[Goanet]Aires's Predictions or Predilections?
It's strange that a paper like Herald would encourage a biased as well as lopsided views from Aires Rodrigues in his piece, Poll Day Predictions, distributed over goanet as The Election Scenario. His predictions are no different from those of a common man. Sripad Naik maybe Aires's friend and fellow Ribandarite but his re-election is taken for granted as the grand old doctor, Wilfred de Souza, who Aires calls "grandfather of all political defections in Goa", is the dark horse in this predominantly Hindu constituency. His other prediction that Ramakant Angle will "likely edge Churchill Alemao" is also a general assumption because of past record. But an upset with Churchill winning it as he did against Eduardo Faleira is every much possible. He attacks the BJP as "communal and fundamentalist", a party which, I am told, Aires supported initially. What brought his change of heart is unknown to me. His dislike for the BJP runs contradictory to his support to Naik. True, Willy has played a deadly game for his self-interests. So has Aires in the past when he would go to great length in showing his loyalty to Churchill Alemao. As they say in politics, nothing is steady or permanent, Aires has moved away from Churchill's circle and I presume is now Churchill worst enemy. The political compulsions has brought old enemies like Luizinho Faleiro, Francisco Sardinha and Churchill together. Just few years ago, Faleiro and Sardinha were spewing hatred against Churchill. It shows political vacuum in south Goa that the Congress and the NCP had to settle for Churchill, a defeated candidate in the last parliamentary elections. The UGDP has thrown Auda Viegas, sister of Anacleto Viegas, president of UGDP, into the ring. Some political observers hope that Auda being a municipal councillor and a woman could make it a three-horse race. To me, it would rather be a three-ring circus. At least Rajan Narayan thinks that the UGDP has been bribed by the BJP to field a candidate in order to split the Catholic vote and make it easier for Angle to squeeze through. If the BJP has managed to influence the UGDP as the Goan Observer believes, it is to their credit of their political strategy. After all, elections, like war, depends on using strategic methods to win. Aires also mentions that Pratapsing Rane is under the BJP's "remote control". This again, speaks volumes of BJP's manipulative techniques. Aires blames Willy of having "I-Me-Myself" syndrome. In a piece that seeks to talk about the parliamentary elections, Aires has let himself be part of the story/analysis. He has harped on his role as a student leader before and he has done it again. The piece is not singularly devoted to analysis of the parliamentary elections but touches upon other issues like the police appointments, IFFI, equality of law and his own personal dilemma in who to vote. The salient feature is Aires's dilemma of who to vote -- fellow lawyer Sameer Bandodkar, who was student leader, and a Shiv Sena candidate or Sripad Naik, fellow villager and friend. He feels a bottle of beer who help him make a decision. How ridiculous. One need to be sober to make a good judgment. No wonder Goans seem to vote after consuming liquor and end up voting for "wrong" or "unworthy" candidates. I hope voters don't take the route Aires's has suggested for himself. It's a megroll (kichiddi). The journalism field needs serious political analysts and commentators instead of leaving it to someone like Aires to air his views. He could be consigned to the "letters to the editor" section, where he is a frequent contributor. The article could have been best headlined, Aires's Predictions, Predilections and Predicament. Eugene Correia __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business $15K Web Design Giveaway http://promotions.yahoo.com/design_giveaway/ ## # Send submissions for Goanet to [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # PLEASE remember to stay on-topic (related to Goa), and avoid top-posts # # More details on Goanet at http://joingoanet.shorturl.com/ # # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ##
[Goanet]Aires's Predictions or Predilections?
