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Albert explains:- Khandi is a measure using a paili which is a round vessel used in olden days for measuring items like paddy, rice, flour, millets, etc. It is made up of 20 kuddos which is also another measure. Now there are no instruments to measure khandis and kuddos. we make use of a pailli. Two paillis make one kuddo and 20 kuddos make one khandi. Now a days paddy is weighed . Then we have quintals . how many kuddos make a quintal i do not know. then we have smaller measures. Podd is a smaller unit. 4 podds make one pailli. then we have ornattti which is still smaller and girnatti which is the smallest. _ New Windows 7: Find the right PC for you. Learn more. http://windows.microsoft.com/shop
[Goanet] Daily Grook #555
DAILY GROOK #555 === VIOLENT CONTENT === by Francis Rodrigues u heard this before - still has relevance, the music i deplore is sax and violins! http://www.KonkaniSongBook.com === sheet-music,tab,lyrics,chords of great Konkani pop hits GOA: PEDRO FERNANDES: Tel.2226642 FURTADOS: Tel.2223278 === http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=119017685910 _ Lots of fantastic Windows 7 offers, in one convenient place. Get the perfect deal for you now. http://go.microsoft.com/?linkid=9691633
[Goanet] India issues one thousandth final fInal warning
To Goanet - * In a very strongly worded speech, Home Minister P Chidambaram has issued what he called a final warning to Pakistan. Speaking at a public meeting in Madurai, the Home Minister said if Pakistan tries to send terrorists into India again, India would give a crushing response. I've been warning Pakistan every time, to not play with us again and to stop with the Mumbai game. I'm warning Pakistan for the last time. If Pakistan attempts to send terrorists into India again, India will not only foil those attempts but also give them a crushing response, said Chidambaram. * My remark: Good to finally know that 26/11 Mumbai was a game. I bet the mullahs are trembling at this warning by the Indian toughie. r
[Goanet] Talking Photos: St. Michael Church (1548) Orlim, Goa
Thanks, Because you say so, I too thought it could be a typo error on my part. However, after verification, it was found out that it wasn’t a typo error after all. My source is Goa Bishop’s Palace Website. The date they quote are the dates of Establishment e.g Orlim Church war established in the year 1548. Check this out. http://www.archgoadaman.org/?q=content/parishes Check some excerpts from the site. OLAULIM: St Anne (1985) Olaulim, Carona P. O. 403 523, Goa. C: 818. T: 2295404. ORLIM: St Michael (1548) Orlim 403 724, Goa. C: 3000. T: 2745768. OXEL: Our Lady of the Sea (1616) Oxel, Siolim P.O. 403 517, Goa. C: 485. T: 2270115. NOTE: Details are given in the following order: 1) PLACE (Olim), 2) PATRON (St. Michael), 3) YEAR OF ESTABLISHMENT (1548), 4) ADDRESS (Orlim, 403204, Goa), 5) NUMBER OF CATHOLICS: (C: 3000), 6) TELEPHONE NUMBER: (T: 2745768). For any queries and details regarding the website, kindly contact: DIOCESAN CENTRE FOR SOCIAL COMMUNICATIONS MEDIA Fr Francisco X. Caldeira Archbishop's House, Altinho-Panaji, Goa 403001. Email: dcscm...@gmail.com Ph: +91-832-2422653 Quote: [Goanet] Talking Photos: St. Michael Church (1548) Orlim, Goa Themistocles D'Silva tdsilva at bellsouth.net Sat Oct 31 21:05:09 PDT 2009 These are great photographs of the Church and the altars. The date of the founding of the church should be 1568 and not 1548. I am assuming it was just a typo error nevertheless it should be corrected as this inadvertent error will get propagated and confuse many readers. The Jesuits entered the province of Salcete in 1560. From: JoeGoaUk Talking Photos: St. Michael Church (1548) Orlim, Goa St. Michael Church (1548) Orlim, Goa http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoaukchurches/4056982188/sizes/l/ close up http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoaukchurches/4056243083/sizes/l/ joego...@yahoo.co.uk for Goa NRI related info... http://in.groups.yahoo.com/group/GOAN-NRI/ For Goan Video Clips http://youtube.com/joeukgoa In Goa, Dial 1 0 8 For Hospital, Police, Fire etc Try the new Yahoo! India Homepage. Click here. http://in.yahoo.com/trynew
[Goanet] What is a khandi
'Khandi' is part of former weights and measurements. One 'khandi' is equal to 220.32 kgs MD. Message: 2 Date: Sat, 31 Oct 2009 13:53:04 -0400 From: TRS shivshakti.ka...@gmail.com To: Goanet goa...@goanet.org Subject: Re: [Goanet] What is a khandi Message-ID: blu0-smtp588c57e084540e70d9dfeeb3...@phx.gbl 1kilo of what? kuddav and paili were measures of volumes. Khandi had other equvalents. Enviado do meu iPhone
Re: [Goanet] What is a khandi
Thanks a lot MD. That was very precise! 2009/11/1 MD mmdme...@gmail.com 'Khandi' is part of former weights and measurements. One 'khandi' is equal to 220.32 kgs If you don't mind me asking another (potentially silly) question: when someone says, 'That is a five-khandi field' do they mean the field yields five khandis of paddy? Or rice? Just curious... Very tough to get references to such information online and even in the printed world perhaps. FN -- Frederick Noronha :: +91-832-2409490 Writing, editing, alt.publishing, photography, journalism Books from Goa: http://tiny.cc/goabooks
[Goanet] Request for words for monkey in Konknni
In response to : Message: 2 Date: Thu, 29 Oct 2009 22:16:38 +0400 From: Blasio Fernandes blasio.fernan...@emirates.com Subject: [Goanet] Request for words for monkey in Konknni Hi Blasio, Mankod or Makod is one and the same as I stated before, the female monkey is also known as Makode, the leader of the group is known as Zungo he is usually the meanest and the biggest monkey of the group, who dominates the group, especially the females. Hetem has a very close resemblance with makod, slightly darker in colour, slightly smaller than the normal makod in size, one major difference is makod does not feast on tender coconuts whereas hetem can devastate a coconut plantation in no time, I remember in the mid 80's, two hetim somehow landed in our village and a good number of coconut trees were completely devastate in just one hour or so, the people tried a lot of ways to chase them off, beating utensils, lighting fire crackers, flinging stones, dogs where brought in but they wouldn't go, A couple of my tree too got the treatment, the coconut trees were very tall so probably they thought they were safe, so unfortunately I had no option but to shoot them down.. The last time I had visited the Vidhan Sabha, it did look like a zoo, I had also seen two guys resembling a gorilla and an ape, from the look of them they looked to be family members from south Goa, then there was some one who reminded me of a baboon, who thinks his, is always red from the other side of Panjim, there was also the trickster chimp from Quepem, a couple of hetim from Canacona seemed to be ready to snatch food packets from the visitors, and ofcourse the Zungo from Margao kept a close look on all the visitors. If you visit the Vidhan Sabha in the near future please let me know if you come encounter any new species. Freddy Agnelo Fernandes The content of this electronic communication is intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom it is addressed and any others who are specifically authorized to receive it. It may contain confidential or legally privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, distribution or otherwise placing reliance on the contents of this information is prohibited and may be unlawful in certain legal jurisdictions. If you have received this communication in error please notify the sender immediately by responding to this email and then delete it from your system. __ This email has been scanned by the MessageLabs Email Security System. For more information please visit http://www.messagelabs.com/email __
[Goanet] ALERT: Narcotics business thriving in coastal areas of Goa
