Re: [Goanet] Dinesh D Souza in debate - Santosh
--- http://www.GOANET.org --- St. Mary's Convent High school, Mapusa is staging a play titled Lion King December 1, 2007 - Hanuman Hall, Mapusa to fundraise for a false ceiling for the school hall upgrading the school playground Headmistress Sr. Namika A.C. / Teacher Mrs. Sonia Noronha [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Thanks Santosh for your clarifications. As you state below you are opposed to all forms of ideology. I accept that. I have said in the past, your claim to fame on Goanet is, you are opposed to everything that anybody writes. And you know what I call that? :=)) Clarifications and Solutions are not found by merely denouncing others. It is found by providing one's own observations and explanations or alternative concepts to issues; or supporting or expanding what others say. This also involves understanding and accepting other points of view. Your Opposed to all forms of ideology may well arise from your failure to understand some of those ideologies. After all you cannot be an authority of everything. Perhaps in this thread you should clarify your thinking, Are humans BORN MORAL?. This could be a yes / no answer. Now in fairness to you, you did say WHAT you are willing to defend. To quote you (see below), defend with evidence both hatred and compassion at least 7 million years in our evolutionary history. There is only a small problem with the above. Humans did not exists this long ... not even half as long ... not even one-tenth as long. So as a supurlo Goenkar, I am not sure what exactly (science, philosophy or theology) you are willing to defend with evidence ... from ... at least 7 million years in OUR evolutionary history. Ghuspot murree? Homo sapiens (from Wikipedia): H. sapiens (sapiens means wise or intelligent) has lived from about 250,000 years ago to the present. Between 400,000 years ago and the second interglacial period in the Middle Pleistocene, around 250,000 years ago, the trend in cranial expansion and the elaboration of stone tool technologies developed, providing evidence for a transition from H. erectus to H. sapiens. The earliest fossil hominid, Ardipithecus ramidus, is dated at 4.4 million years. Can you clarify the animals of at least 7 million years ago had hatred and compassion (what ever that means) and how was that different from the behavior patterns of dinosaurs who existed 65 million years ago? Are you using the terms Hatred and Compassion in animals interchangeably with human Morality and Ideology? Your attempt to switch the terms of this thread suggest that you may be getting out of your league - just like me.:=)) I will let you have the last word on this thread / debate which is How Religion Poisons Everything. Kind Regards, GL --- Santosh Helekar wrote: Those who have read and understood my writings on Goanet know that I am opposed to all forms of ideology. What is undeniable, I submit, however, and am willing to defend with evidence, is that both hatred and compassion predate theistic and atheistic ideologies by at least 7 million years in our evolutionary history.
[Goanet] Protest rally against SEZ in Panjim, Nov 23- to
--- http://www.GOANET.org --- St. Mary's Convent High school, Mapusa is staging a play titled Lion King December 1, 2007 - Hanuman Hall, Mapusa to fundraise for a false ceiling for the school hall upgrading the school playground Headmistress Sr. Namika A.C. / Teacher Mrs. Sonia Noronha [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Dear Bhandare, Thanks for your note. I did not know the info that Miguel Braganza posted, but my position in terms of expectations about orgs and their functioning still holds. I do have a question, and I hope you will regard it as a fair one. Were you by any chance aware of this information which Miguel Braganza posted? Or to put it another way, were you aware but wished to know whether Goanetters in Goa knew of said affiliations. If you were aware, then it would have been good to hear it from you. By now, you know that most netters do not touch certain issues, and I do feel that some of your good questions do get answered on this forum. That is all one may hope for. venantius From: Bhandare [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Goanet] Protest rally against SEZ in Panjim, Nov 23- to venantius Dear venantius: as miguel bab as pointed out one group seems to be more closely aligned to the BJP and the other seems to be a congress proxy... i found a lot of merit in rajan's logic that we all need to unite and bring down this current corrupt government without thinking who will benefit from it..if the next dispensation perssts with this anti goa activity then a similar movement could be launched to make life miserable for them regards b
Re: [Goanet] : Burps by adults in public places are not considered civilised.
--- http://www.GOANET.org --- St. Mary's Convent High school, Mapusa is staging a play titled Lion King December 1, 2007 - Hanuman Hall, Mapusa to fundraise for a false ceiling for the school hall upgrading the school playground Headmistress Sr. Namika A.C. / Teacher Mrs. Sonia Noronha [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Dears, Rajan Narayan has published my letter [see truncated version below] verbatim in the Goan Observer [24-30 Nov. 2007 issue] with the following footer: EDITOR'S NOTE: My strength is as the strength of ten because my conscience is clear. May Rajan have the strength of a Centurion [of a hundred] instead of a decimated Cohort. We need more Editors to write about things happening in Goa, even if it is exclusive of things that offend their friends or advertisers or owners. I have made no allegations about the clarity of his conscience ... and I do not consider accepting expensive birthday gifts as a sin, specially when the good Lord has blessed one with 60 years of life. However, I do not know if his mind is clear when he calls Patricia Pinto, Annand Madgavkar or Leroy Veloso a Saffronite. Perhaps, old age is affecting his colour vision ;-) The Goan Observer is a tabloid worth the Rs.5/- one pays. In fact,it is value for money even if one is illiterate.. the graphic on the cover is just that:GRAPHIC. Mog asundi. Miguel On Nov 18, 2007 12:53 AM, Miguel Braganza [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There is no problem in our dear Rajan Narayan, enjoying the largesse of Digambar-bab and others closely associated with him, or his gratitude to them for their pecuniary him and them. There is no problem in him painting a snowy picture of Secular Shridhar at the CM's official residence earlier this week. However, his comments in Stray Thoughts [GO 17-23 Nov., 2007] on the rest of the Core Group of the Goa Bachao Abhiyan ...and seeing them as saffron ... are totally uncalled for, even if he should suffer from some incurable jaundice. Patricia Pinto, Annand Madgaokar, Soter De Souza, Ritu Prasad and Leroy Veloso were part of the GBA delegation that went with Dr. Oscar Rebello to the CM's residence on Monday to protest against the withdrawal of both, the FIR against hill cutting and the Stop Work order. [I could not make it as I had a prior appointment to discuss the revival of agriculture with Parish Priests of Tiswadi taluka at Chorao at the same time.] So which of us in the GBA are really saffronites? In Goa of yesteryears, gratitude for a good meal was traditionally expressed by a good belch or burp and hence the expression Borem kharllam tezo denkh kaddta. Is 'Rajan showing his gratitude for the lavish present at his 60 birthday now ... on the 4th birthday of Goan Observer? Tum soglleam mukar denkhor kaddtai re, baba Rajan? Are we returning to amil, pez ani denkh ... with the advent of Aldeia de Goa and SEZ? Mog asundi. Miguel -- -.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-. Miguel Braganza, S1 Gracinda Apts, Rajvaddo, Mhapsa 403507 Goa Ph 9822982676 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.
[Goanet] The Navy should consider this for Christmas/New Year in Goa
--- http://www.GOANET.org --- St. Mary's Convent High school, Mapusa is staging a play titled Lion King December 1, 2007 - Hanuman Hall, Mapusa to fundraise for a false ceiling for the school hall upgrading the school playground Headmistress Sr. Namika A.C. / Teacher Mrs. Sonia Noronha [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Whether coincidentally or otherwise, STOI 25/11/07 has this piece titled A mess in the air which refers not only to the U.S. experiment with lifting military restrictions on the use of its airspace during the Thanksgiving holiday weekend (as per my two previous posts) but also the IAF's decision to open up Indian air space over the next six months starting with a part of Chennai's. How big a deal is the latter? As will be seen from the copy-paste below from THE HINDU, the actual announcement was made in early October. Two months have already elapsed. Unless the exercise is actually starting only now, it will be over by March. Secondly, this has been an issue under discussion for at least two YEARS if not more. It seems like a case of very little, very, very late. Thirdly, it seems like a rather academic exercise since a place like Goa which faces acute slot shortages at Christmas/New Year due to naval restrictions all through the year has not been prioritised for inclusion so far, at least to our knowledge. The exact nature of joint airspace management and why Chennai airspace has been chosen for starters has not been elaborated upon. It may all be a big eyewash. The phrase regarding rollout, depending on its outcome, is a dead giveaway. The successful outcome has to be engineered by the military (which controls 50% of Indian air space, second only to China and Brazil's 80%), not treated as a matter of pure chance. Joint airspace management project begins trial run Cargo dwell time at airports cut for faster clearance Plan pointers Armed Forces, Airports Authority of India will share airspace.Project will be extended to other regions depending on outcome. Ashwini Phadnis K.R. Srivats New Delhi, Oct. 2 The Government has started two new initiatives - joint airspace management and reducing the time for clearance of cargo from the airports - so as to not only ease air traffic congestion but also allow faster clearance of consignments arriving by air. Both the initiatives were started on October 1 this year. Official sources told Business Line that the joint airspace management programme involving the armed forces and Airports Authority of India (AAI) had started in the Chennai Flight Information Region (FIR) on a trial basis and would be extended to other regions depending on its outcome. The successful implementation of the project could lead to better flexible use of airspace for both civil and military operations. Sources said that the optimal airspace management was being done as per the laid down procedures of the international civil aviation organization (ICAO) and procedures followed in the UK. The decision to go in for joint airspace management was firmed up after a high level meeting held in the Ministry of Civil Aviation recently. The sharing of airspace between military and civil agencies has been a bone of contention for some time now. Late last year, the armed forces had not accepted the proposal of vesting the entire Indian airspace with civil aviation authorities. The Indian airspace is a national asset and should be available for all operators as per requirements as it cannot be unlimited and there is need to protect it for reasons of national security, which cannot be compromised, said a senior Government official. The implementation of the joint airspace management initiative would prove a boon for the domestic air industry which has been recording double digit growth http://www.thehindubusinessline.com/2007/10/03/stories/2007100351761000.htm
