[Goanet]Re: Airport Tax

2003-09-21 Thread Bosco D'Mello
Bernado,

Since your family was deprived subsequent to India's liberation of Goa, your
usual anti-Indian rhetoric is palpable.

On one hand you complain that outsiders have taken over Goa at the same time you
complain and discourage Non-Resident Goans from sending in foreign
exchange/money into Goa.

All your noble sentiments expressed in response to Marlon Menezes at 
http://www.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet/2003-September/005173.html are just that
- noble sentiments. There are many who will join you in this crusade once you
get off your behind and start doing something about your sentiments. Sitting at
a keyboard behind a pseudo-name and sending out provoking emails is not going to
return Goa to Goenkars as you envisage it.

And please do not discourage Goenkars from sending money to Goa or investing in
Goa, like you do below. They are investing in their own state in their own
people. If outsiders are taking over jobs in Goa it's because people like you
and I choose to live outside Goa. We're all at fault !!

If I may allude to the example of the creation of the state of Israel back in
1948 - Rich Jews bought into the land and created the country besides eventually
going to war. With the affluence of overseas Goans - land and other businesses
can still remain in Goan hands and that's what we have to ensure.

DO NOT ADVISE GOENKARS NOT TO INVEST IN GOA !!

Best wishes - Bosco


On Fri, 19 Sep 2003 03:31:31 +0100 (BST), Bernado Colaco [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

Santana,

Congratulations on your post. It is time to clear the way for Goans to control
Goa. Some netters have come up with great ideas about entreprenurship which I
think is very good, but can Goans get into business when the whole system is
corroded? There are vultures waiting in the wings to get at Non Resident Goans
once they bring in their dosh.

Colaco
 
 The Goan NRIs are anxiously waiting to take over the
 Dabolim International 
 Airport in their custody if the Goa government
 failed to renovate / develope 
 the airport. Wait and see the future……
 
 Santana Piedade Afonso

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Re: [Goanet]Re: Airport Tax and Dabolim

2003-09-19 Thread Bernado Colaco
We want the indian navy out of our airport. Goa has
lost enough because of the restrictions placed on the
airport. The housing complex they live in should be
given to our Goan poor. We want what is ours!



 In Goa, the Navy only operates Air
 Traffic Control in
 respect of civil flights, and is not responsible for
 the airport
 terminal and facilities. The Govt. of Goa also has
 no
 responsibility.  So levying any tax has no meaning
 because it will
 not improve Dabolim.
 regards,  Gilbert Menezes.
 
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[Goanet]Re: Airport Tax World-class airports

2003-09-19 Thread Bosco D'Mello
http://www.deccan.com/brunch/default.shtml#Step%20towards%20world-class%20airports 

Step towards world-class airports

The NDA government has set the ball rolling for the third time for the
modernisation of Delhi and Mumbai airports. The Union Cabinet at a meeting
chaired by Prime Minister Atal Behari Vajpayee on September 11 gave a clearance
to the project to build world-class airports at Mumbai and Delhi with a view to
making these two airports major international aviation hubs

An empowered committee of ministers, comprising Jaswant Singh, Rajiv Pratap
Rudy, Arun Shourie and Arun Jaitley, was also appointed to work out the
nitty-gritty of the project.

As per the latest Cabinet decision, the two new airports will be built by joint
venture companies in which the private/foreign players will be allowed to pick
up upto 74 per cent equity leaving the remaining 26 per cent for the Airports
Authority of India, which has been the sole owner and operator of airports in
the country so far.

The new airports will be developed by two separate consortia of designers,
builders and operators of existing world class airports.

The Union Cabinet had on two earlier occasions tried to take up the
modernisation of the Delhi and Mumbai airports. First, in 1999, the Cabinet
cleared corporatisation of the two airports. It did not work out. Then in the
year 2000, the Cabinet decided to lease out the two airports to private parties.

This move too failed to take off in spite of large sums of money spent by the
government in organising road-shows abroad to attract private/foreign players to
take the Delhi and Mumbai airports in lease from the government.

