RE: [Goanet] RE:Goanet Reader: REDO DABOLIM, UNDO MOPA (Valmiki Faleiro)
-- |Goa - 2005 Santosh Trophy Champions | || | Support Soccer Activities at the grassroots in our villages | | Vacationing in Goa this year-end - Carry and distribute Soccer Balls | -- Nasci, I agree with you that Dabolim has a feel and comfort of an old shoe. However, much to our dislike we need to replace it with a new one sooner then later. Moreover, the old shoe is in the custody of men-in-white; I am told that they don't throw away anything from their inventory. I am not particularly worried if Mopa takes ten years or more; a modern airport with state-of-the-art technology is surely worth the wait. Moreover, we will not be subjected to begging for extra landing slots time and again. A modern airport which blends beautifully with Goa's image and help's Goa to prosper is all I am looking forward to. Avelino Nasci Caldeira wrote: Avelino, You should agree with me; Building Mopa will have a more devastating effect on 'TOURISM" then giving the Navy more time, to relocate, and upgrade Dabolim at the same time. Believe me. Mopa will take at least ten yeras to complete, if at all; Within just two years, the Nave can be asked to relocte by the civilian authority and these two years can be simultaneously utilised to re build Dabolim. Thats all for now from me. Read Valmiki Faleiro laatest presentation. Bye. Cheers! Nasci Caldeira Goa. --- * G * O * A * N * E * T *** C * L * A * S * S * I * F * I * E * D * S * --- Spread the Christmas cheer - even when you're not here! Send Christmas Greetings to your loved ones in Goa. 2005 Christmas Package - Flowers, Bubbles and Layers of Love. http://www.goa-world.com/expressions/xmas/ ---
[Goanet] RE:Goanet Reader: REDO DABOLIM,UNDO MOPA (Valmiki Faleiro)
-- |Goa - 2005 Santosh Trophy Champions | || | Support Soccer Activities at the grassroots in our villages | | Vacationing in Goa this year-end - Carry and distribute Soccer Balls | -- Avelino, You should agree with me; Building Mopa will have a more devastating effect on 'TOURISM" then giving the Navy more time, to relocate, and upgrade Dabolim at the same time. Believe me. Mopa will take at least ten yeras to complete, if at all; Within just two years, the Nave can be asked to relocte by the civilian authority and these two years can be simultaneously utilised to re build Dabolim. Thats all for now from me. Read Valmiki Faleiro laatest presentation. Bye. Cheers! Nasci Caldeira Goa. --- * G * O * A * N * E * T *** C * L * A * S * S * I * F * I * E * D * S * --- Spread the Christmas cheer - even when you're not here! Send Christmas Greetings to your loved ones in Goa. 2005 Christmas Package - Flowers, Bubbles and Layers of Love. http://www.goa-world.com/expressions/xmas/ ---
RE: [Goanet] RE:Goanet Reader: REDO DABOLIM, UNDO MOPA (Valmiki Faleiro)
-- |Goa - 2005 Santosh Trophy Champions | || | Support Soccer Activities at the grassroots in our villages | | Vacationing in Goa this year-end - Carry and distribute Soccer Balls | -- Nasci, The Navy is still out there; I don't see anything which suggests they are packing off to seabird or any other location. I agree that the Navy have to move to make way for a modern airport. However, waiting indefinitely will have drastic consequences on the tourism industry. Secondly, Goa will fail to capitalize, as a top tourist destination, on low cost air travel which is just round the corner. And finally, an airport in Sindhudurg will surely be a fatal blow to Goa's tourism industry. Konkan coast with its virgin, uninhabited and clean beaches will compete directly with Goa; it's pretty obvious where the tourists will head to. Are we waiting to cry over spilled milk? Avelino _ Nasci Caldeira wrote: Avelino, The navy will be out of Dabolim, sooner then you think! A concerted effort and a sustained agitation must be made. First to stop procuring land at and around Mopa; and giving back the land already acquired. Secondly to allow Sindhudurg authorities to go ahead with their own airport project, if they need one and if its viable. The Navy nust be reminded that they are to act only under Civilian Govt guidelines and orders. India is not a military dictatorship. The Govts. at the Centre and in Goa. must tell the Navy so, in plain and unmistakable terms. Giving adequate funds to the Navy to relocate , and stern instructions from the Centre should do the trick. The 'Sea Bird' has been under construction and at great cost for so many years now; and that is where the Navy Air Wing belongs. We should not mind the rest of the Navy continuing in Vasco / Chicalim. Its only the Dabolim area that they "HAVE TO VACATE" and NOW! They have a lot of choice when deciding to do that. ANYWHERE BUT DABOLIM for the Navy, should be our refrain. Incidentally, even with the present arrangement of time sharing, all the present day traffic can be accommodated. Its is the future rising demand that calls for the Navy to vacate Dabolim which they are illegally occupying, any way. And the Navy is earning huge profits by doing so. They should plough back all of this profit to the civilian authority. Dabolim can then be constructed to an 'State Of The