[Goanet] CLEAR? - monday-muse (31mar08)

2008-03-30 Thread Pravin Sabnis

MONDAY MUSE (31 March 2008)

CLEAR?

An Italian priest, Fr. Gatti who taught me just for one year in school, was my 
guiding muse for over three more years. His influence on me has been a part of 
earlier posts of Monday Muse. His stories opened my thinking to see both the 
larger picture and the intricate detail. One such story literally cleared my 
vision.

A shopkeeper was forever disparaging of his competitors' storefront windows. 
"Just look at them”, he would say, “Surely, they are the dirtiest windows in 
town.". Everyone was tired of the man's continual criticism and fault-finding 
remarks about other peoples’ windows. 

However, one day over coffee, when the man carried the subject just too far, 
his smart customer suggested the man get his own windows cleaned. The 
shopkeeper followed the advice, and the next day at coffee, he exclaimed, "I 
can't believe it. As soon as I washed my windows, my competitor must have 
cleaned his too. His windows are clear and you can see them shine." 

It was all very clear. The problem was with HIS windows. Since they were dusty, 
the others appeared shabby, too. Too often we are seized with identifying 
drawbacks and weakness of others, but the reality remains that our own minds 
are in negative condition or conditioned negatively. So before we categorize 
others as worse, we must discover how we can BE BETTER ourselves. After all, 
Confucius once declared, "Don't complain about the snow on your neighbor's roof 
when your own doorstep is unclean." 

The singling out of the worst in others must go
Lets’ BE BETTER ourselves and may our actions show. 

regards
Pravin-da
31 March 2008, Goa, India.

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[Goanet] Goan author Tony D'Souza

2008-03-30 Thread Nicholas DSouza
Please see review of Tony D'Souza's latest book in the Washington Post which 
says: D'Souza treats his subjects with compassion
even as he recognizes their weaknesses. There is a kind of freshness and
bubbling wonder in this book, the sense of a writer genuinely searching for
answers, sidetracked occasionally but determined to complete his 
journey. http://www.arcamax.com/bookreviews/s-320502-250532


[Goanet] To all those before and after liberation

2008-03-30 Thread Bernado Colaco
This is from a rabid supporter of Portuguese colonial rule read below:

Some of the developers who had their stalls at the Times of
India show were Acron, Line Property Developers, Chowgule
Real Estate & Constructions, Integriti Real Estate
Developers, Nirvana Nest Buildcom, Jai Bhuvan Builders,
Rivera Construction, Tarika Lifestyle, Bullion Limited,
Expanse India Buildcon, Geo Realtors, Gold Touch Developers &
Promoters, Decolive Reality Developers, Le Gardenia, Akar
Creations, Property Management Group and Heritage Real Estate
Developers.
It was sad to see so many young Goans who were manning these
stalls selling potential buyers how 'easy' it is to get a
'home near the sea'. It was painful to see many of these
sales representatives and the developers themselves grossly
mispronouncing the names of almost all the places in Goa
where they had development plans.

Those reporters who write before liberation and after liberation atam kha 
ghantiam chi codi!

Visit Macau and come with those high priced rupees!

BC


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[Goanet] Be good citizens first (Devi Cherian, The Pioneer)

2008-03-30 Thread Goanet News
http://www.dailypioneer.com/columnist1.asp?main_variable=Columnist&file_name=cherian%2Fcherian223.txt&writer=cherian

 Be good citizens first


Goa is usually in the news for its lovely beaches, cuisine, Feny and
the film festival. This time unfortunately, it was the murder of
British teenager Scarlett Keeling, that brought this beach hub into
headlines. It would have gone down as yet another case of a foreigner
taking drugs had it not been for Fiona, Scarlett's mother who
highlighted the case.

The rape and then murder of 15-year-old Scarlett evoked sympathy and
shock. The cops finally cracked the case and now all the skeletons in
the cupboard are coming out.

The initial charge by Fiona against the police for not moving swiftly
was well taken. However, she went too far in blaming the entire police
department and the Government for what happened to Scarlett. The
coverage by the media also helped in giving an impression that the
entire Goan Government was to be blamed for the incident.

Is this the true picture? Scarlett was a drug addict, found in a
shack, drugged out of her senses at 3 am. The mother was away with her
other children, leaving Scarlett alone.

As a mother, I am shocked. Can you imagine an Indian mother leaving
her teenaged daughter with unknown people? In which part of the world
can a single woman go to an isolated place, in the wee hours? I
haven't heard of foreigners getting raped or pickpocketed in New York,
Atlanta or Chicago complaining against the US Government for what
happened to them. None of my women friends has ever tried to go alone
to lonely places abroad even in the so-called 'safe countries' like
England or the rest of Europe for that matter.

All those people who accused the Government for everything in the
world on TV channels should thank their stars that they are in a
country where the true spirit of democracy exists. I wish they tried
doing the same in countries like China or Pakistan. If they feel so
strongly against the Government why didn't they enforce their right to
vote. People who start chattering the moment they see a TV camera
can't even take out five minutes for exercising their vote!

And instead of blaming the Government for everything, let's blame
ourselves for the rot in the society. Let's blame the mother too. As
for the TV channels, TRP is all that matter. One expected that the
media would be objective instead of going on a tirade against
perceived enemies. I wish, it would ask the people to make Goa safe.
Do they want a cop for every tourist? Surely not. How about becoming
honest and sensitive towards our fellow beings? In short, how about
becoming good citizens?


Re: [Goanet] Goan Identity or Culture (GIC)

2008-03-30 Thread Carvalho
> 
> Antonio Menezes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>   The Goan identity or culture that some Goans are
> obsessed with could best
> be understood if we try to define it. 
---

Outside the borders of Goa, I have never come across
such wide discussions about identity. Why are Goans
obsessed with defining an identity or culture? The
only difference between us and the rest of India, is
our bi-cultural identity. We must embrace this
difference and move on from there. 

Cultures don't exist in a vacuum. They cannot be
guided in a certain direction or preserved as we wish
them to be. They are amorphous and constantly
evolving, a product of circumstance and prevailing
environment. When we talk about preserving culture,
what we are doing is refusing to grow as a community.
We can no more preserve "culture", then we can mold.

selma


  

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[Goanet] FW: Disturbing the waters.

2008-03-30 Thread Averthan D'Souza
 

 

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From: Averthan D'Souza [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 31 March 2008 10:56
To: Herald Goa ([EMAIL PROTECTED]); Gomantak Times ([EMAIL PROTECTED]);
Goan Observer
Cc: Goadesc
Subject: Disturbing the waters.

 

Dear Editor,

The news that the two members of the National Commission for
Women who descended on Goa have already jumped to conclusions about the
death of the British teenager Scarlet Keeling is very disturbing indeed.
In just two days flat, and after very perfunctory discussions, the two
ladies have concluded that the Goa Police have failed to perform their
duties satisfactorily.   To arrive at such a conclusion in less than
forty-eight hours  is truly amazing.   Is this the manner in which the NCW
conducts all its business?   What is even more horrifying is the revelation
in the Newspapers  that these two worthy ladies have now come up with their
(new)  "findings" that Scarlet Keeling was injected with Morphine.   How did
they arrive at this finding?   Will they produce irrefutable evidence of
this for judicial scrutiny?   Did they submit this finding to the Goa Police
for further examination?   Did they conduct a medical/forensic examination
of the remains of Scarlet Keeling, and was this further "post mortem"
examination done with proper authorization?   The public has a right to know
the basis for their assertion that Scarlet was injected with morphine.

The National Commission for Women is a statutory body set up by
Parliament.  It is expected to perform like a quasi-judicial body.  However,
the reports in the media indicate that the two members of the NCW have
behaved like partisans who came with prejudiced minds to make a political
point about the death of the unfortunate teenager.   The public assertion by
one member that she and "all women" are with Fiona MacKeown in her struggle
with the Goa Police, and that she will release her findings to the national
- and the international - media after returning to Delhi,  makes a complete
mockery of the cautious approach which is expected of a quasi-judicial body.
She sounded more like a woman activist rather than a member of a Commission.

We do not hold a brief for the Goa Police, but we certainly
object to persons coming into Goa and arriving at "decisions" within
forty-eight hours  after the most cursory (and casual) examination of the
case of Scarlet Keeling.   The National Commission for Women deserves to be
more circumspect  in the procedures which it follows and the manner in which
it intervenes in suspiciously criminal proceedings in a State.  

 

Yours truly,

Averthanus L. D'Souza,

D-13, La Marvel Colony,

Dona Paula, Goa 403 004.

 

Tel: 2453628. 



Re: [Goanet] Hinduism and Henotheism

2008-03-30 Thread Fr. Ivo da C. Souza

From: "Gilbert Lawrence" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

> I am attaching a link below on some self-study of mine about migration
> patterns of world population.

I found interesting papers including the following. This paper appears to be
a collaboration of / linking together
of religion and science.   We need more of these references and such
dialogue. The author in using gene studies and
describes a "genetic Adam" and a "genetic Eve".  The web paper is as recent
as 18 months.

http://www.duerinck.com/migrate.html
A KEVIN DUERINCK - GENETIC MIGRATIONS PAGE
GENETICS AND HUMAN MIGRATION PATTERNS
(GENETIC ANTHROPOLOGY)
[Last revised December 9, 2006]

***Any study on the origins of humankind is
interesting for all of us, scientists and theologians.
There is no conflict between what the book of Genesis intends to teach and
what the scientists are trying to discover.
The paper takes the biblical names of Adam and Eve from the book of Genesis.
Adam (means man or humankind, from the
Hebrew word adamah, 'red clay', for man is made of red clay according to the
popular, pre-scientific mentality). It speaks of the first parents.
The creation account in Gn 1:1-2:4a and 2:4b-25 teaches that the Universe
comes from God's powerful word. It differs from modern scientific 
conceptions, which typically focus
on the formation of the planet and its solar system, and leave out of 
consideration animate life and human culture.
Ancient Near East cosmogonies, on the contrary, are mainly interested in the 
emergence of a people,
whereas nature is only the environment for the human community.  Gn 1:1-2:4a 
stays within the categories
of the "science" of its time and attempts to see in those categories divine 
power and purpose, and the unique place of humans.

It does not contradict the scientific evolution. It is up to the scientists
to evolve further the theory of evolution with factual data
Regards.
Fr.Ivo




Re: [Goanet] Hinduism and Henotheism

2008-03-30 Thread Santosh Helekar
--- Gilbert Lawrence <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>  
> A physician supposedly cannot talk about sociology
> or history. But the person with that view, can 
> authoritatively opine on these two topics, ani thea
> bhair, religion, anthropology, genetics, cancer,
> migration patterns, etc none of which are related to
> his professed field. Granted  his  instantaneous
> expertise is obtained by net-surfing. 
>

I was hoping that I had seen the last of Gilbert's
indecent intervention in this thread. Alas, I was
wrong. In the above excerpt he is misstating what I
said in addition to besmirching me one more time. The
last couple of times he used foul language to do the
latter.

To set the record straight, I said that a medic was
free to write about sociology or history just as a
priest is free to write about science. 

But since Gilbert has taken the trouble to demean me
again in this public forum, I would appreciate it if
he does the following:

1. Kindly tells me how he (Gilbert) knows that
anthropology, genetics and migration patterns are not
related to my field.

2. Kindly tells me how he knows that my knowledge in
these areas and in religion and cancer comes only from
net-surfing.

3. Kindly tells me which of these areas, including
history and sociology falls within his field of
expertise.

4. Kindly sends me a copy of his book "Amchi Khobor",
so I can also be an instant expert on Goan culture and
history, and history of languages, Konkani, etc. by
reading material that has not been obtained by
net-surfing. I will pay for it.

Cheers,

Santosh


Re: [Goanet] indian vs goan

2008-03-30 Thread Pandu Lampiao
Were there two conventions held in Goa...I ain't sure. But at one of
them, the closing-evening speaker was Keith Vaz (Zulema d'Souza of
Toronto was involved in this one). Senor Vaz spoke around 4:30/5:00 at
the Kala Academy, and his talk was not terribly stirringyou may
have taken a feni-induced siesta Eugene and missed it!

As for the question of identity: that is exactly my point- the folks
discussing goan identity ...perhaps they did not the appropriate
bunch. One has to be an observer of Goan life, and understand what
ails us, our problems, our past and perhaps have some ideas and
insights on our future as a people with a common background. This can
be an endless and pointless discussion ofcourse and names of  all
those professors mean squat! We have a bunch of thinkers and
accomplished leaders (damm, not politicians) who should throw in their
opinions: Charles Correa, the da Chunha brothers, Mangeshkar sisters,
Kishori Amonkar, the tiatrists and the naatok-writers, Ulaas Buiao,
Uday Bhembre, Lucio Miranda, Remo, Manohar Sardesai (his piece on
naagdo petaro announcing the arrival of the hippies on Akashwani
Poonji plays its self over and over in my minds ear...)! Not to
suggest celebrities are better thinkers then the rest; folks on top of
their game, accomplished, leaders. The only politician I would include
is Mathany Saldhana, truly grounded, truly involved in the Goan
problem.

That said, Concani is the soul of Goan being, it reflects our outlook
to life, our attitude to the world around us, reflects our being, who
we are. Its our joy and it sounds beautiful to boot. Yes, I understand
everyone speaks English in Goan homes these days, its in vogue. Visit
a Gujrathi home, in Goa, London, in Johannesburg and the first
language the off-spring speak is Gujrati, no questions asked. And how
can you possibly understand and define oneself when one cannot speak
ones mother tongue, the very thing that places us culturally,
socially? I may be wrong in my assessment but lets hear some other
opinions.

Humanity of munispon is a trait and not defining as ones
identity.it deals with character and I do not see any
'munispon' in most Goans today; maybe 20 years ago.

Goan culture as we know it is on the wane and was for a long time (one
of the few who often spoke about this was Mario Miranda in the late
80s) and perhaps loosing our language is a sign. I mean, nothing wrong
speaking Inglees and even Inglees with an accent but not speaking ones
mother-tounge maybe fine and stylish momentarily but in the long run,
I am sure it haunts one..where do I come from, where do I
stand, who am I? Ones mother-tounge attaches one to ones roots. These
are questions that bug the mind. Speaking to younger Goans who are
born and raised elsewhere...this is evident (I am talking of younger
folks who are grounded) and these questions bug them. The mind is a
strange. Maybe I yam just dreaming in Concani.

On Sat, Mar 29, 2008 at 7:56 AM, Eugene Correia <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Pandu Lampiao is sadly mistaken to say that Keith Vaz
>  was the star attraction of the Goan convention in
>  1988. Keith was not even there.


Re: [Goanet] Rabid supporter of current colonial regime

2008-03-30 Thread Jason Monserrate
Roland,

Portugal has plenty of sand. All supporters of the
current colonial regime are heading there. You wanna
join??

Jason 
Mera Bharat Mahaan


--- Bernado Colaco <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> RF,
> 
> You are rabid supporter of the current colonial
> regime imposed upon Goans since 61 and a few
> reporters who ply their trade on Goanet. In a while
> there will be no sand on  Goan beaches where you can
> bury your head. It is believed that there is rampant
> excavation for the bharat glass industry. 
> 
> Regards
> 
> BC
> 
> 
>  
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[Goanet] IDENTIFICATIONS

2008-03-30 Thread Swastik
1)Does anyone know that after how much duration does the CRC sents
intimation for identification to Portuguese consulate (i.e From the
date the documents are submitted and process number being received).

2)After the intimation is being sent to the consulate the date of
identification is being decided by CRC or the consulate?

3) Does the copy of intimation sent to the consulate also posted to
the applicant address.

4) How can one expedite the date of identification and does CRC
co-ordinate & reply to the queries pertaining to identification's.

Shashi.


[Goanet] Contacto Goa is back!

2008-03-30 Thread Communicare Trust

Contacto Goa is back!

The popular Goa edition of the Contacto magazine programme on the Portuguese 
language channel RTP International was launched in January 2006, and ran for 
a very successful first cycle of thirteen episodes.


The first series set out to explore the fascinating legacy that the 
Portuguese have left behind in Goa and other parts of India where they once 
had a presence, such as Mumbai, Daman and Diu.


A variety of people, institutions and events, who continue to sustain ties 
between the two nations, were featured in the course of the series.
The successful response to the first series by RTP-I's viewers has inspired 
the channel to launch a second round and now a third round of the Contacto 
Goa programme.


The first episode of this new series will be telecast on April 1st  2008 (it's 
true)  at 1pm Indian time and 8:30am Lisbon time on RTP-Internacional  . 
There will also be a repetition telecast  at 1:15am Indian time and 8:45pm 
Lisbon time and 5:30am indian time and 1:00am Lisbon time. Viewers in Europe 
and Africa who receive the channel RTP-Africa will also be able to watch the 
episode on this channel. It will be telecast on the same day  at 9:00am 
Lisbon time.


This episode will focus on a very enterprising family - the Timblo family 
connected to the mine business as well as tourism for more than 2 decades.
We will also talk about 3 grand celebrations that this year happened almost 
at the same time: Id (muslim celebration), Holi (Hindu festival) and Easter 
(resurrection of Christ).


Please note that the above timings are approximately only, based on the 
information available on the RTP web site at the time of sending out this 
release. We suggest that viewers reconfirm exact timings by checking the 
website www.rtp.pt on the actual day of telecast. We also advise viewers to 
switch on the channel a few minutes in advance, as occasionally the telecast 
has been found to begin before the schedule time.


The 2008 Contacto Goa series is produced by a local team , consisting of 
Nalini Elvino de Sousa and Jude Fernandes with sound and image by Francisco 
Machado.


Further episodes of the third series of Contacto Goa will continue to be 
telecast every 15 days, on Tuesdays at the same timings as given above.


The team can be contacted by e-mail at [EMAIL PROTECTED] or 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 



[Goanet] Postings on Goanet

2008-03-30 Thread Nicholas DSouza
I am grateful to Senhor Govio for drawing my attention to the Rules and 
Guideline for posts on Goanet. I apologise to Goanet for a minor infringement 
of Rule 3 which says: If you're quoting an earlier post, quote the minimum. It 
was inadvertent and only meant to put the whole issue in context. I hope others 
too will take heed of the rules and guidelines, one of which (item b) reads: 
Keep your message brief. In fact, Rule 10 of Goanet Rules says: “When a topic 
goes on endlessly in circles …the Admin Team will be empowered to declare 
that discussion "closed."“ I do not see anything in the rules to support the 
Senhor’s contention that “those who choose to be verbose have that 
right….” Nor will I ask for concrete instances of the Senhor’s mention of 
“patriots (who) have given their lives for the right of others to be 
verbose” Goanet is indeed not a newspaper but rather an extended form of the 
Letters to the Editor in any newspaper. The latter have strict rules
  for length and preciseness of letters sent. And so does Goanet. 
(Seehttp://lists.whatwg.org/pipermail/goanet-goanet.org/2005-February/024386.html) 
 Finally, brevity, they say, is the soul of wit – and of wisdom. If others 
believe verbosity is, they may do so. And if the Moderators of Goanet share the 
latter sentiment, I would withdraw from this Forum before other participants 
decide to post 20 or more page comments. I joined this forum to have a 
meaningful discussion on issues related to Goa and possible solutions to its 
problems. Brevity – not verbosity - will ensure more variety and will 
strengthen this forum.Nicholas D’Souza  
Re:
Date: Fri, 28 Mar 2008 From: Mario Goveia <Just as in a real forum, one 
is free to participate in or ignore a discussion or thread, move on to another, 
or return to whatever else they need to do.   One is free to express 
opinions, such as a request for brevity, and some may agree and others may not. 
 Those who choose to be verbose have that right under the rules of freedom 
of speech.  No one is forced to do anything they don't want to.  In 
free societies patriots have given their lives for the right of others to be 
verbose if they choose to. 


