[Goanet-News] Goanet Reader: Waiting for Narayan... a story from the Goa of the past (by Tony Fernandes)
WAITING FOR NARAYAN: A STORY FROM THE GOA OF THE PAST By Tony Fernandes tonfe...@hotmail.com Those were the good old days of April sunshine and humidity in Cumbiem Morod, Guirim, a village not far from Mapusa in Bardez, Goa. The schools were closed for the summer and I was looking forward to enjoying my holidays. Sitting on a small stool in our balcão, I was using the bench as a table. I was doing what I liked to do best right after lunch -- drawing before the evening coolness arrived. After that I would join other boys from the village playing football in the vast parched fields of summer stretching far north towards the hills of Mapuça. At times, the sudden intermittent gusts of gentle breeze brought us some relief from the afternoon heat. The coconut trees gently swayed, and often dislodged the ripe mango from its stem on the nearby tree. The discernible thud from the fall of the mango on the sandy ground provided a short-lived sport for us, as we raced in unison towards the mango tree. At this time, my mother would usually sit in the front balcão of our house, doing one of her daily smaller chores. Some days, it meant darning my old trousers; other days in those low-on-waste times it was altering the hem line of my cousin's dress. I can still remember the flower pattern she sewed on a pillowcase and the words 'God Bless our Home' on the altar cloth. No matter what the chore, she never failed to repeatedly move her glance from her needle to the winding path that led to our house. I remember the look in her eyes as she tried to conceal her feelings, but I knew why my mother appeared anxious. It was that time of day when Narayan the postman would bring the mail. We were waiting anxiously to hear about when my father would arrive from Bombaim (as Bombay was then known to us) where he worked. My mother was also worried because we had not heard from my uncle in Belgaum in quite a while. I could sense her concern as I continued with my drawing. Several similar days passed until we finally saw Narayan far away in the distance, dressed in his khaki uniform -- short-sleeved shirt, long trousers and sandals with a satchel slung over his shoulder as he trudged along with an envelope in his hand. How true, we thought. The crow, the harbinger of yore, of 'Kaunvllea Kiteak Roddtai Dharan'* fame, perched on the fence of our backyard that morning, had already predicted the postman's arrival. I still remember the smile on my mother's face as she read such a letter after a long wait. My father was coming home! Soon after, my uncle wrote from Belgaum that he too would be arriving for his holidays. It was so true that Narayan brought us joy in the form of letters. The amount of good news that he brought surpassed the bad. The happiest time of my childhood was Yuletide when everyone in the village received Christmas cards from relatives and friends. And Narayan would be around almost every day of the season happily delivering them to us. In retrospect, I tend to think that he could have been our very own unique Santa Claus! Conversely, he wore a solemn face when he was about to hand over a letter with a black border which meant bad news about the demise of a relative or a friend. Some postmen delivered mail on bicycles. However, Narayan preferred to deliver mail on foot as it was difficult to ride a bicycle through the sandy paths of the villages. Tired and perspiring, he would sometimes sit on our front porch for a minute or two, taking rest from the summer heat. Wiping the sweat from his face with his handkerchief, he would ask how we were doing. Koxim assat tumim? he inquired. He would then leave to deliver a few more letters before heading back to the main post office in town, where he would then board a bus to his home in Colvale. Sometimes Narayan would ask me to hand over a letter whenever someone was not at home in the village. The elderly woman who lived behind our house often asked me to read letters to her that her son wrote from Bombay. She trusted me and expected to keep to myself whatever I read. In return, to read the letters and perhaps to remain silent she rewarded me with guavas or chikoos that grew on trees at the back of her house. All postmen were generally known by the village folks as 'postacar'. But our postman was known as 'Naran Postakar' -- always polite and humble. Whenever I went to the post office to purchase stamps in the morning I could see him inside the old postal office. He would be busy sorting out mail and getting his bag ready for the afternoon delivery. He never failed to wave instantly when he saw me. Narayan served as a postman for many years, having seen the days of the transition from Portuguese colonial rule to
[Goanet-News] Goanet Reader: To a time that was: remembering an unusual chef from Raia (Lesley A. Esteves)
To a time that was: remembering an unusual chef from Raia By Lesley A. Esteves les...@outlookindia.com This spring, a bowl of prawn curry served to me on a quiet beach in far south Goa brought tears to eyes. Not because the curry was magnificent, which it was, but because I had made friends with a man I much admired over just such a bowl of prawns, some years ago in rural Salcette. Fernando da Costa chatted with everybody who came to his restaurant. But he made friends with me that first time we met because he spotted me eating prawn curry rice with my fingers, which is the polite way in rural Salcette. When he met someone who shared his passion for Goa or its cooking, or both, Fernando could talk for hours about the origins of a particular Goan dish or the merits of branded versus home-made feni, amid lamentations about what had become of his Goa. Every time I went to his restaurant over the years, he would be there to greet me in his trademark straw hat. Every time he came to New Delhi's Ashok Hotel to host a Goan food festival, quite lost in a city where beef is buff and good pork remains a rarity, I would go across to chat with him about fenis and feijoada. Fernando, though, was not one to stop at talking. As worried as he was about the survival of the 'Goan way of life', he set about preserving what he could of this heritage. Others record Goa's built heritage in books and museums. Others fight to heal the land of its hideous mining scars. Fernando's way was to create a menu for his restaurant Nostalgia, with dishes he said were from the times 'when grandpa fancied grandma'. Fernando did not create a restaurant business as much as he did a temple where tradition, by virtue of being practised everyday, could live on. His menu reflected the cooking of the home kitchen. So a dal and a simple cucumber bhaji occupies as important a space as a pork vindaloo or seafood balchao on his table. His masalas were hand-ground everyday. His sausage and of course, his feni, was home made. And his restaurant was purely a labour of love. He lived off the income from catering. When he wasn't looking for another handed-down-across-generations Goan recipe to add to the Nostalgia menu, he was looking for curios from Goa and elsewhere in the former Estado da India to hang on Nostalgia's crowded walls or another wine for his unparalleled bar. Fernando was sensitive to criticism of this temple the way people can be when they perceive their faith being criticised. I remember getting a letter from him when someone writing praise for Nostalgia in these pages looked around in amazement at the fantastic collection of memorabilia on the walls and described him as eccentric. I tried my best but could not entirely convince Fernando that my colleague intended to say something nice about him. Fernando pursued the preservation of Goan cooking with single-minded devotion, and would not compromise on his recipes by adapting them to other people's tastes. He was not in the business to serve 'restaurant food'. Fernando's prawn curry is made with ladyfingers barely cooked and still bright green, the traditional Goan way. It looks odd to most Indians who won't eat a ladyfinger unless it's fried darkest green, and puts some people off. But if you want to eat Goan prawn curry at Nostalgia, you'll eat it the right way. With your fingers, if you're well mannered. Fernando was not eccentric, he insisted, just a perfectionist. If he wanted to be remembered it would not be for the great chef that he was but for recording for history that in Goa, people ate food like this. The time to remember him came far sooner than hoped, and it came suddenly. Fernando died this past season at the age of 57, just 6 months after being diagnosed with throat cancer. The thought that he was unable to swallow food in the last months of his life remains a bitter irony. Fernando was no ordinary man. And his loss meant more to me than the loss of a friend and an inexhaustible fount of knowledge about Goan cooking. To me he was as heroic as those who fight against the mining juggernaut that swallows entire ghats in its path. Fernando's urge to preserve history came, like it has for so many others in this beleaguered state, in the face of the complex challenges that tourism has wrought upon Goa and in the face of its people's complicated reaction to these challenges. I am 25 years younger than Fernando was when he died. But I had the good fortune to see the Goa he knew and loved. In the Goa of our time Israeli reservists could not chase Indians off 'their' beaches at gunpoint, a hotel owner in Bardez could not put up a sign saying 'Indians not allowed', and all
[Goanet] InfraRed Events To Present May Ball '09 in Dubai
GULF-GOANS e-NEWSLETTER (since 1994) InfraRed Events Presents MAY BALL '09 with One of the hotteset dance band that Goa has to offer THE BIG CITY BAND Dubai's best BLACK LACE along with DJ Ringo on d mix It's summer time, so lets warm up and talk about the most hottest event happening in town A loadz of prizes giveaways to be won... May King Queen Contest Jive Competition Novelties More Serving authentic Goan delicacies Venue: ASTORIA HOTEL, BANQUET HALL Time: 8.30 p.m. till 2.30 a.m. Date: Friday, May 1st, 2009 City : Bur Dubai - Dubai http://www.youtube.com/user/placidousa SAY A LITTLE PRAYER FOR A WELL-WISHER FRIEND OF GOA-WORLD TEAM Goa World Goa Mog Goa SuRaj Super Goa (em Português) TGF Writers' Sketchpad www.colaco.net www.goa-world.com/goa/music/ - The Online Music Station for KONKANI Mahableshwar http://www.mahableshwar.com St. Mary's School - Mt Abu, Rajasthan India http://www.abusms.com EXPRESSIONS - THE FLOWER SHOP http://www.goa-world.com/expressions/ http://www.w3.org/2006/10/SSML/papers/paper.pdf GOA MAG ONLINE http://www.goamag.net http://www.renewalsetc.com/renewals.htm
[Goanet] ELECTIONS
VOTERS DILEMMA Deepak Chopra reminds that India gained independence under the guidance and inspiration of statesmen,visionaries and philosophers.Unfortunately we have bred all professional politicians who think of the next election whereas a statesman thinks of the next generation! The role of a leader is to guide, lead in the right direction and not to do what his vote bank/ chamchas want. The current leadership is rooted in stagnation, power and corruption, class pride, and a System designed to keep it that way.Citizens have the following problems and difficult questions to ponder in our democracy: 1)Candidate is chosen by the party or the High Command. 2) Nobody asks the voter which candidate they would prefer. 3) Should they vote for the party or the candidate. 4) Should they choose a bad party with good candidate or good party with bad candidate. 5) Against communalism but better morality or corruption and some sort of better secularism. 6) Since voter is not given the option of None of the above, and cannot recall if voted candidate does not perform or does corrupt things,bends the law/ is a law unto himself etc, should he vote negatively,namely to ensure no one easily gets a majority. 7)Should he risk helplessly watching the wheeler dealing after the elections and jeopardise a stable government and safety of the nation. HOW DOES ONE GO ABOUT SOLVING THE ABOVE DILEMMA? HOW TO VOTE IN A NEW SABHA INSTEAD OF AN OLD SABHA! Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! Go to http://messenger.yahoo.com/invite/
[Goanet] Clampdown on dish TV dealers
Clampdown on dish TV dealers WAM Published: April 19, 2009, 23:10 Dubai: The Ministry of Economy has issued directives to authorities to clamp down on unauthorised dish TV in the UAE. The directives strongly emphasise that selling these boxes in the UAE is prohibited as it violates the national copyright law by infringing on broadcasting rights. The boxes are illegally imported from India and sold throughout the Gulf. The ministry recently conducted inspections against unauthorised dish TV dealers, with Abu Dhabi, Dubai and Sharjah police carrying out raids in March, which led to the confiscation of a number of dish TV boxes. These marked the largest actions against dish TV dealers in the GCC. The violators were arrested and criminally charged with violation of the copyright law. -- [image: Click Here!] http://gulfnews.advertserve.com/servlet/click/zone?zid=22pid=0lookup=trueposition=1 -- Mohammad Ahmad Bin Abdul Aziz Al Shehi, General Manager of the ministry, said, We have requested the various parties involved to tighten control over unauthorised dish TV boxes that illegally enter through a neighbouring country and are sold in our local market. I would like to thank the police and concerned national bodies for their cooperation in fighting piracy and taking measures against intellectual property rights (IPR) violators. Al Shehi emphasised that legal action will be taken against those caught violating the Ministry's order, as piracy harms the competitiveness of the UAE, which reflects negatively on the national economy. He also noted that the Ministry will firmly deal with piracy-related activities. The UAE is a country that maintains one of the lowest piracy rates and is one of the best states in terms of fighting piracy. This is due to the effective cooperation between Federal agencies. The Police are also swift in their actions to eliminate methods of piracy. The recent step taken by the ministry and other concerned bodies is one of the key elements in providing a healthy work environment and enhancing the competitiveness that the UAE market enjoys. The Ministry is working on enhancing confidence in the local markets and promoting a culture of research and development which forms the basis for fostering innovation and creativity. -- Visit my website on MULTIPLY http://edwardlopes7.multiply.com
[Goanet] Religion and science
Albert writes:- God has given us plants .Some of them have medicinal values. We have a habbit of running to an allopath without realising how harmful these medicines are. For cold:- the allopath will give you antibiotics. but I would suggest ginger smashed on a stone in glass of water to which few tulsi leaves are added boiled and taken the whole day. cures cold completely. Acidity:- doctor will give you gel which has zinc in it which affects kidneys. I would suggest take a piece of ginger smash it on a stone and put in a glass of water add jeera and drink the water the whole day. Pressure= doctor gives you adelphane to be taken one everyday even if you have no pressure. It affects your body. I would suggest take a small garlic smash it and mix it with rice and eat once a day for few days something pokes you and the whole area becomes septic. you go to the doctor who cuts the portion and releases the pus and then take antibiotics etc. Take cantekor ( alvoevira ) fry it on a tawa for sometime and cool it and tie it on the infected area. Incase aluvera is not available then take an onion and fry it on the gas stove and cool it and tie it to the infected area. Planting tulsi plants around your house drives away mosquittoes and keeps the air fresh. _ Twice the fun—Share photos while you chat with Windows Live Messenger. http://www.microsoft.com/india/windows/windowslive/messenger.aspx
Re: [Goanet] A UN Conference on Casteism would be nice
Like the Israelis the Goa brahmins / chardos may refuse to attend. Message: 1 Date: Sun, 19 Apr 2009 10:40:28 +1000 From: Ruby Goes rubyg...@bigpond.com Subject: [Goanet] VOA News - UN Conference on Racism Opens Monday To: goanet@lists.goanet.org Message-ID: d81c9267878e428ab4b8b90c7a2ec...@satellite Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Goanetters, A UN Conference on Casteism would be nice. http://www.voanews.com/english/2009-04-18-voa1.cfm Cheers, rubygoes
[Goanet] Rose Fern's 'Mhaka Kiteak Podlam' staged in Dubai
Dubai:Roseferns (King of Centuries) and his troupe staged his latest drama 'Mhaka Kiteak Podlam' at the open Air Al Nasr Leisureland poolside to a packed audience last night,despite the recession and several Goan events which were scheduled for the day in Dubai.The evening saw some brilliant acting by Roseferns,Antonet De Maina and Roshan and rib tickling comedy by comedians Sally, Seby and Brian.Most noteworthy were the perfomances by 5 year old Baba Maythan who wowed the crowd by his singing.Mhaka Kiteak Podlam (Why should I bother) drives home the message of saving Goa for Goans,The tiatr touches upon the subject of Goan Identity and encourages the audience to get involved now and do something about the present state of affairs in Goa.Thanks to Mr. Roseferns who cleverly used this medium ,mixed with entertainment to touch upon a serious subject like Goan Identity.This show was presented by promoters Remy,Rosario, Bonny and Simplex*.(RadioGoa Team)* Pictures at www.radiogoa.net -- RadioGoa.net Keeping The Konkani Culture Alive! Worldwide
[Goanet] Cutting Through the Election Noise
This article is from the blog res gestae (www.rajivndesai.blogspot.com http://www.rajivndesai.blogspot.com/ ) you can reach the person managing the list at i...@comma.in Tuesday, April 14, 2009 http://rajivndesai.blogspot.com/2009/04/cutting-through-election-noise_14.h tml Cutting Through the Election Noise
Re: [Goanet] Goan writer
Wonder if anyone could put together a collection of Goan short stories in Portuguese. Preferably, in translation. I'm sure it would be easy to publish, and my alternative venture Goa,1556 [http://goa1556.goa-india.org] would surely be interested. Thanks for linking us up with another era and another language which we know so little about, Dr Pereira! ---Frederick Noronha. PS: Most people in Goa aren't part of mailing-lists. Would be pleasantly surprised if Epitácio Pais is. 2009/4/20 Jose Pereira eximi...@hotmail.com: Epitácio Pais was born in 1926, and is now 83 years old. He started writing in the late 40s, published his short stories in the O Heraldo in the 50s, and, in the 60s, transmitted them over the All India Radio. The high point of his career came in the early 70s, when 13 of his short stories were compiled in a book and published under the title Os Javalis de Codval (Lisbon: Editorial Futura 1973). Goan short story writing in Portuguese, never prolific, was initiated by Júlio Gonçalves (1846-1896) in the late 19th century. Inspired by the matchless style of the great Portuguese novelist Eça de Queirós (1846-1900), it attained maturity in the satirical short stories of José da Silva Coelho (1889-1944) in the early 20th century. Finally, it can be said to have climaxed in the late 20th century in the work of Epitácio Pais. Manuel de Seabra, the acute historian of Goan writing in Portuguese, compares Epitácio to the great 19th century Russians like Turgenev (1818-1883) and even to Dostoievski (1821-1881) himself! But Epitácio lives, and knows about his own life better than any one else. Break your silence and speak Epitácio, we are all ears! -- FN * http://fredericknoronha.wordpress.com http://twitter.com/fn M +91-9822122436 P +91-832-2409490 http://fredericknoronha.multiply.com/ http://goa1556.goa-india.org Sent from Pune, MH, India quot;In 5 years, OS/2 will be the answer to a trivia question.quot; - Marty Taucher
[Goanet] Admissions to Second/Third Year
2009-04-20
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St. Xavier's College - Mapusa - Goa - India - 403507 (TEL: 0832-2262356 WEBSITE: www.xavierscollege-goa.com)
Dear Sir, I will be grateful if you please publish the enclosed in your issue and oblige. With many thanks and kind regards, Yours sincerely, Dr. (Fr.) Walter de Sá PRINCIPAL St. Xavier's College of Arts, Science Commerce, Xaviernagar, Mapusa - Goa - 403507 - INDIA. AFTER 12TH. WHAT.? WHERE? JOIN ST. XAVIER'S COLLEGE, MAPUSA Offers: Undergraduate Programs: B.A./B.Sc./B.Com./B.C.A./B.B.A. and B.T.T.M. Postgraduate Programs : M.A. in Psychology, M.Com. and M.Sc. in Physical Chemistry. Admissions to Second/Third Year B.A./B.Sc./B.Com. and B.C.A. Second Year B.Sc. -22.04.2009 and 24.04.2009 Second Year B.C.A. -24.04.2009 Second Year B.Com. -28.04.2009 and 29.04.2009 Second Year B.A. -04.05.2009 and 05.05.2009 Third Year B.Sc. -06.05.2009 Third Year B.Com. -07.05.2009 Third Year B.A. -08.05.2009 Third Year B.C.A. -09.05.2009 For further details contact the College Office. Choose XAVIER's to maker your career.
Re: [Goanet] Vote for Mathany Saldanha
Dear Floriano Perhaps my message send the wrong tone.To clarify I am not saying that Goans should not get involved in politics; my message is actually the opposite. I know many in Goa who have the negative mindset i.e. I don't want to get involved in politics which I am asking for to change!! My message is that we have to get involved in politics else we will allow the enemies of Goa to destroy us Regards Arwin From: goasuraj *?I don?t want to get involved in politics?* Dear Arwin, What axactly are you trying to tell GOANs by the above??
Re: [Goanet] RELIGION AND SCIENCE
--- On Sun, 4/19/09, MD mmdme...@gmail.com wrote: Science is no match for religioud (sic) belief. Date: Sun, 19 Apr 2009 16:23:03 -0700 (PDT) From: Santosh Helekar chimbel...@yahoo.com But good faith is not good science. That is all I am saying. I am forced to say it because of the false claims made by Fr. Ivo, and now Gilbert, that their religion is scientific. Mario observes: As a practicing Catholic and a believer in objective science, it continues to boggle the mind when otherwise serious individuals confuse science and faith, which is the basis of religion. Several weeks ago I got Fr. Ivo to agree that the existence of God cannot be either proven or disproven by science; which should have ended this thread right there. Yet, a month later, the verbal mud-wrestling continues, much to my amazement and amusement, especially Fr. Ivo's very personal version of English as I highlighted in http://lists.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet-goanet.org/2009-March/175446.html The belief in the existence of God or a supernatural being is based on faith and some circumstantial evidence that does not constitute scientific proof beyond a reasonable doubt. We know that even the saintly Mother Theresa was wracked by doubts about the existence of God and worked to do good in spite of it. Isn't the doing good part what really counts? What good is being convinced that God exists and not living what that should mean on a day-to-day basis? On the other hand, wouldn't God approve of someone who cannot believe HE exists but lives their lives as if HE did - in the true Christian spirit - anyway? I have always argued that once we accept and live by at least the last seven of the Ten Commandments, the Golden Rule and the Sermon on the Mount, the rest is all window dressing and a full employment scheme for thousands of religious persons. Santosh wrote: I am also trying to provide accurate scientific information about public health and safety in this lay public forum because I consider it my responsibility and duty to do so. Mario observes: Santosh is Goanet's voice of reason and scientific truth, but not of peace as long as others keep provoking his sensibilities by confusing science and religion, which I, as the lone voice of reason, truth and peace am constantly trying to arbitrate:-)) I have also offered to let everyone on Goanet know as soon as I find out whether God does exist, assuming I get the evidence before the rest of you:-)) Even if I forget, you will all find out for yourselves in the not too distant future:-)) If I am wrong then, shoot, I would have wasted a lot of time and money and being good when I could have had a lot more fun being bad:-)) If I am right, then Santosh and the other atheists are in a heap of trouble:-)) In the meantime, as a cancer survivor who had to put up with the most Godawful stuff dripped into me, not to mention the cutting and stitching and burning with mysterious rays I had to endure - all of which worked splendidly in my case, I would rather follow the serious debate on why untested placebos have become so popular in the practice of medicine.
[Goanet] SUMMER COURSES, 2009
2009-04-20
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St. Xavier's College - Mapusa - Goa - India - 403507 (TEL: 0832-2262356 WEBSITE: www.xavierscollege-goa.com)
SUMMER COURSES, 2009 St. Xavier's College of Arts, Science Commerce, Mapusa, Goa, is organizing a series of short term courses during Summer 2009, at the College Campus. Those interested kindly contact the College Office between 9:00 a.m. to 4:00 p.m. (1) Stress Management on 27th April, 2009. Timing: 10:00 a.m. to 1:00 p.m. Registration Fees: Rs.300/-. (2) Transactional Analysis - Know Yourself to know Your students Better: A Therapy Workshop for Teachers from 29th to 30th April, 2009. Timing: 11:00 a.m. to 1:00 p.m. Registration Fees: Rs.300/- (3) PCB Designing from 29th to 30th April, 2009. Timing: 9:00 a.m. to 1:00 p.m. Registration Fees: Rs.300/-. (4) ASP.NET from 1st to 15th May, 2009. Timing: 9:30 a.m. to 12:30 p.m. Registration Fees: Rs.900/-. Admissions are open to all interested. For further information admission forms please contact College office or Phone 2262356 or e-mail at xavierscollege@ bsnl.in The purpose is to make available to the general public and to the holidaying students an opportunity to upgrade their knowledge.
[Goanet] Election Fever
Election Fever With elections at our doorstep, I can't help but think what the result will be, will anything change for the Aam Aadmi irrespective of who comes to power ? Campaigning is at a feverish pitch, while the doyens of dexterous debate from all sides, we have been hearing roti kapda aur makhan for too long a time, to believe it will happen this time round, India shining image begged a public rebuttal at the last election, will a mandir for Ram work for the old fox this time? Or will the pseudo secularism of the Congress work for them all over again ? Who will genuinely carry our electoral clout ? This campaign has seen the worst of battles and mud slinging, so much so that, the election commission had to intervene and reprimand a good number of our elite personalities, like the referee in the boxing ring, but so far, no party has managed to convince the general public by way of substance. Most of our politicians with their outmoded ideologies have lost touch with the present realities. The great Mulayam Singh who thinks computers are man's worst enemies and English language should be banned, is supposed to be one of the top political leaders of India, if we have some more of these jokers, then God help India. Have our political thinkers in Goa analyzed what the Aam Aadmi wants ? The Deputy Speaker and Cortalim MLA Mauvin Godinho has suddenly realized that the CRZ is a contentious issue, the Congress Party at the centre was responsible for the CRZ farce in the first place, it was introduced to protect hotel owners and took immediate action by bringing in the CRZ notification and the reason given was, to protect the coastal residents from natural disasters like the tsunami. The truth being loads of hotel owners money had changed hands. But now the coastal residents are up in arms, so our pathetic ministers and MLA's have no choice but to face the people. If Congress was so worried about the well being of the people why was this notification issued in the first place ? After all these years Mauvin thinks only Congress can solve the CRZ problem, and that regional parties are in no position to do any thing constructive, Congress in all probability should solve this problem, since it's the Congress who had ostensibly conceived this illegitimately conception. If according to Godinho, this issue can be resolved immediately then why the delay ? Secondly how many non Congress MLA's from regional parties are ministers in the Congress government in Delhi and Goa as well ? It is the Congress who has been dividing Goa in the name of secularism and creating vote bank politics, and now that the people of Goa are fed up with the Congress and would like a change Godinho thinks Mathany is a BJP agents, How many BJP agents are currently in the Congress government at the moment ? Mathany is not the traitor, it is the Congress who has nurtured and harbored traitors, like himself. Where was Godinho during the Orissa carnage or the problems in Mangalore or rest of the so called secular Congress from Delhi or Goa ? Did any of them even whimper ? Now just at the dawn of election Godinho wants to propagate his support for the oppressed and the victims of the carnage. If BJP were guilty of abetment, the Congress was definitely guilty of not just non performance and lack of foresight, but of failing to uphold the secular fabric of the Indian Constitution, it's not jut the Orissa or the Mangalore issue, even the Babri Masjid issue where Congress failed to stop or protect the interests of the minority community and they have the audacity to call themselves secular. I only hope and pray that we Goans make use of the God given commonsense and send both the central parties packing and vote for genuine Goa loving Goans and save Goa Freddy Agnelo Fernandes The content of this electronic communication is intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom it is addressed and any others who are specifically authorized to receive it. It may contain confidential or legally privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, distribution or otherwise placing reliance on the contents of this information is prohibited and may be unlawful in certain legal jurisdictions. If you have received this communication in error please notify the sender immediately by responding to this email and then delete it from your system. __ This email has been scanned by the MessageLabs Email Security System. For more information please visit http://www.messagelabs.com/email __
[Goanet] POLL MASALA - courtesy: www.oheraldo.in
GULF-GOANS e-NEWSLETTER (since 1994) POLL MASALA Churchill political colour Whether it is true or not, one doesn’t know for certain. But the buzz in the political circles is that saffron leaders have met up with Churchillbab sometime ago. We are not referring to the ‘stormy’ statement made by Mickky at the joint Congress-NCP meeting held earlier this month, that some top Congress leader had some understanding with the BJP during the last South Goa by-poll and even now. That Parrikarbab has a soft corner for Churchill is a well-known fact in the political circles. And vice-versa is not wrong. Politically it helps the BJP if there is chaos and confusion in the ruling group. The understanding between the saffronites and some SGF leaders during the last (2007) assembly polls has reached oblivion. There was storm in the tea cup when the BJP meeting in Benaulim had a good crowd three days ago. How could the saffron brigade attract such a good crowd, was the question on everyone’s lip. The grapevine has it they were supporters of one faction of SGF and one top Congress leader from Salcete. Any guesses? Incidentally, the BJP president who is also the North Goa candidate doesn’t want to hit out at Churchill by name on Mopa. Why? Your guess is as good as ours. At a function organized in Porvorim four days ago, Shripadbab while talking about Mopa said the airport would have been under construction had it not been for one person. Shying away from naming Churchill, he said, it is because of “ek vyakti” (one individual) that the Congress kept the project on hold. Such is Churchill’s popularity across the political chessboard in Goa, one may say. BJP and minorities Shripad bhau as BJP president says that the party has been trying to go closer to the minorities. One doesn’t know to what extent this is true or whether it is one of those statements made especially during election time. Taking along few families – whether beneficiaries of BJP regime or not – is fine. But the question is whether the BJP leaders were able to keep the many minority people who supported and admired Parrikar Co, in their fold? No doubt, there are some prominent persons from minority community who have still remained with the BJP – because of Parrikar, Shripad Naik, Francis D’Souza or some other leader. But there are many who though one-time admirers of the party, have moved away. This is because they were being looked at suspiciously by lower-rung saffron leaders. They see minorities as pro-Congress. “I, like many others, am anti-Congress but they (saffron leaders) look at me with suspicion in their camp as if I am Congress supporter. So, even if we vote for BJP, they will never accept it”, said a distraught anti-Congress voter. For the rise of the BJP from four seats (1994) to ten seats (1999) to 17 seats (2002), there is also contribution of the minorities. The first term of Parrikar government (October 2000-May 2002) also attracted minorities to its side but in the second term, some developments occurred which pushed some minorities to the wall. The true colours were showing. Focus on Ravi Their candidate may not have been known across the state. Initially he was called `a weak candidate’. But in the BJP, it doesn’t matter much. Once the candidate is finalized, the cadre works like well-oiled machine. Adv Narendra Savoikar – a hardliner in the BJP – who has come up from childhood in the RSS mould – is now, in the last leg, set to give the Congress a tough fight. Backed by Parrikar’s strategies, the BJP has now reached the Congress homeground – Salcete. Apparently, they seem confident in the New Conquests areas – Sanguem, Canacona and Ponda talukas. Well, in Canacona, both the seats are represented by BJP but the area to be watched, it is said, will be Ponda taluka. When Churchill had won the seat in mid-1990s, he had received very good support from Ponda assembly segments. This time, he is not in the fray but it is to be seen whether sardinha would manage to take a lead there. Ponda has Home Minister Ravi naik, Madkai Transport Minister Sudin Dhavlikar while Shiroda is with BJP but Congress party president Subhash Shirodkar is from the same area. Following Churchill tantrums, voting in every segment would be scrutinized, insiders say. So, the focus will also be in Ponda, Madkai and Shiroda. Otherwise, Ravi may have to give some explanation. Silver on the stage! With one Tai working for Jitendra, the situation looks amusing in Mandrem. Sangeeta Parab, wholeheartedly is in the arena, trying to get votes for her party –NCP. But there’s no sign of silver-haired politician who comes from the same taluka. This is the time when the NCP-Congress is looking for more support from the taluka as the BJP had taken more than 13,000-lead last time. Where is bhai? He is one who is seem more on the stage than at the grass-root level,
[Goanet] DNA: Speak Up: Passengers at Bandra Railway Terminus send signal for help
Goanetters, Mumbaikars have it tough. http://www.dnaindia.com/report.asp?newsid=1248995 rubygoes
Re: [Goanet] Goodbye Goa: HERALD(Goa), Apr 19, 2009
Dear Antonio Bernardo Colaco: I copy my post of Oct 11, 2007 to you. Valmiki has now after a year and a half fired the first cannon shot of the lengthy series of articles he promised on Goodbye Goa. I for one will be reading every word. Power to your pen Valmiki. Roland. - Original Message - From: Valmiki Faleiro valmi...@gmail.com To: Roland Francis roland.fran...@gmail.com Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2007 11:24 PM Subject: Goodbye Goa Exmo Sr Antonio Colaco, I hope you have been reading Valmiki's series about Goa. He promises that in a few weeks he will write the final piece called Goodbye Goa. In that he will encompass most of what he told me. The gist of that is Goa has many times been washed over with migrants and this time the migrants are again going to bathe Goa in a flood much like the previous times. What effects it will have on today's Goa I will leave to his article. If I recounted all he had told me, I would not be able to do so accurately, and I would be intruding on his article. In fact come to think of it he never told me his conclusions of this latest migrant wave. So I shall be reading his article with as much expectation as you and many others. Roland. 1-416-453-3371 Mr. Roland, After all what did you learn from Mr. Valmiki Faleiro? Could you just give a short information? António Bernardo Colaço
[Goanet] [JudeSundayReflections] Third Sunday of Easter
19-Apr-2009 Dear Friend, Sometimes good news is too good to be true! We exclaim, “I just can’t believe it! It’s not possible! Sometimes good news is disturbing and upsetting! We are fearful of the consequences. Life will never be the same again we fear. The risen Lord and his appearances to the disciples was good news but it disturbed the disciples, it panicked them. They wanted to live their normal lives but they knew that life would not be the same again. They accepted the risen Lord and it made all the difference. May the Risen Lord enter and change our lives! Have a joyous weekend seeing and believing! Fr. Jude Sunday Reflections: Third Sunday of Easter ‘See, I have risen from the dead! Believe!’ 26-Apr-2009 Acts 3: 13-19; 1 John 2: 1-5; Luke 24: 35-48; In today’s first reading from the Acts of the Apostles we have Peter’s sermon preached possibly on the occasion of the healing of the lame man, who was cured through the power of the risen Lord. Witnessing to the risen Lord, Peter, speaking to the Jews, confronts them with the fact that they put the innocent one, the holy and righteous one to death. Peter confronts them still further, they tried to put the author of life to death but God did not permit them to do so. They demanded the reprieve of a murderer while they killed the prince of peace. God however raised him from the dead. Peter is a witness of this fact. The primitive picture of the death and resurrection is humanity’s no and God’s yes. While Peter confronts his listeners and puts the onus of the death of Jesus on them, at the same time he excuses them for their ignorance because of which they sinned. They will be pardoned if they repent of their sins. Shattered Dream or Rebirth of a Dream There was a train driver who drives his train up and down the same line every day. There was this lovely little cottage set in a short distance from the track. Its white walls shone in the sun. In front of it grew the most gorgeous roses he had ever seen. It was like something one imagines exists only in picture postcards. He soon fell in love with it. One afternoon as he was passing he saw a little girl playing on the front lawn. She waved to him as the train swept past. He hooted the horn in response. The same thing happened next afternoon. Thus began an innocent and beautiful friendship between him and the child. Every afternoon she waved to him, and he hooted the horn in response. Sometimes the girl was joined by her mother, and they both waved. It made him very happy, and also made the monotonous journey seem short. Years passed. The child grew up. Only occasionally now was she there to wave to him. Nevertheless, the bond that had been forged over the years was still intact. Then he retired and went to live a distance away. But he could not get the cottage and his two friends out of his mind. So one day he decided to visit them. When he got there things were very different from what he had imagined. The walls of the cottage were not nearly as white as he had thought. The roses were not as beautiful as they seemed. But the biggest disappointment of all came when he met the woman and her daughter. They were polite to him when he told them who he was. They led him into a gloomy parlour where they chatted over tea. But he felt out of place. So he left as soon as he could politely do so. He felt empty. His dream world had dissolved. The friendship which had given so much meaning to his life was shattered. Is our faith a dream world or the true reality? Flor McCarthy in ‘New Sunday and Holy Day Liturgies’ In the second reading from the letter of John we are reminded that though we are baptized we keep on sinning and failing God. But we have an advocate Jesus Christ who constantly intercedes with the Father on our behalf. He is the expiation for our sins. The risen Christ acts as our advocate before the Father by applying the merits of his death for our sins, cleansing and removing them so that we can be restored to a right relationship with God. John also reminds us that merely saying ‘I know God and love him’ is no guarantee of our faith unless we keep his commandments. Keeping the commandments and His word, for John, is the way of manifesting our faith and love of God. I Will Go for Christ! Dr. Mason of Burma once wanted a teacher to visit and labour among a warlike tribe and asked his converted boatman if he would go. He told him that as a teacher he would receive only four rupees a month whereas as a boatman he was receiving fifteen rupees. After praying over the matter, the boatman returned to the doctor and the following conversation occurred. “Well, Shapon”, said the doctor, “What have you decided? Will you go for four rupees a month?” “No teacher,” replied Shapon, “I will not go for four rupees a month, but I will go for Christ.” Anthony Castle in ‘Quotes and Anecdotes’ The first verse of today’s gospel links
[Goanet] Post allowed to go through
The censors of GN clearly biased towards a certain country have allowed a post of a seemingly bi polar element to be presented on this forum. Last month a post on USA was rejected by a certain censor based in US. It seems that GN has two faces innit? BC
[Goanet] Stand By Me
A five minute rendition of one of my favorite songs that will shake your legs. A brilliant cameo mix of street musicians from all over the world, as only street perfromers can perform. http://bravefacari.tumblr.com/post/94543105/http-vimeo-com-moogaloop-swf-clip-id-2539741 -- Roland Francis http://roland-torontogoan.blogspot.com +1 (416) 453.3371
[Goanet] Fervent Appeal in favour of Mathany, Once more
Dear Goanetters from South Goa, I would like to fervently appeal to the people of South Goa to please vote for Mathany Saldanha. He is the man needed for the moment. Or the voice that needs to be heard in Delhi will be stampeded forever. Its a chance we have, and we can and should make the difference. Adv Sawaikar of the BJP has himself admitted that Mathany is a man of the massses. And Sardinha has told the people with impunity that he will not have time for us. In the Delhi equations, one seat for Mathany will not make him the kingmaker. But yes it will atleast have a voice for the silent goan community that has ever been trying to understand and fit into things in the Indian conglomerate. I appeal to ALL GOAN DIASPORA settled ABROAD. Please call up your families, spouses, children, friends, eveyone that matters to atleast ensure to vote for MATHANY. Yes we may be limited by our influence but if we can make our families vote for Mathany, we can surely make a difference. Indian polity is not based on Manifestoes. They are just for fashion show. They will gather dust once the elections are over. Forget Congress n BJP. Even forget that he belongs to UGDP. What Goa wants is a man for GOA. Its sad to know that GGRM, SEZ Virodhi Manch, GHM, Bailancho Ekvott, GAKUVED, MANND, and the so many GOAN social activists and Groups are not really seen in staunch support of our Mathany. Do you expect the Congress to put the healing balm? or expect BJP to put ointment on our woes. Of course we are Goans, Assum dhi re. Vote for KATOR, SCISSORS,KAINCHI Beny Pereira Sirlim - Goa, Dubai - UAE
[Goanet] DNA: World: Country has to be saved from caste-based parties: Advani
Goanetters, Advani is in London. http://www.dnaindia.com/report.asp?newsid=1248957 May God save you from politicianS! Jai Hind! rubygoes
[Goanet] Goa elections results
The results have been announced for the North South Goa Lok Sabha seats. The winners are: 1. The mining lobby 2. The building lobby 3. The Delhi lobby 4. The everything illegal is OK in Goa lobby Aam admi lost narrowly, by 99% of the vote. Better luck next time. Goa, RIP George
Re: [Goanet] Goodbye Goa: HERALD(Goa), Apr 19, 2009
Dear Roland, Thank you for (the anticipated) reading. Senhor Antonio Bernardo may or may not like to read. Don't enthuse him much. Good ole Ole Xac may not like what I have to say about the Portuguese handling Goa's economy, which indirectly contributed to the present state of Goa. Nothing new here. Great men have said this before. I'm just re-circulating old stuff for the benefit of those who may not know, particularly in the younger generations. Tongue-in-cheek about you, I'm sure y'know, Ole Xac! Rgds, v - Original Message - From: Roland Francis roland.fran...@gmail.com To: Goa's premiere mailing list, estb. 1994! goanet@lists.goanet.org Sent: Monday, April 20, 2009 8:02 PM Subject: Re: [Goanet] Goodbye Goa: HERALD(Goa), Apr 19, 2009 Dear Antonio Bernardo Colaco: I copy my post of Oct 11, 2007 to you. Valmiki has now after a year and a half fired the first cannon shot of the lengthy series of articles he promised on Goodbye Goa. I for one will be reading every word. Power to your pen Valmiki. Roland
[Goanet] Chicken soup in Anjuna
Date: Sun, 19 Apr 2009 18:45:14 -0700 (PDT) From: georgejpi...@yahoo.com Given this is Goa and nothing is straight-forward, we have to test again, next time in South Goa. After the elections, we plan to visit Quepem and try our allopathic, homeopathic, ayurvedic chicken-soup experiments, assuming there are any chickens left. Mario adds: This is a good lesson for Rita, Maurice, Fr. Ivo and especially Gilbert. See how easy it is to test ayurveda and the little pink sugar pills? Yet, no one who sells these wants to take the trouble, ...er, risk. Now George has stepped into the breach for the benefit of all mankind. This is how far Sudharop is willing to go in their quest to help humanity. Once George is done with his tests we will all know for sure. I hope he is using Santosh as an adviser to organize these important tests. That way Santosh will be saved the trouble of dealing with all those pesky Goanetters who will believe anything as long as it is not developed in the west. Of course, as everyone knows, anything developed by the big American pharmaceutical companies is especially designed to kill people, very slowly, right after they have taken all their money. My only suggestion to George is he add massage therapy, aromatherapy, yoga, transcendental meditation and feni to his list to see if those work any better than chicken soup. That way he can also have some fun along the way:-)) Date: Sun, 19 Apr 2009 19:55:06 -0700 (PDT) From: Mervyn Lobo mervynal...@yahoo.ca It is funny (to me) to find out that there are Goan doctors who will even contemplate 'chicken soup' as medication. Mario adds: C'mon, Mervyn, give me a break. This shows you know as much about chicken soup as about gold or the USA or the stock market or Somali pirates:-)) If you knew anything about the stock market you would know that Gilbert is one of the biggest stockholders in Campbell's Soup and is also the guy who writes all those Chicken Soup for the... books which have made him a gazillionaire:-)) All his patients are fed chicken soup for three days before he examines them: )) Memo to self: Check if George owns as many shares in Campbell's Soup as Gilbert does:-)) Anyone who has had a Grandmother living with them knows that chicken soup works so well that George decided to only test different types of chicken soup. Even Somali pirates drink chicken soup before going out to pillage and kill. And when it doesn't work at least you die happy that you listened to Granny and are on your way to joining her:-))
Re: [Goanet] Religion and Science
Hi Gilbert, I noticed that you avoided answering my questions, asking me an unrelated question, instead, to obfuscate matters. Moreover, you are asking me to buy your own personal revisionist definition of scientific inquiry, which has no connection with the real scientific world, and implying that the fact that National Cancer Institute is funding some so-called complementary and alternative therapies means that the latter are somehow legitimate and effective. The NCI is testing them because as it clearly states it is important that the same rigorous scientific evaluation used to assess conventional approaches be used to evaluate CAM therapies. If these remedies are not subjected to rigorous testing by the scientific method, the poor cancer patients who take them would end up being victims of quackery. You are also making wild claims about osteopathy and cognitive therapy. Here, please read about the unscientific nonsense in osteopathy on this Quackwatch website: http://www.quackwatch.org/04ConsumerEducation/QA/osteo.html Cognitive therapy for the most part can only address psychological problems such as anxiety and depression. Please see this list of problems addressed by it, provided by the American Institute of Cognitive Therapy: http://www.cognitivetherapynyc.com/problems.asp Finally, here is my direct answer to the extraneous question you have asked. I hope you will have the courtesy to answer the questions i have asked in my previous posts. Please tell us the names of five theological books you have studied (not just read)? I have not studied any theological books, and have never claimed to have done so. Christian or non-Christian Theology is not required to be part of any medical school or science curriculum. Please answer my original questions now without going off on another tangent. Cheers, Santosh
Re: [Goanet] Religion and Science
From: Santosh Helekar chimbel...@yahoo.com -- On Fri, 4/17/09, Gilbert Lawrence gilbert2...@yahoo.com wrote: Since you-both have asked for my clarification, I am stepping into this cross-current. Dear Gilbert, I had asked you to tell me why you think that even the religion that Fr. Ivo was preaching in these kinds of threads was pseudo-religion - a term that you used when you initiated this thread. Unfortunately, you have not done that in this post or any other... ***Dr.Gilbert will not find any pseudo-religion in my postings, much less you... The question is that what you call pseudo-science in my postings is not what you call. It is only your ignorance. There are the sciences of philosophy, theology, logic, human behavior etc. all of which fields (in varying degrees) are encompassed within the training of priesthood, irrespective of religion. Are you claiming that Christian priests and ministers, Muslim mullahs and imams, and Hindu bhots and swamis study science and scientific method as part of their theological curriculum? If so, could you please let me know the name of at least one science textbook that they are required to read. ***I am answering you only regarding the Catholic priests. I do not know about the leaders of other religious communities. Priests-to-be study science in the Colleges. They follow the standard college text books. I studied in my time in the Seminary according to books of my time. I read also American books of science. As in the Escola Medica at Panjim, we had book of biology in French in the Seminary. I still have science books with me, of course, modern ones. I give (free) tuition on Science and Mathematics for students in my free time. Therefore, I cannot 'believe' in my scientific illiteracy, which Dr.Santosh has not succeded in proving... Can you please explain how religion can be a scientific endeavor with at least one specific example? ***Religion is not Science and Science is not Religion. But there is no conflict between Science and Religion. There is only integration. Religious historical facts have a historico-scientific basis, precisely because they are not mythical, but historical events. I hope you come to understand this point clearly. Therefore, what I write in this respect is not pseudo-science, but science. The problem is not the past but what is being done in the present - the fact that outdated ancient medical practices such as Ayurveda and Homeopathy are being practiced unchanged and untested at the present time. They are giving patients the same unregulated pre-scientific pills and potions that Dhanvantari and Hahnemann gave their patients centuries ago. ***See what medical companies like Reckeweg and Madaus are producing in Germany. Dr.Santosh does not know what he is talking about... How can you not recognize this simple fact after claiming in the same post that in your own field, breast cancer treatment has changed in less than three decades based on new findings, with the advent and insistence of the rigorous application of the scientific method in today's evidence-based scientific medicine? ***There is no cure for such diseases in any system. Homeopathy can be adjuvant therapy. Whether homeopathy can cure them in intial stages is to be tested by homeopathic physicians. Regards. Fr.Ivo
[Goanet] Solo Show
Solo Show of Mehmood ul Hasan Jafri at Indus Valley School Gallery The exhibition is planned for Wednesday, 22nd April 2009 from 5:00pm to 8:00pm IVS Gallery Timings are: 10:30 am 7:00pm ( Mon- Sat ) Show will continue till May 02, 2009 Contact Anbrin Naz Gallery Manager Indus Valley School of Art and Architecture ST-33, Block 2, Scheme 5, Clifton Karachi-75600, Pakistan Tel: 5861039-40, 5838018-19, UAN: 111-111-487 (Ext 355) Fax: 92-21-5861048 E-Mail : anbrin@indusvalley.edu.pk Web : www.indusvalley.edu.pk
[Goanet] Ivan Rocha - In Memoriam
Good BYE Sir Ivan Rocha It is always said, all things must come to an end, Good or Bad. Sir Ivan Rocha was one of our finest teachers and the last I met him was at the 60th anniversary celebrations we had of our Alma Mater, St. Britto's. at St. Jerome's Church in Mapusa. I infact walked with him as he left the place to go home. What do I remember of Sir Ivan Rocha, Yes His Florette Bike where he would get his better half together drop her at St. Mary's and then proceed for our assembly. His command over English, Not like my Hinglish and his love for his vocation. His was a teacher who really enjoyed the respect of his students. Yes, he had his flaws, like we all have ours. I once met him in asilo hospital and was almost saddened that his health was weak but then I realised it was due to his own habits. but whatever said and done. he definitely had a lot of friends and I can tell you, I am for sure one of them. As a final salute to a Good teacher, a person who understood students, I wish to say. Your life here ended but for sure we will all join again and remember all the good times May his family accept this, and Move on. Mog Asundi Jose Da Gama Pais (JDGP) On 4/20/09, Tony de Sa tonyde...@gmail.com wrote: Ivan Rocha, Ex-teacher St. Britto High School, Mapusa; Ex-teacher Sacred Heart High School, Parra; Ex- Volunteer Call Magazine passed away today (20/04/2009) at Manipal Hospital. Ivano Pedro Souza Rocha as he liked to call himself, Ivan became a friend when I joined St. Xavier's college, Bastora in 1965. Though he was a Jr. B.A. student and I was a F. Y. Sc student, we hit it off very well. I van had the quality of attracting people around him. In the NCC, he was a Sergeant Major and he loved to play his role to the hilt. He would often create make believe situations to make camp life in the NCC memorable. After leaving Call, Ivan and I were colleagues in Sacred Heart, Parra. During the year we worked together, we had many escapades together. After one year, Ivan left Sacred Heart for St. Brittos, while I hung on in Sacred Heart. At Brittos, Ivan blossomed out as a teacher par excellence. He made teaching interesting but co-curricular activities were his forte. The trophies the school won in Elocution and General Knowledge speak for themselves. Ivan was many faceted - He was excellent in music, at stamp collection and above all entertaining people. As a prankster, he was second to none. Ivan's nature and teaching skills made him popular and loved by a number of students. Ivan leaves behind wife Lira - also a well known and popular teacher of St. Mary's, Mapusa and Children Michelle, Llewlyn and Euan Marc. I am sure, Ivan must be entertaining the heavenly hosts with his guitar, organ and piano. Rest in Peace, Ivan -- тσηу Tony de Sa Ph: +91 832 2470 148 M: +91 9975162897 E: tonydesa at gmail dot com
Re: [Goanet] Shantidoot
I am who I am. Poetic justice, shall we say? Marlon --- On Sun, 4/19/09, Mario Goveia mgov...@sbcglobal.net wrote: Mario asks: Are you Shantidoot, or his abuser?
Re: [Goanet] Chicken soup in Anjuna
Sorry Maria, you are way off ... yet again. I have a clothes washer that uses silver nano particles to disinfect clothes, without needing detergent or hot water. I think in Mervyn's case, it would have to be gold dust. As Mervyn has educated us on this forum, gold is the magical elixir for lot of problems :-) Marlon Date: Sun, 19 Apr 2009 19:55:06 -0700 (PDT) From: Mervyn Lobo mervynal...@yahoo.ca It is funny (to me) to find out that there are Goan doctors who will even contemplate 'chicken soup' as medication. Mario adds: C'mon, Mervyn, give me a break. This shows you know as much about chicken soup as about gold or the USA or the stock market or Somali pirates:-)) If you knew anything about the stock market you would know that Gilbert is one of the biggest stockholders in Campbell's Soup and is also the guy who writes all those Chicken Soup for the... books which have made him a gazillionaire:-)) All his patients are fed chicken soup for three days before he examines them: ))
[Goanet] Religion and science
Date: Mon, 20 Apr 2009 08:23:28 + From: Albert Desouza alizadeso...@hotmail.com God has given us plants. Some of them have medicinal values. We have a habbit of running to an allopath without realising how harmful these medicines are. Memo to Santosh and Gilbert: See how much time you wasted with all that education and training, not to mention all the time spent mud-wrestling on Goanet?:-)) All you need, in addition to prayer, is some ginger and garlic, cantekor, onion and tulsi leaves. Even ayurveda and little pink sugar pills are not necessary. This should make Rita and JGR very, very happy:-)) As the word spreads it will put all those nasty pharmaceutical companies out of business. Instead of plotting to kill everyone after taking all their money, perhaps thay can start planting ginger, garlic, cantekor, onion and tulsi and organizing prayer meetings, which are apparently helping India a lot according to JGR. Oh, let's not forget, we need more chicken farms as well. Those nasty cows and pigs are killing the planet with the methane gas they produce which is causing global warming and eroding Goa's beaches. Soon, Saligao may be the old Calangute. BTW, I hope George is adding all these ingredients to the chicken soup he is testing.
[Goanet] Ivan Rocha - In Memoriam
Ivan Rocha, Ex-teacher St. Britto High School, Mapusa; Ex-teacher Sacred Heart High School, Parra; Ex- Volunteer Call Magazine passed away today (20/04/2009) at Manipal Hospital. Ivano Pedro Souza Rocha as he liked to call himself, Ivan became a friend when I joined St. Xavier's college, Bastora in 1965. Though he was a Jr. B.A. student and I was a F. Y. Sc student, we hit it off very well. Ivan had the quality of attracting people around him. In the NCC, he was a Sergeant Major and he loved to play his role to the hilt. He would often create make believe situations to make camp life in the NCC memorable. After leaving Call, Ivan and I were colleagues in Sacred Heart, Parra. During the year we worked together, we had many escapades together. After one year, Ivan left Sacred Heart for St. Brittos, while I hung on in Sacred Heart. At Brittos, Ivan blossomed out as a teacher par excellence. He made teaching interesting but co-curricular activities were his forte. The trophies the school won in Elocution and General Knowledge speak for themselves. Ivan was many faceted - He was excellent in music, at stamp collection and above all entertaining people. As a prankster, he was second to none. Ivan's nature and teaching skills made him popular and loved by a number of students. Ivan leaves behind wife Lira - also a well known and popular teacher of St. Mary's, Mapusa and Children Michelle, Llewlyn and Euan Marc. I am sure, Ivan must be entertaining the heavenly hosts with his guitar, organ and piano. Rest in Peace, Ivan -- тσηу Tony de Sa Ph: +91 832 2470 148 M: +91 9975162897 E: tonydesa at gmail dot com 'When someone shares something of value with you and you benefit from it, you have a moral obligation to share it with others.' -Chinese proverb -- тσηу Tony de Sa Ph: +91 832 2470 148 M: +91 9975162897 E: tonydesa at gmail dot com 'When someone shares something of value with you and you benefit from it, you have a moral obligation to share it with others.' -Chinese proverb
Re: [Goanet] Religion and Science
From: Santosh Helekar chimbel...@yahoo.com --- On Fri, 4/17/09, Fr. Ivo C. de Souza icso...@bsnl.in wrote: As a physician, I shall do whatever I can in my system (allopathic or homoepathic) and specialization. The patient will come to me if s/he knows my value in my system and specialization. The above statement is puzzling, and I am afraid, very disturbing. ***In fact, I wrote it epigrammatically from the viewpoint of a physician and a patient. I am quite acquainted with conventional medicine and homeopathy, therefore I am speaking from the viewpoint of both. As a matter of fact, I did the Course and practised with diploma and license from the Medical Board for the last 30 years. Homeopathy has nothing to do with religious beliefs, as Dr.Santosh is stubborn in affirming. I read about the objections but we know with certainty that it works well. Every clinical case will be a test. The homeopath should know well his principles and materia medica. As Western medicine cannot cure all ailments, no system can be a panacea. ...it only confirms my contention that homeopathy is a belief system with a religious appeal to religious people like Fr. Ivo. No amount of scientific evidence against it would cause them to reject its treatments and unscientific principles. ***Homeopathy has nothing to do with religion and religious appeal. Scientific evidence does not show how homeopathic drugs can work through placebo effect. Vital force has its foundation in biophysics and in quantum mechanics. How small quantities can influence the bigger ones (the phenomenon of hormesis). Allopathy (or Western medicine) is needed. When we are hospitalized, we are subjected to the allopathic physicians. With its life-saving drugs, antibiotics and surgery, it is the only answer to a range of critical illnesses and dreaded diseases. But despite extensive advancement and research in the field, Allopathy is unable to provide cure for a number of ailments. In this respect, Homeopathy has shown effective and proven results. Very often the disease created by allopathic drugs is worse than the disease for which the drug had been adminstered. Homeopathy takes into account the whole person as well as the physical symptoms of illness. Homeopathic remedies are chosen to suit the individual and not just the complaint--hence their remarkable healing qualities. They are also safe, natural and widely available. Homeopathy has been particularly opposed by orthodox medicine (or allopathy), mostly for economic, emotional, visceral reasons. Research and support are increasing nowadays. Clinical trials are performed in the medical Universities. Homeopathy works wonderfully, as Dr.S.C.Madan has done by comparing homeopathy with allopathy. See his book Homeopathy Cures where Allopathy Fails, 2005. How does it work? Homeopathic remedies are diluted, and in modern biophysics, the more diluted the solution, the more potent it is (See Paul Callinan, Family Homoepathy, pp.305-324). The effects of micro-doses have been known for a long time, and there are a number of examples that support the idea that very diluted concentrations of a substance will have a measurable and sometimes profound effect. Scientists call this phenomenon: HORMESIS. Scientists from Michigan State University have shown how hormesis work in nature. Regards. Fr.Ivo
[Goanet] Kandhamal voters defy naxal threat
Read more by clicking the link provided here below: http://www.hindu.com/2009/04/17/stories/2009041758020100.htm Best regards, Dr. U. G. Barad
Re: [Goanet] A UN Conference on Casteism would be nice
Ruby Goes wrote: A UN Conference on Casteism would be nice. http://www.voanews.com/english/2009-04-18-voa1.cfm Date: Mon, 20 Apr 2009 09:56:31 +0100 (GMT Daylight Time) From: Teotonio R. de Souza teodeso...@netcabo.pt Like the Israelis the Goa brahmins / chardos may refuse to attend. Mario observes: Since India, which is considered a respected member of the UN, invented the caste system, isn't India the country that should stamp it out? Is India anywhere close to doing that? We even have Christians in India pretending to belong to one caste or another as confirmed yet again by Teutonio above. Why does anyone need a conference to stamp out racism or casteism? You know it is wrong, so, just cut it out, starting with yourself and those around you in your day-to-day decision-making and attitude towards others. Only the most gullible could possibly believe that a UN Conference on anything is designed to solve a problem. When was the last time the UN helped to solve any international conflict? Do Palestine, Kashmir, Rwanda, Burundi, Sierra Leone, Liberia, Zimbabwe, Iraq, Afghanistan, Iran and N. Korea ring any bells? Has anyone checked who the members of the UN are? There may be as many overtly racist, sexist and totalitarian regimes represented as civilized democracies. The current agenda of the UN Conference on racism is designed to promote and encourage racism, especially against Jews, not to end it. This is why Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, who denies the Holocaust, is a major speaker. This is why it is being boycotted by all the really civilized countries which work hard to avoid racism in their policies, their legal protections and day-to-day affairs. Shame on France and the UK for attending this fraudulent conference. http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/8006852.stm http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/8007440.stm
[Goanet] Konkani name for Kulattha
Hi, Would anyone know the Konkani name for Kulattha ? Check http://www.himalayahealthcare.com/herbfinder/h_dolichos.htm A picture of Kulattha would help as well. Kulattha is known as a remedy for Kidney stones. I was researching for home remedies for Kidney stones. Would anyone know other Kidney stone remedies ? Thanks, -Maria
[Goanet] Politicians sponsored New VCD with Fr. Con ceisao D’ Silva as actor
Politicians sponsored New VCD with Fr. Conceisao D’ Silva as actor Yes, it looks like the whole VCD is sponsored by Dy. Speaker Mauvin Godinho. Very first song in praise of Mauvin (with some bashing of Matanhy). Mauvin’s pic also appears on the back of the VCD Cover. Francis Sardinha and Filip Neri names also appear In the beginning, WDC thanks Fr. Conceisao D’ Silva for acting in his VCD and for doing a mock resper or wedding in a church/chapel. Fr. Conceisao Pic also prominently appears in the front VCD cover with full dress (Red) which they usually wear during Eucharist celebrations (Mass). http://www.flickr.com/photos/tiatr/3460826300/ Here Fr. Conceissao seen again together with the bridal couple (actors) While doing their ‘resper’ in the church. Some snap shots http://www.flickr.com/photos/tiatr/3459986715/sizes/o/ It may be reminded, that Fr. Conceicao gained huge popularity during the recent years. On his 54th birthday Feb.13, 2009, like most politicians/ministers he too got about 3.5 full pages of advertisements/wishes on Herald alone. Most of the Congress MLAs/Ministers names were seen. Middle two pages were dedicated to the Priest with a large saintly picture with raised hands and one hand had crucifix with input by Maichael Gracias. Next day, there was a big news item ‘Thousands greets Fr. Conceicao’ on his birthday with pic where Fr. Valerian (Caritas Director) was also shown. Fr. Conceicao, as we all know, is very close to Goa Congress Party. He is different. He enjoy support from all including the church leaders. He said “Archbishop Filipe Neri Ferrao has been supportive in whatever I have been doing” http://www.flickr.com/photos/tiatr/3460732492/ Jai ho Rev. Fr. Conceicao D’ Silva joego...@yahoo.co.uk for Goa NRI related info... http://in.groups.yahoo.com/group/GOAN-NRI/ For Goan Video Clips http://youtube.com/joeukgoa In Goa, Dial 1 0 8 For Hospital, Police, Fire etc
[Goanet] 3 new VCDs
3 new VCDs Bought today these 3 vcds VCD No. 244 HO GHAT AMKAM KOSLO by William de Curtorim With WDC, Clara, Sabina, Meera Menezes, Fr. Conceisao d’Silva, Hortence Pereira, Agnelo Lobo etc etc Rs. 150 April/2009 http://www.flickr.com/photos/tiatr/3460826300/ VCD No. 245 ADEUS, KORCHEA ADIM, POIEAT MHAKA by Com. Marcus (above are 3 carnival folk plays) With Comedian Marcus etc Rs.150 (2 CDs, it says 1+1 CD free) April/2009 http://www.flickr.com/photos/tiatr/3460827074/ VCD No. 246 RAZA RANI by Comedian Sally With Sally, Selvy, Agostinho, Seby, Janet, Lawry, Olga, Anil, Filipe etc etc Rs.150 April/2009 http://www.flickr.com/photos/tiatr/3460010397/ Releasing shortly GHOR SOUNSAR a film by Machi Mogi First show at St. Cruz Church on 30/4/09 DREAM GIRL by Peter-Roshan joego...@yahoo.co.uk for Goa NRI related info... http://in.groups.yahoo.com/group/GOAN-NRI/ For Goan Video Clips http://youtube.com/joeukgoa In Goa, Dial 1 0 8 For Hospital, Police, Fire etc
[Goanet] Talking photos: Mega Projects, Beach etc
Talking photos: Mega Projects, Beach etc These models tower 1+8 storey getting ready (under Taleigao Panchayat) (Dona Paula – Goa University road) http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk18/3457043071/sizes/l/ This is Landscape city (view from Odxel beach) http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk18/3457042117/sizes/l/ Odxel beach sunset http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk18/3457041165/sizes/l/ A grotto (our lady of Lourdes ?) on the way to Odxel beach http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk18/3457858336/sizes/l/ joego...@yahoo.co.uk for Goa NRI related info... http://in.groups.yahoo.com/group/GOAN-NRI/ For Goan Video Clips http://youtube.com/joeukgoa In Goa, Dial 1 0 8 For Hospital, Police, Fire etc
[Goanet] Goa news for April 21, 2009
Goa News from Google News and Goanet.org Visit http://www.goanet.org/newslinks.php for the full stories. *** India\'s Sesa Goa Q4 net falls 32 pct - Reuters ector iron ore exporter. It is a unit of London-listed Vedanta Resources (VED.L). ... http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=Tct=us/0-0fd=Rurl=http://www.reuters.com/article/rbssIndustryMaterialsUtilitiesNews/idUSBMA00274820090420cid=1337609548ei=ewXtSbORApeIQp6bjYYMusg=AFQjCNEfzwiuOKIYFmx0oildOuFrDoUiig *** Warner Bros backs out of \'Goa\' - MSN India roducer Soundarya Rajnikanth in a spot of bother, oursources say. Warner Bros was earlier upset with Soundaya's Ocher Studios for signing up Jai, an actor banned by the Tamil ... http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=Tct=us/3-0fd=Rurl=http://entertainment.in.msn.com/southcinema/article.aspx?cp-documentid=2989484cid=1336074375ei=ewXtSbORApeIQp6bjYYMusg=AFQjCNE0kTr501HnpnaoVFP8PHBKbA2EVA *** Air Arabia Launches Non-stop Service to Goa - Focus on Travel News ost carrier in the Middle East and North Africa on Thursday launched non-stop service to Goa, India. Round-trip flights will operate three times per week between Dabolim International Airport in Goa and Air ... http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=Tct=us/8-0fd=Rurl=http://www.ftnnews.com/content/view/5699/27/lang,english/cid=1337205060ei=ewXtSbORApeIQp6bjYYMusg=AFQjCNFlbTQAuTCQIBY4Mu8TDRZL5HAImA *** Lokmat to take on Sakaal in Goa with a Marathi edition - Livemint http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=Tct=us/5-0fd=Rurl=http://www.livemint.com/2009/04/19231219/Lokmat-to-take-on-Sakaal-in-Go.htmlcid=1337391966ei=ewXtSbORApeIQp6bjYYMusg=AFQjCNGIq0TZNNsxtFeVJB0AcX91xAeI0w *** Sesa Goa Board recommends Dividend of Rs 2.25 - Equity Bulls 9 on the enhanced number of shares post ... http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=Tct=us/9-0fd=Rurl=http://www.equitybulls.com/admin/news2006/news_det.asp?id=49701cid=1337832934ei=ewXtSbORApeIQp6bjYYMusg=AFQjCNH20NLZc2EO-_HYBWlsUt81s2P4Vw *** Matanhy set to battle for S Goa seat - Times of India mes of India, IndiaIt was in 2000 that Saldanha was elected a member of the South Goa zilla parishad. His only stint in the assembly saw him take charge of the tourism portfolio. Saldanha has degrees in science and education, and a masters degree in arts (political ... http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=Tct=us/7-0fd=Rurl=http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/Goa/Matanhy-set-to-battle-for-S-Goa-seat/articleshow/4421987.cmscid=0ei=ewXtSbORApeIQp6bjYYMusg=AFQjCNGOwGmO9sfpFTxQOPAcfxzeZea-tg *** From cynic to sand: A yogi is born in India\'s Goa - Cape Breton Post pe Breton Post, CanadaThis was Goa, one of the most heavily touristed regions of India. We had been travelling around the subcontinent for two months, trying to convince ourselves that we were intrepid #148; eating and interacting with the locals, hanging out where pale skin ... http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=Tct=us/6-0fd=Rurl=http://www.capebretonpost.com/index.cfm?sid=243470sc=701cid=1337926310ei=ewXtSbORApeIQp6bjYYMusg=AFQjCNFuAdw-NEU9alw4Yut2UrQHJJcaZg *** Counselling sessions for GU students to begin soon - Times of India mes of India, IndiaPANAJI: The Goa University has decided to have two on campus professional counsellors in view of the molestation and ragging cases. Goa University registrar, MM Sangodkar, has said that the counselling will begin with the girl that has alleged ... http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=Tct=us/4-0fd=Rurl=http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/Cities/Counselling-sessions-for-GU-students-to-begin-soon/articleshow/4427576.cmscid=1336722399ei=ewXtSbORApeIQp6bjYYMusg=AFQjCNGwGiPsk6C2Goedks6TOVmkPq313w *** I\'ll introduce Bill seeking special status for Goa: Shantaram Naik - Times of India mes of India, IndiaMARGAO: Rajya Sabha MP Shantaram Naik on Sunday revealed his plan to introduce a Bill in the parliament seeking special status for Goa by proposing suitable amendments to Article 371(i) of the Constitution of India. The Bill is being drafted and will ... http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=Tct=us/2-0fd=Rurl=http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/Goa/Ill-introduce-Bill-seeking-special-status-for-Goa-Shantaram-Naik/articleshow/4421985.cmscid=1336563849ei=ewXtSbORApeIQp6bjYYMusg=AFQjCNHwurZdhTMnWj4HB-74wdzNR0X6BQ *** No paramilitary forces for Goa: EC - Hindu ndu, IndiaPANAJI: The Election Commission has declined to give paramilitary forces for Goa for the conduct of elections to its two Lok Sabha constituencies which go to the polls on Thursday. North Goa Magistrate and Returning Officer KS Singh told presspersons ... http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=Tct=us/1-0fd=Rurl=http://www.hindu.com/2009/04/21/stories/2009042153431100.htmcid=0ei=ewXtSbORApeIQp6bjYYMusg=AFQjCNHpG2LlOkuGPLzO8u4cszGzEZ6Wfg Compiled by Goanet News Service http://www.goanet.org/newslinks.php
Re: [Goanet] Mystical experiences in Goa
From: Santosh Helekar chimbel...@yahoo.com --- On Tue, 4/7/09, Mario Goveia mgov...@sbcglobal.net wrote: If you and cloistered Carmelite nuns can have the same kinds of mystical experiences when your brains are stimulated then Dr. Beauregard and Fr. Ivo are going to endlessly claim that you may have been a Carmelite nun in your previous incarnation and are moving backwards on the path to Rama:-)) Mario, By Jove, I think you've got it! Mystical experiences can be elicited by a variety of natural means in normal people. Besides electrical stimulation there are other artificial means of evoking them. Indeed, there is a treasure trove of psychedelic literature on mystical experiences that people have had in Goa ***Totally wrong. I am not discussing about the experiences that can be triggered by the neuroscientist, but by the 'mystical experiences' which can be recorded in the brain. The 'psychedelic experiences' are not MYSTICAL EXPERIENCES of which we are speaking in the discussion of Carmelite nuns and Dr.Mario Beauregard. Richard Dawkins also tried it, but did not succeed. Dr.Santosh will not have the MYSTICAL EXPERIENCES, as we are discussing... Regards. Fr.Ivo
[Goanet] Contribution of Valmiki, Digambar, Timblo to Goa
Jesus said --- let him throw the first stone who has not created any sin. I would like to know the contribution of the following to Goa in the past few years. 1) Valmiki Faliero. 2) Digambar Kamat 3) Auduth Timblo. Only when they have done so, they have the right to comment on Mathany. Otherwise, they ought to shut up!! Jai Hind! samir
[Goanet] Fw: Goa's Mr 10 %
I GOOGLED for Mr. 10 percent and all the articles that appeared pertained to Asif Ali Zardari present Pakistan President who made millions of dollars in getting 10 percent commission from Companies who were awarded Government contracts. Goas Mr. 10 percent I was in Goa and I met my old time acquaintance, I casually asked him how his business is and I was really surprised when he answered that he can get any number of Government contracts, however he has to pay 10 % commission. When in Dubai, I met my friend from Benaulim and I raised Mr. 10 % topic and he confirmed that everyone knows that minister has become Mr. 10 %.He also added But, Lokanchi kaam karta. I want GOA NET READERS TO JUDGE WHO IS THE PERSON I REFER TO. Goa is ruined by all Goan government employees and Goan politiciansHindus and Christians equally for corrupting the government departments. Most mothers will not know that her SON or DAUGHTER is involved in taking bribes and she will definitely disapprove of it. However WIVES OF ALL GOVERNMENT EMPLOYEES knows that her husband is taking bribes because the TAINTED MONEY is always brought home and given to the WIFE which is kept in the cupboard AND BIG PLOTS, BUNGALOWS AND GOLD is purchased. To reduce the corruption in Goa, I would like to involve OUR GOAN CHILDREN the only hope for GOA , because GOA belongs to them. NGOs working in Goa should involve schools and spread the message of ill-effects of CORRUPTION CHILDREN SHOULD QUESTION THE PARENTS PAPPA DO YOU TAKE BRIBE?, please DO NOT TAKE BRIBE BECAUSE GOD WILL PUNISH ME FOR YOUR SINS. Regards Manoj Raikar Manoj Raikar
[Goanet] The Ecological Tragedy of River Sal in South Goa - Part III
Do GOACAN a favour, circulate this email to your family members, relatives, neighbours and friends. Help others be BETTER INFORMED Remember April 22nd is Earth Day - time to act !! --- --- Documented by Goa Desc Resource Centre (GDRC) Email: goad...@bsnl.in --- - The Ecological Tragedy of River Sal - Part III - by NANDKUMAR KAMAT Sal River has been an economic lifeline of Salcete taluka and the hinterland. It was part of an ancient inter-modular transportation network, which traded various commodities. The Arabs were familiar with navigation in Sal River. Betul, Velim, Assolna were important minor ports on the river. The Velim peninsular area was specially carved out to develop an all weather port in Kotubandh-Karxet area. Archaeological excavations in Kotubandh to Babsar- Pokliwada-Betul region would reveal artefacts from Satavahana period. The elusive Southern Konkan Shilahara capital port city built by King Dhammiara could be identified with Velim peninsula. Topographical changes might have erased the signs of ancient port but Velim peninsula is Sal River's archaeological heritage. Cuncolim and Balli were main caravan camping and commodity trading centres. From the South-Western coast of Goa, transportation through Sal River offered easiest access via the port of Assolna to Deccan markets in the Supa-Sirsi region. Sal River always had the same potential as canal network of Venice and Bangkok. But Bangkok won the title of 'Venice of the East'. The basic reasons for neglect of Sal River could be traced to certain developments after the liberation. The union territory administration did not critically examine the navigation system laid down by the Portuguese regime. The Portuguese respected and utilised the potential of inland waterways. Their launch/steamer services were linking major parts and minor ports of Goa. After liberation the government strengthened the road transport lobby which scuttled any moves to develop centrally sponsored inter-modular transport system for efficient handling of growing passenger and goods traffic. The government focused on Mandovi and Zuari inland waterways. The potential of Sal River and minor ports of Betul, Velim, Assolna was forgotten. Another mistake was extension of jurisdiction of Marmagoa Port Trust (MPT), which claimed development rights over Betul port area. Betul is the key to tap the economic potential of Sal River. But the jurisdictional conflict between a central government undertaking like MPT and the state government over Betul port area resulted in stagnation of all planned developmental activities. After the state government abolished the old 'bhous' system of voluntary and cooperative management of Khazan bundhs and transferred the duties to newly formed tenants associations under the Agricultural Tenancy Act, 1964, the real tragedy of the massive external embankments protecting the Khazan lands on the eastern banks of Sal River began. The ancient system of maintenance and repair of the bundhs was replaced by a centralised, taluka mamlatdar supervised corrupt system of auctions, tenders, subsidies. Once Soil conservation division of agriculture department notified a protective bundh, the local tenants conveniently forgot their own responsibilities. Slowly the tenants associations were taken over by pro-pisciculture members. From 1980, there were regular breaches in Khazan embankments along the Sal River. A new class of politically well-connected pisciculturists could see grand opportunities in the unfolding agrarian tragedy. They encouraged intentional damages to the sensitive sluice gates, flooding of the fertile Khazan paddy fields and liberally utilised the saltpans for year- long pisciculture. The Supreme Court directives on pisciculture were conveniently brushed aside. The rich silt of Sal River used to enrich the Khazan lands. People could take three crops per year in areas of reduced salinity endowed with micro-irrigation facilities. Today instead of agro-horticulture and salt production, pisciculture is seen as a lucrative trade in most of this region. But it benefits only a few people. Thousands of farmers, toddy tappers and salt producers have lost their traditional livelihood because agriculture and coconut cultivation have become risky ventures in Khazan belt on the Eastern bank of Sal River. As a member of the official government panel on agricultural land, I could see the harsh reality when our panel toured the Khazan areas between Varca to Chinchinim during 1991-2. Farmers, salt producers and toddy tappers had come forward with their grievances. The pro-farmer, welfare oriented, ecologically sound detail
[Goanet] The pseudoscience of integration
--- On Mon, 4/20/09, Fr. Ivo C. de Souza icso...@bsnl.in wrote: Religion is not Science and Science is not Religion. But there is no conflict between Science and Religion. There is only integration. Science and religion have absolutely nothing in common. One cannot and should not integrate the two. Attempting to integrate or mix the two is exactly what is meant by pseudoscience, which is what Fr. Ivo, Gilbert and others are doing. It is important that lay people be made aware of this scam, and told why it is wrong. Otherwise, they easily fall prey to this feel-good, cultural relativist, fake can't-we-all-get-along nonsense, as is evident from the posts from Rita, Maurice, Albert and others that Mario is fending off on my right flank. This mixing has now become a leftist ideological and political movement. It has led to many shady and unethical New Age practices - various faux health and nutrition cults, the so-called alternative medics mixing their untested remedies with modern drugs, and using this backdoor route to practice modern medicine without a license, as well as engage in outright quackery. Cheers, Santosh
Re: [Goanet] RIP Goa
Every elections some of us predict the death of Goa in the same way some pessimists predict the death of India as a democracy. For such people Indian elections are a tamasha or a that makes its round every five years. In more than one way, Indian elections are a theatrical exercise. Many have described it as aya ram, gaya ram syndrome. Even as it looks like a farce for western observers and political pundits, the elections are the strength of Indian democracy. No doubt many will agree that Indian democracy is indeed mobocracy. The shouting, the hate speeches, the vilification of rivals, the horse-trading, the jumping jacks from one party to another and, lastly, the collection of fronts by whatever name they can conjure up, just like a magician. Since the first elections in Goa, many things have changed yet they appear to be the same. The voting class is perhaps more educated. It may not be responsible in selecting who to vote. But given the slate of candidates from each party, the voter is faced with a Hobson's Choice. If you see the TV commercials, one with the filmstar Amir Khan, pleading with voters to cast their vote, it makes one wonder whether such TV messages go to the minds -- and hearts -- of the voters. One commercial says that if a voter does not vote, then the voter must be asleep. So, Tata tea is the remedy to keep awake -- and vote. The elections make for good TV images, as the great Canadian media guru Marshall McLuhan said, The Medium is the Message. In Indian elections, the messages gets complex because of the variety of parties and their manifestoes on which the ink dries up immediately after the elections, particularly of the winning party or parties. A coalition further confuses and confounds the message. The national parties in Goa are also promising the moon and the waters of the Mandovi in every home. Some of them want to do away with SEZ and some, on winning, would do away with your daily pez. Some of them may want to preserve Goan identity but perhaps do not know the formula for it. A few wish guys on the forum think they have the formula, which is unworkable in the current circumstances in Goa. Goan identity to be saved and preserved remains in the hands of Goans themselves. How best they do if another matter. Those who have predicted Goa's death, let me remind them it would not come with this elections or with future elections. If one believes that the slow death Goan identity is undergoing, in fact, means that the death of Goa is nearing, it is then in the realm of the posibility. Give or take another 50 years for it to become a reality. It would be an emotional death, not physical. Why are some of us going to great lengths to make such gloomy forecast? Why can't they concentrate on the political realities of the day? To say that no matter who or which party is elected to power, it would still mean the death of Goa is to write our own obituary. I know that the whole Goan environment appears hopeless. Could we still retain hope under the shadow of death? Having written this, I lay exposed to those who may choose to hit back at me saying that, I as a non-resident Goan, would care less if Goa dies or is in the throes of death. I care and many of us living abroad do and we are aware that we can make no or little difference. Some of us here have said that Goan NRIs could have a big voice in Goan politics. I do hope it happens some day, though Goa-based NRI critics would tell us to come to Goa and make the difference. Or, they would tell us to put our money where our mouths are. Such criticism is easy to hurl those who are having foreign citizenships, even though some of us may have dual citizenship. In a way, Goan NRIs working in foreign lands, particularly in the Middle East, can escape such criticism, even though some of them are living in such places for more than two decades. In the past, Goan NRIs have fallen for the dangling carrot by politicians who promise to look after the woes, such as losing illegally their homes and landsto relatives and tenants. These promises are nothing more than differential politics. Goan NRIs do not constitute a bloc of voters. Patronising Goan NRIs is part of the larger scheme of getting monetary support for campaign funds of individual politicians or the party. As I have said before on this forum, there is no politician worth his salt to deserve a vote. As some have pointed out in the case of the South Goa parliamentary election that Mathany Saldanha is the best bet while at least one former goanetter has called to support the lone lady candidate, an unknown quantity, on other forums. If strategic voting is considered then Mathany could be the man to elect. The voters would have to ignore his political sommersaults or his deafening silence in the assembly when he was a minister. Even in the circling gloom of the financial crisis, there is a ray of hope that things will look better in a
[Goanet] Goanet Reader: To a time that was: remembering an unusual chef from Raia (Lesley A. Esteves)
To a time that was: remembering an unusual chef from Raia By Lesley A. Esteves les...@outlookindia.com This spring, a bowl of prawn curry served to me on a quiet beach in far south Goa brought tears to eyes. Not because the curry was magnificent, which it was, but because I had made friends with a man I much admired over just such a bowl of prawns, some years ago in rural Salcette. Fernando da Costa chatted with everybody who came to his restaurant. But he made friends with me that first time we met because he spotted me eating prawn curry rice with my fingers, which is the polite way in rural Salcette. When he met someone who shared his passion for Goa or its cooking, or both, Fernando could talk for hours about the origins of a particular Goan dish or the merits of branded versus home-made feni, amid lamentations about what had become of his Goa. Every time I went to his restaurant over the years, he would be there to greet me in his trademark straw hat. Every time he came to New Delhi's Ashok Hotel to host a Goan food festival, quite lost in a city where beef is buff and good pork remains a rarity, I would go across to chat with him about fenis and feijoada. Fernando, though, was not one to stop at talking. As worried as he was about the survival of the 'Goan way of life', he set about preserving what he could of this heritage. Others record Goa's built heritage in books and museums. Others fight to heal the land of its hideous mining scars. Fernando's way was to create a menu for his restaurant Nostalgia, with dishes he said were from the times 'when grandpa fancied grandma'. Fernando did not create a restaurant business as much as he did a temple where tradition, by virtue of being practised everyday, could live on. His menu reflected the cooking of the home kitchen. So a dal and a simple cucumber bhaji occupies as important a space as a pork vindaloo or seafood balchao on his table. His masalas were hand-ground everyday. His sausage and of course, his feni, was home made. And his restaurant was purely a labour of love. He lived off the income from catering. When he wasn't looking for another handed-down-across-generations Goan recipe to add to the Nostalgia menu, he was looking for curios from Goa and elsewhere in the former Estado da India to hang on Nostalgia's crowded walls or another wine for his unparalleled bar. Fernando was sensitive to criticism of this temple the way people can be when they perceive their faith being criticised. I remember getting a letter from him when someone writing praise for Nostalgia in these pages looked around in amazement at the fantastic collection of memorabilia on the walls and described him as eccentric. I tried my best but could not entirely convince Fernando that my colleague intended to say something nice about him. Fernando pursued the preservation of Goan cooking with single-minded devotion, and would not compromise on his recipes by adapting them to other people's tastes. He was not in the business to serve 'restaurant food'. Fernando's prawn curry is made with ladyfingers barely cooked and still bright green, the traditional Goan way. It looks odd to most Indians who won't eat a ladyfinger unless it's fried darkest green, and puts some people off. But if you want to eat Goan prawn curry at Nostalgia, you'll eat it the right way. With your fingers, if you're well mannered. Fernando was not eccentric, he insisted, just a perfectionist. If he wanted to be remembered it would not be for the great chef that he was but for recording for history that in Goa, people ate food like this. The time to remember him came far sooner than hoped, and it came suddenly. Fernando died this past season at the age of 57, just 6 months after being diagnosed with throat cancer. The thought that he was unable to swallow food in the last months of his life remains a bitter irony. Fernando was no ordinary man. And his loss meant more to me than the loss of a friend and an inexhaustible fount of knowledge about Goan cooking. To me he was as heroic as those who fight against the mining juggernaut that swallows entire ghats in its path. Fernando's urge to preserve history came, like it has for so many others in this beleaguered state, in the face of the complex challenges that tourism has wrought upon Goa and in the face of its people's complicated reaction to these challenges. I am 25 years younger than Fernando was when he died. But I had the good fortune to see the Goa he knew and loved. In the Goa of our time Israeli reservists could not chase Indians off 'their' beaches at gunpoint, a hotel owner in Bardez could not put up a sign saying 'Indians not allowed', and all
[Goanet] Religion and Science (part 2)
Is this what passes off as intelligent conversation among scientists? Or is this a bitter brew of mis-guided outrage? Well ... I guess some scientist have a problem dealing with the facts. I would understand getting some flak from clinicians, for not being detailed in my explanations. However it appears that our pure science expert cannot handle the facts. Relax ... patients really come to see the doctors, because they love us! I appreciate Santosh telling us he has not read any book on theology. Now we will have to check about other topics he writes on. :=)) Regards, GL -- Santosh Helekar I cannot believe what Gilbert has written in the post appended below.
[Goanet] Goodbye Goa
I guess it is easy to write on the blame game rather than what the mess we are in since 1961. Clearly the articles albeit negative from V will bring a fresh air to the stupid posts on religion and science that we see on this forum day in day out. BC
Re: [Goanet] Religion and Science
I point out some more puzzling and pseudoscientific statements in Fr. Ivo's latest post. --- On Mon, 4/20/09, Fr. Ivo C. de Souza icso...@bsnl.in wrote: I am quite acquainted with conventional medicine and homeopathy, therefore I am speaking from the viewpoint of both. As a matter of fact, I did the Course and practised with diploma and license from the Medical Board for the last 30 years. I wonder what Course can give one a diploma and license to competently practice both conventional medicine and homeopathy. Homeopathy has nothing to do with religious beliefs, as Dr.Santosh is stubborn in affirming. I read about the objections but we know with certainty that it works well. To have such certainty homeopathy must be a religion. Science cannot provide such certainty. Vital force has its foundation in biophysics and in quantum mechanics. Again the mysterious vital force! This is a classic pseudoscientific claim. No genuine scientific textbook on biophysics or quantum mechanics would say anything about any kind of vital force. Here are two online textbooks that prove my point: Quantum Mechanics - http://www.lsr.ph.ic.ac.uk/~plenio/lecture.pdf Biological and Environmental Physics - http://www.physics.gla.ac.uk/~dmiller/lectures/BEP.pdf Vital force is an outdated superstitious term that modern science as discarded as bogus. Here is a description of this vital force quackery on the Quackwatch website: http://www.quackwatch.com/01QuackeryRelatedTopics/Naturopathy/naturopathy.html Homeopathic remedies are diluted, and in modern biophysics, the more diluted the solution, the more potent it is (See Paul Callinan, Family Homoepathy, pp.305-324). The effects of micro-doses have been known for a long time, and there are a number of examples that support the idea that very diluted concentrations of a substance will have a measurable and sometimes profound effect. Scientists call this phenomenon: HORMESIS. The above statement is an attempt at deception. The phenomenon of hormesis has nothing to do with the unscientific dilution principle of homeopathy. Hormesis requires that the active drug be present in the solution or preparation. In the case of homeopathic remedies, most of them do not have even a single molecule of the active drug. It is all inert milk sugar in the pill or distilled water or dilute alcohol. A high school science student can demonstrate with a simple experiment that what homeopathy claims is completely false. Furthermore, hormesis just means that a lower dose of a toxic substance does not have a harmful effect, or may have a different non-harmful or beneficial effect. It does not mean that it cures a disease whose symptoms resemble those produced by toxic doses of that substance, as homeopathy falsely claims. The basic principles of homeopathy have been scientifically proven to be false by theory and experiment. Cheers, Santosh
[Goanet] MAKE YOUR VOTE COUNT
People of Goa should take a conscientious stand and vote for the BJP candidates, Mr. Sripad Naik in the North and Adv. Narendra Savoikar in the South at the April 23 Lok Sabha elections. In the current electoral pitch, the best option available for the people of Goa is to elect the BJP to effectively deal with the global economic and terrorism crisis by ensuring some political stability with good effective governance. Congress party has been fooling the people for too long. The April 23rd election is an opportunity for the people of Goa to teach the Congress a lesson. One wonders as to how a party that cannot keep its own MLAs content can ensure the welfare of Goa’s Aam Aadmi. After witnessing the rampant corruption and administrative chaos over the last few years in particular, people should not even consider voting for the Congress party. In the name of secularism the Congress party has looted and destroyed Goa’s social and cultural identity. Congress leaders have converted politics into a business and family venture. The overnight opportunistic switching of parties by Jitendra Deshprabhu from Congress to NCP, is just another example demonstrating that self interest had taken priority over the party’s and Goa's interests. Aires Rodrigues Ribandar
[Goanet] ALERT:Film shoot causes sand dune destruction at Rajbhag beach, Canacona in South Goa.
Do GOACAN a favour, circulate this email to your family members, relatives, neighbours and friends. Help others be BETTER INFORMED Remember April 22nd is Earth Day - time to act !! --- --- Documented by Goa Desc Resource Centre (GDRC) Email: goad...@bsnl.in --- - Reckless destruction of sand dunes at Rajbhag beach - The former chairperson of Canacona Municipal Council, Mr Ranga Raikar has requested the concerned authorities to stop the destruction of sand dunes and the illegal construction at Rajbhag beach at Canacona by a private company, which, he alleged is destroying the natural beauty of the area. Speaking to 'The Navhind Times' Mr Raikar said that if traditional fisherman and local residents construct a temp- orarily shed at the coastal areas of the Canacona municipality, the chief officer immediately sends a notice to demolish the same promptly. Mr Raikar further said that the Violation of CRZ rules and regulations by film industry at Rajbhag-Talpona stretch, is mercilessly destroying the prominent sand dunes which keep the sea water away from the land during the monsoon. He said the entire Canacona taluka has questioned the wisdom of the authorities, who instead of stopping this environmental disaster, are turning a blind eye and deaf ear to the entire issue. Other environmentalists, including Mr Divakar Desai, said that in order to set the stage and other required infrastructure for a film shoot on the beach, sand dunes have been destroyed near Hotel Intercontinental by a Mumbai based company. He further pointed out that more then sixty per cent of the vegetation has also been destroyed and some Casuarina trees, on a stretch of about half a kilometer have also been cut down by the local agents of the film industry, in the last ten days. This they said has created serious stress on the coastal ecosystem here. Mr Agnelo Fernandes, chief officer of Canacona Municipality said that the permission is granted to erect four temporary structures at Rajbhag beach from April 22 to May 25 on certain conditions. He further confirmed that the structures, which are presently erected, are totally illegal and action will be initiated against them within the next twenty-four hours for violating CRZ rules and regulation. He further said that one Shiva B Naik from Rajbhag, Canacona has asked for temporally permission to erect structures for shooting of a film at Rajbhag beach and he was given temporary permission and also told to obtain permission from the Directorate of Tourism and the Entertainment Society of Goa, Panaji. He was also ordered not to obstruct the way of local residents and tourists, who visit the beach. According to local residents the pathway is totally blocked and they are facing a lot of hardships. The locals at Rajbhag allege that the municipal authorities have issued a temporary license after receiving huge sums of money and accuse the authorities of corruption. They fail to understand why the authorities, citing CRZ violations, refuse to grant permission to unemployed local youth to set up temporary shacks during the tourist season, while no action is being taken against the mushrooming of illegal structures along the coastline. Environmental groups in Canacona have accused the state government of encouraging CRZ violators, including some influential individuals and business establishments, in the name of promoting tourism. -- The Navhind Times 20/4/09 page 02 -- GOA CIVIC AND CONSUMER ACTION NETWORK --- promoting civic and consumer rights in Goa --- GOACAN Post Box 187 Margao, Goa 403 601 GOACAN Post Box 78 Mapusa, Goa 403 507 mailto: goa...@bsnl.in --
Re: [Goanet] RELIGION AND SCIENCE
From: Santosh Helekar chimbel...@yahoo.com --- On Sun, 4/19/09, MD mmdme...@gmail.com wrote: Science is no match for religioud belief. Dear Maurice, You are right only about the fact that science is no match for religious belief, and that Fr. Ivo writes in good faith. I suspect, so do you and Gilbert. But good faith is not good science. That is all I am saying. I am forced to say it because of the false claims made by Fr. Ivo, and now Gilbert, that their religion is scientific. I am also trying to provide accurate scientific information about public health and safety in this lay public forum because I consider it my responsibility and duty to do so. ***Good faith can be good science. Which are false claims? That their (my/our) religion is scientific? I never said it. Science is Science and Religion is Religion. There is no conflict between Science and Religion. But the basis of Christianity is historical, therefore it can be confirmed through historical, scientific, archaeological, cultural tools. Dr.Santosh may have the responsibility of struggling against superstitions, but not against Religion... This is not safe and sound, on the contrary Dr.Santosh is misleading his readers and students... We have to fight together against what is unhealthy, not against whatever we write about God, as being bogus and fake... Regards. Fr.Ivo
[Goanet] APPEAL TO NON-RESIDENT GOANS - by Mathany Saldanha
GULF-GOANS e-NEWSLETTER (since 1994) Goa-World.Com Team is pleased to receive the following message from Matanhy Saldanha: --- On Mon, 4/20/09, Matanhy Saldanha matanhysalda...@gmail.com wrote: From: Matanhy Saldanha matanhysalda...@gmail.com Subject: APPEAL TO NON - RESIDENT GOANS Date: Monday, April 20, 2009, 8:50 PM Dear Friends, Right from my young age, I have been greatly in love with my beautiful Goa. The unique topography of the area with lush green fields sandwiched between the blue waters of the Arabian Sea and the dark green woods of the Sahayadris have always fascinated me. That is the reason why from my young days I have either launched or involved myself in every movement to protect and preserve not only the beauty of our land but also its culture and heritage. I am truly not a politician but just a common man who was forced into electoral politics because the powers that be, would not listen to voice of the common man, were not bothered about our hopes and aspirations. It is indeed quite heartening to note that there are thousands of people who share the same concern that I have for Goa. I am truly astounded with the feelings expressed by Non-Resident Goans who have left their motherland to provide for their families but whose heart still beats for Goa. Personally, these feelings expressed by the Non Resident Goans, are a real morale booster and I would sincerely appeal to each and every Non Resident Goan to urge the members of their family and friends, down in Goa to vote for me at these elections, so that we can protect the Goa that we yearn for. I solemnly promise you that your vote for me or the vote solicited by you for me, will not go waste as I shall strive to preserve our bangarachem Goem as I have been doing all these years. It is precisely for this reason that I, Matanhy Saldanha, the UGDP candidate for South Goa, Parliamentary elections, appeal to all my friends, supporters and well wishers in every nook and corner of the world to request your family members and friends living in Goa, to cast their valuable vote on the “Scissors (Kator)” and elect me, Matanhy Saldanha, as their representative. Goa is going through a very difficult phase, which may determine the end of all that is beautiful and dear to us, namely, our land, our culture and our quality of life. Goa needs representatives that love their land and will sincerely fight to protect her from destruction. If you believe I am this person, then please appeal to all known to you to cast their valuable vote for me and vote for “Scissors (Kator)”. If elected, I promise to continue working totally in the service of our land Goa and its people. Thank you and God bless you! Matanhy Saldanha 18th April 2009 http://www.youtube.com/user/placidousa SAY A LITTLE PRAYER FOR A WELL-WISHER FRIEND OF GOA-WORLD TEAM Goa World Goa Mog Goa SuRaj Super Goa (em Português) TGF Writers' Sketchpad www.colaco.net www.goa-world.com/goa/music/ - The Online Music Station for KONKANI Mahableshwar http://www.mahableshwar.com St. Mary's School - Mt Abu, Rajasthan India http://www.abusms.com EXPRESSIONS - THE FLOWER SHOP http://www.goa-world.com/expressions/ http://www.w3.org/2006/10/SSML/papers/paper.pdf GOA MAG ONLINE http://www.goamag.net http://www.renewalsetc.com/renewals.htm CARTOONS BY ALEXYZ
Re: [Goanet] Chicken soup in Anjuna
marlon menezes wrote: I have a clothes washer that uses silver nano particles to disinfect clothes, without needing detergent or hot water. I think in Mervyn's case, it would have to be gold dust. As Mervyn has educated us on this forum, gold is the magical elixir for lot of problems :-) Marlon, Another good use for silver is to coat endotracheal tubes to prevent bacterial colonization and biofilm formation in pneumonia cases. Since gold falls into the same category as chicken soup when it comes to medical treatment, I use my gold only to pay for the treatment. I have no objections to anyone using gold as the treatment :-) Mervyn1650Lobo __ The new Internet Explorer® 8 - Faster, safer, easier. Optimized for Yahoo! Get it Now for Free! at http://downloads.yahoo.com/ca/internetexplorer/
[Goanet] ALEXYZ Daily Cartoon (21Apr09)
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