[Goanet] Invest in Goa before it's too late - Lyrics of Konkani song by Remmie J. Colaco!
Recently, many have expressed concern about sale of properties in Goa and some have even suggested/advised not to sell ancestral homes and properties to outsiders because they fear fairly soon there will be fewer Goans in Goa as compared to non-Goans! Our tiatrists are always a step ahead in their action because they, too, have a vision for Goa; they keep a close watch on day-to-day happenings in Goa. The moment they come across a situation or a problem, whether it is political or social, they compose songs and pass on their message to the public through tiatros. What is being said today was noticed a long time ago by the veteran all-rounder of the Konkani stage, Remmie J. Colaco. Remmie, composed and sang the following song about 25 years ago. In the early 1960s the value of land was 25 to 50 paise per square meter (the aframentos in Porvorim were available for 50 paise per square meter) and the same rose to about Rs.300/- per sq. meter in the early 1980s. Today, the value of land in main areas and by the seashore is about Rs.2500-3000 per square meter; the rate is almost double in towns and cities. After Remmie witnessed what was going on at that time, he highlighted the situation through the song and requested Goans not to dispose of what was rightfully theirs. If the outsiders are buying our houses and properties because there is great scope for business, why not keep the properties and reap the fruits ourselves? Here are the lyrics of the song SUDHAROP: I Goenkar ami sobit ganv amcho Goa Vegim ganvan amchea boreaponn dhadd Deva Dhor ek Goenkar bhava, hea movba thava Ganvam passot zagrut rava Chorus Irlem-irlem korun atam, Goenchem sudharop zata Tea bhair dondo korunk mevta mhunn, zaito lok danvon ieta Konnaimchii zomin mevot tor, bore duddu divn geta Duddvank bhulonakai, zomin vinkinakai, Goyeam zolmolelea puta II Vis vorsam pattim Goyeam vag asle ranan Punn te vag atam povle bhion minank Thodde Goenkar mhunno, Goyem zai konnank Punn atam bottam ghaltat tonddan Chorus Thodde zann Goyem naka mhunn vinkun gelele bhattam Thoddeanim vavr poddta mhunn sovai vinklelim xetam Sothechem aslem tem vinkun zoddunk gelele nottam Bhava chear anneanim metr zomin asleli ti tinxim rupianim zali atam III Sonvsaran sothek zuzta dhor ek nasanv Punn ami ekvott nam zavn kallukan assanv Zorui soglleanchem amchem ek zait tensanv Vegim voir sortolo amcho ganv Chorus Atam ami dondo kelear, fuddarak voir sortele Nam tor sodankal lokager basnnam ghansunk urtele Sothechem asam tem vinklear, eka tempar roddtele Magir Goyeam ietoch, ghoram nam zavn, baddeachea ghoran ravche poddtele From Doms antique shelf! Moi-mogan, Domnic Fernandes Anjuna/Dhahran, KSA
[Goanet] Invest in Goa...