Eugene Correia, piece:- > He attacks the BJP as "communal and fundamentalist", a > party which, I am told, Aires supported initially. > What brought his change of heart is unknown to me. His > dislike for the BJP runs contradictory to his support > to Naik. I believe Aires has denied this charge and Minguel Braganza, not so long ago had to take back a similar attack, which Aires did parry. An apology was then given. So far nobody has come back, to categorically state tha Aires was a one time BJP fiddle player. > True, Willy has played a deadly game for his > self-interests. So has Aires in the past when he would > go to great length in showing his loyalty to Churchill > Alemao. As they say in politics, nothing is steady or > permanent, Aires has moved away from Churchill's > circle and I presume is now Churchill worst enemy. > The > UGDP has thrown Auda Viegas, sister of Anacleto > Viegas, president of UGDP, into the ring. Some > political observers hope that Auda being a municipal > councillor and a woman could make it a three-horse > race. To me, it would rather be a three-ring circus. > At least Rajan Narayan thinks that the UGDP has been > bribed by the BJP to field a candidate in order to > split the Catholic vote and make it easier for Angle > to squeeze through. If the BJP has managed to > influence the UGDP as the Goan Observer believes, it > is to their credit of their political strategy. After > all, elections, like war, depends on using strategic > methods to win. RESPONSE: If this is the case then I wouldn't conclude that the BJP are savvy, rather that the Catholic faction is naive. > Aires blames Willy of having "I-Me-Myself" syndrome. > In a piece that seeks to talk about the parliamentary > elections, Aires has let himself be part of the > story/analysis. He has harped on his role as a student > leader before and he has done it again. > The piece is not singularly devoted to analysis of the > parliamentary elections but touches upon other issues > like the police appointments, IFFI, equality of law > and his own personal dilemma in who to vote. > The salient feature is Aires's dilemma of who to vote > -- fellow lawyer Sameer Bandodkar, who was student > leader, and a Shiv Sena candidate or Sripad Naik, > fellow villager and friend. He feels a bottle of beer > who help him make a decision. How ridiculous. One need > to be sober to make a good judgment. RESPONSE: A cold bottle of Stella certainly helps, Heineken it is claimed reaches the parts that others can't, not so sure about the Goa brewed beers though. No wonder Goans > seem to vote after consuming liquor and end up voting > for "wrong" or "unworthy" candidates. I hope voters > don't take the route Aires's has suggested for > himself. RESPONSE: I agree and that is why in the past people were bribed by being offered a few 'kals' of the finest bootleg feni. > It's a megroll (kichiddi). The journalism field needs > serious political analysts and commentators instead of > leaving it to someone like Aires to air his views. He > could be consigned to the "letters to the editor" > section, where he is a frequent contributor. > The article could have been best headlined, Aires's > Predictions, Predilections and Predicament. > > Eugene Correia RESPONSE: The Heraldo and Aires might just be trying to shake people into voting against the BJP, They might yet succeed, we shall see. cheers, Gabe. ## # Send submissions for Goanet to [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # PLEASE remember to stay on-topic (related to Goa), and avoid top-posts # # More details on Goanet at http://joingoanet.shorturl.com/ # # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ##
[Goanet]Aires's Predictions or Predilections?
On behalf of Goa Su-Raj Party, Floriano Lobo, President says: "Our stand is against the RSS-BJP. And if at all any one can break it, it is the alliance." There are some like me who can help. But I find the above as somewhat negative. So can Floriano say: 1. What exactly do they oppose in the RSS-BJP? 2. How will the alliance counteract these negatives? I have not been following this thread religiously. But I see in the enclosures to Floriano's message that Adv Aires Rodrigues as predicting that Shripad Naik will win and also calls Wilfred de Souza as the father of political defections in Goa. I thought that Aires was one of the founders of the Goa Su-Raj party and is actively associated with it. Does this not contradict the stated objetives of the party? How will the father of political defections counteract the negatives of the RSS-BJP? I woudl appreciate if Floriano can enlighten all of us. Sachin Phadte. _ News, views and gossip. Hot downloads n previews. http://www.msn.co.in/Cinema/ Get it all at MSN Cinema! ## # Send submissions for Goanet to [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # PLEASE remember to stay on-topic (related to Goa), and avoid top-posts # # More details on Goanet at http://joingoanet.shorturl.com/ # # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ##
Re: [Goanet]Aires's Predictions or Predilections?