The leasing move failed as the government had embarked in the move without
properly going through the legal provisions in the Airport Authority of India
Act. After the ministry of civil aviation had organised the road-shows and
created the hype over the leasing project, it was brought to its notice that the
law does not allow it to lease out the airports. And is the government wanted to
lease out the airports, it will have to first amend the AAI Act.

The AAI Act has now been amended, and unlike in the past the government seems to
be treading more cautiously. The latest move of the government has generated
more hope in the official circles than the last two.

But the timeframe given by the Union Minister of State for Civil Aviation Rajiv
Pratap Rudy for the completion of the project is unlikely to be met. According
to Rudy, the new airports at Delhi and Mumbai will be ready in the next two
years.

There are many important issues that will have to be resolved before even the
process of selecting the 74 per cent partner to build the new airports could be
started.

One of the key issues is related to security of airports once they pass into the
private hands. The Cabinet committee on security had recently taken a decision
not to allow private and foreign airlines to handle their ground operations at
Indian airports. The CCS said that only the government-owned Air-India, Indian
Airlines and the Airport Authority of India will handle the ground operations of
all the airlines using the Indian airports. These ground operations include
passenger check-ins, baggage check-ins, cargo loading and unloading, step-ladder
handling, ramp handling, aircraft cleaning, etc.

The CCS decision now runs counter to the Cabinet decision to hand over the
entire airport to private or foreign players. The government plans to keep only
the air traffic control and security with the Airport Authority of India, all
the other operations will be handed over to the private partner.

Obviously, if the private and foreign players can not be trusted with ground
handling operations, they should not be handed over the entire airport. This
will probably be the first issue that the empowered committee of ministers
appointed by the Cabinet will have to resolve.

The CCS decision not to allow private or foreign airlines to handle ground
operations has created another problem.

As per indications from the ministry of civil aviation the new owners will get
the 5000 acres of land at Delhi airport and 1300 acres land at Mumbai to build
the new terminal buildings. The existing international terminals in the two
cities will be turned into domestic terminals. The domestic and international
terminals will be connected with mono-rails.

The new owners will also be allowed to use the land for any other revenue
generating activities, such as building golf course, shopping malls, hotels,
motels, etc.

Officials in the ministry of civil aviation are keeping their fingers crossed to
see what revenue-sharing model the empowered committee of ministers frames after
transferring such huge profit-making airports and pieces of prime land to the
private/foreign players.

Already, the government is has been in serious financial wrangling for the last
couple of years with the private players who have been awarded the work of
developing the 

Re: [Goanet]Re: Airport Tax

2003-09-19 Thread Gabe Menezes

- Original Message - 
From: Santana Afonso [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2003 8:29 PM
Subject: Re: [Goanet]Re: Airport Tax



 Yes we heard that the Dabolim International Airport is voted India's third
 best in an Indian national passenger survey. And what is the use if our
 Dabolim International Airport is still backward? Yeah, we heard that
another
 International Airport will be constructed soon at MOPA. Is it for Goan or
 the Maharastra and Karnataka resident? Instead of having new International
 Airport at MOPA why can't the Goa government renovate / modify the
existing
 Dabolim International Airport?


RESPONSE:

Mopa Airport is such a huge project, including in monetary terms. It is my
belief that who ever is in charge when it is being built will retire with a
big pension.

Other then that I cannot see any rationale for building Mopa. All this talk
of ever
increasing charter flights, might just be an excuse, to justify Mopa. In any
case it now seems to be  fait accompli , our beloved C.M Manhor has
spoken and it has been written, whether you like it or not you will be
getting a new Airport.

Cheers,

Gabe Menezes.



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Re: [Goanet]Re: Airport Tax

2003-09-18 Thread Tim de Mello
From: Santana Afonso [EMAIL PROTECTED]
said:

The Goan NRIs are anxiously waiting to take over the Dabolim International 
Airport in their custody if the Goa government failed to renovate / develope 
the airport. Wait and see the future…… 

???
Am I the first to hear of this NRI plan?
Tim de Mello
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Re: [Goanet]Re: Airport Tax

2003-09-18 Thread Santana Afonso
Is anyone bothered to note down the hue and cry on the net about the 
implementation of Rs. 20/ to Rs. 50/- as airport tax at Dabolim 
International Airport?  I’m pretty sure that none of the above will never 
ever be implemented by DGA or the Goa government of Manohar Parrikar and the 
BJP, until the Indian Navy moves out from the Dabolim International Airport.

