Re: [Goanet] Fr. Jorda at Loyola High School
Fr. Jorda S.J. was my first Principal at Loyola High School, Margão in 1944-1945. He was an admirable individual, a great soul and I have vivid memories of that time. Yes, he did preach in Konkani once (which amazed a lot of people) at the Chapel of St. Lowrence in Arossim. I am not sure if he read the sermon from a prepared text written by someone else. There may be some records in the archives at Loyola. Themistocles on 06/07/2006 9:07 AM, Teotonio R. de Souza at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The Jesuits were banned a third time in Portugal from operating from the Portuguese territories in 1910, when the Portuguese republic was proclaimed. The Jesuits had to function from elsewhere in Europe or from the British India! They operated in Goa from their base at St. Paul's, Belgaum. From 1940 Salazar opened the field for the Jesuits and other Portuguese Padroado missionaries after signing an «Acordo Missionário» in 1940 with the Vatican. That is when the Goa archdiocese invited Jesuits from Belgaum to take over its St. Theotonio High School in Margão. It has lost its recognition from the Bombay Board of Education for SSC. The Jesuits then invited the Bombay Province Jesuit Fr. Jorda to be the first principal of St. Theotonio High School, which was re-named Loyola High School. Fr. Jorda could only stay there for one year and it was Fr. Claude Saldanha who then took over as Principal. Within a year the school was recognized once again by the Bombay University Matric Board. I wonder if Fr. Jorda could have learned any Konkani during that short span of time, or if its was not some other Goan Jesuits, including Fr. Claude Saldanha, author of a «Short History of Goa» who prepared the material! Teotonio R. de Souza Date: Wed, 07 Jun 2006 01:09:08 -0400 From: eric pinto [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Goanet] Our Language Saga, Vowel Wars. To: goanet@goanet.org Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 A Barcelona Jesuit, Pe. Jorda, published a Konkanni-English in the 40's Perhaps a first for the language. He was transferred to Brazil in the 50's, Where he served out his teaching career. I want to believe that he conducted Konkanni classes for children there, and he likely did ! Perhaps Teotonio Can tell US more. _ Do not post admin requests to the list. Goanet mailing list (Goanet@goanet.org) _ Do not post admin requests to the list. Goanet mailing list (Goanet@goanet.org)
Re: [Goanet]One more Goan Bishop!
Info about Bishop Alwyn Barreto; The biographical info about the newly appointed Bishop was obtained from our well-known Goan historian/priest Fr. Nascimento Mascarenhas. Sindhudurg is a new Diocese created by Pope Benedict XVI on July 6th, 2005, and the first Bishop appointed is Fr. Alwyn Barreto, from Siolim, Bardez. This new Diocese comprises of districts of Sindhudurg, Ratnagiri and Kholapur, except Kholapur City. These territories are separated from Poona Diocese. It will now be a suffragan of Bombay Archdiocese. Earlier all these territories were called Territorios de Gates, under Goa Archdiocese. The Diocese of Sindhudurg has a catholic population of only 28,500 in 17 churches and is served by 41 priests and 93 nuns. The Bishop-elect was born in Mapuca on 22nd December, 1952. He did all his initial studies (six years) at Diocesan Minor Seminary of Saligao-Pilerne and and then his Philosophy at St. Charles Seminary, Nagpur, and theology at Papal Seminary, Pune. He was ordained priest for the Diocese of Poona on October 13, 1979 and completed his sacerdotal silver jubilee in 2004. Of these 25 years, he has spent 24 years working in the Sindhudurg District. For the last eight years and half he was the Dean of the area. We wish him well as the new Shepherd of Christ. Themistocles on 07/06/2005 9:20 AM, Salus Correia at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Message: 7 Date: Wed, 6 Jul 2005 17:49:04 +1000 (EST) From: Gabriel de Figueiredo [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Goanet]One more Goan Bishop! To: goanet@goanet.org Reply-To: goanet@goanet.org --- Salus Correia [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: He appointed Fr. Anthony Alwyn Fernandes Barreto of the clergy of Poona, pastor of the parish of the Immaculate Conception in Vengurla, as bishop of the new diocese. The bishop-elect was born in Goa-Damao, India in 1952 and ordained a priest in 1979. The statement re place of birth is incorrect, as in 1952, Goa-Damao was not in the Republic of India, but was the then-called Estado da India Portuguesa. Cheers, Gabriel de Figueiredo. Melbourne - Australia. __ Gabriel, Maybe what you say is right, but all I did was to quote from the Vatican News Service, word for word. Secondly, I dont think it is relevant at all. Goa has been and always will be a part of the Indian subcontinent. best! Salus
