Re: [Goanet] The Dangers of certain topics (relating to Churches)
* G * O * A * N * E * T C * L * A * S * S * I * F * I * E * D * S * Enjoy your holiday in Goa. Stay at THE GARCA BRANCA from November to May There is no better, value for money, guest house. Confirm your bookings early or miss-out Visit http://www.garcabranca.com for details/booking/confirmation. --- Dear Elisabeth, Your letter is not a day too late! It is so nice, so concise, so much food for thought. It says it all. I don't know why Goanet allows the same old issues to be raked up again and again, as if one derives a masochistic pleasure in licking one's own past wounds, further lending ammunition to one's own newfound enemies. Everytime such unnecessary debates are revived, I live in agony, all the more so because of the vitiated communal atmosphere in which we live in our otherwise peaceful State, and look askance: Why, why, I keep asking? As you rightly put it: Perhaps Hindu temples were destroyed. Perhaps churches were built atop temples. All of that happened in the social and political context of that era. We as Christians today, cannot bear responsibility for it. Communal tolerance in Goa today is tenuous to say the least. The air is thick with tension, especially in certain parts of Goa. Two years back even a benign feast like the Bonderan feast was politicised and religious tension stoked". I can give many many more examples like the one you quote above. You have rightly said it, "It is high time that we all act with responsibility and restraint". The editors of Goanet also must share the blame for allowing such unhealthy debates to go on and on in a repetitive and unending manner. Dr. Francisco Colaco = --- Elisabeth Carvalho <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Dear fellow posters, > > I don't mean to be Chicken Little here, but in a > moment I will seem to be. I haven't followed the > discussion about Catholic Churches being built atop > Hindu temples in its entirety, just in bits and > pieces. While I certainly don't want to advise > anyone > on what to discuss, I think in the political climate > that we live in today. Christians have to show some > responsibility in the assertions that they make. > > Perhaps Hindu temples were destroyed. Perhaps > churches > were built atop temples. All of that happened in the > social and political context of that era. We as > Christians today, cannot bear responsibility for it. > Communal tolerance in Goa today is tenuous to say > the > least. The air is thick with tension, especially in > certain parts of Goa. Two years back even a benign > feast like the Bonderan feast was politicised and > religious tension stoked. > > It didn't take long for the Babri Mosque to fall. It > won't take long before the legitimacy of our > churches > is called into question. Yes, it is nice to sit in > our > NRI lounge chairs and debate about issues, but in > our > zeal to debate our point of view, let us also show > some restraint and responsibility. > > Elisabeth > > > > __ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam > protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com > > _ > Do not post admin requests to the list. > Goanet mailing list (Goanet@goanet.org) > __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com _ Do not post admin requests to the list. Goanet mailing list (Goanet@goanet.org)
[Goanet] Re: DaVinci Code: No Return To Inquisition
Dear Sir, The article, "No Return to Inquisition", by Maria Aurora Couto (Outlook, May 29), is well written and makes several good points. It nicely highlights as to how, many of us, Christians, while reacting to that "tissue of specious arguments", i.e., the "Da Vinci Code", we, unwittingly, might have ended up overreacting. In the process, we might have even portrayed ourselves as an intolerant community and, that is a sad thing to have happened! But to write, as she chose to do, "The spectacle...harks back to the days... of the horrors of the Inquisition", is in bad taste, to say the least. Those of us, who know what the Inquisition was all about, and the framework within which its powers were exercised, should refrain from making such comparisons. In Goa, as anywhere else, the Catholic Church, conscious of its bad legacy has evinced a revival. Even, recently it has acted so very maturely by showing tolerance and forgiveness in the face of umpteen attempts to unsettle it, time and again, even in the face of grave provocations. Unfortunately, here in Goa, we do have own Dan Browns, who writing a blend of history and fiction, continue to harp on Inquisition, every now and then, unwittingly lending ammunition to one's own enemies. Thanking you, Dr. Francisco Colaco, MD, FICA 151 Mons. G. Rebelo Rd. Margao. Goa, 403 601 Tel. 0832 2732318 Cell; 9823190318 --- "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" wrote: > No Return To Inquisition > > Brown isn't exactly Nabokov. Yet, faith must trust > its own resilience. > > MARIA AURORA COUTO > > > The spectacle on TV and in print, over the last few > days, of protesters > calling for a ban on the film The Da Vinci Code > harks back to the days of the > Black List and the horrors of the Inquisition. _ Do not post admin requests to the list. Goanet mailing list (Goanet@goanet.org)
[Goanet] 39th. MANDO FESTIVAL
RECENTLY CONCLUDED MANDO FESTIVAL The recently concluded Mando Festival (39TH.)was a treat to the lover's eyes. Despite its minus points, including organizational gaffes", it was a commendable event. Mando, inherently, has a monotony of its own, and thereby it was predicted many years ago that it would die a natural death. But thanks to the efforts of many it still breathes on its own. Criticism there has always been and there will always be. I remember, how much ire the "stylized" Mando version (Mando estilizado) propounded by Fr. Camilo Xavier and Maestro Michael Martins received many years ago!If Mando has to survive it must come out of the rut. The organizers face umpteen difficulties. To start with it is the step-motherly treatment of the various Govts to an otherwise most enviable side of our Goan culture, the quintessence of Goan art. As the great writer/journalist/activist, Mr.Godfrey Gonsalves often reiterates "those in power discreetly promote only a certain type of culture of Goa, and fail to recognise the historical reality of cultural assimilitation by Goans". Truly speaking, genres of dance/music like the Mando, the dekhni and the