date:20091030

Goa information commission has found another interesting reason for
rejecting appeals and complaints. If first appellate authority (FAA)
passes an order in favour of disclosure but the orders are not obeyed,
the case is rejected by the information commission on the ground that
an appeal could be filed only if one were dissatisfied with the order
of first appellate authority. One cannot request the information
commission to ensure compliance of first appeal orders. So, where
should an appellant go? Goa Information Commission has turned away
several people on this ground.

http://www.rtiawards.org/news/2009/10/29/what-information-can-be-asked-under-rti/
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[Goanet] VOA News - 'Amelia' Tells Story of Life, Tragic Disappearance of American Pioneer Aviator

2009-10-30 Thread Ruby Goes

http://www.voanews.com/english/2009-10-29-voa7.cfm

Good Morning Goanet.
Here's what Ms Nair's been up to lately.
Gosh, us Down Under film buffs love her stuff!
Come back Mira. Come soon.
rubygoes

[Goanet] Daily Grook #554

2009-10-30 Thread Francis Rodrigues


DAILY GROOK #554
==
WHEELER DEALER
==
by Francis Rodrigues



stone-age man
so blank until,
the invention
...of the will!


http://www.KonkaniSongBook.com
===
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GOA: PEDRO FERNANDES: Tel.2226642 FURTADOS: Tel.2223278
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[Goanet] What is a khandi

2009-10-30 Thread Albert Desouza


Albert replies:- A khandi is equal to 20 kuddos. One kuddo is two pailis and 
one paili is equal to four poddis. We had a measure called podd. One kilo is 
equal to one and quarter podd. 

  
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Re: [Goanet] Reign of Fanatics

Hello Joel,

The Golden Goose that lays the golden egg will soon disappear - Joel. Just 
returned from Kerela - a much better place for tourist and they care a lot for 
their environment. May be because they have a lot of communists. 
Regards
Ashley

Re: [Goanet] Expats set up shop here to beat the blues at home

Hello Armstrong Agusto,
It shows that you have think out of the box. Read the story how watermelons 
were grown to be square in shape to reduce volume in a container - in Japan.
Regards 
Ashley

[Goanet] 'Makod'

2009-10-30 Thread Fausto Da Costa

You are right Domnic we should write as accurately as possible, and the 
words should be written as 'makodd' and 'Khetem'.

Fausto

Domnic wrote:
As far as I know, the Goan Konkani word for monkey is makod. However, in 
Karnataka they call it mankod. Hence, I wrote . we in Goa write

it as makod. The female monkey is known as keldem.

Whenever we write Konkani on a public forum, let us keep in mind that
there are scores of people, including Goans in foreign countries, who
pick up what we write and learn from us. Therefore, we should write as
accurately as possible rather than confuse and misguide them.

[Goanet] Coconut-craft from Goa....

Vijaydatta Lotlikar is a master craftsman who specialises in coconut
craft. He has done some innovative work related to this much-neglected
product in Goa, and you can see some of my art here:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/fn-goa/sets/72157622150617124/

You can also find Lotlikar talking about his art here:
http://tiny.cc/coconutcraft
http://tiny.cc/lotlikar

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[Goanet] Request for words for monkey in Konknni

2009-10-30 Thread Venantius J Pinto

Hi all,
I have been off the net for a while, and upon reading a few of your
comments was pleasantly surprised that this request seems to have
taken off. Mr. Tavares (not Alfred) pointed out vandor, which I now
remember my Dad (both he and Grandpa were born in Mumbai). My mother
used makodd. I believe the correct spelling is makodd/mankodd. Thanks
Dominic, Blasio, JoeGoaUK, and anyone who may have responded,
considering that I have not read all Goanet.

This query originated when a friends young daughter who knows a
smattering of words in many languages said she knew the word for
monkey in Konknni -- dudhu/duddhu/dudu. Now we know the words for
money (incl. poixea) in Konknni, as well as for milk. I pointed her
towards makodd, but she insisted that dudu had to be one; at which
point I send out that email from her fathers office, with her looking
over my shoulder. Perhaps there is a word, and I wanted to give her
that benefit, with the collective force of Goanet behind it.