Re: [Goanet] Go peacefully...... (a small correction needed)
--- http://www.GOANET.org --- St. Mary's Convent High school, Mapusa is staging a play titled Lion King December 1, 2007 - Hanuman Hall, Mapusa to fundraise for a false ceiling for the school hall upgrading the school playground Headmistress Sr. Namika A.C. / Teacher Mrs. Sonia Noronha [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Mogall Miguel bab, On Sun, 18 Nov 2007, you wrote: He believes that all THREE of them erred initially and TWO of them realized their folly while alive and accepted it. Fr. Antonio Pereira sj changed his mind seeing the reality. My response: If by the above statement, you want to say that Fr. Antonio Pereira s.j. changed his mind on the issue of the script for the official language Konkani, then you must be possessing proof of this. Therefore, I shall be obliged if you could furnish that. Please remember that Fr. Pereira was a prolific writer whose instructive and educative articles appeared in several Konkani periodicals. If at all he changed his mind on such an important matter, he must have written so and published it somewhere. Please tell us where. Otherwise, a couple of years from now, I presume that we shall be told that the late Fr. Moreno too changed his stand while on his deathbed! You wrote: A year back, would you imagine KBM conducting a seminar on Konkani writing in the Romi lipi or giving literary awards to Romi writers in Konkani? It is the reality today. My response: My dear Miguelbab, your credibility is limited by your credulity. If you believe, without question, and propagate everything that your sources dish out, then your credibility is bound to take a beating. This is irrespective of and notwithstanding your professed pains to be right. For your kind information, the KBM has all along been giving prizes to Konkani books written in the Roman script as well. It also awards Konkani journalists. And, if my memory serves me right, the number of Romi journalists who have been awarded to date at least equals (if not exceeds) that of Nagri journalists. So, please take the word of your informants, however reverend they might be, with a large dose of salt. Sotachench Zoit Zatolem. Mog asum. Sebastian M. Borges Miguel Braganza [EMAIL PROTECTED] had written: Mogall Sebastianv-bab, If, perhaps, by the word confrere you refer to Fr. Pratap Naik sj who, like Fr. Antonio Pereira sj, once believed that the future of Konkani was in Devanagri, then the word pliable is NOT used by him to describe Fr. Antonio Pereira or Fr. Moreno de Souza sj. He believes that all THREE of them erred initially and TWO of them realised their folly while alive and accepted it. Fr. Antonio Pereira sj changed his mind seeing the reality. Fr. Pratap Naik sj has also witnessed first hand the unfolding of the backlash to the atempted imposition of Devanagri in neighbouring Karnataka. Perhaps, you and I will also see it closer home, sooner rather than later. A year back, would you imagine KBM conducting a seminar on Konkani writing in the Romi lipi or giving literary awards to Romi writers in Konkani? It is the reality today. We live today for a better tomorrow. Yesterday is dead and gone. Tell me if I am wrong. I have never run away from the truth. I have confidence that neither will you, although you may ignore it when inconvenient. Mog asundi. Miguel Be a better pen pal. Text or chat with friends inside Yahoo! Mail. See how. http://overview.mail.yahoo.com/
Re: [Goanet] Protest rally against SEZ in Panjim, Nov 23
--- http://www.GOANET.org --- St. Mary's Convent High school, Mapusa is staging a play titled Lion King December 1, 2007 - Hanuman Hall, Mapusa to fundraise for a false ceiling for the school hall upgrading the school playground Headmistress Sr. Namika A.C. / Teacher Mrs. Sonia Noronha [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Dear Chinmay, Do not rush to put words in my mouth and attribute your inferences to me. The SEZ Virodhi Manch or SVM is a FEDERATION of village level movements against SEZ. The Kerim Nagrik Samitee [KNS] leaders were in the Vishwas Satarkar led BJP bandwagon till June 2007. He jumped the track and took an i-pill to keep mum during his Speakership. It has remained that way in the morning after his defeat at the hustings. They found their voice through KNS. So these guys are NOT Congressmen. The People's Movement Against SEZ [PMAS] has targeted the Congress MLA of Loutolim ...and initially even worked with Matanhy Saldanha i.e. till he shared a platform with the BJP and Utt Goenkara in support of Dr.Wilfred Misquita for BJP. The PMAS are neither Congress nor BJP sympathisers. The Council for Social Justice and Peace [CSJP] is the social action council of the Archdiocese of Goa that is led professionally by trained staff. It has been a part of the GBA and is apolitical. The GBA is an apolitical group of individuals, NGOs and CSOs. The Jagrut Goem and Lok Shakti that have extended support to the SVM are anti-communal [read BJP], but not necesarily pro-Congress. Their Secularism may be as suspect as Shridhar's [as certified by Rajan Narayan last week] The SVM leadership will have to exercise caution to ensure that there is no Admiral Timmaji to promote neo-Colonisation in the name of ridding Goa [a creation of the Estado do India Portuguesa that the inheritors of Timmaji wnat to expand to include the rest of the Kingdom of Sunda or Sonde. The worship of Renukamma at Sondatti was till 1980 truly and naturally, digamber] of the Muslim migrants. The SVM in fact, all anti-SEZ groups ...would do well to study the HISTORY of the Konkan or the APARANT between the accidental meeting of Vasco da Gama and Timmaji in 1502 A.D., the trade deals between 1502 and 1508, the arrival of Afonso de Albuquerque in 1509, the first attempt at presa de Goa in March 1510, the pimping and prostitution till November, the second attempt on 25 November, 1510, the success and there after. Manohar Moogaonkar's book INSIDE GOA [first published by Govt. of Goa, second edtion by Architects Autonomous] is value for money and a must read for any social activist in Goa. Valmiki's article in oHERALDo today is only indicative. Mog asundi. Miguel Date: Sat, 24 Nov 2007 18:41:21 -0800 (PST) From: Bhandare [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Goanet] Protest rally against SEZ in Panjim, Nov 23- to venantius Dear venantius: as miguel bab as pointed out one group seems to be more closely aligned to the BJP and the other seems to be a congress proxy... i found a lot of merit in rajan's logic that we all need to unite and bring down this current corrupt government without thinking who will benefit from it..if the next dispensation perssts with this anti goa activity then a similar movement could be launched to make life miserable for them regards b On Nov 24, 2007 4:16 PM, Miguel Braganza [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dear Chinmay Bhandare, One of the two organisations is affiliated to a political party that had opposed industrialisation of Buthkhamb-Keri plateau in Ponda taluka during the period of the Rane Government and then permitted another company to do just that to Buthkhamb- Keri during its own [mis]rule. Look at Rajan Parrikar's photos of the GMAS and SVM protests. No prizes for guessing the right answers! The choice was between rubbers [Nylon-6,6] and the morning after i-pill [Meditabs] both totally unnecessary if one knows the company he keeps and does the right thing at the right time. Mog asundi. Miguel Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2007 16:00:18 -0800 (PST) From: Bhandare [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Goanet] Protest rally against SEZ in Panjim, Nov 23 Dear All: why do we need two different organizations to protest a short distance from each other if the over all objective appears to be the same? what exactly are the diferences of opinion between these two organizations? regards B -.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-. Miguel Braganza, S1 Gracinda Apts, Rajvaddo, Mhapsa 403507 Goa Ph 9822982676 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.
Re: [Goanet] Communal communist party - nandigram ???/to Sonia
--- http://www.GOANET.org --- St. Mary's Convent High school, Mapusa is staging a play titled Lion King December 1, 2007 - Hanuman Hall, Mapusa to fundraise for a false ceiling for the school hall upgrading the school playground Headmistress Sr. Namika A.C. / Teacher Mrs. Sonia Noronha [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Why criticise them? The Marxists are doing a good job. They are working overtime to defend capitalism (and the Tatas) in Nandigram. And haven't we discussed how China is going to be -- if not already -- the most efficient capitalist country around? Question everything? Thesis, anti-thesis and synthesis? Here you go As far as the US goes, I think it too has done well for itself. Hasn't it too been a (barely covert) supporter of the Pol Pot regime, and even a supporter of China (when it suited the US's interest)? They say the West would kill to retain its lifestyle, never mind just building convenient arguments! So that's why I agree to disagree with Selma. FN On 23/11/2007, Carvalho [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have never been a fan of the CPI, CPI (M) or any Marxist ideology for that matter. Their unsavoury ties with China and their virulent hatred of the USA, make them very unpalatable to me, together with the fact that there is something unnatural in trying to curb man's natural instinct to better oneself materially. -- Frederick Noronha http://fn.goa-india.org Ph 0091-832-2409490 12000+ downloadable, sharable hi-res photos http://www.flickr.com/photos/fn-goa/
[Goanet] A Royal Good Time - Britain.
--- http://www.GOANET.org --- St. Mary's Convent High school, Mapusa is staging a play titled Lion King December 1, 2007 - Hanuman Hall, Mapusa to fundraise for a false ceiling for the school hall upgrading the school playground Headmistress Sr. Namika A.C. / Teacher Mrs. Sonia Noronha [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Philip was not the first, likely not the last: the phrase 'royal piccadillos' exists for a good reason. The Ole King's Soul requires continous and Merry fortifiction, and his subjects cheer his 'conquests' , if only with a nod and a wink. I am not sure if Seb writes from Britain, i understand Her Majesty and her Home Minister are not so thrilled about the issue of unfactual Portuguese travel documents to former colonial subjects, and the resultant fact of a small new colony of Goans on Ilha Britannica. We live in a little glass house, so lets save the stones, and some of our energy - it will go a long way in Goa when that Old Age cheque arrives from Whitehall at 62. That fact is not lost on my cousin Joe Clark: 700 hundred a month, Sterling, and sin, on Baga beach: his end of the bargain - a year in London, as a student, 1954, before the next stop, Canada, and yet another cheerful 'Dominion dollar' reminder on the 1st of each month, pinned directly to a bank account in Goa. eric. - Be a better sports nut! Let your teams follow you with Yahoo Mobile. Try it now.