-- Do GOACAN a favour, circulate this email to your family members, relatives, neighbours and friends. Help other CONSUMERS to be better informed. --- Documented by Goa Desc Resource Centre (GDRC) Email: goad...@bsnl.in --- - Narcotics business thriving in coastal areas: Drug lords using minors - Suraj Nandrekar Goa, the smallest state of the country, which was once famous for its pristine beaches is now also known for drug peddling even as the government said it is helpless in eliminating the crime completely. While the State has been trying to get tough with gambling (casinos) due to protests from the locals, the business of drugs and prostitution has been thriving in the coastal areas. From the year 2002 till 2008 drugs worth Rs 4.35 crore has been seized from the coastal areas and the residents of the locality say it is just the tip of an iceberg. For drug charges, the Goa Police has arrested 233 persons so far under the NDPS Act and surprisingly 104 of them are foreigners. Incidentally, according to the statistics, the number of persons arrested and cases booked by ANC during Manohar Parrikar’s BJP and Pratapsing Rane’s and Digambar Kamat’s Congress regimes has been in the same range during the seven-year period. For long the residents in the coastal areas have maintained that some persons from Russia and Nigeria are involved in drug peddling in a big way. “These are just allegations and there is nothing to substantiate that charge by the locals,” DySP Sammy Tavares, who is in-charge of the coastal area police stations in North Goa told Herald. He said, the police continue to keep a vigil on the foreigners in civil dress and whenever they get any tip-off they immediately inform the Anti Narcotics Cell or the nearest police station, which conducts raids. When contacted Chief Secretary Sanjay Srivastava, who is also the Home Secretary, admitted the drug trade has been going on in the coastal areas. “It (the drug trade) has been going on in the coastal areas of the State but the police are doing their best to control it,” Srivastava told Herald when contacted telephonically. He said that it was very difficult to eliminate the business completely but it can be controlled. “It is very difficult to eliminate the drug trade right away and we are trying to control it so that slowly it dies its own death,” he said. The Home Minister Ravi Naik for last three years has been maintaining that his department will keep a tab on rave parties, which is the main sales point for drugs – the area where the police has failed miserably. The shocking rape and murder of a British teenager Scarlett Keeling’s death cast a long shadow over the state, with claims that drug abuse and drunken debauchery were taking place with the full knowledge of the police. But the local force still maintains it is doing its best to tackle the menace. “We have taken steps to crack down on the practice even before the first foreign visitors arrived in search of fun and winter warmth on Goa’s inviting tropical beaches this year,” a police officer who did not want to be named said. “From this season onwards, shack owners will be held responsible for drug consumption, sale or deals in their premises,” he said. Use of Minors: In keeping with the trend among drug smugglers worldwide of coming up with innovated ideas to escape the law, drug lords based in Goa are using minors (both boys and girls). The use of minors is meant to circumvent the Indian criminal system. According to the Indian Juvenile Justice Act, if a juvenile commits a bailable or non-bailable offence, the child shall be released on bail with or without surety. Further detention can only be in an observation home and not in a prison or police station. Under the amended narcotic laws - NDPS (Narcotics Drugs and Psychotropic Substances) Act - possession of drugs of less than ten grams is for individual consumption and worthy of a minimum sentence of six months. Anything above ten grams rates a ten-year sentence and a fine of Rs one lakh. Any subsequent offence means an offender is handed a much higher penalty in both sentence and fine. -- HERALD 01/11/09 page 2 -- GOA CIVIC AND CONSUMER ACTION NETWORK --- promoting civic and consumer rights in Goa --- GOACAN Post Box 187 Margao, Goa 403 601 GOACAN Post Box 78 Mapusa, Goa 403 507 mail: goa...@bsnl.in --
Re: [Goanet] India issues one thousandth final fInal warning
My remark: Good to finally know that 26/11 Mumbai was a game. I bet the mullahs are trembling at this warning by the Indian toughie. Comment: Khonk - Phoo - Khonk Khonk [I am chocking with a good sizeable lauuuhh ! A ! :-)) ((-: Echea pudveak uzo lait zalear ho pudvem sodun danvtolo mhure ! floriano goasuraj 9890470896 - Original Message - From: Rajan P. Parrikar parri...@yahoo.com To: goa...@goanet.org Sent: Sunday, November 01, 2009 1:15 PM Subject: [Goanet] India issues one thousandth final fInal warning To Goanet - * In a very strongly worded speech, Home Minister P Chidambaram has issued what he called a final warning to Pakistan. Speaking at a public meeting in Madurai, the Home Minister said if Pakistan tries to send terrorists into India again, India would give a crushing response. I've been warning Pakistan every time, to not play with us again and to stop with the Mumbai game. I'm warning Pakistan for the last time. If Pakistan attempts to send terrorists into India again, India will not only foil those attempts but also give them a crushing response, said Chidambaram.
[Goanet] Talking photos: Campal gorund, CCP's Giant TV etc
Talking photos: Campal gorund, CCP's Giant TV etc Dayanand Bandodkar ground http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk6/4059021637/sizes/l/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk6/4059022419/sizes/l/ Money, money money But where all the money gone? This is CCP's Controversial Giant TV http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk6/4059767020/sizes/l/ But who has the remote control?* How to make ‘Mando’ from Mandovi Very simple, take off the last two letters ‘vi’ http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk6/4056224095/ *Remote control , one may try here http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk1/2567037563/sizes/l/ joego...@yahoo.co.uk for Goa NRI related info... http://in.groups.yahoo.com/group/GOAN-NRI/ For Goan Video Clips http://youtube.com/joeukgoa In Goa, Dial 1 0 8 For Hospital, Police, Fire etc Add whatever you love to the Yahoo! India homepage. Try now! http://in.yahoo.com/trynew
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Resp Veronica having read your posting by kranti blog regading Indian football organizes in Kuwait. It shows that you are a critic but when you write in media you got to lay down facts not taking sides of any individuals or friends. Let me start form the beginning in those very old days at soor grounds when I used to come with my father to watch the game we used to laugh an enjoy the game as well as their environment . YOUR MAIL SAYS NOTHING ABOUT IT BUT GLORIFIES FEW INDIVIDUALS AND YOUR SELF. I am sure if uncle J.P . Dmello (R.S.P) was alive today would have told you who are the founders of K.I.F.F. For your information as I was told by the old timers who are still alive the constitution was brought from Delhi by uncle thorough a friend who is also goan and in those days played for Dempo I know all these through my elders. People who are actually involved are uncle Rato, Uncle Dsouza, Uncle carvalho, Uncle willy(R.S.P) They were the people who were there when uncle J.P was there. The names you mentioned ware given everything on a golden plate. I wonder who is new I.F.F.K as mentioned by you same that they unprofessional. I only pray to God that day do not end the same situation as K.I.F.F. The soul objective of any sports personal is to promote sports in a sportsmanship sprit. Rather than glorifying oneself. We can learn more of this by reading the massage written by a very good sport personal an ex president of K.I.F.F. ( Manual dcosta) the entire story after listening and looking and both the sides issues. K.I.F.F. had its ups and downs as said by manual . The federation rules way constituted in the 80’s and till date never amended. If we look at commute you will see the all faces. As far as I know uncle J.P.Dmello who was the master mind of drafting K.I.F.F. and the constitution had help from few people as mentioned above you may cross check with uncle rato who is visiting Kuwait for Canada. After reading this whole email you might have realize where you stand in the world of football in Kuwait. As a foot ball lover which is a universal sports. I only pray same spirit of true sportsmanship regains in Kuwait. So that we enjoy the same all football as we enjoyed on the soor grounds. Rather than governed by politics escape in operating now. Veronica my humble request to you if you have proof and well inform than write on the blog otherwise be a silent observer and let the sports the football rise and flourish as it’s doing in Goa. Yahoo! India has a new look. Take a sneak peek http://in.yahoo.com/trynew
