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[Goanet] Re: Goa's education conundrum: English or mothertongue, choice isn't yours
Since the academic year 1962-63, 'liberated' Goa has had English medium education. If the BJP speaks of 'degeneration' today, it would do well to remember that at least its Mapusa MLA has done all his schooling in English medium..and survived in politics to join that party with a difference. He has even followed the BJP dictates to lead a stone throwing mob [with most of the persons 'educated' in Marathi medium in the primary schools] that damaged the hotel owned by his former school mate and his family. The Catholic institutions [ run by DSE and ABE] will dump their pedagogy and shift willingly to the English medium. It is all about money, honey. The opening of privately-run un-aided English medium schools will put greater pressure to dump the dubious pedagogy of the mother tongue in a babel of dialectsand scripts. That the Bible in Konkani has come in the non- official script and dialect only strengthens my point of view. Once sense has prevailed over ego and chauvinism, the next generation of children can hope to 1.avoid drop out in Std.V due to shift in language of instruction. 2.Write at least a few sentences in grammatically correct English with the correct spellings. 3. speak correct English and become employable in Goa, India or elsewhere in the world. 4.love to speak their mother tongue without the hatred caused by the compulsion to write unfamiliar dialect in an unfamiliar script at age of five and half years. Viva Goa.Say it with feni. MIGUEL BRAGANZA, Mhapsa Horticulturist/ Editor _ Do not post admin requests to the list. Goanet mailing list (Goanet@goanet.org)
[Goanet] Journalism not a PR's job but a conviction of what you write
Journalism not a PR's job but a conviction of what you write By Armstrong Vaz Accountability, transparency, communication and presentation hold the keys to any successful organization. No second thoughts on that count. Many a fabric of an organization breaks when some members deviate from the set goals and push things under the carpet. Things are the carpet for a much higher personal goal or a personal stake or a bigger slice of the greater pie. An excellent presentation by a presenter of accounts turns the heat away from any fraudulent dealings. Account frauds are overlooked if they are well presented which some people have made a habit. It differs from one system to another system and from person to person. If the presentation of the accounts is bad then Good intentions turn into bad presentation of accounts. In some organizations fraudulent accounts are overlooked and fraudulent members support the fraudulent intentions in the greater pie. I am relating here the instances where funds collection made in foreign countries have not reached the destination it was collected. During the Konkani agitation a collection drive in the Gulf landed in the personal pockets of one Velsao based politician and football promoter. Many ostriches sping up from the sands to flaunt themselves as advisors on topics they have no insight or knowledge. One such ostrich I encountered last week was trying to stifle the very voice of journalism and the journalistic basics. An outrageous advice to me, on a report published by me in a newspaper. Does he think journalists are PR man for a social organisation. A journalist gets paid by his office to do a journalist job. A PR job is best done by a PR man who gets paid to create the hype and hyperbole of a company individual or organization. A journalist writes what is seen from larger perspective, Keeping his individual opinion and ideology far way from him. A journalist has larger role in society that of a reformer, informer, educationist, critic and a voice of helpless and down trodden. His roles differ from society countries, communities and environment he has to work in. Whether it maybe in the war zone, a sting operation or an organization which promises to deliver something on the face of it but does the opposite underneath. I found the suggestion outrageous was for the simple reason. A person who did have his facts wrong was making the suggestion. Advising me that I should not have mentioned where the funds of the event would be channelised. A fact which he himself did not know was the organizers had clearly mentioned that the proceeds of the show would go for the orphan children of Goa in their earlier news report. Then again he pointed that the tickets prize should not have been mentioned, when on the contrary the price of the tickets was made public domain. Did not the organisers hold the people at ransom threatening to raise the price of the ticket by double after a certain date? I have refrained form reporting that, that would have been in bad taste. Then he should also have read reports in the Goa press that the organizers later on released, mentioning that the funds will be given to girls orphan children in Goa which of the organization they sought to give remains a mystery till now and what about the funds that they have given for charity over the last six years is a million dollar question. Will they come clean on the issue? Accountability and transparency are the keys to any organization. Tickets for any dance or event do not count for the final profits ranked in. The sponsors hold the key, that is child's play. No need to sermonize on the issue my friends. There should be no Doubting Thomases. The dealing must be transparent and over board. The documents should be available for public scrutiny. Instances have occurred when many have siphoned funds in the name of the poor and gullible people. Religious teachings teach us that if you are hungry and if you rob to satisfy your hunger, the sin is condoned. But it is sacrilegious to take the help of the helpless poor for a ride. During my more than a decade and half of career starting from my college days I have not encountered such an outrageous advice, advice coloured by friendship and chicanery. What is good for the e magazine does not hold good for print media, remember my friend. I am still learning as I believe you learn as long as you live. Save a thought for journalists working in war zone areas and under stringent conditions while we read newspapers and watch TV pictures beamed by them. Sitting as we are in the cozy comfort of our sitting room. So journalism is a challenge and courage of conviction. Conviction of what you write, and writing facts not rumours and not a PR's job. _ Do not post admin requests to the list. Goanet mailing list (Goanet@goanet.org)
[Goanet] Dubai Terrorism
Mario seems to be very sure that Dubai is funding terrorist organisations. He probably has access to reliable sources. One hopes these are not the same sources that Bush depended on for information about Iraqi WMD. Unfortunately many western articles published in reputed magazines like Forbes carry a lot of blatant untruths and contradictions. Like the one below: http://www.forbes.com/business/2006/02/24/dubai-ports-new-city- cx_daa_0224dubai.html I quote The miles-long waterfront (of New Dubai) on the Persian Gulf is shared by the sprawling colossus of Jebel Ali, a port facility where huge container ships from throughout the world dock, and Port Rashid--both heavily guarded fortresses surrounded by electrified barbed wire and patrolled around the clock. I have worked inside the Jebel Ali Port Free Zone for the best part of the last 17 years and know that the fencing is NOT electrified and there is NO patrolling at all, let alone patrolling around the clock. Why would the Port Free Zone need to be patrolled when, and I quote from the same article And clearly the sheikh is also not afraid. The miles of palaces belonging to the ruling family that mark long stretches of Dubai's glistening sand beaches are all but unpatrolled, the gates standing nonchalantly open on a leisurely Friday. It is true that the sheikhs of Dubai are known to boast Why should we be afraid. We have no enemies. But then the Emiratis are clearly doing a good job of cultivating friends. The UAE like all responsible Arab regimes have been major benefactors of the Palestinian cause. To the Israelis all Palestinians are terrorists. But all right thinking individuals around the world will agree that the aggressors are in fact the Israelis. The UAE in general and Dubai in particular is focussing on eliminating regional imbalances by investing in various port, real estate and tourism ventures to boost regional economies from Morocco to Yemen and Pakistan. This is indeed a very pragmatic approach to building economic bridges across this troubled and imbalanced region. As long as this pragmatic approach is followed there is little reason why the deprived and marginalised of the region or others with an axe to grind should want to target Dubai or the UAE. Till then Dubai ports and palaces will remain unpatrolled and Sheikh Mo (as he is popularly referred to by Westerne expats) will be found strolling unguarded through the Bur Juman shopping mall.until the Yankees terrorrists decide they cannot bear it any longer. _ Do not post admin requests to the list. Goanet mailing list (Goanet@goanet.org)
[Goanet] RE: *** Goa wants expats to leave (Pushpa Iyengar in DNA)