Re: [Goanet] DEVANAGARI LOBBY PROMOTES
--- http://www.GOANET.org --- St. Mary's Convent High school, Mapusa is staging a play titled Lion King December 1, 2007 - Hanuman Hall, Mapusa to fundraise for a false ceiling for the school hall upgrading the school playground Headmistress Sr. Namika A.C. / Teacher Mrs. Sonia Noronha [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Mogacheamno, Hench amchem durdoiv! Sompadpeachi 'xibir' 18ver ani Uzvaddavpeachem xibir 25ver! Xeboi Konknni mogia. Hanga vaur Romi Konknnicho ga? kai loddhai 'roman' veoktinchi? Sotak ken'na tori zoir mellot ga saiba? Mhaka hanga kovi Cyril Fernandes (Goan Review Gulab-anuch nirmann kel'lo kovi to) hache ek Romi Konknni sobhek ghoddlele kovitechi yad zata - Gulab Romi kantte devonagri... Hea xibarak to hajir aslo mhunnttoch tachean he poristhicher ek kovita boroum ietali mu ga. Sompadpeachi zomat, Uzvaddavpeachem chikan! vo oxem kitem. Vo 'vixoy Konknni vad Inglix' vo 'utram konknni, rattavolli inglix' oxem kitem... Marcosbab, Romi Konknni borovpeancho ghott ekvott ho! Hem novem nhoi onnbhov asa mhaka. Ek sompadpi eka baddeachea borovpeak gheun up-sompadpeachi sap kikont kortalo. Aplea totvam kodden ek zantto borovpi zullona dekhun ek nenntto borovpi tea mhalgoddeak kochro korun borovpak laglo. Dhoronn hem tea nemalleachem! Ekvott amcho ho! Konknni mogi ami! And and want? Anik anik zaiem? Mog asum di. Fausto S M Borges wrote:- Dear friends, On Sunday, 18/11/07, at the invitation of the Convenor, I attended the ?Workshop? conducted by KBM about which Miguel raised such a ruckus. As I had expected, there was no session on Orthography. The three sessions involved writing of (a) poetry, (b) story, and (c) essay. But, instead of a ?workshop? it turned to be a ?seminar?. This was because the ?budding writers,? for whom it was meant to be, played truant leaving the ?veterans? who were to be the ?resource persons? to discuss the finer points of the different genres. We were informed by the Convener (editor of JIVIT) that he had contacted about 80 Konkani writers in Roman script (mostly contributors to his magazine) by phone or e-mail, and about 40 of them had confirmed their attendance. But at the last moment they were dissuaded by the publisher of JIVIT, who promised them that he would organize a better workshop for them next Sunday, i.e. on the 25th. Consequently, only about 15 of them 40 turned up, most of whom were the resource persons and established writers. A few came in response to the press release. Those who attended include poets Yusuf Sheikh (main speaker), Ashok Chodankar, Cyril Fernandes, Guadalupe Dias, story writers Prakash Porienkar, Maya Kharangate, Marcos Gonsalves, Vincy Quadros, essay writers Romeo Almeida (main speaker), John Gomes Kokoy, Jose Salvador Fernandes, Eliton Fernandes... Since it was not a workshop, no script was used at all. The speakers referred to their notes; but there was no way of knowing the script in which they were written. The participants in the audience took down notes in any script which convenient to each of them. In the end, all I can say is that the budding writers in Konkani (Roman script) were cheated of an exposure to experienced writers by a dada who specializes in cheating; they would not lose anything, but would have really gained, by attending two workshops on two consecutive Sundays.
[Goanet] Chandrakant Keni and Gulf Goans
--- http://www.GOANET.org --- St. Mary's Convent High school, Mapusa is staging a play titled Lion King December 1, 2007 - Hanuman Hall, Mapusa to fundraise for a false ceiling for the school hall upgrading the school playground Headmistress Sr. Namika A.C. / Teacher Mrs. Sonia Noronha [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Cedrico and Joe Let me add a few more comments on this subject.I cat help it. 1. If not for Gulf Goans, there would have been massive unemployment, specially among Catholics who were disciminated during the MGP time. 2. Major part of economy in salcette,. depends on gulf goans. See the impact during gulf war and ask any buisnessman in margao, including rikshaw and taxiwallas. 3. Ck and his buddy CM- whom he praised to glory in one of the recent article in herald- have been enjoying the fruits of this hard labour in terms of booming real estate buisness. 3. all these people who work in gulf have to work in very harsh condition, sometimes at the risk of their lives and away from their loved ones. 4.as cedrico said, if the employers in goa paid decent salaries and not taken massive bribes, many of them would be in goa.Find out what peanut salaries are being paid by the goan firms, specially the mining companies who have made tonnes of money. They have been exploiting goan for years! And i fully support Mathany on the issue of minimum wages. Ck and his likes, who are few But powerful due to their association with power lobby have done nothing for the betterment of Goa and Goans. For them, their interest come first and rest can go to hell.These are GREEDY SELFISH and SELFCENTRED PSEDUPATRIOTS. If Ck has has any Morals and Love for Goa, he should fight Issues pertaining in his OWN backyard in Margao or Quietly Relocate himself in Maharashtra. Cheers Nelson
[Goanet] criticism required
--- http://www.GOANET.org --- St. Mary's Convent High school, Mapusa is staging a play titled Lion King December 1, 2007 - Hanuman Hall, Mapusa to fundraise for a false ceiling for the school hall upgrading the school playground Headmistress Sr. Namika A.C. / Teacher Mrs. Sonia Noronha [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- We need criticism in this world and the object of criticism is for better governance. We have opposition party in the Government, critic committee in film industry and theatre company. People should understand that criticism is for the healthy development of a company or association. The Roman Catholic Church was not functioning from the time of its formation. There was lot of corruption then and lot of unwanted things did happen. This angered Martin Luther who revolted against the church. Had then did the top leaders of the church viz the Pope and the cardinals and their advisory body had to take a concrete decision taking the criticism as the main point of discussion and remedy was to be sought then, the church would not have been divided. Today the same corruption has surfaced in the church. The system of running the church and keeping the reigns in the hands of the clergy has called doomsday near. The population of the clergy is diminishing and in Goa what ever handful of clergy is available many prefer to jump to the oversee greener pasture where they make dollars fill their pockets. Its time that lay people should stop throwing donations to the churches for various projects and it is high time that the parishioners stop being “Nana Boil “ dumb bulls and shaking their heads at every call given by the clergy for donations. Its time for the parishioners to say, ok enough is enough now please let us maintain our churches and let the clergy only look after the spiritual part and at the same time justice should be done to the pay packet of the clergy as they are also human beings like us and some little but not too much luxury can be given to them. Paul Mascarenhas _ Post free property ads on Yello Classifieds now! www.yello.in http://ss1.richmedia.in/recurl.asp?pid=221
Re: [Goanet] Channeachya raati
--- http://www.GOANET.org --- St. Mary's Convent High school, Mapusa is staging a play titled Lion King December 1, 2007 - Hanuman Hall, Mapusa to fundraise for a false ceiling for the school hall upgrading the school playground Headmistress Sr. Namika A.C. / Teacher Mrs. Sonia Noronha [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Rico, my dear greying (beardwise) boy, My usage, if, indeed I used, of elite is not bahmon/caste-wise. In this case it would depict, as the names tell, the brunt-bearers of the opinion poll/anti-merger war. So! There you are ... as they say in Prague our dear Selma's US of A Chachaa/chii/sheee or whatever!...I stink as gloriously as ever Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2007 11:55:55 +0530 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: goanet@lists.goanet.org Subject: Re: [Goanet] Channeachya raati Interesting! What was the definition of elite (read: upper caste) Goa then, and how did it differ from that of the bahujans? FN On 22/11/2007, Alfred de Tavares [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We were all gathered on our balcao: Shaker Bandhari, Hogo de Sousa, Erasmo,Aurobindo Martins dos Barros the lot. -- Frederick Noronha http://fn.goa-india.org Ph 0091-832-2409490 12000+ downloadable, sharable hi-res photos http://www.flickr.com/photos/fn-goa/ _ News, entertainment and everything you care about at Live.com. Get it now! http://www.live.com/getstarted.aspx
Re: [Goanet] DEVANAGARI LOBBY PROMOTES KONKNNI in Romanscript
--- http://www.GOANET.org --- St. Mary's Convent High school, Mapusa is staging a play titled Lion King December 1, 2007 - Hanuman Hall, Mapusa to fundraise for a false ceiling for the school hall upgrading the school playground Headmistress Sr. Namika A.C. / Teacher Mrs. Sonia Noronha [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Mogall Miguel bab, On Sun, 25 Nov 2007 you wrote: In Goa, Konkani is written in Roman script [most popular] and in Devanagri [official script]. Does Professor Sebastiao-bab recommend that we demand the REPLACEMENT by Roman script? My response: That, at least, would be a rational proposition. Sotachench zoit zatolem. Mog asum. Sebastian Borges On Sun, 25 Nov 2007 Miguel Braganza [EMAIL PROTECTED] had written: Dears, Incidentally, Konkani, Manipuri and Nepali were added together to the VIII Schedule of the Indian Constitution in 1992. In Goa, Konkani is written in Roman script [most popular] and in Devanagri [official script]. Does Professor Sebastiao-bab recommend that we demand the REPLACEMENT by Roman script? It would suit the majority of the readers and writers of Konkani fine . besides permitting those familiar with English to read [even if they did not understand]...which is not the case with Devanagri!Roman script would also make communication in Konkani easy via email [it is already in vogue even on Goanet] and to print in the official gazette. Mog asundi. Miguel Sebastian Borges Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs
[Goanet] What we feel about religion ( Who is WE?)
--- http://www.GOANET.org --- St. Mary's Convent High school, Mapusa is staging a play titled Lion King December 1, 2007 - Hanuman Hall, Mapusa to fundraise for a false ceiling for the school hall upgrading the school playground Headmistress Sr. Namika A.C. / Teacher Mrs. Sonia Noronha [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Those who write against are castigated and are treated as mentally retarded .The fact remains that the first and the last Christian died on the cross and unless and until a radical change comes around Christianity will die a natural death. Paul Mascarenhas = Here we another one and I thought Albert was bad enough. COME BACK ALBERT ALL IS FORGIVEN. ED - For ideas on reducing your carbon footprint visit Yahoo! For Good this month.