Hi Patrick, Your idea to set up an Anglo-Indian school or any other educational institution is a welcome one. Go ahead and dont get discouraged. The Goa government is planning to make Goa a knowledge destination by establishing knowledge parks and educational estates. If you want any help please feel free to write to me at the email address given below. Regards Richard Cabral [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Goanet] Invest in Goa before it's too late
--- Bosco D'Mello [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri Jan 20 2006 03:04:26 PST cornel wrote: I am familiar with the story about Goan worker expertise being discovered by the Brits during the Napoleonic wars. I'd like to read some of this in texts if possible. On Fri Jan 20, 2006 3:56 AM Gabriel de Figueiredo wrote: If I may add, the movement appears to have started right after the Napoleanic wars, when the Brits (who were stationed in Goa during that period) discovered that Goans made good butlers, waiters and cooks, were sufficiently 'westernised' and loved to travel (as opposed to the rest of Indians who were afraid of crossing the Kala Pani) - I suppose that was the beginning of the ABC era! RESPONSE: If possible would Cornel and Gabriel kindly suggest the bibliography to historical tracts of info on Goa with relation to the above and/or other sources. Thank you. Best - Bosco Bosco, I have replied in part to Cornel's query. In addition, I just remebered, there is a British cemetery a Dona Paula bearing several graves of British servicemen. I think this is just outside the entrance to the Palacio do Cabo (Raj Niwas as it is known today). Cheers, Gabriel de Figueiredo. Melbourne - Australia. Do you Yahoo!? Find a local business fast with Yahoo! Local Search http://au.local.yahoo.com
Re: [Goanet] Invest in Goa before it's too late
--- cornel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Gabriel I am familiar with the story about Goan worker expertise being discovered by the Brits during the Napoleonic wars. I'd like to read some of this in texts if possible. Thanks again Cornel Hi Cornel, Scanning my scant library of books on Goa, I came across this in a text on Goa: A traveller's historical and architectural guide by Anthony Hutt: ... in 1798 the Marquis of Wellesley decided it was necessarry to defend Goa against both the French and their ally Tipu Sultan, ruler of Mysore. A fleet was sent to Goa but was politely rejected by the Portuguese Viceroy and left, but returned in 1799 ... and disembarked British troops near the Fort Aguada ... most of the troops were removed by 1810 ..., the rest only left in 1813. But try as I might, I could not lay my hands on an authorative text that would have indicated that this led to the beginnings of the Goan exodus. PS Hope all is quiet now on the beach front (Sydney) Australia All apears back to normal on the Sydney front. However, not being there in person, I cannot say. Meanwhile, Melbourne's beaches appear to be pretty much docile, and we're off to the bayside for a some summer fun later this week, which marks Australia Day, and will be definitely proud to fly Australia's colours on that day - which happens to be same date as India's Republic Day. Incidentally, yesterday and today one would have been roasted this part of the world with temperatures hitting 42 deg celsius for most part of the day, and more of the same expected around Australia Day. Lucky for most, either they have refrigerated a/c or evaporative coolers; as for the rest, it was a day well spent at the local air-conditioned shopping centres or the community swimming pools. Regards, Gabriel de Figueiredo. Melbourne - Australia. Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Movies: Check out the Latest Trailers, Premiere Photos and full Actor Database. http://au.movies.yahoo.com
[Goanet] Invest in Goa before it's too late
On Fri Jan 20 2006 03:04:26 PST cornel wrote: I am familiar with the story about Goan worker expertise being discovered by the Brits during the Napoleonic wars. I'd like to read some of this in texts if possible. On Fri Jan 20, 2006 3:56 AM Gabriel de Figueiredo wrote: If I may add, the movement appears to have started right after the Napoleanic wars, when the Brits (who were stationed in Goa during that period) discovered that Goans made good butlers, waiters and cooks, were sufficiently 'westernised' and loved to travel (as opposed to the rest of Indians who were afraid of crossing the Kala Pani) - I suppose that was the beginning of the ABC era! RESPONSE: If possible would Cornel and Gabriel kindly suggest the bibliography to historical tracts of info on Goa with relation to the above and/or other sources. Thank you. Best - Bosco
Re: [Goanet] Invest in Goa before it's too late