Sachin, frankly i don't know what they oppose!!! But they surely know how to divide;-) Cheers Seb Sachin Phadte wrote: 1. What exactly do they oppose in the RSS-BJP? 2. How will the alliance counteract these negatives? ## # Send submissions for Goanet to [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # PLEASE remember to stay on-topic (related to Goa), and avoid top-posts # # More details on Goanet at http://joingoanet.shorturl.com/ # # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ##
Re: [Goanet]Aires's Predictions or Predilections?- by Sachin Phade and Floriano's Reply
Dear Sachin, Namaste! First of all let me go on record to say that Aires Rodrigues has never been associated with Goa Su-Raj Party and certainly not as its founder member. Secondly, I included Eugene's post on Aire's Predictions or Predilections because Eugene had also said in another post that his finding in Goa is that Goa Su-Raj Party is widely looked at in Goa as the Internet Party. Eugene had aslo hinted t hat Aires was leaning towards Sripad Naik (BJP). I included that post to say that the stand taken by Aires and Goa Su-Raj are diametrically opposite. Why not RSS-BJP? At the National Level: 1.We don't trust Advani after his involvement in the demolition of Babri Masjid. 2. We don't trust Vajpayee as he is RSS to the core but is hypocrite enough to show the world otherwise. 3. Both Advani and Vajpayee have miserably failed the Gujarat people, being the country's leaders. 4. BJP ruled NDA is reaping the benefits of the seeds sown by the Congress, specially Manmohan Singh. 5. As such the India Shining campaign to waste close to 800 crores is morally wrong when half of India is starving (literally). 6. After tasting power, the BJP is down playing it Hindutwa card. But it cannot be trusted to forget it. 7. BJP is infact the RSS, the VHP, the Bajrang Dal. & last but not least: 8. BJP as a political party must be de-recognised as it has gone against its signed declaration in Article No. 1 of its Constitution which is instrumental in giving it the registration as a Political Party of India vide the Representation of People Act, 1950. as it swears by the following: Quote The name of the Party shall be "Bharatiya Janata party" It shall bear true faith and allegiance to the Constitution of India as by law established, and to the principles of socialism, secularism and democracy. It shall uphold the sovereignty, unity and integrity of India. Unquote At the National Level the BJP has certainly compromised on secularism vide the Babri Masjid affair. At Goa level, it has trampled on representative Democracy. The Goa Su-Raj Party has written to the Election Commission as well as to the Justices of the Supreme Court drawing their attention to the above. At the Goa Level: 1. Manohar Parrikar is a core RSS viper. 2. All his programmes are populist programmes. 3. He is using frenetic development card to maim Goa with RSS ideology. 4. He is building 23 bridges, not to connect Goa but to be ready for the de-limitation exercise to be held in October next so that he neutralises the voting patern to suit his RSS ideology.(fragmentation). His previous de-limitation chart was rejected by us (the oppositon) 5. Manohar Parrikar has shed the skin he was wearing when he was MLA. The present skin he is wearing stinks of cultural de-stabilisation of Goa a la RSS. 6. Except for the small RSS coterie and an even smaller coterie of sycophants who are capitalizing on the BJP's expansionists agenda, the people of Goa hate him like they have never hated anyone else before in the history of 53 years of Liberated Goa. Even the Portuguese are believed to have been humane. 7. He is absolutely untrustworthy as he cannot stick to his words. A slime-ball at best. 8. I could have been very very happy (personally) running after Manohar Parrikar's shadow. But my upbringing and my beliefs do not permit me to do anything but to see that his brand of governance is stopped and he is sent packing for good. 9. And I shall not stop at what I am doing. I firmly believe (and that is the reason I helped form Goa Su-Raj Party in the first place) that all the Goan politicians, without exception, have been working against Goa and its interests. We do not trust the Congress. We do not trust the NCP, We do not trust the UGDP nor the MGP etc. But above all we hate the RSS-BJP. because it is a communal viper. Our first priority is to get the BJP out of Goa. Then we shall tackle the the others at our own sweet time.They will either reform themselves or perish. It may be too far-fetched at this time for me to say, but the fact is that ... In time to come, with Goans fully behind it, Goa Su-Raj will rule Goa for a long long time. And the religious or the caste card will be far far away from it. Best regards Floriano - Original Message - From: "Sachin Phadte" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, April 12, 2004 10:44 AM Subject: [Goanet]Aires's Predictions or Predilections? > On behalf of Goa Su-Raj Party, Floriano Lobo, President says: "Our stand is > against the RSS-BJP. And if at all any one can break it, it is the > alliance." > > There are some like me who can help. But I find the above as somewhat > negative. So can Floriano say: > > 1. What exactly do they oppose in the RSS-BJP? > 2. How will the alliance counteract these negatives? > > I have not been following this thread relig