[Goanet] Ranking of Countries
Countries Ranking Based on Health, Wealth, Prosperity, DEMOCRACY in the Country, FREEDOM of EXPRESSION. Happiness and Quality of Life. # 1. Finland. # 2. Switzerland. # 3. Sweden. # 4. Denmark. # 5. Norway. # 6. Australia. # 7. Canada. # 8. Netherland. # 9. USA. #10. New Zealand. # 11. Ireland. # 12. UK. # 45. India. # 95. Kenya. # 97 Tanzania. # 99. Pakistan. The Last # 124. Ethiopia. Want Prosperity? Index Ranks Finland as Place to Be # 1. Tue Oct 27, 2009 11:42am IST SINGAPORE (Reuters Life!) - For those who value their freedom of expression as much as health, wealth, and prosperity, then Finland is the place to be, with an index ranking the Nordic nation the best in the world. The 2009 Legatum Prosperity Index, published on Tuesday and compiled by the Legatum Institute, an independent policy, advocacy and advisory organization, ranked 104 countries which are home to 90 percent of the world's population. The index is based on a definition of prosperity that combines economic growth with the level of personal freedoms and democracy in a country as well as measures of happiness and quality of life. With the exception of Switzerland, which came in at number 2, Nordic countries dominated the top 5 slots, with Sweden in third place followed by Denmark and Norway. The top 10 were all also Western nations, with Australia (6th place) and Canada (7th place) both beating the United States, ranked 9th. Britain came in at number 12. In Asia, Japan was the region's highest ranked country at number 16, followed by Hong Kong (18th place) and Singapore (23rd place) and Taiwan (24th place). Dr. William Inboden, senior vice president of the Legatum Institute, said the lower rankings for Asian nations were largely due to their weak scores for democracy and personal freedoms. Many Asian nations have good economic fundamentals, but the Index tells us that true prosperity requires more than just money, Inboden said in a statement. Democratic institutions and personal freedom measures are letting some Asian nations down. Furthermore, countries which have low levels of economic stability, such as Cambodia, finish even further down in the overall rankings. Cambodia came in the 93rd slot while China, with its tight political controls, came in 75th despite booming economic growth. And the world's least prosperous country? According to the Legatum Index, it is Zimbabwe, with Sudan and Yemen close runners-up. The index combines objective data and subjective responses to surveys. More details can be found on www.prosperity.com.
[Goanet] Let us pray
Albert writes:- Who will know about heaven, God, and souls better ? the one who has come from there or the one who is imagining things to be ? while on one hand Jesus who has descended from the Father, who has seen Heaven has told us to come to him and he will take us to the Father, what better assurance there can be then this ? Aren't we foolish to believe in someone who has never seen heaven, never seen God or purgortory? while Jesus speaks about heaven and hell people over here from time to time have been talking about purgortory and souls in purgortary casting aspersion on Jesus' preaching. And we the blind are led by the other blind leaders who have made just fake thesis for their own benefits or may be because they are ignorant. can some one give proof ? _ Windows 7: Find the right PC for you. Learn more. http://windows.microsoft.com/shop
Re: [Goanet] Talking Photo: Ghantta boil -Tulshi Logn etc
Joe, I always knew it to be a 'Ghansa Boil'. 1st time I am hearing of a 'Ghantta boil'! Naguesh Bhatcar sgbhat...@hotmail.com Date: Sat, 31 Oct 2009 23:07:07 + From: joego...@yahoo.co.uk Subject: [Goanet] Talking Photo: Ghantta boil -Tulshi Logn etc Ghantta boil -Tulsi Logn etc I remember the ‘Ghantta boil’ use to visit house to house with loud playing of shenai? (long clarinet type musical instrument). We used to give about ‘char anne’ (4 ana or 25 paise), But if we pay them Re.1 they would perform the ‘Tulsi login’ where the other younger cow used to perform too. Ghantta Boil http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk6/4061587397/sizes/l/ joego...@yahoo.co.uk
[Goanet] Shabbat Thoughts
A GLASS OF MILK One day, a poor boy was selling clothes door-to-door to pay for his education, realized that he only had ten cents left in his pocket. The sale was bad that day... Besides, he was so hungry and decided to ask for some food at the next house that he came to. In the meantime he lost his hunger when a beautiful young woman opened the door. Instead of a meal, he asked her for a glass of water. She saw that he was very hungry so instead brought him a huge glass of milk. He drank it very slowly and then asked: How much do I owe you? You do not owe me anything at all she said. My mother taught us never to accept anything for doing someone a kindness. He replied: Thank you then from the bottom of my heart. When Howard Kelly left the house feeling stronger physically he also sensed a return of his faith in the Lord which he had nearly abandoned. Years later, this same young woman fell gravely ill. The local doctors were mystified so they sent her to the big city where they knew the specialists would be a able to diagonise this rare sickness. Dr. Howard Kelly was called as a consultant. When he heard the name of this city where she lived, a memory burnt brightly in his eyes. He got up and went to her room, He immediately recognized her. He returned to the consultation room determined to do his best to save her life. From that day on he paid special attention to his case. After a long battle, the war was finally won. Dr. Kelly left instructions that the bill should be sent to him for authorization. He looked over and wrote something in the margin and sent it to her room. She thought when she opened the envelope she would find an invoice that would take the rest of her life to pay in full. But when she finally opened it something caught her attention in the margin of the invoice she read these words: Paid in full with a glass of milk Tears of joy filled her eyes and her heart. THANK YOU LORD she said your love crossed the hands and hearts of many. There is a saying that goes like this: Bread thrown over the water returns to you. (Proverbs) An act of goodness that you do to-day can come back to you or someone that you love, when you are least expecting it. Many persons pass through our lives, but only real friends leave their imprint in our beings! If one does not see an act of kindness returned at least one will have made a difference in this world - where gratitude and fair play is out of fashion. In the end what is this life about? This act holds a powerful insight: As the face of the moon reflects the sun, so the heart of a thankfull person reflects grace and gratitude. That's what the poorest of the poor in India's streets saw when they looked up the wrinkled face of Mother Teresa. They saw the eyes of Jesus, the tears of Jesus, and the smile of Jesus. They see a reflection of His grace and gratitude
[Goanet] 'Pesado' Goan subcriber to GN
This 'pesado' Goan I think was representative of Portugal to European Union. Probably a Portuguese and bamon hater. Studied at Liceu Afonso de Albuquerque, Pangim, used to live in Altinho. Writes without any references stories pre-61. Who can it be? BC
[Goanet] Mr. Chidambaram's war
http://www.outlookindia.com/article.aspx?262519 by Arundhati Roy
[Goanet] Casa da Moeda - Celebrating 175 years : Herald, Goa, November 1, 2009