Further to the above: The interest in dissecting Konknni words may be
helpful if we are inclined in looking at say some of the collective
Konknni words, for example, measuring vessels -- gunnati,
arnatti/annatti, natti, and so forth. Let me get back and I will post.
Heads up to anyone who wishes to start a post on the same -- ordho
pod, pod, kudov, handi, etc., and as they deviate into other uniquely
singular meaures. Feel free t o correct if in error.

venantius j pinto

[Goanet] CCP to restor Pangim garden.

2009-10-30 Thread Bernado Colaco

 Arre Parekhbhai kemcho sarucho, is it not your duty to preserve the garden 
everyday? Even the gujus are getting foolish? 
 
BC
 

CCP to restore Panaji garden
PANAJI: The Corporation of the City of Panaji (CCP) plans to gift the
city a restored garden by December 8, to coincide with the feast of the
church  
and is taking the help of the Goa Forest Development Corporation (GFDC)
to achieve this.

[Goanet] What will the future be? - GOA (LETTER AS PUBLISHED IN LOCAL DAILY -OHERALDO)

2009-10-30 Thread Arwin Mesquita

**
*http://www.oheraldo.in/pagedetails.asp?nid=29225cid=13*

*What will the future be?
Reuben S, Chicalim*
The justification for immigration, that India is a free country allowing its
citizens to migrate and settle anywhere, should not be extended to Goa. In
1961, the state of Goa was ‘conquered’ by India and thus had no say in
protecting its unique identity and culture through the Constitution.
Which other state in India has over 40 per cent of its population consisting
of outsiders? Which other state has so many bureaucrats from other regions
enjoying a holiday posting with little work and big returns (bribes)? Which
other state is the laughing stock of the nation because of the theatrical
behaviour of its politicians? In which other state is preferential treatment
given to migrants with regards to obtaining important documents, housing,
civic amenities and jobs?
Immigration always leads to common conflicts between the local population
and the migrants. These are often the result of simmering tensions between
communities, often caused by sudden change in the demographic and religious
composition of the population.
The recent acts of brazen crime have created a fear psychosis in the minds
of Goenkars. If these are the times we live through, what is the future of
our children going to be? Will they get a chance to see and understand the
Goan beauty and culture we were born and brought up with?




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[Goanet] More on Khandis...

Very useful information from Sebastian... could anyone offer metric
equivalents? FN

-- Forwarded message --
From: sebastian mascarenhas mask...@rediffmail.com
To: f...@goa-india.org

Dear Fredrick,

Khandi was the measure used for paddy, as I remeber 4 ozim ( Baskets)
was equal to one khandi. 1 ozem was 4 panti, then there was 1 kudov
which was 2 pailis, one paili was 4 poddi, one poddi was 16
anatim.(all salcete Cinchinim, Sarzora lingo)

The fields were measured as LANCE , then there was 1/2 lance . 1/4
lance 1/8 lance etc, I think our form 1  14 shows the area of a lance
in square meters.

Regards,

Sebastian Mascarenhas.

Saudi Arabia

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Re: [Goanet] For Rs. 50,000/-, they killed 4 people

Wikipedia does:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overcharge

And so does ehow (relevant to contractors):
http://www.ehow.com/how_4430398_tell-contractor-overcharging-materials.html

But, we're going way off-topic. I think your point is made, Sam. FN

2009/10/29 Samir Kelekar samir_kele...@yahoo.com:

 Do you have a definition for over-charging?
 What if the customer thinks it is worth the price,
 do you still think it is over charging?
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[Goanet] Sale of Jobs

2009-10-30 Thread Joel Moraes





Sale of Jobs?
 
If the Candidates for the post of Grade 1 teachers,presently on hunger strike 
are selected by the GPSC based on government orders, what is the problem from 
the government side to issue them appointment letters is a quite simple 
question.Although it's not legal but all of us are aware that most of the 
government jobs are always at Sale.The price varies from post to post.Just 
throwing away the jobs to the GPSC candidates will cause a severe to the 
concerned politicians.Am I right?Please don't charge me if I m wrong because 
such acts by the concerned politicians are facts though very difficult to prove.
 