[Goanet] My take on Goa and Goan identity [ Starting points ]

2008-03-30 Thread anand virgincar

 
   Dear Goanetters,
 
   I am going to venture into some pretty dangerous territory here.
 
   What follows is entirely my opinion. It is not meant as a criticism
   of any individual or community. In fact , many of the points I will
   make are critical of myself , my religion / caste and the views that
   I have expressed on Goanet over the last few weeks.
   While I am trying to be unbiased in what I say , some of the issues
   I raise may well be tempered by the strong political and other views
   I hold. Also , I am far from all- knowing and there may well be many
   factual inaccuracies in my observations.All constuctive criticism is
   welcome. Rheotorical opposition based on bigotted thinking not so.
 
   There has been increasing volume of debate on this forum on how
   Goa is going to the dogs and how to prevent it. Also, there has 
   been much talk about preserving Goan identity.
   Before we try to even attempt the above , I sincerely feel we need
   to do 2 things.
   1 ) Stop being in denial about some harsh realities which apply to
   every one of us ( including myself )
   2 ) Forget the past ( however painful it may have been ) , analyse 
   the present ( however complicated it may be ) and plan for the future.
 
   And to do all this , we need a starting point to calculate what is the 
   past and what is the present.
 
   I suggest we keep the starting point as 1961 ( simply because we
   had charge of our destinies from that point ) and analyse things from
   then on.We keep the period from 1961 to date for analysis. And plan
   for the future from now on.
 
   And the absolutely central point to my arguments that follow is :
   FORGET WHAT HAPPENED IN GOA PRIOR TO 1961.
 
   Which means :
   # Let us forget the inquisition and all other wrongdoings , some true,
   others fabricated , that the Portuguese colonial rulers were involved
   in. We cannot reverse them.And what is the point of harping on what
   happened many hundred years back.
   # Let us forget about the religious conversions ,some forced , others
   voluntary.We cannot ( and should not ) change what happened many
   hundred years back.
   
   We should , however , remember one fact.
   IF IT WAS NOT FOR THE ACCIDENT OF HISTORY THAT GOA WAS 
   RULED BY THE PORTUGUESE ( UNLIKE MOST OF INDIA WHICH WAS
   BRITISH ) and IF NOT FOR THE ROMAN CATHOLIC CULTURE WHICH
   WAS AN INTEGRAL PART OF GOA BY 1961 ( AND ALONG WITH THE
   WELL PRESERVED HINDU CULTURE MADE FOR A UNIQUE RECIPE ) ,
   GOA TODAY WOULD BE NO DIFFERENT FROM THE CHARACTERLESS
   SOUTHERN MAHARASHTRA OR NORTHERN KARNATAKA COASTAL
   AREAS WHICH HAVE SIMILAR GEOPHYSICAL PARAMETERS AND ARE
   NO LESS IN SCENIC BEAUTY THAN OUR GOA.
 
   Let us all ( espescially the Hindutva proponents in Goa ) accept that
   indisputable fact. Only then, can we move on.
 
   ...to be continued.
 
   warm and sincere regards,
   anand
 
 
   
 
   
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[Goanet] WHO ARE THESE GOANS IN - UAE receiving Leadership Awards?

2008-03-30 Thread Anthony C. L. Fernandes
Who are these so called Goans in UAE, most of us never heard of them or know 
them?


Will someone enlighten us about them and what contributions they have made 
towards Goans?


Thanks
Tony Fernandes
Dubai, UAE


On Mon, Mar 31, 2008 at 1:16 AM, gaspersWorld wrote:


In a brief function 'CONFERENCE ON INDIAN EXPARTRIATES IN THE GULF COUNTRIES
held at the Convention Hall, Hotel Mandovi, Panaji on 29th March 2008, the
NRI Affairs Directorate of Goa Government presented Leadership Awards for
community service to well known Goans from the Gulf for recognition of their
social activities towards the Indian community.

The honored recipients:

UAE: Mr. Ramnath Arjuna Mavlingcar
Dubai: Mr Rockson Rufus Rodrigues



[Goanet] Rabid supporter of current colonial regime

2008-03-30 Thread Bernado Colaco
RF,

You are rabid supporter of the current colonial regime imposed upon Goans since 
61 and a few reporters who ply their trade on Goanet. In a while there will be 
no sand on  Goan beaches where you can bury your head. It is believed that 
there is rampant excavation for the bharat glass industry. 

Regards

BC


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Re: [Goanet] Goa news for March 28, 2008

2008-03-30 Thread Rajan P. Parrikar
To Goanet -

Sanjeev Sardesai wrote:
>Talk, talk & more talk - leads us no where. Please build a 
>platform, with us alongside you (not behind you)...

Let me clarify this so that Amol can better serve you.  You 
are asking Amol to roll up his sleeves and get cracking.
After he has finished building the platform, Your Lordship
will come and stand alongside him (not behind him).  
Would you like a VVIP badge, too?  Should he arrange 
for some refreshments?  Diet Coke or Sprite?  Or perhaps 
Dr Pepper?

Regards,


r




[Goanet] CNN-IBN program on airports

2008-03-30 Thread Philip Thomas

http://www.ibnlive.com/news/aero-dynamics-nation-wants-multiple-airports/622
60/comments.html

Goa may have the same problem with Dabolim and Mopa unless the people are
vigilant and take steps to shape the direction in which things move. Btw, I
had mentioned previously that Hyderabad Begumpet's IATA code HYD was
transferred to the new airport at Shamshabad. What would happen when Mopa is
built? Would Dabolim's code GOI be transferred to it (Mopa)? More
intriguingly, what if Goa agreed to have the airport in Sindhudurg instead
of Mopa? Would GOI be allotted to the Maharashrta airport? Worth pondering,
right? Dabolim civil enclave must never close and Mopa/Sindhudurg must get
their own IATA code!



Re: [Goanet] Goans in the Middle East in pain !

2008-03-30 Thread Gabe Menezes
On 30/03/2008, Mario Goveia <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On 29/03/2008, Mario Goveia <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


>  Mario responds:
>  >
>  Yes, really.  It is you who are being disingenuous by citing an exception 
> rather than the rule.  Either that or you are unfamiliar with the extent to 
> which US assets of all kinds are owned by non-US investors, something that is 
> common knowledge around the world.

RESPONSE: You have not even finished reading the post in its entirety,
else you would have noted the Chinese failure in acquiringthe post
was not about an exception but two in less than two years and ones
that really mattered !

Since you need to be spoon fed here it is...

excerpt:

The collapse of the deal is the second time in less than a year in
which a foreign acquisition raised protests about the economic
security of the United States. Cnooc, a Chinese government-owned oil
company, dropped a bid to buy Unocal in July, after it was clear that
opposition would run high. Chevron took over the company instead, for
$18 billion.

Ends.

Have you no shame, no self respect to go on pandering falsehoods on this forum ?

The U.S. Govt only wants foreign entities, including Sovereign Wealth
Funds, to buy T Bills and to bail out doggy US financial institutions.

I have no issues with the US Govt policy, neither should you but to
blatantly and falsely give readers the impression that the US is an
open market is sheer balderdash.
-- 
DEV BOREM KORUM.

Gabe Menezes.
London, England


Re: [Goanet] Goa at Crossroads - A Corrigendum

2008-03-30 Thread floriano goasuraj
I have talked to Dr. Kinnerkar over the phone a minute ago, mainly to 
congratulate him on the above well presente  write-up. When confirmation was 
sought over the delay in publishing the said article by NT as reported by us, 
Dr. Kinnerkar has gone on record that the article, though it was written one 
and a half year ago, was not presented to any newspapers for its publication or 
rather it was the  hesitantion to present it for publication lest it may be 
rejected as too critical of the government of the day. 

I, on behalf of the Goa Su-Raj Party, apologize  for the mis-understanding and 
subsequent erroneous  reporting.

The same error stands corrected.

floriano 
goasuraj 

Dr. Kinnerkar is available on (0832) 2462083  e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]


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[Goanet] Goa for Sale

2008-03-30 Thread Barros-Pereira Joao

True and sad.
We Goans need to do something as our government cannot lead but only 
follow half-heartedly.
For a start, we can seek to ban any building higher than a coconut tree 
as they do in Bali if our villages are going to remain villages. Here's 
one idea ... People make your suggestions known clearly and 
repeatedly  Yes, there is hope yet if we act decisively and unitedly!




Re: [Goanet] Goan Identity or Culture (GIC)

2008-03-30 Thread CORNEL DACOSTA
Hi Antonio
  I humbly suggest that the problem with Gilbert Lawrence's posts re Goan 
identity is his highly simplistic assumption that everyone once knew his/her 
hierarchical place in Goan (presumably Christian) society and that this should 
be embedded and continued. With much respect, this is an utter figment of the  
imagination. There has always been resistance to whatever prevailing status quo 
has been around, especially when underpinned by things like injustice, force, 
and bogus rationales for a hierarchy based on an accident of birth epitomised 
by the rotten underbelly of caste. How, I ask, is it possible for one to be so 
unfamiliar and blinkered about  Goa's social and political history to believe 
the parochial notion that "everyone knew their place in society", when clearly, 
the literature on this issue indicates considerable social volatility in 
thought and deed throughout Goan history. This is the reality of Goan history 
and I therefore respectfully invite friend Gilbert to
 counter this view with evidence.
   
  Today's societies are remarkably fluid rather than static and surely, only an 
utter traditionalist, conservative and reactionary would want to argue for the 
continuation of "our legacy" which is code for a society based on caste and 
endogamy in an increasingly wonderful open world society of which we are heirs 
thankfully, and our young are seemingly integrating into enthusiastically.
  Cornel DaCosta  

Antonio Menezes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
  The Goan identity or culture that some Goans are obsessed with could best
be understood if we try to define it. And definition of Gic is definitely
not an easy proposition.
However, a beginning can be made if we place a few facts before us.
Gic as we know it today did not exist before 1510 and after 1961 it appears
to be withering away...
At this point, let me state that a vast majority of Goan Catholics, whether
in Goa, India and overseas are least bothered about the withering away of
Gic.





[Goanet] Student keeps date with Earth Hour, forms youth environment organisation in Goa.

2008-03-30 Thread Goa Desc
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Do GOACAN a favour, circulate this email to your family members,
relatives, neighbours and friends. Help others be BETTER INFORMED
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Documented by Goa Desc Resource Centre (GDRC)
Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Student keeps date with Earth Hour
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Earth Hour (8 pm to 9 pm) may have gone unobserved in
many parts of the State on Saturday, but not for Aaron Pereira,
a first year BA student residing at Fontainhas in Panjim.

Aaron was kept busy for most part of the day sending e-mails
and contacting friends to make them aware of the important hour
when lights would be switched off in an effort to raise awareness
about global warming.

The student and nature enthusiast said a few people in Panjim
did keep a date with the crucial hour, which is being observed
from last year and finds its genesis in Sydney, Australia, by the
World Wildlife Fund (WWF).

Citing the unexpected showers preceding Easter Sunday, Aaron
said the sudden rainfall could be attributed to climate change.
"It is high time we realise the importance of preserving our Earth
for our future generations," he mentioned.

Aaron has formed WeCare - Goa, a youth environment organisation,
to take up the issue of global warming in the State as he feels there's
a need for creating awareness on the phenomenon.

"WeCare - Goa has decided to hold various campaigns on global
warming throughout the year by involving various sections of the
society, right from children to the aged," he observed.

Aaron has urged like-minded people who have interest in such
issues and who want to take an active part in protecting the Earth
could contact WeCare - Goa at [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
HERALD 30/3/08 page 3

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GOACAN Post Box 187 Margao, Goa 403 601
GOACAN Post Box 78 Mapusa, Goa 403 507
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[Goanet] MP and Panjim

2008-03-30 Thread edward desilva
Philip Thomas said:
  If possible MP should renounce his Panjim seat and stand for some other place 
where he can do least harm and carry on as leader of the opposition.
  ---
  Reply: I do not understand this logic, MP can stand any where he likes, it is 
the Christaum from panjim who should use their better judgement, obviously they 
like him and their dirty Panjim, do you live in Panjim then don't vote for him.
   
  anand virgincar said:
  1 ) Mr Gadgil is trying his best to lay the blame for the mess in Panjim at 
Manohar Parrikar's door.Fine, assuming MP is entirely responsible for this 
problem ( like he is for
   every problem in Goa )
  Reply: This statement has been made out of desperation, YES every one blames 
Porrikar for problems in Goa - come up with another joke next time.
  
  anand virgincar said:
  My question to Mr Gadgil is, Why have you never brought up the issue of the 
bigger
mess in Margao and blamed Digamber Kamat for it ? He is not just the MLA for 
Margao but also the chief minister of Goa , and should have a wee bit more 
control when he wields so much more power than someone in the opposition. Is it 
because your primary goal is to tarnish MP's image ?
  Reply: Porrikar or no Porrikar Goa politics will survive. It is people like 
you who take offence every time some one talks against Porrikar (simply because 
people like you talk about Porrikar all of the time). Talking against Porrikar 
or BJP does not mean one is FOR Congress, Digu was BJP, he has said one or two 
women raped in Goa we should not make a big noise about it, he has done a lot 
of harm when he was BJP MLA for margao.
  IT IS NOT PORRIKAR VS DIGU OR ANY ONE ELSE  for that matter.
  It is people like you who talk and talk about Porrikar as if he is some kind 
of BUDDA and we have to worship him. 
  WELL, YOU CAN.
  ED.



   
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Re: [Goanet] Goa: Govt bans foreigners from buying land

2008-03-30 Thread JOHN MONTEIRO
Hi Georgina
   
  I cannot fathom out if these land developers (we have other names for them) 
who advertise in UK & other parts of the world, Russian, Israel, Germany etc 
included, how come they manage to sell these houses to the non-Indian, 
non-Goan, non-PIOs for a huge sum, then later find they actually own the house, 
but cannot live in it after the visa expires, etc etc still manage to stay in 
business and continue this trade?
   
  I was under the assumption that unless you are a PIO & recognised as such by 
the Indian Government, you have no right of possession.
   
  I have been invited many times to some of the shows here in the UK where a 
certain land developer has many areas that are covered with their houses, from 
one-bed apartments and duplexes to four or five-bedroom detached 
villas still selling and making a profit to overseas buyers?
   
  Are they not living in the houses themselves?  Are all these houses being 
bought for investment purposes only?  
   
  Its a scandal that these projects are making Goa a "third-class" tourist 
destination with no profits being filtered into building more hospitals, 
schools and the infra-structure where more money is needed, for street 
cleaning, disposing of the extra effluent created via the proper soil pipes 
(not into the sea again is it where the coral has now almost disappeared, 
poisoning the fish with unsterilised materials flushed out in the ocean?).
   
  Something is going to give pretty soon, and its always money in the greasy 
palms of the corrupt officials who have been voted in to get the place cleaned 
up no doubt, I cant see anything happening, other than 
   
  What is the use of the Government banning the sale of Goan or Indian land to 
non-Goans, non-Indians or non-PIOs if the corrupt officials will find a way 
round that little proposal passing off as Law.
   
  Its time for a rethink, perhaps more demonstrations, properly conducted, 
non-violent actions such as those with the SEZ etc. All constructive 
suggestions welcome, I hope they can be implemented, and soon.
   
  John Monteiro
  ---

Georgina Fernandes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote It is high time the Government of 
Goa woke up to the fact that *GOA IS FOR GOANS* All this time the helped and 
aided the foreigners to pruchase property in Goa, without their knowledge it 
would not have been so easy for them. Better late than never get the prices 
down and help Goans to buy property in Goa. 201:35:00%20AM Goa: Govt bans 
foreigners from buying land GEORGINA
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[Goanet] The Kosambis, father and son

2008-03-30 Thread Goanet News
http://www.hindu.com/mag/2008/03/30/stories/2008033050080300.htm

The Kosambis, father and son

RAMACHANDRA GUHA

D.D. Kosambi was a mathematician who trained himself to be a
world-class historian. His father's life was even more remarkable…

Photo: The Hindu Photo Library

Multi-faceted: D.D. Kosambi.

A friend who lives in Goa writes to say that he is greatly enjoying
the series of lectures being organised there to commemorate the
centenary of the polymathic scholar D.D. Kosambi. The historian
Romilla Thapar had spoken in the series, as had the jo urnalist P.
Sainath; two Indians one thinks the notoriously judgmental Kosambi
would have approved of, both for the depth of their research and the
commitment to their craft.

Damodar Dharmanand Kosambi was a remarkable man. Trained as a
mathematician, he then went on to train himself as a historian. His
day job was as a Professor of Mathematics at the Tata Institute of
Fundamental Research. On the train up and down from Poona (where he
lived), and during the evenings, nights, and weekends, he gathered the
materials to write some pioneering works of historical scholarship,
among them A Study of Indian History and The Culture and Civilisation
of Ancient India in Historical Outline.
A pioneer

Apart from his books, Kosambi also published collections of scholarly
essays, in one of which he wrote about the village communities of his
native Goa. The languages he knew well included Sanskrit, Pali,
Marathi, and English. Among Indian historians, he was a pioneer in the
use of numismatics, linguistics, and, above all, anthropology.

Kosambi was a man of a fierce and at times truculent independence. He
was sympathetic to Marxism, whose materialist approach he found useful
in reconstructing the economic and social life of civilisations now
long dead. But he abhorred the dogmatism and insularity of what was
then the undivided Communist Party of India. It was impossible for him
to follow a party line. In his political writings (which too were
collected in several volumes, one of which bore the charming title
Exasperating Essays) he was sharply critical of what he called the
"Official Marxists" (or OM, for short).

Among the community of Indian historians there is almost a "Kosambi
cult" in operation. It is good that the civil society of Goa is
joining academics elsewhere in India in paying tribute to his memory.
But mostly forgotten in the meantime is a Kosambi who was perhaps an
even more remarkable man. This was the historian's own father,
Dharmanand.

I first heard of Dharmanand Kosambi from a friend who taught for many
years at the University of California at Berkeley and is arguably the
greatest living scholar of Jainism. His name is Padmanabha Jaini. It
was in Berkeley on a cold January afternoon, years ago, that Professor
Jaini acquainted me with the elements of Kosambi pére's life. As a
young man he felt the urge to learn Sanskrit; finding the urge
irresistible, he left his wife and baby boy to go to Poona and study
with the great Sanskrit scholar R.G. Bhandarkar. His studies
inculcated further desires and ambitions; among them to make a deeper
acquaintance with Buddhism. He travelled around the country, spending
time in Baudh Gaya, in Sarnath, and in Kausambhi, near Allahabad,
where the Buddha lived after attaining enlightenment. It was from this
last place that he took the name by which he and his son came to be
known. So far as I know, this remains the only "Kosambi" family in
Goa, India, or the world.

