Re: [Goanet]Dinesh D'Souza; East Indian....

2005-08-05 Thread carlos6143

Gabe Menezes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


This forum is what it is all about! The fact that he has
made millions, is your criteria of a person's 'worth' speaks volumes
about yourself. Our Goan Politicians too have made millions; we must
not forget to applaud them too!


RESPONSE: I do not think this forum is for people (crab mentality) to 
destroy another Goan or Indian. To destroy Dinesh and to compare him to 
a Goan politician is absolutely nonsense, and speaks volumes of 
yourself. Dinesh has not made his money thru corruption. Though I may 
not agree with all of Dinesh viewpoints, I still respect him as a 
person. Remember, a weak debater makes personal attacks against his 
opponent rather than debate the issues.

Regards,
Carlos



Re: [Goanet]Dinesh D'Souza; East Indian....

2005-08-05 Thread Mario Goveia
--- Gabe Menezes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> This forum is what it is all about! The
> fact that he has made millions, is your criteria of 
> a person's 'worth' speaks volumes about yourself. 
> Our Goan Politicians too have made millions; we must
> not forget to applaud them too!
> 
Mario responds:
You don't get to Dinesh D'Souza's level in America by
looking for affirmative action, or doing what Goan
politicians are alleged to do to make their millions. 

>
I have no idea whether Dinesh D'Souza has made
millions, but he probably has.  This is hardly unusual
for immigrants in this country, especially Indians,
who rank No. 1 by family income in America among all
ethnic groups.  Even one of our prominent lefty
Goanetters from America, who shall remain nameless,
drives a Mercedes Benz, and is probably a millionaire.
>
However, I am amazed by the persistent efforts by some
non-American Goans, who are obviously unfamiliar with
American institutions, to denigrate a fellow Goan and
cast aspersions on his achievements, which have earned
him a place at the highest levels of American
intelligentsia.  In the meantime these same people
have not mentioned even one specific issue where they
disagree with Dinesh, which reasonable people can
debate or agree to disagree.
>
In America, superlative achievements are almost always
rewarded by financial success.  Dinesh D'Souza works
at one of the most prestigious think tanks in the US,
the Hoover Institute, which is part of one of the top
universities in the world, Stanford.  He has written
many highly acclaimed and successful books and
articles and is in demand as a speaker paid well over
$10,000 per speech.
>
Those who want to achieve what Dinesh has achieved,
don't do what Goan politicians are alleged to do,
don't go to some socialist Utopia where everyone is
encouraged to be satisfied with the least common
denominator.  Come to America and try to do what
Dinesh has actually done.  Even if you don't come
close to his achievements, I guaranty you will do
pretty well by any standards.






Re: [Goanet]Dinesh D'Souza; East Indian....

2005-08-05 Thread Gabe Menezes
On 04/08/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Mario,
> 
> You are absolutely correct. To say that Dinesh was hired because he is
> East Indian is nonsense and not worth arguing. He was hired because of
> his merits. And, Yes there will always be someone on this net to bring
> him down. No matter what they say, he has already established himself
> and made millions.
> Regards,
> Carlos


RESPONSE: This forum is what it is all about! The fact that he has
made millions, is your criteria of a person's 'worth' speaks volumes
about yourself. Our Goan Politicians too have made millions; we must
not forget to applaud them too!

Cheers,

Gabe Menezes.
London, England



Re: [Goanet]Dinesh D'Souza; East Indian....

2005-08-04 Thread carlos6143

Mario,

You are absolutely correct. To say that Dinesh was hired because he is 
East Indian is nonsense and not worth arguing. He was hired because of 
his merits. And, Yes there will always be someone on this net to bring 
him down. No matter what they say, he has already established himself 
and made millions.

Regards,
Carlos

-Original Message-
From: Mario Goveia <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: goanet@goanet.org
Sent: Thu, 4 Aug 2005 08:28:59 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: Re: [Goanet]Dinesh D'Souza; East Indian

--- Gabe Menezes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

http://logosonline.home.igc.org/kelly.htm
If Dinesh D'Souza were not East Indian, he would
simply have no role to play for the Right: there
would be no White House credentials, no
appointments as "scholar,".


Mario responds:


For anyone to suggest that he was hired by the Reagan
White House because he was an Indian displays a very
high level of ignorance. 




Re: [Goanet]Dinesh D'Souza; East Indian....

2005-08-04 Thread Mario Goveia
--- Gabe Menezes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> http://logosonline.home.igc.org/kelly.htm 
> If Dinesh D'Souza were not East Indian, he would
> simply have no role to play for the Right: there
> would be no White House credentials, no 
> appointments as "scholar,".
> 
Mario responds:
The term "east Indian" is commonly used in America to
distinguish Indian Indians from American Indians, West
Indians, etc.  It has nothing to do with the "east
Indian" community in and around Mumbai.
>
To show how biased the statement posted above is,
Dinesh D'Souza was hired by the Reagan White House in
1983 after a distinguished college career at Dartmouth
University, which is one of the top Ivy League
universities in the US.  He became prominent at the
university as the editor of the Dartmouth Review, a
student-run university publication.  His academic
achievements at Dartmouth included acceptance in a
group called Phi Beta Kappa, where academic excellence
is the only qualification.
>
For anyone to suggest that he was hired by the Reagan
White House because he was an Indian displays a very
high level of ignorance of the Reagan White House, or
is a blatant attempt to tear down his obvious
achievements.  Reagan was known for not using race in
selecting his advisors, and these same political
opponents strongly criticized him for that.  Dinesh's
subsequent achievements also point up the false claims
by his political opponents, namely his selection by
the esteemed American Enterprise Institute then the
equally esteemed Hoover Institute at Stanford
University speak for themselves, but only to those who
are familiar with these institutions.  
>
People who don't know the difference between "east
Indian" as used in the US and the "east Indian"
community hardly qualify as being familiar with elite
US institutions.