Dear Mr. Noronha, Being of Goan origin, I felt ashamed to read the article by some Pushpa Iyengar on Goa wants expats to leave. Normal people would have been happy to see that foreigners like Goa so much that they have adopted it as their own homeland. I think that the people in Goa have just gone crazy and lack totally any sense of business. Has anybody even thought that these business-minded foreigners are bringing in more foreigners to Goa and consequently dollars and Euros? Or may be Goa and India have enough dollars and Euros and consequently can live on their own (without the need for imports. Looking at the foreign products being sold in Goa and in India, I believe that it would be difficult to do without foreign goods). Reading the vast number of reports on tourism in Goa, I understand that there is a lot of effort to increase the number of foreign tourists in Goa and in India. I must say that the article by Pushpa Iyengar, is just telling the foreigners (those that probably planned to visit Goa) that Goa is not happy to see them. How can the Goan authorities accept such articles which are totally against the Government's strategy to improve tourism or I am possibly mistaken? If the Iyengar's article reflects the real position of Goans in general, then there is definitely a great need in Goa to have people trained to work and think positively. If a Goan married to a foreign national is the one who has raised the question, then it clearly means that he wants to get rid of the partner in a Goan diplomatic way. However, living in Europe and hearing so much about the great things that are happening in Goa, I thought the people in Goa would behave better as far as hospitality is concerned. But sometimes people are mistaken There are lots of things that the Goan Government could do to improve life in Goa rather than trying to make things difficult to foreigners. I have been in Goa in March and was positively surprised to see a number of improvements. However, these are not properly maintained and implemented. For example, the yellow road marking on the way to Gaspar Dias beach from Panaji is used as a decoration piece and not as an indication that people should not drive over it. The Government could raise its income by putting some policemen to check on the people not respecting the traffic objectives. It is only then that people will start to learn. This applies to all roads in Goa. Another example is the road safety barriers. Looking at their quality, they should only be used as pedestrian road restraint systems or decoration pieces. There are lots of things that need to be improved still -- Read all Goanet messages @ http://www.goanet.org/archive.php?name=Newslist=goanet _ Do not post admin requests to the list. Goanet mailing list (Goanet@goanet.org)
[Goanet] reply to Jerry
The musicians are highly underpaid for the service they render. I am a base guitarist and like to play live. There lot of groups in goa using synchronised base patterns and even the full song music can be got from a good quality keyboards so why does anybody require to pay a live performer when people seem satisfied with the stuff programmed. You may find a guitarist just miming for a living. There are hardly a handful of trumpeteers or saxophonists with enough stamina to last a three hour show. Whereas a keyboard player can give a one man show if hes a good singer. The public also does not demand but are prepared to cons a huge sums of money which usually goes for the sound system labour and transport . Gone are the days of the brass bands. But they are still not dead. I know at least 6 brass bands which can dish out good music if you are prepared to pay a handsome price.-Jeff _ Do not post admin requests to the list. Goanet mailing list (Goanet@goanet.org)
[Goanet] semper fidelis (conspiracy of the Pintos)
SEMPER FIDELIS (To a loyal horse) by MARCOS GOMES CATAO Hail to thee, fiery white steed Unexcelled the gallantry of thine unsung deed Who nobler than thee, high-spirited charger, More reliable than the stoutest armour. The unmatched fleetness of thy limbs Helped evade the foe catch a glimpse Of thy master they sought to seize Vengefully to torture by slow degrees. In the dead of night thy fluttering mane Trustworthier than a high placed vane And thine eyes with the force of a torch Steered thee safe to the homely porch Day after day thou kindled faith In the betrayed fighter in dire strait Carrying the victuals to hold his strength No matter the ordeal endured no length Thwarting their vigil with alert ears Thru' months that dragged on as years To the day they scented his lair That had driven them to despair That odious day they put him to death And gleefully buried his handsome head Not far, under a plain white Cross Where thou couldst grieve thy loss. Grim reminder too to his sore mother Watching disconsolate atop the balcony They'd relentlessly smother Any kind of dark conspiracy Sublime tha lesson of thy constancy So contrasting with the vile treachery Of who conspired but held not fast In dignity to the very last. AUTHOR'S NOTE: The horse referred to above was depicted in a huge mural in one of the rooms at my mother's house in Candolim. When children, we were told that, when the CONJURACAO dos PINT OS(PINTO CONSPRACY) was discovered and aborted, Lt. Manoel Caetano Pinto(my maternal great grand uncle, a key conspirator and the horseman on the white horse) fled to the nearby hills and the horse would come back every day, in the dead of night, to fetch food for him. This was, of course, an apocryphal story as Manoel Caetano had no time to flee and was apprehended almost immediately. However, the part referring to the mother and the Cross may hold a grain of truth. As per tradition of the time, in the case of persons condemned for crimes of lese majeste (high treason against the king), on the appointed day of the execution, Manoel Caetano's feet were tied to a horse's tail and the horse was taken all over the city of Old Goa until arriving at the site of execution, where his hands were cut off and then he was hanged. After death, he was decapitated and the rest of the body quartered. The hand and parts were then mounted on swords and taken by horsemen to the district capitals and villages of origin of the culprits. There they were impaled on wooden poles for the populace to see what happens to those that try to rise up It is possible, therefore, that his head or some part was buried under the Cross. The Cross must still be there in the curve of the road from the house to the church. It was there in l982 when I last visited Candolim. The insignia on the epaulettes indicate the rider of the white horse was, in fact, Lt. Col. Francisco Caetano Pinto (Manoel Caetano's elder brother and my maternal great grand father) who, along with his other brother, Lt.Col. Antonio Caetano Pinto militated in the Peshwa's army in Poona, fighting against the British until the final defeat of the Peshwas at Sholapur in l8l8, when both returned to Goa. Lt.Col.Francisco Caetano Pinto fought with great valour against the British, who, nevertheless, awarded him an annual pension of Rs2500/(currency value of l8l8) in recognition of his having saved the life of two British soldiers, Hunter and Morrison, who had been made prisoners by the Mahrattas and were being prepared to be put to death. Lt. Col. Antonio Caetano Pinto was left for dead on the battlefield but recovered. The British, his foes on the battlefield, offered him a post in their administration because of his great learning(he had studied in Lisbon, Paris and Rome and was fluent in French and Italian), and his specialized knowledge of agriculture. But he turned down the post, as well as another offered by the Goa Governor as Professor at the newly opened Military Academy in Goa. He dedicated himself to agriculture and was the first to introduce mills for producing sugar from sugar-cane at Saligao. I have not yet read the books but am told that two British authors spoke of them :GRANT-DUFF in 'History of the Mahrattas' and WALLACE in 'Memories of India'. Sadly, the valuable l8th century mural (valuable historically and artistically, not monetarically) was totally destroyed when the nuns demolished the house to build their present hospital there, though they did preserve the entrance gate with the encrusted coat-of-arms. Fortunately, I have been able to salvage a moth eaten photo of the mural though, being in black and white (colour photography had not yet been invented in the 30s) , much of the majesty has
[Goanet] Re: Journalism in Portuguese India 1821-1961
Absolutely, Constantino's father is from Fontainhas, Panaji, the capital city of Goa. Perhaps, Gabriel Figueiredo even knows his grandfather, Carlos Xavier. Constantino speaks Portuguese because he has grown up in Lisbon...perhaps that is what Gabriel calls Portuguese extraction ;-)). He was the boy who co-ordinated the celebration the World Goa Day in 2004 before coming to Delhi for higher studies. People in Goa will remember his column in the Rajan Narayan's Goan Observer Viva Goa. Say it with feni. Miguel Date: Tue, 6 Jun 2006 09:35:00 +0200 From: Jorge/Livia de Abreu Noronha Hello Gabriel! Why do you say that Constantino is of Portuguese extraction? His father is Goan and his mother is German. Maybe (I'm not sure) he was born in Portugal. Jorge _ Do not post admin requests to the list. Goanet mailing list (Goanet@goanet.org)
[Goanet] Re: Of Feasts Four-anna Feiras
Valmiki Faleiro wrote: Goa's truly pioneering entrepreneur, Ratnakar Rau, a Mangalorean who set up, among other things, power plants, ice plants, rice and oil mills, even the famous *Kakoda Farms.* Comment: That is as it should be. One should appreciate the talent and the hard work of a person, from wherever he may be. The legacy of the Kakoda Farms is carried forward almost single-handedly by Mr. G.D. Alphonso, the father of Fr. Ave Maria Alphonso [Editor of 'Dor Mhoinachi Rotti' and Assistant Editor of the POVITR PUSTOK , incidentally, released on the fesat day of Holy Spirit], Nevil Alphonso [Agriculture Officer and Author of Nal'lachi Lagvodd a easy to read book in Konkani on Coconut cultivation] and Adv. Peter Alphonso I am at a loss to understand why Valmiki cannot appreciate the entrepreneurship of the later day migrants from Karnataka. In due course they will create a legacy like that of Ratnakar Rau, if not eclipse it entirely. There is one Raj Verma in Fondvem-Ribandar who came as a site supervisor of UP Bridges Corporation while it was constructing the Mandovi Bridge and Fatorda stadium in 1990. He is a big time builder now. One of the newer Goans, Vijay Mallya, is internationally famous. So is Dr.Claude Alvares[ also from Mangalore] and Fr. Pratap Naik SJ and Comrade Christopher Fonseca. Hard work should be appreciated and those who work hard emulated. So what if they speak a language we do not understand, they do not understand our language, too. Yet, we expect to be respected without reciprocating?? Viva Goa. Miguel _ Do not post admin requests to the list. Goanet mailing list (Goanet@goanet.org)
[Goanet] Re: Why stray dogs always will be a problem in Goa !!