In search of a living Buddhist tradition, Dharmanand Kosambi also
spent several years in Sri Lanka (then Ceylon), where he learnt Pali.
By now, he was a world authority on the language and culture of early
Buddhism. He taught briefly in Bombay and Poona before attracting the
attention of the American academy, then (as now) on the look-out for
world authorities to attract (or seduce). With his wife and son,
Kosambi travelled across the seas to Cambridge, Massachusetts, where
he was put to work editing Pali texts for a series published by
Harvard University.
Moved by Gandhi

Dharmanand Kosambi spent a decade in the United States, in which time
his son studied mathematics at Boston University (to add to the
Sanskrit and Pali that he learnt at home). Reading about Gandhi's
movement made the senior Kosambi turn his back on America (and the
scholarly study of Buddhism) to return to India and court arrest
during the Salt Satyagraha. He was deeply attached to Gandhi; when the
Mahatma moved to Wardha in 1934, Dharmanand Kosambi moved with him
too. When I visited the ashram in Sewagram some years ago, an elderly
(and knowledgeable) guide showed me the hut Gandhi lived in, as well
as the huts occupied by his closest associates, such as Mahadev Desai
and Mira Behn (Madeleine Slade). Then he pointed to a structure, as
modest as the others, which he called "Professor Sahib Ki Kutir". This
was where the one-time Goan, Buddhist scholar, and Harvard academic
had spent his last yea

[Goanet] Goans from Bahrain, Kuwait, Oman, Qatar, UAE receive Leadership Awards

2008-03-30 Thread gaspersWorld

 
Goans from Bahrain, Kuwait, Oman, Qatar, UAE receive Leadership Awards
-gasper crasto - www.goa-world.com 


In a brief function 'CONFERENCE ON INDIAN EXPARTRIATES IN THE GULF COUNTRIES
 held at the Convention Hall, Hotel Mandovi, Panaji on 29th March 2008, the
NRI Affairs Directorate of Goa Government presented Leadership Awards for
community service to well known Goans from the Gulf for recognition of their
social activities towards the Indian community.
 
The honored recipients:
 
Bahrain: Mr. Francis Correia, Mr. Gabriel R. Crasto, and Mr. Alfred D’Souza.
 
Kuwait: Dr Jaganath Ramnath Chodankar, Mr Alex Wilson Coelho, and Mr. Carmo
Santos
 
Oman: Dr Mario Carmo de Souza , and Mr Celso Vincent Andre Fernandes
 
Qatar: Mr Simon D'Silva
 
UAE: Mr. Ramnath Arjuna Mavlingcar
Dubai: Mr Rockson Rufus Rodrigues
 
(Delhi): Ms Suman Anand Kurade 
 
The awards were given during the Conference on Indian expatriates in the
Gulf countries on March 29 at Hotel Mandovi, Panaji, Goa. The Conference was
inaugurated by Union Minister for Overseas Indian Affairs, Shri Vayalar Ravi
 The function was presided over by Commissioner of NRI Affairs Shri Eduardo
Faleiro while Chief Minister of Goa, Shri Digambar Kamat was the Chief Guest

 
:::FRANCIS CORREIA:::
 
Francis Correia, hailing from Cansaulim, a resident of Bahrain since 1974,
is employed with Ahmed Mansoor Al A’Ali as Manager of the Real Estate
Division. He has been involved in community services from the time he
arrived into Bahrain and has served the community in different fields.
Correia has provided legal, medical and financial aid to a large number of
Goans and members of other expatriate communities. Through the Indian
Embassy and Ministry of Labour, he has resolved many disputes of laborers
and domestic helpers. He has assisted many with sponsorship problems or to
find alternate employment. He has actively participated in events to help
the local charities as well.
 
Correia was honoured by the Ministry of Social Affairs in 1987 for his
active participation in organizing festivities of expatriate societies and
clubs to celebrate the Bahrain National Day.
 
He was elected as General Secretary of Young Goans Club, way back in 1979
and served on the Managing committee several times. During his tenure with
the club he was able to interact with Goans from other Gulf and European
Countries in organizing sports and social events.
 
Correia is the main person involved in organizing Konkani tiatr events in
Bahrain with Goan based and local stage artistes which has helped display
Goan culture and heritage in the Gulf and keep Konkani alive and popular. He
has also used his status and position to organize visits by political,
religious, social leaders from Goa. He is currently the President of Young
Goans Club.
 
Correia is also a coordinator of the Konkani Community of the Sacred Heart
Church.
 

:::G.R. CRASTO::: 
 
Gabriel R. Crasto made headlines last year when he was awarded the ‘Man of
the Year Award’ by the Goan Review Art Foundation, Mumbai for his services
linked to the Goan community in Bahrain and the Konkani language. Crasto, a
popular Master Compere (MC) among the Goan community in Bahrain is always at
the forefront of social, cultural and sporting events. He has utilized these
opportunities to showcase Konkani, Goan culture, heritage and identity of
Goans in Bahrain.
 
“For me, organizing such events is always a dual purpose,” stated Crasto.
“It gives an opportunity for the talented members of Goan community based
here to display their art and whatever little income is generated from such
events is diverted to help the needy.”
 
In association with other community groups, Crasto has organized functions
to felicitate and honor outstanding sportspersons and stage artistes of the
Goan origin. He is always at hand to help those in need of his services -
either to coordinate with the Indian Embassy or the local Government
agencies. A resident of Bahrain for the last 25 years, he is employed with
Mohammed Jalal & Sons as Manager in their Travel Division. Being in the
travel field, Crasto was influential in obtaining special fares from Air
India for Goans during the Exposition of St. Francis Xavier.

A freelance journalist, Crasto hails from Navelim. He covers the activities
of Goans in Bahrain through his writings in magazines published from Goa. In
his younger days Crasto worked as a correspondent of West Coast Times
(English daily), Novem Goem and Goencho Mog, etc.
 
In December 2007, Crasto was honored by the Young Goans Club for his
contribution to community welfare. He has served several terms on the
Managing Committee of the Club in different positions in the past. He is the
Chairman of Bahrain Goans Football League and a member of the Konkani
Community Committee of the Sacred heart Church.
 
:::ALFRED D'SOUZA:::
 
Since coming to Bahrain over 20 years ago, Alfredo D’Souza, has always
volunteered his time and services for the poor of the community. He is

Re: [Goanet] MP and Panjim (was Why Manohar Parrikar is not CM today)

2008-03-30 Thread anand virgincar

   You know, given all this, I think I will withdraw my request thatParrikar   
actually do something for his constituency. It is betterthat he continues to   
do nothing rather than put in a performancelike that again.[ Vidyadhar   Gadgil 
]I wholeheartedly second this idea. If possible MP should renounce his 
Panjim   seat and stand for some other place where he can do least harm and 
carry on   as leader of the opposition.[ Philip Thomas ]
 
   My comments are specifically directed to Bab Philip ( whose
   views on the aviation industry in Goa are thought provoking
   and for whom I have a lot of respect for his obvious deep
   knowledge of that matter )
 
   Can Mr P Thomas please give reasons why he agrees with 
   Mr Gadgil ?
 
   He should note :
   # The days when one Manohar Parrikar hater made a comment
   berating MP ( without providing any factual support ) and there
   was a chorus of agreement from others with the same partisan
   mentality . with no meaningful challenge from other posters on 
   this forum ( apart from the viva viva MP posters who again provided
   no factual data as to why they support MP ) ARE LONG GONE.
  
   # What we have now is individuals who are presenting a case as
   to why MP should be in charge of Goa. These individuals are
   backing their case with facts. They are also not afraid to admit
   to his faults.They are even open to other solutions for Goa's ills
   ( which do not include any role for MP ) provided the persons
   forwarding these solutions are prepared to demonstrate their
   feasibilty.
  
   # So wake up , Bab Philip , to the new Goanet boat ( at least as
   far as political discussions go on this forum ). As Bosco pointed
   out to me ( and rightly so ) , I was at a risk of sinking my boat by
   digressing from my core agenda and engaging in meaningless rants.
   SO ARE YOU.
 
   warm regards,
   anand
  
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[Goanet] ALEXYZ Daily Cartoon (31Mar08)

2008-03-30 Thread alexyz fernandes
On finding a Police Officer spending an intimate evening with his 'Juliet', 
the police Chief says:


"No Wonder the Scarlett murder case cannot be solved!"


To enjoy the visual cartoon please visit:   www.alexyztoons.com
Site sponsored by  www.goasudharop.org 



[Goanet] Goa news for March 31, 2008

2008-03-30 Thread Goanet News Service
Goa News from Google News and Goanet.org
Visit http://www.goanet.org/newslinks.php for the full stories.

*** Goa Govt to hand over Scarlett case to CBI - Hindustan
Times
[1 hour ago]  Scarlett's mother claims the Goa police
dismantled the shack where her daughter was raped, to hamper the
CBI investigations, reports Barney Henderson. ...
http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=T&ct=us/0-0&fd=R&url=http://www.hindustantimes.com/Redir.aspx?ID=05f4c859-93fd-44bf-8866-89a54a332498&ParentID=5c76babc-2295-43f9-94d5-2e1d2fea08d1&cid=1144694000&ei=eyLwR-a-K5_eqwO3vcnVBA&usg=AFrqEzfZy_YJRVZqC3Ls3uIwjel8m-0yDQ

*** Police probe into Scarlettes case misleading: NCW - Hindu
[2 hours ago]  Panaji: The National Commission for Women (NCW)
has held that Goa police investigations into the rape and murder
of British teenager Scarlette Eden Keeling ...
http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=T&ct=us/9-0&fd=R&url=http://www.hindu.com/2008/03/31/stories/2008033155631400.htm&cid=1146996580&ei=eyLwR-a-K5_eqwO3vcnVBA&usg=AFrqEzcYYtDSz4QsOos_3TvHFcYEUDUFDQ

*** Foreigners can\'t buy land in Goa: Govt - NDTV.com
[20 hours ago]  The Goa government has decided that no
foreigner will be allowed to buy land in the state for personal
purposes. However, they can buy land for business ...
http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=T&ct=us/3-0&fd=R&url=http://www.ndtv.com/convergence/ndtv/story.aspx?id=NEWEN20080045408&ch=3/30/2008%208:28:00%20AM&cid=1145863927&ei=eyLwR-a-K5_eqwO3vcnVBA&usg=AFrqEzc3TptAfQW-QRqnY9zvrD2Njlzyqw

*** Goas assurance to Russians - Hindu
[2 hours ago]  PANAJI: While seeking to reassure the Consul
General of the Russian Federation, Alexander V. Mantysky, about
the safety and security of Russians in Goa, ...
http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=T&ct=us/1-0&fd=R&url=http://www.hindu.com/2008/03/31/stories/2008033155641400.htm&cid=1146756428&ei=eyLwR-a-K5_eqwO3vcnVBA&usg=AFrqEzeG7_tbO6HrdZVGuVTF75ve6lWBIQ

*** Goa still top tourist destination - Economic Times
[51 minutes ago]  NEW DELHI: The beach paradise of Goa is the
top tourist destination for Summer of 2008, despite the recent
Scarlet Keeling controversy. ...
http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=T&ct=us/2-0&fd=R&url=http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/News/News_By_Industry/Services/Goa_still_top_tourist_destination/articleshow/2912645.cms&cid=1147108398&ei=eyLwR-a-K5_eqwO3vcnVBA&usg=AFrqEzc_vACZ4yWuD8OtP5m1k5VcnRnIPg

*** More firms to file petitions after Cipla`s plea against Goa
SEZ policy - Business Standard
[Mar 29, 2008]  Peninsula Pharma Research Centre is coming up
at Sancoale in Goa in 20.36 hectare area to house biotech units.
It is yet to start work at the site, ...
http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=T&ct=us/4-0&fd=R&url=http://www.business-standard.com/common/news_article.php?leftnm=3&subLeft=1&chklogin=N&autono=318362&tab=r&cid=1146405743&ei=eyLwR-a-K5_eqwO3vcnVBA&usg=AFrqEzfaWCphu8WZBy8n2j3XAwosA65KRQ

*** After days of bad press, Goa back in a festive mood -
CNN-IBN
BN, India - 14 hours agoGoa: After many days of bad press, Goa
was back in a festive mood with the famous Shigmo festival,
which depicts the state's folk culture. ...
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safe destination for tourists. ...
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*** Saligao Sporting in Silla Goa Resort finals - Navhind Times
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Re: [Goanet] Goa at Crossroads - NT PANORAMA [30/3/08] -by : Dr. Wagle & Dr. Kennerkar - COMMENTS

2008-03-30 Thread Santosh Helekar
The stated causes of a declining female/male sex ratio
do not seem to explain the data. The biggest drop of
this ratio is seen between 1960 and 1971. Ultrasound
diagnosis was not available in Goa at that time, so
the gender of the fetus could not be determined.
Consequently, sex-selective abortions were not
possible then. Female infanticide was more common in
the past than today, so the trend should have been
reversed. The same is true with respect to neglect of
the female child leading to higher mortality, and
higher maternal mortality. The actual values for these
measures are likely to have been much greater in the
1950s than in 1990s because of the enormous progress
in medicine and improvement in medical care, despite
all the practical problems in Goa.

None of the stated causes below, therefore, really
account for the changing sex ratio at age 7 and above,
since 1960. While sex-selective abortions is certainly
a significant recent contributor, I think a major
cause of the decline since 1960 is an overall decline
in deaths due to infections and infectious diseases,
many of which tended to affect males more than females
(in some cases there were as many as 3 male deaths for
every female death). Another reason might be a
reduction in the mortality of young males due to
violence and accidents, and their short- and long-term
medical consequences. The latter might be offset to
some extent by increased rate of automobile accidents
today.

Cheers,

Santosh

--- floriano goasuraj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Goa at crossroads
> By Dr. M P Wagle and Dr. P S Kinnerkar
> NT Panorama - March 30, 2008
>Similarly, the rapidly falling sex ration (females
per >1000 males)should be considered a most serious
threat >to the social fabric of Goa (table 2).
>The problem is very serious. The Census of 2001
>identified several causes for this fall. The major
>among them include: neglect of the girl child
>resulting in their higher mortality at younger ages,
>higher maternal mortality, sex selective abortions
and >female infanticides (Government of India ,
'Census
>of India, Series I, India, 2001, p 91). Of these, sex
>selective abortion appears to be the most dominant
>cause for the fall in the sex ratio since the
>beginning of 1990s in the entire country. In the case
>of Goa, the fall was much more severe. While the fall
>in the sex ratio in the population aged seven and
>above, as reflected in the Censuses of 1991 and 2001,
>was marginal, from 967 to 964 respectively, the ratio
>in the age group 0-6 slipped faster from 964 to 933.
>Such an unprecedented fall may be attributed to the
>widespread abortion of female fetus owing to the
>availability of sex determination facilities, higher
>ratio of doctors per thousand population, high per
>capita income which means that there is the capacity
>to pay for the high cost of abortion, etc.
>

Table 2 [Sex Ratio of Goa -1990-2001]
[Females per 1000 males]
Year   Sex ratio
19001,091
19101,108
19211,120
19311,088
19401,084
19501,128
19601,066
1971  981
1981  975
1991  967
2001  961


Re: [Goanet] Goa's Education: HERALD(Goa), March 30, 2008 (Valmiki Faleiro)

2008-03-30 Thread William Rebello

appreciated you article its the gospel truth. may tribe enhance



[Goanet] Bring 74th amendment to Municipal Act in Goa demands consumer activist

2008-03-30 Thread Goa Desc
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Bring 74th amendment to Municipal Act: activist
Threatens to move High Court

A civic and consumer activist from Cuncolim has threatened
to knock the doors of the High Court if the government fails to
take the implementation of the 74th Constitutional Amendment
to its logical conclusion.

Rony Dias has petitioned to the Urban Development Minister
Joaquim Alemao, with copies to the Chief Minister and others,
to bring a new Municipal Act incorporating the 74th
Constitutional Amendment Act.

According to him, the Directorate of Municipal Administration
had prepared a draft Municipal Act known as Goa Municipal
Act 2006, incorporating the 74th Amendment and had sent it
for necessary corrections to the All India Institute of Local Self
Government in Mumbai more than a year ago. However, till date,
the government is reluctant to introduce the new Municipal Act,
terming it as a blatant attempt to control the Municipalities and
councillors, deny peoples participation in the decision-making
process and devolution of powers and responsibilities to the
Municipalities and the people.

Dias said this further amount to denying the transfer of the 18
functions stated in the Twelfth Scheduled to the Urban Local
Bodies. He said the implementation of the 74th Amendment
would bring in a new Municipal Act as the present 1968
Municipal Act is considered outdated in these modern times.

He maintained that the Goa government for the last 14 years
has denied its citizens the fundamental rights guaranteed under
the 74th Constitutional Amendment, adding, "this has affected
peoples participation in the decision-making process, denial of
the Twelfth Schedule and Central government funds such as the
Jawaharlal Nehru National Urban Renewal Mission".
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[Goanet] A first-hand account of abuse at the hands of Goan police

2008-03-30 Thread Goanet News
http://www.merinews.com/catFull.jsp?articleID=131485

A first-hand account of abuse at the hands of Goan police
Armstrong Vaz, 30 March 2008, Sunday
Views:: 205Comments: 0[Previous Article] [Next Article]
The murder of British teenager, Scarlet Keeling, in Goa's Anjuna's
beach has once again exposed Goa police's corrupt practices. These
policemen tortures and abuses the tourists, both physically and
mentally, if they refuse to give them bribe.

Merinews Photos

IF FIFTEEN years back, my American friends Mike and Cindy, vowed never
to come back to India again, they had a reason. The American-based
jurist was badly battered by a policeman, Shankar, attached to Colva
police station in South Goa, coastal village of Benaulim, for refusing
to pay bribe. He complained to the embassy and attached the paper
cutting of the local newspapers and left the matter to that, before
taking the next flight out of India.

The death of Scarlet Keeling, the British teenager, on the notorious
former hippie paradise beach of Anjuna, has seen hundreds of news
stories being published both in the print media and on the Internet,
focusing on Goa's bad vices of tourism, which hereto, no one had
touched on such a large scale. Internet forums are also full of
stories of abuse at the hands of police and foreigners vowing, not to
return to India and also urging others not to go, by saying-"the
experience is not worth the trouble."

While the tourism departments, both at the centre and at the state
level are trying to build India's tourism image in the face of rapes
and murders of tourists, the disgusting behaviour of the Indian police
towards tourists continues.

Here is an account of what a tourist 'Des', faced from a corrupt
police officer in South Goa beach last year and he said, "From first
hand experience, I have suffered at the hands of the Goan Police,
using and abusing those that it is meant to protect.
"I feel 'Goa police is just interested in protecting Goa'. Because Goa
has nothing to trade and the only thing that keeps it alive is, by
making money out of the tourism industry.

"Goa's notorious corrupt police and officials are only interested in
lining their own pockets and protecting their own interests.

"Police would never admit that this could have and probably was an act
of a Goan, but instead with their racist bigoted narrow minded views,
choose to blame an outsider, like that makes a difference. The act was
committed in Goa and it was the Goan police and officials who tried to
cover it up, instead of trying to find the truth.

"I was in Goa last year, where I was the victim of police corruption.
Police Inspector, Uday Parab from Colva police station, attempted to
extort 10 lakh from me and when I refused to pay I was beaten for
three days, refused food and water, made to sleep on a urine soaked
floor and was not allowed to contact anyone to inform them of my
situation, until, I signed a confession that they had written saying
'I had a sexual experience with a 25 year old man' (homosexuality is
illegal in Goa and carries a sentence of life imprisonment).

"I then went on to spend a further month in judicial lockup, while the
police claimed to be presenting their case.

"However, due to the fact that there was no forensic evidence, no
witness and no other person that this act was meant to have taken
place with, the case was kicked out of court.

"The case that Goa police had attempted to build was purely fabricated.

"In the seven years, I have been going to Goa. I never had a problem,
but now the police have turned violently on tourists, in order to
boost their income by extorting tourist by abuse, assault and planting
evidence and threatening the tourist with imprisonment. I was one of
them, fortunate enough to escape this trauma but there are many, many
more people that are going through this now in Goa and not speaking
out about it, just coming home and vowing never to return."

Patrick Malluzzo, is just another example of police corruption in
India. This 27 year old has spent the last five years in an Indian
jail and is still fighting for his freedom, after what should have
been an experience of a lifetime, turned into a nightmare, after
police arrested him and he was jailed on false charges.

I would advise anyone thinking about going to India to think again,
the experience is not worth, what it might cost you in the long run.
Most of the trade out there, involves child labour, extortion and
corruption.

Fiona, the mother of Scarlet, should be receiving all the support and
help she can.