Casa da Moeda – Celebrating 175 years of Panjim’s Mint House By Chryselle D’Silva Dias Casa da Moeda, near Panjim’s Head Post Office was Goa’s Mint House from 1834 -1841. Literally meaning ‘House of Coins’, the term ‘Casa da Moeda’ is common usage for ‘Mint’ in Portuguese. The building stands in the former Tobacco Square (Largo do Estanco), now also known as ‘Post Office Square’. According to ‘Walking in Panjim’, Tobacco Square was once the most important part of the city as trading in tobacco was planned in order to rescue the failing economy. The proximity of the river bank substantiates this as the river was the main means of trading and transport. All important buildings – the Treasury and Mint, the pillory, the chapel dedicated to S.Tomé, patron saint of builders, the market and the early houses of Panjim were built around this square. The earliest known owner of the building was one João Batista Goethalis followed by the Fazenda pública (Treasury). From 1834-1841, the Goa Mint functioned from here. The Mint was shifted to the Arsenal in 1841 after which there is a gap in our knowledge of the building’s history until 1863. Records indicate that in 1863, the building was sold to António Inácio da Silva of Santa Cruz. From 1865 to 1902, he rented it out to the English telegraph. In 1904, heirs of da Silva sold the building to Dr. Miguel Caetano Dias, whose descendants continue to live here. The building is unusual in the sense that it is possibly one of the few buildings in India that was occupied by both the Portuguese and the British Governments at various points. The Mint in Panjim According to Damião Peres: Catálogo das Moedas Indo-Portuguesas do Museu Numismático Português 1975, the then Governor General of Goa, Dom Manuel de Portugal e Castro was unhappy with the quality of coins being made at the Mint in Velha Goa and ordered the shifting of the Mint to the new capital, Nova Goa, so that the work could be carried out under his supervision. The transfer was based upon the report of a competent commission appointed by the Viceroy and dated July 2, 1832. In his book, ‘Historical Notes on Goa’, António de Menezes calls it “an important document for the history of Indo-Portuguese numismatics”. With the decree of 6 October, 1834, the governor ordered the striking of rupias, pardaus and half pardaus from twelve mãos of silver and currencies of 10, 5 and 3 réis from two arrobas of copper, mãos and arrobas being units of weight prevalent at the time. These productions inaugurated the new Mint. In 1834, Portugal was witnessing yet another political upheaval with D.Maria II being restored to the throne of Portugal after being deposed by her uncle, Miguel, who was also technically her husband. This crisis was precipitated by the death of D.Maria’s grandfather, D. João VI of Portugal in 1826. He died without specifying which of his sons – Pedro IV or Miguel who was in exile for leading a revolution against his father - would be his legal heir. Pedro IV was, at the time, King of Brazil and while most people considered him to be D. João’s legal heir, nobody wanted him to reunite the thrones of Brazil and Portugal. On the other hand, Miguel was not a popular choice either, although his supporters were ready to bring him back to the throne. In an attempt to appease everyone, Pedro IV abdicated the throne of Portugal in favour of his then seven year old daughter Maria da Glória with the condition that she marry her uncle Miguel who would be Regent until she was an adult. Miguel pretended to accept but deposed Maria from the throne as soon he arrived in Portugal, proclaiming himself King. Maria was forced to flee and spent many years in various courts of Europe. In 1834, Pedro IV attacked Miguel and forced him to abdicate, after which D.Maria was restored to her throne. Goa in the meantime, was not immune from these changes. News must have travelled rather slowly, but the effect of all these political imbroglios can be seen in the fact that only in 1835, a year after D.Maria was reinstated, a Provisional Government in Goa revoked coins with the bust of D. Miguel and replaced them with coins featuring the bust of D. Maria II. The Coins The Portuguese had minted coins in Goa ever since Afonso de Albuquerque laid claim to it in 1510. Over the next two centuries, Mints were set up in Goa, Cochin, Bassein, Daman, Chaul (60km south of Mumbai in Raigad district), and Diu. In Goa, Portuguese gold issues in Goa were named sao-tomés after St Thomas, the apostle of India. Silver coins bore different designations according to their value i.e. silver xerafim, pardau, the silver rupia, or the silver bastião. Other coins were copper tangas (sometimes silver) and the humbler bazaruco used by locals for bazaar purchases. The coins were round and had no edge-milling. Compared to the coins being minted elsewhere in the Portuguese
[Goanet] Miramar Beach
Miramar Beach http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zjte_21MTUg joego...@yahoo.co.uk for Goa NRI related info... http://in.groups.yahoo.com/group/GOAN-NRI/ For Goan Video Clips http://youtube.com/joeukgoa In Goa, Dial 1 0 8 For Hospital, Police, Fire etc Try the new Yahoo! India Homepage. Click here. http://in.yahoo.com/trynew
[Goanet] Goanet] Healthcare in America
Date: Mon, 26 Oct 2009 18:27:36 -0700 (PDT) From: Gilbert Lawrence gilbert2...@yahoo.com With the political debate in USA about healthcare, all the worms are surfacing. See link: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/10/26/health-care-system-wastes_n_333589.html Mario asks: The dirty little secret is that it is state run programs that are mostly responsible for this waste. This is why the statists like Gilbert have never proposed ways to cut out this waste before turning the rest of the system on its head to show that the statists can run even ONE government program efficiently? In fact the new system they are proposing will lead to even more waste, ineffiency and rationed health care, with government death, ...er, life panels, making decisions on the service patients receive, just like in Canada and Old Blighty where they haven't been able to get a handle on systems that are decades old. Every government run program in the US is in economic shambles, yet the statists want the health care system which represents 20% of the US economy to be government run as well. Date: Tue, 27 Oct 2009 19:54:32 -0700 (PDT) From: Gilbert Lawrence gilbert2...@yahoo.com That is the reason why many suggest to get rid on multiple insurance companies (within a region) and replace with a not-for-profit Healthcare System. Here the patient?is the community. There is emphasis on prevention, group management of diabetes, hypertension etc. and treatments with the most cost-efficient methods. Mario responds: Here we see the classic statist position - get rid of legitimate private businesses and replace them with government programs or not-for-profit companies. The dirty little secret is that not for profit organizations are never efficient because they have no incentive to be. Of course, the statists don't care. Efficiency comes from free competition and the pressure to succeed or fail. Gilbert wrote: The for-profit system is designed to generate maximize profits at every step; by whatever means (that one can make a legitimate case). Mario responds: This, too, is false. These companies have to maximize profit in competition with other companies seeking to maximize their profits. This is what keeps everyone honest over the long haul. Industries where the participants are not protected from competitive pressures are the most efficient in the world. The examples are all around us, including insurance companies that insure other risks like homeowners insurance and auto insurance. The health insurance industry in the US is less efficient precisely because they are protected in each state and unable to freely compete nationwide. The banks that failed allowed themselves to be coerced by the social engineering policies of the liberal Democrats over the years and agreed to lend to high risk borrowers. Common sense said this was a system doomed to failure, and right enough, the house of cards collapsed. The thousands of banks that did not succumb are all doing fine. Gilbert wrote: One can follow one model or other; not both - unless there are incentives and disincentives for both the consumer / patient on one hand?and the providers (doctors, hospitals, and pharmaceuticals). America has been pretending to follow both models (for profit and not-for-profit) with spin, marketing, science and fiction. We have been only fooling ourselves, as the web link below suggest. Mario observes: All we need to do is a) allow free competition by the health insurance companies across state lines, b) tort reform, c) provide assistance to cover the 15 to 20 million Americans who are currently uninsurable, and d) keep government bureaucrats and statists away from interfering in day to day affairs of these businesses. Given that there is no political will to privatize Medicare and Medicaid, these systems need to control payments they make to service providers for fraudulent health care. This is a management problem, not a system problem that only occurs in government run programs because they are not-for-profit and therefore have no incentive to be financially efficient.