Hi Gabriel I am familiar with the story about Goan worker expertise being discovered by the Brits during the Napoleonic wars. I'd like to read some of this in texts if possible. Thanks again Cornel PS Hope all is quiet now on the beach front (Sydney) Australia - Original Message - From: Gabriel de Figueiredo [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Goa's premiere mailing list, estb. 1994! goanet@goanet.org Sent: Friday, January 20, 2006 3:56 AM Subject: Re: [Goanet] Invest in Goa before it's too late --- cornel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Aloysius Here's just a short response to your post. In an increasingly globalised world, there is an accelerated and substantial movement of people everywhere. In Goa this movement began over a century ago and that is why there is a large Goan Diaspora. If I may add, the movement appears to have started right after the Napoleanic wars, when the Brits (who were stationed in Goa during that period) discovered that Goans made good butlers, waiters and cooks, were sufficiently 'westernised' and loved to travel (as opposed to the rest of Indians who were afraid of crossing the Kala Pani) - I suppose that was the beginning of the ABC era! Cheers, Gabriel. Do you Yahoo!? Find a local business fast with Yahoo! Local Search http://au.local.yahoo.com
Re: [Goanet] Invest in Goa before it's too late
--- cornel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Aloysius Here's just a short response to your post. In an increasingly globalised world, there is an accelerated and substantial movement of people everywhere. In Goa this movement began over a century ago and that is why there is a large Goan Diaspora. If I may add, the movement appears to have started right after the Napoleanic wars, when the Brits (who were stationed in Goa during that period) discovered that Goans made good butlers, waiters and cooks, were sufficiently 'westernised' and loved to travel (as opposed to the rest of Indians who were afraid of crossing the Kala Pani) - I suppose that was the beginning of the ABC era! Cheers, Gabriel. Do you Yahoo!? Find a local business fast with Yahoo! Local Search http://au.local.yahoo.com
[Goanet] INVEST IN GOA BEFORE IT IS TOO LATE
Hi Clare and Paddy, Happy New Year -- 2006 You lived in Karachi -- so should not be too difficult to fit back into Goa -- even though corruption and bureaucracy has magnified -- As I said to Philip -- I work in Bombay but my home is in Goa -- Alto Porvorim -- I try to get down as often as I can I would suggest that you come down on a holiday see the situation yourself and move around and check those areas where you would like to live -- and then put out feelers for old houses with a large compound -- flats are plentifully available, but I cannot think of living in Goa in a flat -- though a flat is far more convenient for a non-resident to manage Let me know when you decide to come down and I shall help as best I can Cheers Aloysius - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2006 10:45 AM Subject: [Goanet] INVEST IN GOA BEFORE IT IS TOO LATE | On Monday, Jan. 16, Aloysius wrote: | | Hi Goans Everywhere, | | I have just returned from a fourteen day holiday at home in Goa -- and I am | | dismayed to find that more and more Goans (particularly Christians) are | selling out their ancestral homes and lands -- and the buyers are not just | foreigners but other Indians from Punjab Gujarat, -- fairly soon there | will | be few Goans in Goa as compared to non-Goans | | We now have enough Goans in India and abroad in really good financial | position to invest in Goa -- so please come and buy those houses and lands | which our short-sighted Goa Goans are selling out | | Cheers to a future in which Goans will inhabit Goa | | Aloysius | | Hi Aloysius: | | Your subject clarion call got our attention and I would appreciate any leads | or suggestions you can offer in making this dream a reality for us. | | Its been a long time since we've communicated -- remember the Karachi | connection -- and are you now in Mumbai? | | Would it be practical for us in our early 70s to adapt in Goa and cope with | the local palm greasing, which should be minimal? | | Thanks for awakening us, susegad Goans, and your invaluable advice. | | God Bless: | | Pat de Sousa | (AKA Paddy) | |
[Goanet] Invest in Goa before it's too late
Hi Pat, Were youat St Mary's High School, Mount Abu -- I did teach a Patrick Lewis or Louis during my one year spell of teching in 1956 there. Buying a property inGoa -- FINE -- but setting up an Anglo-Indian School in that property is quite a large job -- teachers, administrators, students, exam board, etc?? Are you readytotake onthis massive job? On Goanet there are a number of guys who do undertake real-estate work -- I hope someone follows up yourmessage and my reply and etsaround to finding asuitable property for you. Best of luck Aloysius DSouza (SMHS nick-name DATCH) - Original Message - From: patrick lewis [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: goanet@goanet.org Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2006 3:52 AM Subject: [Goanet] Re: Invest in Goa before it's too late | Dear Aloysius D'Souza, | | My grandfather is from Goa ,We would be intreasted buying a Property |for setting up an Anglo-Indian School please inform us if there is | anything suitable at a suitable location for a school. | | Rgds | Lewis. | Tokyo | Ph +81 3 55206914 | |[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: | | Hi Goans Everywhere, | | I have just returned from a fourteen day holiday at home in Goa -- and I am | dismayed to find that more and more Goans (particularly Christians) are | selling out their ancestral homes and lands -- and the buyers are not just | foreigners but other Indians from Punjab Gujarat, -- fairly soon there will | be few Goans in Goa as compared to non-Goans |