khel-tiatr - to mention only a few- have originated in the red soil of Goa, clearly created not by the Portuguese (like our extremist die-hards often erroneously beleive), but by us Goans - true-blooded Indians, first and foremost! It is hilarious to know that the "extremist" Parrikar, last year, released a handsome grant well in advance for successfully staging the Mando festival. I am told, he even went to the extent of helping procure tens of advertisements, in order to help meet the enormous expenses incurred by the organizing committee in putting forth festivals of this magnitude.For Mr. Parrikar, of course, expediency is the name of the game. That apart, what surprises me the most, is the fact that the avowed secular "pluralistic" Congress has always succeeded in causing even more damage to our multicultural fabric. Both Luizinho and Digamber, I feel, released grants this year so late apparently in an act of bravado, in a last ditch effort to build their "pluralistic" images. Unfortunately, we have reached a point of time when Mando will be able to survive ony if it is commercialized. And that is to a great extent due to the step-motherly treatment meted to it by succesive Govts. This year, it is my humble opinion, the organizers did a commendable job, not only providing a good build-up to the event, but also sustaining the momentum, on that particular day (the 28th. of Jan. at the Majestic), despite heavy odds. It is sad - well nigh pathetic - that what my friend Godfrey says is so very true: "Ironically,neither the Department of Art and Culture nor the Kala Academy have framed the policy guidelines on what constitutes Goan culture. Thus, the successive Governments, will clandestinely continue to promote only the pre 1510 Indian culture as Goan culture". As a newly appointed member of the KA that I have been (malgre moi), I hope to voice the fears of all of us true-blooded Goans, at the first Board meeting of the KA that is going to take place at 4 pm on Feb 1, at the precincts of that grand institution that is the Kala Academy. Hopefully mine will not be "the voice in the wilderness". Dr. Francisco Colaco 151 G. Rebelo Rd. Margao. Goa Cell: 9823190318 __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
[Goanet] Re: Goanet Reader: Uday Bhembre on a roadmap for Konkani
-- | Add your name to the CLEAN GOA INITIATIVE | || | by visiting this link and following the instructions therein | || | http://shire.symonds.net/pipermail/goanet/2005-October/033926.html | -- FANTASTIC UDHAY. I COULD NOT MAKE TO THE XAVIER HISTORICAL AND RESEARCH CENTRE, DESPITE A PERSONAL INVITATION FROM UDHAY AND FROM MY SISTER WHO OCCUPIES THERE A PRESTIGIOUS POST UNDER THE GUIDANCE OF FR. DELIO. EVERYONE MUST HAVE HAD HIS SAY, I AM SURE. I HOPE THE BAD BLOOD PREVAILING BETWEEN THE ROMI LIPPI PROPONENTS AND THE DEVANNAGARI ONES WILL SOON WILL DIE DOWN. I MYSELF AGAINST HEAVY ODDS AM MAKING A MAJOR EFFORT TO READ AND WRITE KONKANI IN DEVANNAGARI, AND I ENJOY DOING THAT. LET'S UNITE FOR THE SAKE OF GOA. DR. FRANCISCO COLACO Margao. Goa
[Goanet] GIRISH CHODANKAR'S INCIDENT
-- | Add your name to the CLEAN GOA INITIATIVE | || | by visiting this link and following the instructions therein | || | http://shire.symonds.net/pipermail/goanet/2005-October/033926.html | -- Dear Sir, Girish is without doubt one of the few brave and honest fighters that are left in the Congress camp. That his act may have lacked propriety is another matter. Aggrieved as we all were by the blatant inaction of the Police, Girish, it must be understood, must have just tried to vent his ire against the Police. However, knowing as we all do, that the Police are simply captives and remote-controlled by those at the helm, Girishs anger might have been better directed against his own - Mr. Rane &Co. After all, what we are witnessing today may not be so much BJP v/s Congress, but it is more appropriately, Congress camp 1 v/s Congress camp 2 v/s Congress camp 3. And the show goes on! Dr. Francisco Colaco, Margao. Goa. __ Yahoo! Mail - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005 http://mail.yahoo.com -- | 1st Young Goans International Essay contest 2005 | || | Theme: WHAT CAN I DO FOR GOA | | More details at| | http://shire.symonds.net/pipermail/goanet/2005-October/034190.html| --
[Goanet] CLEAN GOA INITIATIVE
-- | Add your name to the CLEAN GOA INITIATIVE | || | by visiting this link and following the instructions therein | || | http://shire.symonds.net/pipermail/goanet/2005-October/033926.html | -- I was happy when Margaret, a dear friend and eminent writer, contacted me about the Clean Goa Initiative, and the morcha that would take place from the Panjim Church to the Mermaid Garden, followed by a public meeting, where several well-known speakers and activists would deliver speeches. I and some of my friends went all the way from Margao and felt happy to lend our support to the initiative. That it was a gathering of elite or intellectuals without mass support it doesn't matter. What is more important is that these eminent people who could have been sitting at home and basking in their glory showed that they are ever ready to prove they are people with a heart, who will refuse to keep silent when Goa bleeds - Goa indeed sits on a time bomb, an epidemic like it happened at Surat looms large in the horizon. There is no room for public Carnivals and tamashas. It is time to pause, ponder, and to act in order to save the Goan paradise from becoming a "land of ghosts". Dr. Francisco Colaco, MD Margao. Goa. Some insights and comments (I am not a journalist or writer, please note and forgive the lapses), about the speeches that found less space in the media:- 3. SANJIT gave a very touching speech, told how everyone from the Municipality works overtime, to clear our mess, how he conducts meetings at various spots and Cooperative societies but the citizens, according to him, lack basic civic sense, leave alone the moral sense of doing the elementary. 40 of the 50 % of non-biodegradable waste are plastic and it is here more than elsewhere that there lies the rub. He gave beautiful statistics, but placed the responsibility squarely on the citizen. He evinced fury and helplessness when in the morning they all clear everything and in the evening the same type of garbage is strewn all over again. He deprecated the tendency of citizens to shut door on the face of municipal workers who come either to collect or to explain. He even brought special temper-free bins with covers from Gujarat,accordinging to him, but there are few takers. He placed himself on that day, rightly or wrongly, as the HERO and the MARTYR. Credit to Sanjit, nevertheless, for having made it to the venue. 