Re: [Goanet] Don't be alarmed
--- Santosh Helekar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Don't be alarmed, but the fact is you are getting > old. > You are hurtling towards the end of your life. At > that > point the show is over. The lights are out. The > darkness is out. Don't expect any kind of an > afterlife, a rebirth or a reincarnation. Sorry Dr. Helekar, but life for the atheists, it appears to me, from reading the above, is pathetic - just a piece of flesh, meant only for procreation "to pass on the genes", nil else. A sure recipe for suicide should one be unable to procreate for any reason. Anyhow. One will come to know if there life after life or not, just at the moment as one's life is about to be extinguished - by then, too late for the atheist if his theories are wrong; a wasted life in doing good things (for the theist) if the atheist is right. I'd rather be the latter and have at least strived to make the world a better place to live for those surviving me. Interestingly, I had posted a piece just yesterday regarding Mother Angelica and EWTN, which was rejected by the goanet admin as being "off-topic". I accepted the reason. However, I won't raise my hackles on Dr. Helekar's post. I will, however, refer to just one paragraph of that rejected post, below, as it has reference to Dr. Helekar's post: I am convinced God is looking for dodoes, she (Mother Angelica) once told Protestant televangelist Jim Bakker. He found one: me! There are a lot of smart people out there who know it cant be done, so they dont do it. But a dodo doesnt know it cant be done. God uses dodoes: people who are willing to look ridiculous so God can do the miraculous. Anyone interested in reading the whole article from where this paragraph came, please see http://www.holyspiritinteractive.net/columns/guests/tomhoopes/motherangelica.asp Cheers, Gabriel de Figueiredo. Melbourne - VIC - Australia. ___ On Yahoo!7 Desperate Housewives: Sneak peeks, recaps and more. http://www.yahoo7.com.au/desperate-housewives
[Goanet] RNRL to shift base to Goa, raises FII limit to 74 pc
http://news.webindia123.com/news/printer.asp?id=266446&cat=Business RNRL to shift base to Goa, raises FII limit to 74 pc Mumbai | March 03, 2006 3:32:02 PM IST Reliance Natural Resources Ltd (RNRL), a Anil Dhirubhai Ambani Group company, has proposed the shifting of its Registered Office from Mumbai to Goa. Informing the Bombay Stock Exchange, the company said it has proposed to raise the Foreign Institutional Investors (FIIs) limit in the company to 74 per cent of the paid up capital. Further, it informed that it also proposed to increase the authorised share capital of the company to Rs 1,500 crore from 650 crore. The members have been asked to reply on the proposals on or before March 29, and the final decision will be taken by March 31. UNI RRP MJ AG2030 -- TUMCHER AXIRVAD ASSUM; DEV BOREM KORUM. Gabe Menezes. London, England
Re: [Goanet] GOA FOR GOANS!
Bernardo, In addition to GOA FOR GOANS, it looks like you are now proposing AMERICA FOR INDIANS? Maybe it has escaped your attention that the US belongs to the world, just as Canada, Australia and New Zealand. > However, I'll make you a deal. We will return the US to the native Americans right after you Indian immigrants return the UK to the Brits. It is time you Goan expatriate hypocrites return to Goa and help make it for Goans, rather than make bizarre demands while living eleswhere. Mario. --- Bernado Colaco <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > We have lotta culture now in Goa. Hypocrites in the > US > return the land to the Indians! > > BC > > > Mario asks: > > > > > Floriano, > > Correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't Goa a COLONY > of > > a > > third rate European country, acquired by force 450 > > years ago, where there was no such thing as > > democratic > > rule, and no such thing as economic development > > either, except that which benefited Goa's colonial > > masters. How can you claim "sans manipulation" > when > > a > > colony is nothing but manipulation and > exploitation, > > and "sans vote banks" when voting meant nothing? > > > > > In my opinion, it's not democracy that is at fault > > in > > Goa and India, but a subservient and careless > > population that goes along with abuses without > > rising > > up and electing honest people. > > > > > > > > > ___ > > Yahoo! Photos NEW, now offering a quality print > service from just 8p a photo > http://uk.photos.yahoo.com > >
[Goanet] Advocates Of Roman-script Konkani Say Goan Priests Have Let Them Down
INDIA: Advocates Of Roman-script Konkani Say Goan Priests Have Let Them Down PANAJI, India (UCAN) -- Some Catholics in Goa say their priests have betrayed them in their campaign to have the Roman script used in the written expression of the Konkani language. Konkani is the official language of Goa, and for several decades the Church has pressed for the Roman script to be used in writing it. Hindus, who form some 67 percent of the state's 1.3 million people, use the Devanagari script for the language. They dismiss the Roman script as a "missionary script," since Christian missioners introduced it. The issue took on political overtones after 1987, when Goa became a state and the government recognized Devanagari as the script for Konkani. This script is used for Sanskrit and several languages in northern India. Until recently the Church was united in its demand for the use of the Roman script. But now Catholics say some priests working in the archbishop's house no longer support the cause. "We feel betrayed by our own priests," says Maria Fernandes, a Catholic. The Church has "backed us for decades on the Konkani cause," she told UCA News, but "now the Hindus are laughing at us." A pro-Roman script group had sent a letter to parish priests appealing for Catholics to attend a Feb. 10 rally intended to counter a Feb. 10-12 world Konkani convention in the Goa capital of Panaji, some 1,910 kilometers southwest of New Delhi. The convention advocated use of the Devanagari script. The pro-Roman script group wanted its appeal to be read out in churches. Some priests called up the archbishop's house for advice. As Archbishop Filipe Neri Ferrao of Goa and Daman was at the Indian bishops' plenary in Bangalore, his secretary, Father Joaquim Loiola Pereira, told the priests not to read out the appeal. Later, the priests working in the archbishop's house called up all parishes and asked priests not to read it out. The Catholic rally organizers said they wanted to protest the Konkani convention's divisive and "fascist" agenda of promoting "one script, one