Deal with the problems, the real issues and support this woman and her
family, its hard when you lose someone you love, but to have them
taken away in such a vicious savage way and then have the Goa police
lie and try to cover it up, is disgusting.

I also believe that in a desperate attempt to put this matter to rest,
the Goan police have just arrested anyone they know, who is of an
almost non-existent income and from anothe

[Goanet] SHAAN live in Goa, singing 'Tanha Dil' on 30/3/08 9.45pm

2008-03-30 Thread JoeGoaUk


click on abv pic for bigger view
others please click here 
http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk5/2375122274/

This year too, Idea cellular Co. organised a free show but for invitees only.
I don't know how the invitation are sent out or whether the subscribers had to
go to them for the invitation well in advance.

News paper ads say  'be an Idea subscriber and gt a free invite*

But I am an active  IDEA subscriber for about 8 years (first joined with AT&T)
when outgoing local calls were Rs. 5 per minute and incoming calls were charged
at Rs.2.50 per minute.  (Now outgoing around Rs.2 and incoming is free).

I think we are partly to be blamed as we never bothered to make enquires about
it

The programe was finshed exactly at 10pm

Watch Shaan performing Live here
http://youtube.com/watch?v=hDYCnJ2uG2Y
or
http://ishare.rediff.com/filevideo-Shaan-live-in-Goa--Singing-tanha-dil-id-141936.php

Last year, I think they brought Sunidhi Chauhan. 'Crazy Kiya Re' fame
Clips of which were also posted on youtube 

JoeGoaUk's Top Ten Video clips (11,000  views and above), 2 of the bollywood
clips figure in top ten.  Sunidhi at  8, Udit Narayan at 7  and Boney M  at 5.
No. 1  being  'Amchem Noxib'  and No. 10 the most recent one ' Goa, pearl of
the Orient'
Remo also figures in Top Ten besides Mario Trio singing old Goan Portuguese
songs

I am glad my Video Clips and Photos business really prospering.

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[Goanet] Goans in the Middle East in pain !

2008-03-30 Thread Mario Goveia
On 29/03/2008, Mario Goveia <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
... and foreign owners of US currency purchase US fixed assets, 
which they are all welcome to do by US policy, and the smart money is doing so 
even as we speak in terms of farmland, commercial property, manufacturing 
plants and corporate acquisitions.  Unlike India, the US welcomes such 
acquisitions.
>
Date: Sun, 30 Mar 2008 08:56:15 +0100
From: "Gabe Menezes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
Really ? Being more than a tad disingenuous; check out the URL below.
>
http://www.nytimes.com/2006/03/10/politics/10ports.html
>
Mario responds:
>
Yes, really.  It is you who are being disingenuous by citing an exception 
rather than the rule.  Either that or you are unfamiliar with the extent to 
which US assets of all kinds are owned by non-US investors, something that is 
common knowledge around the world.  As I said above, the smart money is doing 
so even as we speak.  Anyone really familiar with the US would know that the 
Dubai Ports deal was a rare instance that was opposed by politicians based on 
national security issues following 9/11 and the war on terrorism.  In fact 
there are other major US ports that are owned and managed by non-US owners.
>
Goans in the middle east would do well to look towards the US as an alternative 
in the near future for their vacations and personal purchases during such 
vacations.  Their money would go a longer way than in countries where the 
currency had appreciated significantly against the dollar.  
>


[Goanet] Rights activist blasts police investigation into British girl's alleged killing in India (AP, in IHT)

2008-03-30 Thread Goanet News
http://www.iht.com/articles/ap/2008/03/30/asia/AS-GEN-India-Britain-Tourist-Killed.php

Rights activist blasts police investigation into British girl's
alleged killing in India
The Associated Press
Published: March 30, 2008

PANAJI, India: A prominent human rights activist accused police of a
cover-up in their investigation into the alleged rape and killing of a
British teenager on a beach in southern India last month.

Scarlett Keeling's bruised and partially clothed body was found Feb.
18 on Anjuna beach in Goa, a small state whose coastline is crowded
with tourist resorts. Goa police initially said Keeling drowned
because she was drunk, but pressure from her family forced a second
autopsy that indicated she may have been raped and killed.

Nirmala Venkatesh, a member of the government-appointed National
Commission of Women, visited the beach over the weekend and met
Keeling's mother, Fiona Mackeown, and police officers investigating
the case.

Venkatesh told reporters late Saturday the investigation was not on
the right track. "Police are trying to hide the facts of the case and
close it. We will never allow this to happen," she said.

Venkatesh said she would meet in New Delhi with Prime Minister
Manmohan Singh and Sonia Gandhi, the governing Congress party chief,
to demand justice.

Police have arrested two men in connection with Keeling's death. The
suspects were allegedly seen drinking at the bar with her the night
she died.

Lui's Shack — a beach-side bar where Keeling was last reported seen on
Feb. 18 — was demolished before police completed investigating the
case.

Kishen Kumar, the inspector-general of police, said officers were
investigating and would question the bar's owner.

"The demolition of the shack was a serious matter. It should have been
there until at least the investigation was over," Kumar told The
Associated Press.

Keeling's mother has alleged that police and local government
officials colluded with criminals involved with a local drug ring to
cover up Keeling's rape and killing.

Keeling had been on vacation in India with her mother, her mother's
boyfriend, and her six siblings. Her family was traveling elsewhere in
India when she was killed.


[Goanet] More firms to file petitions after Cipla`s plea against Goa SEZ policy

2008-03-30 Thread Goanet News
http://www.business-standard.com/common/news_article.php?leftnm=3&subLeft=1&chklogin=N&autono=318362&tab=r

More firms to file petitions after Cipla`s plea against Goa SEZ policy
BS Reporter / Mumbai March 30, 2008
The move by drug major Cipla's group company, Meditab Specialities, to
seek legal action to get clarity on the future of its special economic
zone (SEZ) project in Goa is likely to make others notified zone
developers follow suit.

"We want to know who will compensate us for the losses if the SEZ is
going to be cancelled? We hope the Court will address this issue,"
said Amar Lulla, joint managing director, Cipla Ltd.

Meditab filed a petition at the Panaji Bench of the Bombay High Court
last week challenging the Goa government's recommendation to scrap its
SEZ, made after protests by locals.

The developer of another notified SEZ, Peninsula Pharma Research
Centre, promoted by real estate major Peninsula Land Ltd, is also
planning to move the Bombay High Court Bench at Goa against the local
government's recommendation.

"The government has allotted the land for us and the special economic
zone has been notified. We are hoping that the project will go on,"
said Rajesh Jaggi, managing director, Peninsula Land.

Peninsula Pharma Research Centre is coming up at Sancoale in Goa in
20.36 hectare area to house biotech units. It is yet to start work at
the site, sources added.

K Raheja Corp is the third notified SEZ developer in Goa.

Goa government officials were not available for comment.

Lulla said the company decided to invest in Goa after the special
economic zone was notified and various assurances were given by the
local government. The state government's decision to backtrack and
scrap the special economic zonewould cause huge loss for the company
and impact its expansion plans, he added.

Cipla has so far invested around Rs 200 crore in the 600 acre SEZ
being promoted by Meditab Specialities Ltd, developer of the special
economic zone.

"We have invested in land and machinery and orders were placed for
plant equipment. We will soon submit to the court all details of our
investments so far and possible losses," said Lulla.

Cipla planned to invest Rs 400 crore at thespecial economic zone at
Keri in South Goa to make aerosols, capsules and tablets.

In January this year, the Goa government had asked the Union Ministry
of Commerce to de-notify the three approved SEZs in the state and not
to process the eight special economic zone proposals awaiting appoval.
It also demanded not to notify another four SEZs which had been
approved but not notified.


Re: [Goanet] Respect Our Right to Identity

2008-03-30 Thread Rajan P. Parrikar
To Goanet -

Arwin Mesquita wrote:
>Goans should support your right to your identity/interests,
>likewise please respect our right to the same.

Arwin,

I hear you, and empathize with your sentiments.

Right now, the first order of business is to save 
Goa from the Save Goa movements.  The other day
we had Dr. Oscar Rebello, Convener of GBA, claim 
on national TV that there is no such thing as a Goan
and non-Goan.  There is a thriving cottage industry 
of  these snakes-in-the-grass activists here, these
self-aggrandizing, self-promoting fellows who first
ride on the aspirations of the common Goan folk 
and then use the popular campaigns to further 
their own personal and political agendas.

Dr. Oscar Rebello should be asked to step down 
as Convener of GBA since in my emphatic opinion 
he no longer represents the wishes and aspirations 
of the Goan people.  Au contraire, his utterances
are guaranteed to subvert them.

Regards,


r






Re: [Goanet] A Question

2008-03-30 Thread Fr. Ivo da C. Souza

From: "Mario Goveia" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

I have written to Pope Benny that he clearly has a conflict of interest
in the case of John Paul II and should recuse himself in this case.
Leave it to others 50 years from now.  What's the hurry?

*I did not take any "mental-health break", but it was the conversation of
rape-with-murder and questions to the political leaders that were occupying
the Goanet.
I leave you free to think as you wish. I have no 'delegation' from the
authorities to speak on their behalf. You have more contact with our beloved
Benedict XVI.


Inculturation?  Unavoidable?  Bah, humbug!  These are self-serving
sophistries. The church has gotten so far from the manger that claims
that they are living close to Christ are patently bogus.

*Inculturation is the law of human existence. It is rooted in the historical
event of Incarnation.
If Jesus had come today, he would not have lived in the same
way--sociologically. His values remain.
We have to live in the new culture and evangelize it. You should revise your
theology of 'manger' and study biblical theology of liberation.


Thanks for unintentionally making yet another point for me.  Many of the
people who live in Dharavi are probably far closer to Christ than those
who consider their surroundings "a shame".  By the way, just for the
record, I already have shoes from Dharavi, as well as a fine leather
jacket, and Dharavi is not the first sight for many tourists who land in
Mumbai.

*Jesus came to raise the poor people to the dignity of children of God, not
to keep them in Dharavi style. They have to be educated accordingly. The
Church and the State have to work for them. Jesus does not want them to
continue in that inhuman condition of oppressing poverty, but proclaims a
social manifesto of liberation (cf.Lk 4:18-21).
To live in Dharavi style is un-Christian.That is certainly a shame for our
country.The tourists can see that, though we may not notice it.
It is to be seen while landing in Mumbai. You may have bought shoes from
Dharavi at a cheaper price and better quality. But we buy shoes from the
place where we are.
You can offer shoes and fine leather jacket to the Holy Father. See what is
his reaction.
He may accept them as a gift from poor India.


Fr. Ivo: Do you suggest that the Church leaders should live in Dharavi
style?

By jove, I think Fr. Ivo has finally got it!  Now, THAT would be pretty

close to the manger, wouldn't it?

**Not at all, wrong. That is not the teaching of Jesus. Neither has he lived
in Dharavi style. He belonged to the family of a crafstman. He had
influential relatives, mostly cousin-brothers and cousin-sisters.
Try to investigate what Lukan account of manger means (cf.Lk 2:7,
compared with Mt 2:10 and 11). You can study these texts and find out that
the emphasis is not on poverty but on 'royal' birth and hospitality,
since you seem to be familiar with the Beatitudes and Golden Rule.
Missionaries are toiling so as to offer the oppressed people human dignity,
whereas you are preaching Dharavi nonsense to the Holy Father. Simplicity of 
living style, yes,
but not dehumanizing poverty. Life style cannot be imposed, it should be 
willingly accepted.

Each country has its own living style.
What you think is "indefensible" can certainly be defended in the light of 
Reason and
Faith.Christian faith is not against scientific and technological progress. 
That

is God's gift to us. Read the social encyclicals. The Church is living the
'option for the poor", within the hierarchy of values and priorities.


Yes I have heard of such orphanages since I live in a country where the
sin of wealth accumulation is a priority which then drives private
charity that far exceeds anything that comes from Rome.

**People living in materialistic affluence and in consumerism are not those
sending money to the poor, but those who have less, like the poor widow of
the Gospel (see Lk 21:1-4). The Church is sending money to the countries 
stricken by hunger

and calamities.To speak against oppressing wealth is not new--Jesus has
spoken in parables (cf.the parable of Rich and Beggar in Lk 16:19-31; and of 
the Foolish Rich Man in Lk 12:13-21).
He warned people about the danger of wealth (cf.Lk 18:18-23: the young rich 
man).

He transformed Zacheus, the tax-collector (cf.Lk 19:1-110).
It is the context of socio-economic injustice or inequity (see Lk 16:13: 
slavery of wealth).

I give below a write-up from www.zenith.org

Regards.
Fr.Ivo

Littering Not New "Deadly Sin," Bishops Clarify


Say Vatican Didn't Publish List of 7 Modern Misdeeds



LONDON, MARCH 11, 2008 (Zenit.org).- Reports that the Vatican has published 
a new list of the seven deadly sins of modern times that includes littering 
and economic inequality is simply not true, affirmed the episcopal 
conference of England and Wales.


The conference released a statement today clarifying that an interview 
published Sunday by L'Osservatore Romano with Bishop Gianfranco Girotti, 
regent

[Goanet] SWADESH

2008-03-30 Thread Ricardo Nunes

Message: 3
Date: Sun, 30 Mar 2008 00:23:42 -0400
From: "frank debarros" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [Goanet] Goa: Govt bans foreigners from buying land
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
reply-type=original

The word "foreigners" require definition. Does this apply to Goans  
that have

settled abroad for economic reasons are regarded as foreigners for the
purpose of this regulaltion/law? The Russians the British the Jews  etc
including outsiders from within India should be banned completely from
purchasing not only land but established Goan homes and news appartments
etc. They may be allowed to rent but not buy outright. Goa has been a
peaceful state but now it has become a den for speculators drug barons
prostitution merchants in order words introducing all that is immoral  
that
have destroyed the west. People can visist as tourists but as  
individuals

they contribute nothing that is worthwhile for Goans.Why does Goa need
casinos when it is well recognized fact that these dens are run under  
the

auspices of mafia There are other ways and means to attract tourists but
casinos?  go to Las Vegas (to name only one such  prominent location)  
GOA

FOR GOANS!!!.

Frank de Barros
Brisbane.


Australia for the Aborigenes.
Africa for everybody ´cause we all came from there.

Ricardo Nunes
Lisboa






Re: [Goanet] Hinduism and Henotheism

2008-03-30 Thread Gilbert Lawrence
To begin with, I would love to change the title of the thread, since the dialog 
is no where connected to title. But the moderators refused that change. That is 
understandable and I accept their decision.
 
A physician supposedly cannot talk about sociology or history. But the person 
with that view, can  authoritatively opine on these two topics, ani thea bhair, 
religion, anthropology, genetics, cancer, migration patterns, etc none of which 
are related to his professed field. Granted  his  instantaneous expertise is 
obtained by net-surfing.  The rest of us mortals have to read and read; and ask 
opinions, and as you say "Those who write seriously know how much they have to 
study."
 
Unfortunately some goanetters spend more time zapping other posts (in less than 
3 minutes) than reading and understanding the post they are responding to or 
what is copied from the net.  You put it well, "Readers will not be able to 
read critically unless they are also trained or personally tuned to these 
sciences." Tuning into the sciences (or anything else) does not start with 
merely reading a topic on goanet.

Regards, GL
 
 
--- Fr. Ivo da C. Souza 
 
In the beginning most scientists were religious priests. There are priests who 
are not specialized in history, yet they are writing and publishing books on 
history. If a physician has deepened sociology or history, he can surely write 
on these topics. There are physicians who taught sciences, not only medicine 
and biology, but physics, chemistry and mathematics.  Those who write seriously 
know how much they have to study. Readers will not be able to read critically 
unless they are also trained or personally tuned to these sciences.


 


  

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[Goanet] New tourist attraction: Ghatis in open-air sexual acts in Panjim

2008-03-30 Thread Rajan P. Parrikar
To Goanet -

New tourist attraction in Panjim: ghatis in open-air sexual acts.
These are pictures taken by JoeGoaUk of the ghati colony taking
root at the Panjim river promenade.  The sidewalks here turn
into cooking and sleeping zones at night.

Here's Joe's introduction:
"For the last 3 nights or so, I see him with the company of 
men (sleeping with them at the same place opp Dempo, 
even seen in sexual act. He has become a good pass time 
of the other regular ghantis who are sleeping there."

http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk_dirtypanjim/2366561045/

http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk_dirtypanjim/2367399202/

http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk_dirtypanjim/2371781875/sizes/l/

http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk_dirtypanjim/2371781875/sizes/l/


Regards,


r





Re: [Goanet] Goa: Govt bans foreigners from buying land

2008-03-30 Thread JOHN MONTEIRO
Agreed, totally!

Alinda Rodriguez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:  Fantastic news. BRAVO


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[Goanet] Talking photos: Senior Tiatr Personalities

2008-03-30 Thread JoeGoaUk
Talking photos: Senior Tiatr Personalities

Jyoti Kuncolienkar
http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk11/2374306143/

Gilberto Goes 
http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk11/2372696982/

http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk11/2372696552/


Note:
Mr. Gilbert Goes is new to me. Can any one write a line or two on GG?

Thank you.

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Re: [Goanet] goan identity

2008-03-30 Thread Roland Francis
Hi Eugene,

You are missed here in Toronto and I look forward to seeing you at the
International Convention and at Viva Goa where you can be usually
found.

It would be great to read any articles from the pen of eminent Goans
like Prof Frank D'Souza, Prof Armando Menezes, Prof Lucio Rodrigues,
and Prof Eddie Fernandes. These were all teaching professors who not
only enjoyed their professions with a passion and had sharp and
brilliant minds, but the important thing here is that they wore their
Goan identity like a badge on their suits.

At St. Xaviers in Bombay I was a student of Eddie Fernandes and
Menezes-Fernandes and attending their lectures was a thing of joy.
Their books were laid out on the desk but they never had any occasion
to refer to them or read out from them. One could say they did this
year after year and therefore were used to it, but one would be wrong.
They were constantly introducing new elements of thought that never
originated from the books of the day. My only regret is that it was
the age when I was sowing my wild oats and the girls in class held a
more powerful attraction than it should.

Prof Armand Menezes is the late father of George Menezes who sometimes
writes on Goanet. Prof Armand's articles have been compiled I believe
by his children on one commemorative anniversary though I have not had
the opportunity of access to it.

There is much gold in the writings of eminent Goans both Hindu and
Catholic but the problem for diasporic Goans is that they have no
access to it unless they are of a mind to singlemindedly chase a
certain book at a certain time and then one loses patience.

The usual comment is that overseas Goans are not interested in buying
books by Goan authors. That truth does not hold good for me and many
others in Canada. I would glady lay down my dollars to read good Goan
books but I cannot get them easily. Ideally I would like to go to a
site where I can see a well priced book and get it on my doorstep
within a week without paying air mail charges that are often twice and
thrice the price of the book.

How I wish that in Toronto there was a small business that on the side
stocked both old and modern Goan author titles, where I could simply
step in or have couriered to me the next day a book I buy. This is not
a impossible wish, but it would take a dedicated businessman to make
this happen profitably to him. There will be many buyers in the city
to make it possible, but who is going to bell the cat.

Here is my wish list:
All of Teresa Albuquerque's books
Memoires of Imelda Tavora (of Emisorra de Goa fame)
All writings by Goan professors I have named
Anything that FN publishes
Writings of Portuguese authors on Goa in English

and many many others I cannot think of at this moment.

Roland.