[Goanet] i-League : Churchill Brothers thrash Sporting Clube, Mahindra held
--- http://www.GOANET.org --- St. Mary's Convent High school, Mapusa is staging a play titled Lion King December 1, 2007 - Hanuman Hall, Mapusa to fundraise for a false ceiling for the school hall upgrading the school playground Headmistress Sr. Namika A.C. / Teacher Mrs. Sonia Noronha [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Churchill Brothers thrashed Sporting Clube de Goa by 3-0 margin in the ONGC I League match played today at Jawaharlal Nehru Stadium, Goa. Churchill opened the account with a beautiful goal from captain Odafe in 32' of the first half. Churchill scored the other goals through Mboyo Iyomi 66 and R. Vasum 90+ to collect the full points. In the other played today at Cooperage ground, Mumbai, Air India played 1-1 draw with Mahindra United. Air India took the lead in the first half of the match through Bashiru Abbas while star player Yusif Yakubu restored parity for Mahindra United in the second half. Borgee Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs
[Goanet] Talking Photos: OLD GOA
--- http://www.GOANET.org --- St. Mary's Convent High school, Mapusa is staging a play titled Lion King December 1, 2007 - Hanuman Hall, Mapusa to fundraise for a false ceiling for the school hall upgrading the school playground Headmistress Sr. Namika A.C. / Teacher Mrs. Sonia Noronha [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Talking Photos: OLD GOA http://www.flickr.com/photo_zoom.gne?id=2063741284size=l HW: See message within == from prev. year.. http://www.flickr.com/photo_zoom.gne?id=193348915size=o [EMAIL PROTECTED] for Goa NRI related info... http://in.groups.yahoo.com/group/GOAN-NRI/ For Goan Video Clips http://youtube.com/joeukgoa or http://is.rediff.com/profilevisitor.php?mem_id=48419 ___ Want ideas for reducing your carbon footprint? Visit Yahoo! For Good http://uk.promotions.yahoo.com/forgood/environment.html
[Goanet] Mining mess in east and west
--- http://www.GOANET.org --- St. Mary's Convent High school, Mapusa is staging a play titled Lion King December 1, 2007 - Hanuman Hall, Mapusa to fundraise for a false ceiling for the school hall upgrading the school playground Headmistress Sr. Namika A.C. / Teacher Mrs. Sonia Noronha [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- http://www.hindustantimes.com/StoryPage/StoryPage.aspx?id=3bbcca41-d1ae-4f8e-8e87-f54b2a1d725eMatchID1=4602TeamID1=6TeamID2=7MatchType1=1SeriesID1=1157PrimaryID=4602Headline=Goa+residents+protest+against+mining Mining mess in east and west KumKum Dasgupta, Hindustan Times Bicholim, November 26, 2007 First Published: 02:08 IST(26/11/2007) Last Updated: 02:11 IST(26/11/2007) Kalidas Umarye's house at Vathadev in Goa's Bicholim taluka is an ocean of tranquility. But there is tension simmering beneath: Umarye, an agriculturist, might lose his home and livelihood if a mining company has its way. How would you feel if the government asks you to leave your property and livelihood because the area is resource-rich? asks Pramod Umarye, his neighbour. Land here is being parceled out to mining companies without proper Environmental Impact Assessment (EIA) and forest clearance. And, most importantly, against the wishes of the local community. The ore you get here is of low grade. But because of demand from China, mining companies are scrambling to get contracts. The Chinese want this ore to blend it with better quality ones, says journalist Ashwin Tombat. But Goa's industrialists are not complaining. In the past six years, the state's mineral exports have increased 35 per cent to 23 million tonnes last year. The struggle in Bicholim started in December 2006 when villagers learnt that Panjim-based Zantye and Co Pvt Ltd would be given the lease for mining iron and manganese ore at Sarvona. In January, the Gram Sabha (Sarvona-Karapura panchayat) passed a resolution asking the government not to grant permission. If one goes by the Panchayati Raj Act, this decision should have been enough. But the government called a public hearing — a requirement under the EIA — on January 18. Residents allege the hearing was faulty because they were not given information on the project 30 days prior to the meeting and the company did not provide any disaster management plan. The second hearing was on March 24, when the residents said they were against the lease because mining would destroy their forests, natural water source and horticulture plantation. The company presented false information to get the lease. The Portuguese granted this mining concession in 1953 and it was operational till 1956. A mining lease lapses if it's not in operation for two years. To circumvent this, Zantye said mining was done between 2001-03. The Directorate of Mines and Geology fudged reports for them to show there was a production of 15 tonnes of manganese in this period. Through an RTI application, I have asked them for the pit numbers where mining was done. It's been four months, I am yet to get an answer, says schoolteacher Ramesh Gauns, spearheading the protest. Does this area look like there was mining in 2003? he asks, showing this correspondent the thick foliage in the proposed mining lease area. The Bicholim River meets the Mandovi downstream. The catchment area is rich in biodiversity. Mining activity will pollute the river and destroy 21 perennial wells. The Rapid Environmental Impact Assessment report, submitted by the mine owner, has not mentioned Vavati and Vathadeo villages, not even the Bicholim river. Plus, he concealed that this is a flood-prone area, said Gauns. The Ministry of Environment and Forests granted the company a go-ahead on August 20. Undaunted, the people have appealed to the ministry appellate.
[Goanet] Joe Colas plea for funds
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St. Mary's Convent High school, Mapusa is staging a play titled Lion King
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Dear joe
i am in full support of collecting funds for this worthwhile cause. Some
people llike you , Floriano and Rajan have been using their own resources
and it is not fair as it is not your private war you are fighting. Can i
suggest that you open an account in Goa with possibly Five signatories with
possible names of Floriano, Rajan, Sotor, Mathany and Yourself.{ it is my
suggestion only}
You can have a subcommittee to overlook the expenditure which can be
publicly accounted for. It is a matter of trust and i would not start
debating the integrity of people involved.
It is time for all goans, specially NRIS and NRGS, to forget their
political ideaologies. All of us will have some affiliations to one party or
the other which can be expressed during elections. But the time has come
now, to sink our diff.and stop ARGUING BICKERING and going on EGO TRIPS on
GOANET TO PROVE WHO IS MORE RIGHT,INTELLIGENT AND CLEVER THAN THE OTHER!
Can Cedrico, Selma, George and others organise their respective areas
please?
Besides money, we need media and support of Professionals.This govt. is
backed by money sharks and can buy and sell anybody. But they cannot buy our
Loyalty, Goodwill and Trust.
I will be looking forward to positive comments/ suggestions on the subject.
Time is running out.
Cheers
Nelson
Re: [Goanet] Channeachya raati
--- http://www.GOANET.org --- St. Mary's Convent High school, Mapusa is staging a play titled Lion King December 1, 2007 - Hanuman Hall, Mapusa to fundraise for a false ceiling for the school hall upgrading the school playground Headmistress Sr. Namika A.C. / Teacher Mrs. Sonia Noronha [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- But wasn't caste then (and now) one of the markers of self-defined elitism? Even if money is increasingly eating into such bias now more than ever? FN On 25/11/2007, Alfred de Tavares [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Rico, my dear greying (beardwise) boy, My usage, if, indeed I used, of elite is not bahmon/caste-wise. In this case it would depict, as the names tell, the brunt-bearers of the opinion poll/anti-merger war. So! There you are ... as they say in Prague our dear Selma's US of A Chachaa/chii/sheee or whatever!...I stink as gloriously as ever Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2007 11:55:55 +0530 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: goanet@lists.goanet.org Subject: Re: [Goanet] Channeachya raati Interesting! What was the definition of elite (read: upper caste) Goa then, and how did it differ from that of the bahujans? FN On 22/11/2007, Alfred de Tavares [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We were all gathered on our balcao: Shaker Bandhari, Hogo de Sousa, Erasmo,Aurobindo Martins dos Barros the lot -- Frederick Noronha http://fn.goa-india.org Ph 0091-832-2409490 12000+ downloadable, sharable hi-res photos http://www.flickr.com/photos/fn-goa/
[Goanet] Subject: Re: Dinesh D Souza in debate - Cornel/George/Gilbert
--- http://www.GOANET.org --- St. Mary's Convent High school, Mapusa is staging a play titled Lion King December 1, 2007 - Hanuman Hall, Mapusa to fundraise for a false ceiling for the school hall upgrading the school playground Headmistress Sr. Namika A.C. / Teacher Mrs. Sonia Noronha [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Date: Sat, 24 Nov 2007 11:30:20 -0800 (PST) From: George Pinto [EMAIL PROTECTED] Dear Gilbert Please refrain from ad hominem attacks (attacking people) on this forum. If you have no arguments and feel you have lost to Cornel's superior ideas, then gracefully admit you have lost yet another argument. If on the other hand you have LEGITIMATE arguments to make, please do so in a lucid manner (does anyone understand what the following means: Your anti-casteist stand puts you in a similar league/pathology as US Senator Larry Craig). Thank you in advance for trying to elevate the level of discussions and not making it personal. Mario adds: Yes, George, I understand very well what the comment means, and I'm sure everyone else who does will agree that it is probably the most gratuitously abhorrent and misguided comment I have ever heard from Gilbert on this or any other subject. I cannot comprehend Gilbert's continuing defense, now descending to a sewer level, of a diabolical caste system invented in India centuries ago by social elites to maintain a permanent social hierarchy based solely on the biological crapshoot of birth and in which individual character and achievements mean nothing. I find such a system to be offensive and demeaning and simply an abomination and have personally seen the unnecessary misery it can cause, as have all Goans and Indians in general. It is ironic that the system now beginning to slowly disappear, at least in urban India, is being maintained and defended by some in the diaspora, where some may have imposed these beliefs on their own children, but whose next generation will scoff at such a fossilized form of blatant discrimination. On the other hand, George, I also found your comments to be like a pot calling a kettle black, because you have obviously not followed your own advice to elevate the level of discussions when you wrote the following gratuitous posts that confused ridicule with debate: http://lists.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet-goanet.org/2007-November/065216.html http://lists.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet-goanet.org/2007-November/065217.html I found that you are also selective in your choice of whom to admonish for gratuitous and insulting personal comments by giving a pass to comments that are at least as offensive and added nothing to any discussion that was in progress when you failed to confront the following post by a poster who is probably your ideological ally, or perhaps because his/her target is an ideological adversary: http://lists.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet-goanet.org/2007-November/065182.html Did you really consider such a post part of civil discourse on Goanet, or anywhere else but a pre-pubescent convent school yard?