Re: [Goanet] What is a khandi
I am sure its paddy freshly grown, harvasted but not boiled with husk of cource Barnabe Rodrigues
[Goanet] Goans in Oman, do not know about Bruno Coutinho
http://www.goansinoman.com/sports.htmHello my Goan brothers and football lovers how can i forgot about bruno when i mentions about the Arjuna Award, when the Goans in Oman have mentioned brahamanand, they have conveniently forgotten yet another favorite Goan son, hopefully they do justice to him on their website. Sports---[image: PDF]http://www.goansinoman.com/index2.php?option=com_contentdo_pdf=1id=56[image: Print]http://www.goansinoman.com/index2.php?option=com_contenttask=viewid=56pop=1page=0Itemid=96 Today sports brings communities, states, countries together. Every emerging country believes that sports can contribute a lot in building friendship, harmony, peace and understanding among nations. This is more true of Goa, for sports runs in every Goan’s blood. People around the globe acknowledge Goans as fun loving and peaceful people and that comes from their natural love for sports. Even though Goa is a small state, it is held in high esteem with regard to football, hockey, swimming, athletics, windsurfing and many other games. Especially football. Any discussion on Indian football cannot leave out the Goan equation. With four Goan clubs – Dempo SC, Churchill Bros SC, Clube De Sporting and Vasco SC featuring in the 12 team Indian I – league, the success of Goan clubs on the national scene bears testimony to the love and passion Goans have for this game in particular. Mr Brahmanand SK Shankhwalker is Goa’s first recipient of the Arjuna Award, which is India’s most prestigious sports award. Mr Brahmanand rose to be one of finest goalkeepers in Indian football. We the Sports Sub-committee at GCO have committed ourself to giving the Goan sports talent in Oman a platform to perform, exhibit and share sporting events amongst fellow Goans and others. We are happy to inform you of two major sports activities planned for this year: First, a 11 a side football tournament, and second, a Sport day for all Goans. We have planned the Swift Connection Cup Football Tournament on Friday, 7th of November 2008 at Al-Khuwair Oman Club grounds. A total of 12 to 14 teams will be participating in this tournament. We are expecting a crowd of around 1250 the day. Besides the league style matches, which will culminate in the semi-finals and finals, there will be spot prizes and gifts for all. A ladies football shoot-out competition will be held in the evening. Adding spice to the day, we shall have a live band in attendance. We have approached Mr Ali Al Habsi (Oman National football team Goal keeper) to be the chief guest for the finals. We request all our sports lovers to spread the news of this event so that a maximum number of Goans may utilize this opportunity to meet and interact with each other on this day. We are also planning a Sports Day / Day Out for all Goans . It will be a full day event with games, food and music. The venue, date and other details will be will be announced shortly. We encourage many more members to join us to build a strong team in order to organize more sporting events in the days to come. We also welcome any suggestions and ideas for the success of Sport Committee of GCO. The Sports committee team members incude: Mr. Anthony Lourence, Coordinator (99232150) Mr. Luis Gomes (99346722) Mr. Glorio Almeida (95145108) Mr. Agnelo Fernandes (99373481 ) Mr. Noel Rodrigues (99889027) Mr. E. Perry ( 99676472) Mr. George Fernandes Mr. Bonny Vas (99008931) Mr. Rocky Gomes Mr. Julius Fernandes Mr. Peter Rebello Mr. Filomeno D'Silva Mr. Succour Sequiera (99036270) Mr. Anthony Mascarenhas Mr. Agnelo Castro Mr. Menino Figueiredo (99025494) Mr. Ambrose Lobo Mr. Francis Lobo Mr. Lucian D Souza Mrs.Celina Rodrigues Mrs.Ezmy Fernandes
[Goanet] Goenchim Noketram in Bahrain
YOUNG GOANS CLUB Goenchim Noketram in Bahrain 'Goenchim Noketram' the cultural and folk group from Goa led by Gina Mascarenhas provided lively entertainment for Goans in Bahrain. The Goan Cultural Traditions of song and dance filled the air at the Baan Saeng Thai Restaurant Auditorium Bahrain, on October 22, 2009 where the show was held under the patronage of Young Goans Club. The group comprising of musicians, singers and dancers presented a three hour cultural fiesta of Goan song and dance. The items included Goan Dekni and Fugdi dance. The audience applauded every item presented by the group and the opera musicals in mime and movements on the life style of Xethkamti (farmer), kharvi (fisherfolk) and render (toddytaper) were cheered throughout. The presentations brought back the nostalgic memories of bygone era of Goa. The group electrified the performances by their originality and depicting the culture old tools relevant to the trade. It was wondrous to see the entire audience joining the singing as the group played some old Goan instrumentals using instruments like ghumot, mandolin, bongos and cymbals. A medley of Hindi, Portuguese, English and Konkani favourites of yester years got many in the crowd on to their feet and were seen dancing and swaying to the beat. The show culminated with traditional mando and dulpods. The group not only won laurels for their song and dance but for the costumes and jewellery they showcased relevant to each presentation. 'Goenchim Noketram' the cultural and folk group from South Goa are the award winners at Mando Festivals held all over Goa in 2008 and 2009. The group has also performed at the inaugural ceremony of International Film Festival in November 2008 and at the concluding ceremony of Asia Pacific Conference in October 2008. Goenchim Noketram have toured different parts of India to present their shows and were the main attractions for Goa Day celebrations in Dubai in June 2008. The show in Bahrain was sponsored by Jet Airways. GR Crasto compered the show and kept the audience spellbound with witty questions on Goan culture, songs and personalities that carried prizes donated by the group 'Goenchim Noketram'. Report and pictures exclusive by www.goa-world.com 30/10/2009
[Goanet] Goa news for November 2, 2009
Goa News from Google News and Goanet.org Visit http://www.goanet.org/newslinks.php for the full stories. *** Goa government monitoring Sanatan Sanstha activities - SamayLive ing Hindu organisation ... http://news.google.com/news/url?fd=Rsa=Turl=http://www.samaylive.com/news/goa-government-monitoring-sanatan-sanstha-activities/665096.htmlusg=AFQjCNFe9L0nJP_QZBGz_MIB5le1ll2Kgg *** Journalist tipped off Goa police about NRI fugitive - Sify ff from a journalist that helped police in Goa arrest Ajay Kaushal, the NRI from Britain who was fleeing a 15-year sentence for assault and ... http://news.google.com/news/url?fd=Rsa=Turl=http://sify.com/news/Journalist-tipped-off-Goa-police-about-NRI-fugitive-news-jk2l4dh.htmlusg=AFQjCNHVZ3oUMDUA6MDPu55TkxJtZAe7Ng *** Sesa Goa Gets Probe Notice from Fraud Investigation Agency - Wall Street Journal Sesa Goa Ltd., a unit of Vedanta Resources Plc, said Thursday it has received a notice from India's federal fraud ... http://news.google.com/news/url?fd=Rsa=Turl=http://online.wsj.com/article/SB125679572352815329.html?mod=googlenews_wsjusg=AFQjCNFbpXVA6k49jmVe_rcFUqefJ4rBdg *** Viva Kerala beat Sporting Club Goa 4-2 - Indopia ndia/news/1064/i-league/2009/10/28/1589109/i-league-preview-viva-kerala-sporting-clube-de-goausg=AFQjCNGQhnhk6LcnTJDVFdQvI5AWfUNNNwI-League Preview: Viva Kerala - Sporting Clube de Goa http://news.google.com/news/url?fd=Rsa=Turl=http://www.indopia.in/India-usa-uk-news/latest-news/692649/Sports/5/20/5usg=AFQjCNG81uaBi--SBdsaKwT-QaAb7ltkNw *** Sesa Goa slips six pc on BSE - Press Trust of India gDmsnIPC5vwMetal