[Goanet]Re: Vote bank politics to blame for Goa tragedy

2005-07-31 Thread Sachin Phadte
Re Carlos' query, namely "Does Dicarpale (where 11 people died) fall  under 
Navelim Constituency?"


I reside in Mumbai, my family having migrated from Goa some generations  
ago.  So I am not familiar with the area.  Can anyone else on Goanet  please 
respond?


Sachin Phadte

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[Goanet]AICHEA DISSAK CHINTOP - August 1, 2005!

2005-07-31 Thread domnic fernandes
Jivitachea gunnacho sozmut nhoi girestkai assop, podvi vo vhoddponnachem 
ginean.  Tem sogllem tum kitlem doieallponn ani mog dusreank dita ani kitlem 
tachem dhadosponn tuka mellta tacher assam.


(Quality of life doesn’t mean having wealth, power or superb intelligence.  
It is a matter of how much kindness and love you give to others and the joy 
you get out of it.)


Moi-mogan,
Domnic Fernandes
Anjuna/Dhahran, KSA

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Re: [Goanet]Re: [Goanet]Goan experiences Mumbaiites' spirit during monsoon fury (Herald)

2005-07-31 Thread Venantius J Pinto
Dear Cornel,
Think about it. Here is a young woman who has gone through so much and all
you have to ask her is what she means by stating that "is a  pure blooded
Goan." It certainly is a curious remark on her part, and I surmise that she
saw that as the strength that took her through those two days. Not some
genetic encoding. Others in all probabbility had similar pure blooded
reflections that strengthend them.

I often encountered students at JJ (School of Art as well as Applied Art),
or still encounter our neighbours in Chembur say "Amhi Shuddh Marathi." On
simialr thoughts, the one instance when a Goan in Ahemedabad got hacked in
the riots. He was the related to the current Bombay Salesian Provincial,
Ivo. We arrived in Ahmedabad and were picked up by an Army jeep full of
jawans and brought home. The first Goan who we encountered looked us
straight in the eyes, Fr. Ivo's mother, Valentine - his brother and myself
and simple said Ami Jawan. Vally and myself concluded that what our
Goeankar was stating simply was -- despite this calamity we are should stay
strong. We will greet each other again with this greeting, that has become
a jestful ritual when we meet this September in Goa.

Anyway Cornel, nothing against you but you stirred upo some old thoughts.

Curiously too,
Venantius J Pinto



>This is a genuine question to Sharon Mascarenhas as to what exactly she
>means by saying she "is a  pure blooded Goan." Is this term somehow linked
>to her MSc in nursing?
>Just curious.
>Cornel
>- Original Message -
>From: "Goanet News Service" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: 
>Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Sent: Saturday, July 30, 2005 8:12 PM
>Subject: [Goanet]Goan experiences Mumbaiites' spirit during monsoon fury
>(Herald)
>
>> http://oheraldo.in/node/2333?PHPSESSID=381496c85b7387264735b864578a2fd1
>> Goan experiences Mumbaiites' spirit during monsoon fury [Herald]
>> BY SHARON MASCARENHAS
>> This is the story of a pure blooded  Goan who faced the wrath of Mumbai
>> these
>> past three days.


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RE: [Goanet]Ridiculing Goans? (RRK) RIDICULOUS GOA???

2005-07-31 Thread Alfred de Tavares

From: gerry ferns <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: goanet@goanet.org
To: goanet@goanet.org
Subject: [Goanet]Ridiculing Goans? (RRK) RIDICULOUS GOA???
Date: Sun, 31 Jul 2005 05:38:38 -0700 (PDT)

   RIDICULOUS GOA?

Yes indeed some Goans need to be held up to unalloyed
ridicule.Some Goans take themseves too seriously and
are constantly heard to be the " I" , "ME" & "MYSELF"
variety, as if everything they hold forth on is
divinely revealed Scripture!!!