On Sun, Mar 30, 2008 at 4:05 AM, Eugene Correia <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I knew  Prof. Frank D'Souza had something written on
> being a Goa in the posthumous collection, Frankly
> Speaking. So I checked and found two essays on what it
> is to be a Goan.
> Good reading for those who would like to get an
> overview from the pen of one of the finest Goan
> essayists of his time and probably even today.
> I, however, feel that the essays are "exuberant", as
> the good old and now dead professor uses the word, one
> among three, I think, to describe the Goan.
> One must understand that Prof. Frank was no
> sociologist but a teacher of English. What he writes
> is from the heart. The book, published by a committee
> after Frank's death, is collected pieces from
> magazines and weeklies, notably The Examiner.
> Maybe I should scan them and the pieces and post it
> here.
> I am not sure if the book is still available in
> Toronto with Roque Barretto. I had arranged with
> Frank's daughter in California to send two dozen
> copies. As usual, Goans were not interested in buying.
> Talk of Goan identity... ha, ha.
>
> Eugene


-- 
Roland Francis
416-453-3371


[Goanet] " LAND" -- A Delhi Past , A Goa Prologue.

2008-03-30 Thread eric pinto
>From  " The Idea Of Delhi ", by  Romi Khosla. The book is from Marg 
>Publications, Army and Navy, Esplanade, Bombay, a nice office/outlet to visit.
   
It had become evident to the nation's leaders that to enable equitable 
access to urban facities, the State would have to play a very substantial role 
in restraining speculative interests. Land was percieved as a resource to be 
controlled in order to ensure equitable development, with guidelines laid down 
by a Master Plan. The plan called for 60,000 acres to be acquired and made 
available " in adequate quanties, at the right times and at reasonable prices 
to both public authorities and individuals ".
Paradoxically, however, the very organizational characteristics of Nehru's 
Congress party undermined the effective omplementation of any redistributive 
policies pursued through institutional channels. A reform minded party had a 
structure that relied solely on established local leaders - dominant landlords, 
merchants and businessmen - to organise mass support. This tendency helped 
preserve and strenghten established patterns of dominance. Their power resulted 
in reform policy having very little effect.
The Delhi Development Authority  largely ignored its public housing 
programme in the initial few  years. A new spawned system of patronage 
infiltrated the system of planning and resource allocation. Politicians as 
patrons were able to offer concrete benefits in exchange for electoral support, 
thus building up large vote banks. The  110 unauthorized colonies that existed 
in 1962 had increased to 470 by 1980, and occupied 3000 hectares - a third of 
the area meant for Master Plan  housing. 
 The politicization of the bureaucracy and key institutions effectively 
subverted the formal processes of planning and asset allocation. With policies 
aimed at ensuring political returns, only, rather than the beneficail 
development of the city itself, Delhi has increasingly been used as an element 
of political capital making.


   
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Re: [Goanet] Goanet Digest, Vol 3, Issue 357

2008-03-30 Thread Livia/Jorge de Abreu Noronha

Dear John,

Please don't torture yourself. Look at the other face of the coin.

Remember, "There is so much good in the worst of us,
And so much bad in the best of us,
That it hardly behooves any of us
To talk about the rest of us. "
Edward Wallis Hoch, Marion (Kansas) Record
(1849 - 1925) .

Your uncle's name was Anibal and I remember him as a Policeman. I don't know 
if he was also a member of PIDE.
When I was studying at Fatima Convent I used to see him at the Police 
Quarters, in his room situated at the right corner of the building. He 
appeared to be a pleasant man, and always wished us with a smiling face.


When I went back to Goa in October 1964, having left Goa in 1959, theres was 
some political unrest, I remember, because there was some deflagration of 
bombs and a rumour that Casimiro Monteiro was down in Goa. He had even 
stayed in Curtorim, with the family I know well. I remember aa woman telling 
me that she had even drawn water from the well for him to have a bath by the 
well and he had CM tatooed on his chest. I wonder how far this is true but 
holding a Portuguese Passport then did mean that we were under special 
vigilance. But we were not worried and moved freely around because we 
followed the saying "Quem nao deve nao teme".


So as said Shakespeare..."to thine own self be true,
And it must follow, as the night the day,"

Regards - Livia








Message: 5
Date: Sun, 30 Mar 2008 12:41:33 +0100 (BST)
From: JOHN MONTEIRO <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [Goanet] Agente Casimiro Emerito Teles Jordao Monteiro
WAS my father.

Dear Eugene

 Thank you for the posting, it was nice to read differing stories, 
majority are coming to me in private emails, but there are two things that 
jut out for me, one is that he brought his work home & used us as his 
target practice by the very way in which he behaved when he was home, 
which was thankfully not very often.  I say this now, but of course as a 
child, one is always asking, then stops asking after a while, its easier 
on the mind.


 Secondly he did not have to enjoy the job as much as he obviously did, 
carrying out the atrocities with much gusto, that is equally evil, no 
matter what, he may have been a man of his time but he was not a nice 
person, in sense of the word, my mother suffered at his hands, that is 
enough for any child to put aside any thoughts of a lovely, kind father 




 Best wishes
 John




[Goanet] Mother On Scarlett - In Her Own Words

2008-03-30 Thread Goanet News
http://news.sky.com/skynews/article/0,,3-1310763,00.html

Mother On Scarlett - In Her Own Words
Fiona MacKeown's Letter To You
Updated:15:28, Friday March 28, 2008
On the day Scarlett Keeling's body begins its long journey home, her
mother, Fiona MacKeown, has talked openly to Sky News about the murder
of her 15-year-old daughter and the criticism fired at her from the
UK.
Fiona MacKeown

She is offering Sky News Online readers the chance to comment to her
direct and has promised to reply to as many of you as possible.

Read Ms MacKeown, in her own words, and then post your comment to her:

I won't feel as though I have succeeded until I get the police to
agree to an independent inquiry.

I won't be able to relax until then. I won't feel happy until that
inquiry. I still feel there has been a cover-up and the independent
inquiry is the only way of getting to the truth.

The people from the Central Office of Investigation (CBI) won't take
bribes from anybody. They aren't related to anybody here (in Goa).

The guys here have been involved with each other for years and there
are all sorts of ties, family ties, business ties, all sorts.
Advertisement
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I feel like I am making tiny steps forward but I am really suspicious
about what the police are saying. I think if I went home and just
didn't come back, the CBI inquiry would just be washed away and the
whole thing - Scarlett's murder, her rape - would be forgotten.

I do have worries about leaving Goa even for a short period. I'd love
to see the whole thing through but I miss my children. They need me
and I need them and I have to go back to England.

I want to come back to Goa to follow it through but I will make it as
short as possible. I will find it difficult to pay for all of this but
I am prepared to sell my ponies and my livestock, even the family pets
to pay for it.

I haven't been in Britain but I have been really upset about what some
people have been saying about me. I stopped reading the papers because
so much of it wasn't true.

None of them know me and they were making comments about me which
weren't based on fact.
Scarlett's body begins journey home

A couple of times I have been really angry because it is so irrelevant
to the case. I find it really upsetting when they print things like:
'How could she leave her daughter alone for weeks on end in the middle
of Goa?' I didn't do that, but people don't seem to accept that.

Right from having my children I have been criticised: 'You shouldn't
have so many children,' they said.

People even suggested I should have abortions when I was pregnant and
I was on my own but I decided I could manage and I don't regret it.

I wouldn't change what I have, not for anything. I really believe life
gives you what you are meant to have. I couldn't live with myself
after having an abortion but that's my choice.

I don't condemn other people for making their choices and I don't
understand why they feel they have to pass judgement on me.

I sort of understand why people criticise me because they must be
unhappy with themselves. When people put others down it's usually to
make themselves feel better.
Scarlett was raped and murdered

When people say: 'She should have her other children taken away, she
was responsible for Scarlett's death', that does hurt.

I wouldn't be normal if I didn't feel upset. But this is from people
who don't even know me. If one of my best friends said it, I would be
heartbroken but these people don't even know me.

I try not to defend myself all the time, because I think 'What is the
point?' It just takes up so much energy when I need it for other
things which are more important, like fighting for justice for
Scarlett.

I don't want Scarlett's death to be treated like it was nothing. It
was a hideous, serious thing which happened to her and by trying to
cover it up they are saying her life was worthless.

If I just went away it would be like I was agreeing with them. If I
could stop it happening to someone else, it would make it worth it.
Teenager's body found on a beach

The beaches in Goa felt like a safe place to be when we first arrived
but they weren't. If I could make the Goan government make the beaches
safer then it would feel like some good had come out of something so
horrible.

I don't like the normal standard of education in Britain. I think it's
too rigid and they don't allow the children to be individual. That's
why I moved to Devon.

The first school I moved the kids to when we moved to Devon was a
nice, tiny school with about 25 kids in each class as opposed to 40
previously.

But I have taken the children out at certain times when they were
unhappy going to school. They would complain about being shouted at
because they weren't wearing the right clothes for instance.

I didn't just wrench them out straight away. I went to the school and
had meetings with the head and explained it to him and they just
didn't take me seriously.
Fiona MacKeown
Ms MacKeown wants 

[Goanet] Lui’s shack vanishes NCW examining gro unds for probe

2008-03-30 Thread Goanet News
http://oheraldo.in/pagedetails.asp?nid=1819&cid=2

Lui's shack vanishes NCW examining grounds for probe
BY HERALD REPORTER

PANJIM, MARCH 29 - As was the mystery with Scarlet Keeling's death at
Anjuna on February 18, so is the mystery behind the missing Lui's
shack in Anjuna beach where the British teenager spent her final
hours.

Press persons and National Commission for Women (NCW) members were in
for a rude shock on Saturday when they found that the shack had been
demolished. Nirmala Venkatesh of NCW later took up the issue with
Inspector General of Police, Kishan Kumar in a meeting late evening.

Speaking to Herald Kumar said the demolition of the shack was a
serious matter as it was a piece of evidence where Scarlet spent her
final moments. Witnesses have said the British teenager was sexually
assaulted behind the shack.
The IGP said the police were not aware that the shack had been
demolished. I came to know of it today when the NCW members told me,
Kumar said and added, "We will question the owner to find out about
the demolition."

Meanwhile, the National Commission for Women (NCW) is prima facie
exploring whether there are enough grounds for a full-fledged probe
into the mysterious death of Scarlet Keeling, said advocate Vikram
Verma.

Verma, who is representing the Keelings, informed that two members of
the Commission - Nirmala Venkatesh and advocate Sweety Sood had a
meeting with the British teenager's mother, Fiona Mackeown, in
Porvorim today.

After the hour-long meeting, the NCW members along with Fiona visited
Anjuna beach, where Scarlet's body was found, to verify the scene of
the crime.

Venkatesh said Mackeown needed support from NCW and Sunday they would
be flying back to Delhi where they will highlight the issue in the
national press and if required they will approach the international
media. In four days time we will present the case before the Union
home minister.

Venkatesh said she was in Goa because investigation by the police into
Scarlet's death wasn't on the right track. She spent almost an hour in
Anjuna where along with local media persons around four to five
British journalists were also present.

The last phase of the NCW members' was a meeting with Inspector
General of Police Kishan Kumar, SP North Bosco George and PI Braz
Menezes.


[Goanet] PBC tighten screws on Roshanlal

2008-03-30 Thread Sandeep Heble
HERALD SPORTS REPORTER

PANJIM, MARCH 29 – The Panjim Badminton Club turned the screws on
Roshanlal Nahar in their "coach hatao" movement after they alleged the
coach had submitted fraudulent bills during his time as the Sports
Authority of India Administrator in Goa.

PBC joint secretary Sandeep Heble said at a press briefing today that
Roshanlal Nahar had tried to misuse money when SAI Director had come
down for his daughters marriage.

"The SAI Director (Gandhinagar) had come down to Goa for Roshanlal's
daughters marriage, but he sought refund of the officials' taxi and
accommodation bills. This is a clear fraud," Heble fumed during the
press conference.

PBC officials later produced documents – including objections from the
Joint Director of Accounts – that seemed to substantiate the
misappropriation claims.
"We've got to know that there are many such misappropriations that
have gone unreported for the past 30 years. It's a big fraud," PBC
officials claimed.

Apart from the misappropriation claims, PBC officials also claimed
Roshanlal's appointment as coach by the Sports Authority of Goa –
after completion of service from the Sports Authority of India – was
against Supreme Court guidelines.
"The SAG created a new post and bypassed rules just for the purpose of
one person. Roshanlal's appointment by the SAG is against the service
rules," Heble told reporters."We have spoken to legal experts and will
serve a legal notice on the SAG in the next couple of days" revealed
Heble.

The Panjim Badminton Club has also submitted a memorandum to Chief
Minister Digambar Kamat and have sought an enquiry into the matter.
PBC officials have now confirmed an appointment with the Chief
Minister – a former Goa Badminton Association president and a keen
badminton enthusiast — on Monday, March 31.

Heble also claimed Roshanlal spent less time in training junior
players than playing with Governor S C Jamir in the evenings, at
Indoor Stadium, Campal.
PBC officials said they have procured the signatures from more than 40
badminton enthusiasts who want a new coach at Indoor Stadium, Campal.

Panjim Badminton Club president Shashant Naik and Goa badminton
champion Govind Navelkar was also present for the press briefing.

Link
http://oheraldo.in/pagedetails.asp?nid=1802&cid=4


Re: [Goanet] [Goa Research Net] Re: Agente Monteiro...

2008-03-30 Thread JOHN MONTEIRO
Dear Sonia
   
  Many thanks for the help, I am conversing now in private emails only, as 
advised by several Goanetters, I would like some help in translating some 
items, even from Konkani when we have the full results of everyone's hard work 
and the efforts they are putting into this research.
   
  You can email me any time after today & we will take this to the next level, 
thank you again.
   
  Best wishes
  John

sonia gomes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
  Dear John,

Now that your research is at full swing, I hope all
goes well. My portuguese is quite good, I will
translate for you any material that you would like to
be translated. You can scan and send the material or
even the link to a particular site. I will do my best.

Warm wishes

Sonia do Rosario Gomes


--- Roland Francis wrote:

> Dear John,
> 
> Alas I have to give you some not so happy news. On
> further googling
> through, I notice that Agente Monteiro's full name
> was Casimiro
> Emérito Rosa Teles Jordão Monteiro. Since you
> mentioned that your
> father also had the names Teles and Jordao besides
> Casimiro, this
> cannot be co-incidental.
> 
> Please see:
>
http://search.yahoo.com/search?p=Casimiro+Monteiro+PIDE&fr=yie7c
> 
> Apparently CM as an inspector in PIDE reported to
> Rosa Casaco and
> under his orders was the actual shooter of General
> Humberto Delgado
> and his Brazilian secretary. For a history of
> Delgado, see Wikipedia.
> 
> There is much written about CM in the link above. If
> you need to
> translate the Portuguese into English, I can help
> you with the aid of
> Babelfish and the little Portuguese I know to put it
> into decent
> understandable English. However, I hope you can get
> a better
> translator to do this for you.
> 
> As Frederick mentioned, you are not responsible for
> your father's
> actions and I commend you heartily for trying to put
> the ghosts of
> your past to rest.
> 
> Roland.
> Toronto
> 416-453-3371
> 
> On Sat, Mar 29, 2008 at 4:59 AM, Teotonio R. de
> Souza
> wrote:
> 
> > I have submitted the info supplied by JM about
> himself to the best
> > expert we have today about PIDE in Portugal. As
> soon as I get some
> > feedback I shall get back on this issue.
> > Teotonio R. de Souza
> >
> > --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED],
> "Frederick [FN] Noronha *
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > Remember Agente Monteiro, the brutal figure in
> Goan history and the
> > > anti-colonial campaign in particular? An
> interesting debate has come
> > > up on Goanet, with the participation of someone
> who believes he
> > might
> > > be the son of Agente Monteiro. Please check the
> debates here... if
> > > true, it could fill in some gaps in the history
> of Goa as we
> > > understand it:
> 



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Re: [Goanet] My apologies!

2008-03-30 Thread JOHN MONTEIRO
Hi Sonia
   
  I am so very sorry if you thought I was being critical of what you had 
suggested.  I am not in the least bit put off in what you said, I accepted it 
with good grace, I understood what you meant & believed that you are correct in 
saying what you did, but I think it will take more than this for me to forget, 
its been half a century since I last saw daddy.
   
  Finding Relatives.. why is it such a complex thing, finding a 
long-lost daddy, and the circumstances surrounding his life in Goa (amongst 
other places we have yet to receive confirmation from), so I am pulling the 
plug on any further discussions of daddy on this forum.
   
  I dont wish to take my personal life any further on the forum, nor draw this 
out any further than it has already been, more for the sake of the sanity of 
the Goanetters who have other posts to put on this forum, and right now, there 
are several discussions which merit higher priority.
   
  I am however accepting, replying to them & all very interesting posts so its 
not all over, not by a long chalk.
   
  Best wishes
  John
---
sonia gomes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Dear John, The reason that Bernardo and 
I wanted you to give up this quest was to avoid you getting hurt, that is all.
I wish you all the best, sometimes one needs to put these demons behind us.Warm 
wishes Sonia 
---




Re: [Goanet] Casmiro Monteiro

2008-03-30 Thread Roland Francis
Sonia, speak for yourself and your own nobel intention if any.

Bernardo's aim was clearly to avoid Goa's Portuguese past eating crow.
He is fanatically and rabidly a supporter of the colonial regime. For
him, India can do no right.

Roland.

On Sun, Mar 30, 2008 at 2:22 AM, sonia gomes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Dear John,
> The reason that Bernardo and I wanted you to give up
> this quest was to avoid you getting hurt, that is all.
> I wish you all the best, sometimes one needs to put
> these demons behind us.
>
> Warm wishes
>
> Sonia


[Goanet] Goa for sale... (Herald Mirror)

2008-03-30 Thread Goanet News
GOA FOR SALE

--

Goa was on sale recently, at
the Goa Property Show organised
by Magicbricks.com, a company
belonging to India's largest
newspaper, The Times of India,
at New Delhi, on 15 and 16
March. It was a painful sight
to see real estate developers,
many based in New Delhi and one
even in Kanpur, who are putting
up huge luxury housing projects
in Goa's little villages --
houses that the Goan middle
class will never be able to
afford -- says Navendu Shirali,
an IT consultant based in
Bangalore, who just happened to
be in the national capital at
the time.

--

[SOURCE: Herald March 30, 2008 | Herald Mirror]

It was sheer destiny that took me to the Goa Property Show
organised by Megabricks.com (run by Times Business Solutions
Ltd, a company belonging to India's largest newspaper, The
Times of India) at Tivolli Gardens, New Delhi, on 15 and 16
March, 2008.

I am not sure about the expectations of the real estate
developers who had paid very handsome amounts to this Times
of India venture for their stalls. Shockingly, the first day
saw a very low turnout, with less than 300 viewers
registered.

Even more shockingly -- for me, that is -- most of the real
estate developers were based in New Delhi and the National
Capital Region (NCR), one was even from Kanpur.

All of them were showing images and videos of ready-to-move
properties, and hawking dream homes to the affluent
'Delhi-ites'. Typical sales promises such as, "When do you
plan to visit Goa next? Just give me a call and we will pick
you up at the airport and take you to the site," rolled
readily off the practiced lips of the sales staffers.

Some of the developers who had their stalls at the Times of
India show were Acron, Line Property Developers, Chowgule
Real Estate & Constructions, Integriti Real Estate
Developers, Nirvana Nest Buildcom, Jai Bhuvan Builders,
Rivera Construction, Tarika Lifestyle, Bullion Limited,
Expanse India Buildcon, Geo Realtors, Gold Touch Developers &
Promoters, Decolive Reality Developers, Le Gardenia, Akar
Creations, Property Management Group and Heritage Real Estate
Developers.

It was sad to see so many young Goans who were manning these
stalls selling potential buyers how 'easy' it is to get a
'home near the sea'. It was painful to see many of these
sales representatives and the developers themselves grossly
mispronouncing the names of almost all the places in Goa
where they had development plans.