Re: [Goanet]SAD DEMISE- Mr Y D CHOWGULE INDUSTRIALIST MINE OWNER
on 07/05/2005 6:21 AM, godfrey gonsalves at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: He was also the first Municipal President of the Mormugao Municipal Council. He was also the President of the Goa Chamber of Commerce, Goa Mineral Exporters Association and several other social cultural and religious groups and ranked as the pioneer industrialist of Goa. _ Mr. Gonsalves may have to clarify the above statement with a time frame that Mr. Chowgule held the position of the President of Mormugao Municipal Council. To my knowledge the Municipality of Mormugao was created in 1919 when it was separated from Salcete. According to Aleixo Manuel da Costa, in Dicionario da Literatura Goesa, vol.I, p.122, Mr. Antonio Vicente de Braganca Cunha, from Cuelim (brother of Tristao Braganca Cunha) served as President of Camara Municipal of Mormugao from 1919 to 1922. Hence, I would consider A.V. Braganca Cunha as the first President of the Municipality of Mormugao. Themistocles
[Goanet]FW: Shipment of Books
Below is the response I received from Asia Foundation regarding books to India. Themistocles -- From: Newton X. Liu [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 18 May 2005 14:00:35 -0700 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Shipment of Books Dear T.D.: Thank you for contacting us. We tried to send books to India but the Consulate General here in San Francisco told us that India doesn't need books. We disagree but there are more work to do for books to reach India. With best regards, Newton Liu Bridge to Asia www.bridge.org -Original Message- From: Themistocles D'Silva [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, May 14, 2005 3:05 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Shipment of Books I would like to know if Asia Foundation ship books to India? Thanks TDSilva
Re: [Goanet]Shipping books to Goa
I have been making inquiries on shipping books to Goa/India for many years. It is not easy. The problem was (it may have changed recently) the Indian customs and India's strict regulations. As a student in 1960's some of us helped a South Indian Jesuit and a Professor pack scores of boxes with books donated by the libraries and shipped to colleges and schools in Kerala. Asia Foundation delivered it free and it still does this service to many countries, except India. They do not want to deal with the government roadblocks. About four years ago I talked to the Librarian at the Goa University if the University would be willing to take technical books if offered and he willingly accepted and even to pay the shipping costs, deal with the customs, etc. So I packed about 15 boxes, totaling 15 cu.ft. (over 200 books). An agent in Goa made all the necessary contacts, but later I was surprised to learn that the budget was cut and the University could not pay for it. The shipping cost was not much. It reached Bombay in about six weeks but languished at the customs for three months! If someone can get the attention of your representative(s) in Parliament and change the present restrictive policies, many libraries will be the beneficiaries. Themistocles on 05/14/2005 2:37 AM, Cecil Pinto at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Cornel wrote: Akin to this, another possibility is to ship 'discarded' library books to institutions in Goa. Such discarded books are invariably not that old at all. They are simply discarded to make space for newer stocks. Clearly, there is the cost of sending them across to different destinations where they may be wanted but one embassy in London that I know has collected and shipped books from UK academics and their institutional libraries for use in home institutions in the Caribbean rather than see some excellent books pulped. - Dear Cornel, I too have heard of perfectly good condition Public Library books in the USA used as landfill to make way for new stocks on the shelves. What a crying shame. If some initiative is made towards shipping good condition books to Goa I would like to be part of it. For starters I can assure you of a safe well-maintained place for, and public access to, at least 2000 books at the Aldona Institute library which has some empty bookshelves and a paid library-in-charge. Also I am sure local schools will willingly accept and make good use of such books. Cecil ==
[Goanet]Historical information on Vasco and Mormugao