Add to that the pseudo-contrite "IMHO"
AdeT





[Goanet]Academy to observe `Konkani Day' on August 20

2005-07-31 Thread rene barreto


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Academy to observe `Konkani Day' on August 20 

29 Jul. The Hindu. The Karnataka Konkani Sahitya
Academy is celebrating `Konkani Day' on August 20 in
association with other organisations. August 20 is
celebrated every year to mark the inclusion of Konkani
in the Eighth Schedule of the Constitution. 
[Aug. 20 is also selected by UK’s Rene Barreto to mark
the World Goa Day] 
---

For  more details..  
Please visit Goan Voice UK 
at : http://www.goanvoice.org.uk/

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[Goanet]EMIGRATION: Sikhs rule in California's Central Valley

2005-07-31 Thread English Books Al-Ahsa S/R
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Hello Goanetters,

It can also be due to the English speaking culture of Goans. Unlike other
communities, they linger to their mother tongues, like the Sikhs, Keralites,
Tamils, but us Goans, adopt English as our lingua Franca, and very soon
learn other languages in their adoptive countries. As Bernardo says, they
melt in any community.  Very rarely using Konkani.

Cheers

Jerry Fernandes






[Goanet]Goanet News Bytes * July 31, 2005 * Can you help build Goanet? ... Paedophiles free... Mobor clean-up begins

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  services.

o Goa's paedophiles roam free: Herald does a review of the
  cases involved foreign paedophiles in Goa, mostly roaming
  free. Those facing charges or allegations include
  Zell Andreas (51 of 70806 Germany), Werner Wilf Ingo
  (Fairlight, NSW, Australia), Oscar Jonsson (Vetlanda,
  Sweden), Varley Andrew Raymond (88 Palace Road, London),
  Dominique Sabire (Chatilly, France).
o Private sector can help promote Goa as health tourism spot
  says Industries Minister Luizinho Faleiro. (NT)
o Two children killed in Chimbel compound wall collapse.
  Sayeed Sikandar Makandar (7) and Saba Sikandar Makandar (3)
  died on the spot when a compound wall around a public works
  department water tank at Chimbel collapsed on them. (NT)
o Sanjit Rodrigues has replaced N Suryanarayana as the
  commissioner of the City Corporation of Panjim. (NT)
  Herald titles the story: 'Sanjit back in the saddle'. 
o Churchill seeks funds from Delhi for flood, landslide
  victims (NT)
o Task force starts cleaning Mobor beach of oily substance.
  Deputy director tourism Pamela Mascarenhas, supervising the
  operation since Thursday, revealed the government has not
  decided on a spot to dump the oily substance. It is being
  wrapped in plastic sheets and stored on a higher level.(NT)
o Goa Bhavan in Mumbai had its ground floor damaged in floods.
o Goa police are ill-equipped "with lathis, .303 bore bolt
  action rifles and pot-bellied constables" writes
  Reuven Proenca, in Gomantak Times. Goa police continue
  to rely on the Lee-Enfield .303 calibre rifle, that
  finds its origins way back to 1895. (GT)

  JOURNALISTS, GOA AND TILAK: Journalists in Goa
  mark the death anniversary of Bal Gangadar Tilak
  with two events. A discussion on Aug 1 at 4 pm
  at Institute Menezes Braganza on 'Journalists Form
  Public Opinion or Follow Public Opinion?' and a
  7 pm felicitation of three senior journalists
  Vinayak Naik (editor, Goa Today), Benedict
  Coutinho (ex-PTI) and Valentino Fernandes
  (ex-Gomantak Times) at the Goa Union of Journalists
  office, Shramshakti Bhavan, Patto. See

http://puggy.symonds.net/pipermail/goajourno/2005-July/002216.html
  South Goa journos will mark the event with a lecture
  titled 'Journalism: Mission or Sensation' by
  Sunaparant editor Sandesh Prabhudesai at 3.30 pm. 

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FINE PRINT: Noted cancer specialist from Mumbai Dr L J (Luzito)
D'Souza has been invited to by Archbishop Ferrao to address
priests and religious on matters of "health care and faith, more
specifially on healings, cures and miracles". Aug 1, 4 pm, Lar.

CALANGUTE PANCHAYAT is to auction two cattle it "detained" for
over 10 days at its cattle pound. A male ox, white with brown
spots and seized opposite the Baga temple. An off-white cow
seized at Umtavaddo, near the football ground. says deputy
sarpanch Flory Dias.