It just made me realise just how easy it is to buy, develop
and sell properties in Goa for anyone, even those who know
next to nothing about the name of the place, its culture or
its people.

One stall named Goodwill, operated by young Goans, told those
who showed interest how they could get any kind of property
-- from plots facing a beach to hillside bungalows with a
great view of the sea. "Just send me your requirements and
give me few weeks to get back with various options," were teh
young salesman's words.

Another painful sight was the selling of plots and apartments
in the serene and sylvan side of Goa, like in:

* Assagao, by Expanse Buildcon and the Delhi-based Decolive

* Near Nagoa Church, where the Kanpur-based Geo Realtors has
  a project.

* Arpora, where Riviera Constructions has a project called
  Foothills and Integriti Developers is setting up 'Aldeia
  Miraflor'.

* Vagator, Aldona, Bogmalo and Anjuna, all with projects by
  the Delhi-based Nirvana Nest.

* Paithona, Bardez, where the Chowgule Real Estate is
  building apartments complexes called Meadows.

But Goans don't like it when people put their motherland on
sale, and to balance the might of the Times of India's much
hyped Goa Real Estate Show was an unnamed Goan who, standing
outside the exhibition area, was distributing pamphlets with
'Save Goa' printed on them, spreading awareness among the
visitors and buyers and warning them to be extra cautious
when anyone promises them a home near the sea, as it could
violate the Coastal Zone Regulations, and also beware of
houses on hills, as they could be in breach of the
hill-cutting rules in the Town & Country Planning Act.

The pamphlet that this long ranger was handing out said:
"Unprecedented demand in real estate is killing Goa's natural
beauty, where once existed serene beaches is now filled with
concrete cement and high walls."

Going a step further, he urged them to control their
aspirations and profit motives to preserve a better Goa for
the next generation.

There seemed to be great interest in the audience at the
Times of India show to know about the feelings of the locals
in Goa. He mentioned that just as the real estate lobby was
doing their job -- selling Goa -- he was doing his; of
listening to his inner voice and spreading awareness about
the socio-cultural and environmental impact of these affluent
projects.

There were more surprises at this Times of India event. A
Delhi-based real estate developer -- GoldTouch -- advertised
plans to start a complex of 70 flats in five-storeyed
apartment

[Goanet] A Difficult Judgment

2008-03-30 Thread Sachin Phadte

I do not know if the temple refered is one from Goa, but I am sure members on 
this list will enjoy this little 'story'.

Sachin Phadte



A Difficult Judgment

In a small town in India, a person decided to open up a Bar, which was right 
opposite to a Temple. The Temple & its congregation started a campaign to block 
the Bar from opening with petitions and prayed daily against his business.

Work progressed However, when it was almost complete and was about to open 
a few days later, a strong lightning struck the Bar and it was burnt to the 
ground.

The temple folks were rather smug in their outlook after that, till the Bar 
owner sued the Temple authorities on the grounds that the Temple through its 
congregation & prayers was ultimately responsible for the ill fate of his dream 
project, either through direct or indirect actions or means.

In its reply to the court, the temple vehemently denied all responsibility or 
any connection that their prayers were reasons to the bar's burning down. As 
the case made its way into court, the judge looked over the paperwork at the 
hearing and commented:

"I don't know how I'm going to decide this case, but it appears from the 
paperwork, we have a bar owner who believes in the power of prayer and we have 
an entire temple and its devotees that doesn't."



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[Goanet] Congratulations to the community service leadership awardees from Gulf countries

2008-03-30 Thread Goa's Pride www.goa-world.com
 
   
  Panaji, March 29/The Navhind Times Press Report
   
  The Union Minister for Overseas Indian Affairs, Mr Vayalar Ravi today 
announced that there would be an Indian centre in Dubai soon to provide legal, 
medical and financial counselling services to the Indian expatriates in the 
Gulf.
   
  Speaking at the conference on the Indian expatriates in Gulf countries held 
at a city hotel and organised by the office of the Commission for NRI Affairs, 
Mr Ravi said that his ministry has established an Overseas Indian Facilitation 
Centre as a not-for-profit trust in partnership with Confederation of Indian 
Industry and it would be a one-stop shop for the diaspora seeking to invest in 
India and facilitate business and business partnerships by providing reliable 
and real-time information.
   
  He said to make higher education accessible to the children of overseas 
Indians his ministry has launched a scholarship scheme in 2006-07 in which 100 
scholarship are provided each year to children of expatriates to undertake 
undergraduate courses in different disciplines in the country.
  Favouring an amendment to the Emigration Act, the Union minister informed 
that the amendment was on the cards. He said that this amendment was needed as 
the act was getting outdated now.
   
  Lauding the role played by NRIs in the development of their country, the 
Union Minister for Overseas Indian Affairs promised to do everything in his 
power to help streamline immigration procedures and look after the interests of 
the Indian expatriates all over the world.
  He informed that his ministry is proactive in streamlining procedures to make 
them simple and was going for e-governance in emigration to make it simple, 
quick, effective, transparent and accountable by linking stakeholders on common 
platform.
  Dwelling upon on the works his ministry had done for the expatriate 
community, he promised that as a minister he would keep a check on and 
prosecute the agents who exploit the people, especially from the semi-skilled 
pool of workers, and help those agents who help the people.
   
   Also present were for the conference the Chief Minister, Mr Digambar Kamat, 
the NRI commissioner, Mr Eduardo Faleiro secretary, NRI affairs, Mr K S Singh, 
the chairman of the Oversees Employment Agency of Goa, and the director of NRI 
Affairs, Mr UD Kamat.
  Mr Kamat appreciated the efforts of the NRI affairs department in creating an 
environment for expatriates to come back and invest in the state and pledged 
his support to the NRIs.
  He informed the government would send an award winning Mando troupe at the 
Mando festival in the Gulf.
  Mr Faleiro lauded the efforts of the Union government to regulate recruitment 
of our labour abroad so as to provide our workers with higher wages and 
improved working conditions as has already been done by several other 
countries. He said many of the problems troubling our workers abroad are 
created by recruiting agents in India itself.
   
  Community service leadership awards were presented to Mr Pedro Aulona Renato 
Correia, Mr Gabriel Crasto, Mr Alfred Loyola DSouza (Bahrain), Dr Jaganath 
Ramnath Chodankar, Mr Alex Wilson Coelho, Mr Damiao Cosme Carmo Santos 
(Kuwait), Dr Mario Carmo de Souza and Mr Celso Vincent Andre Fernandes (Oman), 
Mr Simon Xavier D'Silva (Qatar), Mr Ramnath Arjuna Mavlingcar (UAE), Mr Rockson 
Rufus Rodrigues (Dubai) and Ms Suman Anand Kurade (Delhi).
   
  _
  Additional input: 
  All Photos courtesy: Godfrey Gonsalves 
   
  Also read: 
  In a brief two hour function "CONFERENCE ON INDIAN EXPARTRIATES IN THE GULF 
COUNTRIES" held at the Convention Hall, Hotel Mandovi, Panaji this afternoon, 
the Union Minister of Overseas Indian Affairs Shri Vayalar Ravi
informed the gathering of NRG who had come from places in the Gulf countries 
that his nascent ministry had made upteen changes to ensure that NRI's world 
over do not face hardships either by recruiting agents, need for Emigration 
Clearance etc etc.

He made a specific mention that during the financial crisis that the country
faced in 1990-91 where India had to pledge her gold the Prime Minister Dr
Manmohan Singh who was then the Finance Minister looked upon the Gulf
remittances as a measure to ward off the crisis.

It is for this reason the Prime Minister Dr. Singh salutes the hard work of the
Gulf workers a large chunk which constitute mainly skilled and unskilled
workers, has extended full support of the UPA Government to redeem the problems
of the Gulf expartriates.

He spoke of the memorandum of understanding signed by various countries to
ensure women workers do not suffer. He has introduced a Helpline and toll free
numbers, so that women who proceed to the Gulf would learn about the genuineness
of the recruiting agents. He has also introduced the concept of minimum wages
are in the range of S300 to S350 and directed that the Embassies should endorse
the employment contents. He has also p

Re: [Goanet] Goa: Govt bans foreigners from buying land

2008-03-30 Thread frances wright
what about those foreigners who have brought properties legally with the 
proper documents i/e x visas (you have never been able to buy on a tourists 
visa!!


we are being penalised for doing everything correct and now the goverment 
wants us out we still cannot sell even to an indian


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Re: [Goanet] Film Release: Ghutt

2008-03-30 Thread Carneiro, Herman

From where can I download this movie



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Re: [Goanet] After days of bad press, Goa back in a festive mood

2008-03-30 Thread JOHN MONTEIRO
Hi Avelino,
   
  How I agree with you, so much so that I was looking for something to bring me 
back to 2008 and a bit of respite, I was looking forward to this, oh dear, the 
link is not live, it does not exist or the server cannot find it.  What a 
shame, perhaps you can look at the address again & repost?
   
  John Monteiro
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"D'Souza, Avelino" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote.  After days of bad press, Goa 
back in a festive mood Goa: After many days of bad press, Goa was back in a 
festive mood with
the famous Shigmo festival, which depicts the state's folk culture. 
 
  
http://www.ibnlive.com/news/after-days-of-bad-press-goa-back-in-a-festiv
e-mood/62269-3.html

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Re: [Goanet] [Goanet-News] Re Goa news for March 28, 2008

2008-03-30 Thread Georgina Fernandes
Dear Mr. Navelkar,

You are right! As Goans we are always fighting and the only that we should
fight for (GOA) is what we are not fighting.  It is our Goans who prefer
selling plots / property to foreigners than NRI Goans because they get more
from them than us.
We need do something and fast.  What can I do to help?


On 3/28/08, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Dear All Goans,
>   We are fighting on net on various issues, we are fighting
> with the neighbours at home,we are fighting on languages, we are fighting on
> road, we are fighting all along our day in day out in Goa, for Goa, with
> Goans for Goans against Goans.And in Goa we are eliminating ourself very
> fast that we will put rabbits to shame on their multiplication abilities
> with speed and we see all over Goa migrants(illegally occupying spaces for
> living)multiplying their business( again illegally occupying areas) are
> comming as SUNAMIS. wake up Goans these elected representatives get elected
> on ur vote and rule u to give all thehelping hands to all these migrants to
> establish their rights in Goa as HGoans.
> utt Goenkara
> Amol Navelkar
> Original Message ---
> Goa News from Google News and Goanet.org
> Visit http://www.goanet.org/newslinks.php for the full stories.
>
> *** Scarlett\'s body brought to Mumbai from Goa - Hindustan
> Times
> [5 hours ago]  PTI Slain British teenage girl Scarlett Eden
> Keeling's body was brought to Mumbai from Goa on Thursday
> evening, more than a month after she was found dead ...
>
> http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=T&ct=us/0-0&fd=R&url=http://www.hindustantimes.com/redir.aspx?ID=5df94265-d774-4949-9fb2-0e35df0fdef1&cid=1144694000&ei=-i3sR8fCJJq4qwPKhNHBBA&usg=AFrqEzdrrzescOGQU3BHEiB3y998mtPL2w
>
> *** Goa government drops trust motion on Speaker - Hindu
> [4 hours ago]  PANAJI: The Goa government on Thursday beat a
> retreat and refrained from tabling a motion expressing
> confidence of the House in Pratapsingh Rane as Speaker ...
>
> http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=T&ct=us/1-0&fd=R&url=http://www.hindu.com/2008/03/28/stories/2008032854991300.htm&cid=1146355640&ei=-i3sR8fCJJq4qwPKhNHBBA&usg=AFrqEzdnaS-EkNYX5R3jPGfUkXcM0oYX2g
>
> *** Goa Property Show attracts 3000 home seekers - Times of
> India
> [Mar 26, 2008]  1 property site, conducted the Goa Property
> Show ˜Delhi 2008 it had a strong 3000 home seekers
> thronging the two-day event. The event was inaugurated by ...
>
> http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=T&ct=us/3-0&fd=R&url=http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/Goa_Property_Show_attracts_3000_home_seekers/articleshow/2902449.cms&cid=1146035251&ei=-i3sR8fCJJq4qwPKhNHBBA&usg=AFrqEzd3j_eLSAw1u2DTvP8ri9qG_W-THg
>
> *** Mitsubishi Pajero SFX launched in Goa - Navhind Times
> [3 hours ago]  The all new Mitsubishi Pajero SFX was today
> launched in Goa by the Minister of Transport, Mr Sudin Dhavlikar
> in Auto Service. The first vehicle was also ...
>
> http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=T&ct=us/9-0&fd=R&url=http://www.navhindtimes.com/articles.php?Story_ID=032832&cid=0&ei=-i3sR8fCJJq4qwPKhNHBBA&usg=AFrqEzcMJOS0HugYofxRLSX1pgofPABMxg
>
> *** Bharti AXA Life Insurance launches operations in Goa -
> Navhind Times
> [3 hours ago]  Speaking at the launch, the chief distribution
> and marketing officer of Bharti AXA Life Insurance,Mr Shyamal
> Saxena said, published data reveals that Goa ...
>
> http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=T&ct=us/8-0&fd=R&url=http://www.navhindtimes.com/articles.php?Story_ID=032831&cid=0&ei=-i3sR8fCJJq4qwPKhNHBBA&usg=AFrqEzeHZBCRJIcinjc2z3OI1l3edIVt7Q
>
> *** Jotun to strengthen presence in Goa - Navhind Times
> [3 hours ago]  Commenting on the company€„¢s plans
> for Goa, the general manager, decorative, Mr Percy Jijina, said,
> ہWe have closely assessed the Indian paint sector ...
>
> http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=T&ct=us/7-0&fd=R&url=http://www.navhindtimes.com/articles.php?Story_ID=032828&cid=0&ei=-i3sR8fCJJq4qwPKhNHBBA&usg=AFrqEzd0dW0cZnYtXYvu0Qki57XqcfHK6w
>
> *** Goan with the Wind - MorungExpress
> [8 hours ago]  The Goa portrait had a couple at a church
> wedding in bridal finery: the lady in a flowing gown, her
> partner in a jacket and tie. The publication sparked off ...
>
> http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=T&ct=us/6-0&fd=R&url=http://www.morungexpress.com/index.php?news=4772&cid=0&ei=-i3sR8fCJJq4qwPKhNHBBA&usg=AFrqEzecBTw6nSIUyAB_O1NRgS_Q0fYWZg
>
> *** Rahejas challenge Goa govts order to scrap SEZ - Economic
> Times
> [26 minutes ago]  PANAJI: Real estate major K Raheja has
> challenged the Goa governments decision to scrap the approved
> SEZ before the Bombay High Court. ...
>
> http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=T&ct=us/5-0&fd=R&url=http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/Markets/Real_Estate/Rahejas_challenge_Goa_govts_order_to_scrap_SEZ/articleshow/2905626.cms&cid=0&ei=-i3sR8fCJJq4qwPKhNHBBA&usg=AFrqEzejPuzRFqarkChTSb2fIxkduDUWpw
>
> *** Liquor to cost more in Goa - Economic Times
> [Mar 26, 2008]  Consumption o

Re: [Goanet] Casmiro Monteiro

2008-03-30 Thread sonia gomes
Dear John,

The reason that Bernardo and I wanted you to give up
this quest was to avoid you getting hurt, that is all.
I wish you all the best, sometimes one needs to put
these demons behind us.

Warm wishes

Sonia 
--- JOHN MONTEIRO <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Dear Sonia & Bernado
>
>   I half-agree with you both but as I said
> previously to both of you, I am not in the exact
> same mind-frame. This is for several reasons, but
> the main two are a) he was my long-lost father & b)
> if he was who we think he is, we ought to be able to
> fill in some of the missing gaps for the relatives
> of his victims & let them know what sort of person
> he really was, to his own immediate family & how
> they treated my family when we were in Goa.
>
>   Other reasons come to mind but probably not
> printable here, in most ways this demon of a man
> should be now a humilated in public & if there is
> any justice in the world, the Goans who suffered at
> his (and his brother's) hands ought to have the last
> say.  He abused Goans, and my mother & his two sons,
> I think that is enough to have him pilloried from
> here to hell.
>
>   Saying Mass & being ever-so forgiving, that is all
> well and good, and possibly this may happen one day,
> but not just yet, we have to have justice for all
> the Goans of the 1950's (and beyond? anyone
> shed a light on this from post-1961), and for my
> mother who died a broken woman.
>
>   Say a prayer for her, she deserves it more than
> anyone.  Say regular prayers for the souls of the
> departed, for they were forced to leave this world
> by the likes of my father, who used & abused the
> nation of Goa while living and revelling in it, and
> as I said before, the main cause of the suffering in
> my family & the reason I wet the bed every night I
> was reminded of his presence, even when I was not at
> home, but alone & afraid child at Loyola High
> School.
>
>   John Monteiro
>
--
> sonia gomes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote. Yes,
> I feel the same as Bernardo, let Casimiro Monteiro
> be dead and gone and let John not think of him
> anymore, the issue is truly irrelevant and could
> cause only pain. Warm wishes Sonia do Rosario Gomes
> --- 
>  
>
--
>   Bernado Colaco wrote: Recently one Roland Francis
> from Spadina Avenue,Toronto, Canada has invoked the
> memory of Agente Monteiro and has left John Monteiro
> of Berkshire in a quandary as to his parentage. RF
> should spend more time in my opinion on the current
> Monteiro's that Goa has produced and is producing
> since 61. Please do not raise issues of irrelevance.
> CM is dead and gone.BC
>  
>
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> 
> 
> 



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Re: [Goanet] [Goanet-News] Goa: Govt bans foreigners from buying land

2008-03-30 Thread Georgina Fernandes
It is high time the Government of Goa woke up to the fact that *GOA IS FOR
GOANS*
All this time the helped and aided the foreigners  to pruchase property in
Goa, without
their knowledge it would not have been so easy for them.  Better late than
never get the prices down and help Goans to buy property in Goa.

Thanks

On 3/29/08, Goanet News <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
> http://www.ndtv.com/convergence/ndtv/story.aspx?id=NEWEN20080045329&ch=3/29/2008%201:35:00%20AM
>
> Goa: Govt bans foreigners from buying land
>
> Sujoy Gupta
>
> Friday, March 28, 2008 (Mumbai)
> Goa is for Goans, that's the message of the state government, which
> has decided to ban foreigners from buying land for personal purposes.
>
> The government announced this in the state assembly on Friday and also
> passed the Goa Registration Amendment Bill.
>
> The government has also appealed to Goans not to sell land to
> foreigners and preserve their land.
>
> Foreigners can now buy land only for business purposes but only after
> following specific and stringent conditions such as a business visa
> plus an explicit clearance from the RBI.
>
> Now foreigners on tourist visa can not buy land.
>



-- 
GEORGINA


Re: [Goanet] [Goa Research Net] Re: Agente Monteiro...

2008-03-30 Thread sonia gomes
Dear John,

Now that your research is at full swing, I hope all
goes well. My portuguese is quite good, I will
translate for you any material that you would like to
be translated. You can scan and send the material or
even the link to a particular site. I will do my best.

