[Goanet] INDECENT EXPENDITURE

2006-07-13 Thread John Eric Gomes

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 In just one month,June06, it is reported that the cabinet Ministers have
spent more than 66 lakhs in Fuel(14.6),Foreign Tours(12.5), Domestic
Tours(26.0),Refreshments(2.3),Telephones(6.4),and also Mobiles(4.2).
The Chief Minister boldly statesOur performance on the financial front is
excellent

The IFFI expenditure  reported  via Wizcraft takes the cake.Three Press
conferences held in Kala  Black Box  Rs2,25,000/-. Miscellaneous expenses
Rs96,98,761/-, and Garbage managementRs 9,80,605/-.These details were
brought up in the State Assembly,with government failing to justify! Five
new expensive cars
were purchased, with some Ministers asking for foreign cars. Are they
working for the nation and Aam  Admi or some other purpose?  It is shocking
that this  profligacy goes unpunished and  unchecked as are the CAG reports,
all of which demands an ATR ,widely  published in public interest.


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Re: [Goanet] Goanet News Bytes * July 12, 2006 * Security tightened in Goa after Mumbai blasts... Ulhas Kamat is Goa's director for NRI Affairs...

2006-07-13 Thread Frederick \FN\ Noronha

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Hi Gabe, I guess if it's a matter that arises primarily because of
your non-resident status (and being out of Goa), then you should take
it up not just with Ulhas Kamat but with Eduardo Faleiro (the NRI
Commissioner).

How effective that will be, I cannot say, knowing the vagaries of
government -- which works sometimes and sometimes (more often?)
doesn't. Someone I know is still trying to get to the bottom of why he
was being deprived a visa to visit Goa for many years, without any
specific reason being given!

On the other hand, if this is a case of a general nature, then
obviously it could be unfair to burden an infrastructure set up with a
specialist agenda to take it on.

It must be said however that the tenancy laws of the 1960s and 1970s
(particularly the mundkar, or homestead-tenancy laws) have been
overwhelmingly anti-expat in impact. Many reading this would know how
it worked: you're based abroad, give that friendly neighbour your home
(or part of it) to stay in and look after, and suddenly the laws
change and s/he becomes owner with many actual-owners left homeless.

It might be nice if we on Goanet could spend some time to put this
issue on the agenda, rather than just indulging in infighting and
name-calling and spending so much of our energies to make the point of
how great Portuguese colonialism was in its civilising mission. FN

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Re: [Goanet] Tours banned from Xavier Basilica, guides upset - I SUPPORT THE BAN

2006-07-13 Thread Herman D'Souza

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MY ONLY RESPONSE TO THIS IS 

THE CHURCH IS A HOUSE OF GOD

AND IT SHOULD STAY THAT WAY

A PLACE FOR PRAYER, DEVOTION AND RESPECT

Please dont compare a theatre and church as the same

regards

Herman


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 Mr D'Souza,
 I am not trying to build a controversy here but as
 you
 say things must have been happening some time ago,
 its
 all the more reason why corrective measures should
 have been taken. You learn through experience and
 bring in some changes so that everyone is satisfied
 and that change is not by shunning people
 completely.
 Old Goa is a Historic place and people from all over
 the world come down to see and along with them there
 are the Devotees as well. Just because a few people
 mis-behave you don't close down the house.
 
 Have you been to the movies in a theatre? There are
 always those few who cause trouble but because of
 those few, you dont shut down the movie theatre? You
 can approach them, reprimand them or have a
 Police/Security Guard to do the needfull.  All I am
 saying is take the necessary steps to correct the
 situation and I am sure the Guides will follow the
 guidelines.
 
 Thank you for your reply anyway, and I dont intend
 persuing on this matter.
 
 Peace on earth and to the fellow men.
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Re: [Goanet] world Goa Day 20 August 2006

2006-07-13 Thread r.barreto

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Subject: [Goanet] world Goa Day 20 August 2006



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20 August is a day dedicated and embraced byGoan people and friends in Goa 
and  around the world. You are invited to participate, reflect and celebrate 
our Goan Heritage.Perhaps organise a picnic/debate goto church for ideas of 
what our people are doing please visit www.goaday.com. This years theme 
is excellence through unity As information coordinator please let me know of 
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[Goanet] Explaination to Zinedine's insult?