CALANGUTE gram sabha (village council) voted to get all persons
renting out their flats to register the names of those staying
therein "to control anti-social illegal activities, crimes, law
and order

[Goanet]Mumbai under water pictures of 31st July afternoon

2005-07-31 Thread Ancy S. D'Souza Paladka
Hello friends,
Please find some of the pictures of the game play of rains in Mumbai.
These pictures are taken from Dadar, Parel, Kurla, Ghatkoper and Vikroli

Please click the link below for the pictures
http://ancy.fotopic.net/c635344.html

Dev Borem Korum,
Ancy S. D'Souza Paladka (Salu Soz)



[Goanet]Goanet Reader: Requiem for a Crocodile

2005-07-31 Thread Goanet Reader
Requiem for a Crocodile
Reflections on recent developments on the wildlife front in Goa

by V. M. de Malar
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

A young marsh crocodile died from a bullet wound early this week, in
Siolim. No one knows who shot it, or why; the corpse was simply found
lying in the fields. It was sizeable, around six feet long, and children
had fun posing for photographs with the inert jaw propped open. In the
newspaper photo you can see all the characteristic attributes of the
"mugger"; broad snout, tail with two series of scales merging into one,
webbed toes. A ferocious hunter in water, this one got caught out on
land and paid the price.

But how did this beast get to Siolim in the first place? Are there
crocodiles up and down the Chapora River? Is this mugger a loner who
made a solitary journey far away from its natural habitat, or merely one
of many crocs which have always lived in Siolim but never bothered to
add their names to that village's list of resident luminaries? The sad
truth is that we don't know, that we have barely any idea of what lurks
in our rivers and jungles. Even as our ecosystem comes under threat from
unchecked urbanization and development, we find ourselves ignorant of
what we have and stand to lose.

How many of us know that Goa lies adjacent to a globally significant
ecological "hotspot"? International scientists have picked out
twenty-five zones around the world, totalling a mere 1.4 per cent of the
world land surface but home to half of existing plant species and 30 per
cent of vertebrates. These are reservoirs of biodiversity, the most
precious natural reserves left. India has two; the North East and the
Western Ghats. Both are endangered and shrinking, comprehensively
underexplored and badly understood. An illustration of this is the very
recent discovery of a new large-sized macaque species in Arunachal
Pradesh; scientists have only to barely scratch the surface of the
jungle and a major unknown animal saunters out. 

In Goa, of course, we know next to nothing about our own biodiversity
despite our small size, and despite the presence of quite a large
scientific corps. The only thing we can really be sure of is that
species are dying out without being recorded because natural habitats
are torn down to make place for our burgeoning population. We also know
that rapacious bulldozers are on the move in territory that has never
been properly studied, and what we lose now is irreplaceable.

Kerala is way ahead in understanding its natural patrimony; they're
constantly carrying out studies to catalogue biodiversity, and they are
predictably discovering all kinds of new things. Recently, for example,
students of Sacred Heart College in Ernakulam carried out a spider
survey in nearby mangroves and found an astounding three new species in
just 2.5 hectares. Similar findings were reported from a far more
comprehensive study of freshwater fish conducted by the School of
Industrial Fisheries, which recorded dozens of specimens that nobody
knew swam in Kerala waters.

Improbable but true; one of these new findings happened to be the
mahseer. And what's more, another Himalayan fish was found swimming way
down South in waters which were thought to have no connection with the
far North. In order to help explain these findings, the old and radical
Satpura hypothesis is being re-examined anew. It's an idea proposed in
1949, by an ichthyologist named Hora, who claimed that there must be a
contigual corridor of evergreen forest cover that stretches between what
we now call India's biodiversity hotspots. In effect, that means that
the North East and the Western Ghats could be connected, that they might
be interlinked.

That means that Goa is also most likely tied into a complex ecological
system that stretches thousands of miles into the Himalayas, and we
might be able to prove this via more research. Our universities should
take note of that Ernakulam study and emulate it, our forest officials
should call in the School for Industrial Fisheries just as Kerala did,
we should formulate a Biodiversity Corps in our schools; we need to have
a top-to-bottom cataloguing of our biodiversity before it's too late.
Just like it's too late to find out more about that croc that went for a
fatal walk in the moonlight in Siolim.