4. CLAUDE spoke very well and in a very sober tone, with an air of humility all around him and therefore he sounded all the more convincing, sincere and honest. He stressed all he is doing for so many years and all was well taken by the audience. His credentials are well known to all. Noteworthy was what he said about Costa & Co. of Margao, the great industrialists with a heart. (I must say, departing from the issue, that it may be mentioned, that Dr. Ivo Azaredo, from Vinicola/Costa and Co. does a lot of charity without putting up any airs. It is all silent and many times goes unrecognised. He is one Maddganvkar that away from his profession has proved his mettle, and for sure is going to leave a legacy to the posterity). But, what was noteworthy was that his son Baba (junior Ivo) who also is known for his largesse and philantropy,took part in the morcha. This was unprecedented as businessmen only sit on the fence. Obviously Claude must have done miracles at his factory with EMs (essential microorganism) treatment. 5. OSCAR with his usual verve, mannerism and style gave a fiery speech (Margaret Mascarenhas called it a jazzy speech). He was well prepared and did not stammer or fight for breath even once. He confessed he has no first-hand experience, his is an Internet- kind of knowledge and advice, and gave well-intentioned suggestions. He did not touch upon the problem of incinerators, common agency for disposal with pooled resources for small nursing homes, etc.obviously because time was short. Oscar cleverly deviating from the point had a dig at the politicians and stressed on 2 lasting images that ought to be ingrained in peoples minds. There are four categories of people he said: a) Evil people, with good solutions. b) Evil people with bad solutions. c) Good people with bad solutions. d) Good people with good solutions (e.g., Margaret, Claude, Wendell). OSCAR said We must wage a W-A-R -WILL ACTION - RESOLVE/REFUSAL. RESOLVE to do what is good and REFUSAL to accept what is imposed by the corrupt politician AND IS SIMPLY NOT ACCEPTABLE TO US. 6. SANDESH PRABHUDESSAI, Suna
[Goanet] UDHAY BHEMBRE IS SECULAR
I have just learnt from Mr. Godfrey Gonsalves's appreciated column about the scathing attack of Mr. Mathany Saldanha against Mr. Udhay Bhembre. Apparently, earlier, Mr. Bhembre had filed a report in a Marathi paper criticizing Mathany. I have not yet had access to what Mr. Bhembre allegedly wrote about Mr. Saldanha, but will not hesitate to condemn him for unjustified personal remarks, if any, against Mr. Mathany. Mathany undoubtedly had a glorious innings in the past. But, it was the period when he courted the BJP - keeping a stoic suspicious silence - that unnerved not only his voters, but, in particular, the members of his own community who looked upon him as the would-be discordant voice against a regime known for its propensities! But, now, is it right for Mr. Mathany to denounce Mr. Bhembre as communal or as a hypocrite under the guise of a liberalist? At least I view Mr. Bhembre as a selfless man with undoubted secular credentials. Others may differ. But the various remarks that Mr. Mathany attributes to Mr. Bhembre, are advanced in a puerile and non-convincing manner (I am not going to delve into each and everyone),and according to me do not give Mr. Bhembre a communal colour. I fondly remember, that Bhembres efforts to preserve communal harmony date back to many years ago when together with the revered departed Fr. Martinho Noronha (the then Editor of Renewal), sensing what was going to come, they wrote together the well read column Bridges for Hindu-Christian Dialogue. Since then, I followed this simple and humble man that is Uday, through his deeds and writings, and never had any reason to think or feel he is a communalist. During Parrikars regime, when the seeds of communal discord were being sown, I remember Bhembre was one of the few members of the majority community who raised his voice fearlessly. In fact he was the no. 1 enemy of the Sangh Parivar. And what a shame, those who could have done so much, behaved like His Masters Voice. Bhembre, Datta, Bhatikar, Shridhar transposed the divide to feel the pains and the anguish of a minority that was deliberately being alienated- and,raised their voices courageously. But, above all, Mr. Bhembre,played a signal role during the VCD struggle. He worked tirelessly in those days. In scathing attacks in the Sunaparant and English dailies he nailed the lies of the BJP. He dug into the Marathi original book (quoted as historical source), made a point-by-point study, and came with answers to the innuendo, lies and slander, all meant to give the Catholic community and the Catholic Church the worst name that there could be. This elderly frail man (I refer to Udhay Bhembre) travelled miles to be everywhere to see that the voice of truth and reason was heard, so that minorities would not suffer. None of us would have been capable of doing as much. So lets not condemn Udhay as communal, before taking all things into consideration. In my considered opinion he has done his level best to be truthful to the secular cause, though it may be possible that here and there he might have hurt some sentiments unwittingly. But lets not also condemn Mr. Mathany prematurely. He has had a great past and ahead of him lies a great future. He seems to be fast regaining the spark that made him the gallant crusader of yesteryears. Dr.Francisco Colaço, Margao, Goa __ Click here to donate to the Hurricane Katrina relief effort. http://store.yahoo.com/redcross-donate3/
[Goanet]Floriano's open letter to Mr. Rane