language, one literature and one community." Opponents attribute the move to right-wing Hindu nationalist groups. Rally organizers argued that after official recognition of the Devanagari script, Goa's Catholics have faced discrimination in employment, such as in government publications and state projects, and in literary awards and grants. Catholics generally are fluent in the Roman script, used in liturgical publications, but many are said to struggle still with the Devanagari script. >From the archbishop's house, Father Raymond Antao, who heads the archdiocesan Center for Social Communication Media, justified the directive not to read out the rally organizers' appeal. According to him, it "did not come from a proper forum" and was issued without consulting the archbishop. "We have to have proper consultations before such announcements are made from the pulpit, or else it can trigger a backlash," he explained. Some priests who attended the rally, however, decried such an attitude. One who refused to be named countered that priests should not be treated as "animals" without the ability to think. "We know what is good for the people," he said, adding that priests have already been making other announcements in church from various bodies including government agencies. At least four priests occupied the dais at the pro-Roman script rally. Some others present said the directive from the archbishop's house placed the clergy in a poor light. A Konkani newspaper ran a headline saying that Archbishop Ferrao did not support the use of the Roman script. Tomazinho Cardozo, a Catholic leader of the pro-Roman script movement, blamed the refusal to read the appeal in churches for the poor turnout of fewer than 500 people. "Whenever we had meetings with the archbishop, he was always sympathetic to our cause," he added. Father Mousinho de Ataide, who teaches canon law at the archdiocesan seminary, attended the Konkani convention's valedictory function and was its chief guest. He supports the Devanagari script out of conviction, he told UCA News. Devanagari is not only the natural script of Konkani, but was in use before the arrival of Portuguese missioners, he explained. Father Antimo Gomes, a parish priest who shared the dais at the pro-Roman script rally, said about 20 of the archdiocese's 630 priests support the Devanagari script since they are afraid of a Hindu-Catholic divide in the state. But the script issue itself had created the sectarian divide, he added. At a Feb. 22 function in Panaji, State Industries Minister Luizinho Faleiro called for the two script factions to come together and develop the Konkani language further, rather than having Goans "fight among ourselves." Nonetheless, he called for proper recognition of those using the Roman script. END
[Goanet] DKA demands
DALGADO KONKNNI AKADEMI C/o Rhythm House, Opp Meenakshi Hotel, Margao, Goa - 403 601 Phone: 2714299 Demands of Dalgado Konknni Akademi (DKA): 1.Goa Govt. should amend the Official Language Act 1987 to insert three words in 2 (c) Konknni means .. and Roman script. DKA demands equal and official status in the Official Language Act to Konknni written in Devanagari and Roman scripts. 2.Goa Govt. recognizes Marathi Akademi as the official Akademi for Marathi in Goa and gives grants through the Directorate of Official Language. In the same way, Goa Government must recognize Dalgado Konknni Akademi as the official NGO of Konknni in Roman script, and give the same amount of grants directly to DKA. 3.So far, Goa Govt. has not appointed the president of Goa Konknni Akademi (GKA) from the Roman script group. In the future, Govt. should appoint the president by turns from Devanagari script and Roman script promoters alternatively. 4.GKA is a Govt. institution. At present a nominee of the All India Konknni Parishad is the ex-officio member of GKA. GKA Constitution must be amended to include a nominee of Dalgado Konknni Akademi as the ex-officio member of GKA. Goa Govt. appoints three eminent persons in the field of Konknni language, literature or culture as ex-officio members of GKA. While nominating these three persons Govt. should give equal representation to Devanagari and Roman script. 5.Kala Akademi (KA) gives annual prizes for one book published in Konknni in Devanagari script and a book in Marathi. KA must also give an annual prize to a book written in Roman script. KA should give to Konknni in Roman script the projects and schemes which are available to Konknni in Devanagari script. 6.Kala Akademi gives Gomantak Sharada Puroskar to Konknni writers in Devanagari script and Marathi writers. In future KA must consider and give this prestigious award to Konknni writers in Roman script and artists as well. 7.Kala Akademi is established to promote the culture of Goa. Hence it should be asked to hold competitions and to promote Khell tiatrs (non-stop Konknni drama), one-act plays in Konknni in Roman script, Mandos, Dekhnnis, Christmas carols, Christmas cribs, Sangodd, Church hymns, Motets, Intruz khells, Kantaram, Kunnbi songs and dances, and other folk arts. 8.Govt. must name its new theatre for the performing arts in Margão, in honour of Late João Agostinho Fernandes, who is popularly known as "Pai Tiatrist". By doing this Govt. will honour a great Goan tiatrist and his minority community. 9.Goa Govt. has the Advisory Board for Directorate of Official Language. In this Advisory Board the Govt. must give equal representation to Konknni writers in Roman and Devanagari scripts and Marathi. 10. Goa Konknni Akademi, Kala Akademi, Directorate of Art and Culture, and other Govt. departments while publishing Konknni books, should publish them in both Devanagari script and Roman script. 11. Tiatr is the most popular form of theatre in Goa. To promote this local art form, Goa Govt. should make available its theatres in Panaji, Ponda, Margao and elsewhere at subsidized rates for tiatrs. This generous gesture of the Govt. will boost the tiatr industry. 12. Konknni has two representatives in Sahitya Akademi, New Delhi. Goa Govt. sends three names to Sahitya Akademi as its nominees. Let the Goa Govt. send names of both Konknni writers in Devanagari script and Roman script. 13. To promote Konknni films the Govt. must establish a separate board of films consisting of writers, artists and experts in filmmaking. This board too must have equal representation of Roman script experts as demanded in all other cases. 14. Education department must publish Konknni books written in Roman script to promote adult literacy programme In Goa. Wilson Mazarello President
[Goanet] Workshop on Gardens.... at Dande's, Nagali.