2006-07-13 Thread afra dias

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 Hi Goanetters, 
newton filomeno [EMAIL PROTECTED],wrote:
Hence it was best for Zinedin to inform the referee as a captain that too of 
the harm bestowed on him, prior to head butting his opponent.
He doesn't even deserve to be give the honour of The best Footballer of the 
tournament. 
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1) You as a referee, you go on the field with a different attitude.
2) Verbal abuse is the same if not worse than physical abuse.
In my opinion Zidane should be given the golden boot AND a Golden Ball for NOT 
killing him ON THE SPOT. 
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[Goanet] Test Your Spoken Konkani Language - part I

2006-07-13 Thread JoeGoaUk

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Test for spoken Konkani (local) Language:

It is nothing but saying the same thing in different words by keeping the 
meaning
more or less the same.
Please try to add one or more to each of the following.

Let’s Start with 2 examples:

e.g. 1 I love You
Hanv tuzo mog kortam
Hanv tujea mogan podlam
Hanv tujer motam (I am dying on you)
(You may add thus..)
 Hanv tujea mogan lasotam


e.g. 2 He is fast asleep
To nidon podla
To nidon sarko goreta
To nidon sompneta
(you may add..)
To nidon bhorneta,
To  San'na  ukotta etc
...

Red hot (angry)
To ragan sarko furr zata
To ragan sarko uchamboll zata
To ragan sarko tambllo zata


A girl with bad reputation
Tem ek kolvont
Tem ek pamprel
Tem ek Kolug
Tem ek fulgollem


Very dark fellow..
To kallo kitt
To kallo ingallo 
To kallo Kanvllo
.

Come into my arms..
Mojea ghopant ieo
Mojea Vengent ieo
Mojea hankiant ieo


Too much drunk..
To pivon tight
To pivon lans
To pivon muzg

Too young...
To sarcko bhurgo
To sarrko bacha
To sarko piquen
To sarko kirians



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Re: [Goanet] We must go to war!

2006-07-13 Thread Gabe Menezes

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On 13/07/06, Valmiki Faleiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


..
 POST SCRIPT: Why didn't Mumbai police realise that jamming the telephone
 network, when rail and road networks already were, would add more to people's
 misery than help nab the killers or stymie riots-fuelling rumour? Instant
 communication channels were available a short drive away. The perpetrators had
 all the time to drive out. Poor Mumbaikars got jammed. (ENDS)

Comment: I wouldn't be too certain that the Police or Security Forces
caused the block out of phones!

This happened here too last year when we had the London bombings..this
was due to overload of the networks; people desperately trying to call
their loved ones to ascertain that they were safe.


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[Goanet] 25 foreigners blacklisted,3 deported in June: Goa DGP

2006-07-13 Thread Goacan

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Twenty-five foreign nationals have been blacklisted by Ministry 
of Home Affairs, while three foreign nationals residing at Anjuna  
Yemeni, German and British  were deported in the month of June 
for overstaying, said Director General of Police (DGP) Neeraj Kumar 
on Tuesday.

Kumar disclosed that the 25 of those blacklisted mostly comprise 
Russians and Israelis involved in the drug trade. One of them is Israeli 
national Agai, who, the DGP alleged was involved in drug peddling, 
had recently approached the Indian Embassy in Israel for a visa 
which was turned down.

We are not only in the process of deporting, but also blacklisting 
those not wanted in the State, he observed. Blacklisting will help us 
in restricting many of the drug traffickers entering the State and the 
country, he added.

Kumar informed that a sniffer dog, a Labrador, meant for the 
Anti-Narcotic Cell has been trained at the BSF Academy in 
Tekanpur. The same will be used by the ANC at the airport when
the season begins. We've got sanction for another four pups which 
will be trained for different sections of the police, he said.

The DGP said the airport will have daily presence of ANC personnel 
during the season time. We have information that Goa has become 
one of the transit points for soft drugs like cannabis and hashish. 
These mostly find way to European countries through charter flights 
taking off from the State, he stated.
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[Goanet] [Fwd: for the love of Konkani]

2006-07-13 Thread Herman Carneiro

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 Original Message 
Subject: for the love of Konkani
From:Pravin Sabnis [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date:Wed, July 12, 2006 11:56 pm