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[Goanet]Migrant Labor in Goa � A Problem? (Daryl Martyris, in The Future of Goa)

2005-07-31 Thread Constantino Xavier


Paper on
http://www.supergoa.com/pt/read/news_future.asp?c_news=503

Part of THE FUTURE OF GOA initiative
http://www.supergoa.com/pt/read/news_ultimas.asp?type=4

There is a growing perception among Goans that the influx of "outsiders" 
from other Indian states is dilluting Goan identity and destabilizing social 
and religious harmony. In this brilliant paper, Daryl Martyris addresses the 
roots of the problem and proposes several intelligent and straight-forward 
solutions to tackle the issue - respecting the interests of all.


Daryl Martyris recently graduated with a Masters degree in Public 
Administration and International Development from Harvard University. He 
currently works for the US Federal Government in Washington DC.



Some quotes:

"Though, migrant labor is essential for many sectors of the Goan economy, 
the volume of migration has triggered a growing volume of protest from 
native Goans over the impact it is having on the economic and social fabric 
of the State."


"The problem arises from the fact that above-average growth-rates and high 
levels of human development have not translated into employment (or suitable 
employment) for many local Goans. Consequently large numbers of educated 
Goan youth migrate out of Goa in search of jobs every year."


"For example, with just 2 colleges of engineering with an intake capacity of 
580 students, Goa allows 60-70 seats for out-of-state students. On the other 
hand a state like Karnataka with 47 engineering colleges allows just 25 
seats for out-of-state students."


"While increased access to education and the low status associated with 
agricultural labor have caused a shift away from traditional agriculture, 
changes in the structure of social institutions have also contributed to a 
loss in the means to pursue traditional means of livelihood. Prior to 1961, 
for centuries the institution of the Communidade was the local model of 
governance."


"Residential stability is usually associated with greater civic engagement 
and trust is higher among those who have interacted for a long period of 
time and have established cooperative relations. Creating a network of 
social relations and building trust takes time, and some relations and 
experiences (e.g., those with family and childhood friends) cannot be 
recreated."


"The proportion of Catholics has decreased due to higher relative 
out-migration of Catholics, and higher relative in-migration of Hindus. One 
common, though unsubstantiated perception in the Catholic community is that 
the community, which once dominated the administrative bureaucracy, is now 
discriminated against in allotment of government jobs."


Access the full paper:
http://www.supergoa.com/pt/read/news_future.asp?c_news=487



Interview on
http://www.supergoa.com/pt/read/news_future.asp?c_news=487

Part of THE FUTURE OF GOA initiative
http://www.supergoa.com/pt/read/news_ultimas.asp?type=4

Born 1948 in Carmona, Mathany Saldanha is Goa's minister for Tourism, Sports 
and Youth Affairs and was elected MLA by the constituency of Cortalim 
(Salcete). Having participated and led several social and environmental 
struggles in Goa, from 1974 till date, he is presently a member of the 
United Goans Democratic Party. He has been in Europe, America and Asia and 
shares strong bonds with Goa's Diaspora. This is the conversation we had in 
December 2003 in his office in Cortalim.


Some quotes:

"For us democracy is to achieve power"

"We have no more role models to be proud of"

"too many Goans will die of fear"

"regional parties have better knowledge and feelings about the state"

"Goans have no collective feeling and pride"

"I will contest again"

"If Goa becomes great, then I become great"

"I wish I could help (Goans abroad) to come back and settle here"

Full interview:
http://www.supergoa.com/pt/read/news_future.asp?c_news=487





[Goanet]Goanet Reader: Of a charter, political agendas and caste rivalry in Goa

2005-07-31 Thread Goanet Reader
OF A CHARTER, POLITICAL AGENDAS AND CASTE RIVALRY IN GOA

Indo-Portuguese historian Dr Teotonio R de Souza reviews a book
that studies the 'Foral' or the Charter of Rights and
Obligations granted by the Portuguese administration to native
Goans in 1526. But there's more than history here, says the
reviewer.

---
As Políticas Portuguesas na India e o Foral de Goa
[The Portuguese Policies in Goa and the Charter of Goa]
Valentino Viegas
Lisboa
Livros Horizonte
2005
pp.125
---

Reviewed by Teotonio R. de Souza [EMAIL PROTECTED]  
Courtesy Goa Research Net 

This book was released at the Casa de Goa, Lisbon, by Dr. Nuno
Gonçalves, a grandson of the last Portuguese governor-general of
Goa till 1961.