counters lose shine on LME volatility http://news.google.com/news/url?fd=Rsa=Turl=http://www.ptinews.com/news/352612_Sesa-Goa-slips-six-pc-on-BSEusg=AFQjCNEQCPZqraku7k74l9d51zXo-Gx7yw *** Ranbir Kapoor rushes to Goa for Katrina's rescue - bollywoodhungama 14:19 IST It's so hard to capture the very essence of what makes Goa irresistible, we all know the ...a class= http://news.google.com/news/url?fd=Rsa=Turl=http://www.bollywoodhungama.com/features/2009/10/29/5619/usg=AFQjCNFPqjMiP8gTb3AWkbJ5yAGseX5AsQ *** Goan film to compete at IFFI too - Herald Publications inning movie, which created ripples at the recent Toronto Film Festival, is likely to compete with the ... http://news.google.com/news/url?fd=Rsa=Turl=http://oheraldo.in/pagedetails.asp?nid=29259cid=2usg=AFQjCNGk_WKH0lpfzCFnGguzslNJrqnJzw *** Civilian War Memorial to come up in Goa soon - Press Trust of India ess Trust of IndiaPanaji, Oct 29 (PTI) Nearly five decades after they laid down their lives for liberation of Goa from the Portuguese rule, a Civilian War Memorial would be ...a class= http://news.google.com/news/url?fd=Rsa=Turl=http://www.ptinews.com/news/352708_Civilian-War-Memorial-to-come-up-in-Goa-soonusg=AFQjCNFSMfdAnM_BRliHAmfm-iU9gsqRfQ *** Indian Iron-Ore Exporter Is Target of Fraud Inquiry - New York Times re exporter, said Thursday that it was under investigation by the ...a class= http://news.google.com/news/url?fd=Rsa=Turl=http://www.nytimes.com/2009/10/30/business/global/30fraud.htmlusg=AFQjCNG54Pq91gFkG5n-oIoWIEZD_wH6Ew *** Miner Sesa Goa Gets Probe Notice - Wall Street Journal nvestigation agency has notified the iron-ore miner about a probe into ...a class= http://news.google.com/news/url?fd=Rsa=Turl=http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704317704574503152018151862.html?mod=googlenews_wsjusg=AFQjCNH1b_FDHkFWrnRBNldx2Mm-wf4EjQ Compiled by Goanet News Service http://www.goanet.org/newslinks.php
[Goanet] Tiatr RAGAN KAZAR MOGAN DIVORCE
Tiatr RAGAN KAZAR MOGAN DIVORCE http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a0dOywAQkTs joego...@yahoo.co.uk for Goa NRI related info... http://in.groups.yahoo.com/group/GOAN-NRI/ For Goan Video Clips http://youtube.com/joeukgoa In Goa, Dial 1 0 8 For Hospital, Police, Fire etc Yahoo! India has a new look. Take a sneak peek http://in.yahoo.com/trynew
Re: [Goanet] Let us pray
Have you ever considered consulting a medical practitioner ? ! eric. Albert writes:- Who will know about heaven, God, and souls better ? the one who has come from there or the one who is imagining things to be ? while on one hand Jesus who has descended from the Father, who has seen Heaven has told us to come to him and he will take us to the Father, what better assurance there can be then this ? Aren't we foolish to believe in someone who has never seen heaven, never seen God or purgortory? while Jesus speaks about heaven and hell people over here from time to time have been talking about purgortory and souls in purgortary casting aspersion on Jesus' preaching. And we the blind are led by the other blind leaders who have made just fake thesis for their own benefits or may be because they are ignorant. can some one give proof ? _ Windows 7: Find the right PC for you. Learn more. http://windows.microsoft.com/shop
[Goanet] Pensao: A tradition wrapped in myth
Pensao: A tradition wrapped in myth TNN 2 November 2009, 01:41am IST On Monday, as Catholics observe All Soul's Day and make their annual visit to cemeteries, many will be regretting having forgotten to offer a mass for the eternal repose of their ancestor's souls. That is something most Goan Catholics unfailingly do every year. Many even offer masses for the repose of souls of people who have never been associated with the family. For in the hoary corridors of Goan church history, there existed the practice of bequeathing property to a person with the condition that the inheritor would offer masses for the soul of the dower. In the past people, including priests, used to will properties with the condition that masses would be said for their souls. Later on it was made a condition that such a legacy should be registered at the bishop's house, says church historian Fr Nascimento Mascarenhas. Usually the pensao (there is no proper English translation for this word except that it can be called a perpetual condition) is on a property. All over the state, there are various properties known as pensavnchem bhat. Few are willing to buy these and, claim persons who know about the issue, that fruit from trees in a property that has a pensao are not plucked but left to rot. Those who do buy such properties, make a beeline to the church to offer masses for the souls connected with the property they have bought. Sources say that some such people make it a point to give the masses not just when they first buy a property, but every year after that too. The people who enjoy such properties don't prosper. We as lawyers often ask for a certificate that states the property is without any pensao, a lawyer on condition of anonymity told TOI. There are records of such bequests, at least as far as church properties are concerned, and these can be found in the church archives in Goa and also in the rare book section of the Central Library in Panaji. Though it is not seen as a curse, people do believe that excluding their ancestors from prayers can bring harm to the family. It is just a belief of the people, asserts a senior priest from Goa. Professor at Rachol seminary Fr Victor Ferrao agrees with this. Says he, There are certain obligations that our ancestors may have assumed but not fulfilled. If those are not fulfilled then people believe there is some punishment. Another priest described this as a kind of contract between people, where something was given with the condition that the receiver would pray for the salvation of the person's soul. To those who believe in pensao, there is a simple method of warding off any untoward evil that could come their way. Offer masses for the soul of the person concerned-the previous owners of the property or even unknown persons connected with the property-to dispel any harm that could occur to the present owners or to the property. The practice exists in Goa and elsewhere too. The fruits of the mass are many. When we offer mass we believe there are multiple effects. We pray for Jesus' salvation for those who are dead, says Ferrao. There could, however, be a simple explanation to the offering of masses. The present generation is enjoying the land of their ancestors and offering masses for their souls is one way of remembering the latter. It is also an act of gratitude, said Fr Cosme Costa, of the missionaries of St Francis Xavier. It is believed that the mass offered for the soul of the person brings relief to the dead. What it certainly does is bring solace to the person offering the mass. In one way it is a psychological release, says a senior priest. Goa's best known case of pensao is that of Canon Francisco da Cunha Souto-Maior whose will forbade the sale of land he bequeathed at Caranzalem. The will had a stipulation that the land would not be sold in any manner as long as the sun and the world exist. When the land was sold to a builder, after the church obtained exemptions from the Vatican over the stipulations in the will, and the construction project faced some difficulties, it was said that the spirit of the canon was at work. On Monday and throughout the month of November, Catholics will remember the souls of their forefathers. They will do so and pray for the release of souls in purgatory and their speedy journey into heaven. http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/goa/Pensao-A-tradition-wrapped-in-myth/articleshow/5186962.cms -- DEV BOREM KORUM.