Greetings Floriano, I read with great interest your timely and pertinent open letter to Mr. Rane. In fact, I read it many times over, because it was so good, of course, like everything else that you write and you do. The fighting spirit, the spirit of truth in you, thank God, will never die. But here is a frightening thought for all of us. I have it from reliable sources that, unlike Mr. Parrikar (our common enemy!), who found time to read each and every letter, in each and every newspaper (overreacting of course, to the point of vindictiveness!), Mr. Rane, pitiably, doesnt even seem to find the time to read the bare headlines, in the front page, and that too, of his few favorite daily newspapers. I am told that Rane sometimes even brags that he only goes through the national newspapers. And, then, should his advisors have the audacity to draw his attention to something or the other that has escaped his scrutiny (as it happens most of the times), well, he couldnt care less. So, Floriano, I want you to know that your letter, written in the Goanet (which will presto be flashed in the computer screens all over the world), sadly, will not reach its desired and much-wanted destination: Mr. Rane, the Raja of Goa. And now, with this man at the helm, who prefers to see no evil, hear no evil, and speak no evil, well you can imagine that our sad plight is worse than that of a man shouting on deaf ears. Ranes reflexes (and I have noticed this personally) have obviously slowed down with the passage of time, and ironically, and conveniently too, that allows him to sit tight on most of the issues where he has already made up his mind not to act. Such things come in his good stead and are a perfect alibi for him to sit on the fence when he most desires. For thinking and caring citizens like you and me, however, this is a distressing thought and may prove to be a disaster. When recently we, from the Lok Shakti, went to personally see Mr. Rane (after seeking an appointment of course, since we had become aware that it takes a lot to get his royal attention), to discuss about many issues, including some that you, dear Floriano, rightly raise in your open letter, we must acknowledge, Mr. Rane was extremely polite and gave a patient hearing to our delegation of seven. But that was all. It soon became clear that Mr. Rane had already made up his mind. He just does not want to act against the perpetrators of crimes of IFFI in a jiffy, possibly in deference to its main abettor. While our Datta Naik put lucidly our case, Aravind Bhatikar, another member of our delegation, gave many clear and incontrovertible reasons why it is so easy to start booking the culprits of the IFFI muddle. Mr. Bhatikar - to Mr. Ranes dismay - succinctly even demonstrated how the IFFI/GSIDC crime was a fit case for a CBI probe. CM Rane, however, no matter how much we tried to convince him, well he wants to wait...he wants solid evidence... and then, and only then, he will act (perhaps in a year or two from now, when definitely he will no longer be adorning that august chair). Mr. Rane, during the discussion, has even gone to the extent of telling us, Has any case against any politician been taken to its logical conclusion? Has any politician been ever indicted for his crimes? What do you expect to come out of this? So please, lets not act in a hurry. And that, without doubt, was his way of telling us, I will never act, rest assured. It is so sad that a man like him who has had relatively good innings in the past, is now for a long long time proving to be a liability to all, acting like a quinta coluna, irrespective of whether he is in the proposition or opposition. I know for certain, that within the Congress there are leaders (Ravi Naik in special) who want that the perpetrators of the IFFI crimes should be brought to book, and expeditiously too. Unfortunately nobody wants to take the initiative, because this is made all the more difficult with the gentleman CM (who definitely owes favours to Parrikar) acting the way he is doing. We, of the Lok Shakti, have decided not to give up. We will try to impress upon the High Command to impress upon Mr. Rane that it is necessary to act, for the sake of justice and the people fast, lest the ugly forces in the enemy camp (resting now for a while) raise their ugly heads once more. Further, letting the great looters of the IFFI go away scot-free will send wrong signals to the greedy Ministers within the Congress, who having grabbed the plum portfolios they wanted so much, are already set to embark on a spree of loot and plunder of our beloved Goa. Francisco Dr. Francisco Colaco Margao. Goa __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
[Goanet]Re: Spreading fear through Chain letters
I thoroughly agree with the writer. Francisco Colaco Margao. Goa. --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Spreading fear through chain letters (such and such a pin was found > in a theater and someone got AIDS through it) -- unless these claims are > substantiated through evidence --- should not just be banned, but those > who post such posts should be held liable for any damages caused.
[Goanet]KUDOS TO DR.TONY GOMES
I am so glad that Tony has received yet another award, one more to add to the so many laurels he has received during his glorious career. A cardiologist of great caliber, he is a researcher par excellence, and has written umpteen path-breaking papers and done pioneering research in the field of Cardiology, cardiac electrophysiology in particular. He is rightly rated among the best cardiologists of the world. His biography runs into several pages. Many may not know that besides being a scientist, Tony is also a writer, a poet, has a beautiful baritone voice and plays the guitar with verve and aplomb. Tony is also a humanist, a great lover of Goa, the place of his birth. I consider it as my privilege to be counted among his many admirers and friends. He could have given up on life after the death of his beautiful wife Marina, who passed away prematurely and whom he adored so much. She was the source of his inspiration ? he rightly acknowledges. But, against heavy odds, Tony showed us lesser mortals what it takes to overcome. Rising from the throes of depression, he seems to have gathered the pieces beneath the rubble of shattered dreams, to continue to scale to greater and greater heights. Even to this day Tony gives of his best to all and everywhere, and is sure to carry on in this way until the day when the Reaper with the Scythe will come with a call ? and a beautiful reward too! Congratulations to Tony and thanks my friend for continuing to be the source of inspiration that you have always been to me. A pale shadow of what you are, I confess that in a small way, I try to emulate the shining example that you have set before us all. Francisco (Dr. Francisco Colaço, MD. Largo da Igraja do Espírito Santo, Margao. Goa. INDIA.) __ Do you Yahoo!? Make Yahoo! your home page http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs
Re: [Goanet]Where have those golden songs gone? Where have those times gone?