Dears, If you love gardening and are free on either of the next two weekends 11-12 March or 18-19 March, 2006.this is for you. Viva goa. Miguel Workshops on Gardening By Ashok Dande, Specialist in landscaping, Rock gardens, for over 55 yrs. An Unique opportunity for plant, garden lovers to get in depth knowledge of fascinating world of plants and gardens. Learn simple tips on ABC of successful gardening. How to go about: Soil management, Planting/potting mixtures, Enhancing moisture retaining capacity of soil, Maintaining fertile soil for a number of years, various methods of Plant propagation, Organic manures, Preparing rich compost from Garbage, Roof/Terrace/Kitchen gardens, Rock gardens, Ponds, Water gardens, Indoor/Outdoor/Fruiting/ Ornamental plants, Coconuts, Orchards, Plants in pots, Anthuriums, Orchids, Lush green patch free Lawns, ...Each topic followed by demonstrations, questions/answers. Venue: OUR aesthetically laid gardens in Nagali, Taligao, amidst tranquil settings, with various rock gardens, Ponds, Cascades, a variety of exotic vibrant plants, fruit laden plants in pots, profusely bearing coconut palms, grown on our Organic manures. 2 Workshops: Workshop No. 1 Sat 11th, Sun 12th March 2006 >From 10 to 1 and 2.30 to 5.30 Workshop No. 2 Sat 18th, Sun 19th March 2006 >From 10 to 1 and 2.30 to 5.30 Those who are not able to attend the sessions on Saturday may attend the sessions on 2 Sundays and those who cannot attend on a Sunday may do so on each Saturday of the 2 workshops. The program is specially designed with such persons in mind, so as not to miss any topics. For any further details, Registration, call 2464839. 9822589738 E-Mail:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Free introductory session on Saturday the 18 March from 9 to 10 am. .. We re affirm our commitment to spread Happiness & Joy through Gardening. === Normalize your blood pressure, raise your level of joy and happiness by indulging into gardening, being in the company of plants and nature.
[Goanet] AICHEA DISSAK CHINTOP - Marsachi 4ti, 2006!
Deva thaim ek panvol mar ani Dev tuje thaim don panvllam martolo. (Take one step toward God and God will take two steps toward you.) Moi-mogan, Domnic Fernandes Anjuna/Dhahran, KSA _ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/
[Goanet] Police fire in air to quell rioting, Goa CM appeals for harmony
http://news.webindia123.com/news/printer.asp?id=267606&cat=India Police fire in air to quell rioting, Goa CM appeals for harmony Panaji | March 04, 2006 12:39:02 AM IST Several people were injured in incidents of stone-throwing and some shops and establishments, besides vehicles damaged in clashes between two communities tonight over the demolition of an ''illegal''structure of worship in Goddimol-Sanvordem village in South Goa. Battling for about two hours, police brought the situation under control after firing into the air and resorting to lathicharge, Deputy Inspector General of Police (Crime) Ujjwal Mishra told UNI tonight. The police are likely to impose prohibitory orders with immediate effect under section 144 CrPC, prohibiting assembly of five or more persons in the tension-ridden area following the turmoil, he said. Night patrolling of the area was underway now and efforts would be made to apaprehend the miscreants on either side. The situation was tense but under control. The trouble started after the demolition of a place of worship belonging to a minority community on Wednesday, with the community elders getting a stay from the Directorate of Panchayats against the demolition order issued by the local panchayat. This snowballed into a clash in the village despite the presence of the police, with both the communities hurling missiles at each other. The police could not specify the number of people injured in the melee, with the miscreants on the prowl. Additional police force had been rushed to the village as a precautionary measure. Meanwhile, Chief Minister Pratapsinh Rane had appealed to the people to maintain peace, harmony and restraint in the village asking them not to take law into their own hands or get carried away by incitements. UNI BM SSS LR KP2327 Unrest after Israel church attack Three Israelis reportedly set off firecrackers in the Church of the Annunciation in Nazareth during a service late on Friday. The incident caused panic among worshippers and sparked angry protests outside the church, where hundreds of people congregated. Large numbers of police were present at the church, where the two attackers were said to be hiding from the crowds. The church is one of Christianity's most important sites. The three, two women and a man, entered the church pushing a pram filled with fireworks and small gas canisters and began throwing them, reports said. This sparked panic among worshippers, some of whom were said to have attacked the group. Hundreds of people then gathered outside the church to protest against the incident, preventing the three from leaving. Rioting broke out in which police used tear gas and some people were injured, the Associated Press news agency reported. Story from BBC NEWS: http://news.bbc.co.uk/go/pr/fr/-/1/hi/world/middle_east/4772364.stm -- TUMCHER AXIRVAD ASSUM; DEV BOREM KORUM. Gabe Menezes. London, England
Re: [Goanet] Don't be alarmed
On 02/03/06, Santosh Helekar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Don't be alarmed, but the fact is you are getting old. > You are hurtling towards the end of your life. At that > point the show is over. The lights are out. The > darkness is out. Don't expect any kind of an > afterlife, a rebirth or a reincarnation. > . Post any that > you wish to share with us in this forum. They would be > archived for posterity. > > So go. Don't waste any time. There is not much left. > > Cheers, > > Santosh RESPONSE: Wow what a post. 1 This could provoke a religious belief debate. 2 This could goad the resident, know all, to respond with vehemence ( usual rancour ). Perhaps the man has gone away, had enough of 27 posts being rejected in one day! 3 If this is to encourage more to post, it is a good tantalizing bait. What Goanet needs is more moderators. People are turning off, as the wait for their postings and responses to appear is far beyond the patience of most if not many! -- TUMCHER AXIRVAD ASSUM; DEV BOREM KORUM. Gabe Menezes. London, England
[Goanet] DSSS Scheme: Rs.750 a month pension for all Goans (Rich and Poor) ?