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The controversy over allowing the Konkani language to exist in the Romi
and Kannada scripts is turning ugly, due to unnecessary prejudices.
Prejudice No 1: Roman script is alien
Surely this is a redundant attitude. Most Goans write in Romi-Konkani on
e-mails and SMSs. One may argue that the Devnagri script can be used too,
but for that it is necessary to know how to type it. In fact, how can one
insist that English should be a subject from Std I (the demand was made by
the Samta Andolan at Pedne Parishad) and then persist with the claim that
the Roman script is alien to young minds.
It is pertinent to note that publications and periodicals in the Romi and
the Kannada script are written and read by many. The numbers prove that
public patronage exists for all the scripts. The Devnagri script too, will
flourish, but it does not have to be at the cost of the Romi-script or the
Kannada script.
Prejudice No 2: Single Script strengthens Language
The blockage of the Urdu script has left Hindi poorer. Even today, the
best of Hindi writing comes from people who know both the scripts –
Devnagri as well as Urdu. When we interact with Konkanis from Karnataka or
Kerala, our common language matters, not the accent, not the vocabulary
and definitely not the script.
Konkani has survived all odds over the years along the entire Konkan belt,
due to the plurality of dialect, accent and script. Last year, a Konkani
Yakshagaan performed in the Kala Academy, with the background banner
written in the Kannada script. Discrimination against script will only
create divisions and diversions in the Konkani movement.
Prejudice No 3: Western culture will dominate
This prejudice falls flat in regards to the Kannada script. Regarding the
others, it is observed that the aping of western culture is not restricted
to any one script, community or language. And most importantly culture
is not really eastern or western, northern or southern... it is reflected
in the values of democracy, equality, freedom, empathy and humanism.
Yes our ethnic identity is reinforced with the consolidation of our
language, but to insist that the Devnagri script should be thrust upon
people will have its dangerous implications.
Forceful impositions will lead to resistance and even revolt. To “promote”
the Devnagri script, one does not have to “demote” the Romi or Kannada
scripts.
Prejudice No 4: All opposition is anti-Konkani
In supporters of the Romi-script are even described as anti-national. Our
language is one of colourful plurality and it is unfair to view it through
a blinkered “black-or-white” perspective. A few hotheaded, nasty arguments
needed not be the basis to decide that supporters of any one script are
opposing the other. Such chauvinism is best left to the Konkani speaking
Goan who insists that Konkani is a dialect.
Nationalism and national pride are not slaves to any single language or
script. They go beyond, to first recognizing and then accepting, both, our
strengths as well as our weaknesses. Attacking the plural diversity will
wreck all possible unity!
Prejudice No 5: It reinforces arguments of Konkani bashers
Two Mandovi bridges have fallen down, been rebuilt and an entire landscape
has changed, since the official and public recognition of Konkani as a
language of the Konkani people. The use of written Konkani has increased
in leaps and bounds. Literature, theatre, Documentation and development is
taking place in all the major scripts.
This controversy is less to do with language and more to do with economics
that come with the official recognition of the script. The proponents of
Kannada and Romi scripts want their dutiful share of the Sahitya Academy
and other awards and rewards. Some in the Devnagri camp do not want to let
go of the monopoly.
May all Konkani people disregard the divisive arguments and allow Konkani
to flourish in all scripts by patronizing the distinct and unique
plurality of our language. May the sloganeering recede and may the pen and
the ghumat be brought to the fore!
Pravin Sabnis

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Re: [Goanet] On what's good for Goa and Goans - Joe Vaz

2006-07-13 Thread Floriano Lobo

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Dear Joe,

This comes a little late as a lot of water has run under the bridge between
Fred and you.
Nevertheless, I must thank you for your most liberal views and a good
understanding (analytical).
I am presently not in a position to interact more often on the net as my
sancharnet has packed off. I rely on reliance and gmail.

Fred means well. However I would be more happy for him if he took a little
trouble to identify  motives rather than go on mere statistics. Manohar
Parrikar did rely solely on stats and see what the CAG has to say on his
rule. A pity to see good men go down the drain voluntarily.
Wonder if the goodness was there at all in the first place. And that is what
I hope intelligent persons like Fred  will look for. If that is identified,
everything becomes very simple.

best rgds
floriano

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From: Joe Vaz [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Monday, July 10, 2006 12:58 PM
Subject: Re: [Goanet] On what's good for Goa and Goans



 Floriano Lobo [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Now, take for instance our brush with (some)  the Press  in Goa.
Politics
 in Goa has, over too long, pampered the press to such an extent that it
 (press) has forgotten its responsibilities as the FOURTH ESTATE,  like
the
 other  three,   the Executive, the Legislature and the Judiciary. GSRP
has
 taken on itself to remind the press that it too has to conduct itself as
 the
 FOURTH ESTATE.
 

 Not quite sure whether the politics in Goa has pampered the press -but
 surely, the politicians and powerhouses (industrialists) have successfully
 controlled and subdued the press/journalists in Goa.  Thus, on many
fronts,
 the press is intimidated into pussyfooting on insidious issues plaguing
the
 public.

 Professional Journalism is a remarkable profession, and honest, ethical
and
 unbiased journalism can blissfully contribute to society.  The press can
be
 a driving force and pose a formidable challenge to politicians, while
 astutely shaping politics in a way to help eradicate some of the malaises
 facing the public.

