a single Malaysian who is sharing a house with an Indian single 
woman after getting fed up of exploitative rates and rules, “I could not 
imagine living in a boys’ hostel-like space some 10 years after my graduation 
and in any case, I would rather share rent equally than fund someone’s rent.

So when this common friend told me that an Indian girl is looking for a room, 
I jumped at the offer. I have the lease and I share the amount equally with 
her. We both mind our own business and live happily.” But in this case, not 
ever after. 

Matchmaking is still stringent. A look at the classifieds will tell you: 
Indian ladies preferably with afternoon and night shifts; decent Tamilian 
family; Europeans preferred; decent English speaking bachelor; non-cooking 
South Indian spinster only; Keralite couple on a visit visa; Filipino families 
only.

Says Sarmad Khan, a Pakistani media executive who is looking for a place in 
Dubai or Sharjah after being unceremoniously evicted from his previous 
one, “The discrimination is unbelievable. They are so specific about the kind 
of person they want to share the house with, that my chances are almost nil.”

>From the legal angle however, there is no anti-discrimination, all men and 
women are equal under the law that operates in this part of the world. So you 
can advertise to share a house with someone who likes to eat what you do and 
has similar tastes in computer games as well. Is sharing allowed?

For many, sharing accommodation is a genuine sharing of expenses. Families 
even cook together. Sometimes companies offer shared accommodation for a few 
years before providing independent housing.

Says Hetal Jain, an expat who together with her husband shared a two bedroom 
apartment with another family for a year.

“It was like living back home in a joint family and that experience actually 
helped us cope.” 

Sharing also creates special kind of kitchen mates. Indeed if sharing a 
kitchen means eating the same food, it could be a problem if your religion or 
community bans certain foods. It is possible that you would be asked to cook 
non-veg food only when the wife is not there, and share it with the husband! 
And you adjust in various ways.

Says Jayant Jain, Hetal’s husband who lived in the house with the family for 
six months after she had gone home, “Till both our wives were there, they did 
all the cooking and

[Goanet]Rumsfeld offered to free Saddam: Report

2005-05-01 Thread carlos6143
Rumsfeld offered to free Saddam: Report
http://in.rediff.com/news/2005/may/01iraq.htm
May 01, 2005 15:28 IST
United States Secretary of Defence, Donald Rumsfeld, paid a secret 
visit to former Iraqi president Saddam Hussein and offered him freedom 
and possible return to public life if he?made a televised request to 
armed groups for a ceasefire with allied forces, a media report said.

Saddam promptly rejected the offer, Ynetnews reported quoting 
London-based Al-Quds Al-Arabi daily.

Complete Coverage: Gulf War II
Rumsfeld made the offer when he visited?Iraq about two weeks ago and 
only a few Iraqi officials in Jordan knew of it, the Arab daily 
reported.

Two weeks ago, Britain's Telegraph had reported that Iraqi gunmen were 
offered a "deal" to halt all attacks in return for a reduced sentence 
for Saddam, who is likely to be sentenced to death.
--
Regards,
Carlos




[Goanet]SALT (Mitt)

2005-05-01 Thread joseph fernandes

Domnic

Another alternative is to give, at the end of every
article, in the future (from the antique shelf), the
dates of the articles previously published,along with
the header (Zamblam, Caju, Mangoes etc) so that
readers can get browse/print the same from Goanet
archives.

Joseph Fernandes
Mumbai India

==
>  On 01May, Brian wrote:
>
> HI DOM, WHY DON'T YOU COMPILE A SMALL
> ENCYCLOPAEDIA ON THE TOPICS YOU 
> WRITE?

i TELL YOU, IT WOULD BE A GREAT BESTSELLER SPECIALLY
AMONG GOANS IN UK, 
USA, 
CANADA, AUSTRALIA ETC.


Yahoo! India Matrimony: Find your life partner online
Go to: http://yahoo.shaadi.com/india-matrimony



Re: [Goanet]Cafeteria - a brief response to Gilbert

2005-05-01 Thread Santosh Helekar
--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Hi Santosh,
> Once again we need to talk the same language.  I
> used YOUR definition and you changed it on me. Here
> is YOUR definition:
> 

Sorry, Gilbert. That is simply not true. I think I
have made myself amply clear. So I will stop this
thread with you from my end. You can carry on if you
like.