Dayanand Social Security scheme. (DSSS) DSS - A drain on treasury ? Stats: New entrants per month: 1000 Total Beneficiaries as on date : 80,000 Total expense per month: Rs 5 crores (source Herald) Just wondering if all the Goan senior citizens (Rich & Poor) are entitled to Rs.500/month pesion (now Rs.750) or just the deserving ones.. Once, while I was having a chat with a Goan (London) I asked him whether he regularly sends money to his Mom back home (Goa). He sends 100 pounds (Rs.8200) once in 3 months plus his mother gets Govt.Pension Rs.500 per month. plus they have a property to live on. In an other case, in Goa, a well to do family, father being retired Seaman with house and land, one son in the US (wife in Goa), one son works in Gulf, 2 other sons work for Goan hotels etc Retired seamen get their pension and on top Govt. Pension ? When asked one the the sons said the local MLA helped them (who also belongs to the same caste 'Charddo' or 'Gaumkars') It looks like half the pension fund goes to the rich or to the friends and family of MLAs, Sarpanchas, panchas etc Both congress and BJP assured that the pension would be raised to Rs.700pm if come back to power. Both also assured starting of 'dole' payment to unemployed youth. Rs.600,00,000 per month? avois!! Is this money going to the right people ? Are these people are real 'Gorib' Konnache poixe ani konn khata gai ? or one in 16 goans is gorib bikari ?? Saiba bhogos. And after 5 years, what ? one in ten goans Gorib Bhikari ? I am 64 now, and I am glad next year I too would be Rs.750 richer every month. Any NRIs interested ? Just see your local Sarpanch or MLA or MP. Or just see me I have good contacts and my commission is Rs.250 (about 33.33%). Conclusion: This is a good scheme to help the needy, thanks to Parrikar Govt. He should at least get some credit for this. But 'all is not well' with this scheme. Whole scheme should be scrapped as soon as possible. It should be re introduced with stricter eligibility criteria, including the applicants family background, the value of house or property, bank balances, gold ornaments and other valuables. Some times, we leave behind lot of wealth (or house) and this in turn creating problems amongst the surviving wealthy sons and daughters. Note: There is another pension/Scheme: Freedom Fighters. More and more Freedoms fighters joining in every year to milk the cow ? [EMAIL PROTECTED] for Goa & NRI related info... http://in.groups.yahoo.com/group/GOAN-NRI/ for Goa & Goa Flights info.. http://uk.groups.yahoo.com/group/LetsGotoGoa ___ To help you stay safe and secure online, we've developed the all new Yahoo! Security Centre. http://uk.security.yahoo.com
[Goanet] The world needs India: Bush
The world needs India: Bush George Iype in Hyderabad | March 03, 2006 | 19:01 IST He admires Indian entrepreneurs. He praises professors for teaching young Indians to take risks. And he says it is in the interest of both the United States and India that the entrepreneurial class grows in India. US President George Bush was at his best talking entrepreneurship with a group of students, entrepreneurs and professors at the Indian School of Business in Hyderabad on Friday. "It's hard to teach people to be risk takers, and you have professors here who give you the tools to be risk takers," Bush told the ISB gathering. President Bush, who praised the Entrepreneurship Centre at the ISB, said: "The world needs India. And it is in the interest of both the US and India that the entrepreneurial class grows in India." "I am honoured to be at the ISB," he said as he addressed to a group of entrepreneurs in a roundtable at the Atrium of the ISB's Academic Building around 12.30 pm. He spent a little over an hour interacting with the entrepreneurs in a characteristically relaxed and affable manner that charmed the ISB community gathered to witness the occasion. Complementing the ISB on its Centres of Excellence in education, President Bush said that it was a new school using innovative tools to succeed. The President referred to the nuclear agreement reached on Thursday with Prime Minister Manmohan Singh, and said that he was quite "excited about the strategic partnership between the US and India." He spoke about the need of alternative sources of energy for the country's growing needs, which could come from safe civilian nuclear facilities. "When India's economy grows at 8%, you consume a lot of energy. So, it is in global interest that we are concerned about the consumption of that energy," he said. He revealed that he had discussed alternative sources of energy with President Abdul Kalam -- who he thought was 'a good guy' -- the previous day. The discussion centered on the use of bio-mass and ethanol for energy needs in India. He quoted the example of Brazil's use of ethanol in almost 80% of its cars manufactured by General Motors. On the question of free trade, the President said, "We are working towards a free trade agreement, but it is important to get the Doha Round done." With regard to protectionism policy, his comments were, "If you look at the history of the world, protectionism policy leads to recession, and sometimes depression." He complimented India's diversity, saying, "India is a great example of democracy. It is very devout, has diverse religious heads, but everyone is comfortable about their religion. The world needs India," he said. President Bush also had words of praise about Indian education. "Indian schools are doing a good job educating their students in the sciences and math -- the subjects of the 21st century," he said. On the eagerly awaited question of opening a consulate in Hyderabad, the President said "Yes, you have got a deal." He then turned around to look at Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice who was seated to his right, and said, "Now it's up to the Secretary of State to fund it!" He said that having grown up in western Texas, he never thought that they would ever be threatened, but his perceptions about being threatened changed after the September 11 episode. "This had a bearing on visa restrictions to the US, though I know that this has affected Indians." "We don't bear grudges. We actually welcome people, and we want you to know that the US is a great country to be in," he said. URL for this article: http://www.rediff.com//money/2006/mar/03bush2.htm -- TUMCHER AXIRVAD ASSUM; DEV BOREM KORUM. Gabe Menezes. London, England Comment: Gabe says the World needs Goa even more!
Re: [Goanet] "Anyone" on mummification