 The press in Goa, as we know, is highly partisan and biased, which often
 degenerates into shameless lying and blatant propaganda to pander to their
 masters desires; -often depoliticizing the public rather than engaging
them.
 There are scarcely a few newspapers and/or journalists that are not in bed
 with those who control politics and powerhouses. This has effectively
forced
 the press to accept self-regulation (and selective reporting,) to protect
 their own interests and ward off any threat from politicians and those in
 positions of power.

 Sadly, but invariably, press reporting has often turned into dictation by
 politicians who have mastered the art to exploit and exert a great deal of
 control over the press on what gets covered and what does not.
Journalists
 today spend much more time evaluating whether the politicians can
 successfully spin the public (i.e. through lies and deceit) than they do
 holding politicians accountable and responsible for their actions.

 More stories get reported and public concerns voiced via e-media by people
 like Godfrey Gonsalves and Aires Rodrigues, than some of our Goan
 journalists who either shy out or cowed down from actively fulfilling
their
 role of factual and responsible reporting.  A truly independent journalism
 requires the journalist to stand outside of partisan institution,
 intimidation and biases, and assume the perspective of those outside the
 corridor of power.

 As a legendary expression elucidates: Journalism should afflict the
 comfortable and comfort the afflicted.  This is certainly not happening
in
 our Goa State.  Verily, responsible journalism is not for the
fainthearted!

 Joe Vaz
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Re: [Goanet] *** Goa's education conundrum: English or mothertongue, choice isn'

2006-07-13 Thread Joe Vaz

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Frederick FN Noronha [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


NRIs could get more seats at a reasonable
price, and thus help to also build the educational networks here by paying 
somewhat

higher fees (which is probably only equitable,
given their earning-capacity and the fact
that they have not been taxpayers here). FN


It is an insensible and illogical concept and proposal that NRIs should be 
squeezed to pay higher fees for educating their children in Goa/India, 
because of their earning capacity. Considering that the Gulf Goans (NRIs) 
have considerably contributed to boost the economy of Goa, — through 
slogging in the Gulf countries, yet sending almost *all* their savings home 
to Goa.  What have these Goans got in return?


How much squeeze does one really propose on the Gulf Goan?  Isn’t it a shame 
that after all that Gulf Goans’ contributed to the State, we propose to 
further bleed the Gulf Goans?  How does one justify that these Gulf Goans 
keep paying higher fees, after they return and remain unemployed in Goa?


Is Fred inferring that Gulf Goans pay *No Taxes* at all in Goa/India?

Note: Constancio Manuel Gomes, appears to be a NRI, whose son studies in 
the Indian Embassy school in the Arabia Gulf.


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Re: [Goanet] [Fwd: Goan language newspaper]

2006-07-13 Thread Frederick \FN\ Noronha

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Sunaparant doesn't have a website. You can email them at
[EMAIL PROTECTED] and find out if the publication is available
in Mumbai/Bombay. Or phone them at 0091.832.2425277/88  --FN

On 13/07/06, Herman Carneiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 From:arvind kulkarni [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date:Wed, July 12, 2006 11:50 pm
 To:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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 Dear Sir,

 I would like to know the web site for paper called
 'SUNAPARANT'.Also pl inform me whether the newspaper
 is available in Mumbai.
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Re: [Goanet] Joe's Bungalows

2006-07-13 Thread George Pinto

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 Check here and evaluate Joe's Bungalow for the last time:
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk4/178985034/ 
 Last date is extended till 20th July.

Joe, 

What to tell you. The tenants have taken over the property. One brother and 
sister (both mundkars)
don't get along, so they split the property. One has taken the land, one the 
house. The government
has surveyed it for the next IT park in Goa. Swen, a foreign national, with a 
legal tourist visa
but illegal business visit, has a sales deed in his name claiming the house. 
The local MLA wants
to convert the place to a playground for children (his children). Arvind says 
it is built on top
on a temple. The Goa Historical society want to convert it into a historic site 
since one
Portuguese coin was found there. The Devnagiri and Romi Konkani folks are going 
to hold opposing
rallies on the property tomorrow. If the house is still standing after that, 
the rave party folks
would like your permission to have a trance party for three days. Actually, 
they don't want your
permission, but would like the Goan public to think they legally seek 
permission. There is a
allegation that one Bihari and one Kashmiri stole mangoes from your tree since 
all crime is
committed by illegals in Goa while our Goa for Goans crowd is crime free. 
While all of this is
happening on your property, the Goan media is reporting that the flowers are 
blooming on your
neighbor’s property. 