Fw: [Goanet]Aires's Predictions or Predilections? & Re: (Goanet) Goa Su-Raj Party By: Eugene Correia
- Original Message - From: "goasuraj" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Goa's Pride" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, April 10, 2004 10:58 AM Subject: Re: [Goanet]Aires's Predictions or Predilections? & Re: (Goanet) Goa Su-Raj Party By: Eugene Correia > Dear Eugene Correia & Goanetters in general. > > After almost 4 years in existence and after contesting 8 seats in 2002 > Assembly elections, a party like Goa Su-Raj Party who does not have huge > political or Industrial names to flog it, will be certainly hard pressed to > make a dent in Goa's political scene. > > The prerequites for a political party to flourish are: (1) Money (2) > Muscle (brawn) and (3) Knowledge (brains). The first two prerequites have > been struck off from the list from the inception as far as Goa Su-Raj Party > is concerned for obvious reasons. And the founders of this Party have > decided that this Political Party does not want to grow in a jiffy and end > up like most of the political players we have in Goa today. It has decided > to work with Knowledge. > > Eugene Correia must know that one has to be born first to grow up to be an > adult. And it is not possible to cut this time. And the adult that will grow > from this new born babe must be strong in body and mind for it to be of > dependable use for itself and to the society at large. > > I concede that not many people in Goa (masses) have heard of Goa Su-Raj > Party. And I concede that Goa Su-Raj Party is a internet Party. Not many > political parties in India or in Goa, for that matter can be termed as > internet parties. Because internet parties require knowledge to work with > knowledgeable people. > > Goa Su-Raj Party was first up and about to say that there should be an > alliance of secular parties in Goa to ground the BJP in the coming General > Parliamentary Electons. And to show our will, we shared the platform (in the > Congress House itself) with the Congress to give a joint Press Conference > against the Corrupt PDAs (Planning & Development Authority). We are on > record of holding personal talks with Mr. Luizinho Faleiro (C), Dr. Wilfred > D'Souza (NCP), Mr. Radarao Gracias (UGDP), Mr. Sirsat (JP), Mr. Raut, Mrs. > Shashikala Kakodkar & Dr. Jhalmi (MGP) on the need to sit on one table and > discuss matters relating to the formation of the Alliance. We had even agree > d to be the catalyst to arrange such a sitting as we have excellent > relations with all and their Office Bearers. But there was no worthy > response. What you have now is what you have, an alliance of Congress and > NCP only. The Goa Su-Raj Party has gladly accepted this alliance and our > message to the people of Goa is "Vote for Hand" in the South and "Vote for > the Clock" in the North. We have had the opportunity of fielding our very > own candidate in the North to help the alliance candidate to make it in a > big way, but that is another story which I shall not go into, at this > moment. Though the big time players have not asked us to actively > participate in the canvassing, we consider it our duty to canvass for it. > Our stand is against the RSS-BJP. And if at all any one can break it, it is > the alliance. For the ensuing Assembly elections, Goa Su-Raj Party will be > its own master. > > We have always held the opinion that Goa needs a solid regional Political > Party, grounded in principles, ethics and moral values who will always have > the blessings of the people of Goa and which will move with the people of > Goa, and not against them. And the prerequisite for such a Party would not > necessitate the requirement of the Muscle power. That money will be no > problem when the time is right. > > Having achieved our primary goal of making Goans in diaspora aware through > the internet that there is a viable alternative to Goan politics in "Goa > Su-Raj Party" we shall hitherto downplay our internet activities and > concentrate more on the Goan scene. > > We thank Eugene Correia whose below mentioned posts has warranted this > response, to Frederick Noronha of goanet, to Jose Colaco of the Goan forum, > to Agnelo Gomes of Goancauses, to Gaspar Almeida of Goa's > Pride/Goaworldtoday, to George Pinto, Gabriel Figueiredo, Ben Antao, > Gabriel Menezes, Mario Rodrigues, Samir Kelekar, Wilson Soares, Eddie D'Sa, > Basilio Magno, Santosh Helekar, Joe Vaz and many, many, many others who I > am not able to name off-hand at this moment, for the moral, ethical and > financial support extended to the Goa Su-Raj Party which is in name and > style the "Goa Good Governance Party&