## # If Goanet stops reaching you, contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # Want to check the archives? http://www.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet/# # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ## Dear Silviano, Well said :- "In any language a song is a song". And that goes without saying and it is so very true. Because a song is song... It is something to be sung, to be heard, to be experienced, to be enjoyed,to be lived. If I grew up with certain songs and those mean so much to me, evoking nostalgic moments and remebrances of days of yore, let no else think less of me. Even to hum those songs it is, as you say, "sheer thrill, pure magic". But today sadly - as in everything else - we have in Goa separate camps. There are those who want only english songs, others only in konkani, or in marathi, or in hindi, etc. Further, for some here, Portuguese songs, for instance, are taboo and smack of anti-nationalism! They should at least take the trouble to read what you wrote, because they don't realize that any song, whichever the language, if well-rendered, is a song, after all. A world to be relived, a symphony of love, melody divine. I for one appreciate every song, in any language, especially if the interpreter (professional or amteur) takes pains to put forth a heartwarming rendition. Those songs that you mention, dear Silviano, and many more, are are also sweet "music to my ears", and I do know the words of many of them. They mean a lot to me also because I too grew up with them and, no sooner the very first note is struck, they bring back feelings of deja vu and of intense emotional satisfaction. But, I must confess, the most beautiful songs (I want to strike a personal chord here), are those Portuguese and Konkanni lilting tunes, that my adored mother taught me while, seated on her lap, I experienced at the same time her warmth and her love, something that I may never be able to experience anew. And,oh, she sang so beautifully! May I be allowed to repeat your words, slightly differently though? "Her singing made me feel good inside, made me laugh, and fall in love, yes, with the wole world". Regards, Francisco Dr. Francisco Colaco, MD Margao. Goa. > all over again. t --- Silviano Barbosa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > ## > # If Goanet stops reaching you, contact > [EMAIL PROTECTED] # > # Want to check the archives? > http://www.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet/# > # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to > reflect respect to others # > ## > > Remember: > > 1) The Young Ones by Cliff Richard (Weren't all of > us in love then?) > 2) Counting Colours in a Rainbow by Nina & > Frederick(Not Noronha) > 3) Tell me Quando Quando, Quando (Pat Boone?) > 4) Come September ( and musical chairs in sports?) > 5) Baby Elephant Walk (Radio Ceylon?) > 6) Things (Bobby Darren?) > (Every night I'm sitting by my window, Staring at > the lovely avenue,, > Watching lovers, holding hands and laughing, > Thinking of the things we used > to do. > 7)Socu, Socu > 8) Underneath the Maango Tree > 9) Wonder like you (Ricky Nelson). Today's version > should have "Taj Mahal) > 11) Corina, Corina > 12) Pearly Shell > 13) One and two and I love you? (Anyone has this > song's lyrics?) > . > > So go ahead and add to the list and let's re-live > those moments once again! > > Those were the good old days! > And today's not so bad. > Tomorrow, who knows? > Forget your worries. > Enjoy the songs. > > I think all those writers/composers of those > popular hit songs should have > been awarded Ph. D. or Nobel Prize. > They really left a huge legacy in this world! > > In any language, a song is a song, a sheer thrill, > pure magic, even though > they are just words in music! > It moves you, makes you feel good inside, makes you > laugh and fall in love > all over again. > > > > __ Do you Yahoo!? Read only the mail you want - Yahoo! Mail SpamGuard. http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail
[Goanet]The Togadia-Goa Affaire
## # If Goanet stops reaching you, contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # Want to check the archives? http://www.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet/# # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ## Dear Floriano, The overall picture you have drawn is very correct and, my God, so horrendous! To be sure, this is one of the most difficult and crucial periods in our history. What we are going through is worse than colonialism, Nazism, all put together. The only silver lining is that more and more people are awakening to the grim reality of what is happening in Goa and are clearly expressing their voices of condemnation despite fear of reprisals. And, God willing, a new era will dawn. Permit me to disagree with you, however, when you refer unfavourably to those who gave press releases by saying "those smart people were waiting for Togadia as a scapegoat, to vent their feelings". May I draw your attention to the fact that many whom you call "smart people" (though they may not have had such a brilliant record as you do), have for long been active opponents of Parrikar's regime and misdeeds, by raising their voices time and again in every possible way even with a good deal of personal sacrifice? I must acknowledge, though, that your record, as far as condemnation of communalism and fundamentalism is concerned, is beyond doubt, impeccable. Few can match the same. Hats off yo you. With affectionate regards, Francisco (Dr. Francisco Colaco,MD) Margao. Goa. __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: [Goanet]Happy Easter
Dear Floriano, May Christ be with you too, and with all your near and dear ones, and May God Help You to continue to be the Crusader for Righteousness, Truth and Peace in India (in a very special way in our beloved Goa) Francisco --- Floriano Lobo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > CHRIST be WITH YOU. > > HAPPY EASTER > > Floriano > > > > ## > # Send submissions for Goanet to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > # > # PLEASE remember to stay on-topic (related to Goa), > and avoid top-posts # > # More details on Goanet at > http://joingoanet.shorturl.com/ # > # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to > reflect respect to others # > ## __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Tax Center - File online by April 15th http://taxes.yahoo.com/filing.html ## # Send submissions for Goanet to [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # PLEASE remember to stay on-topic (related to Goa), and avoid top-posts # # More details on Goanet at http://joingoanet.shorturl.com/ # # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ##
[Goanet]FORUM FOR UNIVERSAL INTEGRATION