Difficult to tell what the property is worth in our beloved Goa. Please check 
with Pedro who has
been in the real estate business in Goa for a very long time - about a week or 
so I think.

Regards,
George

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[Goanet] FW: [Goanet-news] Tours banned from Xavier Basilica, guides upset

2006-07-13 Thread Maria Alfonso

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Dear Sir

I was forwarded this email by a friend and was pleased to note the
contents.

In March of this year we visited the Saint Francis Xavier Church.  While
we were there, we were amazed to see how the guides were behaving and
speaking so loudly in a place of worship.  My husband politely took the
guide to one side and requested him not to speak so loudly as he was
praying.

The guide punched my husband on his head, face and kicked him in front
of the tourists.   No one came to assist my husband while the guide
kept attacking my husband.

This caused great distress to me and my husband as we had travelled to
Goa after 15 years and visited the Church to have peace of mind.  

My husband had to visit a doctor and get medication for the injuries he
suffered.  We were in Goa for 2 weeks but this ruined our trip.

I am amazed the some of the priests think that the ban is going too
far.

When tourist visit places of worship  they should treat it such and not
treat it as a market place.
 

Maria Alfonso




Subject: FW: [Goanet-news] Tours banned from Xavier Basilica, guides
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Subject: [Goanet-news] Tours banned from Xavier Basilica, guides upset
Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2006 00:23:37 +0530

http://www.speroforum.com/site/article.asp?idCategory=33idsub=122id=4
288t=Tours+banned+from+Xavier+Basilica%2C+guides+upset

Tours banned from Xavier Basilica, guides upset

The basilica rector maintains that the ban, which took effect July 2, 
will help maintain decorum and a sense of reverence inside the 
401-year-old church.

Monday, July 10, 2006
by UCA News

A recent ban on tour guides inside Bom Jesus Basilica in Old Goa, which

holds the relics of Saint Francis Xavier, has brought relief to some 
people but dismay to guides and others.

The basilica rector maintains that the ban, which took effect July 2, 
will help maintain decorum and a sense of reverence inside the 
401-year-old church, but guides, tourists and even some priests say the

decision is unfair.

The historic church, a World Heritage monument located in the one-time 
capital of the former Portuguese colony of Goa, 1,910 kilometers 
southwest of New Delhi, attracts hundreds of tourists and pilgrims 
daily.

Jesuit Father Savio Baretto, the rector, said basilica authorities 
decided to keep the guides out following complaints from local devotees

that tourists behave disrespectfully in the building.

The priest recounted that not long ago a guide picked a fight with a 
local devotee who resented the commotion tourists were creating. That 
incident started him thinking, he said, and after a month we decided 
to ban entry of guided tours. The new rule allows guides to speak to 
their tour groups outside the basilica or in the foyer, but not beyond
that.

Father Baretto also lamented that tourists often would barge into the 
basilica during religious services. Some visitors of other religions 
also would queue up for Communion, he added. Catholic Church rules 
allow only baptized Catholics to receive the Eucharist.

The Archeological Survey of India (ASI), which oversees the maintenance

of the building, agreed to the ban and will prepare signboards asking 
visitors to maintain silence and decorum inside, according to the 
rector.

Father Almir de Souza, who previously worked at the basilica, welcomed 
the ban. It's a sacred place, he explained, adding that tourist 
guides tell a lot of rubbish. He suggested the Church train Religious

and priests to be tour guides so they can explain the significance of

the various objects inside the basilica while maintaining a sense of 
sacredness within the church.

Father Moreno D'Souza, a senior priest attached to the basilica, 
acknowledges that the number of tourists has increased significantly 
over the years. At any given time, there are at least two or three 
groups of over a hundred each inside the basilica, and the end result

is a shouting match, said the Jesuit priest, who was basilica rector 
for several years.

He also said tourists often rush to receive Communion out of great 
devotion, but do not necessarily know what the Sacrament really means.
In one instance a local devotee discovered a tourist trying to take 
the consecrated host home as a relic, but the matter ended without 
incident after the consecrated host reached the priest, who consumed
it.

Nonetheless, the former rector and his confrere Father Verissimo 
Coutinho feel the ban is harsh.