  After two initial chapters covering the story of the
  Portuguese arrival in India, and their use of force
  whenever cultural and economic conflicts did not
  permit a more peaceful control of the trade in the
  Indian Ocean, from page 45, the book takes up the
  study of the 'Foral' or the Charter of Rights and
  Obligations granted by the Portuguese administration
  to native Goans in 1526.

Author Viegas states that some earlier historians like Filipe
Nery Xavier Cunha Rivara and this reviewer (Teotonio de Souza)
utilised the versions available in Goa and did not care to
consult the "original". He comes to the conclusion that a
version available at the National Archives of Lisbon is not the
"original" but only a "registo", which he decided to transcribe
in Chapter IV (pp. 85-93), modernizing the text in a way that
hardly helps anyone to read it better or more usefully. A
facsimile reproduction alongside the transcription would have
been more useful for an informed and critical reader.

Unfortunately this unhelpful transcription is accompanied by a
less helpful genealogy and analysis of this manuscript version
of the 'Foral' available at the National Archives of Lisbon in
'Gavetas 20-10-13'.  The author does not mention, and obviously
does not correct the reference to it in 1964, as the 'original'
by Carlos Renato Gonçalves Pereira (*História da Administração
da Justiça no Estado da India - Séc. XVI*, Vol. I, Lisboa, 1964,
p. 89, n. 6 with reference to *Gavetas 20-10-30*).

This happened about 10 years before this Lisbon version was
published in 'As Gavetas da Torre do Tombo', Lisboa, Centro de
Estudos Históricos Ultramarinos, 1975, Vol. XI, pp. 19-28. The
same version was transcribed somewhat freely more than a century
earlier by Manuel José Gomes Loureiro, 'Memórias dos
Estabelecimentos Portuguezes a l’este do Cabo de Boa Esperança',
Lisboa, 1835.

One of the clauses missing in his transcription is curiously the
same that is missing in the presently edited version of
Valentino Viegas! The language style and the missing parts
suggest it to be an early draft, rather then a developed or
final version critically edited by Cunha Rivara by comparing
three different texts that he could find in Goa. He published it
in 'Archivo Portuguez-Oriental', Fasc. V, doc. 58. Baden-Powell
translated from there and was used by me in *Medieval Goa*,
Delhi, 1979.

Valentino Viegas makes no reference to the published version of
Manuel José Gomes Loureiro, nor to another published by A. Lopes
Mendes, 'A India Portugueza', II, Lisboa, 1886, pp. 180-198,
based on Cunha Rivara’s APO version.

  What appears more grave is the lack of methodological
  rigour in his selective use of some passages from the
  Portuguese edition of my 'Goa Medieval' (1993), and
  for uncritically citing on p. 119 (n.154) a truncated
  (printing error) footnote to score a point, without
  caring to check the correct information in the
  corresponding main text (p. 57) or the correct version
  of the same footnote in the English original (p. 67,
  n. 21). 

While referring to the fact that 'Goa Medieval' (1979) used the
English translation of B.H.  Baden-Powell, fails to note that
Baden-Powell translated it from the version of Cunha-Rivara
which the author ends up admitting as the best and most useful
surviving version p. 46. He even resorts to it to complete the
missing words in his own damaged manuscript version of the
Lisbon archives. At the end of all this effort one is left
wondering about what new contribution this book has made to our
knowledge of Goa's history.

The last Chapter has the key.
 
What appears to be original in this book is the politicisation
of history in Chapter V (pp. 95-105), the concluding chapter of
the book. The author, a Goan, belongs to the wave of Goans who
opted to leave Goa and settle in Portugal soon after 1961,
rather than accept the integration into India. 

Possibly now, in the wake of developments in Timor, the author
may have developed fresh ideas and some courage (from the safe
dis

[Goanet]Ridiculing Goans? (RRK) RIDICULOUS GOA???

2005-07-31 Thread gerry ferns
   RIDICULOUS GOA?