The Forum for Universal Integration, which is an Interreligious Group that has come together to promote peace and communal harmony, will organize a public meeting at Lohia Maidan, Margao, on Sunday the 28th of March at 5.00 pm,.to appraise the general public on the need for strengthening goodwill through social and religious harmony. In keeping with the objectives, the Forum has invited eminent personalities from three different faiths who will speak with conviction on the need for building an India where Justice and Freedom can prevail only where there is mutual respect and understanding.. Topic: Goodwill Through Unity Speakers: 1. Swami Agnivesh 2. Moulana Siraj-Ul-Hassan 3. Shri John Dayal Convenors: Datta Mahatme, Housing Board, Vidyanagar, Gogol Margao, Tel. 2750545 Sayed Hassan Mohamed, Casa Vebla, Ascanio da Costa Rd., Margao. Tel 2737455 James Fernandes, AltaMont Society, Ascanio da Costa Rd.,Margao Tel 2736548 Dr.Francisco Colaco __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Finance Tax Center - File online. File on time. http://taxes.yahoo.com/filing.html ## # Send submissions for Goanet to [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # PLEASE remember to stay on-topic (related to Goa), and avoid top-posts # # More details on Goanet at http://joingoanet.shorturl.com/ # # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ##
[Goanet]Gomant Vishwa Samelan
It is now fairly apparent that the Gomant Vishwa Samelan was not a stunning success as it is being claimed. On the contrary, it was much below expectations and went awry in many ways.The NRIs were not more than thirty and the acronym was quickly changed to NRGs, as a group of distinguished Goans from Mumbai, saved the day for the organizers. Therefore the report filed by a netizen reads more like an official report. Even our submissive print media, while letting down the Conference in fine print, were willing to clap loudly when merely asked to put their hands together. One would tend to agree with Aires Rodrigues that it was an expensive, non cost-effective venture, mostly stage-managed, that benefitted just a few and was meant to add to the "glory" of the ruling coalition. Dr. Francisco Colaco __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Hotjobs: Enter the "Signing Bonus" Sweepstakes http://hotjobs.sweepstakes.yahoo.com/signingbonus ## # Send submissions for Goanet to [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # PLEASE remember to stay on-topic (related to Goa), and avoid top-posts # # More details on Goanet at http://joingoanet.shorturl.com/ # # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ##
[Goanet]Rajan Narayan
The systematic campaign against Rajan Narayan by some of his detractors is sickening. What is more, it is not being done on weekly or daily instalments, but almost on an hourly basis. Even when it involves facts and issues one would expect any criticism to be done with some amount of charity. Rajan may be no saint and, let him apologize for his sins of commission or omission. Personally, I also do not agree with all he does. But few would doubt about his commitment to Goa and the Goans. Whether it was the Congress or the BJP rule he has preferred to remain in the opposition. Sycophancy has assured benefits, but to oppose takes courage and sacrifice. Despite severe constraints, Rajan, has fearlessly opted for the latter. He has fought many a battle single-handedly and faced a lot of risks. He may have gone overboard at times. But, to say that he is inflaming passions, or playing to the galleries is not fair. In fact it is the other way round. In his thousands of editorials he has dissected matters admirably well, digging from his amazing library of recorded events, so much so that rulers have tried to avoid a head-on collision about the issues raised by him. To be sure, he almost always backs his criticism with facts. What is more surprising though is that some of his critics have come all the way to find faults with him when they do not even bother to say a single word against the present dispensation. Isn't there a feeling today that the minorities are being sidelined? Isn't there a general clamour that there's a virtual takeover of the police, education and cultural departments? Havent we a situation where the boss wants his diktat to be heard without any dissenting voice? In such circumstances, how many come forward to raise their voices in protest? As things stand today, I feel, theres utter need of a forum where one can express views without shackles; where editors can write freely without being dictated by the narrow interests of the management. If IGO is found wanting in this regard and there are loopholes in the way it is being planned, and these remain unattended to, let's find an alternative. But a free, independent newspaper that fights for a clean, prosperous, secular and pluricultural Goa is the need of the hour. Let the critics lead from the top and show the way. Francisco Colaco, MD __ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com ## # Send submissions for Goanet to [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # PLEASE remember to stay on-topic (related to Goa), and avoid top-posts # # More details on Goanet at http://joingoanet.shorturl.com/ # # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ##
Re: [Goanet]Fred deserves better
I would also like to place on record my deep appreciation for all that Fred Noronha is doing. Though I have never met him in person,I hold him in high esteem for all he is doing for Goa and Goans. I have been following his writings closely for many years whether they concern investigative journalism, cybernews or anything else. He deserves all praise. I only hope he doesn't get discouraged from his good work by any criticism which is part of life of sincere and intrepid journalists like him. Francisco Colaco --- Cecil Pinto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The vile comments made on GoaNet against Frederick > Noronha have to > condemned by any right thinking person. I have known > Fred for a few years > now, in real life and on the Net. I will not > hesitate to say that he has > done more for Goa and Goans than so many others who > can merely blast their > mouths off, and do precious nothing. > > About two years back there was this controversy > about Goa Today magazine > (with which I was associated at the time) shifting > over their online > edition from Goa-World.Net to GoaCom.Com. I was > given to understand at the > time that Fred had played some dirty politics in > favour of GoaCom. This > resulted in a lot of acrimony between me and him - > and a lot of others > involved. It was later proved that Fred had nothing > to do with the > incidents and it was just a false story spread by > certain people with > vested interests in harming Fred's reputation. > > Fred and me still have major disagreements on > various