Cheers,

Santosh



[Goanet]Update on Tourism Competition

2005-05-01 Thread Philip Thomas
http://www.business-standard.com/common/storypage.php?hpFlag=Y&chklogin=N&au
tono=187710&leftnm=lmnu4&lselect=0&leftindx=4

Kerala to usher in Tourism South

A Kerala Government initiative

Our Regional Bureau / Chennai May 02, 2005 [Business Standard]



In 2003 Kerala was just behind Goa with 295K foreign tourists (vs 315K). The
2004 figure of 343K represents a nearly 15% increase in one year. Anybody
know what Goa achieved in the same period? Hope it is a creditable
performance.



[Goanet]More than sun and beaches

2005-05-01 Thread Goa's Pride www.goa-world.com
More than sun and beaches Shwetal Kamalapurkar 

Maria Aurora Counto’s Goa - A daughter’s story, made for some interesting book-
reading in the City recently. 

  The moonlight streamed through the leaves of the coconut palm, the cool 
breeze danced to vibrant Portuguese music at the Opus on Friday night. 

It was an evening in Bangalore where Goa was brought alive by none other than 
the fun-loving Goans themselves. 

The evening, however, was not a showcase of ‘beaches and booze’ dimension of 
Goa. It brought to the forefront intellectuals and literary icons who had 
gathered to hear Maria Aurora Couto speak about Goa and her well-acclaimed 
book, Goa – A daughter’s story. 

A different Goa 

The book reading and discussion was organised by the Karnataka Goan 
Association (KGA) as part of its cultural agenda. Talking at the event, 
Francisco Saldhana, president KGA, expressed his delight at having an 
opportunity to show Goa in a different light through Maria’s book. 

The event was truly star-studded with Girish Karnad moderating the reading and 
discussions and Shashi Deshpande introducing Aurora and her book. 

Also, present at the occasion, were many of Aurora’s childhood friends whose 
pride and delight at her book being an international bestseller was obvious. 

In his introduction to the book and the author, Karnad said, “The book is a 
strong answer to the notion of Hindutva, which is a manufactured identity.” 

Karnad, who has known Aurora ever since school, also traces his roots to Goa 
and was pleased to have a book about the history of Goa, that was scholarly 
and yet, personal. 

Introducing Aurora, Shashi said that one could see “the real Aurora in this 
book.” She said that there was a personal quality in the book and yet, it was 
not self-indulgent. 

Shashi and Aurora have been classmates in school at Dharwad, where both spent 
their formative years. 

Sitting under the thatched roof with multi-coloured lights flashing on the 
dais, a composed and elegant Aurora spoke about the Goa behind the picture 
postcards and the Bollywood projection. 

Her intense involvement in the book and passionate love for understanding the 
history of Goa were evident. The indepth research and fact finding involved in 
making the book happen spoke for itself, while she answered questions with the 
expertise of one who is well read. Talking about the book, she said that it 
was “her personal search for the Goan identity within the larger Indian 
identity” and that, through this book, she has tried to “comprehend the 
complex historical background of Goa.” 

She was emphatic as she said that the Goan image projected was “stereotype” 
and that there was a lot more to the place than was shown. 

Varied influences 

Her book draws up the influences that have touched all Goans alike – the Luso-
Indian culture; conversion and Inquisition; political and cultural changes in 
Europe; folk traditions, music and the Konkani language; freedom and 
integration with India. All of these, she says “have shaped Goa.” 

To her, Goa is a land of “deep spirituality, rivers, fields, coconut 
plantations, beautiful landscape” et al. The greenery and environment of Goa 
is the one thing that she cant do without. “Village Goa is a garden,” she 
says. 

To most present at the occasion, the following lines sum up the book, the idea 
behind it, the author’s love for it and almost every conceivable question 
about the book, “We have our language. We have our state. We now have to 
recover our souls.” 

(Deccan Herald)

- Forwarded by http://www.goa-world.com


YGC BAHRAIN MAY QUEEN BALL 
Date: 05-05-05Organized by: Young Goans Club, Bahrain 
Venue: Palace Inn Hotel  Highlights: The YGC May Queen Contest 

ANNUAL MAY QUEEN BALL
Date: 05-05-05Organized by Goan Welfare Associate(GWA), Qatar
Venue: The Diplomatic Club. Highlights: Crowning of the May Queen.

UPCOMING EVENT IN GOA:
FRUIT FEST 2005   http://www.goa-world.com/goa/fruitfest/



Re: [Goanet] Cafeteria Catholics - Nasci

2005-05-01 Thread Santosh Helekar
--- Nasci Caldeira <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>Santosh, I think you yourself is in dire need of
>neuro surgery; better this way then banging your
>'science only' saturated head on a rock. Science does

>not and cannot disprove what Fr Ivo and countless
>others have said before. 
>

Unfortunately, there is absolutely no scientific basis
for anything that Fr. Ivo has said about
homosexuality. Please see my response to his post, and
please don't abuse me. I am only trying to provide you
with information regarding the current scientific
understanding of homosexuality. Many people would
realize that it is in serious conflict with the
religious information provided by Fr. Ivo. 