[Goanet] GOA SAT Award at the Christmas Dance
Hello everyone, Thanks to the generosity of Tony Azavedo and Alfred Braganza, the G.O.A. is proud to offer the G.O.A SAT AWARD again. This is the 13th year of this Award. It is a great incentive to our children to compete. All the 11th and 12th grade scholars are invited to apply for this annual G.O.A. S.A.T. award. It consists of $600.00 cash prize and a $70.00 plaque. As in the years past, scores will remain absolutely CONFIDENTIAL. One of the parents should be Goan. The scholar must be present to receive the award. Please submit your test scores duly countersigned by your school Counselor by December 2nd to any of these members: 1. Tony Azavedo,CPA,18021 Skypark Circle # K-2, Irvine CA 92614. 2. Alfred Braganza, 2201 Greenfield Ave., Los Angeles, CA 90064. For additional info. call: tel. 310/478 3142. 3. Ralph Figueiredo, Ex-officio Member, 2941 Ladoga Ave, Long Beach CA 90815. Thanks to everyone that sent your checks in. We've received a terrific response and filled a bunch of tables so far. Our event flyer is attached as well. We look forward to meeting all of you on the 12th. GOA Committee 310-534-0358
[Goanet] Ghanttis... on AIR FM
State-run All India Radio FM was playing this marching-song to Goan chauvinism this afternoon just before 2 pm. I wonder if anyone cares about the content about the music being played on the citizen-funded radio station! It would be interesting for someone more qualified to undertake a more detailed analysis of the lyrics of this song, but some of the lines I caught had these lines blasting ghanttis for the rise in rapes and murders in Goa. One wonders where free speech ends and hate speech begins! There was also ire directed against the Goa Medical College for offering succour to patients for beyond State borders; don't we from Goa keep visiting the Manipals, the KLESs, Narayan Hrudalays, and other out-of-state hospitals? It is a myth to believe that the GMC is free in today's patient-pays-almost-everything days, compounded by regional chauvinism. Isn't it a fact that even to claim a knee implant at the GMC one has to show years of domicile in Goa? In a state known for its large out-migration, such simplistic arguments could hit out at the so called sons of the soil themselves. It is easy to understand the sense of disempowerment that the Indian citizen feels, specially in the context of a shrinking economic pie, growing aspirations and always-wanting-moreism. But what is the approach we take? In Goa, in particular, the political and social debate in recent years has tended to scapegoat the migrant for a whole set of problems we face -- corruption, the poorly maintained civic infrastructure, changing demography, growing economic competition, conversions of our fields, decline in our agriculture, the loss of the good old Goa, changing power equations within society, the collapse of the old semi-feudal order, communalism, terrorism, communal-riots, mining and tourism's impacts on the locals, illegal mosques, Sanatan bigotry and much more. There is lot the citizen in today's Goa has reason to feel angry for. There are also persistent attempts to scapegoat migrants for all our ills, to dismiss them as ghantis, and to raise an alert that we are heading to the slummification and Bombayfication of Goa. This all is fine. My problem is that such an analysis is simplistic, and moves away from the root cause of the problem, the divisions within Goan society, the urge to migrate out of Goa in large numbers, and uncontrolled business and other lobbies (almost always, locally linked) calling the shots and deciding everything in today's Goa. At another level, if Goans want the benefits of growth, they have to pay the price too. If they want better paying jobs and expect someone else to do the 'shit work', then the necessary consequences follow. Above all, if they are not willing to question their politicians and bureaucrats (and this is not just an issue of ethnicity here either) who take anti-people, pro-profit decisions all the time, then blaming the Ghantis is going to get us nowhere! To warn about the Bombayfication of Goa is fine, but what about the many Goans who gained -- big time -- out of th eBombayficiation of Bombay? Likewise, while we would like to believe that we are the only persecuted minority around (I'm not using this term in a religious sense), the fact is that almost every other Indian state feels the same. Maharashtra has been shouting since the 1960s, never mind that the Congress leaders at times themselves built up the Shiv Sena to fight the unions. Karnataka has its own form of regionalism, now blending into communalism and Mangalore-type anti-pub-ism. The Tamils hate the imposition of Hindi from the North. Isn't the North East, Assam, Kashmir all up in arms against the 'outsider' (however these are defined)? In Orissa, the grab of local resources by Vedantas and others is resulting in and fuelling another insider-outsider clash, though it's probably just easier to blame everything on the Naxalites. Time we looked deeper at the issues involved. FN -- Frederick Noronha :: +91-832-2409490 Writing, editing, alt.publishing, photography, journalism Books from Goa: http://tiny.cc/goabooks
[Goanet] Devnagiri Konkani supporters heading for Oman for Global Goan convention
Hello my NRI brothers please check the list of participants at the Vishwa Konkani Sammelan to he held on the side lines of the Global Goan convention in Oman this week, all are sympathizers of Konkani in Devanagari script. While politicians from Salcete and Jumping Frogs with two legs, who jump where the grass is greener have been claiming to be supporters of Konkani Mai they are rendering slow death to Konknai mai in Roman script. and the majority of people fro the Oman delegation for the Global Goan convention are all Devanagari supporters and back stabber of Konkani in Roman script. Here are some of the politcally weel connected literary heroes from Goa. Mr. Yusuf A. Sheikh, Mr. Vincy Quadros, Shri. Ashok Chodankar and Mr. Tomazinho Cardozo. “Konkani does not have a script, isn’t it,” thundered, my Kerala-born photojournalist friend. I shot back saying: “the problem for the Konkani language is not having a script, but scripts? In your state Kerala people write in Malayalam script, in Karnataka they write in Kanada script, in some places in Urdu script and in Goa, the Goans are divided over the Roman and Devanagri scripts.” What is in a script some would argue, after all, the spoken word is understood by the masses. But, the script fight in Goa has threatened to divide the Goans on religious lines. Roman script is used by the catholic population in the church ceremonies and it is upper crust Hindu Brahmins who are identified in promoting the cause of Konkani in Devnagiri script in Goa. Each of the areas in Kerala, Maharashtra and Karnataka have adopted a number of words from the local language into Konkani, like Portuguese in Goa, Tulu in Mangalore, Malayalam in Kerala, Marathi in Maharashtra. As a result it sometimes become difficult for a person from one area to fully understand the language. This has been creating a major stumbling block which has hit the Konkani-speaking people for many years or even decades. But not in Qatar, in the Persian Gulf. As the battle of scripts rages on in Goa, a Goenkar priest Gasper Fernandes has brought together people from the entire Konkani speaking region based in Qatar under one banner for church activities. Kudos to him. But teetering problems continue, which happens, as and when, people as diverse as from the entire region, with different scripts come together for a common good of the Konkani language. A truce is on, as one does not want to ruffle the steady boat. A ship which has been steadied by the people in it, who, are committed to developing and cementing new bonds of friendship in the name of religion. Some may not understand some of the Konkani words ready out by a Mangalorean reader in church services conducted by the so-called “Konkani-speaking group of Qatar” but they bear the pain in the name of God. If in Goa my friend Minguel Braganza has raised objections to the church afflicted associations using the medium of wine to attract crowds to raise funds for church development , in Persian Gulf countries the dine and dance programme has raked in huge donations for the church. But the churches in GCC countries conducting religious activities in Konkani have another problem. Call it a generation problem. The threat to Konkani in GCC countries arise from the Roman script supporters. The younger generation are all shunning away from speaking or learning the language, and here, the threat of the real danger lies. And the lack of interest in konkani is not confined to the Gulf but also in Canada as veteran journalist Eugene Correia writing on www.radiogoa.net says: “Canadian Goans, especially the first generation, have done extremely well in keeping the culture alive through organizing festivals, events and through participation in mainstream functions. The effort of the Goan Overseas Association (GOA) to have Konkani classes proved a failure in its first attempt. The government funds had to be returned for not meeting the required number of attendants at the classes. Though I am not sure if the second attempt was through GOA but, I believe, a handful of Goans, mostly adults, attended the few classes held. An enthusiastic initiative by a Goan teacher of first running some mandatory Konkani classes for Goan children with the ultimate aim to include the language into the Toronto Catholic school system met with no success.” “The lessons learnt from these experiments were that the youth, young adults and children are content with what they are in Canada. They have successfully assimilated into the mainstream society. For them, doing the folk dances at events is more than enough.” I came across this suggestion on the Goanet regarding Konkani: “In modern times we must particularly pay attention to the youth. Now-a-days, the youths have become computer-savvy. We must use the computer and the internet to propagate our language. One simple method is to post difficult words one by one, giving details along with it, like
[Goanet] What is a khandi
Albert replies :- When someone says the field is five khandis it means that five khandies worth of seeds have to be sown in that field. _ New Windows 7: Simplify what you do everyday. Find the right PC for you. http://windows.microsoft.com/shop
[Goanet] ALEXYZ Daily Cartoon (1Nov09)
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[Goanet] WHAT IS A 'KHANDI'
FN, It is a quite valied question. The output, if in terms of 'khandi' it is paddy not rice. If the output is termed in 'mura or muDo', as we call it down south, it is rice output. However, the output from each field will depend on several criteria, that will take a volume to descirbe. If I find relative information, will be glad to share. MD Date: Sun, 1 Nov 2009 14:17:18 +0530 From: Frederick Noronha fredericknoro...@gmail.com To: Goa's premiere mailing list, estb. 1994! goanet@lists.goanet.org Subject: Re: [Goanet] What is a khandi Message-ID: 11a806d20911010147w183d7d30ya2b8a7935d2bb...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Thanks a lot MD. That was very precise! 2009/11/1 MD mmdme...@gmail.com 'Khandi' is part of former weights and measurements. One 'khandi' is equal to 220.32 kgs If you don't mind me asking another (potentially silly) question: when someone says, 'That is a five-khandi field' do they mean the field yields five khandis of paddy? Or rice? Just curious... Very tough to get references to such information online and even in the printed world perhaps. FN
[Goanet] Selma Carvalho: Who the Bleep cares about love in a time of cholera?