Warm wishes

Sonia do Rosario Gomes


--- Roland Francis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Dear John,
> 
> Alas I have to give you some not so happy news. On
> further googling
> through, I notice that Agente Monteiro's full name
> was Casimiro
> Emérito Rosa Teles Jordão Monteiro. Since you
> mentioned that your
> father also had the names Teles and Jordao besides
> Casimiro, this
> cannot be co-incidental.
> 
> Please see:
>
http://search.yahoo.com/search?p=Casimiro+Monteiro+PIDE&fr=yie7c
> 
> Apparently CM as an inspector in PIDE reported to
> Rosa Casaco and
> under his orders was the actual shooter of General
> Humberto Delgado
> and his Brazilian secretary. For a history of
> Delgado, see Wikipedia.
> 
> There is much written about CM in the link above. If
> you need to
> translate the Portuguese into English, I can help
> you with the aid of
> Babelfish and the little Portuguese I know to put it
> into decent
> understandable English. However, I hope you can get
> a better
> translator to do this for you.
> 
> As Frederick mentioned, you are not responsible for
> your father's
> actions and I commend you heartily for trying to put
> the ghosts of
> your past to rest.
> 
> Roland.
> Toronto
> 416-453-3371
> 
> On Sat, Mar 29, 2008 at 4:59 AM, Teotonio R. de
> Souza
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > I have submitted the info supplied by JM about
> himself to the best
> > expert we have today about PIDE in Portugal. As
> soon as I get some
> > feedback I shall get back on this issue.
> > Teotonio R. de Souza
> >
> > --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED],
> "Frederick [FN] Noronha *
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >
> > > Remember Agente Monteiro, the brutal figure in
> Goan history and the
> > > anti-colonial campaign in particular? An
> interesting debate has come
> > > up on Goanet, with the participation of someone
> who believes he
> > might
> > > be the son of Agente Monteiro. Please check the
> debates here... if
> > > true, it could fill in some gaps in the history
> of Goa as we
> > > understand it:
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Re: [Goanet] Aitaracheo Katkutleo: Kam' Zalem Voiz Melo'

2008-03-30 Thread JOHN MONTEIRO
Dear Goanetter reading this post,
   
  As a non-speaker or reader of Konkani I feel I am missing out on a lot of 
Goan "chit chat" but also the way in which Konkani is spoken often times, if I 
remember a bit of it from my childhood, albeit half a century ago, there were 
some meanings & words that were difficult to transcribe into English, though 
some were easier into Portuguese. I am totally baffled now as an aging old man.
   
  Konkani is not just a spoken & written language, one that is properly 
recognised in the Indian Constitution etc, but for a man reaching his 60's it 
would be so very difficult to re-learn it (but I would give it a try if there 
was a way forward here, by the way  -  some say its just like learning to ride 
a bike again, after an accident, do it quickly or you will not have the nerve 
to do it ever...), so can someone, whatever the subject line, be able 
to take some time out and translate as much as possible any Konkani posters 
into English (pretty please?).
   
  John Monteiro

lino dourado <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
  
Kam’ Zalem, Voiz Melo 

Sumar 4 vorsanchea porak ghevn, bosint bhitor sorlele
ostorek mhaka lagun tras zavnchem nhoi mhonn, hanv
boslelea sita velo uttunk kori tednam, tinnem
mhonnlem..

“Naka, naka. Tras ghevum nakat Mhoje bayek mhagelea
paymer bosoitam.” Ani tinnem, tigele dhuvek. apnnalea
zangddar dovorun, ti sitar bosli.

Tednam hanv 19 vorsancho tornatto. Mhagele eka kama
khatir hanv Moddganv ghel’lom. Mhojea khuxik bosleli
ostori sobit distali, punn tea von tigelem por. 
Mhaka pollet boslelem tem. Mhaka porachi apurbay zali.
Porak mhagelea kakeant ghetlem ani vicharlem.

“Baye, tujem nanv kitem?”

“Uncle…..”, 

“Xhu! Ogi rav. To uncle nhi. Mister.” porak fuddem
ulovnk di nastanam mhaka ‘uncle’ nhoi, punn ‘Mister’
mhonnchem mhonn, dhengxo ghalun porache avoyn porak
sanglem.

“Mister, mhojem nanv Amanda” vicharlelea prosnank
soroll zap dili ani lhan por fuddem boddboddlem
“Mister poi, poi. Bhair poi. Xetant redde zogoddtat” 

“Amanda! Mister-ak chodd sotai naka.” Avoin porak
xiddkailem.

“Asum di. Bhurgem tem.” Mhaka porache tras zainant
mhonn hanv tika sangtanam, bosicho kondaktor ailo ani
tinnem Utorda-Molar ek tikett magoili. Utorda
konnagher vhetat kai? Hanvem mhakach vichar kelo. Punn
tika vicharunk mhaka puttlem nam. Vo dusre bhoxen,
mhaka ‘curiosidade’ (curiosity) nasli. Hanv ani por
khellachea umedir astanam, bos ken’na Utorda-Mollar
pavli ti pasun mhaka zanniv na zali. 

Bos, Utorda-Mollar pavtoch porak ghevn ti ostori
dhenvli ani amche Igorjiche dixen vetelea rostean,
cholunk lagli. Babddem por, fattlean volun ani thambo
nastanam mhaka “mister, mister” mhunnit aslem. Toddea
vellachi bhett amchi. Pora koddsun pois zanvchem,
mhaka khub dukhlem. Hanv bhavnnik (emotional) zalom. 

Ani hanv bosivelo dhevntokoch mhagelo ixtt Wency
gavlo. Dusre sumanant, tagelo ek lokam-khell, Ponnje
Akaxvannicher mudravpache (recording) asle. Tagelea
lokam-khellant mhagelo aspav aslelean tachea sangata
tagelea ghora gelom ani ami tallim vo rehearsal
donparche dhed meren choloilem.

Hanv, amche ghorache sopnnam (stairs) choddtalom.
Bolkavant mhagele sorgest avoychea sangata, mhaka
bosint gavlelim avoy-dhuv dislim. Tim dog-aim, amgher
pavchem kharan mhaka somzolem. Hanv tanchea pattlean
ubo aslelean tannim mhaka pollevnk nam dista, vo
tanchi nodor mhojer poddunk nam. Mhoje avoyn aplea
hatanim, Amandachi bonkachi noddi (anus) ugti keli ani
ti bore toren topaslea uprant tinnem mhonnlem.

“Kitlo vhodd mhonn khatro go ho? Hanga yevnk itle dis
kiteak laile? Duens chodd zalem mhonntoch, tumi
dotorank uloitat. Cheddvak khanddar mar ani ghott
dhor” Amandak khanddar marpak mhoje avoyn tika hukom
dilo ani fatrir dolloilelem zhadd-palleachem vokhod
kaddun agpachea noddin lottlem tedna mhojea islean
pollevn, poran bobo-hueli ghatleo. 

Mhoji sorgest avoi, bhurgeank zhadd-palleachem vo
‘Khatreachem vokhod’ ditali. Lhan bhurgeank, agpache
tras zale mhonntoch, tankam portean-portean pattol
agop zatalem ani bhonkachea purmutteak vo noddik
khatro poddun rogot-bhairem suntalem. Kaim voizam
kodden hem duens borem zainam zatotokoch, xevottak ho
lok mhojea avoyxim yetalo. Koddok pothk-achi
(mandatory diet) bhurgeank, toxech bhurgeanche avoyank
samballunk zata zalear, tednach mhoji sorgest avoy
aplem ghuttachem vokhod ditali. Ani tin disam modim,
bhurgim sap bhorim zatalim vo tanchem rogot-bhairem
bond zatalem. 

Amandache noddik vokhodd ghalun tagelea bendar dovo
kuddko mhoje avoyn bandlo. Amanda, mhaka polloit aslem
ani roddkulea avazan mhonnlem.

“Mummy! Mister.mister………mister” 

“Borem borem. Ogi rav baye. Mister yetolo” Dakhttem
por azun mhoji yad korta oxem Amandachi avoy somzoli.
Ani porachea pattir hat oddit taka fuslayun, roddpache
ogem kortali tednam mhojea avoin tika mhonnlem.

“Ghoddie tujem cheddum, tujea pattlean asleleak
‘mister’ mhonntta astelem”. 

Ani ti soroll pattlean vovli ani tthotakun vicharlem

“Tum hanga?”

“To mhozo tisro put,” mhoje sorgest avoin vollo

[Goanet] Goa at Crossroads - NT PANORAMA [30/3/08] -by : Dr. Wagle & Dr. Kennerkar - COMMENTS

2008-03-30 Thread floriano goasuraj
Goa at crossroads
By Dr. M P Wagle and Dr. P S Kinnerkar
NT Panorama - March 30, 2008

Goa is the most advanced state in the country. This is reflected in its
advancement score of 445 per cent, the highest recorded. Even Delhi lags
behind Goa with a score of 353.4 per cent. Among the districts/cities only
Mumbai with a score of 515.4 per cent surpasses Goa. This may be one of the
reasons why Goa continues to attract a continuous stream of domestic and
foreign tourists. During 2006, while he former crossed a figure of two
million the latter crossed 339 lakh (government of Goa: Economic Survey:
2006-07; P 161).

However, Goa is not free of problems. Problems have been around since the
time Goa got liberated in 1961 with newer ones being added every year. The
condition of the state is fast deteriorate ing as is reflected in its
overcrowded buses, poor and ever depleting seashore, which is occupied by
illegal encroachers, and poor waste management. The presence of the
government in every sphere of life has gradually increased since
independence thereby leaving the state at the mercy of political bigwigs.
Instead of serving the cause of people the political leadership is busy
manipulating the system to its advantage. The frequent  changes in
government clearly manifest the undercurrents. Political turmoil,
uncontrolled executive branch of the government and defunct legislature,
unprecedented government intervention in every walk of life, free or highly
subsidized economic services like health, education, transport , etc,
continue to play havoc with this erstwhile Portuguese colony. Consequently,
the state has been gradually losing  its pivotal position as the most sought
after tourist destination to other states like Himachal Pradesh, Uttranchal
and Kerala.

Besides frequent elections the most blatant problem Goa faces is its
ever-increasing public debt, leading to mounting pressures of repayment and
interest. While public debt increased from Rs. 1011 crores in 1998-99 to Rs
3087 crores by 2004-05 (Table 1), interest burden on the exchequer and thus
the interest  increased from Rs. 144 crores to Rs. 383 crores (2005-06)
during the corresponding period (Table 1)

No government till date has been serious about reducing the loans. Had
government after government been more prudent and conscious in creating
loans in the name of development, the state would have benefited immensely.
Interest saved thereof strengthens current investment thereby accelerating
development. The problem of  repayment of loans would be minimum.

For the majority of the countries, historically, government investments,
subsidies and unrestrained lifestyle of people at the helm of political
affairs have proved to be the greatest threat to the economic stability and
prosperity. Several great countries including that of Russia collapsed for
similar reasons. India had to transfer 67 tonnes of gold to London to obtain
foreign exchange to pay for imports in 1991 owing to drain on foreign
exchange resulting from implied subsidy on imports and hidden tax on exports
inherent in the fixed exchange rate regime. In such a background of dismal
performance by most countries of the world, the United States of America
shines as the only super economic power, owing to minimum government
investment, ownership and subsidy.  Obviously, the USA recorded per capita
income of $3,800 by wide margin (World Bank, 'World Development Report, 2008
') If the state wishes to improve its lifestyle it should take a clue from
the USA. The government of Goa should gradually withdraw subsidies and
reduce its own investment and financial support to private investment. In
respect to both revenue and capital expenditure as per cent of state income
(GSDP), Goa occupies one of the top positions among the states of the
country (Economic survey, Ibid, p 231). Implied economic mismanagement needs
to be overcome immediately. The government should withdraw all popular
schemes including free computers to students. All the loss making state
undertakings may be closed down and their staff absorbed in general
administration.

Yet another problem is the ever-increasing migrant population, which is
estimated to have risen to 2.43 lakhs accounting for about 18 per cent of
the state's population in 2001 (derived from the Census figures).
Consequently, not only has the quality of life deteriorated, but the same
also exerts greater pressures on the exchequer. Unless checked the
unprecedented flow of migrants will increase further.

Similarly, the rapidly falling sex ration (females per 1000 males) should be
considered a most serious threat to the social fabric of Goa (table 2). The
problem is very serious. The Census of 2001 identified several causes for
this fall. The major among them include: neglect of the girl child resulting
in their higher mortality at younger ages, higher maternal mortality, sex
selective abortions and female infanticides (Government of India , 'Census
of India, Series I, I

Re: [Goanet] Agente Casimiro Emerito Teles Jordao Monteiro WAS my father.............

2008-03-30 Thread JOHN MONTEIRO
Dear Eugene
   
  Thank you for the posting, it was nice to read differing stories, majority 
are coming to me in private emails, but there are two things that jut out for 
me, one is that he brought his work home & used us as his target practice by 
the very way in which he behaved when he was home, which was thankfully not 
very often.  I say this now, but of course as a child, one is always asking, 
then stops asking after a while, its easier on the mind.
   
  Secondly he did not have to enjoy the job as much as he obviously did, 
carrying out the atrocities with much gusto, that is equally evil, no matter 
what, he may have been a man of his time but he was not a nice person, in sense 
of the word, my mother suffered at his hands, that is enough for any child to 
put aside any thoughts of a lovely, kind father 
   
   
  Best wishes
  John

Eugene Correia <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
  The Agente Monteiro name conjures up the same images
of the Ranes. Their names were used to frighten
children. Hence, these names have achieved
immortality, not to add notoriety. 
Wasn't Rasputin the most feared man in Russien
history? However, we cannot put Rasputin and Agente
Monteiro in the same league. They differ in both their
political and social approaches.
Agente Monteiro was following orders and, considering
it in the light of Portuguese history, he was doing
nothing wrong. Hitler followed his conscience, just as
George Bush followed wrong advice and attacked Iraq.
Saddam Hussein, another hated man in history, is now
dead and gone. But his image of an evil man remains,
at least in the minds of the American and those who
supported America-led attack into Iraq.
I think Agente Monteiro has been mentioned in Konkani
novels, possibly of Reginald Fernandes. He was no
Robin Hood but he was a "good guy" to the Portuguese
and those Goans who supported Portugal vis-a-vis the
Nationalists.
I had missed Roland's original post, but the Lavra
mentioned is none other than the Darling of the Goan
Liberation, Dr. Laura D'Souza, later wife of Prof.
Lucio Rodrigues. Laura's son lived/lives in Toronto.
I have visited Laura both at her house in Goa, behind
the Tourist Hostel, and in Mumbai, in Colaba. The flat
was given to her by the Maharashtra government, I
think the late Morarji Desai.
Agente Monteiro was a tormentor of Goan nationalists.
It was an expected role from someone recruited or
promoted or assigned the job to harass and create
panic among the nationalists. One heard lot of stories
from Mumbai-based nationalists, most of them now dead.
John should not let the past weigh upon him. Maybe
sometimes the sins of our parents visit us. In John's
case, his father, if at all Agente Monteiro was, need
what was the need of the hour.
Goan nationalism was rising and attaining great
momemtum. The Portuguese had no way to battle it out,
both on the political and social fields. Resorting to
force to put pressure on the nationalist movement was
one sure way to beat back the challenge. Agente
Monteiro was the vehicle. In his role, he became
bigger than life itself. Such is the fate that history
bestows on people at crucial moments.

Eugene



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[Goanet] After days of bad press, Goa back in a festive mood

2008-03-30 Thread D'Souza, Avelino
After days of bad press, Goa back in a festive mood

Goa: After many days of bad press, Goa was back in a festive mood with
the famous Shigmo festival, which depicts the state's folk culture. The
festival is also popularly known as the Carnival. 

"This festival takes us back to our culture. Many tourists come to see
this festival. It's because we don't get to see this in cities and this
culture originates from the villages," Deputy Mayor, Panjim, Yatin
Parekg said.

The five-day long festival also has a religious core. It is the Goan
equivalent of Holi, and is celebrated with a lot of energy. 

"I am really thrilled looking at these folk performances. The enthusiasm
in people is amazing. It's really great to be here," actor Milind Gunaji
said.

The festival is now also supported by the Department of Tourism as
people from different parts of the state perform in groups.

http://www.ibnlive.com/news/after-days-of-bad-press-goa-back-in-a-festiv
e-mood/62269-3.html

~(^^)~

Avelino



[Goanet] Respect Our Right to Identity. (Letters to Goan Local Papers, Overseas Forums & MLA's)

2008-03-30 Thread Arwin Mesquita
*Subject: Respect Our Right to Identity.*

* *

Goans are increasingly opposing Land Sales to Non-Goans. I request Non-Goans
to appreciate our basis. Yes, Goans can buy land in many Indian
states/Western countries. But let's look at this in a bigger perspective; *this
time globally*; I'll take the UK example, just to drive my point.



I read an impressive column recently in the UAE media by a UK government
minister. It was ref. the new UK immigration laws; highlight was while the
UK has to be fair to other countries, at the same time it needed them,
particularly India in the letter, to respect each nations right to protect
its genuine interests.



We appreciate why the UK/Western Countries i.e.
MainGlobalisation/Democratic Free World drivers
enact controls against non-locals. In UK, non-locals can buy land, but
immigration controls ensure that the UK is not open to all. Those
questioning my views from UAE, please note that although locals here are in
minority there are safeguards e.g. No Expatriate Political Rights, No
Citizenship, Restrictive Real Estate Buying laws etc. to ensure that the UAE
remains with its people.



Each community has limits to which non-locals can buy land/emigrate (with
political rights). Goa has way crossed this limit; beyond which we have to
put safeguards; the current rate will make Goans irrelevant & no community
can accept the same for themselves. I'd argue today that Goans are more
tolerant than most other communities. The REAL ISSUE is that GOA HAS NO
CONTROLS ON REAL ESTATE PURCHASES/IMMIGRATION (mostly non local Indians).
For those quoting the constitution (A) Goa had no influence to framing of
the constitution i.e. India acquisition of Goa much later in 1961 (B) Some
states have special provisions; Goa is also an exception; just because we *
"failed"* to get safeguards in 1961, does not right the wrong (C) The
Constitution is not cast in stone and for just basis, should be modified to
protect the people; from which a democratic constitution should have been
driven; not vice-versa!!



I accept criticism that Goans are to be blamed significantly for the issue
because of our actions/in-actions; but also issues of Land Sales to
Non-Goans & Uncontrolled Migration are significant and need to be addressed
urgently. Goans should support your right to your identity/interests,
likewise please respect our right to the same.



*Arwin Mesquita, Abu Dhabi.*


[Goanet] BRING BACK THE CORONER

2008-03-30 Thread Averthan D'Souza
For favour of publication. Averthanus 
  _  


BRING BACK THE CORONER.

 

Averthanus L. D'Souza.

 

The recent trading of accusations in connection with the
suspicious death of the British teenager Scarlet Eden Keeling  whose body
was discovered on the beach at Anjuna has raised many issues - both medical
and legal.   The public discussion in the media, specially in the Press,
indicates the need for a clearer distinction between the many related issues
involved.   The discussion moderated by Ms. Barkha Dutt in the NDTV
programme "We the People" further shows up the need to not confuse the
issues involved.  The NDTV programme has been rightly described as a
"circus"   in which, unfortunately, some eminent  professionals
participated.   The discussions were not focused and the programme left the
viewers wondering what all the "khitchdi" was all about.   Everything under
the sun, from the irresponsible behaviour of Fiona Mackeown, the mother of
the deceased, whose behaviour came in for criticism, to the part that was
played by the local "tour guide" in whose custody the child was left, while
the mother went off to neighbouring Karnataka with her other progeny in tow,
to the  part played by the alleged drug peddlers, came under discussion.  To
cap it all, the programme showed grave insensitivity by calling on a "rock
star" (or whatever) to sing a song about the role of drugs in the tourist
scene in Goa.   How did all these things fit together?   They simply did not
!