[Goanet] Child Abuse - the problems
--- http://www.GOANET.org --- St. Mary's Convent High school, Mapusa is staging a play titled Lion King December 1, 2007 - Hanuman Hall, Mapusa to fundraise for a false ceiling for the school hall upgrading the school playground Headmistress Sr. Namika A.C. / Teacher Mrs. Sonia Noronha [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Child Abuse There are atleast three facets to this sorry matter: 1. The plight of the child who (silently or otherwise) suffers the abuse. 2. The fate of the person who is falsely accused of abuse. 3. The quandary of those who have to make the decisions. It is my belief that those among us who are parents, teachers, brothers and sisters need to keep a close eye on our little ones. Those who suffer abuse - surely - carry the emotional load throughout their lives It is also important that we watch out for those who might make false accusations. Once an accusation is made - nobody will believe that the accused is innocent - Even if the court throws out the case. It is important to remember that there are some who will use the 'abuse' claim as an act of revenge. Specifically watch out for those who want to mess up the life of a former husband or wife and those who have failed to get a 'business contract' from the accused. For those among us who have to make certain decisions - there is NO room for error. If we are wrong, one of the parties gets hurt and hurt very badly. It is my submission that Cases should be reported and DNA samples should be obtained as soon as possible. Apart from that - there is unlimited scope for speculation and gossip. vide comment on: Goa Children's Act http://www.colaco.net/1/gca2003.htm jc
[Goanet] Disadvantages - SEZ
--- http://www.GOANET.org --- St. Mary's Convent High school, Mapusa is staging a play titled Lion King December 1, 2007 - Hanuman Hall, Mapusa to fundraise for a false ceiling for the school hall upgrading the school playground Headmistress Sr. Namika A.C. / Teacher Mrs. Sonia Noronha [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Although the SEZs are set up mainly to attract foreign investments and increase the exports, but the major portion of cake of economic benefits would not benefit the common people but a select few and mostly unscrupulous faction in the current ruling Congress party who are pro SEZ and are determined to go ahead with the proposed SEZ projects in conjunction with Real Estate Developers mafia both Goan and outsiders. It seems setting up of SEZs is imminent. Recently people had golden opportunity to express their opposition to Congress Government's proposal to set up SEZs during recently concluded South Goa parliamentary elections either by defeating the Congress candidate or abstaining from voting as a token for referendum against SEZs. There are n number of features from the SEZ act which will allow a platform for opportunity to politicians to manipulate the advantages in their favour for their own personal gains. We are certainly going to face uprooting of massive population from their agricultural lands from where they earn their livelihood or houses where they are staying for years for establishing large sized 'industries', infrastructure projects for SEZs once these Zones are notified in unison with the enforcement of the Land Acquisition Act. By this process land grabbing and displacement of land holders will be easier task for the Government to follow. Plundering of forest, water and other natural resources, handing over of the reigns of the economy to the MNCs and their Indian agents, massive devastation of Goan demography and the spectre of slavery are some of the most drastic consequences of these SEZs.. The implementation of the SEZ policy is going to create exclusive enclaves where no laws of the land that protects the rights of the citizens at large will be applicable, which indicates near total breach of our civil rights and sovereignty Employment : In the area of employment the disadvantage of SEZ is quite similar to the disadvantages of Reliance Industries entering retail business. New jobs are created, but for whom ? Goa does not have manpower which will fit in all type of technical jobs so SEZs will have to rely on migrant labourers. Secondly Companies would like to simply relocate to SEZ to take advantage of the tax concession's being offered. This will bring about a significant revenue loss to the government. This will result in a kind of 'disguised industry' just as 'disguised unemployment'. Conclusion: Finally I would like to point out that SEZ can become a dangerous tool in the hands of power hungry politicians who want to show how much investment the state has attracted in their term, and so many jobs have been created but it will not benefit the Aam Aadmi if the State leadership has no clear vision or strategy to move forward. Vinay
Re: [Goanet] Dinesh D Souza in debate - Santosh
--- http://www.GOANET.org --- St. Mary's Convent High school, Mapusa is staging a play titled Lion King December 1, 2007 - Hanuman Hall, Mapusa to fundraise for a false ceiling for the school hall upgrading the school playground Headmistress Sr. Namika A.C. / Teacher Mrs. Sonia Noronha [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- --- Gilbert Lawrence [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I have said in the past, your claim to fame on Goanet is, you are opposed to everything that anybody writes. And you know what I call that? :=)) I am glad that Gilbert stopped short of name-calling. I will ignore his habitual patronizing nonsense, wasteful innuendo and gratuitous advice, and just respond briefly to two marginally pertinent points. Perhaps in this thread you should clarify your thinking, Are humans BORN MORAL?. This could be a yes / no answer. The answer to the above question is a resounding Yes. Evidence shows that no newborn or infant has ever committed any immoral act. So as a supurlo Goenkar, I am not sure what exactly (science, philosophy or theology) you are willing to defend with evidence ... from ... at least 7 million years in OUR evolutionary history. Ghuspot murree? Even a child who attends a secular school today knows that we humans evolved from an ape-like ancestor. Chimpanzees and bonobos branched off from a common human-ape ancestor at around 7 million years ago. Hatred, compassion, altruism, reciprocity, and most other things that we regard as relevant to morality are seen in chimpanzees. Many of these features are seen in bonobos, and even gorillas and baboons. Please read Our Inner Ape by the renowned primatologist Frans de Waal for a beautiful popular discussion of this research. Can you clarify the animals of at least 7 million years ago had hatred and compassion (what ever that means) and how was that different from the behavior patterns of dinosaurs who existed 65 million years ago? We have only fossil record for dinosaurs. They have no direct living descendants. So nobody has been able to infer anything about their psychology. Are you using the terms Hatred and Compassion in animals interchangeably with human Morality and Ideology? Morality has a long evolutionary history. By contrast, ideology emerged only with the emergence of language and culture, which as far as we know are unique to modern humans, and perhaps to the Neanderthal men and women. Cheers, Santosh
[Goanet] Goa Sudharop: Eco clubs, essay contests
--- http://www.GOANET.org --- St. Mary's Convent High school, Mapusa is staging a play titled Lion King December 1, 2007 - Hanuman Hall, Mapusa to fundraise for a false ceiling for the school hall upgrading the school playground Headmistress Sr. Namika A.C. / Teacher Mrs. Sonia Noronha [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- In accordance with its 2007 YEAR OF THE ENVIRONMENT theme, Goa Sudharop Community Development Inc, USA, a non-profit volunteer, Goan diaspora NGO working for the betterment of Goa and Goans worldwide, wishes to invite higher secondary schools in Goa to participate in Eco Clubs competition and Essay competition, to promote environmental awareness, protection and conservation. For further information contact Ibonio D'Souza in Goa, Tel 832-2751002, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Goa Sudharop www.goasudharop.org
[Goanet] Protest rally against SEZ in Panjim, Nov 23- to venantius
--- http://www.GOANET.org --- St. Mary's Convent High school, Mapusa is staging a play titled Lion King December 1, 2007 - Hanuman Hall, Mapusa to fundraise for a false ceiling for the school hall upgrading the school playground Headmistress Sr. Namika A.C. / Teacher Mrs. Sonia Noronha [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Dear venantius: i had an inkling that the two groups owe alegiance in on eform or nother to the two majrpolitical dispenstations in goa.. arvind bhatikar and lok shakti and jagrut goem are well known congress proxies who under the guise of secularism are doing a wondefful job f brainwashing goans against the BJP regards b Get easy, one-click access to your favorites. Make Yahoo! your homepage. http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs
[Goanet] Rest In Piss, Anjuna
--- http://www.GOANET.org --- St. Mary's Convent High school, Mapusa is staging a play titled Lion King December 1, 2007 - Hanuman Hall, Mapusa to fundraise for a false ceiling for the school hall upgrading the school playground Headmistress Sr. Namika A.C. / Teacher Mrs. Sonia Noronha [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- To Goanet - Congratulations, dear Goans, on this sterling achievement. May the tribe of ghatis thrive prosper! http://www.parrikar.org/images/samples/anjuna-1.jpg http://www.parrikar.org/images/samples/anjuna-2.jpg Pictures taken by Sanjeev-bab Trivedi and posted with his permission. Warm regards, r
Re: [Goanet] Dinesh D Souza in debate - Cornel
--- http://www.GOANET.org --- St. Mary's Convent High school, Mapusa is staging a play titled Lion King December 1, 2007 - Hanuman Hall, Mapusa to fundraise for a false ceiling for the school hall upgrading the school playground Headmistress Sr. Namika A.C. / Teacher Mrs. Sonia Noronha [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Hi George, Thanks for your post. Perhaps you need to apply what you have written to yourself, which was further elucidated by Mario. You are right about my post to Cornel. I wrote it in a hurry since I did not want to waste time with his same old ... same old... . Yet after I posted it, I wished I expanded the basic issues. As a US resident you found the Senator Larry Craig reference confusing. So it is likely others (including Cornel) found it even more puzzling. Though, a web search on Senator Larry Craig would shed some light. Either way let me clarify, with some science, as this may be helpful to Goans. Cornel's obvious casteist attitudes (inflating his own resume by demeaning other Goans), and his repeated (self-plagiarized) anti-casteist rants does show hypocrisy. The important point, a psychiatrist friend told me during the Senator Craig episode, that this hypocrisy is a well-known psychological concept / disorder termed 'cognitive dissonance'. This is not my field. Below is from the web. I am posting the relevant part from a paper to demonstrate the science. Others can read the entire article and other related web articles including wikipedia. So back to Cornel, his anti-casteism writings may be a compensatory response to his personal obvious weakness of Casteism. The treatment for this, as per my psychiatrist friend, is psychological counseling. Perhaps Cornel should do that before he make an effort (himself) to write on his favorite topic. This advice is for his own benefit - and yes ours too. Thank you for giving me an opportunity to clarify. Finally let me repeat what you wrote for YOUR benefit, elevate the level of discussions and not making it personal. I hope you will practice what you preach. Kind Regards, GL The psychology and neuroscience of hypocrisy By Dov Michaeli MD, Ph.D What is important about this new research is showing the part of emotions in the overall mix of inputs into our decision-making. And this brings us to a potential explanation for what is called “cognitive dissonance”. What is meant by that is the nagging, and sometimes profound discomfort we feel when our behaviors don’t align with our beliefs. Our prefrontal cortex will keep nagging us, disturbing our peace of mind, interfere with our sleep, afflict us with unpleasant dreams—until we bring our behavior into alignment with our beliefs, which in reality are the products of the judgments made in the prefrontal cortex. I accept that if you say one thing and then do another, the cognitive dissonance you will suffer is a result of your weakness. But when you do one thing and then say another — this is no weakness, this is willful hypocrisy ... -- George Pinto Dear Gilbert ... If on the other hand you have LEGITIMATE arguments to make, please do so in a lucid manner (does anyone understand what the following means: Your anti-casteist stand puts you in a similar league/pathology as US Senator Larry Craig). Thank you in advance for trying to elevate the level of discussions and not making it personal. -- GL wrote: Hi Cornel, I would have thought you would know that I consider you the poster-boy for Goan casteism - inflating your own ego resume by demeaning other Goans. Your anti-casteist stand puts you in a similar league / pathology as US Senator Larry Craig. --- CORNEL DACOSTA I wish the casteists would just go away and leave Catholicism alone which they have polluted in Goa for centuries by their vile ideology. In turn, I am very critical of Catholicm in Goa that has been complicit in the evil of caste. Herein lies the dilemma to which I would value your rationale... I do hope desperately that, you may have an answer that is persuasive.