Father D'Souza 

Re: [Goanet] Goanet as learning instrument

2006-07-13 Thread Valmiki Faleiro

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Hi RKN,

Who can forget Entebbe?  The way they trained and rehearsed
in a matter of three days, skimmed across Lake Victoria and
staged that daring operation -- complete with a lookalike of
Idi Amin in his usual car, even if a friendly neighbouring
African nation refused them refuelling on the return? A book
and a film have recorded that story.  (The hijacked plane,
btw, was not an El Al liner, it was an Air France liner on a
scheduled flight.)  Point is, it was intelligence again that
came to Israel's rescue.  They had the complete blueprints of
the Entebbe terminal building, made cardboard lifesize models
for their rehearsals and even had plans for various contigencies
(like dispersal of passengers in different areas inside the
terminal) in place, prior to embarking on that mission.
Intelligence plays the major role.  A brains versus brawn point.

But the Sinai radar and PLO HQ storming, which occured much
before, had their own brilliance.  (Both were staged, 
incidentally, by the Mossad.)  I'll briefly explain.

I'll condense only one.  The Soviets supplied their latest,
most sophisticated radar systems to the Egyptians.  It was
installed on the Sinai Peninsula.  The radar brought all of
Israel under enemy eye -- even a helicopter could not take
off even from the northernmost tip of Israel without the
enemy's knowledge.  The Israelis were alarmed.  The Israeli PM
called a meeting of the defence chiefs and the Mossad.  Each
one presented his plan on to deal with the situation.  The army
guy (I think the Yom Kippur hero, Gen. Moshe Dayan, was still
the Dy Chief of Army staff then) unfolded his plan to destroy
the radar.  The chief of the Air Force told how he would
carpet bomb the entire camp, including the Soviet radar.

Then came the turn of the Mossad chief. He begged of the PM to
allot the assignment to him.  We will NOT destroy that radar,
he pleaded, we will bring it back to Israel.

They did just that.  Together with requisite help from
the other services, a small helicopter-borne commando unit took
the relaxing Egyptian guards by complete surprise, dismantled 
the radar system and brought it back home ... piece by piece!

(It was later re-assembled and studied in detail by Israeli and 
western techies, in Israel, to Russia's chagrin.  The Soviets
changed their arms policy: never again did a first-generation 
piece of defence equipment leave their shores.)

Regards, Valmiki
P.S.: If you read my piece that appeared in today's 
(Goa) Herald, also posted here earlier, on the Mumbai
serial blasts, you know better how I regard the Mossad ;-)


On Thu, 13 Jul 2006 Radhakrishnan Nair wrote :
--
(Valmiki Faleiro: I am also - just btw, again - an admirer of the 
Mossad's achievements ... particularly the episodes about the 
most advanced Soviet-supplied radar installed by Egypt in the Sinai
(which put the entire of Israel under enemy scanner) prior to
the Yom Kippur war, and the raid on PLO HQ in a Beirut
highrise.)

Don't you remember the Entebe operation, Val? It involved an 
Israeli passenger
plane hijacked by Muslim extremists during Idi Amin's regime.
-- RKN

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Re: [Goanet] We must go to war!

2006-07-13 Thread Valmiki Faleiro

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[Goanet] Auditing the auditors: how the media reports CAG

2006-07-13 Thread Frederick Noronha

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On Wednesday evening (July 12, 2006), the Goa office of the
Comptroller and Auditor General [1] released its annual report for the
year-ended March 31, 2005. A hurried overview (while not claiming to
be comprehensive) of what the report says is here [2] on Goanet [3].

This morning (July 13), it was interesting to see the response this
story got from the mainstream media in Goa. Given that papers and
presspersons have been heavily politicised in recent years -- they
always were, but this activity took on a new high under the Parrikar
regime -- the slants were clearly showing.

Herald [4] aka oHeraldo, struggling to maintain its role as a
inconsistently critical paper (needing to be critical of the current
Congress ruling establishment, but also someone as influential as
ex-CM Manohar Parrikar, seen by many here as a CM-in-waiting), puts it
about the most bluntly.

Its lead-item, that dominates three-fourths of the top-half of its
front-page, says, IFFI'04: CAG nails Parrikar. Financial
irregularities involving crores come to light [5]. Another
top-of-the-page single column notes that the CAG report raps cops [6].

Herald [7] adds some background to say: The expenditure by the
Manohar Parrikar government has drawn a lot of controversy and
opposition from the public, because of the huge expenditure involved.
The CAG report confirms these wasteful expenditure in all areas and
states that huge expenditure was incurred in haste by-passing
established tendering procedures, allowing inflated projections to be
passed without adequate checks, passing exorbitant costs on
consultants/contractors and architects though they lacked
justification and transparency.

It has specific highlights showing what the CAG says about wastage of
money -- large sums of it -- on the obviously-questionable
cine-multiplex Inox deal, raod works, road package works, consultants,
the contractor and the restorations and upgraded of the Kala Academy.