issues but there is > no denying that he is a giant among the do-ers in > the Goan Community. With > his humble and self effacing ways he goes about > building community links, > informing us about issues, and working till the wee > hours towards a better > tomorrow for Goa and Goans. Criticising a person's > statements is one thing > and attacking him as a person is another. > > As Fred himself says, "Let us agree to disagree", > but such venomous > attacks, as have been recently forthcoming, are > despicable and I think have > to be condemned by any right thinking Goan, > specially those of us who > inhabit the cyber Goan community. > > I hold Fred in the highest esteem for all the good > that he does. There are > thousands of us Goans who have someway benefited > from Fred's hard work. I > myself can say that despite our differences in > opinion... > (a) Fred has always been encouraging me in my > 'writing' endeavors > (b) Fred has often given me advise on > Computer/Internet issues. > (c) Fred has helped Aldonkars time and again with > his expertise and > contacts - to secure funds and form and manage > online communities. > (d) Fred's articles have often inspired me to do > further research or pursue > a particular line of thinking. > (e) Etc, etc > > Consider for a moment that Fred does all this for > free, without seeking any > payment, then you will realise that he is NOT a > mediocre journalist but > rather an 'extraordinary' human being. > > Keep up the good work Fred, and don't let these > pesky irrelevant pests > bother you. > > Cecil > === > > > ## > # Send submissions for Goanet to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > # > # PLEASE remember to stay on-topic (related to Goa), > and avoid top-posts # > # More details on Goanet at > http://joingoanet.shorturl.com/ # > # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to > reflect respect to others # > ## __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com ## # Send submissions for Goanet to [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # PLEASE remember to stay on-topic (related to Goa), and avoid top-posts # # More details on Goanet at http://joingoanet.shorturl.com/ # # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ##
Re: [Goanet]SORROWING LIES MY LAND
Dear Aires, The situation is indeed depressing,if not desperate, especially if we one comes to realise that Parrikar has been propped up to that important position with the help of our own Judases. But it is nice that you contnue to ardently campaign for secularism and harmony in our beloved Goa. I pray every day that God only may help. Francisco Colaco --- airesrod <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > It would be relatively safe to classify Goa as one > of the most corrupt if > not the No 1 corrupt State of India. Goa might have > inherited the "susegad" > syndrome from the Portuguese, but from where the > vice of corruption > originates may be a matter warranting academic > investigation. > > Corruption has become embedded in our Society over > the years and to add to > it secular Goans now have to endure a bigger evil, > the curse of > saffronisation empowered by Chief Minister Manohar > Parrikar since he took > over the reins of office. > > Corruption is an evil but the systematic > saffronisation unleashed by the BJP > in our otherwise secular State is the greatest evil > which is eroding the > secular fabric of Goa. > > Politicians have been known for the promises they > make and vows they renege > on. Parrikar has projected development by > constituting so many corporations > and announcing so many schemes which are > unsustainable. > > He initiates schemes to ensure that the > beneficiaries are only his cadres. > Once his party men are accommodated the scheme goes > into limbo. We have seen > the fate of Dayanand Social Security Scheme which > was announced before he > suddenly dissolved the Goa Assembly last year. > > While he has been announcing so many schemes in > recent days one wonders > whether he is planning another visit to the Raj > Bhavan. With the present > incumbent, Governor Sahani a hard core RSS, Parrikar > will get a faster > consent. Not that the then Governor Mohammed Fazal > hesitated to oblige by > dissolving the Assembly and instantly putting a > huge financial burden on > the state exchequer by necessitating a fresh > election, only to once again > yield another fractured mandate. > > The three coalition ministers have committed > political suicide by being led > blindfolded into the saffron BJP. The only one of > the lot who may survive > the crash is Transport Minister Pandurang Madkaikar > on account of his > personal charisma and political maturity. But Chief > Minister was able to > lure Madkaikar who may realise the folly a bit too > late. > > Parrikar has been haunting the opposition MLA's with > cases of > disproportionate assets. What about his own > colleagues and other office > bearers of his party? He should not pick and choose > and try to project his > Government as a clean one when we all know how > corrupt and despicable his > Government's functioning is. In the other regimes > corruption was apparent > but under Chief Minister though the corruption is > very prevalent, it is > behind the scenes and sophisticated. > > Today every department is controlled by Chief > Minister Manohar Parrikar. > Honest officers feel suffocated and disgusted but > have no other option > except to follow the whims and fancies of the > despot. > > He virtually controls every decision taken by the > police department. The > latest Taleigao parading of the accused half naked > was something that was > pre-meditated and not something that took place at > the spur of the moment. > This despicable act had the blessings from the top > political bosses who > compelled the low ranking police officers to act > against their wishes. The > officers are facing the music as the political > bosses as usual relax and > watch. > > Chief Minister Parrikar may be an IIT but as once > described by a > prominent senior politician even an ITI mechanic > would deliver better. > > The time has come for the secular forces to forget > their personal > differences, ego's and ambitions to rally as one > vocal force to oppose and > defeat the communal and casteist BJP in the best > interests of the future > generation. Caste and creed should not determine > the prospects of our > children whose ancestors were born and brought up in > a very secular society. > > The BJP has to be laid to eternal rest in Goa and at > the Centre as Mr > Vajpapee's mission is no different although he has > tried to project himself > as a secular person. The mask has fallen and his > true colours stand vividly > exposed. > > Aires Rodrigues > Ribandar > > > >
[Goanet] The demise of Portuguese language in Goa?