For many years passed, Dabolim Airport is better knows as Dabolim 
International Airport of Goa to the whole world. But why DIA is still kept 
backward?  What are the reasons not to have the modern infrastructure and 
developments? Why it takes so long to Indian Navy to moves out of the 
Dabolim International Airport since Indian Navy made a new biggest base at 
one of the Goa’s Islands – Angandeva.

Yes we heard that the Dabolim International Airport is voted India's third 
best in an Indian national passenger survey. And what is the use if our 
Dabolim International Airport is still backward? Yeah, we heard that another 
International Airport will be constructed soon at MOPA. Is it for Goan or 
the Maharastra and Karnataka resident? Instead of having new International 
Airport at MOPA why can’t the Goa government renovate / modify the existing 
Dabolim International Airport?

Through some source we know that Indian Navy is not allowing the incoming 
flights to land as per the schedule and that’s why the all incoming flights 
are only schedule to land during the noon time only. The only flight is 
allowed to land during the early morning is the Kuwait bound flight. My 
friends always ask me that ‘Is Indian Navy was stationed before the 
construction of Dabolim Airport or the Dabolim Airport before the Indian 
Navy. And if the Dabolim Airport was before then Indian Navy has the right 
to leave from the Dabolim Airport since they have the biggest base near 
Karwar.

The Goan NRIs are anxiously waiting to take over the Dabolim International 
Airport in their custody if the Goa government failed to renovate / develope 
the airport. Wait and see the future……

Santana Piedade Afonso

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Re: [Goanet]Re: Airport Tax

2003-09-17 Thread Eddie Fernandes
Before anyone else get carried away...

The Dabolim airport  tax  is:

Rs 500 for International flights
Rs 150 for flights to neighbouring countries
Nil for internal flights.

Foreigners must also buy visas to enter India. The visa application fees
are:
£30 (Rs 2000)  minimum valid for up to 6 months.
£90 (Rs 6000) multi trip valid for up to 5 years.

It is claimed that 600 charter flights are expected this season. Who by?  I
will be most surprised if there are 400.

Dabolim International airport was recently voted India's third best in an
Indian national passenger survey.
It was also voted the world's worst International airport in a UK national
passenger survey two years ago.

Cheers,

Eddie
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On Wed, 17 Sep 2003 19:21:51 +1000, noel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

The tax that would be introduced (and you are not the fist to think of it)
would
only increase in time and the result..Dabolim airport would
still be
s sore sight for everyone. I have to disagree with you, it is not an
effective
method, have you arrived/departed or transited Mumbai??


  - Original Message - 
  From: R.PACHECO
  Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2003 3:33 PM

So--600 charter flights are expected!
Why don't the Dabolim Airport
Authorities introduce an Airport tax of say 20 rupees per
head.This should be a one time fee only.That revenue could generate
income to subsidies urgently required renovations.That Dabolim
Airport
is a definitely sore sight for tourist and
visitors arriving/departing. This airport tax is not new. It is a
very effective method done all over the world.
Cheers!
Roy




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[Goanet]Re: Airport Tax

2003-09-17 Thread Bosco - Goanet Volunteer
On Wed, 17 Sep 2003 19:21:51 +1000, noel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


The tax that would be introduced (and you are not the fist to think of it) would
only increase in time and the result..Dabolim airport would still be
s sore sight for everyone. I have to disagree with you, it is not an effective
method, have you arrived/departed or transited Mumbai??


  - Original Message - 
  From: R.PACHECO 
  Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2003 3:33 PM
  
So--600 charter flights are expected!
 Why don't the Dabolim Airport 
Authorities  introduce an Airport tax of say 20 rupees per 
head.This should be a one time fee only.That revenue could generate 
income to subsidies urgently required renovations.That Dabolim Airport 
is a definitely sore sight for tourist and 
visitors arriving/departing. This airport tax is not new. It is a 
very effective method done all over the world.
Cheers!
Roy

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