The Navhind Times [8], for long Goa's dominant newspaper player but
seeing erosion in that postion coupled with fears of a Times of India
[9]. entry into the local market in Goa, had this story: IFFI-2004:
CAG pulls skeletons out of government cupboard [10].

It's an amazing 26-para report, with a lot of details, but which
doesn't once mention the name of Manohar Parrikar. This means
forgetting the politician who staked his reputation in getting
IFFI2004 adamantly done his way, and claimed credit for it too. In
para 25, there's just a reference to the then chief minister of Goa.

*Gomantak Times*, owned by the family of the Maratha strongman
Nationalist Congress Party politician Sharadrao Pawar, carries the
story as a smallish two-column on the bottom of Page 1, titled
IFFI-04: GSIDC plays 'villain' in CAG report. Rapped for wastage of
funds.

GT, as the paper is called, has been doing some interesting stories on
some issues in recent times. Unfortunately it doesn't have a website,
and simply gave up trying to maintain its presence in cyberspace
perhaps not long after the web-savvy former editor Ashwin Tombat
ceased being at that slot.

*Sunaparant*, Goa's lone Konkani daily paper (though not a widely-read
one), plays down the story to a three-column item, with its headline
just peeking above the 'fold'. It talks about the wastages in creating
infrastructure for IFFI2004, and leaves it to the reader to recall the
politics behind this particular event. Interestingly, *Sunaparant's*
main story for the day is about how every house in Goa will get
hi-tech, with 10MB[PS] connections by March. Am I just too skeptical,
or do we have an infinite capacity to buy hype?

*Navprabha*, the Marathi-language sister publication of  *The Navhind
Times*, carries CAG as the top-of-the-page 1 story, with a
red-coloured headline, but in a smaller size. It reads: 04chya
IFFImulay 13 kotichi fatka'.

*Tarun Bharat*, an earlier Belgaum-based paper now with a Porvorim
office and considered the closest to the BJP (till recently, you'll
appreciate why below), has two-thirds of its front-page still devoted
to the Mumbai blasts, a couple of days after the event. The remaining
one-third goes to a report on a pro-Marathi meet in Panjim on July 15,
Rane's talk of a law against communalism, and an attack in Porvorim.
Poor CAG and all the work put it; it only makes it to Page 3, with a
bland heading that IFFI2004 lead to vaifal kharcha.

*Gomantak*, the Marathi sister-publication of the 

Re: [Goanet] Pl identify this plant/fruits (with answer)

2006-07-13 Thread JoeGoaUk

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That was 'Gomi Follam' (Gum fruits?) which has sticky substance and was used as 
gum.
( two such trees/plants are near Panaji, one on Campal Road New Govt.Gym and 
other
near market.)

Those days, we even used it for labelling our school books/note books besides 
using
pasting letter as said in the Clue.

Besides, these 'gomi follam' we also used 'Xita Cuyam' or 'Beje Cuyam' (canji) 
as
gum and during Xmas time for giant Star decoration and 'festachim bonderam' or
armusao etc we used 'guruth' as gum (made up of Maida Flour)

There were about 7 entries with just one correct answer.
There were two who said 'Chunam'

Thanks to you all.



Please identify this plant/fruits
Check it here
http://flickr.com/photos/joegoauk4/182343026/
http://flickr.com/photos/joegoauk4/182343027/

I saw this plant after so many years. During my school time, as a child, I
remember even eating its fruits (see the pic) as riped ones taste sweeter. There
was a big tree near my school. Its fruits are first green and when riped it is
yellow.
There was even another variety of this plant/fruits elsewhere which were much
bigger in size (as big as 'bomboichim boram' or 'amballe').

Clue:
Steps to send a letter (e.g. letter from India).
- write a letter
- then close it
- then paste it
- then stamp it
- finally, post it.

Check it here
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Re: [Goanet] Garbage W.P. 3/2005 - Final Order - Bomaby High Court at Goa.

2006-07-13 Thread Lawrence Rodrigues

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On 7/13/06, Floriano Lobo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

... this is the true and faithful reproduction of the certified copy
of the said Order ...
:
:
This Final Order is highly appreciated as it gives Goa Su-Raj Party to
go in Contempt of Court petition if  the Director of Municipal
Administration does not tighten his belt. 


Well Done, Floriano,


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[Goanet] Goa news for July 14, 2006

2006-07-13 Thread Goanet News Service

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Visit http://www.goanet.org/newslinks.php for the full stories.