Hi Goanetters, Stray dogs is not the problem in Goa - PEOPLE OF GOA ARE. Here is an example: A person in our village (expat of Dubai) bought a dog to guard his wealth and this is the truth. His neighbour not to be outdone bought two dogs to guard his workshop. His neighbour got a b*tch (free of course) but she can't feed herself let alone the dog. Suddenly there is an influx of dogs in our village, and they make a racket at night. One night I was woken up by cries - as if a person was being strangled, in the morning when I enquired no one had heard anything, upon my fifth enquiry I was told that a particular dog does that when it gets fits. Do dogs and Goans live in 'Harmony' in Goa, and 5:1 does not realise that there is a problem? Afra. _ Do not post admin requests to the list. Goanet mailing list (Goanet@goanet.org)
[Goanet] Stray Dogs
Stray dogs in our markets. The sickly stray dogs and cats in our markets is a common sight. It would be advisable for our health department in the interest of public health to start a mobile unit to sterilise and innoculate all the animals in the villages and to destroy the stray ones. It is common practice to leave the unwanted kittens and puppies in the markets which is the root of the problem. In almost every country there is a voluntary service known as the SPCA (society for the prevention of cruelty to animals). The mobile units visit places as per a fixed schedule and the unwanted animals are collected and put to sleep or arranged for adoption. Easily said but the effort involves a lot of management and finance including a hospital, mobile trucks and staff. Our hope that the minister for health and industries takes the lead. Tom de Sousa in Hong Kong. _ Do not post admin requests to the list. Goanet mailing list (Goanet@goanet.org)
Re: [Goanet] Goan Association U.K., Ruby Anniversary. (1)
Gabe Menezes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 1966 was a good year, perhaps an omen, portending England winning the World Cup again? Besides England winning the World Cup, our very own Goan, Rita Faria was crowned Miss World, bringing joy and honour not only to Goans but to the whole of India! The Goan Association Committee having been formed, moved swiftly to organize functions. The most notable was the Dance at Cumberland Place; we were warned not to bring any cameras along as there was a special guest appearance. Needless to say we were all expecting Miss World, I was quite sceptical as to how much clout our newly formed committee would have, to actually deliver. The day arrived and lo and behold - there was Rita Faria - a statuesque figure. Gabe, Rita Faria made an appearance at the Dar es Salaam Institute in 1966 or 1967. I was more interested in playing on the swings at the club then and did not get to see her. If I am not mistaken, she also was a guest at some of the Goan clubs in Kenya. Mervyn3.0 __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com _ Do not post admin requests to the list. Goanet mailing list (Goanet@goanet.org)
Re: [Goanet] The destruction of Hindu temples to build Catholicchurches in their places.
Mario As often, you seem to miss the point being made. I asked if, because Gilbert had not personally found the evidence about Hindu temples, he was happy to accept that there was no such destruction? I have come across material in texts and I am sure Gilbert must as well that, there were Hindu temples destroyed for the construction of Catholic churches in Goa. However, I have not done such research myself and do not know how hard is the evidence that I encountered. I hope you have now understood something quite simple that I was saying. Cornel - Original Message - From: Mario Goveia [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Goa's premiere mailing list, estb. 1994! goanet@goanet.org Sent: Saturday, June 10, 2006 4:54 PM Subject: Re: [Goanet] The destruction of Hindu temples to build Catholicchurches in their places. --- cornel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Are you saying that it is not acceptable to say that Catholic churches were built following Portuguese destruction of Hindu temples as you have not found firm historical evidence for such a claim? I regret I do not have the hard evidence which would be appropriate as I have been busy doing other things! Mario asks: Cornel, Are you serious? Is it acceptable to you to make such inflammatory claims without firm historical evidence? YOU may not have the evidence, but does ANYONE have relevent evidence? _ Do not post admin requests to the list. Goanet mailing list (Goanet@goanet.org) _ Do not post admin requests to the list. Goanet mailing list (Goanet@goanet.org)
[Goanet] UPDATE ON UPGRADE (SET SNOOZE ALARM FOR 2009!) [2nd try]
TOI 10/6/06 Headline: Panel clears airports upgradation plan Key point: Among the airports to be upgraded are those in Goa, Jaipur, Amritsar, Agra and Patna ... The minister said work (on the 35 nonmetro airports) was likely to begin next year and be completed by 2009 in three phases. Bottom line: The new Dabolim is not likely to materialise any time soon i.e. not before 2009. Some other tidbits: The total cost of upgrading the 35 nonmetro airports is estimated at Rs 8000 crores. [Earlier we were told Rs 1500 crores was the bill for 10 of them including Goa and Rs 500 crores was for Dabolim alone]. AAI would be responsible for the airside work including tarmacs (runways) , apron areas (parking bays), and passenger terminals (and perhaps control towers). Private investment would be sought for city-side facilities such as restaurants, hotels and car parking. FDI of up to 49% is allowed within a private investment limit of 74%. The balance would be held by AAI. Question: A month ago it was reported that a new passenger terminal was being considered as part of the Dabolim upgrade. Where exactly is this going to be located? And how will folks be able to access it? Will it end up like being practically another airport from the passenger point of view (though the runway would be common)? What chances are there that AAI will mend its antediluvian ways? SO: UTT GOEMKARS AND TAKE AN INTEREST IN THE KIND OF CONNECTIVITY BEING FOISTED ON YOU AND ME!!! _ Do not post admin requests to the list. Goanet mailing list (Goanet@goanet.org)
Re: Re: Re: Re: [Goanet] Theist v/s atheist v/s barbarian
Mario Goveia [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is why I always ask critics to be specific about what I have said that they disagree with, and provide alternative facts and opinions of their own, so that we can have an intelligent dialog. Mario, You claimed to be a barbarian. I disagreed with that. IMHO, your posts here confirm that you are more than a barbarian. Now lets have an intelligent discussion on this topic that you have introduced :-) I don't think you or anyone else should have any trouble figuring out exactly what I think, even though I have to sometimes repeat things for some of our highly schooled members for whom nothing is rock solid and everything is relative :-)) Secondly, your posts always remind me of a bad Karaoke singer doing a Bob Dylan number. The worse the presentation is, the more authentic the performance. Mervyn3.0 __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com _ Do not post admin requests to the list. Goanet mailing list (Goanet@goanet.org)
Re: [Goanet] Theist v/s atheist?