Joel Morais
P.O.Cuncolim,
Bencleamvaddo,
Salcette,Goa.
mob-9970561727

Re: [Goanet] Talking photos: More Panjim/Miramar pics

Don't you worry, dear Joeboy...

Now that you have advertised its untenancy, it will soon
be lived-in, not by graveyard worms...either...
Chacha...

Date: Wed, 28 Oct 2009 21:52:09 +
From: joego...@yahoo.co.uk
To: goa...@goanet.org
CC: goan-...@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Goanet] Talking photos: More Panjim/Miramar pics

Talking photos: More Panjim/Miramar pics

This open grave lying here for more than a week now
Night
http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoaukdirtypanjim3/4040375008/
day
http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoaukdirtypanjim3/4050776987/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoaukdirtypanjim3/4050775589/
Near Campal grounds, DB Road

Miramar highmast lamps
Only 2 out of 8 are working
http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoaukdirtypanjim3/404813/

Parking zone on pavements?
It's a regular thing now.
Campal grounds –DB Road
http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoaukdirtypanjim3/4043773797/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoaukdirtypanjim3/4043771375/
Near children park
http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoaukdirtypanjim3/4050778553/
Cutomers bikes of dy. Mayor’s restaurants also seen parked on the pavements.
At the entrance.

Pissing zone – with casino in the background
http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoaukdirtypanjim3/4048132713/

Dumping zone at Azad Maidan?
http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoaukdirtypanjim3/4048876646/

Sleep/rest with style
http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoaukdirtypanjim3/4048878290/sizes/l/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoaukdirtypanjim3/4048134929/sizes/l/

beach sand narrowing the parking area at Miramar circle
http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoaukdirtypanjim3/4048135265/sizes/l/

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[Goanet] Musical evening at Pilar

2009-10-30 Thread aurelio viegas


MARY THE CHOSEN ONE, a musical evening on Saturday , October 31, at 6 to 9 pm. 
at Fr Agnel School Grounds Pilar. ALL ARE CORDIALLY INVITED.(Information by Fr. 
Feroz Fernandes, Editor of V. IXTT) 

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Re: [Goanet] Goa news for October 30, 2009

Dear Administrator, 
This is  a much better way of providing us the links.
Thanks keep up the excellent work.
Regards to the whole team and God bless your day.

Ashley D'Silva
Secretary
Mumbai Goan Association.

[Goanet] What is a khandi?

2009-10-30 Thread Tony Correia

A khandi is a twig as opposed to a khando which means branch.

The correct spelling of the word for the measure referred to by FN is khanddi 
and it is one of the measures that ascend as follows:

gin'nati (the smallest measure)
on'nati (which, if my memory serves me right, is 2 gin'natis)
solgem (which is made up of 4 on'natis)
podd (which, I think, is made up of 2 solgems)
paili (which is equal to 4 podds ?)
kuddov, (sorry, I don't remember how many pailis make a kddov) and, finally, 10 
kuddovs make a
khanddi

I stand, and would be glad, to be corrected

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Re: [Goanet] More on Khandis...

Good info for our posterity, Bostaum-bab...

You forgot the 'mhon' = 'odez (2 1/2) 'kudov' or 'panch (5)
paileo/pailis'.

Chacha... 

 Date: Fri, 30 Oct 2009 14:31:14 +0530
 From: f...@goa-india.org
 To: goanet@lists.goanet.org
 Subject: [Goanet] More on Khandis...

 Very useful information from Sebastian... could anyone offer metric
 equivalents? FN

 -- Forwarded message --
 From: sebastian mascarenhas mask...@rediffmail.com
 To: f...@goa-india.org

 Dear Fredrick,

 Khandi was the measure used for paddy, as I remeber 4 ozim ( Baskets)
 was equal to one khandi. 1 ozem was 4 panti, then there was 1 kudov
 which was 2 pailis, one paili was 4 poddi, one poddi was 16
 anatim.(all salcete Cinchinim, Sarzora lingo)

 The fields were measured as LANCE , then there was 1/2 lance . 1/4
 lance 1/8 lance etc, I think our form 1  14 shows the area of a lance
 in square meters.