*** Goa put on high alert (NDTV)

Goa has been put on alert following serial bomb blasts in
neigbouring Mumbai, police said. We have increased patrolling
at railway stations, bus stands, and other crowded places, D K
Sawant, Superintendent of Police (North) said.

http://www.ndtv.com/template/template.asp?category=Nationaltemplate=Terrorstrikesslug=Goa
put on high alertid=90052callid=1


*** Goa declares Rs 1 cr aid for Mumbai blast victims (Business
Standard India)

The Goa government will contribute Rs 1 crore from the Chief
Ministers relief fund for Mumbai's blast victims.

http://www.business-standard.com/common/storypage_c.php?leftnm=11bKeyFlag=INautono=2942


*** Goa to have another cricket stadium: Minister (New Kerala)

Panaji: Goa will soon have another international cricket
stadium, State Sports Minister Pandurang Madkaikar told the
state legislative assembly today.

http://www.newkerala.com/news3.php?action=fullnewsid=22409


*** Goa Christian council opposes mandatory HIV test (New
Kerala)

Panaji: The Council for Social Justice and Peace of then
Archidiocese of Goa and Daman has advocated voluntary and not
mandatory HIV testing before marriage.

http://www.newkerala.com/news3.php?action=fullnewsid=21638


*** Goa's educational policy may eliminate Marathi: Velingkar
(New Kerala)

Panaji: Activists seeking to promote Marathi in Goa have
expressed fears that the current state education policy would
lead to elimination of the language from the curriculum by the
next decade.

http://www.newkerala.com/news3.php?action=fullnewsid=21571


*** Opposition attacks Goa government over IFFI expenditure
(New Kerala)

Panaji: Opposition BJP attacked the ruling benches in Goa
Assembly over expenditure incurred during the International
Film Festival of India.

http://www.newkerala.com/news3.php?action=fullnewsid=20956


*** Goa, Bihar win in Girls' U-17 national football (New
Kerala)

New Delhi: Goa came from behind to defeat Jharkhand 4-1 in
their opening Cluster C qualifying round fixture of the third
Junior Girls Under-17 National Football Championship in
Chandigarh today.

http://www.newkerala.com/news3.php?action=fullnewsid=21675


*** CAG report cites lapses of Goa police (New Kerala)

Panaji: Comptroller and Auditor General (CAG) of India has
cited various lapses on the part of Goa police, including its
failure to dispose off arms dating back to Portuguese era and
lying unserviceable in the armoury.

http://www.newkerala.com/news3.php?action=fullnewsid=3


*** Goa govt: paucity of manpower has affected restoration work
(New Kerala)

Panaji, July 12: Goa government today admitted that the paucity
of manpower has affected the work of restoring age-old birth and
death certificates in the state which are in bad condition.

http://www.newkerala.com/news3.php?action=fullnewsid=21984


*** Speaker disallows telecast of proceedings except question
hour (New Kerala)

Panaji: Goa Assembly Speaker Fransisco Sardinha today barred
the electronic media from telecasting the proceedings of the
House other than question hour.

http://www.newkerala.com/news3.php?action=fullnewsid=22427


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[Goanet] We must go to war!

2006-07-13 Thread afra dias

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 Hi Goanetters, 
Valmiki Faleiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] WROTE.

Yes, India must go to war. An all-out war. A full-fledged, no-holds-barred 
war. Not a conventional war in the military sense. Nor a war against another 
sovereign nation. But an all-out, unrestrained, unconventional war against the 
masterminds, the planners, indeed the entire apparatus -- however organized, 
structured and funded.

There comes a time in the life of every nation when tough decisions need to be 
made. Etc. Etc.
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All those who oppose the war against Iraq I suppose by now have changed their 
mind, DOING NOTHING IS NOT AN OPTION.

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[Goanet] PROFESSONALS TO SAY NO TO BRIBES

2006-07-13 Thread Manoj Ganpatrao Raikar

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Dear All,

It was very disturbing that before the strike on Mumbai suburban rail 
network,your drive in favour Right to information act and say no to bribes got 
pledges of only over 19,000.

It is sad that such few numbers took pledge,any way it is a welcome move and  I 
pray that numbers will grow.

This movement will suceed only if the professionals like ADVOCATES,CHARTERED 
ACCOUNTANTS,ARCHITECTS,ENGINEERS, DOCTORS AND OTHER PROFESSIONALS JOIN THE 
MOVEMENT.

My sincere appeal to have an sponsored advertisement on NDTV featuring CHILDREN 
URGING THER PROFESSIONAL PARENTS AND GOVERNMENT OFFICIALS OF SAYING NO TO 
BRIBES ,AS THIS WORLD BELONGS TO THEM.


Regards


Manoj




Manoj Raikar
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