Yes indeed some Goans need to be held up to unalloyed
ridicule.Some Goans take themseves too seriously and
are constantly heard to be the " I" , "ME" & "MYSELF"
variety, as if everything they hold forth on is
divinely revealed Scripture!!!
At a recent SYMPOSIUM on the SEZ held under yhe
auspices of the GCCI & Diocesan Social Action Centre
at Panaji, a Botany Lecturer of Goa University, after
admitting that he had not read the SPECIAL ECONOMIC
ZONES ACT, nonetheless went on to rave and rant about
the undesirability of SEZs for Goa!!! Another
legal worthy who was on the dais also admitted that he
had not read the SEZ ACT but had cursorily leafed
through the BILL overnight,nonetheless went on to
deliver a resounding speech denouncing the
SEZ!! The moderator who titles himself as a
"Development Consultant" did nothing to moderate these
loudmouths who of their own admission were ignorant of
the SEZ Act. And sitting through it all, besides the
sparse audience, was the Representative of His
Excellency Archbishop of Goa & Patriach of the East
Indies!! A legislator known for his "
environmental agitations" that catapulted him into the
Goa Assembly,(where promptly he lost his voice!) who
was in the audience was seen lustily clapping
during/after the SPEECH by the University Don!
The GCCI however did a professional sales pitch for
the SEZ.
Though I am in favour of SEZs in Goa, I was numbed at
the utter lack of preparation  by the University Don
and the Lawyer, and admired their "BRASHNESS"
Should not such people, even if they are GOANS be held
up to ridicule? Should not the Organisers of such
PARODIES also be held up to ridicule? Should not the
audience-- bar one_-- who protested also be held up to
ridicule? GOA NEEDS TO GET ITS ACT TOGETHER, PULL UP
ITS SOCKS , OR ELSE CON ARTISTS WILL CONTINUE TO RULE
THE ROOST AND INFLUENCE PUBLIC POLICY/OPINION!!
 
CAN WE TAKE TIME TO LAUGH AT OURSELVES??

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Re: [Goanet]EMIGRATION: Sikhs rule in California's Central Valley

2005-07-31 Thread cornel

Hi Fred,
I was working on an article titled-- 'From Auckland to Vancouver: Goaness 
within this thin long necklace of the Goan Diaspora.' Unfortunately, 
something put me off completing this for Goanet. However, in answer to your 
question why the Goan 'presence' outside Goa is rather invisible, I think it 
may be because numbers may be relatively small and also not engaged 
significantly in business/entrepreneurial work, but in the professions. Just 
a thought.

Regards,
Cornel
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[Goanet]Re: [Goanet]Goan experiences Mumbaiites' spirit during monsoon fury (Herald)

2005-07-31 Thread cornel
This is a genuine question to Sharon Mascarenhas as to what exactly she 
means by saying she "is a  pure blooded Goan." Is this term somehow linked 
to her MSc in nursing?

Just curious.
Cornel
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Subject: [Goanet]Goan experiences Mumbaiites' spirit during monsoon fury 
(Herald)



http://oheraldo.in/node/2333?PHPSESSID=381496c85b7387264735b864578a2fd1
Goan experiences Mumbaiites' spirit during monsoon fury [Herald]
BY SHARON MASCARENHAS
This is the story of a pure blooded  Goan who faced the wrath of Mumbai 
these
past three days. 






[Goanet].................................website for GIN !

2005-07-31 Thread rene barreto



00

 
 Goans and  Friends of Goa ! 



 Extract from the  GIN's webiste 
 
 Goans in the Netherlands :
 http://www.goacom.com/gin/g/aboutGIN.htm
 You can write to them at : 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] , 

 I am sure they ( The GIN's : -  ) )
 will be glad to hear from you ..
 Goans in and around the Netherlands 
 ..or ..from wherever you may be. 

   



A day to make us feel 'Proud to be Goans'. It is
celebrated on August 20th all over the world .  
The Netherlands has been home for Goans (People 
from Goa, India) for a long time. At least 45 
years. A few of them had contact and presumed that

they were the only Goans in the Netherlands. There

are a lot of people from Surinam here. They look 
like Goans which made it difficult to approach 
every one who resembled a Goan. Internet came 
along. Goans got connected to the cyberworld.


Then out of the blue came Miss Fredrica Cortez. Being
all alone she made it her hobby to seek and unite the
Goans in the Netherlands. She organized the first
Picnic in 1999. It was a success. The second Picnic
was held on the 15th of July. It drew an even larger
crowd than the first. We all had a nice time. 