 Regards,

 Sebastian Mascarenhas.

 Saudi Arabia

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[Goanet] Migration cannot end by beating up peop le’

2009-10-30 Thread armstrong augusto vaz

‘Migration cannot end by beating up people’October 30th, 2009 - 4:28 pm ICT
by IANS [image: Tell a
Friend]http://www.freetellafriend.com/tell/?option=manualu=4395-

Panaji, Oct 30 (IANS) Migration is a global reality which needs to be
handled with maturity and not by beating up migrants, state commissioner for
Non-Resident Indian (NRI) Affairs Eduardo Faleiro said.
Pressing for an academic approach to the issue of migration within the
country and abroad, Faleiro also took a dig at Raj Thackeray’s Maharashra
Navanirman Sena (MNS) for its migrant-oriented partisan politics.

“The migrant issue is a problem in Mumbai. But the best way out of it is not
to beat up people. No one has the right to beat migrants, because they also
benefit the host city,” Faleiro told reporters Friday.

Faleiro was pushing for a centre of diaspora studies in Goa, a state which
has seen out-migration to Britain, Africa and especially to the Gulf
countries.

“Goa was the second state in the country after Kerala to carry out a
scientific study on migration. But it has to be a continuous process,”
Faleiro said.

The former union minister of state for external affairs said he had
discussed the issue of setting up a centre of diaspora studies in Goa, with
the union Minister for Human Resource Development Kapil Sibal.

“The Indian diaspora has significant communities worldwide, but none of our
universities have facilities for focused research or teaching in this area,”
Faleiro said.

“Goa is an ideal location since over centuries a major chunk of our
population migrated to other parts of India and abroad, also there
in-migration into our state from other parts of the country,” he said.

To back up his argument, Faleiro said the United Nations Development
Programme (UNDP) in its 2009 human development report has identified
migration as a prominent feature of domestic and international debate.

“This year’s UNDP report, called Overcoming barriers: Human mobility and
development, deals exclusively with migration,” Faleiro said.

The veteran Congressman also called for a head count of the Goan and Indian
diaspora abroad, stating that without a system in place, it was virtually
impossible to figure out how many Indians had migrated abroad for sake of
employment

Read more:
http://www.thaindian.com/newsportal/uncategorized/migration-cannot-end-by-beating-up-people_100267729.html#ixzz0VQiE1AL0

[Goanet] World Goa Day theme song video launched in Dubai

2009-10-30 Thread rene barreto






Goemkars  ! 

Radio Goa-Konkani Online Radio - 
http://www.radiogoa.net/






 World Goa Day theme 
song VIDEO  launched in Dubai.



Dubai:A video of the theme song of world Goa day was launched in Dubai on 28th 
Oct.The music arranged ,recorded and sung by the multi talented Sanio who is 
popular here for his Konkani renditions.The video is shot at the famous 
Flamingo resort in Umm Al Quain and features Sanio in the lead.This video also 
features the dance troupe Impresions headed by Tony.The other cast includes 
Rafael on the bongos,Francis 
on the Drums and Tony Benson on Bass.Camera and editing by Abdul Mutalib.


This video will be premiered on youtube and the audio track on Radiogoa  
http://www.radiogoa.net/ from Sunday 1st Nov. 

  I am delighted that radiogoa.net is now broadcasting.  It gives people 
across the world the opportunity to listen to Konkani music 
and keep up to date with ...http://www.radiogoa.net/


Picnic in the Park  - UAE 
http://www.radiogoa.net/comments.shtml?id=525





Benedict Lobo : 
Global Goans - UAE : http://www.globalgoans.com/
WORLD ALLIANCE OF GOAN ASSOCIATIONS.
=



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http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_QKPfld9QLHU/StQtfKEni_I/Eyg/jkr6a7YeoQc/s1600-h/Goan+poster+B.jpg++wgd+4.jpg
=



rene barreto - 
WORLD GOA DAY - WORLD ALLIANCE OF GOAN ASSOCIATION.
   TOGETHER we are building a better GOANWORLD ! 