[Goanet] : Invest in Goa before it's too late
--- | New on Goanet's website's Aamp;E section - http://www.goanet.org | | Book in Review: A Kind of Absence - Joao da Veiga Coutinho| | POEM: SUSEGAAD - Cynthia Gomes James| | http://www.goanet.org/modules.php?op=modloadamp;name=Newsamp;file=articleamp;sid=216 | --- Hi Philip, My home is Goa -- I only work in Mumbai Cheers Aloysius (Datch) - Original Message - From: Philip Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: goanet@goanet.org Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2006 10:33 AM Subject: [Goanet] RE: Invest in Goa before it's too late | --- | | New on Goanet's website's Aamp;E section - http://www.goanet.org | | | Book in Review: A Kind of Absence - Joao da Veiga Coutinho | | | POEM: SUSEGAAD - Cynthia Gomes James | | | http://www.goanet.org/modules.php?op=modloadamp;name=Newsamp;file=articleamp;sid=216 | | --- | You say you went home on holiday, but Home is where the heart is is | only a platitude.One's home is where one lives most of the time. | | There you go again with your patronising talk! The dictionary defines home | as a dwelling place. Have you not heard of second homes and holiday | homes? Get with it, man! |
Re: [Goanet] Invest in Goa before it's too late
--- | New on Goanet's website's Aamp;E section - http://www.goanet.org | | Book in Review: A Kind of Absence - Joao da Veiga Coutinho| | POEM: SUSEGAAD - Cynthia Gomes James| | http://www.goanet.org/modules.php?op=modloadamp;name=Newsamp;file=articleamp;sid=216 | --- --- Aloysius D'Souza [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have just returned from a fourteen day holiday at home in Goa -- and I am dismayed to find that more and more Goans (particularly Christians) are selling out their ancestral homes and lands -- and the buyers are not just foreigners but other Indians from Punjab Gujarat, -- fairly soon there will be few Goans in Goa as compared to non-Goans We now have enough Goans in India and abroad in really good financial position to invest in Goa -- so please come and buy those houses and lands which our short-sighted Goa Goans are selling out. Cheers to a future in which Goans will inhabit Goa Mario responds: Aloysius, As an expatriate who has been encouraging Goans in the diaspora to buy property in Goa for quite some time now, I object to some of your insinuations: a) The last time I checked, Goa was a province of India, and any Punjabi or Gujarati or anyone else could buy property there. You seem to have a preference for foreigners over Punjabis and Gujaratis, which I find offensive. b) Why was it OK for Goans to spread out around the world, but dismaying for others to come to Goa? You say you went home on holiday, but Home is where the heart is is only a platitude. One's home is where one lives most of the time. c) The Goans who are selling their properties are no more or less shortsighted that you are, who has left Goa and goes there only when it suits him. Everyone makes decisions based on what they think is best for themselves and their families. My suggestion for Goans to buy property in Goa is simply my belief that they will benefit considerably from the investment. The others obviously think they will, or why would they buy property in Goa.
[Goanet] Invest in Goa before it's too late
--- | New on Goanet's website's Aamp;E section - http://www.goanet.org | | Book in Review: A Kind of Absence - Joao da Veiga Coutinho| | POEM: SUSEGAAD - Cynthia Gomes James| | http://www.goanet.org/modules.php?op=modloadamp;name=Newsamp;file=articleamp;sid=216 | --- Hi Goans Everywhere, I have just returned from a fourteen day holiday at home in Goa -- and I am dismayed to find that more and more Goans (particularly Christians) are selling out their ancestral homes and lands -- and the buyers are not just foreigners but other Indians from Punjab Gujarat, -- fairly soon there will be few Goans in Goa as compared to non-Goans We now have enough Goans in India and abroad in really good financial position to invest in Goa -- so please come and buy those houses and lands which our short-sighted Goa Goans are selling out Cheers to a future inwhich Goans will inhabit Goa Aloysius - Original Message - From: Mario Goveia [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Goanet] Invest in Goa before it's too late | Goa world's fifth must-see place | London, January 11, 2006 | | Jan 10: India among top 10 travel destinations » |