Art' International (and domestic) Airport, with much less money then is being thought of, for Mopa which does not benefit all of Goa. Above all, this upgrading in terminal and other facilities can be done in as many months as it would take years to do Mopa. I hope the above aanswers your concerns and that of all the Mopa supporters; who are mainly political; Technically, logistically and geographically, Dabolim is the best venue for any airport in Goa. Ramakant Khalap in his recent statements is showing that his support for Mopa is purely political fishing; no reasons technical or logistic given. Some persons are born with 'Thick Brains'; You see. We, all Goans, have to enlighten some or these persons, and win them over. Over to You, Avelino. Let us all of Goa, be one in this fight for our livelihood. Naasci Caldeira. Goa. --- * G * O * A * N * E * T *** C * L * A * S * S * I * F * I * E * D * S * --- Spread the Christmas cheer - even when you're not here! Send Christmas Greetings to your loved ones in Goa. 2005 Christmas Package - Flowers, Bubbles and Layers of Love. http://www.goa-world.com/expressions/xmas/ ---
RE: [Goanet] RE:Goanet Reader: REDO DABOLIM, UNDO MOPA (Valmiki Faleiro)
-- |Goa - 2005 Santosh Trophy Champions | || | Support Soccer Activities at the grassroots in our villages | | Vacationing in Goa this year-end - Carry and distribute Soccer Balls | -- Avelino, The navy will be out of Dabolim, sooner then you think! A concerted effort and a sustained agitation must be made. First to stop procuring land at and around Mopa; and giving back the land already acquired. Secondly to allow Sindhudurg authorities to go ahead with their own airport project, if they need one and if its viable. The Navy nust be reminded that they are to act only under Civilian Govt guidelines and orders. India is not a military dictatorship. The Govts. at the Centre and in Goa. must tell the Navy so, in plain and unmistakable terms. Giving adequate funds to the Navy to relocate , and stern instructions from the Centre should do the trick. The 'Sea Bird' has been under construction and at great cost for so many years now; and that is where the Navy Air Wing belongs. We should not mind the rest of the Navy continuing in Vasco / Chicalim. Its only the Dabolim area that they "HAVE TO VACATE" and NOW! They have a lot of choice when deciding to do that. ANYWHERE BUT DABOLIM for the Navy, should be our refrain. Incidentally, even with the present arrangement of time sharing, all the present day traffic can be accommodated. Its is the future rising demand that calls for the Navy to vacate Dabolim which they are illegally occupying, any way. And the Navy is earning huge profits by doing so. They should plough back all of this profit to the civilian authority. Dabolim can then be constructed to an 'State Of The Art' International (and domestic) Airport, with much less money then is being thought of, for Mopa which does not benefit all of Goa. Above all, this upgrading in terminal and other facilities can be done in as many months as it would take years to do Mopa. I hope the above aanswers your concerns and that of all the Mopa supporters; who are mainly political; Technically, logistically and geographically, Dabolim is the best venue for any airport in Goa. Ramakant Khalap in his recent statements is showing that his support for Mopa is purely political fishing; no reasons technical or logistic given. Some persons are born with 'Thick Brains'; You see. We, all Goans, have to enlighten some or these persons, and win them over. Over to You, Avelino. Let us all of Goa, be one in this fight for our livelihood. Naasci Caldeira. Goa. From: "D'Souza, Avelino" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: "Goa's premiere mailing list, estb. 1994!" Nasci, It's you who are wrong! Please tell us how you are going to get the Navy out of Dabolim! Looks like begging for extra landing slots time and again is something you find exciting and thrilling! Goa needs a modern airport not a rundown, time-sharing, eager-to-close-shop at the break of any hostilities entry point. Avelino How much more "WRONG' can YOU be; when U try to read Thomas and put in your own bias! Mea Culpa! Nasci Caldeira Goa. >From: "D'Souza, Avelino" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: RE: [Goanet] RE:Goanet Reader: REDO DABOLIM,UNDO MOPA (Valmiki >Faleiro) >Date: Mon, 5 Dec 2005 09:02:41 +0300 > > >Philip Thomas wrote: > > Why do I have this strange feeling that when it comes to the Navy the author only has a vague hocus pocus type suggestion wrapped in a lot of jiggery pokery while the state govt is told specifically to "stop land acquisition"! Why cant the Navy be told equally specifically to stop military flight training at Dabolim so that slots can be increased manifold? The we might actually get somewhere on this issue in Goa. --- * G * O * A * N * E * T *** C * L * A * S * S * I * F * I * E * D * S * --- Spread the Christmas cheer - even when you're not here! Send Christmas Greetings to your loved ones in Goa. 2005 Christmas Package - Flowers, Bubbles and Layers of Love. http://www.goa-world.com/expressions/xmas/ ---