=

[Goanet] More on Khanddis

2009-10-30 Thread Domnic Fernandes






One podd had two solgim; one solgem had 8 annatti and after
that there was a ginnatti.

 

Moi-mogan,

 

Domnic Fernandes

Anjuna, Goa

Mob: 9420979201

 

 

Dear Fredrick, Khandi was the measure used for paddy, as I remeber 4 ozim ( 
Baskets)was equal to one khandi. 1 ozem was 4 panti, then there was 1 
kudovwhich was 2 pailis, one paili was 4 poddi, one poddi was 16anatim.(all 
salcete Cinchinim, Sarzora lingo) The fields were measured as LANCE , then 
there was 1/2 lance . ¼lance 1/8 lance etc, I think our form 1  14 shows the 
area of a lancein square meters. Regards, Sebastian Mascarenhas. Saudi Arabia   
   
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Re: [Goanet] Goan_IT_professionals linkedin.com group formed

Dear Samir,
Samir add  our company to your list. Pls get in touch with Mr. Santosh who
is handling this division as an associate company. His No: 099200 38197 Mine
: 098210 70769 Off 022 67101000 / 3421 / 3422 our web:
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Re: [Goanet] What will the future be? - GOA (LETTER AS PUBLISHED INLOCAL DAILY -OHERALDO)

2009-10-30 Thread floriano



If one wants to purchase a house or a flat in Goa, today,  the first order 
that goes out  is for  window grills and the security gate for the front 
door.


My father built his house in 1943. I and my siblings grew up in that house 
sans window grills untill after liberation and can still enjoy the memories 
when we could jump out of the windows when we played hide-n-seek. Somewhere 
around 1966 my father had all our windows fortified with grills and we had 
felt caged in. But he left the front and the back doors un-gated.


Last year I have gated the front and the back door with ms gates. Today, my 
87 year old mother is locked inside during the day as she is living alone in 
the house  with us visiting her every now and then just from across. But we 
get to hear her complains like MAKA PANDREAN GALAM? - AUN UDHON VETA TOSLEM 
SUKNEN? It is a sorry state of affairs that she cannot sit out in the 
verranda or the back balcao and leisure away her lonely hours enjoying  a 
cup to tea and chat with the passers by.


A time will come when we Goans will have to fortify our tiled roofs, the day 
when Good old  Goa will be DEAD. And we can then put the blame squarely on 
Jawaharlal Nehru's Samadi not that it is too early to do the same right now.




Cheers
floriano
goasuraj
9890470896

PS: The reported broad daylight theft today  at Margao at Verlekars is an 
eye opener for what is to come.


- Original Message - 
From: Arwin Mesquita arwinmesqu...@gmail.com

To: Goanet goa...@goanet.org
Sent: Friday, October 30, 2009 3:36 PM
Subject: [Goanet] What will the future be? - GOA (LETTER AS PUBLISHED 
INLOCAL DAILY -OHERALDO)



**
*http://www.oheraldo.in/pagedetails.asp?nid=29225cid=13*

*What will the future be?
Reuben S, Chicalim*
The justification for immigration, that India is a free country allowing its
citizens to migrate and settle anywhere, should not be extended to Goa. In
1961, the state of Goa was ‘conquered’ by India and thus had no say in
protecting its unique identity and culture through the Constitution.
Which other state in India has over 40 per cent of its population consisting
of outsiders? Which other state has so many bureaucrats from other regions
enjoying a holiday posting with little work and big returns (bribes)? Which
other state is the laughing stock of the nation because of the theatrical
behaviour of its politicians? In which other state is preferential treatment
given to migrants with regards to obtaining important documents, housing,
civic amenities and jobs?
Immigration always leads to common conflicts between the local population
and the migrants. These are often the result of simmering tensions between
communities, often caused by sudden change in the demographic and religious
composition of the population.
The recent acts of brazen crime have created a fear psychosis in the minds
of Goenkars. If these are the times we live through, what is the future of
our children going to be? Will they get a chance to see and understand the
Goan beauty and culture we were born and brought up with?