--- cornel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mario It would be helpful to figure out what you mean by true knowledge. That concept was largely rejected when religious knowledge was questioned with the rise of modernity. Further, one would even be pressed very hard to refer to anything in science as true knowledge. Have you missed the boat along the way on this kind of discussion? Mario replies: No, but I think it is you who has missed the boat and has fallen into the water:-)) Let's see if I can give you an example of true knowledge that even you, who is so highly schooled that everything is relative, will be able to understand. How about the true scientific knowledge that a properly designed object if moving above a certain speed, can be made to rise up off the ground and stay up as long as it has enough fuel to maintain it's speed? Or, how about the true scientific knowledge that if one jumps off a tall building, one will fall to the ground and die? Those who would ... be pressed very hard to refer to anything in science as true knowledge. should try it sometime :-)) _ Do not post admin requests to the list. Goanet mailing list (Goanet@goanet.org)
[Goanet] Happy birthday, AA
Alcoholics Anonymous was founded today (June 10) in Ohio in 1935. Goa has a lot to learn from this group, and benefit from its work too. Some already have. FN http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alcoholics_Anonymous Alcoholics Anonymous is an international, spiritually oriented community of alcoholics who meet in groups. The primary purpose of A.A. members is to stay sober and help other alcoholics do the same. A.A. formed the original twelve-step program and has been the source and model for all subsequent recovery groups such as Gamblers Anonymous, Narcotics Anonymous, Sexaholics Anonymous, Overeaters Anonymous, and Al-Anon/Alateen, among others. Until the mid-1930s, alcoholics who did not have the financial means to hire a psychiatrist or admit themselves to a private sanitarium could find help only at state hospitals, in jails, or through street ministries[1]. The founding of Alcoholics Anonymous marked the first approach to supporting the sustained recovery of the alcoholic, regardless of their financial standing. One aspect of Alcoholics Anonymous is their definition of alcoholism. They define it as a progressive disease from which the alcoholic is suffering. A.A. prescribes that alcoholism, as a disease, can not be cured. A.A. believes the recovering alcoholic has no option but to completely abstain from alcohol[2] -- -- Frederick 'FN' Noronha | Yahoomessenger: fredericknoronha http://fn.goa-india.org | [EMAIL PROTECTED] Independent Journalist | +91(832)2409490 Cell 9822122436 -- Photographs from Goa: http://www.flickr.com/photos/fn-goa/ _ Do not post admin requests to the list. Goanet mailing list (Goanet@goanet.org)
[Goanet] Libel Defamation in the Information Age
On the Internet, where abnormal behavior is the status quo, tempers can flare in the heat of debate and word wars can last for days or even weeks. It's not uncommon for users to ridicule, harass or insult those who disagree with them. But if you damage someone's reputation by trying to embarrass them in a public forum, you could be sued for libel or defamation. After all, there's no reason to assume that the messages you send through cyberspace are immune from lawsuits. The Internet culture right now is for users to refute speech with speech, says Dave Marburger, the attorney who represented Brock Meeks in one of the first defamation lawsuits in the United States involving the Internet. But as the Internet culture gets more diverse, users will start refuting speech with lawsuits. There have only been a handful of libel and defamation lawsuits filed involving the Internet so far, but as the Net grows, the number of lawsuits will probably increase. If the few court battles that have been decided involving libel and defamation on the Net are any indication of how the law will be applied to the Internet in the future, it's worth your time to learn what's libelous or defamatory on the Internet and what's not. Other users have the right to sue you for defamation if they can prove you damaged their reputation or good name with false information. You can be sued for libel if another user can prove you have distributed defamatory statements about them in a public area -- such as a news group or mailing list. In April of 1993 Gil Hardwick, an anthropologist in Australia, was ordered by the Australian Supreme Court to pay David Rindos $40,000 in damages because he defamed Rindos on an international mailing list. After Rindos lost his job at the University of West Australia, Hardwick posted a message on an international disscussion group that suggested Rindos was fired because he was a bully and had sexually molested a local boy. Rindos filed a defamation lawsuit against Hardwick because he felt the message had hurt his chances of finding a new job. In a letter to Rindos's attorney, Hardwick wrote Let this matter be expedited and done withI can do nothing to prevent it, lacking any resources whatsoever to defend myself. Like most people, Hardwick didn't have the money to hire a lawyer or finance an expensive legal battle. He (Rindos) suffered a great deal of personal hurt because of the message, said Supreme Court Justice David Ipp in the West Australian. The damages award must compensate him and vindicate his reputation to the public. The Internet is an informal forum and people often write personal things about other users, but you can be held accountable in court for making libelous or defamatory remarks in public forums just like Hardwick was. We know that as the Internet grows, there will be more and more lawsuits involving libel and defamation, says attorney David H. Donaldson, editor of Legal Bytes, an electronic magazine that discusses legal issues involving computers and networking. The only question is if the number of cases will grow steadily or if there will be an explosion of lawsuits all at once. Anybody can sue you for libel or defamation if they think you damaged their reputation, but if you can prove what you say is true, chances are that you won't end up in court. Make it clear when you are stating your opinion, says Donaldson, Always state the facts that your opinions are based on just to be safe. You probably won't lose a libel or defamation lawsuit if you can back up what you write with solid facts. For example, Brock Meeks, a full-time journalist who also distributes his own electronic magazine, avoided losing a defamation lawsuit largely because he could prove an article that he sent over the Net was true. Meeks was sued by Suarez Corporation Industries in April of 1994 for writing an investigative story about the company and its services in his electronic newsletter -- the CyberWire Dispatch. Meeks had no libel insurance, no publishing company backing him up and a lot of legal fees to cover. (His lawyer charged him $200 an hour.) The only thing Meeks had was his house -- and he didn't want to sell it to pay off a lawsuit. Meeks defended his article in numerous posts on the Net, All of my facts were rock solid. Although the article was delivered with a fair amount of attitude, I don't believe that I'm in dangerous waters, he wrote. Benjamin Suarez, owner of Suarez Corp., filed the suit because he felt that Meeks had damaged his reputation and hurt his business by saying he was infamous for his questionable direct marketing scams, and saying he (Suarez) has a mean streak. To back up his opinion, Meeks cited accusations made by the Washington state attorney general's office concerning Suarez's direct marketing practices. In August of 1994 Suarez Corp. made Meeks an offer he couldn't refuse. They agreed to settle the case for $64 -- to cover administrative
[Goanet] Tali-BAN the bans!