Maybe Santosh, who has not examined St. FX's remains, yet continues his cynical insinuations that the remains were preserved in some artificial manner, can show us some evidence that someone has asked for permission to examine St. FX's remains and is being denied. Better yet, why doesn't he lead such an effort? > I am a proponent of the notion that sainthood should be restricted to the very rare deserving case, which is why I have publicly opposed the "fast-tracking" of Pope John Paul II's case by direct successors that he appointed, which I think is unconscionable. I would personally support any honest modern analysis of any saint's claim to sainthood. If the shroud of Turin could be examined in such detail, why not St. FX's remains? Our religion hardly depends on fake saints, and those whose faith depends on any saint have totally missed what our religion is all about. > There are many saints whose sainthood would withstand scrutiny by even the most cynical atheists. It is a well known fact that there are saints who were de-certified after evidence showed that they were myths, like Sts. Christopher and Philomena. > --- Santosh Helekar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- Mario Goveia <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > >When you have some facts at your disposal re. St. > FX, > >rather than cynical, sarcastic and after-the-fact > >speculation, I'm sure we'll all be glad to hear of > >these. > > > > That "anyone" should be hired as a Forensic > Pathologist is not speculation. "Anyone" deserves > that > job because he has proved that SFX is not an > Egyptian > mummy. Moreover, he has done it without actually > examining the SFX remains or reading anything about > mummification, Forensic Pathology or SFX. > > The SFX remains have never been subjected to modern > forensic analysis. This can easily be done if the > relevant authorities give the requisite permission. > > For those who are really interested in > mummification, > it would be useful to know that hundreds of other > mummified/saponified bodies have been found all over > the world, many much better preserved than SFX. Some > examples are the Taklamakan mummies of China, the > Greenland mummies, the Chosun Korean mummies and the > Buddhist mummies of Japan. They have been thoroughly > examined and their histological characteristics > noted. > The mummification process, both natural or > artificial, > has been well studied by modern Forensic science. > > Cheers, > > Santosh > >
Re: [Goanet] Re: Goa for Goans
I find it highly amusing that the most ardent proponents of "Goa for Goans", if not "Goa for Portuguese Goans", are diaspora Goans who would not live in Goa if their life depended on it. > --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Response to Floriano. > Vote banks is nothing peculiar to Goa or India. > Under different names, (sometimes called voting > blocks or party base), it is the basis of > democracy and elections. After the election the > group "trades" the banked-votes for social and > economic progress and preferences. >
[Goanet] Goan Catholics denied access to celebrate feasts
http://www.theindiancatholic.com/news_read.asp?nid=1200 Goan Catholics denied access to celebrate feasts Panaji (ICNS) -- Goa's Member of Parliament in Upper House Shantaram Naik has demanded that devotees should be allowed to celebrate two annual Catholic feasts on the Anjediva Island, in keeping with the commitment made when the island was donated by the state government to the Indian Navy. The Church of Our Lady of Springs situated on 1.3-kilometer strategic island of Anjidiva, along the West Indian coast, some 2,030 kilometers south west of New Delhi, was donated in 1991 to defense authorities for Asia's biggest Naval base `Seabird project.' Under the agreement of transfer, civilians would be permitted access to the island during the two days of the island feasts -- February 2 and 4 October -- feasts of Our Lady of Springs and Saint Francis of Assisi respectively. Though efforts to deny access from Navy surfaced in 2002, on 10 July 2004, Rear Admiral Shekhar Sinha, Flag officer Commanding Goa area told presspersons that the Navy would continue to allow pilgrims to visit the church twice a year. However, devotees from Goa who had ventured out on their own to distant Binga, in Karwar were stopped at the entry point, and asked to return back last year. In 2004, Naval authorities granted access to devotees after much haggling, insisting on furnishing names of devotes, allotment of passes, but eventually permitting all devotes from Goa and refusing those from the locality, contending that under the agreement of land transfer only devotees from Goa would be granted entry. However, the following year the island was barred for devotees. Making a special mention in the Rajya Sabha on 1 March, Naik said that despite commitments made by the Indian Navy, devotees are not allowed to celebrate these two feasts. He said, the Church and the chapel existing on the island were not maintained properly by the Navy. He pointed out that even high security zones were open to the public, as a goodwill measure, on occasions like Navy Week, etc. "Project Seabird at Karwar has been no exception, having opened its portals to the entire sundry during Navy Week for the last three years," Naik told the Upper House, adding that peaceful celebration of two traditional feasts could also be handled, without hassle, by the concerned authorities. "If people were allowed to celebrate the feasts, Indian Navy would be honoring the legitimate sentiments of the peace loving Catholic population of Goa," said Naik adding that Archbishop of Goa and Daman has also written to Indian Navy on similar lines. He demanded that the Defense Ministry direct the Indian Navy to allow celebration of the two feasts and to carry the maintenance of the church and the chapel there. Last February, preceding the feasts, the Bajrang Dal, a right wing Hindu group, had threatened that the town of Binga would be in turmoil should Catholics be allowed access to the island. Similar utterances were also made by Pramodh Muttalick, VHP (World Hindu Council) coordinator for South India, who declared in Karwar that if access to the island was granted to Catholics, Hindus should also be given access too because they claim that the island also had some temples. He also threatened to storm the island with 25,000 Hindu activists. Legend has that Goddess Arya Druga Devi was located on the island, but the Goddess sat on a banana leaf and went to Ankola. Hindus claim that a temple dedicated to Arya Druga devi was located in the island. However, no temple was in existence on the island after the Portuguese advent in 1498, and thereafter, even at the time Goa transferred the island to the Defense. Father Britto D'Silva, parish priest of Saint Anne's Church, Binga said: "The island was occupied by beef eating Arabas before the advent of Portuguese in 1498. Now, when the Goddess does not want to stay at Anjidiva, man is making her forcibly sit there." -- TUMCHER AXIRVAD ASSUM; DEV BOREM KORUM. Gabe Menezes. London, England
[Goanet] Electric accidents and Indian quality
Cornel wrote: I noted the sad case of electrocution of the priest when using a mike and it made me wonder why this happens, not irregularly, in Goa/India? Cecil: So it happens regularly? Please let me know the last time you heard of someone being electrocuted by a mike in Goa/India? -- Cornel: Is it that there is no adequate earthing (the earth wire use)? I recall getting a nasty electric shock in a reasonable hotel, next to the Centaur hotel in Bombay, by the airport once, and another at another hotel in Delhi. On both occasions I merely touched a switch for a light to come on. Since then I am wary about any electrical connection when in India, and especially AC noisy machines, which come to life as though they might explode when switched on! My sincere question is why does this happen in India and seemingly nowhere else where I have travelled extensively? Cecil: 1) I have not travelled very extensively and so am not qualified to comment but since my father runs a electrical shop I would like to state that very often it is due to our Indian propensity to take the cheaper option. Use a thinner gauge wire than recommended, buy the cheaper sub-standard fittings, hire a cheaper ill-qualified electrician, etc etc. But things are changing. With economic prosperity people are willing to pay for quality, and the manufacturing and service industries are responding. 