Recently Cabral e Sa in his View from Mandovi wrote that Portugals interest in India (Goa, if one must be specific) is on a course of diminishing returns and, I too agree with him, when he says that even at this late stage theres need to have more cultural and social projects between the two countries. What can have brought such a thing to pass? Certainly the desire to repeatedly, sometimes unduly and unnecessarily, harp on things like Inquisition, Colonial Repression, etc. And that has understandably helped to generate an atmosphere of hate towards Portugal and anything that is Portuguese. But the historical reality today must be considered. Portugal, as everyone knows, has gone through turbulent times transitioning itself from a monarchy into a repressive dictatorial regime, until one fine morning the coup détat of twenty -fifth of April paved the way to freedom there. Ever since one thing is noticeable. The affable Portuguese people while trying to retain the many good things they have inherited from the past, seem to evince a keen desire - I am told -to forget some unfortunate black moments of the past. But let us admit, the Portuguese regime is an entirely different one today, as democratic, as free and forward-looking as ours. I have always been an opponent of the Salazars regime, but it saddens me to see so much gall against Portuguese customs and language. It really pains me to see what is happening today. Let anyone say even a few words in Portuguese and he will immediately be considered to be suffering from colonial hangover. When a beautiful Portuguese ballad or Fado is sung, the so-called patriots of old times - or should I call them perennial turncoats will pretend to look the other way. And to cap it all there are those who say: Portuguese is a grandmothers language, the meaning of which being that the language is outdated having failed to keep itself abreast with the modern times. Nothing is further from the truth. I have had the good fortune of being amongst those here in Goa who had a chance to have a first-hand knowledge of the works of the great Portuguese writers, both contemporary and archaic, and thus, I am in a privileged position to say, how much I would have missed if I had never had an opportunity to be exposed to them. Their writings are of the first water, very revolutionary, very readable, and very modern. Even today when I surf the net for Portuguese portals, I am seized of the fact that the Portuguese language - with a little help from the Brazilians of course -, has become a vibrant, flexible and upbeat medium of communication. The Portuguese world is making contributions in the literary, educational and even the medical field. Therefore let us promote better socio-cultural ties with Portugal, if not for anything else, at least to prevent the Portuguese language from disappearing from the red soil of Goa. And by doing so we will have nothing to loose and so much to gain. After all Portuguese is the third most-spoken language in the world, the knowledge of which makes it also easier to grasp other Latin languages, providing the gateway to myriad opportunities abroad. Admittedly it is a language that is difficult to master but nothing is too difficult to those who are willing to try. The unnecessary animosity toward Portugal and the Portuguese language, as things stand today, must cease. Or else we will provide our detractors with a reason to believe it to be nothing more, nothing less. than a case of sour grapes. DR.FRANCISCO COLAÇO __ Do you Yahoo!? SBC Yahoo! DSL - Now only $29.95 per month! http://sbc.yahoo.com ## # Send submissions for Goanet to [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # PLEASE remember to stay on-topic (related to Goa), and avoid top-posts # # More details on Goanet at http://joingoanet.shorturl.com/ # # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ##
[Goanet] RSS and the Pope.
This is with reference to the RSS reaction vis-à-vis what the Pope is reported to have said recently, which Frederick was kind enough to place on the net. Do the RSS really feel threatened by such remarks, it may be pertinent to ask? I do not think so. Pope is a man of peace, abhors violence and, will never interfere directly or indirectly, in someone elses internal affairs. No matter if he is sometimes given the credit to have overthrown the Soviet empire by his charisma, and the power of prayer. The Christians are a small minority in India and their numbers are sadly dwindling. In spite of that the RSS does choose to indulge once in a while in their favorite pastime: Christian bashing. It is said the Christians are a soft target and thats what makes them so vulnerable. But there is another reason. The fundamentalists apparently take recourse to such unnecessary means simply to polarize the society and, politicians, lend credence to what they say, to secure votes. Hardly do they realize that the great majority of Hindus is intelligent, enlightened and secular. And that is what keeps us going. Almost every month or so we read that a catholic priest has been done to death across the border in Pakistan. Then that a church or a convent has been ransacked in India. Lest one looses the desire to live in an atmosphere so charged as this, the words of our beloved Pope bring some consolation, not a worldly one though: The Christian has not been called upon this earth for a life of comfort, he must suffer like Christ. Francisco Colaço __ Do you Yahoo!? SBC Yahoo! DSL - Now only $29.95 per month! http://sbc.yahoo.com ## # Send submissions for Goanet to [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # PLEASE remember to stay on-topic (related to Goa), and avoid top-posts # # More details on Goanet at http://joingoanet.shorturl.com/ # # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ##
[Goanet] Father Chico Monteiro
The article by Dom Martin on Fr. Chico Monteiro makes heart-warming reading and I am indebted to Bernado Colaço for making it available to me, as well as other Goanet readers. As Fr.Chicos nephew, please allow me to thank Dom on behalf of the entire family and recall the deep appreciation and the highest esteem in which my revered uncle held him. Beneath a diminutive stature, a soft, almost feminine figure and face, there was in Fr. Chico a will of steel and a heart of gold. He made no secret that he drew his strength from his deep faith in Jesus Christ. Like St. Paul he often said For me to live is Christ and to die is gain. His life, from cradle to grave, was one dedicated to God.His favourite words that were said about Pius XII, aptly applied to him too: Pés firme na Terra, olhos postos no Céu. Feet firm on the ground, eyes looking in the direction of Heaven. His living was Spartan; he slept on a wooden bed, shunning all comforts. A great part of his long nights was spent in prayer before the altar of God. His last days - I remember vividly - gave him an opportunity to be even more Christ-like as was his wish. He tended lovingly every aged priest under his tutelage at the Clergy Home that the Archbishop entrusted to his loving care. He dressed the wounds, cleansed the soiled beds, and kept long vigils at night by the bedside of those who were sick and bedridden. When he exhaled his last breath the name of Jesus was in his lips. Had he been an activist, not a priest Dom rightly says - he might have gained a lot of kudos, mundane glory. But that was not to be. He would have not wanted it either. And never mind! More important, is the fact that Fr. Chicos noble example, has not been in vain. Though he is no more he still lives on through the myriad of lives he touched. As Dom rightly concludes at the end of his literary masterpiece: - the seed that was sown and drifted into oblivion found its prodigious sprout some place else. And I might add, it did sprout in the place he always longed for Francisco Colaco __ Do you Yahoo!? SBC Yahoo! DSL - Now only $29.95 per month! http://sbc.yahoo.com ## # Send submissions for Goanet to [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # PLEASE remember to stay on-topic (related to Goa), and avoid top-posts # # More details on Goanet at http://joingoanet.shorturl.com/ # # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ##