Tali-BAN the bans! By Valmiki Faleiro BG Koshy calls me a coward. For not writing on Da Vinci Code and the ban on its celluloid version. BGK is a man I respect and admire. He is one of the two who taught me English at college. Like the other, DM Silveira, he urges me to write more. From an editor who migrated to corporate life in India and Switzerland, BGK today is a successful Bangalore-based investor who champions causes of the Catholic Church. He was the prime force getting Benny Hinn, the celebrated Gospel preacher, to India, despite strident Hindutva threats. I must prove BGK wrong. I'm no coward. I'll write on bans, not Brown's crazy postulations. I do not get drawn into spiritual debates in public. I believe faith is private. Debates on faith are futile. I'm fond of poet Milton's quote, For those who believe, no proof is necessary; For those who don't, no proof is possible. Bans smack of tyranny. Reminiscent of deeds like those of Salazar and Stalin, Hirohito and Hitler. I am anti-ban. I am for freedom of expression, wielded responsibly. Not as Open General Licence to hurt people's cultures, traditions, or faith. Fictionally or otherwise. The sacrosanct must not be defiled out of fantastic whim. I've read DVC. Nothing racy, at times boring. As of the film, Cornel, a Goan educationist in the UK, says, It was so boring that I slept through parts of it, so I saw it a second time! Cornel didn't change opinion on the re-take. Goa, alas, has banned the film. Banning is easy, but dangerous. In this age, when even kids have 101 ways of sourcing information, ban is an obsolete option. Bans are counterproductive and can yield strange results. My earliest lesson on bans came from the world's greatest book ever written. God created the universe, then Adam and Eve. He banned them from eating a particular fruit in the Garden of Eden. We know the result. God had to send his only begotten son to the world, to be mocked and crucified, to redeem man from that original sin. (The biblical story, of course, centres on a different theme: man's choice between good and evil.) When then Bombay State reeked under Prohibition of puritan Morarji Desai, his own staff distilled hooch within the compound! The forbidden fruit is always sweet. Bans are liable to misuse. While the one on DVC may adduce genuine outrage, what justifies the Vatican's ban on David Yallop's In God's Name? The book challenged no faith. It was entirely on temporal matters. Like misuse of power and wealth, scandal and maladministration by certain coterie within the Vatican, civil and cleric, in the wake of Pope John Paul-I's mysterious demise. Let's acknowledge that our hullabaloo loads box-office profits to the villains. Jose Colaco is a Paediatrician in Nassau, The Bahamas. A diehard Goenkar with roots in Carambolim, near Old Goa, before his ancestors moved to Velim during the plague that killed that great city. A Catholic to boot. He was the first to say that, on Goanet that noise would only generate greater publicity and bigger profits. Let's remember that no advanced Christian country in the world has banned DVC. The Vatican hasn't. The Church in India didn't clamour for one. What does that say? That bans work adversely surreptitious viewing out of curiosity, more hype for the forbidden, more attendance at the Louvre and the horrendous Pompidou Centre in front. Let's view it from another angle, as BGK does. National Geographic recently televised the Gospel of Judas, claimed as sourced from a 1400-year old manuscript. Hard questions: who is the author? Judas? Improbable. History says he hung himself. Is what it says true? Would you believe it? If Dan B. had written a scientific tome rather than a novel, he'd have made no money but would be respected and admired and countered. For this reason, there will be no real movement against the Gospel of Judas. If ban is not the answer, what is? Protest, to create awareness and hold the flock together. Protest, to reach the gullible and the weak of faith. Protest, on the streets and from the pulpit. Bans are not a hallmark of civilized society, but like Taliban. We must learn. The next Dan B. won't be long in coming. Finally, to how BGK regards the book and the film: I read DVC when it first came out and promptly forgot all about it. Too much attention is being drawn to a mediocre book - average in research, average in style, average in plot. I saw the movie the other day and found it plods through two brooding hours. It is a fantasy well-promoted. DVC will die a natural death and will be forgotten. Our faith will survive in tact as it has for centuries. (ENDS) The Valmiki Faleiro weekly column at: http://www.goanet.org/index.php?name=Newsfile=articlesid=330 == The above article appeared in the June 11, 2006 edition of the Herald, Goa
[Goanet] Goa importing poverty
Hi Cornel, Thanks for your question. Your query of physician migration to UK or USA refers to another example of lack of innovative planning in India in the 1970's and 1980' and perhaps even now. Much of the migration would be reduced if the medical schools and medical planners expanded and encouraged many more fields of medical practice in India. In spite of the excess supply of doctors in some specialties, there is a shortage of doctors in other specialties with none available in many parts of the country. For example in the 1970's there were about half-a-dozen cancer centers in the entire country. That was less than what one saw in the city of London or in a borough of New York City. In fact would be interesting TODAY if ALL the rock solid Goans (believers in anything) built a rock solid cancer center IN Goa? And the rock solid native Goans could maintain the cancer center and its operations. That would be a good belief that should satisfy all. Other medical specialities which are CURRENTLY not widespread in India are sports medicine, geriatrics, pain management, physiatrists. This does not even include sub-specialization is various specialty fields - like pediatric-cardiology or pediatric-gastroenterology or neuro-radiology or vascular-surgery etc. Kind Regards, GL PS. The above suggestion of a cancer center in Goa should in no way be construed that I am seeking a position. In the 1970 and 1980's India government's policy was concentrating on eradicating malaria, cholera, typhoid, amoebaesis and other communicable diseases. It did not want the public or private sector to address the illnesses of the middle class and waste the country's limited resources in importing foreign technology. Yet most immigrant doctors of the 70's and 80's are not complaining.:=)). That is called making lemonade from a lemon! Cornel: Just one small point re your Why are the world economists (who were in favor of WTO and NAFTA) not stepping forward to come up with innovative plans to create jobs in Mexico to keep the indigenous workforce in their native land? Could the same have been said about Indian doctors who rushed to migrate to the USA? Just asking? _ Do not post admin requests to the list. Goanet mailing list (Goanet@goanet.org)
[Goanet] IF YOU DRINK STOP DRIVING
IF YOU DRINK STOP DRIVING by Thom.Agshekar St. Lawrence - Agassaim Goa is paradise and it can't be replaced by any place in the world. Goans are known for their hospitality and social drinking. We celebrate our life from birth to death inviting neighbors and friends for all kind of occasions so much so if a friend visits to another friend they would go to eat and drink. There is no such a friendship without having cup of tea, soft drink and if you are an adult hard liquor country and foreign. This type of alcohol our youngsters get trapped in bad habit and difficult to resist. Many of our friends have ruined their life and brought disgrace to the family and died at the younger age. And then watch now and then how the Bollywood Directors are portraying Christians as drunkards or bar owners but that's another story to tell about them when then come down to get drunkard and taking advantage of Christian Minority.. and on our hospitality. The tragedy of bus accident is another sorrowful event to stop and analyze what might have gone wrong with this and all those accidents taking places everyday on our high ways and by-ways. I feel that I have an obligation to reveal that our religious Leaders themselves, particularly the Christian religious and may be even some, Sadhus or Imams, participate in drinking and they don't talk much about how alcohol if you cannot control can ruin your health and regenerate your senses, and destroy the peace in the community. Remember my friends what those two criminals (Non Goans) who killed a Priest in Macazana Church Residence? Yeah that alcohol made them to stab and murder the Priest. The civilized world has acknowledged this problem and has adopted strict rules of drinking in public especially if they are driving or riding a motorcycle or car. I appeal our Government and Health Ministry to save our youngsters with drivers that Drinking and Driving makes you blind and kills innocent people. I understand that there is a Law in the State that there is a certain constrain to drink at any restaurant or bar and no restriction to their own houses. Goa Government should do more than just tolerating our social drinking by strict New Bills in the Assembly and making a Law that bring harsh punishment for those who break: 1. Nobody can serve alcohol that is underage of 21 years of age. 2. Tourist Taxi and Bus Operators should be checked at random and give an alcohol drinking test and if they found that they had been driving and riding under the influence of alcohol to suspend their license for 6 months as a first warning and if they continue to issue second warning for a year and then for three years until he or she is sober. If they want to drink after a long day of hard labor let them drink all night and enjoy their family life. 3. Most accidents do happen because our highways are not safe and due to poor infrastructure and neglect by the Central Government since the Liberation of Goa. I hope that the Rane Administration will fulfill his promise of having 4 lanes highway from Pernem to Canacona real soon Law Enforcement by the Police and Transport Department needs to implement immediately before we have more deaths on the roads. And only then we can hold Thousand Parties all over Goa when there is LAW N ORDER! Abv appeared in H dtd 10/6 [EMAIL PROTECTED] for Goa NRI related info... http://in.groups.yahoo.com/group/GOAN-NRI/ Konkani Songs, Goan Photos, Tiatr/Film VCDs, Bank interest rates etc etc (for updates etc click below) http://in.groups.yahoo.com/group/GOAN-NRI/files/ Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com _ Do not post admin requests to the list. Goanet mailing list (Goanet@goanet.org)
[Goanet] Re: ADC - June 8
From : Edward Verdes [EMAIL PROTECTED] With todays proverbs, I conclude the ADC posts, which I was posting in absence of Domnic Babs Aichea Dissak Chintop'. Thank you Edward and welcome back Dominic. You guys are Goan stalwarts. Keep up the good work. Regards, George _ Do not post admin requests to the list. Goanet mailing list (Goanet@goanet.org)
[Goanet] Pigs... in the village
When you talk to others from a diverse background, you often get
another perspective into how things work. A villager, my neighbour
Magdeline, today mentioned that all her pigs had died recently. Was
this, I wondered, a kind of disease that had hit the region without it
getting the attention deserved?