Cheers,

Santosh



[Goanet]India's Iranian cafes fading out -- BBC

2005-05-01 Thread Bosco D'Mello
India's Iranian cafes fading out 

By Jayshree Bajoria 
BBC News, Mumbai  

The Iranian cafes in the western Indian city of Mumbai (formerly Bombay) have 
long stood out from other city eateries - but their days could be numbered.

With their red and white checked tablecloths, straight backed wooden chairs 
and the aroma of freshly baked bread and sweet cake, the cafes are an 
indelible part of Mumbai's cosmopolitan heritage.

But all this may well become a thing of the past. 

Having withstood a century of change, the cafes are feeling the heat in 
Mumbai's fiercely competitive food market.

Many of the so-called Irani cafes are getting a complete makeover and becoming 
pubs or restaurants. Others are simply shutting up shop.

Exotic confectionery 

Regular customers swear by brun maska (bread and butter) and paani kam chai (a 
special Iranian tea) - regulation Irani cafe fare.

Jayant Kamat is one of them. 

He has been visiting the 101-year-old Kyani cafe in south Mumbai since he was 
in school. "Even though it's hot and sweaty here and there's a lot of din, this
is my favourite place. It is homely, you can sit here for hours. The ambience 
and prices have remained the same over years,'' says Mr Kamat.

Vanita Rodrigues, another regular patron, echoes the sentiment. 

"The food is fresh, delicious and unique," she says. 

But nice prices and exotic confectionery don't seem to be saving the day for 
these cafes.

Read the rest of this article at :

Story from BBC NEWS:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/go/pr/fr/-/2/hi/south_asia/4485523.stm



[Goanet]Goa the cancer capital of India

2005-05-01 Thread Bosco D'Mello
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/articleshow/1094297.cms

Goa the cancer capital of India

PTI[ SUNDAY, MAY 01, 2005 12:15:04 PM ]
 
PANAJI: Late marriage and delayed child-bearing for women and substantial 
intake of red meat and alcohol have led to giving Goa with the highest number 
of cancer patients per lakh in the country, according to a doctor.

"Goa has an average of 1000 cancer patients every year, or 70 cases per lakh 
population, which is much higher than the national average of 50 cases per 
lakh.

Among these patients, the prevalence of breast cancer is very high, almost 35 
cases per lakh, which is higher than the four metros," says Shekhar Salkar, 
general secretary of National Organisation for Tobacco Eradication and a 
member of Indian Society for Oncologists.

"The rate at which cases are appearing puts it at 200 case of breast cancer 
per 7 lakh population which is a very high figure. If we are not careful, the 
figure could touch western standards," he says.

"Goa is like mini-America in terms of lifestyle. Risk factors for breast 
cancer include late marriage, diet and late child-bearing, all of which are 
results of a westernised lifestyle.

Since incomes are much higher than the rest of the country ... 

...and literacy level is also high, it leads to women delaying marriage and 
hence child-bearing.

"More than 40 percent of females in the age group of 40-45 in Goa are 
unmarried," says Salkar, thus making them vulnerable to breast cancer.

"During the entire menstrual cycle, there is constant barrage of estrogen 
hormone on the breast tissue.

Unless it is curbed by the progesterone hormone, which is produced during 
child birth, there is a risk of cancer developing," he adds.

"The cancer institute in Chennai conducted a study which inferred that cancer 
was more prevalent among the middle and higher income groups rather than lower 
income and poorly educated groups.

However, since Goa does not have much of poverty, it lead to an affluent 
lifestyle that entails junk foods and alchohol as an integral part of daily 
routine," Salkar says.

The percentage of colon cancer in Goa too is higher than the national average, 
mainly due to the fact that red meat is consumed in more quantity ...

...by Goans than the rest of country, Salkar says.

"In places like UP and Bihar, the percentage of mouth or tongue cancer is 
higher but in Goa, breast cancer or stomach cancer due to high prevalence of 
alchohol is known to be more, he adds.

Stressing on the need for more awareness and education about the disease 
especially among women, he says the fairer sex is more instrumental not only 
in educating her own family but also implementing lifestyle changes. (ENDS)