2) I would venture to say that you would not have got a shock if you had stayed at better hotels, like the Centaur, except when you paid your bill! 3) A quick cursory search of Goggle brought me two statistics: http://www.ferret.com.au/articles/e3/0c0373e3.asp Is Australia gradually catching up with industrialised nations? We think so. I've seen figures from the Office of Fair Trading in New South Wales, which reports that during 2004 there were 10 fatal electrical accidents and 165 non-fatal electrical accidents reported. These figures are similar to 2002, when 10 deaths and 175 non-fatal electrical accidents were recorded. http://www.rospa.com/homesafety/advice/electricity/accidents.htm During 2002 , there were a total of 27 deaths involving electric current in the UK. Of these, 24 occurred in England and Wales1, 2 in Scotland2, and 1 in Northern Ireland3. --- Cornel: Another point worth making is that the sancharanet server barely works when used from here. I have been forced to send my unreached email messages by postal delivery to make sure the recepient gets them, not just once, but several times! Cecil: Sancharnet sucks. The market responds to a vacuum. Private players are offering competitive rates and services. There is a choice provided one is willing to pay for it. I have high speed broadband access at my home in Miramar for just an all-inclusive Rs. 500/- a month. And there is a Rs. 250/- package too. And this is a Government service! Where in the world can you get broadband so cheap? -- Cornel: So once again, I ask, what on earth is going on in an India which is supposedly at the cusp of economic supremacy? Cecil: You don't judge a country by a few stray electric shocks. -- Cornel: An expensive clock I purchase in Margao gave up the ghost six months later. It was unrepairable at this end and had to be thrown out. Also, a suitcase and a pair of sunglasses fell apart in next to no time. Cecil: Good in-expensive brand name clocks like Orpat and Ajanta all come with a one year warranty. VIP suitcases are exported world wide. GKB Opthalmics (based in Goa) exports high quality optical lens worldwide. --- Cornel: An Indian gentleman I met in Canada recently, and who produces concrete pipes in Mumbai for his family firm said that, the concept of quality is not something Indian firms understand or are concerned about! Is this true? Cecil: Please tell your Indian gentleman (of the family firm) not to generalise. People expect quality and low-price simultaneously. Not possible. One has to compromise the other. There are very high quality products and cheap low quality products available. The choice is yours. --- Cornel: I accept that there is quality work done on the software front and the health front because otherwise, India would not have been able to develop health tourism to the extent it does nor get so much software development from outside firms. Nevertheless, I believe I am expressing some genuine concern as dispassionately as possible and when quite seriously wanting India to do well as a global power and hopefully, beat the hell out of some Western nations which have it good for too long. Cecil: I appreciate your genuine concern and despite my skepticism of your perspective most of the points you have raised are fair to a certain degree. But times are a changing and so are providers and consumers. The consumer now has a better income and is demanding quality and is willing to pay for it. The manufacturers are making quality products
[Goanet] INFOMERCIAL CHALLENGES CLEAR THINKING
In today's HERALD there is an infomercial taken out by the "Hoteliers Association of South Goa" purportedly in "the public interest" and titled "Save Dabolim Save Goa". It is strange that the association of 34 members is explicitly one of SOUTH Goa but it now claims to be fighting for Goa as a WHOLE. It (the Association) is supposed to have been formed in 2000 (maybe after the decision was taken in March that year to set up Mopa and close Dabolim). It claims to have submitted a memo warning the state gov against going ahead with Mopa. Thus the mission of the Association clearly seems to be more of "Stop Mopa" than "Save Dabolim". The present infomercial is stated to be the first in a series of articles to "educate Goa govt and the people" about the damage Mopa will cause to the tourism industry. The piece consists of four "Impressions" and the associated "Realities". We will not go into details about the veracity of the Association's analysis. But there are two clear impressions that one is left with by the Association's effort. Specific Impression #1: The Association has clearly let the Navy off the hook at Dabolim. "The airport is clearly underutilised", it points out. There is no mention of slot restrictions at prime daylight hours and the high-frequency operational needs of low cost carriers from Goa's high-value "catchment" areas viz the IT etc crowd of Mumbai, Pune, Bangalore, Hyderabad, Cochin, Delhi and Ahmedabad. In this stance it parts ways with Churchill who has repeatedly called for the shift of the Navy out of Dabolim. Specific Impression # 2: Churchill has however (today itself) echoed the Association's point that ATCs at Dabolim and Mopa will not be able to coordinate and this would increase the probability of a collision between aircraft. So a neat confusion of the question about whether Churchill and the Association are on the same side or not. If details of the Association's statement are somehow made available on Goanet we will take up other issues for discussion --- "in the public interest"! Cheers.
[Goanet] Miraculous escape for 11 jeep occupants
http://oheraldo.in/node/10502 Miraculous escape for 11 jeep occupants BY HERALD REPORTER MARGAO, MARCH 2 - A group of 11 people from Velim, who were proceeding to Mandur, had a miraculous escape after the Toyota Qualis jeep (GA 02 J 9589) in which they were travelling rammed on an electric pole on the Abade Faria road here on Thursday evening. The jeep driver, Kennedy Fernandes, resident of Velim, was shifted to Goa Medical College Hospital, Bambolim with chest injuries. Other occupants of the jeep who sustained minor injuries were Antonetta Fernandes, Presila Fernandes, Assuciana Fernandes, Amelia Simoes, Gracy Fernandes, Joanna Fernandes, Inacinha Simoes, a four-year-old boy Baliton, Santan Fernandes (55) and Joaquina Fernandes (60). They were later discharged after administering first aid, the police said. According to Margao police, the jeep driver lost control of the vehicle when a two-wheeler entered the main road from the Metropole road. The jeep later crashed against the electric pole and the adjoining compound wall. The nearby residents immediately alerted the police and the fire brigade as the occupants of the ill-fated jeep cried for help. The Electricity Department too was summoned to order a power shutdown in the locality as a precautionary measure. The police said the occupants of the jeep were proceeding to Mandur for a religious worship. -- TUMCHER AXIRVAD ASSUM; DEV BOREM KORUM. Gabe Menezes. London, England Comment: Rash driving? bad tyres, badly maintained vehicles or drivers have poor knowledge of driving!
[Goanet] Thieves target Margao’s old court bui lding
http://oheraldo.in/node/10496 Thieves target Margao's old court building BY HERALD REPORTER MARGAO, MARCH 2 - Margao's old court building became the latest target of thieves on Wednesday night. Court officials and staff were taken aback on Thursday morning when they found the lock of the office door cut open by some miscreants. The miscreants also made an abortive bit to break open the main door, the police said. The incident took the police by surprise, with the men-in-uniform wondering whether the miscreant barged inside the building at night or had stayed put inside the premises during the evening. Court staffers and members of the legal fraternity were baffled with the incident, with many seeking to know how the miscreants could enter the Temple of Justice to commit the theft. Immediately after the incident came to light this morning, court officials took stock of any missing files from the office. Court Superintendent, Filomena Fernandes, lodged a complaint with the Margao police later this evening. -- TUMCHER AXIRVAD ASSUM; DEV BOREM KORUM. Gabe Menezes. London, England
[Goanet] ‘Goa, Kargil operations matter of c oincidence’
http://oheraldo.in/node/10497 'Goa, Kargil operations matter of coincidence' BY HERALD REPORTER PANJIM, MarCH 2 - Naming of two army operations, namely, Goa Liberation in 1961 and the Operation of Indian Army carried out to repel the Pakistani Army attack in Kargil Sector , a few years back, as "Vijay Operation" is a "matter of coincidence", Union Minister for Defence Shri Pranab Mukerjee informed Mr Shantaram Naik in the Rajya Sabha today. Mr. Naik had sought to know from the Minister reasons behind giving one code name to two distinct army operations. To another question, Union Minister of State for Home said Goa and Karnataka governments were alerted by the Central Government regarding the plan by the terrorists outfit Laskar-e-Taiba or any other Group or organisation to blow up Kaiga Atomic Power Plant reservoirs and power stations around Karwar District in Karnataka. -- TUMCHER AXIRVAD ASSUM; DEV BOREM KORUM. Gabe Menezes. London, England
[Goanet] Tension grips Sanvordem as Muslim prayer house is razed
http://mail.google.com/mail/?auth=DQAAAG4AAAB6_uIfn9mUsJS8OsKaXipks7K4DgZpfEauDTABCqWNkA7wt6zbaA3nsErkJTnRdRdHIivovj_y2JO5A3dYzKZPga3aSmYeJWN7wzEwu6uqwrN3BLRzXi3c7xk-n2T_smlWDP1uizEzYPJCSW3VWcuk Tension grips Sanvordem as Muslim prayer house is razed HERALD CORRESPONDENT CURCHOREM, MARCH 2 — A Muslim prayer house illegally constructed on government land at Guddamol-Sanvordem was razed by some local youth on Wednesday night, sparking off tension in the area. Sayyad Ashraf, who claimed to be the president of the local organisation Aheli Sunnat Jamalul Islamiya, informed Curchorem police that the prayer house, which existed for the past 35 years, had been renovated recently. The structure, which was also to be used as a 'madrassa' (school) and a prayer hall, was demolished by some local youth, the complainant stated. Acting on the complaint, Curchorem police arrested seven persons, Pramod S Shirodkar (29), Vishwas M Diwar (24), Nandan X Naik (33), Prakash R Naik (24), Subhash B Naik (33), Manjunath T Wadar (56) and Jitendra B Naik, all from Guddamol, on charges of forming an unlawful assembly, pelting stones and hurting the religious sentiments of another community. The sensitive issue prompted South Goa SP Shekhar Prabhudessai and Quepem DySP Jaiprakash Nagvekar to visit Curchorem police station on Sunday night to take stock of the situation. On Thursday morning, 100-odd people stood outside the police station, demanding the release of the arrested persons. They dispersed only when the accused were released by the Sanguem court in the evening. To beef up police presence in the area, Canacona PI S Ekoskar and Cuncolim PI Siddhant Shirodkar and their respective police teams were sent to Curchorem. Sanguem Mamlatdar Vinayak Volvoikar was also present at the site. Sanvordem Sarpanch Baptist Fernandes told Herald that the demolished structure had been illegally constructed on government property. Responding to complaints from locals regarding the prayer house, the Sanvordem sarpanch said the panchayat has issued several notices to Anarbi Adam Khan, who had constructed the structure. "Finally, a demolition notice was issued to the party, who however obtained a stay order from the Deputy Director of Panchayats. A copy of the stay order was received by the panchayat only this morning," Fernandes said. -- TUMCHER AXIRVAD ASSUM; DEV BOREM KORUM. Gabe Menezes. London, England
[Goanet] ‘Hold meet to discuss poultry industr y issues’
http://oheraldo.in/node/10499 'Hold meet to discuss poultry industry issues' BY HERALD REPORTER PANJIM, MARCH 2 — The Department of Animal Husbandry has recommended to the Chief Secretary that a meeting with the State Task Force should be held in the next couple of days to discuss issues pertaining to the poultry industry following the threat of bird flu. Speaking to Herald, Naik said that so far there have been no cases of bird flu in Goa. However, we are prepared to face the situation. Lifting off the ban on the imports of chicken and poultry products from other States is also to be discussed at the meeting, according to Naik. The National Egg Coordination Committee (NECC), which met the director today claimed that the poultry farmers have incurred heavy losses in the last eight to ten days. The NECC has asked the director to consider giving a support price to poultry farmers. Naik said that he is thinking of proposing this to the Government. However, no assurance could be given as of now. He said that a survey will have to be done to see the extent of the losses. For this, we will also have to take help from other departments, he said. Meanwhile, the Animal Husbandry Department is in the process of collecting serum samples from the poultry farms. The samples will be sent for testing to the High Security Laboratory, Bhopal, said Naik. -- TUMCHER AXIRVAD ASSUM; DEV BOREM KORUM. Gabe Menezes. London, England
[Goanet] Caption Contest - a few clarifications
Thanks for the enthusiastic response to the Caption Contest. I would just like to clarify: 1) Multiple entries are permitted. One person can send more than one caption as long as it is sent as a separate e-mail. 2) Please send entries to <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> and NOT my Sancharnet address. 3) Please clearly mention the NAME and CURRENT LOCATION of the contributor. I do not want to assume this from an e-mail address that could be shared by more than one person. 4) One contributor has given the name and address where the flower arrangement might be sent! While admiring his/her confidence in winning the prize I would like to make it clear that EXPRESSIONS does allow the facility of flowers being delivered anonymously, we need to have the full name and coordinates of the sender for our records. These will be kept confidential and not be revealed. Please check http://www.goa-world.com/goa/expressions/faq.htm to know how we operate. 5) For those who missed out on the earlier announcement below is the original: Please check out the Carnival Parades photo at: http://www.goa-world.com/goa/carnival06/p1020068.jpg Think of a good caption (not too long please!) and send it to <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> along with your name and current location. Winner of the best caption will be awarded a free delivery of a basket of flowers (worth Rs. 500/-) anywhere in Goa. Names of the senders of all captions will be made public. Your e-mail address will not be revealed. if you wish your name also not to be revealed then please indicate so. Please forward this Contest Announcement to anyone you think might be interested. Cheers! Cecil =