This message is on behalf of Fr. Nascimento Mascarenhas who is presently collecting information of historical importance on the twin cities of Vasco da Gama and Mormugao. If any of the old timers and historians happen to hold and cherish some old memories, such as photographs or documents, Fr. Nascimento would love to have them and enrich our history for the benefit of future generations in his forthcoming book. Apparently, there are no records of interest in the various government offices in these cities and is very much frustrated by the ignorance and lack of interest in preserving old records. Any help you can give will be greatly appreciated by him. You may contact him directly by e-mail at [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Tel. 011-91-832-2512391 or at St. Andrew's Church, Vasco da Gama, Goa. He specifically requests: documentation and especially old photos of Vasco and Mormugao ... wards. Kindly name [and date] the photograph from which area it is. I know there was power house in Baina, but no-body seems to know when it was founded during the portuguese regime. It is now in ruins and no sign of its foundation anywhere; as well as the railway bridge built by Britishers, now in Desterro parish near oil companies. When some years back the authorities wanted to demolish it to make way for its extension they used gelatins to destroy it and even then they did not succeed. But in the end it was rased to the ground and the present one built. It dos not bring the date of re-building also..This date is also not there. The old little cottages in the Municipality property in Vasco with beautiful gardens in front are gone an big buildings have come. Now they look ugly and the city too planned by Luis A. Maravilhas an engineer of repute who worked here in Mormugao in 1916, had planned a beautiful city circa 1922 and some things executed that too have disappeared. What remains now are buildings in ruins. The city of Mormugao was planned three times earlier than Maravilhas' plan, but not executed well and yet it is Goa's industrial and commercial city May be also other Goans who may have not have resided in Mormugao-Vasco also have some documentation, photographs etc
[Goanet]Visas to India
## # If Goanet stops reaching you, contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # Want to check the archives? http://www.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet/# # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ## Can anyone explain why it is difficult now for US citizens, who formerly held Pakistani passports to obtain tourist visas to India? There was no problem last year or in the past. TDS
[Goanet]Article in The Guardian on Gujarat
http://www.guardian.co.uk/india/story/0,12559,1042180,00.html Heart of darkness As a young backpacker Luke Harding found India charming and eccentric. Fifteen years later he returned as the Guardian's correspondent. Now, after finishing his time there, he recalls how one terrible incident of sectarian violence in Gujarat brought his love affair with the country to an end. Monday September 15, 2003 The Guardian ## # Send submissions for Goanet to [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # PLEASE remember to stay on-topic (related to Goa), and avoid top-posts # # More details on Goanet at http://joingoanet.shorturl.com/ # # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ##
[Goanet]Need info.
Would appreciate if someone in Portugal could send me the address /Tel. No. of the Silva-Rosa¹s (Goan family), since I would like to re-establish contact with them. The sisters Margarida (Guida), Branca, Tereza and Fatima live in Lisbon. T.D'Silva ## # Send submissions for Goanet to [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # PLEASE remember to stay on-topic (related to Goa), and avoid top-posts # # More details on Goanet at http://joingoanet.shorturl.com/ # # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ##
Re: [Goanet]Re:chirputtam/Physalis
The following is from the global Compendium of Weeds hope page. http://www.hear.org/gcw/html/autogend/species/14698.HTM A possible explanation or etymology of the word Chirputtam. See below: Physalis minima Synonyms/other Latin names: Physalis lagascae Roem. Schult. (see) Common name(s): gooseberry, wild gooseberry, pygmy groundcherry, native gooseberry, chirphoti, chirpotoka, chirpotyo, papotan, pipat, Chinese lanternplant, thong theng Status(es) (compiled from below Data sources): Weed~Naturalised~Introduced~Garden Escape~Environmental Weed Data sources: 39~55~66~86~87~88~93~121~209~228~239~269~286~287~297 NOTE: for now (until database/website are updated), you must manually search for each data source in the GWC Data Sources document.) Origin (native to where): Australia Environmental extremes tolerated: Arid Cultivated - Toxic - Medicinal/culinary uses ## # Send submissions for Goanet to [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # PLEASE remember to stay on-topic (related to Goa), and avoid top-posts # # More details on Goanet at http://joingoanet.shorturl.com/ # # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ##