[Goanet] Devak Khuxi Corta Tem Kuttumbh Jivit
GULF-GOANS e-NEWSLETTER (since 1994) Dev Amchea Thaun Kitem Magta? Xicounn 8 Devak Khuxi Corta Tem Kuttumbh Jivit Kuttumbhant ghovachi stiti kitem? (1) Êka ghovan aplea bailek coxem vagoichem? (2) Êka bapaik kitem zababdari asa? (3) Kuttumbhant bailechi kamgiri kitem? (4) Mai-pae thaun ani bhurguiam thaun Dev kitem magta? (5) Vegllachar ani ghattaspott hea vixant Bibliachi dixtt kitem? (6, 7) 1. Biblia sangta qui ghov kuttumbhacho mostok. (1 Korintkarank 11:3) Êka ghovak êkuch bail asonk zai. Tim caidheachea nodren moriadhen cazar zalolim assonk zai. — 1 Timotak 3:2; Titak 3:1. 2. Apnnancho mog corta tossoch êka ghovan tachea bailecho mog corunk zavo. Jezun tachea patlavdarank coxem vagoilem tossench tannem tika vagounk zai. (Efezkarank 5:25, 28, 29) Tannem kednanch tachea bailek marchem vo khuinchach vatten vaxtt vagoichem nhoi. Bogor, tannem tika man ani respet dacounk zavo. — Koloskarank 3:19; 1 Pedru 3:7. Êk mogall bapui tachea kuttumbhak bhoutik ani atmik purvotto corta 3. Aplea kuttumbhachi callzi ghevunk lagon êka bapaen tokos ghevun kam corunk zai. Tachea bailek ani bhurgeank tannem jevonn, nessonn, ani ghorder divunk zai. Êka bapaen tachea kuttumbhachi atmik goroz purvotto corunk zai. (1 Timotak 5:8) Devachi ani tachea udhexavixant xicoun ghevunk tachea kuttumbhak mozot corunk to fudakar gheta. — Dusri Somurt 6:4-9; Efezkarank 6:4. 4. Êk bail tichea ghovak êk bori xeratinn asonk zai. (Utpoti 2:18) Tinnem tichea ghovak tanchea bhurgeank xicounk ani tarbet corunk adar diunk zai. (Mhonn’nneo 1:8) Êka bailen tichea kuttumbhachi callzi mogan gheuchi axem Jehovah magta. (Mhonn’nneo 31:10, 15, 26, 27; Titak 2:4, 5) Tichea ghovak ticho gunddaecho respet asunk zai. — Efezkarank 5:22, 23, 33. 5. Tanchea mai-paek bhurgeanim khalti zalolem Dev magta. (Efezkarank 6:1-3) Mai-paen tanchea bhurgeank suchovunk ani nittaer ghalunk Devachi apekxa asa. Mai-paen tanchea bhurgeam sangatak Biblia abhyas corunk, tanchea atmik ani manasik gorzanchi callzi ghevunk vell khorchunchi goroz asa. (Dusri Somurt 11:18, 19; Mhonn’nneo 22:6, 15) Mai-pean tachea bhurgeank kedinch cottin vo krur ritin xist divunk nozo. — Koloskarank 3:21. Mai-paen tanchea bhurgeank suchana diunchi ani nittaer hadchem oxem Dev apekxa corta 6. Zednam cazari sangateank ektaim ravonk somoxa eta, tannim Bibliachi budhball laun ghevunk proyotn corunk zai. Biblia amcam boll corta mog dacounk ani bhogsunk. (Koloskarank 3:12-14) Kirkoll somoxa sodovunk lagon Devacho sôbd vegllacharak urba dinam. Punn êk bail tichea ghovak soddunk vinchta, zor (1) to darruncaen tachea kuttumbhak samballunk innkar corta, (2) to itlo markuro asa qui tichi bholaiki ani jivit soncoxttant asat, vo (3) tacho otyant virodh tika Jehovachi bhokti corunk osadhya corta. — 1 Korintkarank 7:12, 13. 7. Kazari sangathi êka mekak visvaxi asunk zai. Devachea virodhak ani êkleachea sangathea virodhak produvar êk patok zaun asa. (Hebrevank 13:4) Cazara bhailo loingik somondh ghattaspottak êkuch xastriy buniyadh asa zi porot cazar zaunk suttavem corta. (Matev 19:6-9; Romkarank 7:2, 3) Zednam lok Dev vochonanchea buniadhe bogor ghottospott ghetat ani connam dusrea lagim cazar zatat tednam Jehovah tem dusvas corta. — Malakias 2:14-16. 1996 Vorsak porgott kelolem http://www.watchtower.org/kt/rq/article_08.htm http://www.goa-world.com www.colaco.net http://www.flickr.com/photos/venantius/ www.goa-world.com/goa/ music/ - The Online Music Station for KONKANI http://www.konkanisongbook.com/ THANKS TO ALL FOR YOUR PRAYERS http://www.jrsbible.info/bible.htm Promoting Tiatr Tiatrists since 1994 http://tiatracademy.blogspot.com/ Gulf-Goans e-Newsletter http://www.yahoogroups.com/group/gulf-goans EXPRESSIONS - THE FLOWER SHOP http://www.goa-world.com/expressions/ UPCOMING EVENT OF THE TIATRIST FATERNITY Souza Ferrao’s Birth Centenary Celebrations http://www.arsouzaferrao.com/about%20ferrao3.html The function at Ponda will be held on 20th July, 2009 at 3.30 p.m at the Rajiv Kala Mandir. Shri. Vishnu Suria Wagh, Vice-Chairman of Rajiv Kala Mandir will be the Chief Guest. On 22nd July, 2009, at 3.30 p.m. the function is scheduled at the Hanuman Theatre at Mapusa where the popular tiatr artiste H. Britton will be the Chief Guest while the concluding function will be held on 24th July, 2009 at 6.30 p.m. at DMK auditorium, Kala Academy, Panjim.
[Goanet] Theology of the Body seminar at SVD Seminary Raia from 24 July 7pm to 26 July 6pm.
Theology of the Body seminar at SVD Seminary Raia from 24 July 7pm to 26 July 6pm. 25 years have passed since Pope John Paul II delivered the last talk of his landmark catechesis, known as the Theology of the Body, yet very few people have even heard of this teaching. For the sake of the future of humanity, it is of vital importance that this teaching be made known and be lived by as many people as possible. The Couple to Couple League of India has taken up this challenging task by scheduling a series of seminars on the Theology of the Body. *Hailed as t*he landmark catechesis of our dearly beloved Pope John Paul II on love, sex and marriage, it is not only for married people but for all those who want to understand the meaning of life and how we must live it. If you have a body, the Theology of the Body is for you. In other words it is for for *every-body*! Next Seminar (organised by the Catholic Charismatic Renewal - Goa) will be at SVD Seminary, Raia from 24 July 7pm to 26 July 6pm. For Registrations and details contact Francisco Xavier Fernandes at 9822687736 Or Vally Anna Coelho at 2410565 (office) 9326128259 (Anna) 9850489544 (Vally) -- Valentine (Vally) Anna Coelho Co-Directors, The Couple to Couple League (of India) for Natural Family Planning
[Goanet] Eclipse of the century
Never in the history of the world has a solar eclipse covered with darkness during the daytime such large populous regions of Asia as the solar eclipse of the July 22 will do in a few days time. Indians and Chinese will watch it with fascination since the eclipse will be visible in their two countries only, The path of total eclipse enters India at Surat (Gujarat) from the Indian Ocean , travels through mid India and leaves Assam to enter China . It passes through mid China and leaves China at Shangai for the Pacific Ocean. What does this sky spectacle portend for India and China ? Let the superstitious do their guesswork. Antonio
[Goanet] Goan beneficiaries too want work halted
http://www.oheraldo.in/pagedetails.asp?nid=24687cid=2 *Goan beneficiaries too want work halted* HERALD REPORTER Goan beneficiaries too want work halted HERALD REPORTER MARGAO, JULY 17 In an interesting development on the Rawanfond rehabilitation row, displaced Goans who were allotted plots at the Rawanfond rehabilitation site have asked the government to immediately halt the ongoing rehabilitation work in the paddy fields opposite the KRC station and also withdraw the plots allotted to non-Goans. In a representation signed by seven persons, they called for thorough and impartial investigations into the allotment of plots in the fields. They pointed out that the structures owned by them on the Navelim side of the junction have been completely demolished during the junction widening, and claimed that structures on the Margao side, belonging to 90 per cent non-Goans were partly demolished. “All these non-Goans, whose structures were partly demolished have restarted their regular business again, only a little behind at the junction itself”, they said. Saying that these non-Goans from Margao side of the junction have been paid handsome compensation and a free plot of 50 sq mts each, though some of them have officially lost just 11 sq mts, they pointed out that some of these non-Goans have lost just the steps of their houses, some have lost just a portion of the front shad, but all of them have got equal land like the Goans. “This is grave injustice for us Goans in our own land’, they said, while requesting for a re-survey of the area and cancellation of the allotment done to these non-Goans whose structures are partially demolished and who have restarted their business at the junction. -- Please post your comments on my Blog: http://goanidentity.blogspot.com/ Please also see below: 1. Benaulim Village Action Committee: http://www.bvacbenaulim.blogspot.com/ 2. Rape of Goa : http://www.parrikar.com/blog/the-rape-of-goa/ 3. Rape of Chicalim : http://rapeofchicalim.wordpress.com/ 4. Boycott Cidade de Goa : http://boycotthotelcidadedegoa.blogspot.com/ 5. MAND - an adivasi-rights resource centre : http://mandgoa.blogspot.com/ 6. EVERY GOAN SHOULD SEE THIS VIDEO: http://infochangeindia.org/Infochange-documentary.html
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Curry leaves Message: 1 Date: Sat, 18 Jul 2009 00:46:11 + (GMT) From: JoeGoaUk joego...@yahoo.co.uk Subject: [Goanet] Identify these leaves/plant To: goa...@goanet.org Cc: goan-...@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: 529797.75431...@web25904.mail.ukl.yahoo.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Identify these leaves/plant http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk20/3708565642/sizes/l/ ? Clue: I think this is also?found in Shou-chudda joego...@yahoo.co.uk for Goa NRI related info... http://in.groups.yahoo.com/group/GOAN-NRI/ For Goan Video Clips http://youtube.com/joeukgoa In Goa, Dial? 1 0 8 For Hospital, Police, Fire etc
Re: [Goanet] vzaar Video Dispatches: terror in Mumbai
2009/7/17 Naguesh Bhatcar sgbhat...@hotmail.com Well, finally they did establish a special SPG/Black Commando unit in Mumbai, fairly recently. Till November of last year, it was the Politicians that felt the need for protection by these elite commandos! Millions are spent in protecting these good for nothing politicians. During the uprising in Punjab in the 80s, the police force there also was fighting the terrorists with these rifles! Julio Ribeiro restored some parity by arming the Punjab Police with modern equipment. Naguesh Bhatcar sgbhat...@hotmail.com RESPONSE: The Enfield 303 is an excellent rifle for distance shooting and was also a snipers weapon of choice in the old days; in India it is used by many security guards at Banks and also by the Police and some army units. One get get only one shot at a time and then rebolt the next bullet into the barrelno match for an automatic or sub automatic gun at all. It is pretty useless for house to house or close combat, the Kalashnikov or the US M 16 is now the preferred weapon. Kalashnikov's used all over the World, easily procured. For those interested go to this site:- Excerpt: At the present time almost all initial flaws of the M16 are bugged out, and it is considered among the best assault rifles in the world. While its reliability in the harsh conditions cannot match reliability of its main rival, the Kalashnikov AK-47 http://world.guns.ru/assault/as01-e.htm and AK-74 http://world.guns.ru/assault/as02-e.htm, it is still a quite reliable rifle, especially when well maintained. It is also comfortable to fire and quite accurate. http://world.guns.ru/assault/as18-e.htm http://kalashnikov.guns.ru/ -- DEV BOREM KORUM Gabe Menezes. London.
[Goanet] Hello Reena
I haven't heard from you in such a long time. I hope everything is alright. Please do write and let me know how you are getting on. best, selma
[Goanet] Invitation from Anagha Wachasunder Pratishthan, Porvorim Goa
Dear All, Following is an Invitation from Anagha Wachasunder Pratishthan, Porvorim Goa This year too we have organised our annual fuction on account of Anagha`s 9th anniversery. As usual there will be validictory fuction for all the winners of our various programme. It will be followed by a talk by well known marathi writer Mr. Pravin Davane. All of you along with your friends family are cordilly invited. VENUE: Mennezes Braganza Hall, Above Central Library,Near ferry boat jetty Panaji TIME: 10 am DATE:19th .July.2009 From: Shreya Wachasunder President Anagha Wachasunder Pratishthan Parvari,Goa Shrikant Vinayak Barve Convener: We Love Ayurved 9403175973 See the Web#39;s breaking stories, chosen by people like you. Check out Yahoo! Buzz. http://in.buzz.yahoo.com/
[Goanet] Perspective on Migrants for Goa
Date: Fri, 17 Jul 2009 11:06:05 +0400 From: Arwin Mesquita arwinmesqu...@gmail.com An argument we sometimes hear, is that Goa needs Migrants as Migrants are doing jobs that Goans do not want to do! I want to put this into perspective: Surely this is true but then, there are un-necessary employment opportunities that we create to facilitate migrants. For example, is it not true that with every mega-project (which mostly are for non-goans) we are not only destroying/polluting Goa changing the demographics, but also are bringing in some many migrants into Goa; for this unnecessary development? Also on other employment opportunities, have our corrupt/selfish politicians identified employment needs for Goans first, before approving any industries/companies? Mario asks: Hey, Arwin, 1. What exactly is an unnecessary employment opportunity for someone who is willing to work to support their family? Aren't you doing the same, that too, in the UAE? Don't you see the irony in that? 2. Are most mega projects really for non-Goans? If so the Goans need to wake up and make money promoting and selling them since there seems to be a demand for such projects. I know several Goan builders who have done so. 3. Wasn't it Goans who made money by selling the land to the developers? 4. Do you think people are spending crores to build unnecessary developments? 5. Are the corrupt/selfish politicians preventing Goans from working in Goa? Weren't these politicians elected by Goans? 6. Are you aware that Goans have been migrating and changing the demographics of other countries for over a hundred years, even when the wonderful Portuguese dictators were making it like heaven on earth? 7. Regarding polluting/destroying Goa, isn't that a matter of electing honest politicians who will implement rational building policies or enforce those that already exist? 8. Why aren't the Village Panchayats and Gram Sabhas doing their job of protecting the interests of the people in their areas? Yeah, yeah, yeah. I know. The point is there are already systems in place in Goa, are there not? The problem is they are not working properly because of the dishonesty and corruption of elected officials. Guess who elected them? BTW, I'm still waiting for Selma's post about corrupt and useless Gram Sabhas and why they cannot control untrammeled building in Goa titled Who the bleep cares about grass roots politics in Goa:-))
[Goanet] The perils of unbridled growth --- my article in Herald today
Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2009 23:31:34 -0700 (PDT) From: Samir Kelekar samir_kele...@yahoo.com http://oheraldo.in/pagedetails.asp?nid=24632cid=14 Excerpt: The pursuit of success in the modern world can lead you into a dangerous dead end, points out SAMIR KELEKAR. Mario reacts: WHT? This from a person who pursues success in the modern world:-)) Excerpt: For instance, a person running a publicly traded company has to show returns every quarter so that the company’s stock price does not come down. In the process, all other issues such as health and even environment take second place. Mario asks: I think the best investors try to predict the company's long term net cash flow and adjust their buy and sell decisions accordingly rather than wait for the company to publish their short term quarterly results, but that's for another discussion. However, can a company achieve consistent growth over the long haul by ignoring issues such as health and the environment? I don't think so. If they do, watch out. Excerpt: It is this attitude of showing growth, come what may, is what has led to the current recession. When finance companies such as Lehman Brothers wanted to show more and more growth, they came up with voodoo loan schemes where people who didn’t have the capacity to repay loans were given huge loans to buy houses. Further, these loans were bundled into securities, which Lehman and others sold to other companies. Companies such as AIG insured these securities. The booming housing prices was another bait shown, and people thought that they could make money because the price of the houses they buy would keep going up. As was quite likely to happen, people started defaulting on their monthly EMIs because they were actually not creditworthy. Things came full circle when these securities lost value, with bank after bank going bankrupt. Housing prices came crashing down. Even a giant insurance company like AIG had to bailed out with billions of dollars just to keep it alive. Mario observes: Hmmmn! And where is Lehman Bros now? Aren't these examples of how NOT to do business? By the way, AIGs losses came mostly from their speculative and risky hedge funds, not from their insurance business. Excerpt: The point is that very few questioned the economic sense of all this. Because asking uncomfortable questions is just not the done thing in the big world of economics. The pressure to show growth rules above everything else. Mario asks: If this were true how is it that the vast majority of banks and insurance companies did not have financial problems and did not need to be bailed out? Excerpt: In a similar vein, in a recent discussion about the ill effects of mining, a friend argued that having more steel – which is a product of the iron extracted from mining – in the economy is good for automakers who can then offer cars at cheaper rates. Thus the automobile industry will flourish, other automobile part vendors will flourish, and so on. Who cares if the environment in some part of the world goes bad? Mario observes: a) The people who live within the environment affected b) The mining companies who would be out of business in most parts of the world if they ignored environmental issues. Apparently, except in Goa. We were recently informed by Carmen Miranda that the mining companies in Goa are not following the law to rehabilitate open pit mines after they have extracted the ore. By the way, I hope more Goans will join Carmen during her upcoming trip to Goa in confronting the system that is not working. Making them rehabilitate the used mines is a much more positive approach than blocking economically lucrative mining. Excerpt: What this constant rush towards revenue doesn’t take into account is that the whole world is interconnected, and it won’t be too long when a bad effect on environment in one place affects another place. Mario observes: I guess the answer would be to avoid bad effects on the environment once bad is properly defined. Excerpt: And cars are no good if there are no roads and infrastructure, and no safety precautions. Of course, the banks have vested interest in the car industry because all these cars will be bought on loans, and banks make money via the interest. Mario observes: Isn't the answer to build more roads and infrastructure and provide tens of thousands of jobs while doing so? Is it just me, or is common sense becoming all too uncommon? Excerpt: The same argument that my friend makes can be extended to argue that we should encourage thieves because that will benefit the security industry. Let more people die so that the funeral industry will flourish. Indeed, in countries such as US and Japan, the funeral industry, I am told, is very lucrative. Mario responds: No, the same argument cannot be made because it would be patently absurd. In the former case the population is being helped, in the latter
[Goanet] Anti Cancer Diet
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Re: [Goanet] Contacto Goa this Tuesday, 21th July 2009
Querida Nalini, Eu sei (tenho sido informado pelas fontes bem informadas) que to és neta do meu Tio/primo Mouzinho. Pois, és tu filha au Roberto ou Pedro? E, onde é voce baseada? Alfredo From: nalini_portu...@yahoo.com To: goa...@goanet.org Date: Fri, 17 Jul 2009 00:18:39 -0400 Subject: [Goanet] Contacto Goa this Tuesday, 21th July 2009 Contacto Goa this Tuesday, 21th July 2009 The 32nd episode will be broadcast on: RTP international - INDIA, PORTUGAL and other places: Tuesday, 21th July 2009 INDIA - 1:00pm PORTUGAL - 08:30am e 9:30pm Wednesday, 22th July 2009 INDIA 02:00am and 05:30am PORTUGAL 01:00am Timetable for other countries will be available on-line: www.rtp.pt While in Portugal, the popular saints (St. Antonio, S. Joao and S. Pedro) are celebrated eating sardines and drinking sangria, in Goa, the same feasts are celebrated in a much peculiar way. Find out about it in our next program. Note: Please note that the above timings are based on information available on the RTP web site at the time of sending out this release. We suggest that viewers reconfirm exact timings by checking the website www.rtp.pt on the actual day of broadcast or switch on TV earlier. This episode was directed and edited by Francisco Veres Machado, presented and produced by Nalini Elvino de Sousa, photographed by Jude Fernandes, Nuno Oliveira and Prasheela Acherekar. Further episodes of the third series of Contacto Goa will continue to be broadcast every 15 days, on Tuesdays at the same time, as given above. The Contacto team can be contacted by e-mail at contacto...@yahoo.co.in or nalini_portu...@yahoo.com Your comments are always welcome. If you want to watch any of the previous episodes of CONTACTO GOA you can find them on the webpage of RTP at : http://ww1.rtp.pt/multimedia/index.php?tvprog=20155 _ More than messages–check out the rest of the Windows Live™. http://www.microsoft.com/windows/windowslive/
[Goanet] Goa - Inquisition
One of colonial Goa's dark periods is considered the Inquisition. I do not defended the inquisition, but maintain that it provided a political-legal purpose for upholding law-and-order; serving as a deterrence for improper social behavior specially by the authorities (including the mostly Whites who lived above the law); and balanced the power of the ruling colonial troika - military, civilian and religious administration. Many Goans consider the period when the Inquisition was suspended (1774-1779) as an enlightened period for Portugal and Goa - the Pombal regime. Yet the historical book on Goa (An Historical and Archaeological Sketch of the City of Goa by Jose Nicolau da Fonseca) written in 1878, described the following as the state of Goa during the period 1774-1779 Pg 183 - In 1775 the population of the City of Goa was reduced to about 1,600 souls, of whom 1198 were Christians. The rapid decline of the period is attribute to the expulsion of the Jesuits from Goa, who maintained the little commerce and the functioning of the various institutes including the Royal Hospital and various other establishments in the city of Goa. In 1776 when the British Consul, Mr. Abraham Parson visited Goa, he noted, The religious houses of the Jesuits were shut up. Many beautiful mansions ... vacant and unoccupied. Pg 185 - Pombal having receive the report on Goa, resolved to transfer it (the capital) to Mormugao. The work was commenced in 1777 The government had recourse to several measures of an oppressive character for accomplishing the work. All the village communities of the three districts of Goa were required to contribute, each a certain sum of money and certain number of workmen for the erection of houses in the city. ... The men who were forced to work for the state were in general poor natives living mainly on the produce of the soil they owned and cultivated. They were loath to abandon their field and tear themselves from the bosom of their families, They were more-over afraid of going to the city and exposing themselves to the violence of the epidemic which was raging there. But these considerations were of no avail... they had to yield or suffer themselves to be forcible dragged to the city by the soldiers and there made to work under the inspection of an armed force ... The evil they had dreaded, at last overtook them. Most of them were seized with the prevalent disease and not a few fell victims to it. We learn from the official records of the period that out of 1,625 workmen imported from Salsette, 665 fell sick and 58 died, and that too within a space of a few months from August 1778 till the close of the year. Many and bitter were the complaints addressed to the Throne by the unfortunate people who were thus pressed into the government service and Pg 186 - who suffered such severe hardships. And earnestly did they pray for the redress of their grievances, which told on them more heavily that the misfortunes caused by a raid or incursions of the Maratha chiefs. The court of Lisbon was inexorable and insisted on a vigorous prosecution of the work In spite of these measures, the work of rebuilding the city made but slight progress. The above raises the QUESTIONS: Was the 'Inquisition-suspended period' that much of a relief to the local population as claimed? Would the threat from the Inquisition on the rulers, saved the local population from the severe measures imposed on them by the colonial government during this period? Is not the sample of statistics of the victims who died in the four months above, appear to be close to or exceed the total number of fatal victims of the entire Goa-inquisition? Is the forced-labor in the 'Inquisition-suspended period' (1774-1779) what Alfredo De Mello refers; when he MISTAKENLY compares the Goa-inquisition to Stalin's regime? Regards, GL
[Goanet] Songs of the Survivors - by Yvonne Vaz Ezdani
GULF-GOANS e-NEWSLETTER (since 1994) Songs of the Survivors http://broadwaybooksgoa.com NEW BOOK TELLS OF THE UNTOLD STORY OF GOANS IN BURMA Goan overseas migration has been studied and written on fairly extensively, yet some aspects of it still await to be adequately understood, suggests a new book on the subject. The 289-page just-published book looks at migration by Goans to an unusual part of the planet -- in Burma. It focuses on a dramatic point in history, the World War II Japanese invasion of the land now known as Myanmar, and the tumultuous impact this had on lives of the Goans settled there. 'Songs of the Survivors' is edited by ex-teacher Yvonne Vaz Ezdani, who herself lived in Burma till the early 1980s, along with a large extended family from Saligao that has largely since resettled here. Ezdani keeps busy with counselling students, and her two daughters Shannon and Rachel are settled in Australia. Writes editor Ezdani, In an instant (during the War in 1942), the Goans' comfortable and serene lives were shattered and they were plunged into chaos and fear. Many trekked back to India, through jungles and mountains and streams, and the stories of this generation, slowly fading away with age and memory, is recorded in this book. But some Goans even decided to stay on during Japanese occupation. When one reads their stories, the perils of migration and its impact become all that more stark, a reality we often forget here. It is priced Rs 295 and its sole distributor is the 18th June Road (Panjim)-based Broadway. This book, edited by Vaz-Ezdani, is collaboratively written by two dozen contributors (besides herself). Some 20 contributors were born and grew up in British-ruled Burma. She writes: This book may be about Goans in Burma, but it also seeks to record tales of determination and survival that are relevant to the human spirit everywhere. The Japanese occupation years contrast drastically with the enviable lifestyle lived by Goan expats in the enchanting country of wide rivers, green, rain-washed paddy fields, pagodas... and a thousand hills. What makes this text an unusual one is that it has brought together the small-but-connected community of 'Burma Goans', and could also help link up more who were connected to that distant part of East Asia because of migration. In pre-release comments, author Dr Maria Aurora Couto said these memoirs illuminate the pioneering spirit, humanity, courage and faith that have sustained Goa through the ages. Sanskrit scholar and specialist in Indian drama Dr Pramod Kale called this, A piece of oral history that documents poignantly the travails and suffering imposed on the ordinary people by wars. It reminds one of Brecht's Saga of Mother Courage and Her Children. To be released on December 29, 2007 by NRI Commissioner Eduardo Faleiro at 4.30 pm at the Xavier Centre of Historical Research, Alto Porvorim, the book is published by Goa 1556, a venture of journalist Frederick Noronha. ENDS WHAT THE OTHERS SAY ... Heartwarming and inspirational. These memoirs illuminate the pioneering spirit, humanity, courage and faith that have sustained Goa through the ages. -- Dr. Maria Aurora Couto, author of Goa: A Daughter's Story (Viking/Penguin 2004) couto.aurora at gmail.com A piece of oral history that documents poignantly the travails and suffering imposed on the ordinary people by wars. It reminds one of Brecht's Saga of Mother Courage and Her Children. -- Pramod Kale, Ph.D., (Univ of Wisconsin) Sanskrit, Marathi and Hindi scholar specialising in Indian drama. pram203 at yahoo.com Vivid recollections of an exodus, hardships and determination. -- Dr Délio de Mendonça, director, Xavier Centre of Historical Research. deliom at dataone.in I had no idea of the experiences or extant of the (Goan) community in Burma A brilliant portrayal of the experiences of the Goan diaspora in Burma during the Second World War, for which we clearly have to acknowledge all contributions and fine editing by Yvonne Vaz. -- Cliff Pereira FRGS, Historical Geographer, London. cliffjpereira at hotmail.com `Songs of the Survivors' brings to the world the difficult experience of the Goan diaspora in Burma during WW II, but also illustrates a little-remembered chapter in human history a valuable addition to Goan Studies as well as to the history of that period in Asia . -- Dr Robert S Newman, anthropologist and author of Of Umbrellas Godesses and Dreams kachhua2 at hotmail.com `Songs of the Survivors' sheds much-needed light on a little known facet of Goan diasporan history, and will take a treasured place in my library. Victor Rangel-Ribeiro, author of `Tivolem', Milkweed National Fiction Prize, and ``one of the twenty notable first novels'' of 1997-98 by Booklist, journal of the American Library Association vrangelrib at yahoo .com CO CONTACT THE EDITOR ... Yvonne Vaz Ezdani, 892 D'Mello Vaddo,
[Goanet] Goa's Secret Police Harass Rama Velip
Over the past two weeks Rama Velip of Colamb village in Sanguem Taluka is being harassed by Goa's Secret Police - CID (Criminal Intelligence Department). Secret police has been visiting the house of Rama Velip and seeks to know about future plans of anti-mining movement. There are phone calls made at Rama Velip's residence at very odd hours in the night and ask him to report to Quepem Police Station. Rama Velip is heading Gawda, Kunbi, Velip and Dhangar Fedearation (GAKUVED) unit under the jurisdiction of Rivona Panchayat and in the middle of resistance movement against mining in Sanguem and Quepem Talukas of South Goa. CID officer who is involved in harassing Rama Velip is one Premanand Phaldessai attached to Quepem Police Station. He hails from Sanvordem and according to the sources his family members are involved in business of transportation of Iron Ore through ownership of trucks. _ Stay updated! Add Facebook, LinkedIn, MySpace Hi5 friends to your Windows Live network instantly. Add Now! http://profile.live.com/webactivities/?mkt=en-in
[Goanet] FW: 10,000 songs from 1904 to 2008
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a collection of music from 1904 to 2008 in which you can
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the item number.
They are in English Spanish, etc. Take your pick and enjoy!!!
http://www.planetarei.com..br/100anos/index.htm
[Goanet] No where to run!
India has recently lent money to 80 Indian compnies to buy 350.000ha in Africa ( Ethiopia, Kenya and Madagaskar of all places) to grow food ! Fears about food security as result of impact of climate change has lead to 30 million hectares bought up so far in poorer countries by rich countries, and farming is now big business to produce biofuels, food and other goods - talk about land grabbing and neo-colonialism Meanwhile in Goa, good farm land and paddyfields are being converted into horrific overcrowded over-built areas, and mining activities convert the rest of good farming land and paddyfields into deserts. Millions of tones of mining rejects are also polluting the rivers and killing fish. Aquifers are being pumped out at a rate of at least 10cubic meters of water per tone of ore, wells are drying up left right and centre (and no body knows how many so far!) , for the benefit of just a powerful *minority* of people like the mine oweners and building contractors who are getting rich by creating environmental havoc in our beautiful little Goa! The impact of climate change has already started to be felt around the world, but the scientific predictions are that it will get much much worse and faster than we ever imagined! So very soon, when the sea levels rise as result of global warming, vast areas of the coastal zones will be flooded including in Goa - so there go all your 5 stars hotels and every other big and small , legal and illegal construction along rivers and coastal zones. You will not be able to even move to the interior of Goa, because the mining activities would have transformed the whole of the interior of Goa into mega red and black rock craters with no water to drink, no top soil or access to water to grow food, no shade as all the trees will have been cut, and the temperatures will rise probably as high as in the Sahara desert. Probably your rice and fish and cocunuts (and perhaps even fenny!) will be coming all the way from Ethiopia!.where by the way, millions often dye of hunger because of draughts. *At that point dear fellow goans, there will be nowhere to run!* ...no matter how much money you have in your pockets! The point is that we all know that the model of development in Goa is unsustainable. We also know that there is no such thing as sustainable mining. So we must do something about it NOW, before it is too late! Besides, the time has come for everyone around the world to do their bit where ever they are to prevent serious impacts from climate change. So in Goa, to start with I suggest that we demand that the process of FAST PHASING-OUT of mining in Goa starts immediately together with immediate steps to rehabilitate the land by the miners, and supervised by expert NGOs. With the bunch of imcompetents in power, Goa Government cannot be trusted to supervise anything ! When we achieved that, tackling all the other issues afflicting Goa will be a piece of cake! Yes, I am not jocking ! ! Carmen
[Goanet] Beating the drum for the Moringa tree! - Enviro Australia
http://74.125.155.132/search?q=cache:WnHC3va6Q9gJ:www.enviro.org.au/article_ moringaTree.asp+moringacd=3hl=enct=clnkgl=au Hi Goanetters, Here's some information. Cheers, rubygoes
[Goanet] Goa borrows Punjab law to safeguard NRIs' property - Thanks
Dear Goans, Ref below press release. Giving Credit where it is due, I on behalf of many Non Resident Goans would like to thank all those who enabled, the passing of the Law to safeguard NRI Goan Properties. We hope for many other measures to benefit the NRG community and possibly bring many of them back home, to Goa. Special Thanks should go to the Commissioner of NRI Affairs - Mr. Eduardo Faleiro, Mr. U.D Kamat, Mr. John D'Silva and all the MLA's who proposed, seconded voted in favour of the bill. To re-iterate my long standing view, Non Resident Goans are key; should we want to realise our true vision for Goa and by working together with resident Goans, we all can do wonders for Goa. Arwin (UAE) Goa borrows Punjab law to safeguard NRIs' property Submitted by admin4 on 17 July 2009 - 3:46pm. India News By IANS, Panaji : Goa has borrowed a law from Punjab for safeguarding the property of Goans working or settled abroad, the state's commissioner for non-resident Indian (NRI) affairs Eduardo Faleiro said Friday. The Goa Buildings (Lease, Rent and Eviction) Control (Amendment) Act, that came into force in June, was largely modelled on the East Punjab Rent Restriction (Amendment) Act which allows NRIs to recover possession of their rented premises through speedy summary trial, Faleiro told media persons here. Former Punjab chief minister Amarinder Singh had suggested the legislation to me, which I forwarded to the state government. This law will certainly help to safeguard the property of our Goan brothers who are working or settled abroad, the former minister of state for external affairs said, noting that Punjab had the best measures in place for dealing with NRIs. Earlier they (NRIs) would have to wait for longer periods of time demanded by the conventional judicial process. With this amendment, the cases are summarily heard by the Rent Controller's Office and there is no appeal, Faleiro said. He also said that his department in consultation with the state government's law department had drafted a Goa (Non-Resident Goans) Welfare Bill, 2009, by which a fund would be created for payment of pension to members who complete 60 years and provide financial assistance to members who are unable to work for more than two years at a stretch. We expect this bill will be introduced in the forthcoming session of the Goa assembly. The fund will be created with the help of a government grant as well as a small contribution from NRGs wishing to avail this facility, Faleiro said. He sought to refute reports that the economic recession was forcing a lot of Goans settled in the Gulf countries out of employment. These reports are unfounded. The global recession has hit the automobile and construction industry in the Gulf, but few Goans are employed in these industries, he said. -- Please post your comments on my Blog: http://goanidentity.blogspot.com/ Please also see below: 1. Benaulim Village Action Committee: http://www.bvacbenaulim.blogspot.com/ 2. Rape of Goa : http://www.parrikar.com/blog/the-rape-of-goa/ 3. Rape of Chicalim : http://rapeofchicalim.wordpress.com/ 4. Boycott Cidade de Goa : http://boycotthotelcidadedegoa.blogspot.com/ 5. MAND - an adivasi-rights resource centre : http://mandgoa.blogspot.com/ 6. EVERY GOAN SHOULD SEE THIS VIDEO: http://infochangeindia.org/Infochange-documentary.html
Re: [Goanet] Difference: Gulf Non Resident Goans vs. Goa’s Migrants
Since this debate started elsewhere in cyberspace, I think dragging it mid-way onto Goanet is unfair to those who have not been following the other side of the debate. Whatever we may say, it is ironic that those who migrate the most from Goa (UAE, US, Bahamas, wherever) also tend to be the most critical migrants into Goa. One justification is that Goans are a small population, and don't swamp other, but get swamped themselves. It all depends on how we frame the issue. I guess if you ask the natives of Byculla or Dhobi Talao what *they* think of Goan migration, the answer would be different. To my mind, the 'we are being swamped' issue is a big red herring used to mask a number of other contradictions within Goan society, and problems we face today. Fact is, one Goan won't trust another -- based on caste, religion or whatever. So why scapegoat the migrant, more so when so many migrants from Goa have landed all over the globe? The emotionalism injected into the debate, by the use of words like anti-Goan critics is self-evident. Someone doesn't become anti Goan just because he has a differing perspective from yours. Gulf migrants might not have voting rights, but many Goan expats in many other parts of the globe do. They buy land there too. If the Goan migrants left due to lack of sufficient opportunities, so did those migrating from other regions into Goa; they don't come here for a picnic (except tourists!) Would you support a fair and just migrant control policy for Karnataka, Maharashtra, Delhi and the many other places that Goans migrant to, both within and out of India? If so, what happens to the idea of a federal nation, one which so many Goans have gained so much from? Are mega-projects and politicians with vote-banks unique to Goa? When a Rajan Parrikar supports an Obama in a US election, does he become a vote bank too? Anyone whose heart bleeds for Goa could do more than give sermons via cyberspace. Give up your fancy lifestyles, and high salaries, come here and work for change. I'm sure you would be as welcome as the in-migrants you so stridently deride! And btw, a friend (Goan) told of a DNA test he had done, which showed his ancestors migrated out of Africa, via Anatolia in Turkey, and thence into North India, to settle in Aldona! Another friend said his (Goan) brother's DNA tests showed his links with, hold your breath, Uzbekistan and South India! Haven't we (and our ancestors) overwhelmed others who were in Goa before we reached here, in turn? FN 2009/7/17 Arwin Mesquita arwinmesqu...@gmail.com --- On Thu, 7/16/09, augusto pinto pinto...@gmail.com wrote to Arwin: I find it amazing that a person who earns his living by being an outsider, bhaillo, migrant, ghanti of the Arabs where you live, is so vehement in your condemnation of Indian migrants to Goa. I suggest that you answer this question satisfactorily, dear migrant to the UAE, before you dare attack migrants to Goa. Arwin wrote: This is for the benefit of the Few Ignorant Anti-Goan Critics who have conveniently, not yet understood the difference between Gulf Non-Resident Goans and Goa’s migrants. See following facts on Gulf Non Resident Goans (NRG’s) Goa’s Migrants:
[Goanet] Re- Perspective on Migrants in Goa
Hi Mario; Please see my replies below your questions Mario asks: Hey, Arwin, 1. What exactly is an unnecessary employment opportunity for someone who is willing to work to support their family? Aren't you doing the same, that too, in the UAE? Don't you see the irony in that? Arwin: No Irony. I will work and leave the region.. Here in the Gulf whatever happens the local political power,rights.land is protected. No Guarantee migrants will do the same in Goa. Will the USA should open doors to everyone who wants to support their families? Supporting Families is not the issue but it should not affect the right to decent living of the people in the host regions. 2. Are most mega projects really for non-Goans? If so the Goans need to wake up and make money promoting and selling them since there seems to be a demand for such projects. I know several Goan builders who have done so. Arwin-Goa does not need mega projects (see further below for reasons) 3. Wasn't it Goans who made money by selling the land to the developers? Arwin: Yes agree that’s why we need to spread awareness of the ill-effects of the same. As you are aware people in many parts of the world changed their behaviors after being convinced of the negative effects. E.g. the Anti-Aids campaign in Thailand 4. Do you think people are spending crores to build unnecessary developments? Arwin-Mega Projects for example are necessary for the builders personal pockets/bank accounts but un-necessary for Goa as it not only destroys the environment/ecolody, contaminates land/water. Traffic jams but also increasingly reduces the local population into a minority; also attracts loads of migrants who then create slums, group into vote-banks etc 5. Are the corrupt/selfish politicians preventing Goans from working in Goa? Weren't these politicians elected by Goans? Arwin-Yes and to repeat my point in 3 above.. why we need to spread awareness of the ill-effects of the same. 6. Are you aware that Goans have been migrating and changing the demographics of other countries for over a hundred years, even when the wonderful Portuguese dictators were making it like heaven on earth? Arwin-Migrations are taking place yes but today (1) Internationally countries are putting in policies to retaian identities e.g. USA, Australia, France etc (2) Locally States in India have large areas/populations where migrants will integrate; Goa is not the same and has to be treated different. Bottom line the hypocrisy is that everyone is talking about Globalisation but at the same time taking measures to keep thier identities e.g. the Western Countries, Other Indian Status. 7. Regarding polluting/destroying Goa, isn't that a matter of electing honest politicians who will implement rational building policies or enforce those that already exist? Arwin-Yes and to repeat my point in 3 above.. why we need to spread awareness of the ill-effects of the same. 8. Why aren't the Village Panchayats and Gram Sabhas doing their job of protecting the interests of the people in their areas? Arwin-Awareness again -- Please post your comments on my Blog: http://goanidentity.blogspot.com/ Please also see below: 1. Benaulim Village Action Committee: http://www.bvacbenaulim.blogspot.com/ 2. Rape of Goa : http://www.parrikar.com/blog/the-rape-of-goa/ 3. Rape of Chicalim : http://rapeofchicalim.wordpress.com/ 4. Boycott Cidade de Goa : http://boycotthotelcidadedegoa.blogspot.com/ 5. MAND - an adivasi-rights resource centre : http://mandgoa.blogspot.com/ 6. EVERY GOAN SHOULD SEE THIS VIDEO: http://infochangeindia.org/Infochange-documentary.html
[Goanet] 10000 songs from 1904
Hi Eric, The link needs a slight edit. It should read http://www.planetarei.com.br/100anos/index.htm Happy and enjoyable listening to all -- Tony Tony de Sa Ph: +91 832 2470 148 M: +91 9975162897 E: tonyd...@gmail.com The future will be better tomorrow. - Dan Quayle
[Goanet] Fw: [Goa Research Net] Goan Ethnography and Colonial Anthropology
Borrowed from Research, and I wish to thank D. Teotonio. Eric Pinto. --- On Sat, 7/18/09, Teotonio R. de Souza te Panjim, Herald, 18 July 2009 http://bit.ly/ k6Kcm Goan Ethnography and Colonial Anthropology by Teotonio R. de Souza Continuing his survey of Goan ethnography, TEOTONIO R DE SOUZA takes a look at the development of colonial anthropology The Introduction of the Ethnography of Goa,Daman and Diu refers to the earlier publication of J N da Fonseca's Historical and Archaeological Sketch of the City of Goa (1878) as part of the British Imperial Gazetteers. Curiously, there is no reference in Bragança Pereira's Etnografia to this classic work in the field. There is just one acknowledged reference in the text to a long quotation of description of wildlife hunting drawn from the excellent 2-volume ethnographic study of A Índia Portuguesa by A. Lopes Mendes (Lisboa, 1886), even though there is extensive borrowing of the illustrations without any credits to that author, who had drawn many of those sketches himself during his field trips as State agronomist in Portuguese India during 1862-1870. At least two such illustrations borrowed from Lopes Mendes appear in the end-papers of the English version. A comparative study of the two texts reveals textual borrowings: the parallel in the description of jackfruit on p 140 of Ethnography with that of p 141 of Volume II of Lopes Mendes is one such case. A critical edition could have pointed out to such unacknowledged borrowings. In the pre-internet times, cross-checking of plagiarism was not easy, except for specialists in the field. Very deafening is also the absence of any reference to his widely recognized colleagues and scholars Pandurang Pissurlencar and Germano da Silva Correia, both of whom produced scholarly research about the Maratha castes, including Chardós and Ranes in particular. We can now understand why Pandurang Pissurlencar may have been ignored. It is not very difficult also to guess the author's allergy to the militant of the racial purity of the descendentes, who for Bragança Pereira were just a random mixture of the ethnic Portuguese with the locals. That is at least what we read in the `Goa Portuguesa' cited below. We are told in the new Ethnography that no Portuguese scholar studied Goan society before Orlando Ribeiro and his team. If so, who was the Fonseca Cardoso, mentioned on p 56, confirming the Rajput origin of the Ranes by antropometric research? Armando da Fonseca Cardoso was a military man, who served in India and Angola, and died serving in Timor in 1912. A perusal of the recent research of Ricardo Roque, published as Antropologia e Império: Fonseca Cardoso e a expedição à Índia em 1895 (Lisboa, ICS, 2001) helps to appreciate the pioneering place of Fonseca Cardoso's O indígena de Satari in the evolution of Portuguese anthropology. One thing he learned from the experience: no one in Portugal was interested in his `native of Satari' or in orientalist research before he died! It was only after 1916 that he was resurrected by anthropologist Antonio Mendes Correia, founder-secretary and president of the Portuguese Society of Anthropology and Ethnology at Oporto. Mendes Correia occupied important offices during the Estado Novo under the Salazar regime and convinced the government about promoting research in overseas colonies, giving a place of honour to the so-called Colonial Anthropology. The Exposition of Oporto was part of the First National Congress of Colonial Anthropology. The `native of Satari' by Fonseca Cardoso figured prominently in the proceedings of this Congress and Fonseca Cardoso was named the pioneer of Portuguese colonial anthropology. Germano Correia also took active part in the national and international congresses of anthropology and sought to develop a theory of `selective anthropology' of colonial acclimatization. He believed in the need of guaranteeing the racial purity for the colonial future. He set up a laboratory for anthropometric studies in Luanda when Norton de Matos was there as Governor (he had been Forest Officer in Goa earlier). Later he set up similar laboratory at the Goa Medical College and developed it into a full-fledged and State-financed Gabinete de Antropologia do Estado da Índia after 1926. Bragança Pereira's first studies on ethnography need to be placed in this context and ideological trends. The valuable contribution of Constâncio Mascarenhas (1898-1978) to anthropological studies, in Goa and in Oporto, could also deserve some mention in the Introduction. A B de Bragança Pereira acted as President of the Permanent Commission of Archaeology during the two decades of 1931-1951. He gathered assiduously in the Epigraphic Museum of Old Goa many Hindu idols destroyed during the early Portuguese conversion drive and inscriptions on stones that lay uncared for all over Goa. He resumed the publication of the journal O
[Goanet] Cuncolim Civic and Consumer Forum meeting on Sunday.
Do Cuncolim Civic Consumer Forum (CCCF) a favour, circulate this email to your family members, relatives, neighbours and friends. Help consumers of CUNCOLIM to be better informed of their rights responsibilities. --- Cuncolim Civic and Consumer Forum meeting on Sunday --- The Cuncolim Civic and Consumer Forum (CCCF) will have its monthly general meeting of consumers on Sunday 19th July at 10.30am at the Our Lady of Health High School, Cuncolim. Among the issues to be discussed are Road Safety Traffic Management proposals for Cuncolim, campaign against non-ISI fake helmets, Implications of the Goa Health Services Development Act 2008, Observation of Breast Feeding Week, Consumer Awareness during Ganesh Chaturthi, service related problems of PWD water supply, Electricity, HP Gas LPG cylinder supply, Bus Transport, Post Office, BSNL Telephones and preparation of Identity cards for Senior Citizens. Consumers of Cuncolim are invited to attend the meeting and participate in the deliberations. - Cunolim ConsumerForum cuncolimcconsumerfo...@gmail.com -
Re: [Goanet] Difference: Gulf Non Resident Goans vs. Goa?s
ARWIN: Please see my replies below each Point Since this debate started elsewhere in cyberspace, I think dragging it mid-way onto Goanet is unfair to those who have not been following the other side of the debate. Whatever we may say, it is ironic that those who migrate the most from Goa (UAE, US, Bahamas, wherever) also tend to be the most critical migrants into Goa. Arwin: We are all civilized to understand that migration happens but should it be rapid uncontrolled migration beyond tolerable levels One justification is that Goans are a small population, and don't swamp other, but get swamped themselves. It all depends on how we frame the issue. I guess if you ask the natives of Byculla or Dhobi Talao what *they* think of Goan migration, the answer would be different. * * *ARWIN: Firstly I think we should understand that Goa is a state and Byculla/Dobi Talao is not. In a bigger scope Mumbai might have majority Migrants but Maharashtra does not; bottom line there is no threat today to the overall Maharashtrian Identity as there is to Goan Identity today* To my mind, the 'we are being swamped' issue is a big red herring used to mask a number of other contradictions within Goan society, and problems we face today. Fact is, one Goan won't trust another -- based on caste, religion or whatever. So why scapegoat the migrant, more so when so many migrants from Goa have landed all over the globe? *ARWIN: Migrants from Goa have landed all over the globe subject to controlled immigration policies and not free for all migration into Goa as happening today; beyond tolerable levels in short time frame!!* The emotionalism injected into the debate, by the use of words like anti-Goan critics is self-evident. Someone doesn't become anti Goan just because he has a differing perspective from yours. * * *ARWIN:Well if individuals support harmful mega-projects, uncontrolled migrant influx into Goa affecting the standard of living, mining destroying etc which all is affecting Goa then may be we should call them pro-Goan* Gulf migrants might not have voting rights, but many Goan expats in many other parts of the globe do. They buy land there too. If the Goan migrants left due to lack of sufficient opportunities, so did those migrating from other regions into Goa; they don't come here for a picnic (except tourists!) *ARWIN: We are civilized to understand migration for economic purposed but as other places in the Globe have norms for Goans; so should we for migrants coming into Goa.* Would you support a fair and just migrant control policy for Karnataka, Maharashtra, Delhi and the many other places that Goans migrant to, both within and out of India? If so, what happens to the idea of a federal nation, one which so many Goans have gained so much from? *Arwin: Surely yes if their Identity is threatened but as you will appreciate it is not because of the larger size and population. Also for certain states as their identity is is not threatened will not prefer special states; because thier economic requirements are different. As we should appreciate what works in one place will not work in another. Why do certain other states in India have special status; we want to talk about federal?* Are mega-projects and politicians with vote-banks unique to Goa? When a Rajan Parrikar supports an Obama in a US election, does he become a vote bank too? *Arwin: Surely we can count and will understand that Rajan Parrikar kind don’t influence election in the USA; as migrants do in Goa. Also Rajan (pls excuse for using your example) will have to go thru the same fair (may be even longer procedure to get voting rights) Is it the case with migrants today who easily get Ration Cards/Voting rights; even more easily that Goans can get them!!* Anyone whose heart bleeds for Goa could do more than give sermons via cyberspace. Give up your fancy lifestyles, and high salaries, come here and work for change. I'm sure you would be as welcome as the in-migrants you so stridently deride! *Arwin: Maybe the fault is that those NRG’s whose hearts bleeds for Goa are not marketing their efforts or blowing their trumpets; if they did show their efforts on the ground during their leave supposedly to be holidays would this view change? One Example (Like him or Hate him), Rajan Parrikar has done more for Panjim/Goa than many Goans but small minded Goans in Goa Abroad who have not raised a finger to do anything; will do nothing but criticize.* And btw, a friend (Goan) told of a DNA test he had done, which showed his ancestors migrated out of Africa, via Anatolia in Turkey, and thence into North India, to settle in Aldona! Another friend said his (Goan) brother's DNA tests showed his links with, hold your breath, Uzbekistan and South India! *Arwin: We know this but this mass migration to this extend has happened over time and not in just a so little time; as currently happening in Goa.
[Goanet] Migrant issue: from a bhailo in Bangalore
I am a bhailo in Bangalore. I dont know Kannada except for a few words such as kannada gottila (which means I dont know Kannada). But trust me, I have got so much love and affection in Bangalore --- no one ever called me a bhailo, that I feel I am a Bangalorean now. I dont deny my Goan-ness. I have faced all kinds of situations in Bangalore. Joblessness and having a job; love and breaking of the heart, death of close friends --- things I didnt face in Goa. After all, I left Goa when I was hardly 16. Any place is your experiences after all. Even for Goans in the Gulf and elsewhere, it is the experiences that they had in Goa in their childhood which is Goa for them. I have had similar childhood and adolescent experiences in Goa and surely that is what Goa is for me. But I cant deny that Bangalore is also for me the experiences that I have had in Bangalore. So, sort of I am a part Goan and a part Bangalorean. If any Gulfie Goan looks deep into his/her heart, I am sure he will realize he is part Goan and part Gulfie. And similarly for Canadian Goans, or American Goans. 1) Why deny the Gulfie, American part? 2) Why deny to those who are migrants to Goa their Goan experiences? Mog Asundi! regards, Samir
[Goanet] Some Pics: Floods in the Capital City
Some Pics: Floods in the Capital City Road leading to Azad maidan from National Theatre http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoaukdirtypanjim2/3731958991/sizes/l/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoaukdirtypanjim2/3732756832/sizes/l/ There are many flooded roads in the city ..and our CCP feeding our money to the Ghosts (employees) Kya baat hai ! Jai ho CCP copy to all 30 corporators Parrikar CCP commissioner GT H joego...@yahoo.co.uk for Goa NRI related info... http://in.groups.yahoo.com/group/GOAN-NRI/ For Goan Video Clips http://youtube.com/joeukgoa In Goa, Dial 1 0 8 For Hospital, Police, Fire etc
[Goanet] Daily Grook #470
DAILY GROOK #470 ___ MORE FLOOR ___ by Francis Rodrigues the lowest flats do miss water so, to enjoy the best get the top flow! _ puns word-play of all kinds, hey...read between the lines! _ http://www.KonkaniSongBook.com _ More storage. Better anti-spam and antivirus protection. Hotmail makes it simple. http://go.microsoft.com/?linkid=9671357
Re: [Goanet] Goa - Inquisition
I understand that people left the City of Goa during this and other periods because of cholera and other kinds of tropical epidemics, which disproportionately affected the Europeans. I believe during this time, in particular, a severe epidemic of influenza was ravaging the world. What is the purpose of comparing deaths due to natural diseases with the man-made atrocities of the inquisition? Why this confusion? Cheers, Santosh --- On Sat, 7/18/09, Gilbert Lawrence gilbert2...@yahoo.com wrote: The above raises the QUESTIONS: Was the 'Inquisition-suspended period' that much of a relief to the local population as claimed? Would the threat from the Inquisition on the rulers, saved the local population from the severe measures imposed on them by the colonial government during this period? Is not the sample of statistics of the victims who died in the four months above, appear to be close to or exceed the total number of fatal victims of the entire Goa-inquisition? Is the forced-labor in the 'Inquisition-suspended period' (1774-1779) what Alfredo De Mello refers; when he MISTAKENLY compares the Goa-inquisition to Stalin's regime? Regards, GL
[Goanet] Please identify this (leafless?) plant or tree
Please identify this (leafless?) plant or tree http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk20/3718412304/sizes/l/ another http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk20/3717599153/sizes/l/ clue: When we were kids, we were told it is ‘Undram Vokod’ (Rat’s medicine). Little branches we kept by the storage jars (Rice, cereal, grains etc) in our ‘Kud’ store room but it never scared or killed the mice/rats. I already got one answer for this saying it is a ‘Pencil Cactus’. And I thought all types of cactus/es have thorns joego...@yahoo.co.uk for Goa NRI related info... http://in.groups.yahoo.com/group/GOAN-NRI/ For Goan Video Clips http://youtube.com/joeukgoa In Goa, Dial 1 0 8 For Hospital, Police, Fire etc
[Goanet] Goa's Secret Police Harass Rama Velip
Some thoughts. If it possible to get an OP, Order of Protection against the police. I mean has it ever been done. Besides emotional torture, what do midnight calls amount to? An ample opportunity for possible liquidation?! It also reminded me that almost no analysis has been done of anything related to mining and its various caveats, as sporadic missives from the fields appear on Goanet--by Goanetters. I could be wrong, but even if I could be, it still implies that unlike other issues this one needs a lot of processing before cogent or however incoherent thoughts make it into cyberspace. Also have not seen much by way of writers or essayists, however well meaning their toughts on matters and ills relating to society; aside from mining, with its pros and cons as it plays out in Goa. I am not talking here of journalists, or correspondents in the journalistic sense, nor of activists, or bloggers (who are not exactly slacking). I am talking of corespondence from writers, artists, poets, doctors, professionals, home-makers, and other as correspondents. Remember the word correspondent as it was used in the past. ++ The dessais--Phaldessais--sounds more like fruit parasites, who took a shine to ore. ++ venantius Date: Sat, 18 Jul 2009 17:03:18 +0530 From: sebastian Rodrigues sebydesio...@hotmail.com Subject: [Goanet] Goa's Secret Police Harass Rama Velip Over the past two weeks Rama Velip of Colamb village in Sanguem Taluka is being harassed by Goa's Secret Police - CID (Criminal Intelligence Department). Secret police has been visiting the house of Rama Velip and seeks to know about future plans of anti-mining movement. There are phone calls made at Rama Velip's residence at very odd hours in the night and ask him to report to Quepem Police Station. Rama Velip is heading Gawda, Kunbi, Velip and Dhangar Fedearation (GAKUVED) unit under the jurisdiction of Rivona Panchayat and in the middle of resistance movement against mining in Sanguem and Quepem Talukas of South Goa. CID officer who is involved in harassing Rama Velip is one Premanand Phaldessai attached to Quepem Police Station. He hails from Sanvordem and according to the sources his family members are involved in business of transportation of Iron Ore through ownership of trucks. _ Stay updated! Add Facebook, LinkedIn, MySpace Hi5 friends to your Windows Live network instantly. Add Now! http://profile.live.com/webactivities/?mkt=en-in --
Re: [Goanet] British citizens buying property in Goa
Eddie, sorry for my late response. I agree with you that IF a legal transaction occurred and the Goa or India govt. is trying to reverse it, I would be outraged. But I question HOW MANY of these real estate transactions by British nationals in Goa were legal. Given the illegal cesspool of Goan real estate development, where illegal permits are obtained, land usurped, illegal hill-cutting, illegal constructions, bribes paid at various levels, property intentionally not sold to local Goans but only to foreigners and non-Goans, it is difficult for me to believe than more than a handful (and I am being generous here) of these British national transactions were legal. Also difficult for me to believe the British nationals were innocent parties to these transactions and were unaware of the illegalities listed in the paragraph above - they are not THAT naive. Just call up some of the builders/sellers/agents in the UK of these Goan properties and they will immediately inform you how to circumvent the law. I do not need to inform you that Goa has quite a few unscrupulous real-estate lawyers and real-estate agents in cahoots with and under the patronage of Goan politicians. How many of these builders/sellers/agents who advertise on Goan websites and who come to London at the Tourism mart, comply with the law? Regards, George
[Goanet] G’bye Goa - Goan Emigration: HERALD (Goa), July 19, 2009
G’BYE GOA: GOAN EMIGRATION By Valmiki Faleiro Goan paradoxes will never cease to fascinate. If she got populated through a series of waves of in-migrations at different points of time in her history, beginning from about 4,000-3,000 BC, Goa also got depopulated through an almost equal and reverse process of out-migrations. The idea that emigration was largely forced and occurred only during the Portuguese era is, as I wrote last Sunday, entirely erroneous. Goan émigrés are almost as old as Goa herself. Panna, a Goan Saraswat from Ambaulim-Quepem, migrated to Sopara, traded in things like sandalwood and areca, with as distant places as Mudguiri and Tibet, then turned into a disciple of Buddha, returned to Goa to spread the faith, and died at age 80 – all in the pre-Christian (forget Portuguese!) era. Panna is the first famous Goan expatriate. There could have been others before. Down history, Goans – Saraswats and Vanis in particular – moved outside Goa for better economic opportunity. Save during the Kadamba and Portuguese epochs, Goa witnessed political vicissitudes. New rulers or kingdoms generally brought with them new economic opportunity. And fresh waves of out-migration. The Shenvis of Cortalim, rated intellectually the most ‘superior’ of Salcete Saraswats, were known across ages to have migrated to neighbouring kingdoms. They worked as teachers and accountants, may have depleted treasuries at their workplace, but dutifully returned to hearth-‘n’-home, built new temples or added to existing ones, or bought properties and bequeathed them to temples, to perpetuate their memory! All these, remember, were voluntary – not forced – emigrations. Down the wavers of history, finally arrived the Muslims. Many Goans fled during the invasions of Mallik Kafur and Ghazni Mohammed. Then came the Portuguese. And, soon, a mass Goan exodus. One arose from socio-religious bigotry. The other, from fresh economic opportunity outside Goa (and later, the lack of any within Goa.) The former was not restricted to Hindus alone, as wrongly believed, but covered Catholics as well – who, running the risk of being reported to the ‘Holy Office’ of the Inquisition, fled to coastal Karnataka and elsewhere. New economic opportunities took Goans to places as afar as Cochin, San Thome (Chennai), Bassein (Vasai), Gujarat, and Chittagong/Ungolim (Hoogly) in Bengal. Many prospered – as did Sir Roger Faria, from Panjim, who dumped opium on China by the shipload, from his bases in Calcutta, Bombay and Macau, but in latter times. Colonialism was a drain on the Goan economy. Locals were taxed to fund colonial wars with neighbouring kingdoms and missionary activities in India. Bulk of Goa’s land was owned by a few ‘ganvkars.’ For the common Goan, subsistence farming was the only way to keep body and soul together. In this grim scenario came the decline of the Portuguese in the East. Goa, by the last quarter of the 16th century, was engulfed in all round Portuguese profligacy, venality and corruption. Lassitude reigned supreme, and the Dutch struck. With their frequent naval blockades from 1603 to 1644, the Dutch starved an already languishing Goa. Economic decline led to the per force emigration. This time largely of Goan Catholics, by now the vast majority of Goa’s populace (then comprising of only the three Old Conquest talukas of Bardez, Tiswadi and Salcete.) This wave of ‘per force’ migration gradually began from the 17th century. It arose purely from economic realities, and survives to this day, encompassing the wider boundaries of modern Goa – despite the fact that we have held our destiny in our hands now close to fifty years. By the early 1700s, Portuguese historian Vitorino Magalhaes Godinho estimated that Bengal alone had between 20,000 to 34,000 Goan emigrants. Things got worse locally with Portugal’s newfound interest in sugarcane-rich Brazil. Vitorino summed it succinctly: the Luso Empire thrived on West African gold in the 15th century, on Oriental pepper in the 16th and on Brazilian sugar in the 17th century. By the 18th century, helpless Goans had to fend for themselves – beyond Goa. PS: Internet trivia: the total solar eclipse July 22, at 6.26-6.30am, will be the last in our lifetime. It’ll next occur over India on June 3, 2114! (ENDS.) The Valmiki Faleiro weekly column at: http://www.goanet.org/index.php?name=Newsfile=articlesid=330 == The above article appeared in the July 19, 2009 edition of the Herald, Goa
Re: [Goanet] 10000 songs from 1904
2009/7/18 Tony de Sa tonyde...@gmail.com Hi Eric, The link needs a slight edit. It should read http://www.planetarei.com.br/100anos/index.htm Happy and enjoyable listening to all -- Tony Tony de Sa Ph: +91 832 2470 148 M: +91 9975162897 E: tonyd...@gmail.com The future will be better tomorrow. - Dan Quayle RESPONSE: Got it right this end no sweat; went back in time and it appears I remember songs when I was three years old! That aside here is one from the Ames brothers 1950:- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UmykQjziXos Very nice indeed but canna touch the great Elvis's version:- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MX6Ibo9AkAk I think I have put this one on Goanet before; what's the verdict out there? Us that were teenagers in Nbi know better - Elvis was part of our growing up! -- DEV BOREM KORUM. Gabe Menezes. London.
[Goanet] Goa news for July 19, 2009
Goa News from Google News and Goanet.org Visit http://www.goanet.org/newslinks.php for the full stories. *** Goa law commission suggests amendments in tenants act - Press Trust of India ecade-old acts to give rights of property to the tenants in the state. ... http://news.google.com/news/url?fd=Rsa=Turl=http://ptinews.com/news/178187_Goa-law-commission-suggests-amendments-in-tenants-actusg=AFQjCNFPH0Gzz5Uu2dF3MqR8fsU5B2FQHA *** Serial killer charge-sheeted by Goa police - Press Trust of India heeted by Goa police http://news.google.com/news/url?fd=Rsa=Turl=http://ptinews.com/news/181196_Serial-killer-charge-sheeted-by-Goa-policeusg=AFQjCNFwvsjV6F8pnGxOMGrGAG1gddeNJw *** Goa police refuses to hand over bodies of Russians - Press Trust of India KU6HIlT0AwQCops refuse to hand over bodies of Russian duo http://news.google.com/news/url?fd=Rsa=Turl=http://www.ptinews.com/news/179012_Goa-police-refuses-to-hand-over-bodies-of-Russiansusg=AFQjCNHNO6EYcOxzcDP1fMxTjqOcx5JwbQ *** 20-year-old boy tests positive for swine flu in Goa - Times of India ear-old-man-tests-positive-for-swine-fluusg=AFQjCNEvrON8pk3YF3Uv_H--YjqpCFXLBw20-year-old man tests positive for swine flu http://news.google.com/news/url?fd=Rsa=Turl=http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/NEWS-City-Goa-20-year-old-boy-tests-positive-for-swine-flu-in-Goa/articleshow/4792898.cmsusg=AFQjCNGWEHsZ0-hi6xXsY9LDP82DM-mezA *** Goa criticised for pushing SEZs in guise of \'health estates\' - SINDH TODAY yHPTR5Q6g6_VxOIATrouble brewing for health estates http://news.google.com/news/url?fd=Rsa=Turl=http://www.sindhtoday.net/news/1/31840.htmusg=AFQjCNGQ535-TJWuHkm0mb9V1u5tqZdUew *** Grants.gov has Serious Weaknesses, Says GOA - IT Business Edge _GUf68HjWS_aEfxDXwGAO: Federal Grants Web Site Shows 'Weaknesses' http://news.google.com/news/url?fd=Rsa=Turl=http://www.itbusinessedge.com/cm/community/news/gt/blog/grantsgov-has-serious-weaknesses-says-goa/?cs=34219usg=AFQjCNGzF2_jiCISAavqA4vNSxKgWSewDw *** Eze Must Be Punished For Cheating - Sporting Clube De Goa - Goal.com 7-07-2009-003.htmusg=AFQjCNETRIarXBCt3z9EUZic8BSgi2fvEAFIFA fine Indian club over Nigerian star http://news.google.com/news/url?fd=Rsa=Turl=http://www.goal.com/en-india/news/136/india/2009/07/17/1387816/eze-must-be-punished-for-cheating-sporting-clube-de-goausg=AFQjCNH5AnuM9mCU-TJUAwSaFYX9odBlnA *** \'Goa\' gang mobbed in Malaysia - IndiaGlitz diaGlitzWith almost half the film's shoot being completed, the crew of director Venkat Prabhu's 'Goa' has proceeded to shoot in Malaysia. The film has Jai, ...a class= http://news.google.com/news/url?fd=Rsa=Turl=http://www.indiaglitz.com/channels/tamil/article/48396.htmlusg=AFQjCNFedzphwB4cY86wln8ih5F5wZS_Zw *** Goa Chief Secretary favours speedy disposal of files - Hindu rdinates not to keep government files pending for more than seven days. ...a class= http://news.google.com/news/url?fd=Rsa=Turl=http://www.hindu.com/thehindu/holnus/004200907181331.htmusg=AFQjCNG5jNHJxjSBd21HX8toGUOLhPPKlA *** Animal lovers keen to guard Goa\'s forests - Times of India mes of IndiaPANAJI: The killing of a cow by a tiger reported recently in a forest area near Amboli, barely 35 km from Goa's border at Dodamarg, has stirred the ...a class= http://news.google.com/news/url?fd=Rsa=Turl=http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/articleshow/4791112.cmsusg=AFQjCNG5Cwbs0OYREPUfovnxd89eSN1opg Compiled by Goanet News Service http://www.goanet.org/newslinks.php
Re: [Goanet] Difference: Gulf Non Resident Goans vs. Goa’s Migrants
My responses below. --- On Sat, 7/18/09, Frederick [FN] Noronha * फ्रेडरिक न fredericknoro...@gmail.com wrote: Whatever we may say, it is ironic that those who migrate the most from Goa (UAE, US, Bahamas, wherever) also tend to be the most critical migrants into Goa. No mainstream person is arguing for a zero migrant policy. The issue is should rich and poor migrants come to Goa primarily to support illegal mining and illegal mega-projects. Although the Goan political system facilitates these illegal activities, does not excuse migrant (rich and poor) coming to Goa to foster illegal activity. One justification is that Goans are a small population, and don't swamp other, but get swamped themselves. It all depends on how we frame the issue. I guess if you ask the natives of Byculla or Dhobi Talao what *they* think of Goan migration, the answer would be different. Goans who went to Byculla and Dhobi Talao did not engage in illegal activities. To my mind, the 'we are being swamped' issue is a big red herring used to mask a number of other contradictions within Goan society, and problems we face today. No, it is not a red herring. It is a fact, as a percentage of the population, Goa is absorbing the highest migrant population in India. Fact is, one Goan won't trust another -- based on caste, religion or whatever. So why scapegoat the migrant, more so when so many migrants from Goa have landed all over the globe? The above is a red herring meant to blur the migrant issue. The emotionalism injected into the debate, by the use of words like anti-Goan critics is self-evident. Someone doesn't become anti Goan just because he has a differing perspective from yours. There are people (some Goan) who do not give a damn about Goa, including encouraging anarchy. If anti-Goan is not the correct name, then call them some other name which fits. Would you support a fair and just migrant control policy for Karnataka, Maharashtra, Delhi and the many other places that Goans migrant to, both within and out of India? If so, what happens to the idea of a federal nation, one which so many Goans have gained so much from? I believe in state rights, otherwise why have states? I support a fair and just migrant policy for each state. Anyone whose heart bleeds for Goa could do more than give sermons via cyberspace. Give up your fancy lifestyles, and high salaries, come here and work for change. I'm sure you would be as welcome as the in-migrants you so stridently deride! This is the biggest red herring of all and comes up often enough. Writing for myself, I support a number of causes in various places around the world without actually living there. On the flip side, I am sure Goans in Goa support causes outside Goa and no one asks them to leave Goa and live where their causes are at. Additionally, I have investments in various places and it is not physically possible to be in more than one place at one time. So asking a Goan to come down to Goa is the classic red herring. Goans around the world have an emotional investment, sometimes property investment in Goa. I expect they will protect those investments regardless of where they are currently domiciled, especially since the Goan political system and some sections of the media have failed and put their investments at risk. Regards, George