Anyway, she said she was keen to restart keeping pigs. And she
insightfully pointed to the growing number of people staying in
rooms-on-hire in the region. Obviously, the pig in the Goa of the past
helped to maintain local sanitation. While many still don't have
toilets ('sulabh sauchalayas' don't cover all), the pigs have been
vanishing.
Incidentally, the Government of Goa has a Government Piggery Farm at
Curti (Ponda). They're officially promising to sell piglings for
breeding purposes -- at the rate of Rs 40 per kg of live weight
subject to revision, at the farm premises.
Those interested in procuring piglings are asked -- in a thick
185-page book titled 'Welfare Schemes for the People of Goa' -- to
contact the nearest Government Veterinary doctor. I wonder how many
people know of this possibility of take advantage of the scheme. -- FN
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[Goanet] Interesting question from Wikipedia
Interesting question from Wikipedia --FN http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Goa Inspired by the French Revolution??? An interesting development of the 18th century in Goa is the Conspiracy Of The Pintos in 1787 which was inspired by the French Revolution. The French Revolution took place in 1789-1799, so how is the Conspiracy of The Pintos in 1787 inspired by an event that took place afterwards? -- -- Frederick 'FN' Noronha | Yahoomessenger: fredericknoronha http://fn.goa-india.org | [EMAIL PROTECTED] Independent Journalist | +91(832)2409490 Cell 9822122436 -- _ Do not post admin requests to the list. Goanet mailing list (Goanet@goanet.org)
[Goanet] 23rd June FRIDAY BALCAO:Strategies to deal with the narcotics trade drug addiction in Goa.
--- Welcome to the FRIDAY BALCAO -- Dear Cybergaonkars on Goanet, We continue with FRIDAY BALCAO on 23rd June from 4pm. to 6pm. at Goa Desc Resource Centre No. 11, Liberty Apartments, Feira Alta, Mapusa Goa. TOPIC: Strategies to deal with the narcotics trade and drug addiction in Goa. SPEAKERS: Open Discussion We invite you to express your viewpoint by attending the Friday Balcao event but if you cannot attend, then please send your views and action plan suggestions by post to FRIDAY BALCAO Post Box 78, Mapusa 403 507 or by email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] best wishes, Roland Martins -- Don't miss out on the discussion. Information is power, Share it equitably. Lets make things happen in Goa !! -- === GOA DESC RESOURCE CENTRE Documentation + Education + Solidarity 11 Liberty Apts., Feira Alta, Mapusa, Goa 403 507 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Working On Issues Of Development Democracy === -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.8.3/360 - Release Date: 6/9/2006 _ Do not post admin requests to the list. Goanet mailing list (Goanet@goanet.org)
[Goanet] Goan Association U.K., Ruby Anniversary. (1) Addendum
I forgot a very important happening in the History of the Association. In 1977 the Committee accepted an invitation from the Goan Association Canada (Toronto) to visit them for a sports and cultural exchange. I had all the Funds that were collected, changed at money market interbank rate, with no commission, for the Association! The Canadain Goans were very generous in their entertainment and the hospitality that they showered upon us. We had also made a coach trip to Ottawa and onwards to Montreal. The Montreal Goans also treated us very well. I remember their welcome evening reception and the Biryani which was really mouth watering! Our Hockey side alas did not do that well and the Goan Association Canada were champions! -- Gabe. -- DEV BOREM KORUM. Gabe Menezes. London, England _ Do not post admin requests to the list. Goanet mailing list (Goanet@goanet.org)
Re: [Goanet] Diocesan Society of Education should act !
Dear Mr. Martins Absolutely well said and totally relevant. We goans are our own undoing. Hopefully the Diosesan Society of Education (Bishop's Palace) will see the light after its blunder perpetuated on the people of Goa earlier thro' the all Konkani medium in the primary section. We Goans love our language. But at what cost??? Should not the hypocrites be exposed forthwith? If mistakes were done, just say sorry and get on with the work. Posterity will appreciate the efforts. This Party maintains that 'English' as a subject is a 'MUST' in the primary section to facilitate safe transition of students to the secondary level. Needless to say that the Party appreciates the vision of the present education minister Mr. Luizinho Faleiro even if it is the only good thing he has done among all others. Cheers to Mr. Luizinho Faleiro. Let the BJP and the MGP who have perenially been against the interest of Goans be doomed with all their loud mouths and distorted vocal chords. We at the Goa Su-Raj Party feel that Mr. Faleiro has gone thro' our Road Map (on education) where we have prescribed this remedy. Hopefully he will follow the Road Map for Goa on education Industry entirely for the benefit of Goa and Goans, while he can (that is) floriano goasuraj - Original Message - From: Anthony M Barreto [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; goanet@goanet.org Sent: Saturday, June 10, 2006 10:45 PM Subject: [Goanet] Diocesan Society of Education should act ! Starting this academic year, the Goa education department reintroduced an English language subject from Std I. Sensible move. The Oposition BJP and MGP have joined forces to oppose it. It's time the Goa Diocesan Society of Education support the govt's wise move at least now after meekly accepting Konkani as the medium of instruction in all its primary school. English is the mark of gentleman and it is the language of our bread and butter. Even for the job of a peon you need English. This politicians who oppose a basic primary school subject as threat to our culture have their own children conveniently studying in convent schools. The standard of Konkani and Marathi medium schools in Goa is simply shameful. Our Poinguinim MLA Mr Tawadkar who is from Cotigao knows very well that the students from Cotigao and Gaondongrim cannot spell their school name in English properly even after passing SSC. How they pass SSC and of what good it is is anybody's guess. Tony Martin ** Anthony M Barreto aka Tony Martin Freelance Writer and Author Primrose Galgibaga, Canacona, Goa -- 403728 M: 9422390701 R: 91-0832-2632012 * __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com _ Do not post admin requests to the list. Goanet mailing list (Goanet@goanet.org) _ Do not post admin requests to the list. Goanet mailing list (Goanet@goanet.org)
[Goanet] Goan Association U.K., Ruby Anniversary. (1)
1966 was a good year, perhaps an omen, portending England winning the World Cup again? Besides England winning the World Cup, our very own Goan, Rita Faria was crowned Miss World, bringing joy and honour not only to Goans but to the whole of India! The Goan Association Committee having been formed, moved swiftly to organize functions. The most notable was the Dance at Cumberland Place; we were warned not to bring any cameras along as there was a special guest appearance. Needless to say we were all expecting Miss World, I was quite sceptical as to how much clout our newly formed committee would have, to actually deliver. The day arrived and lo and behold - there was Rita Faria - a statuesque figure. No photos were allowed as she was on contract with the Miss World organizers. She was fortunate to get away, from her handlers, as most winners are chaperoned. There was even a tag dance, whereby all the men, could have a chance to dance with Miss World. My friend Michael Fernandes, who also happened to be, my brother-in-law's brother, was all excited and went straight for a tag. I was reluctant as Rita stood quite tall, I believe taller than me and I thought it, a waste of time to get all hot and bothered! The organizers did a good job, I believe the late Amorito Nazareth was on the Committee. Always with his White tuxedo Coat, very Cuban looking! Dancing with the daughters of our Goenkars never transpired; I think having seen Tony D'Costa and myself, they decided to lock up their daughters and keep them at home!. So with sweaty palms (myself ) and stirring loins we approached the wives, who were so sweet and willing to dance with us, wet behind the ears teenagers. After that I didn't get the chance to attend any more functions, I was promptly posted to RAF Geilenkirchen in West Germany. Today, the Ladies are looking for young men to dance with but none are forthcoming! There was already a steady stream of Goans coming into London and 1968 saw a huge influx of Kenyan Asians. They were all bent on beating the deadline set by Parliament, regarding Asian British Passport holders. 27 Jets were leaving Nairobi every evening on their way to Heathrow. Amongst them were many Goans. By the time I left the Forces to return to London, my sister, her husband and my parents had arrived, along with many Goans. Now we were having regular dances organized by the Goan Association and one had to be quick and early, as it was on first come first served basis and many a time people were turned back as the events were sold out. It wasn't long before the Association decided to encourage people to become life members. Life membership was encouraged and available at £20, I promptly became one. 1972 saw the expulsion of Asians from Uganda, many were Goans, who further swelled our ranks, in the U.K. Most remained around the London area. Many joined the Association and because of their thirst for meeting other Goans, functions organized by the Association were always a sell out. Some enterprising Goans started organizing their own functions and doing catering as well at this time. Many of these made their money during those days and some are sitting pretty today. There was a good band in those days called Night Fever and the crooner, Agnes Delgado, kept us dancing, with her renditions. Agnes was a really gifted singer - had sung for Steve's Band in Nairobi. I believe our Cornel D'Costa also played, the Saxophone, for Night Fever occasionally. A few more years down the line and Hastings Banda, expelled the Goans from Malawi. All Goans from Malawi are, I am sure, ever grateful to one of their members for blurting out, niceties about Hastings Banda! These new refugees were lucky, in that they were put up in temporary accommodation, until they found their feet. Today they are a thriving lot and have yearly celebrations - one year they were so thankful for Malawi expelling them, that they invited the Malawi High Commissioner to their yearly Bash! Many of these Malwai Goans further swelled the ranks of the Goan Association. At one time, I believe there were close to 3000 G.O.A. members, if one takes into account that only the head of the Household became a member, the size of the London Goan Community could be estimated as many several thousand people. One should appreciate as well, that many more did not become members and attended functions as guests. The Youth of the Committee quickly got together and formed a Hockey Club, which was very successful in those days. Jacinto Fernandes managed the First team and I managed and played for the second XI. I left for Singapore in 1978 and thereafter occasionally attended some Goan functions, when vacationing in London. Some time in 1984 on a business trip back to London from Hong Kong, I visited the newly purchased Club, at Beckenham Place, Kent. The enthusiasm was infectious and I promptly removed my cheque book and handed over a cheque for £500 for the Association to buy a T.V.