This site is dedicated to the Goans in the
Netherlands. As events take place and photos come
along they will be available to be viewed here. 

We are in the process of compiling a Database of all
the Goans here and would like if you, the Goans In the
Netherlands, e-mail us and give us your particulars.
Just simple details like your names and telephone
numbers, your children's names and age, hobbies and
e-mail address. The purpose of this information is so
that we can leave a network for our children. They are
and will be here. They maybe able to use this
information someday and keep the Goan flame burning.
In the meantime lets have fun together. 

You are welcome to send poems, stories, drawings,
paintings or any other form of artistic expression to
this site and they will be published.

00
GOAGOAGOA  WORLD GOA DAY GOAGOAGOAGOAGOA

WORLD GOA DAY- 20th of Augugst 2005
Bringing Goans TOGETHER to work TOGETHER 
..for a better Goanworld.

00
An email address for every Goan wherever 
s/he may be. 
Please support our Partnership project 
Goanet,St.Xavier's College -Mapusa, Goa.

0

  rene barreto
  PROUD TO BE A GOAN
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RE: [Goanet] Re: britain and immigrants

2005-07-31 Thread Cip Fernandes

The statement is NOT true, in fact totally wrong.

Cip

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf
Of Radhakrishnan Nair
Sent: 31 July 2005 05:47
To: goanet@goanet.org
Subject: [Goanet](no subject)


(Mr Rene Barreto says: Mr Nair,  I believe You are TRYING  to ridicule SOME
our
Goans , please stop doing that. Please stop being too
smart.  I am not too sure if other Goans feel the same or
are they too scared to say so.   rene)

Of course I'm trying to ridicule SOME Goans who keep harping on "outsiders"
polluting the serenity of Goa while they themselves are comfortably
ensconced in other parts of India and the world.

-- RKN

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Re: [Goanet]Re: Which of the two events of '61

2005-07-31 Thread Bernado Colaco
Mr. Jerry,

Clearly with all the riches we had and have we can
go/gone it on our own. Partial democracy is
estabilished in Hong Kong and Macau. In Goa the so
called one man one vote has caused sectarian
divisions, the future is doomed!

B. Colaco
> ***-***
> 
> 
> Hello bernardo,
> 
> 
> 
> Just out of curiosity, do you think Goa was better
> off as a Union Territory?
> Could you tell what this partial democracy is?
> 
> 
> 
> Cheers
> 
> 
> 
> Jerry Fernandes
>





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Re: [Goanet]EMIGRATION: Sikhs rule in California's Central Valley

2005-07-31 Thread Bernado Colaco
Goans integrate and melt into society world wide. Take
the case of Portugal or Great Britain. Goans are not
looking for cheap accolades.

B. Colaco

> 
> So why are Goans simply so invisible in history? Is
> it that their tale
> has not been told? How do we change this situation?
> Can the Internet
> help? Questions, questions
> 
> 
> 




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Re: [Goanet]Re: Ron Rowell: India Portuguesa - A Moment in Time

2005-07-31 Thread Bernado Colaco

--- john menezes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> My response to :
>
http://www.wordcraftcircle.org/natreal/v1n2/narrat2.htm
===
Congratualtions to John for giving us the insights to
the events of 61.

B. Colaco



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[Goanet]RE: Letter to the Editor on NT

2005-07-31 Thread Philip Thomas


Unfortunately nobody realises that the Fundamental Problem of Goa is the
continued insensitive use of Dabolim airport for naval flight training
during prime daylight hours. Once this problem is sorted out then all other
infrastructure matters especially those mentioned in the letter to the
editor can be attended to systematically and in a time bound way.




RE: [Goanet]RE: britain and immigrants

2005-07-31 Thread Cip Fernandes
halur rasho,

Who has displayed on Goanet racist attitudes? 


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf
Of halur rasho
Sent: 30 July 2005 16:29
To: goanet@goanet.org
Subject: Re: [Goanet]RE: britain and immigrants


Exactly. Sorry , but Goans who display racist
attitudes  towards indians get no sympathy from me
when they encounter rascism abroad.

--- rene barreto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:






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