Re: [Goanet] CCP to restor Pangim garden.

2009-10-30 Thread J. Colaco jc

Dear Bernado,

I trust we all know the difference between Restore and Maintain /Preserve.

The least you could do is - appreciate the efforts of the CCP to do
something positive for the city.

I wonder why we have to go Kem Che Saru Che on this one.

Do you normally go: Whu Flung Dungh in your parts of the world?

Man are you prejudiced or what?

jc


2009/10/29 Bernado Colaco ole_...@yahoo.co.uk

  Arre Parekhbhai kemcho sarucho, is it not your duty to preserve the garden
 everyday? Even the gujus are getting foolish?

 BC


 CCP to restore Panaji garden
 PANAJI: The Corporation of the City of Panaji (CCP) plans to gift the city
 a restored garden by December 8, to coincide with the feast of the church
 and is taking the help of the Goa Forest Development Corporation (GFDC) to
 achieve this.

[Goanet] Dr. Renato Gracias, Goan patriot, R.I.P.

2009-10-30 Thread Mario Goveia

Dr. Renato Gracias, dear family friend, medical doctor, retired Indian Army 
Officer, ex-Pune Health Officer, past President of the Pune Goan Institute, 
Goan patriot and author, proud Lotlikar, accomplished a lot in his 97 years 
before passing peacefully into eternity on 27, October 2009 in Pune.

From Goan Voice, U.K.
27 Oct: Pune, India. DR RENATO GRACIAS (Born 1912). Husband of Prudencia. 
Father of Winston, Oscar, Doreen, Freddy, Alcina, and Mario. Funeral on 29 Oct. 
at Pune.

From, Cities.ExpressIndia.com, 9, April, 2005.

http://cities.expressindia.com/fullstory.php?newsid=124296

[Goanet] Africa Goans v/s Gulf Goans

2009-10-30 Thread Carvalho


Ok guys and girls,

So far Africa Goans have sent me loads of pictures, posters, etc. What have 
Gulf Goans sent me? Nothing.

Ok, Seby you sent me some, but those are copyright. They are beautiful though. 
Wish I could just take them.

Come on Gulf Goans, you don't want to be outdone by African Goans.

Get those old 1960s, 70s, 80s, photographs out. Black and whites would be 
great, photos of churchs or schools where Goans dominate, would be good.

photos from anywhere in the Gulf, Kuwait, Bahrain, UAE, Qatar, Muscat, welcome.

Best,
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Re: [Goanet] What is a khandi

2009-10-30 Thread Santosh Helekar

--- On Fri, 10/30/09, Albert Desouza alizadeso...@hotmail.com wrote:
 
 Albert replies:- A khandi is equal to 20 kuddos. One kuddo
 is two pailis and one paili is equal to four poddis. We had
 a measure called podd. One kilo is equal to one and quarter
 podd. 
 

Podd is a measure of volume. Kilo, assuming it is kilogram, is a measure of 
mass, or in common parlance, weight. A podd of tisreo cannot have the same 
weight as a podd of rice. So, one kilo of what is equal to a podd and a quarter 
of it? 

Rice, tisreo, sugar, wheat, chirmuleo, chonne, bhiknna?

Cheers,

Santosh

[Goanet] POLITICIANS SHOULD BE ABOVE SUSPICION

2009-10-30 Thread Aires Rodrigues

In order to manipulate the law, the principle of jurisprudence that a person
is presumed to be innocent till proved guilty in a court is being invoked to
shield tainted politicians. The presumption of innocence relates to a
routine criminal offence and not to unbecoming conduct of a person holding
public office. Conduct amounting to a wrongdoing justifies a prohibition
from holding public office.

In the case of a government servant accused of serious misconduct he is met
with suspension till his case goes through a disciplinary inquiry and later
to Court. In line with this suspension from service in case of government
servants there has to be a bar to holding public office for elected
representatives till the outcome of the cases against them is revealed.