[Goanet] Ivana remains in contention with victory
--- http://www.GOANET.org --- St. Mary's Convent High school, Mapusa is staging a play titled Lion King December 1, 2007 - Hanuman Hall, Mapusa to fundraise for a false ceiling for the school hall upgrading the school playground Headmistress Sr. Namika A.C. / Teacher Mrs. Sonia Noronha [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Whereas Ivana Furtado continued her good run with a victory over her Turkish opponent, Bhakti Kulkarni's chances of a medal were eliminated in the eighth round of the World Youth Chess Championships being played at Antalya, Turkey. Commonwealth Under 18 Girls Champion Bhakti Kulkarni (ELO 2112) loss to Ukraine's Olga Ivanenko (ELO 2125) more or less puts her out of the race for the medals. To add to her troubles, she has got the 4th seed Jovana Vojinovic (ELO 2227) as her opponent in the 9th round. She could at best try to win her last three games and hope for a top 10 finish. Asian Under 8 Girls Champion Ivana Furtado beat Turkish girl Buse Vatansever in the 8th round to stay to within half a point of Vietnamese girl Thanh Thuy Tien Nguyen who leads the table with 7 points. Defending champ Ivana shares 2nd spot with 2 others and will meet the Vietnamese leader in a top of the table clash in the 8th round. To defend her World Under 8 title, Ivana will have to take full point from this crucial game. In other results, Maharashtra's Vidit Gujarathi (ELO 2315) defeated Russian International Master Sanan Sjugirov (ELO 2422) in a fine tactical encounter to grab the sole lead with 7 points in the Under 14 Boys section. Unfortunately, Harshal Shahi (ELO 1708) of New Delhi in the Under 8 Boys section and WIM Mary Ann Gomes (ELO 2262) of Kolkata in the Under 18 Girls section both lost so that India's medal chances overall are looking rather bleak at this point of time. Dronacharya awardee Raghunandan Gokhale, who is coaching both Ivana and Bhakti, stated that Ivana played excellently in the 8th round. He expressed satisfaction with the Catalan opening which Ivana used for the first time in her chess career but refused to reveal whether she will use it again during the course of this event! SOURCE: Sameer Salgaocar - President - GSCA
[Goanet] Goa news for November 26, 2007
--- http://www.GOANET.org --- St. Mary's Convent High school, Mapusa is staging a play titled Lion King December 1, 2007 - Hanuman Hall, Mapusa to fundraise for a false ceiling for the school hall upgrading the school playground Headmistress Sr. Namika A.C. / Teacher Mrs. Sonia Noronha [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Goa News from Google News and Goanet.org Visit http://www.goanet.org/newslinks.php for the full stories. *** Goa is best place for IFFI: Shekhar Kapoor, Ketan Mehta - Hindu [Nov 24, 2007] Panaji (PTI): Union Information and Broadcasting Minister PR Dasmunshi's announcement that Goa woul remain the permanent International Film Festival of ... http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=Tct=us/1-0fd=Rurl=http://www.hindu.com/thehindu/holnus/009200711241840.htmcid=1123924477ei=ihNKR8_IOJr2qgOb1pjiCw *** Goa governor escapes another attack on life - Times of India [Nov 24, 2007] KOHIMA/DIMAPUR: Goa Governor SC Jamir survived a bid on his life on Saturday when his convoy was attacked with IED blasts in Nagaland's Mokokchung district. ... http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=Tct=us/0-0fd=Rurl=http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/India/Goa_governor_escapes_another_attack_on_life/articleshow/2568298.cmscid=1124039730ei=ihNKR8_IOJr2qgOb1pjiCw *** Elizabeth director inspired by cockroaches tale - Reuters Canada [16 hours ago] By Tony Tharakan PANAJI, Goa (Reuters) - Switching from 16th century queens to tiny urban pests may be difficult for some filmmakers but not for Indian ... http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=Tct=us/5-0fd=Rurl=http://ca.today.reuters.com/news/newsArticle.aspx?type=entertainmentNewsstoryID=2007-11-25T073617Z_01_DEL175082_RTRIDST_0_ENTERTAINMENT-INDIA-DIRECTOR-COL.XMLcid=1124073197ei=ihNKR8_IOJr2qgOb1pjiCw *** Goa concede 182-run lead against Madhya Pradesh - Navhind Times [4 hours ago] Panaji, Nov 25 Medium-pacer Sanjay Pandeys six-wicket haul bowled Madhya Pradesh into a strong position as they restricted Goa to 293 in reply to the ... http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=Tct=us/4-0fd=Rurl=http://www.navhindtimes.com/articles.php?Story_ID=112625cid=1123960320ei=ihNKR8_IOJr2qgOb1pjiCw *** I-League Preview: Churchill Brothers v/s Sporting Club de Goa - Goal.com [19 hours ago] Sporting Club de Goa are still reeling from the jolt of Dudus departure in the summer. The team has been unlucky in the last two major tournaments were ... http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=Tct=us/2-0fd=Rurl=http://www.goal.com/en-india/Articolo.aspx?ContenutoId=492195cid=1124051386ei=ihNKR8_IOJr2qgOb1pjiCw *** Foreigners power Goas trophies - Herald Publications [20 hours ago] BY MARCUS MERGULHAO PANJIM, NOV 24 If the late Fred Pagasley first foreign footballer to play in India could read these figures about top-earning ... http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=Tct=us/9-0fd=Rurl=http://oheraldo.in/pagedetails.asp?nid=4678cid=2cid=0ei=ihNKR8_IOJr2qgOb1pjiCw *** potato-hunt in goa and other woes - Business Standard [Nov 23, 2007] what is it about me, goa and an insatiable craving for jacket potato? when does a jacket potato turn from plain-n-simple comfort food to food epiphany? in ... http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=Tct=us/8-0fd=Rurl=http://www.business-standard.com/common/storypage.php?autono=305267leftnm=5subLeft=0chkFlg=cid=0ei=ihNKR8_IOJr2qgOb1pjiCw *** Old Goa novenas begin - Navhind Times [21 hours ago] Panaji, Nov 24 The novenas of St Francis Xavier started today at the Basilica of Bom Jesus, Old Goa, leading to the feast on Monday, December 3, 2007. ... http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=Tct=us/7-0fd=Rurl=http://www.navhindtimes.com/articles.php?Story_ID=11251cid=0ei=ihNKR8_IOJr2qgOb1pjiCw *** Many Indian housemaids in Gulf in distress: Faleiro - Hindustan Times [2 hours ago] Indian housemaids and other domestic helps are working in often distressing conditions in West Asia, Commissioner for NRI Affairs (Goa) Eduardo Faleiro ... http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=Tct=us/6-0fd=Rurl=http://www.hindustantimes.com/Redir.aspx?ID=94e30d58-f743-4c5b-a078-590b0bc8a850ParentID=d2e8aa79-97fd-4326-8aac-46d25190ccd0cid=1124098662ei=ihNKR8_IOJr2qgOb1pjiCw *** Goa: A Mirage of Good Governance - Navhind Times [4 hours ago] by Nandkumar Kamat When was it that Goa had a semblance of good governance? When was it that the grievances of common people were handled at the lower level ... http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=Tct=us/3-0fd=Rurl=http://www.navhindtimes.com/articles.php?Story_ID=112617cid=0ei=ihNKR8_IOJr2qgOb1pjiCw Compiled by Goanet News Service http://www.goanet.org/newslinks.php
[Goanet] ALEXYZ Daily Cartoon (26NOV07)
--- http://www.GOANET.org --- St. Mary's Convent High school, Mapusa is staging a play titled Lion King December 1, 2007 - Hanuman Hall, Mapusa to fundraise for a false ceiling for the school hall upgrading the school playground Headmistress Sr. Namika A.C. / Teacher Mrs. Sonia Noronha [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Mr. John Abraham, your Role in GOAL will do more for Footbal than AIFF President (for years) Das Munshi... ...who should be given the BOOT! To enjoy the visual cartoon please visit: www.alexyztoons.com Site sponsored by www.goasudharop.org
[Goanet] In the name of God (monday-muse)
--- http://www.GOANET.org --- St. Mary's Convent High school, Mapusa is staging a play titled Lion King December 1, 2007 - Hanuman Hall, Mapusa to fundraise for a false ceiling for the school hall upgrading the school playground Headmistress Sr. Namika A.C. / Teacher Mrs. Sonia Noronha [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- MONDAY MUSE (26 Nov '07) IN THE NAME OF GOD Two films on the contemporary religious divide were screened at the International Film Festival of India, being held in Goa. The Urdu film, “Khuda kay liye” (in the name of God) tackles the contemporary subject of the inhuman acts done in the name of God. It is a story of the predicament of a modern liberal Pakistani family which bears the brunt of the communal dimensions of two different religions. The movie is about two musician brothers – one of who gets sucked into the regressive world of religious extremism; while the other is brutalised by the racial profiling in the USA. It also handles other issues like the theological issues, suppression of women and the cultural contextualization of Islam. The last scene has a liberal and a radical competing for the Azaan. The contest for who speaks for Islam has begun! The second film “Dharma” captures the use of religion to propagate hatred first within the Hindu community against the Dalits and eventually to unleash violence against the other religion. It is about a Pundit - a revered authority on the scriptures - who unwittingly adopts a Muslim baby, thinking him to be a Brahmin. When confronted with reality, he undergoes severe penance. But, he is liberated of his pain only when he finds that love for humanity is the real Dharma! And thus is born his courage to halt the violent rioters! But the main learning is about the way, various groups are propagating different versions of their religions and the politics of hate. We grow up to learn that the underlying principle of all religions is love for humanity. However, the fact remains that the overriding dimension of religion ranges from suspicion for the other faiths to a violent war with them. In the name of God, the most heinous of crimes are being wrought and justified. Religions speaking about brotherhood and love for mankind are at war with each other. It is not enough for a faith to be tolerant towards the other. We need to sift the grain (perception) from the chaff (prejudice) first in our own minds. The various dimensions of the philosophy of religions which clash with its practice need to be understood. The vengeful mask of religious identity can be allowed to mask our sense of perspective. In the name of mankind, we need to unlearn our prejudices and “develop new dimensions” of empathy, peace and social justice. In the name of God, hate propels inflammatory actions, In the name of mankind, let’s ‘develop new dimensions’! --- Pravin 26 November 2007, Goa. A life coach with a passion to connect people to their potential, Pravin Sabnis conducts unlearning unlimited workshops for leading corporate and other groups. The Monday Muse series (since 2004) is dedicated to the annual theme of JCI-India. Pravin K. Sabnis visit: www.unlearningunlimited .blogspot.com www.poems-pravinsabnis.blogspot.com www.monday-muse.blogspot.com Flying to Bangalore or Bhopal? Search for tickets at http://in.farechase.yahoo.com
[Goanet] Quincy Almeida wins Prize
--- http://www.GOANET.org --- St. Mary's Convent High school, Mapusa is staging a play titled Lion King December 1, 2007 - Hanuman Hall, Mapusa to fundraise for a false ceiling for the school hall upgrading the school playground Headmistress Sr. Namika A.C. / Teacher Mrs. Sonia Noronha [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- November 23, 2007 WATERLOO A Wilfrid Laurier University scientist who is working on physical exercise as an alternative to drug therapy for people with Parkinson's disease has won a prestigious John Charles Polanyi Prize. Quincy Almeida is one of five Ontario researchers whose achievements are being recognized this year, John Milloy, minister of training, colleges and universities, said in an announcement yesterday. These five individuals represent some of the best and brightest researchers in our province, Milloy said in a statement. The awards, valued at $20,000, are given to researchers in the early stages of their careers who plan to continue post-doctoral studies at an Ontario university. They're named after John Polanyi of the University of Toronto, who was awarded the 1986 Nobel Prize in chemistry. Almeida, director of the Movement Disorders Research and Rehabilitation Centre at WLU, said he considers the prize Ontario's equivalent of the Nobel Prize.He said his work is seeing remarkable results in a short period. We're getting very interesting results in terms of what needs to be the direction Canada and the world should take in developing rehabilitation for Parkinson's and lots of other movement disorders, Almeida, 34, said yesterday. Among his projects, Almeida launched a rehabilitation program last year for people with Parkinson's. The program was aimed at improving people's balance, gait and co-ordination so they can live more independently and actively. Almeida's goal is to establish exercise recommendations for Canadians who have Parkinson's disease. The program showed there are some exercises that will improve strength, and heart and blood pressure, but they do not change Parkinson's symptoms. Now Almeida is focusing on those exercises that actually show improvement of symptoms, such as balance loss, stiffness and slowness of movement. In the next phase of the study, patients will do those exercises over a 24-week period. Almeida has been travelling to national conferences in the last two weeks to show the results of his work. He is demonstrating a tool he has developed to evaluate changes in symptoms. The test battery will become an international standard and a better way of measuring change, he said. Laurier's Movement Disorders Research and Rehabilitation Centre was established in the former Northdale public school on Hickory Street in Waterloo. It's the first facility of its kind in Canada to focus on Parkinson's, which affects more than 100,000 Canadians. The centre also tests state-of-the-art tools and inventions from around the world to see what impact they have on patients' health. Other prize-winning researchers are from Carleton University, York University, University of Toronto and Queen's University. Be smarter than spam. See how smart SpamGuard is at giving junk email the boot with the All-new Yahoo! Mail. Click on Options in Mail and switch to New Mail today or register for free at http://mail.yahoo.ca