RE: [Goanet] RE:Goanet Reader: REDO DABOLIM, UNDO MOPA (Valmiki Faleiro)
-- |Goa - 2005 Santosh Trophy Champions | || | Support Soccer Activities at the grassroots in our villages | | Vacationing in Goa this year-end - Carry and distribute Soccer Balls | -- Nasci, It's you who are wrong! Please tell us how you are going to get the Navy out of Dabolim! Looks like begging for extra landing slots time and again is something you find exciting and thrilling! Goa needs a modern airport not a rundown, time-sharing, eager-to-close-shop at the break of any hostilities entry point. Avelino ___ Nasci Caldeira wrote: Avelino, How much more "WRONG' can YOU be; when U try to read Thomas and put in your own bias! Mea Culpa! Nasci Caldeira Goa. >From: "D'Souza, Avelino" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: RE: [Goanet] RE:Goanet Reader: REDO DABOLIM,UNDO MOPA (Valmiki >Faleiro) >Date: Mon, 5 Dec 2005 09:02:41 +0300 > >--- --- >Well said Philip! > >The Goa government has been putting a lot of money to upgrade the >facilities at Dabolim but to no avail. >It's high time to focus on Mopa for Goa's development and stop further >improvements for Dabolim which ultimately benefits the Navy. > > >Avelino > >___ > >Philip Thomas wrote: > > Why do I have this strange feeling that when it comes to the Navy the author only has a vague hocus pocus type suggestion wrapped in a lot of jiggery pokery while the state govt is told specifically to "stop land acquisition"! Why cant the Navy be told equally specifically to stop military flight training at Dabolim so that slots can be increased manifold? The we might actually get somewhere on this issue in Goa. --- * G * O * A * N * E * T *** C * L * A * S * S * I * F * I * E * D * S * --- Spread the Christmas cheer - even when you're not here! Send Christmas Greetings to your loved ones in Goa. 2005 Christmas Package - Flowers, Bubbles and Layers of Love. http://www.goa-world.com/expressions/xmas/ ---
RE: [Goanet] RE:Goanet Reader: REDO DABOLIM, UNDO MOPA (Valmiki Faleiro)
-- | Add your name to the CLEAN GOA INITIATIVE | || | by visiting this link and following the instructions therein | || | http://shire.symonds.net/pipermail/goanet/2005-October/033926.html | -- Avelino, How much more "WRONG' can YOU be; when U try to read Thomas and put in your own bias! Mea Culpa! Nasci Caldeira Goa. From: "D'Souza, Avelino" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: RE: [Goanet] RE:Goanet Reader: REDO DABOLIM,UNDO MOPA (Valmiki Faleiro) Date: Mon, 5 Dec 2005 09:02:41 +0300 -- Well said Philip! The Goa government has been putting a lot of money to upgrade the facilities at Dabolim but to no avail. It's high time to focus on Mopa for Goa's development and stop further improvements for Dabolim which ultimately benefits the Navy. Avelino ___ Philip Thomas wrote: -- |Goa - 2005 Santosh Trophy Champions | || | Support Soccer Activities at the grassroots in our villages | | Vacationing in Goa this year-end - Carry and distribute Soccer Balls | --
RE: [Goanet] RE:Goanet Reader: REDO DABOLIM, UNDO MOPA (Valmiki Faleiro)
-- | Add your name to the CLEAN GOA INITIATIVE | || | by visiting this link and following the instructions therein | || | http://shire.symonds.net/pipermail/goanet/2005-October/033926.html | -- Well said Philip! The Goa government has been putting a lot of money to upgrade the facilities at Dabolim but to no avail. BJP and the present Congress government have realized that the Navy has been fooling them since the liberation and their hold on Dabolim gets stronger every time the airport is upgraded. It's high time to focus on Mopa for Goa's development and stop further improvements for Dabolim which ultimately benefits the Navy. Avelino ___ Philip Thomas wrote: Why do I have this strange feeling that when it comes to the Navy the author only has a vague hocus pocus type suggestion wrapped in a lot of jiggery pokery while the state govt is told specifically to "stop land acquisition"! Why cant the Navy be told equally specifically to stop military flight training at Dabolim so that slots can be increased manifold? The we might actually get somewhere on this issue in Goa. -- |Goa - 2005 Santosh Trophy Champions | || | Support Soccer Activities at the grassroots in our villages | | Vacationing in Goa this year-end - Carry and distribute Soccer Balls | --
[Goanet] RE:Goanet Reader: REDO DABOLIM, UNDO MOPA (Valmiki Faleiro)
-- | Add your name to the CLEAN GOA INITIATIVE | || | by visiting this link and following the instructions therein | || | http://shire.symonds.net/pipermail/goanet/2005-October/033926.html | -- Why do I have this strange feeling that when it comes to the Navy the author only has a vague hocus pocus type suggestion wrapped in a lot of jiggery pokery while the state govt is told specifically to "stop land acquisition"! Why cant the Navy be told equally specifically to stop military flight training at Dabolim so that slots can be increased manifold? The we might actually get somewhere on this issue in Goa. -- |Goa - 2005 Santosh Trophy Champions | || | Support Soccer Activities at the grassroots in our villages | | Vacationing in Goa this year-end - Carry and distribute Soccer Balls | --