Ministers should not hold office once an F.I.R is registered against them
more so a charge sheet. They will misuse their power and authority to
manipulate their trial. This is exactly what has happened in the case of Goa
Health Minister Mr. Vishwajit Rane who Police Inspector Mr. Gurudas Gawade
claimed he could not trace for almost two months to serve him court
summons.  As emphasised by Prime Minister Dr. Manmohan Singh the standard
for those in public life should be that not only Caesar but even Caesar's
wife should be above suspicion.
Aires Rodrigues
Ribandar

[Goanet] Talking Photos: River Sal, Bridge etc

2009-10-30 Thread JoeGoaUk

Talking Photos: River Sal, Bridge etc
 
River Sal
http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk6/4057074096/sizes/l/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk6/4057075010/sizes/l/

bridge across the river  - (Orlim -Deussa link)
http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoaukbridges/4056262991/sizes/l/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoaukbridges/4057003384/sizes/l/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoaukbridges/4057004324/sizes/l/
 
18 years old
http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoaukbridges/4056265995/


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[Goanet] Goa news for October 31, 2009

2009-10-30 Thread Goanet News Service

Goa News from Google News and Goanet.org
Visit http://www.goanet.org/newslinks.php for the full stories.

*** Goa government monitoring Sanatan Sanstha activities -
SamayLive
ing Hindu organisation ...
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*** Journalist tipped off Goa police about NRI fugitive - Sify
ff from a journalist that helped police in Goa arrest Ajay
Kaushal, the NRI from Britain who was fleeing a 15-year sentence
for assault and ...
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*** Sesa Goa Gets Probe Notice from Fraud Investigation Agency
- Wall Street Journal
 Sesa Goa Ltd., a unit of Vedanta Resources Plc, said Thursday
it has received a notice from India's federal fraud ...
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*** Viva Kerala beat Sporting Club Goa 4-2 - Indopia
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Preview: Viva Kerala - Sporting Clube de Goa
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*** Sesa Goa slips six pc on BSE - Press Trust of India
gDmsnIPC5vwMetal counters lose shine on LME volatility
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*** Ranbir Kapoor rushes to Goa for Katrina's rescue -
bollywoodhungama
14:19 IST It's so hard to capture the very essence of what
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*** Goan film to compete at IFFI too - Herald Publications
inning movie, which created ripples at the recent Toronto Film
Festival, is likely to compete with the ...
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*** Civilian War Memorial to come up in Goa soon - Press Trust
of India
ess Trust of IndiaPanaji, Oct 29 (PTI) Nearly five decades
after they laid down their lives for liberation of Goa from the
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*** Indian Iron-Ore Exporter Is Target of Fraud Inquiry - New
York Times
re exporter, said Thursday that it was under investigation by
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*** Miner Sesa Goa Gets Probe Notice - Wall Street Journal
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[Goanet] More on Khandis... Kullov, Paili, anattim etc

2009-10-30 Thread JoeGoaUk

Thanks FN,
 
I think 4 anattim make a Poll (and not 16)
Neighbours used to borrow from us ‘poll bhor tandull’
We did not have any paddy fields.
 
One anattem is roughly the size of Milk Maid (Condensed Milk) tin.
The milk tin was widely used as an unit of measurement ‘anattem’
 
Paili is a wooden round unit – see pic.
 
Wedding Cakes, until early 80’s were of 4-5 round layers.
In the order of Ex-Large (bottom layer) , large, medium and small (top)
(On top, they used to keep a big baby doll (sitted).
The bottom layer was always the fake layer made up of wooden round paili.
All the layers (placed on each other w/o stands) were decorated
 with white paper (Noketra foli).
The bridal couple, often seen cutting the cake (poking their knife)
 into the lowest layer only to find it was hard wood, then they will 
go in for second layer which was the cake so also the third and the foruth.
 