In any death that occurs in a public place, there is need to
establish the cause of death to eliminate what is generally termed "foul
play."   A death could be the result of  negligence on the part of the
deceased herself, like in the case of drowning of  a person who ventures
into the sea after consuming alcohol.  Such deaths by drowning are quite
frequent in Goa, and public spirited citizens have been clamouring (for a
long time) for life guards to be posted at all the beaches in Goa which are
frequented by tourists.   This demand has not received the attention that it
deserves, with the result that some citizens have set up their own life
guard posts at some of the beaches.The Government of Goa has shown
little appreciation for this important public service.   If tourism (as an
industry) is officially promoted to lure tourists to the State, it is the
bounden duty of the Government to provide Life Guard services on all the
beaches.After a lot of public outcry, the Department of Tourism finally
posted a few Life Guards at some of the beaches, but these are underpaid and
over-exploited individuals.  They have not been provided with the necessary
equipment which are necessary to perform their tasks effectively.   The
Government relies merely on their expertise as swimmers and their knowledge
of the currents in the dangerous stretches of the beaches.   What is
required is an array of physical infrastructure, including Life Guard Houses
on the beaches equipped with beds for the Lifeguards to rest when not on
duty, kitchenettes for them to have meals, communication equipment
(obviously) and special equipment such as speed-boats and inflatable boats
as well as life-saving gadgets to resuscitate victims of drowning.  Just
posting underpaid individuals as Lifeguards, as the Government has done, is
an insult to the tourists as well as to the citizens of Goa.   Most often,
our newspapers report,   tourists have been saved by local fishermen who
have risked their own lives to help drowning tourists.  These fishermen have
never been compensated by the Government.   

In the event of a suspicious death,  it is the local police that
is  responsible to arrive at a determination  of the cause of death.   The
local police do send the bodies to the Goa Medical College and Hospital for
post mortem examinations, but they still retain the discretion to make the
final determination.   In reality, it is the Police which is the final
arbiter on whether to treat a case as an accident, a death by misadventure
or a murder.As we have seen in the death of Scarlet Eden Keeling, the
mishandling of the case by the Police has tarnished the good name of  the
Head of the Department of Forensic Medicine of the G.M.C. and has  brought
his professional competence under a cloud.   The media, including the
electronic medium, is either unaware of or deliberately ignores the
important distinction between the report of an autopsy and the decision of
the Police to prosecute the case.It is necessary to emphasize that an
autopsy is a purely medical procedure which simply establishes the "physical
cause of death."   An autopsy is not expected to go into the motivations (if
any) or the circumstances surrounding the death of an individual.   Murder,
technically, requires, motive, opportunity and conducive circumstances.   A
death can be treated as murder only if all these conditions can be
established beyond doubt.An autopsy only re

Re: [Goanet] Goa news for March 28, 2008

2008-03-30 Thread Sanjeev Sardesai

Dear Amol,

I am in total support of your views, however I wish to opine for the same 
cause. You do not become a True Goans by the mere fact that you reside in 
Goa (Whether your ancestors resided here or whether you have come and 
settled here) . You do not become Goan by talking about Konkani (some 
foreigners speak it much better than many residents of Goa or Goans), but 
bringing konkani into your homes. You do not qualify to be a Goan just 
because a few high society people have allowed you in their company. You are 
a Goan, only when you know all the people in the vicinity, - not for your 
own selfish motive, but for the reason that we Goans want pure love - to 
accept and to give. You are a Goan, only when you are aware about the 
different facets of geographical Goa. You are a Goan, when you lend a hand 
of assistance - without gains, to your fellow neighbour. You are a Goan, 
when you interact with the folk & cultural abilities of Goa. You are a Goan 
when you can name atleast ten Goan vegetarian & non-vegetarian dishes. Talk, 
talk & more talk - leads us no where. Please build a platform, with us 
alongside you (not behind you), which will allow every person called as a 
Goan - wherever he/she may be.
As of now there seems to be an identity problem, identity of our culture, 
cuisine and our beautiful land in general. Don't call for help. Let us 
create something about Goa which will attract the True Goans, and help them 
to identify themselves.


You people are doing a wonderful job of making people aware. My above 
suggestions are but opinions which I have taken liberty to put pen to.


Sanjeev V Sardesai

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[Goanet] Communicating Disasters: An Asia-Pacific resource book

2008-03-30 Thread Venantius Pinto
This from www.himalmag.com:
http://www.himalmag.com/2008/march/book_shelf.html

Communicating Disasters:
An Asia-Pacific resource book
edited by Nalaka Gunawardene & Frederick Noronha
UNDP/TVE-Asia Pacific, 2007 Communicating Disasters explores the role
of media professionals and their use of information and communication
technologies, particularly following the Indian Ocean tsunami of 2004
and the Kashmir earthquake of 2005. Case studies, incisive analyses
and evocative narratives highlight the challenges of covering
disasters and their aftermath – both immediate and long-term. Tips on
how to literally 'unearth' stories, ethical guidelines on how to
reduce the vulnerability of victims, and the tracing of links between
gender and disaster – all of these potentially dry topics are
presented here in simple, accessible language. Superb photographs also
make up for the somewhat confusing layout and unnecessary appendices.
(Laxmi Murthy)


vjp


[Goanet] FW: MP and Panjim (was Why Manohar Parrikar is not CM today)

2008-03-30 Thread anand virgincar

   Dear Goanetters,
 
   I have been reading Mr Vidyadhar Gadgil's arguments with 
   Rajan with increasing amusement.
   My questions are :
 
   1 ) Mr Gadgil is trying his best to lay the blame for the
   mess in Panjim at Manohar Parrikar's door.Fine, assuming 
   MP is entirely responsible for this problem ( like he is for
   every problem in Goa ) My question to Mr Gadgil is ,
   Why have you never brought up the issue of the bigger
   mess in Margao and blamed Digamber Kamat for it ? He
   is not just the MLA for Margao but also the chief minister
   of Goa , and should have a wee bit more control when he
   wields so much more power than someone in the opposition.
   Is it because your primary goal is to tarnish MP's image ?
 
   2 ) Like others before him , Mr Gadgil has targetted Rajan
   on the issue of him having been abroad for several years.
   My question to him is,
   Rajan has done more to highlight some important issues than
   any person who has been always resident in Goa. Before
   criticising him , why don't you ask yourself what you have
   been doing all these years about these issues ?
   Is it because your primary goal is to tarnish the image of
   of those who may support MP ?
 
   3 ) I also note that Mr Gadgil has brought up the issue of
   the Sanvordem / Curchorem riots during the course of this
   thread. My problem with the communal harmony champions
   like him is ,
   Why are you so keen to highlight the role of the Hindutva
   elements ONLY in all your efforts , whether through the
   hearsay finding missions or the organisation of your communal
   harmony seminars ( with the omnipresent Puniyani's ) ?
   While I have myself stated on this forum that Hindutva 
   elements are involved in the communal tensions in Goa ,
   as Dr J C Colaco said on this forum some time back , the
   core problem in Goa is the uncontrolled influx of those who
   are much more fundamentalist about their religious beliefs
   ( and have failed to integrate with the Goan society )
   Why don't Mr Gadgil and the other communal harmonistas
   of Goa realise this glaringly obvious fact and start focussing
   on treating the underlying disease rather than supressing 
   the symptoms ?
   Is it because your primary goal is to tarnish the image of
   the BJP ?
   
   regards,
   anand
   
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[Goanet] Call For UK To Help In Scarlett Probe

2008-03-30 Thread Gabe Menezes
Call For UK To Help In Scarlett Probe

Updated:09:05, Sunday March 30, 2008
Lawyers for the family of teenager Scarlett Keeling, who was murdered
in Goa last month, are calling for Scotland Yard to help investigate
her death.

Fiona MacKeown to return to UK

One told Sky News: "I think it would be an exceptional assistance if
Scotland Yard with their resources can provide some forensic help with
this homicide."

The call follows a meeting between Scarlett's mother, Fiona MacKeown,
and a powerful Indian human rights commission.

The National Commission for Women representatives will report directly
to the country's Prime Minister, Manmohan Singh.

Advertisement

Sky News correspondent Stuart Ramsay, who was at the meeting, said the
commission was "a hugely powerful organisation here".

He said: "To all intents and purposes their presence here is proof
that the Indian government accepts it has got a real problem with the
investigation into Scarlett Keeling's death.

"In the next days they will report to the prime minister in person and
to Sonia Gandhi, the figurehead of the country's pre-eminent political
dynasty."

Scarlett was found on beach

Ms MacKeown said: "They seem to be very keen to get justice and it's
very reassuring that they are interested in looking into this case.

"It's a really positive thing to go home on."

Ms MacKeown has now begun the process of repatriating her daughter's
body and is due to return to the UK on Monday.

She has single-handedly forced authorities to investigate her
daughter's murder after local police initially said she had drowned
while drunk, despite evidence to the contrary.

Ms MacKeown has accused the local authorities of a cover-up.

Two men have now been arrested on suspicion of drugging, raping and
murdering 15-year-old Scarlett.

Ends.





On the link below, right hand side watch the video.
http://news.sky.com/skynews/article/0,,30200-1311139,00.html

-- 
Gabe.

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DEV BOREM KORUM.

Gabe Menezes.
London, England


Re: [Goanet] goan identity

2008-03-30 Thread Eugene Correia
I knew  Prof. Frank D'Souza had something written on
being a Goa in the posthumous collection, Frankly
Speaking. So I checked and found two essays on what it
is to be a Goan.
Good reading for those who would like to get an
overview from the pen of one of the finest Goan
essayists of his time and probably even today.
I, however, feel that the essays are "exuberant", as
the good old and now dead professor uses the word, one
among three, I think, to describe the Goan.
One must understand that Prof. Frank was no
sociologist but a teacher of English. What he writes
is from the heart. The book, published by a committee
after Frank's death, is collected pieces from
magazines and weeklies, notably The Examiner.
Maybe I should scan them and the pieces and post it
here.
I am not sure if the book is still available in
Toronto with Roque Barretto. I had arranged with
Frank's daughter in California to send two dozen
copies. As usual, Goans were not interested in buying.
Talk of Goan identity... ha, ha.

Eugene



  

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[Goanet] MP and Panjim (was Why Manohar Parrikar is not CM today)

2008-03-30 Thread Philip Thomas
[Vidyadhar
Gadgil]

I wholeheartedly second this idea. If possible MP should renounce his Panjim
seat and stand for some other place where he can do least harm and carry on
as leader of the opposition.




Re: [Goanet] Goans in the Middle East in pain !

2008-03-30 Thread Gabe Menezes
On 29/03/2008, Mario Goveia <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


... and foreign owners of US currency purchase US fixed
assets, which they are all welcome to do by US policy, and the smart
money is doing so even as we speak in terms of farmland, commercial
property, manufacturing plants and corporate acquisitions.  Unlike
India, the US welcomes such acquisitions.

RESPONSE: Really ? Being more than a tad disingenuous; check out the URL below.

http://www.nytimes.com/2006/03/10/politics/10ports.html

-- 
DEV BOREM KORUM.

Gabe Menezes.
London, England


[Goanet] A Bust of Dr. Jack de Sequeira in Moira to honour the eminent Moidekar

2008-03-30 Thread floriano goasuraj
Dear  Goans, Moidekars,

Today's Gram Sabha of the Village Panchayat of Moira which met to discuss the 
proposed budget for  the village of Moira for the year 2008-2009 had many 
incidentals,  one of the important ones  being  the suggestion that a bust of 
the eminent Moidekar Dr. Jack de Sequeira be erected at the panchayat square 
(rather the triangle) which has been recently built by the Panchayat. This 
suggestion which originated from yours sincerely came about when another 
Moidekar and more specifically a neighbour of Dr. Jack de Sequeira  Sr. Renato 
Veloso presented the  photograph of Dr. Jack de Sequeira to the Sarpanch  
probably to solicit the interest of the Panchayat to do the same.  

The suggestion having been readily accepted by the Gram Sabha, it has now been 
decided that appropriate resolutions will be passed in the next Gram Shaba of 
the Panchayat (this Gram Sabha being called  only to discuss the budgetary 
provisions)  as well as by the Comunidade of Moira to the effect that a bust of 
this eminent Moidekar be erected at the Panchayat square/triangle with all 
private participation of Moidekars. Yours sincerely has spontaneously sponsored 
the marble base for the bust. 

A list for the contribution will be circulated within Moira to solicit for the 
necessary funding and the maintenance of the statue as soon as architectural 
plans as well as the costing is available to develop the already ready-made 
triangle to house  this statue. Dr. Jack de Sequeira will be facing in the 
direction of his ancestral house which is presently in a dilapidated condition 
at Bambordem, Moira.

Needless to day that the project is already in hand and it should be  ready for 
inauguration by/before  8 December (Moira Church Feast/Christmas)  2008

Moidekars please be informed.

floriano
goasuraj   


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[Goanet] Agitation to oppose retired badminton coach Roshanlal's extension intensifies

2008-03-30 Thread Sandeep Heble
SAG not following procedures: PBC and EBG
NT Sports Reporter


Panaji, March 29

The Panjim Badminton Club and Evening Badminton Group today alleged
that though recrutiment to all posts in government, quasi-government,
statutory bodies, boards, etc should be done after folllowing
established procedures the SAG did not follow them in Mr Roshanlal
Nahar's case when offering him a contract job as badminton coach with
SAG after his superannuation in SAI last year (March 2007).

Mr Sandeep Heble, joint secretary PBC and EBG, disclosed at a press
conference here that as per the circular of Goa Government issued on
August 18, 1998 based on Supreme Court of India's observation, it was
necessary that the post be advertised even if it was on contractual
basis. Further, he pointed out that as per the Goa Government circular
dated May 4, 2005, the government had decided to terminate all
extension/contract appointments with immediate effect and that those
who are on contract should be relieved immediately after following the
procedure. "Consequently, the question of granting contractual offer
to Mr Nahar for another year, does not arise at all as the first one
itself is irregular," he remarked.

Mr Nahar ceased to be an employee of SAI on March 31, 2007 when SAI
did not grant him an extension. However, the SAG offered him a new job
on a year's contract, which means a new job was offered to him, Mr
Heble remarked. "What procedure and what are the services rules
followed in the case," he questioned. Hence, he said, Chief Minister
Mr Digambar Kamat has been asked to institute an inquiry into the
matter.

Mr Heble said that the SAG was not following proper procedures in
disbursing TA/DA to government officers from SAI. He produced official
documents from SAG stating that the regional director of SAI who was
on a visit to Goa from 24-12-2005 to 27-12-2005, was entitled for
TA/DA from his department (SAI) since he was from the Central Govt
cadre. The SAG accountant had stated: "However, as per the prevailing
practice, the visit of SAI officials was treated as VIP's visit to the
state and they have been provided with all sorts of such facility by
SAG."

The accountant's observations were agreed to by the SAG Vigilance
Officer who remarked: "The SAI director on visit to Goa is entitled to
TA/DA of his government who sent him on official tour to Goa and that
if his government refused to pay him, then the Goa Govt could pay him
provided he had visited Goa at SAG's request. In case, the SAG has
paid these types of charges in the past as stated by the accountant,
then the SAG has committed irregularities of Government money. The
claim does not fall within the rules and therefore cannot be
accepted". Mr Heble pointed out that the bill of Rs 9071 was certified
by Mr Nahar and that originally it was approved by SAG'ED. He,
however, could not throw light if the amount was actually paid or not
thereafter, but pointed out that the procedures were not as per the
rules.

Mr Heble refuted Mr Prabhudesai's observations that Mr Nahar had
rendered great services during the nationals held in Goa stating that
coaching was entrusted to coaches Vinayak Kamat and Roy Athaide while
Mr Nahar was named as manager, which post he he did not accept and as
such did his duty as joint secretary in organisational matters which
is basically the work of the association.

State champ Govind Navelkar, acknowleged that Mr Nahar was his "guru"
but that he had nothing to offer at advance level for seniors, which
is the reson for stagnation, and hence the need of fresh air and a
fresh coach. He pointed out that the Goa women's team in the last
nationals had just one player to show in Sonali Gaocar and that the
other player U-16 Ronika Bandodkar was listed as the second player
even as the latter had announced that she could not participate in the
event and as such never attended the coaching camp. Surprisingly her
name appeared in the list, he added and divulged that Ronika did not
turn up at the nationals and that her opponent was awarded a walkover.
That apart, he stated that Sonali had no partner in the doubles event
in the absence of Ronika.

Mr Shashant M Naik, president of PBC and EBG, a former state player
pointed out that the performance in badminton has not shown any
improvement over the years. "Moreover, we have not even reached the
quarter-finals at senior nationals since the start and there is no
such a hope in the future under the present dispensation. The job of
the coach is to train, motivate players and not be part of
organisational matters. It is for this very reason that certain
officials of Goa Badminton Association had sown the seeds of revolt
against the particular coach about four years ago. The goal of the
coach is to guide the players without looking at their background,
using polite language and manners and be available when they need
help," Mr Shashant observed. Badminton needs a whiff of fresh,
reinvigorating air, he summed up.

Link:
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[Goanet] Indian Felicitation Centre in Dubai

2008-03-30 Thread cedrico dacosta
Indian Felicitation Centre in Dubai

In the Navhind times of today, this iteam has appeared
and has immediately sparked a debate among Goans in
Dubai.

It would be in the best interest of Indian culture and
tourism to open up a felicitation centre in Dubai and
hence this would start a long cultural exchange
between the two countries.

But the Indian government has in the past given such
tall assurances to begin centres under various heads
in Dubai.

Take for example Goa. Several tourism ministers from
Goa, prominient one being Dr Willy Dsouza would attend
the arabian travel market, held in dubai annually to
boost tourism ties among the two countries.

Dr Willy as in his very pompous attitude, would make
loud promises of starting a direct flight between goa
and dubai within a few months...this was in the mid
nieties...till date nothing has transpired...on the
conntrary, air travel for Dubai goans has worsened
considerably to make a trip to Goa.

In the iteam appearing on today's NT it is also
mentioned that several community leaders have been
awarded...at least one neame appearing in the UAE list
is hardly a name to reckon with and I do not
understand on what basis has the award been handed
over.

The whole award issue smacks of controversy.

I call upon any Goan bases in UAE to provide me some
inputs about the following persons awarded by the
Governmental committee, and the extent of community
service conducted by these individuals.

 Mr Ramnath Arjuna Mavlingcar (UAE), Mr Rockson Rufus
Rodrigues (Dubai) 

Kind Regards

Cedric da Costa
Dubai


  

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[Goanet] Goan Identity or Culture (GIC)

2008-03-30 Thread Antonio Menezes
The Goan identity or culture that  some Goans are obsessed with could best
be understood if we try to define it. And definition of Gic  is definitely
not an easy proposition.

However, a beginning can be made if we place a few facts before us.

Gic as we know it today did not exist before 1510 and after 1961 it appears
to be withering away.

Gic is geographily confined to the four coastal talukas of Goa. i.e.
Ilhas,Bardez, Salcete and Mormugao

Gic arose directly as a result of conversion to  Ch aristianity

At this point, let me state that a vast majority of Goan Catholics, whether
in Goa, India and overseas are least bothered  about the withering away of
Gic.

Goans who are obsessed with Gic  are mainly the beneficiaries of
thePortuguese rule and of patronage that was extended to Rachol  graduate
producing families by missionaries.

Let us define further the beneficiaries of Portuguese and missionary
patronage.

During the first half of the Portuguese rule, i.e. about two and half
centuries, the beneficiaries were Portuguese settlers and their eurasian
descendants.  The latter are the people who aped Portuguese customs and
mannerisms.  Side by side with eurasians  there was one Indian community who
claimed to be of ''high caste''.  Towards the end of the Portuguese rule
eurasians just faded away or  were assimilated with ''high castes''.  It was
these eurasians and ''high castes'' and (from 19th century onwards) bhatkars
who claimed to be the depositories of European or shall we say Eurasian
culture.

Today when the Portuguese medium  ''high castes''/bhatkars  are silent about
Gic ( I think, they yearn to be assimilated with the Portuguese in Portugal
) it is the English medium ''high castes''/bhatkars who migrated to British
India  in search of jobs, whose descendants  are today mainly settled in the
U.K. and North America who are responsible for drumming  about Gia being  in
mortal peril.

Antonio