Re: [Goanet] RE: Churchil has hidden agenda, accuses Faleiro
--- Philip Thomas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Nowhere in the report is there any reference to the > "hidden agenda" which > Churchill is accused of by Luizinho. It is my gut-feeling that the likes of Luizinho and Rane somehow feel intimidated by the armed forces, something that has not affected Churchill thus far, hence the promotion of a greenfield site rather than ruffle the feathers of the "predators" that sit at Dabolim. Cheers, Gabriel de Figueiredo. Melbourne - Australia. Do you Yahoo!? Never miss an Instant Message - Yahoo! Messenger for SMS http://au.mobile.yahoo.com/mweb/index.html
[Goanet] ... Says Ingo, wife illegally acquired company shares
http://oheraldo.in/node/10501 ... Says Ingo, wife illegally acquired company shares BY HERALD REPORTER PANJIM, MARCH 2 — Explaining undesirability of Ingo Grill and his wife, the State Government charged that Ingo and Maria illegally acquired shares in Goa Adventure Company Pvt Ltd, and Saturday Night Bazar Pvt Ltd, registered in December 14, 1996 and January 24, 2002 respectively. They had not sought permission from the Reserve Bank of India, the Government said in its affidavit. The Goa Adventure Company Pvt Ltd, registered with two Indians as directors, namely Sameer Bandodkar and Rajshree Bandodkar. In 2002, the said directors transferred their shares to Grill and Maria. The Government said their induction and acquisition of shares in the company is not legal, carried out without RBI permission, as well as in violation of provisions of the Foreign Exchange Management Act, 1999. Similarly, Saturday Night Bazar Co, was formed by the duo with two Indians as directors, namely Shankarlal Bairwa and Mamta Bairwa. The State Government held that with them being already directors in previously registered company, they could not have acquired share in the said company, and so this acquisition is also illegal. -- TUMCHER AXIRVAD ASSUM; DEV BOREM KORUM. Gabe Menezes. London, England
[Goanet] Do not be rude
http://oheraldo.in/comment/reply/10522 Do not be rude Dr (Mrs) E Abreu, Assagao This is with reference to Josephine Richardson's letter "Treat us as equals'' Herald 27/2/2006. Ms Richardson should realise that the antipathy growing against the white skinned tourist is mainly because of their behaviour and the dilution of the Goan ethos, by them. Most of us resent their 'high and mighty' attitude of the average tourist. They do not respect our laws – drive recklessly on two wheelers without wearing helmets, throw their garbage into our fields, and treat us as if we our second class citizens in our own state. They have brought in the drug menace and paedophillia and they have taken over the prime beach fronts in north Goa. In 1981 when I visited England I was asked whether I was going to Scotland or Wales, in a very rude manner. I told the female immigration officer that I had a tourist visa for the UK – I presumed that covered Scotland and Wales. She retorted "we WOGS like to sneak into the country.'' She then asked me wait in caged enclosure for a virginity test despite me telling her that I was a mother of three. She then sent me to another official who read me a lecture on "unschooled Indians coming to their country in droves'', despite my passport showing that I was a doctor in medicine. Recently I was nearly knocked down by a helmetless, bare chested white skinned rider on a two wheeler who shouted "black devil get out of the way'' instead of apologizing. If you are suffering rudeness it is a reaction to the general treatment we get in our own land, from the whites. You claim you employ Goans probably as domestic help but back home you would probably not be able to employ a charwoman or maid. Why are you on an extended visa? Would we be allowed to get one in your country of origin? -- TUMCHER AXIRVAD ASSUM; DEV BOREM KORUM. Gabe Menezes. London, England
[Goanet] Govt can deport foreigners sans reason
Govt can deport foreigners sans reason BY HERALD REPORTER http://oheraldo.in/node/10500 PANJIM, MARCH 2 — The State Government has made it clear stating that it can order deportation of any foreigner in India if it finds that his/her stay is not desirable and that the deportation order can be passed without assigning any reason under the Foreigners Act. This was stated in an affidavit filed by the State Government before the Fast Track Court in connection with the deportation of German national Ingo Grill of Saturday Night Bazaar fame and his Canadian wife Maria Brotherton. The State Government on February 1, 2006 had ordered deportation of Ingo and Maria under Section 3 (2) (c) of Foreigner's Act, 1946. They were ordered to leave India by February 18, 2006, order which is now challenged before the Fast Track Court of North Goa, praying that it be set aside. Foreigners are allowed entry and stay in India at the pleasure of the Government, the affidavit said stressing that no fundamental rights are available to foreigners. "The protection of rights guaranteed by Article 19 of the Constitution of India is not available to the plaintiffs, who have been carrying on illegal business, which is also furthering drugs and narcotics activities in the region". Locals have also opposed business activities of Mr Grill, which has been resulting in traffic problem in the area. As a result, police personnel have been deployed to man the traffic, the affidavit said. While hearing on this case has been adjourned till March 9, Adv Emrico Alfonso appearing on behalf of the State argued that court should pass an order stopping business (Saturday Night Bazaar) of Mr Grill until next hearing. The defence counsel has sought time to his file reply. -- TUMCHER AXIRVAD ASSUM; DEV BOREM KORUM. Gabe Menezes. London, England
[Goanet] Fw: Download the Wallpaper/Calender for March 2006
http://www.goa-world.com/goa/expressions/calendar/index.htm Click on the thumbnail for the full 1024x768 pixels image. Right Click on the image Set as Background Forward the link to a friend! Cheers! Cecil === COMMENT: Excellent pixs, Cecil Compliments to Edson Dias!! I wish you could add a caption - For example Feb 2006 - Barge on Mandovi with Panaji's Altinho in the background. Mar 2006 - Rear view of Milagres Church, Mapusa. As you can tell I don't know where Jan 2006 is. I wonder if the bloke pays anybody rent for his booth carved into the rock..:-)
[Goanet] DTH TV in Goa
Sonia launched DTH TV in Goa -- is this available for individual households? "Sonia launches DTH Scheme PANJIM: The UPA chairperson Sonia Gandhi yesterday launched "Knowledge of Power", a unique scheme of the Goa government for providing DTH-TV sets to village panchayats and socio-cultural organisation. Sonia Gandhi commended the state government for introducing the scheme for empowering people of Goa with knowledge, and said that it was the first of its kind in the country. (GT)" Thanks & Cheers Aloysius D'Souza