Poll is still used by Festache Chonnekars and Tisriokars (Grams  clams) 
 
Check tisrio/poll here
http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk2/84916354/
 
See chonne/poll – Calvim Saligao, chinchinim
http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk18/3496703293/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoaukchurches/3756940665/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk1/2861403223/
 
Kullov is something like a square or rectangular wooden box- see pic
 
Paili (Staked)  -weights and liq. Measurement units also seen
http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk2/2187645053/
 
Paili, polli etc
http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk2/121767390/
 
Kullov
http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk2/121767391/
 
 
We call Handdi iso of Khanddi

Quote:
[Goanet] More on Khandis...
Very useful information from Sebastian... could anyone offer metric
equivalents? FN
-- Forwarded message --
From: sebastian mascarenhas masky28 at rediffmail.com
To: fn at goa-india.org

Dear Fredrick,
Khandi was the measure used for paddy, as I remeber 4 ozim ( Baskets)
was equal to one khandi. 1 ozem was 4 panti, then there was 1 kudov
which was 2 pailis, one paili was 4 poddi, one poddi was 16
anatim.(all salcete Cinchinim, Sarzora lingo)
The fields were measured as LANCE , then there was 1/2 lance . 1/4
lance 1/8 lance etc, I think our form 1  14 shows the area of a lance
in square meters.


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Re: [Goanet] What is a khandi

2009-10-30 Thread Fatima Gracias

What about ananti and geananti (sorry for the spellings) used to measure 
rice and other cereals.? Is one paili equivalent to four ananti?

Fatima Gracias
- Original Message - 
From: Santosh Helekar chimbel...@yahoo.com

To:  estb. 1994!Goa's premiere mailing list goanet@lists.goanet.org
Sent: Friday, October 30, 2009 8:59 PM
Subject: Re: [Goanet] What is a khandi

--- On Fri, 10/30/09, Albert Desouza alizadeso...@hotmail.com wrote:

Albert replies:- A khandi is equal to 20 kuddos. One kuddo
is two pailis and one paili is equal to four poddis. We had
a measure called podd. One kilo is equal to one and quarter
podd.

Podd is a measure of volume. Kilo, assuming it is kilogram, is a measure 
of mass, or in common parlance, weight. A podd of tisreo cannot have the 
same weight as a podd of rice. So, one kilo of what is equal to a podd and 
a quarter of it?

Rice, tisreo, sugar, wheat, chirmuleo, chonne, bhiknna?

Cheers,

Santosh

Re: [Goanet] More on Khandis...


Oh...bless my Lord...pray bless my ever evanescent memory
machine: I forgot the mightiest of them all: The 'khumb' = 20 'khandis'

A 'khumba bathkar/ba'kar' the veritable magnet to all mouth-drooling
match-makers...

Alfred...


 From: alfredtava...@hotmail.com
 To: goanet@lists.goanet.org
 Date: Fri, 30 Oct 2009 12:37:10 +0100
 Subject: Re: [Goanet] More on Khandis...
 
 
 Good info for our posterity, Bostaum-bab...
 
 You forgot the 'mhon' = 'odez (2 1/2) 'kudov' or 'panch (5)
 paileo/pailis'.
 
 Chacha... 
 
  Date: Fri, 30 Oct 2009 14:31:14 +0530
  From: f...@goa-india.org
  To: goanet@lists.goanet.org
  Subject: [Goanet] More on Khandis...
  
  Very useful information from Sebastian... could anyone offer metric
  equivalents? FN
  
  -- Forwarded message --
  From: sebastian mascarenhas mask...@rediffmail.com
  To: f...@goa-india.org
  
  
  Dear Fredrick,
  
  Khandi was the measure used for paddy, as I remeber 4 ozim ( Baskets)
  was equal to one khandi. 1 ozem was 4 panti, then there was 1 kudov
  which was 2 pailis, one paili was 4 poddi, one poddi was 16
  anatim.(all salcete Cinchinim, Sarzora lingo)
  
  The fields were measured as LANCE , then there was 1/2 lance . 1/4
  lance 1/8 lance etc, I think our form 1  14 shows the area of a lance
  in square meters.
  
  Regards,
  
  Sebastian Mascarenhas.
  
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