[Goanet] Of identities... on Goanet_Pan thukknara nahin chalel (of sizeable length)
--- http://www.GOANET.org --- St. Mary's Convent High school, Mapusa is staging a play titled Lion King December 1, 2007 - Hanuman Hall, Mapusa to fundraise for a false ceiling for the school hall upgrading the school playground Headmistress Sr. Namika A.C. / Teacher Mrs. Sonia Noronha [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Of identities... on Goanet, or Pan thukknara nahin chalel venantius j pinto Soon another year will be over, and things are moving fast. In Issue 641, Frederick Noronha had made a request Of Identities... on Goanet. Also since Deepavali, I believe some light has come into our lives, and certainly to Goanet -- its a bit peaceful. To me this has some significance, considering that my journey has been graced and blessed by understandings from various cultures. So am taking a moment to share the the broad threads which have shaped my hilarious existence. Perhaps, its also a bit pathetically tragic. If anything, I believe it is quite subtly Goan. The latter, I am sure is true of all of you on Goanet. Venantius J Pinto. Lived east of the tracks at BPT (Bombay Port Trust), Wadala, Mumbai. As Fr. Matthew Thalamany sdb, saw the kids from BPT Quarters -- we were the BaPti boys. Could have been worse, Bamti Boyz for instance. Father drove engines. As a child, that to me was as good as being a pilot. Later upon father's retirement moved to Chembur — still east of the tracks. MFA from Pratt Institute, Brooklyn, NY. Too many credits. Desired an MS, but got sick of the Visual Communication program, and moved into the fledgling Computer Graphics program. Earlier at JJ Institute of Applied Art, and Foundation Art at Sir JJ School of Art. Dropped out of Khalsa College due to a host of reasons. Botched up XII. Loved biology, the drawing part really, and the Botany lecturer -- a Punjabi orchid. Still like orchids. Can draw Guru Nanak blinfolded. I said this would be funny. Anyway, spent a year roaming around Mumbai; just roaming. It would have been different was I born a woman. Total disappointment to my parents. They did not deserve that. No parent does really. Lived with a Maharastrian family for almost five years. They were cool (friendly, funky, generous). The paterfamilias, Shri Ajgaonkar had an agitated, yet an appreciable concern towards me. Tai, as I addressed her because of the way things turned out in that family was a amazing woman, full of all the grand qualities we attribute to Goan women. I attended Aaji's cremation, since none of the four kinds were married, and we Christao's are not restricted by that stricture. At JJ Applied Art, rarely hesitated to question my instructors in decent (striving to the honorific) in Marathi, when I heard strange pronouncements in their pedagogy, and requested that we not discuss in English but in Marathi. It did not go well with them. After two State ranks ended up with a pass class in GD Art (Govt. Diploma). This meant that in spite of my having the second highest percentile in the country at the Entrance Exam for graduate (in India, post-graduate) admission to the Industrial Design Centre, Powai; I was not allowed to even attend the interview as a prospective student in Visual Communication at IDC, (Industrial Design Center) IIT Powai. It was a Tiwari, who could not even comprehend, mush less contemplate the thought, that although I did not have a First Class from JJ, that I had nailed the Entrance of his Institution; which was about aptitude and psychology, and other quasi-falutin stuff. I wonder how many Veds (vedas) he had/or since has read. Rules are rules -- that is cool, but at least develop social etiquette. And more so if one is teaching design. A exile of sorts was honourable, and so in the U.S.A. since Fall 87, after coming for graduate studies -- receiving help from a Goan family, who permitted me to stay independent intellectually. Some said that my Diploma assignment on Begging as a Social Evil looked horrible. I was specializing in Design for Social Issues, and still believe the subject did not demand a zari treatment! Others surmised—that I was paying the price for being outspoken, and having refused to display my work which incidentally was on Amnesty International at the yearly exhibition. I had designed posters in nine languages, among other design organs. Being outspoken worked well when the Institute needed some one to represent Maharashtra at the national seminar on designing stamps at the India Security Press Nashik in 1986. My friend, a student power broker said the Dean told him, Pan thukknara nahin chalel. Pintola pattavya. (We have no use for one who spits paan (effluents !!). Lets send Pinto) I too ate paan, just did not
Re: [Goanet] Dinesh D Souza in debate
--- http://www.GOANET.org --- St. Mary's Convent High school, Mapusa is staging a play titled Lion King December 1, 2007 - Hanuman Hall, Mapusa to fundraise for a false ceiling for the school hall upgrading the school playground Headmistress Sr. Namika A.C. / Teacher Mrs. Sonia Noronha [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Dear Gilbert, I have avoided getting embroiled in this debate but thought I would give you a YES/NO answer (before Bosco closes this thread) to your oft posed question below and the reason for it. YES, (a vast majority of) humans are born moral. Morality is a human construct and is based essentially on the instinctive emotion of empathy, which has been found to exist in many other species. A very small minority of people lack this emotion either from birth, because of brain injury or abnormal conditioning. This is something neither you nor Dinesh may be willing to acknowledge but the scientific investigation speaks for itself. Kevin = Date: Sat, 24 Nov 2007 22:51:55 -0800 From: Gilbert Lawrence [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Goanet] Dinesh D Souza in debate - Santosh Are humans BORN MORAL?. -- http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/id/
[Goanet] A story told in stone
--- http://www.GOANET.org --- St. Mary's Convent High school, Mapusa is staging a play titled Lion King December 1, 2007 - Hanuman Hall, Mapusa to fundraise for a false ceiling for the school hall upgrading the school playground Headmistress Sr. Namika A.C. / Teacher Mrs. Sonia Noronha [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- A story told in stone By Rohit Phalgaonkar During the course of my temple research, I came across the first ever recorded temple of Goa. It is Goa's only ancient monument with an epigraphical record naming the first king of the dynasty. Yes!! It is the temple of Shri Mahadev at Salaulim. The temple is located in picturesque surroundings on a plateau facing the huge Salaulim Dam Reservoir. The temple was originally located at Angod in Kurdi. It was then transplanted by the Archaeological Survey of India to the other side of the river because of the threat of being submerged under the Salaulim Dam waters. Each laterite stone of the temple was dismantled and was brought to the current site. The stones were reassembled again, to be present in their original structure. Why is this temple so important? The temple has witnessed the first Kadamb king of Goa who probably ordered the temple to be built. An inscription dating to 960AD was found near the doorjamb of the temple. The language of the inscription is Sanskrit and the script is the Nandi Nagari which is partly illegible today. It mentions the name of the founder of the Goa Kadamb dynasty, Shastha Deva I. He earned the titles like 'Raj Maharaj', 'Parmeshwar' which are legible on the inscription. He was also known as 'Kantakaachary'. This 10th century temple is entirely built of exposed laterite. It has typical Kadamb styled Shikhars along the periphery of its external. These are a common feature of Kadamb art. The small Sabhaamandap with an image of Nandi and Ganapati is adorned by two basalt stone pillars with beautiful mouldings. Other motifs like the female devotees, the Kirthimukh, etc. are seen on the entrance of the Garbgrih. Take a look at the temple ceiling and you will spot a stone 'Kamal' encompassed within rectangular squares. This was a typical feature of the Kadamb School of Art. According to Dr. V. T. Gune, the temple in Kurdi was located on the banks of a stream near a small rock cut cave. There was a flight of steps leading towards the stream. The temple of Shri Mahadev in Tambdi Surla and Shri Saptkoteshwar temple of Opa are also built on river banks. It seems that during the ancient times, river banks were chosen for construction of temples. So the next time when you visit the Salaulim Dam, do not forget to visit the first recorded temple of Goa. Goa Plus - Nov 23, 2007
[Goanet] DEVANAGARI LOBBY PROMOTES KONKNNI in Romanscript
--- http://www.GOANET.org --- St. Mary's Convent High school, Mapusa is staging a play titled Lion King December 1, 2007 - Hanuman Hall, Mapusa to fundraise for a false ceiling for the school hall upgrading the school playground Headmistress Sr. Namika A.C. / Teacher Mrs. Sonia Noronha [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Mogall Sebastiao-bab, If that be the case, what are we fighting for since 04 February, 1987? Let us melt our swords and make them into ploughshares ...and sow the seeds of Konkani in Roman script in our schools, colleges and Government departments so that they may bear a hundred fold !! Adv. Uday Bhembre, Pundalik Naik, Naguesh Karmali, Yusuf Shaikh, Tomazinho Cardoz, you, Michael Gracias and a whole lot of other Konkani writers are well versed in writing Konkani in Romi lipi. The text books can be rendered into Roman script overnight. If the Government and Goa Board decides by end of December, 2007, the Education Department can get textbooks ready by June, 2008. Let us TOGETHER demand that the relevant amendment to REPLACE the word Devanagri with the word Roman in the Official Language Act, 1987 during the winter session of the Goa Legislative Assembly. The draft amendment to ADD Roman script has already been submitted by Churchill Alemao, MLA of Navelim. All that the Legislature Department needs to do is to replace the word INSERT with the word REPLACE in the draft amendment bill and give it to the CM to move it in the Assembly this December. You lead the way through the KONKANI EKVOTT. There is no better way to bring about Ekvott and lots of votes for the ruling group, ably supported by Adv. Uday Bhembre-led Think Tank or Vichar Vibagh. We are with you ... all the way! Mog asundi. Miguel Date: Sun, 25 Nov 2007 03:42:39 -0800 (PST) From: Sebastian Borges [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Goanet] DEVANAGARI LOBBY PROMOTES KONKNNI in Romanscript Mogall Miguel bab, On Sun, 25 Nov 2007 you wrote: In Goa, Konkani is written in Roman script [most popular] and in Devanagri [official script]. Does Professor Sebastiao-bab recommend that we demand the REPLACEMENT by Roman script? My response: That, at least, would be a rational proposition. Sotachench zoit zatolem. Mog asum. Sebastian Borges On Sun, 25 Nov 2007 Miguel Braganza [EMAIL PROTECTED] had written: Dears, Incidentally, Konkani, Manipuri and Nepali were added together to the VIII Schedule of the Indian Constitution in 1992. In Goa, Konkani is written in Roman script [most popular] and in Devanagri [official script]. Does Professor Sebastiao-bab recommend that we demand the REPLACEMENT by Roman script? It would suit the majority of the readers and writers of Konkani fine. besides permitting those familiar with English to read [even if they did not understand]...which is not the case with Devanagri! Roman script would also make communication in Konkani easy via email [it isalready in vogue even on Goanet] and to print in the official gazette. Mog asundi. Miguel -- -.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-. Miguel Braganza, S1 Gracinda Apts, Rajvaddo, Mhapsa 403507 Goa Ph 9822982676 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.