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[Goanet] AICHEA DISSAK CHINTOP - Junachi 11vi, 2006!
Tench khorn jem bhangar koddoita aveachi mathi nibor korta. (The same furnace that liquefies gold hardens the clay.) Moi-mogan, Domnic Fernandes Anjuna/Dhahran, KSA _ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/ _ Do not post admin requests to the list. Goanet mailing list (Goanet@goanet.org)
[Goanet] Heritage Houses
This is regarding Ramnath Raikar's article in the Navhind Times on Friday, June 9, 2006 about a heritage house. The article was well written. But the first photograph states the Menezes Braganca House in Chandor. Its is an error. The house in the photograph with three towers belongs to my late maternal grandfather Dr. Joaquim Grevi Figuereido de Albquerque and Dr. Eurico Santana da Silva. Thanks Ana Maria de Souza-Goswami _ Do not post admin requests to the list. Goanet mailing list (Goanet@goanet.org)
[Goanet] Diocesan Society of Education should act !
Starting this academic year, the Goa education department reintroduced an English language subject from Std I. Sensible move. The Oposition BJP and MGP have joined forces to oppose it. It's time the Goa Diocesan Society of Education support the govt's wise move at least now after meekly accepting Konkani as the medium of instruction in all its primary school. English is the mark of gentleman and it is the language of our bread and butter. Even for the job of a peon you need English. This politicians who oppose a basic primary school subject as threat to our culture have their own children conveniently studying in convent schools. The standard of Konkani and Marathi medium schools in Goa is simply shameful. Our Poinguinim MLA Mr Tawadkar who is from Cotigao knows very well that the students from Cotigao and Gaondongrim cannot spell their school name in English properly even after passing SSC. How they pass SSC and of what good it is is anybody's guess. Tony Martin ** Anthony M Barreto aka Tony Martin Freelance Writer and Author Primrose Galgibaga, Canacona, Goa -- 403728 M: 9422390701 R: 91-0832-2632012 * __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com _ Do not post admin requests to the list. Goanet mailing list (Goanet@goanet.org)
[Goanet] High Fuel Price bothering you? Not for long hopefully
Read all about it !http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biodiesel __Do You Yahoo!?Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com _ Do not post admin requests to the list. Goanet mailing list (Goanet@goanet.org)
[Goanet] RE: 'GOTCHA !!!!'
Hey Mario, GOTCHA My work here is done ! FR. . Mario's gems: Francis, I'm sure Dr. Kaza Moyo's skills would be far more usefully employed in your search for eternal youth...! Dr. Moyo, Welcome. Your surname is one I have not heard before...! Having grown up an Indian, and now a US citizen of...! ...blah, blah, blah!:-) . _ Do not post admin requests to the list. Goanet mailing list (Goanet@goanet.org)
Re: Re: Re: Re: [Goanet] Theist v/s atheist?
--- Valmiki Faleiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I was not participating on the debate on that thread, dear Mario, was just curious about the import of an observation made by Cornel. Mario replies: Nevertheless, dear Valmiki, you took the time and effort to broadcast to the whole forum that you frequently disagreed with my rightest diatribes. This is a very general and critical comment that tells us nothing specific about what you are talking about, or if you even know what you are talking about :-) It suggests that you may be a die-hard leftist :-)) This is why I always ask critics to be specific about what I have said that they disagree with, and provide alternative facts and opinions of their own, so that we can have an intelligent dialog. It also gives me an opportunity to put what I have said in context, if necessary, or to clarify misunderstandings. The next time you see a rightest diatribe, please let me know. Or you may find something recent and relevent in my extensive section in the Goanet archives. I don't think you or anyone else should have any trouble figuring out exactly what I think, even though I have to sometimes repeat things for some of our highly schooled members for whom nothing is rock solid and everything is relative :-)) _ Do not post admin requests to the list. Goanet mailing list (Goanet@goanet.org)
[Goanet] Varca Murder Case: No Direct Evidence yet..