Re: [Goanet] Dinesh D Souza in debate - Cornel
--- http://www.GOANET.org --- St. Mary's Convent High school, Mapusa is staging a play titled Lion King December 1, 2007 - Hanuman Hall, Mapusa to fundraise for a false ceiling for the school hall upgrading the school playground Headmistress Sr. Namika A.C. / Teacher Mrs. Sonia Noronha [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- --- http://www.GOANET.org --- St. Mary's Convent High school, Mapusa is staging a play titled Lion King December 1, 2007 - Hanuman Hall, Mapusa to fundraise for a false ceiling for the school hall upgrading the school playground Headmistress Sr. Namika A.C. / Teacher Mrs. Sonia Noronha [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- --- Gilbert Lawrence [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi George, You are right about my post to Cornel. I wrote it in a hurry since I did not want to waste time with his same old ... same old... . Yet after I posted it, I wished I expanded the basic issues. Either way let me clarify, with some science, as this may be helpful to Goans. Cornel's obvious casteist attitudes (inflating his own resume by demeaning other Goans), and his repeated (self-plagiarized) anti-casteist rants does show hypocrisy. Dear Gilbert, I am quite puzzled by your logic. In what way does inflating one's own resume make one a casteist? Also, how does inflating one's own resume demean other Goans? Or are you stating that Cornel mentioned other Goans in a demeaning manner in his resume? Can you quote chapter and verse? You further wrote: The important point, a psychiatrist friend told me during the Senator Craig episode, that this hypocrisy is a well-known psychological concept / disorder termed 'cognitive dissonance'. This is not my field. Below is from the web. I am posting the relevant part from a paper to demonstrate the science. Others can read the entire article and other related web articles including wikipedia. So back to Cornel, his anti-casteism writings may be a compensatory response to his personal obvious weakness of Casteism. The treatment for this, as per my psychiatrist friend, is psychological counseling. Perhaps Cornel should do that before he make an effort (himself) to write on his favorite topic. This advice is for his own benefit - and yes ours too. Thank you for giving me an opportunity to clarify. Dear Gilbert, Pleease explain what you mean by referring to Cornel's personal obvious weakness of Casteism. I do think you need to clarify that statement. Further, having admitted that you yourself are not a psychiatrist, and that psychiatry is not your field, you quote an article by one Dov Michaeli MD, Ph.D to support your claim that Cornel is a casteist and a hypocrite. But the article is not about Cornel, has no relevance to Cornel, and I doubt that the good Dr. Michaeli ever set eyes on Cornel. What do you think Dr. Michaeli's response would be if you wrote to him asking him to certify (via email, and without any personal contact) that Cornel had a well-known psychological concept / disorder termed 'cognitive dissonance', and asked him to recommend psychological counselling? As a medical practitioner yourself you know that he couldn't possibly agree to your request, now, could he? So what you have in fact given us is an example of irrelevant psychoanalysis via email - surely a first in medical history! I will make my own views on caste known in a separate post. Please line up the best psychiatrists you know, because you will need them to identify whatever cognitive dissonance I am suffering from. Very best personal regards, Victor Rangel-Ribeiro
Re: [Goanet] The Dichotomous Frida Kahlo
--- http://www.GOANET.org --- St. Mary's Convent High school, Mapusa is staging a play titled Lion King December 1, 2007 - Hanuman Hall, Mapusa to fundraise for a false ceiling for the school hall upgrading the school playground Headmistress Sr. Namika A.C. / Teacher Mrs. Sonia Noronha [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- One of the joys of living in Minneapolis, are the various art exhibitions the city hosts. This month, we have the works of Frida Kahlo. I've long been a devotee of Frida Kahlo, a fascination made all the more potent by Salma Hayek's portrayal of here in Frida. Frida's art holds much less fascination for me than her life. She was a woman who embraced her bisexuality, the duality of androgyny, the constant physical pain caused by an accident, and the emotional anguish of her husband's incessant infidelities. Wife to Diego Rivera, lover to Leon Trotsky and several other men and women, she was a paradox. Frida, however, appeals to me at a more personal level. Her struggle with her infertility lay heavy on her heart and seeped into the very fibre of her artistic expression. Her longing for life to consume her womb and life's utter betrayal became her central theme. Frida was also the product of a post-colonial era. She was of mixed parentage and in this respect life presented her with yet another paradox. The reconciliation of the influences of European colonialism with her fierce pride in being Mexican. In the painting The Two Fridas she explores this dichotomy, one Frida in a traditional Mexican dress and the other in a European dress. One Frida, adored by her husband, the other rejected. Like Frida, I grapple with a post-colonial influence all the more insulated by a life in diaspora, juxtaposed against my ethnicity. Frida, lived in restrictive times where culture was more definitive. As I grow older, I've found resolution in that cultures tend to be amorphous and whatever difference exist do so at the surface. Still, there are days when both East and West take me by total surprise. selma Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs
[Goanet] Hinduism is NOT based on caste
--- http://www.GOANET.org --- St. Mary's Convent High school, Mapusa is staging a play titled Lion King December 1, 2007 - Hanuman Hall, Mapusa to fundraise for a false ceiling for the school hall upgrading the school playground Headmistress Sr. Namika A.C. / Teacher Mrs. Sonia Noronha [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Fri Nov 23 20:26:21 PST 2007 From: Basilio Monteiro basilio.monteiro at gmail.com As much as caste is abhorrent to any sensible person, the recent crusades against it, for the most part, are based on misinformed understanding of religion, particularly of Hinduism. Mario clarifies: As a visceral and implacable participant in the crusades against this demeaning and destructive system that denies the basic and unique humanity in every individual, I don't believe I have ever insinuated that Hinduism is based on caste. The relevent fact is that the caste system, whatever its origins and rationale, has existed for thousands of years, is synonymous with Hinduism from where it infiltrated Christianity in India, and it is high time that people of good will rise up and stamp it out. The caste system has no other earthly reason than to discriminate, to deny individual character and achievement, permanently and without recourse. No more explanations, excuses, sophistry. We need ACTION, starting in our own homes
[Goanet] Growth Sans Industrialisation/to Bosco
--- http://www.GOANET.org --- St. Mary's Convent High school, Mapusa is staging a play titled Lion King December 1, 2007 - Hanuman Hall, Mapusa to fundraise for a false ceiling for the school hall upgrading the school playground Headmistress Sr. Namika A.C. / Teacher Mrs. Sonia Noronha [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Dear All: Selmas assertion that Choitram and Jumbo are the worst places t work is ridiculous..choitrams is a chain of sueprmarket while Jmbo is a consumer electronics chain owned by the late manu chabria... both these companies are nowhere conneted ( as far as i know) with the construction industry and are by no stretch of imagination the worst places to work for... selma is making things up once again as regards indian IT companies the IT professionals are paid a fair wage as per indian standrads..in fact better than indian standards...many IT professionas are in fact relocating becaue of the excellent compenstaion they receive... the original issue was selmas statements implying that the arabs are hard working and their propserity is the result of that hard work..these staements are bogus and were exposed as such.. in order to extricate herself from the mes selma now is trying to change goalposts by raising a different issue , that of exploitation of TCN workers.. i think the time has come for her to make yet one of those self righteous statements of indignation about how others are being insensitive , moral zeitgeist, small dreams, malthus, firedman and all and make another dramatic statement that she wants to take a break now and concentrate on her own personal writings:-) what a joke! Be a better pen pal. Text or chat with friends inside Yahoo! Mail. See how. http://overview.mail.yahoo.com/
[Goanet] Goa Government Rane exposed over SEZ
--- http://www.GOANET.org --- St. Mary's Convent High school, Mapusa is staging a play titled Lion King December 1, 2007 - Hanuman Hall, Mapusa to fundraise for a false ceiling for the school hall upgrading the school playground Headmistress Sr. Namika A.C. / Teacher Mrs. Sonia Noronha [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Goa Government has recommended to Central Government to allow Goa Agri Commerz Ltd. (GACL) to set up SEZ in Ambelim-Guleli-Sattari. This GACL's SEZ unit will deal with Gems and Jewellery over 52 Hectares! Their water and power requirements per day as well as their manpower requirement are also not quantified in their proposal. Owners of GACL have made a mention in their application that they are residing at the famous Kamat Kinar building where our minister Yuvraj is residing. They have mentioned their residential address as: UG 2 - 22, Kamat Kinara, Miramar, Panaji Goa. What is more surprising is that the partners of GACL are the same persons who had looted Goans for over 32 Crores in 1998 by starting a fake company in the name of Rock Land. GACL partners include Tarun Chawla, Arun Chawla, G. M. Chawla. Till today a criminal case is also going on against Rock Land in High Court. Knowing this very well, Goa Government is band on clearing GACL's proposed SEZ project. Can any one in the GoaNet predict what's cocking in this project? Best regards, Dr. U. G. Barad
Re: [Goanet] Growth Sans Industrialisation/to Bosco
--- http://www.GOANET.org --- St. Mary's Convent High school, Mapusa is staging a play titled Lion King December 1, 2007 - Hanuman Hall, Mapusa to fundraise for a false ceiling for the school hall upgrading the school playground Headmistress Sr. Namika A.C. / Teacher Mrs. Sonia Noronha [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- On Sat Nov 24 16:19:20 PST 2007, Carvalho wrote: I just wanted to correct a couple of misconceptions perpetuated by your post. RESPONSE: Thank you for your sermao on exploitation! In the process you successfully avoided the gist of my contention vis-a-vis yours - that Arabs enjoy one of the highest per capita incomes in the world because they lifted their hands and have transformed their city-states into world-class habitats. Furthermore you stated Perhaps we (Goans) should take a page from their (Arabs) books. I say NOT!! - Bosco