Varca Murder Case: Police has recovered weapons like Spanner, a plier, pipe range etc from Tommys residence and sent to forensic laboratory at Hyderabad . Police are hoping for a positive report to nail the accused, Police also admitted that they have so far not got any direct evidence against Tommy (H) (Tommy's bail plea rejected by the court at least 3 times) [EMAIL PROTECTED] for Goa NRI related info... http://in.groups.yahoo.com/group/GOAN-NRI/ Konkani Songs, Goan Photos, Tiatr/Film VCDs, Bank interest rates etc etc (for updates etc click below) http://in.groups.yahoo.com/group/GOAN-NRI/files/ Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com _ Do not post admin requests to the list. Goanet mailing list (Goanet@goanet.org)
[Goanet] Tiatr: Hem Mhojea Ugddasak Korat (with something new - see photos)
Hem Mhojea Ugddasak Korat . tumchea ani somest munxam passot tem varoutolem, hem mojea ugddasak korat ..uprant kapinn vazta..kinnikinnikinnikinnikinni. I really thought, it has something to do with above but nothing like that. Infact, in the very beginning, during the parents day program, two kids (Franky/Shruti) gets the first prize in a singing competition and their father is so happy that he donated, on the spot, a cheque for Rs.50,000 to the organizers and says continue organizing such events year after year and do this in memory of mine Hem Mhojea Ugddasak Korat. Thats not all! The same rich man dies in the end (of Cancer) and just before he dies, he reveals his another wish to his grown up children (Mini Mario/Felcy) a big hospital (as displayed-see photo) for Cancer patients, and again, do this in memory of mine i.e. Hem Mhojea Ugddasak Korat. Whats new this time in Tony Dias Tiatr Hem Mhojea Ugddasak Korat ? Well, there were no traditional pull up-pull down Scene Curtains or podde, instead, there were other close-up (shutter type) podde which would open side ways (see one Pic whilst opening) There was one main scene poddo, then the interior bunglow type poddo, then one each showing kitchen, office, hospital etc. (see some photos). http://flickr.com/photos/joegoauk/164723469/ main poddo (close up) http://flickr.com/photos/joegoauk/164723468/ main poddo http://flickr.com/photos/joegoauk/164723470/ poddo while opening apart http://flickr.com/photos/joegoauk/164723464/ bungalow interior http://flickr.com/photos/joegoauk/164723466/ hospital interior http://flickr.com/photos/joegoauk/164723465/ Hospital to the left (his final wish) There were about 8 child artistes viz Franky, Shruti, Jr.Chico, Sonia, Victor and new (seen for the first time- Mindroy, Valencia Ashton) All child artistes performed very well as it was evidence from the audience applause etc. Other actors being Jesie, Felcy, Filu, Mini Mario, Mario de Vasco, Rizby, Tony Dais. Comedians being Ambe, Sally, Joana, Aurelio (and Valencia/Ashton). Xavier Gomes Sang a song on DVC, in which he gave credit to Churchill and also said Jesus died for us and that we should prepare ourselves to die for him (if necessary) should the DVC shown again in Goa. He was called back once again. Congratulations to Tony Dias (and his entire troupe) on your success of this tiatr and also giving chance, as always, to our younger generation (child Artistes) to show their talents on stage. The KA hall (7.30show) was nearly full (about 97%). 2 more shows at Panjim both same day on 25th June 3.30 7.30pm. Margao (3rd repeat show) today 3.30pm and Ponda 18th June 4pm Tiatr is good and highly recommended. [EMAIL PROTECTED] for Goa NRI related info... http://in.groups.yahoo.com/group/GOAN-NRI/ Konkani Songs, Goan Photos, Tiatr/Film VCDs, Bank interest rates etc etc (for updates etc click below) http://in.groups.yahoo.com/group/GOAN-NRI/files/ Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com _ Do not post admin requests to the list. Goanet mailing list (Goanet@goanet.org)
[Goanet] Bombay Taxis to go hi-tech
Bombay Taxis to go hi-tech - next time you travel in taxi in Bombay, you neet not pay the fare in cash but can use credit card. - Taxis would have electronic meters and passengers would be given a printed receipt for the fare paid. - Proposed fleet taxi scheme to be implemented later this year. - The scheme based on taxi service in Singapore and New York is expected to take off in four months. - Fleet operator having between a minimum 500 and Max.10,000 taxis would be given an operating license. - None of the existing drivers would lose his job as they would be absorbed by the fleet operators. - Almost 98% of the about 55,000 taxis in Bombay are Premier Padmini models whose average age is between 15 and 18 years. - New taxis would be bigger with minimum 1000cc capacity and offer features like global positioning system (GPS) which would make possible to track the position of a taxi on Mumbai roads. - Each fleet owner would have control room. - By calling designated numbers, people would be able to get the taxi at their doorstep. - The state Govt. wants to have around four to five operators as part of the fleet taxi service. - Each operators taxis would have a different colour band to help in easy identification of the fleet owner. Compiled from H/PTI [EMAIL PROTECTED] for Goa NRI related info... http://in.groups.yahoo.com/group/GOAN-NRI/ Konkani Songs, Goan Photos, Tiatr/Film VCDs, Bank interest rates etc etc (for updates etc click below) http://in.groups.yahoo.com/group/GOAN-NRI/files/ Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com _ Do not post admin requests to the list. Goanet mailing list (Goanet@goanet.org)
[Goanet] Dabolim... on wikipedia
Here's the link to Dabolim airport on Wikipedia. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dabolim_Airport It would be really nice if the knowledgeable among us (such as Thomas Philip) could update it with some of the information on the Dabolim debate, etc. Thanks! FN -- -- Frederick 'FN' Noronha | Yahoomessenger: fredericknoronha http://fn.goa-india.org | [EMAIL PROTECTED] Independent Journalist | +91(832)2409490 Cell 9822122436 -- Photographs from Goa: http://www.flickr.com/photos/fn-goa/ _ Do not post admin requests to the list. Goanet mailing list (Goanet@goanet.org)
Re: [Goanet] IRENE VAZ� FOOTBALLER TIATRIST.
A. Veronica Fernandes wrote: IRENE VAZ FOOTBALLER TIATRIST She is very regular in coming to Kuwait to participate in Tiatros either staged by the local tiatrists or by the visiting tiatrists. Recently she was in Kuwait to take part in the Tiatro staged by Salu Faleiro Harxeant Hanslo Harxeant Roddlo ** Irene Vaz was also one of the judges in the just concluded 2006 UCUs 5th Annual One Act Play Competition. UCU __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com _ Do not post admin requests to the list. Goanet mailing list (Goanet@goanet.org)
[Goanet] Goa news for June 11, 2006
Goa News from Yahoo! News and Goanet.org Visit http://www.goanet.org/newslinks.php for the full stories. *** Football craze: Goa gears up to view World Cup (NDTV) Football mania has swept the entire world and India too is all set to catch the late night fever as Goa gears up for the sporting spectacle in style. http://www.ndtv.com/template/sportstemplate.asp?sportname=Reportcallid=4slug=Goa gears up to view soccer World Cuptemplate=Fifa2006id=28604 *** Goa passes policy for disabled (NDTV) Goa has now taken a new step to ensure that disabled persons have equal and easy access to not just all buildings but also transport facilities. The smallest state of India has taken a giant step towards equal rights for the disabled. http://www.ndtv.com/morenews/showmorestory.asp?category=Nationalslug=Goa passes policy for disabledid=88890 *** Overseas employment agency in Goa (IBN live) Goa sets up employment agency for abroad employment seekers so that foreign agencies wont exploit them. http://www.ibnlive.com/news/overseas-employment-agency-in-goa/12595-3.html *** Goa to expedite settlement procedure of Kuwait war victims (New Kerala) Panaji: Facing a deadline of September, the Goa NRI Commissionerate has decided to expedite the procedure of settlement of claims of Goan victims of Iraq-Kuwait war. http://www.newkerala.com/news3.php?action=fullnewsid=7186 *** Goa to set up overseas employment agency (The Times of India) PANAJI: The Goa government would have its own overseas employment agency by next month to save people belonging to the state seeking employment abroad from being exploited by agents, NRI Commissioner Eduardo Faleiro said. http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/articleshow/1635013.cms *** Lifestyle responsible for spread of HIV/AIDS in Goa (New Kerala) Panaji: It is the lifestyle of people in Goa which makes the state vulnerable for spread of diseases like HIV/AIDS, Goa Governor S C Jamir today said. http://www.newkerala.com/news3.php?action=fullnewsid=6853 *** BJP demands resignation of Goa Education Minister (New Kerala) Panaji: Delay in availability of National Council for Education Research and Training (NCERT) textbooks has sparked off a controversy in Goa with opposition BJP demanding resignation of Education Minister Luizinho Faleiro. http://www.newkerala.com/news3.php?action=fullnewsid=6855 *** GOA gets Warhammer MMO ( News ) (EuroGamer) GOA, the videogames publishing division of France Telecom, has secured the exclusive European publishing and online operational rights for Mythic Entertainment's Warhammer Online: Age of Reckoning. http://www.eurogamer.net/article.php?article_id=65382 *** Oil Slick Threatens Tourist Beaches in India's Goa (Environmental News Network) An oil slick from a cargo ship that sank off India's coast is threatening popular tourist beaches in the southern resort state of Goa, environmentalists said on Tuesday. http://www.enn.com/today.html?id=10618ref=rss *** Enjoy football mania in Goa's special sports bars! (Yahoo! India News) By Devraj http://in.news.yahoo.com/060610/139/64yjy.html Compiled by Goanet News Service http://www.goanet.org/newslinks.php _ Do not post admin requests to the list. Goanet mailing list (Goanet@goanet.org)