Headline: Who the Bleep cares about love in a time of cholera? By: Selma Carvalho Source: Goan Voice Daily Newsletter 2 Nov. 2009 at www.goanvoice.org.uk Full text: A typical Goan beauty is tall but not tall enough to threaten the man. She has a fair complexion, thick, cascading hair falling from the parting in the middle with a purplish shine, either natural or acquired through the rigorous application of hair-oil, and a longish nose, not beakish but straight and prominent to bear testimony that the wearer is of Aryan descent. Maria Rita Agoustina Santimano, my maternal grandmother, was none of these things. She was smallish, dusky but she had a certain sensuality about her and her body in her younger days must have been described as voluptuous by the men of her time. Did the women in those days ever truly have a say in their love lives or were they property to be negotiated over? She came from a family of some wealth, her father owed large tracts of beachside property in Colva and by the time she was 16 her marriage to a man of 38 had been negotiated. She knew nothing about this man, except that he had worked for over 10 years in Kenya, Africa and that he too like her was of the Chardo caste, a consideration of the utmost importance in those days. On her wedding day she wore the wedding dress du jour, a white kapod with a vole over her head. She was the last generation in my family to wear the traditional dress. My grandfather never returned to Africa after the wedding instead he took up a job in Poona, working as a clerk for a British military stores. Here he toiled away for 20 years in a job that no way rendered him prosperous and in the intervening years, despite the long periods of separation from his wife who remained in Goa, he sired three children. Of the relationship between my grandmother and my grandfather I know little about. Their own children seem unable to piece together any tangible evidence of a relationship between them. Were there picnics they went on? Were there places they visited together? Did the women of those days ever enjoy great romances or was their prime responsibility to produce children and get on with the business of raising families? It was the norm in those days to marry men much older than themselves, which might have assured them of some material security but what sort of dynamics did it create in a relationship with men who were twice their age? My grandfather was a man of some learning. He had worked in a far-away country and this gave him a broader perspective on life than what the sheltered life of a parochial village in the South of Goa might have given my grandmother. They might have been intellectual misfits but I doubt such thoughts went into defining relationships. Relationships were defined by caste, how well one fitted into the family, how well one managed the household and the fields at harvest time and most of all they revolved around the children. Despite the utilitarian nature of relationships, it is impossible for me to think of my grandmother as being devoid of sexuality. I remember her in the prime of her life singing bawdy mandos and limericks which are so much a part of the fabric of life in Salcete Goa, where men and women join in at weddings and festa to sing of lust and love. I believe women of her time were very aware of their passionate, earthy side as much as their latter-day counterparts. In any case, by the time my grandmother was in her late forties, it was all over. My grandfather died of a heart-attack. By then she had already become a grandmother and assumed a new role. In the last few years of her life, she suffered the most pitiable memory loss. There were days when she couldn't remember if she had ever been married or if she had had children. My mother had shifted her from her ancestral house to our house. No matter what she eventually forgot, no matter what her memory was willing to let go of in its battle with Alzheimer's, she never forgot her ancestral house, the household she had managed with an iron fist all these years. Till her dying day, she begged us to take her back. The house and the life it unravelled became the very embodiment of who she was as a human being. On another note, this week marks 52 columns. Yes, a year has merrily passed by since I started writing for GoanVoice. I want to thank you for your support and the warm and fuzzy letters you send me each week, they mean a lot to me. Viva Goa. Do leave your feedback at carvalho_...@yahoo.com
Re: [Goanet] Ranking of Countries
It appears that rankings ( 1-12) are inversely related to the diversity of their population. Homogeneity of the populace - others would call it white bread - makes for much happiness and contentment, apparently. I. Nunes --- On Sun, 11/1/09, Gilbert Lawrence gilbert2...@yahoo.com wrote: From: Gilbert Lawrence gilbert2...@yahoo.com Subject: [Goanet] Ranking of Countries To: goa...@goanet.org Date: Sunday, November 1, 2009, 4:49 AM Countries Ranking Based on Health, Wealth, Prosperity, DEMOCRACY in the Country, FREEDOM of EXPRESSION. Happiness and Quality of Life. # 1. Finland. # 2. Switzerland. # 3. Sweden. # 4. Denmark. # 5. Norway. # 6. Australia. # 7. Canada. # 8. Netherland. # 9. USA. #10. New Zealand. # 11. Ireland. # 12. UK. # 45. India. # 95. Kenya. # 97 Tanzania. # 99. Pakistan. The Last # 124. Ethiopia. Want Prosperity? Index Ranks Finland as Place to Be # 1. Tue Oct 27, 2009 11:42am IST
[Goanet] Talking Photos: Ukolo Konngam, Konngio, Karande ani Chirco
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Re: [Goanet] Ghanttis... on AIR FM
To warn about the Bombayfication of Goa is fine, but what about the many Goans who gained -- big time -- out of th eBombayficiation of Bombay? I almost agree with my friend Frederick but I would like to ask him to quote the comparative figures when he says that many Goans gained. It really beats me why people cannot understand that the issue is not of ghanttis but of how many of them, in other words of percentages. Please put the issue in right perspective as some others had done earlier. R. Cabral
[Goanet] Jazz Goa launches music video
Jazz Goa, an organisation setup by musicians and music enthusiasts in Goa, anounces the launch of it's first music video titled 'Spellboiund'. You can watch the video on utube here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YI1vA_QTrJQ Jazz Goa's primary goal is to create a platform to promote Goa's immense music talent. Artistes who lack the finance to record their own music can get in touch with Jazz Goa through the website www.jazzgoa.com Deserving artistes will be recorded, filmed and promoted by Jazz Goa absolutely free of cost.
[Goanet] CCP to restore Pangim garden
Hi JC, How was your meeting with Agnelo? Besides, you are welcome to visit the 'dictatorship'. Recently the chinese voted a Goan into power in the 29 seat assembly. A few days ago I am told by Goans that some mannas visited Macau and found no dictator ship but a safe ship. With all the dosh you earn a trip to Macau would be worthwhile. BC Baba Bernado, I agree with you. Living under dictatorship all your life apparently has assisted you in your thought process. I suggest that you, however, applaud a good deed when one is done. jc
[Goanet] Pensao: A tradition wrapped in myth
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*Sun Nov 1 14:06:26 PST 2009*
Pensao: A tradition wrapped in mythTNN 2 November 2009, 01:41am IST On
Monday, as Catholics observe All Soul's Day and make their annual visitto
cemeteries, many will be regretting having forgotten to offer a mass forthe
eternal repose of their ancestor's souls. That is something most
GoanCatholics unfailingly do every year. Many even offer masses for the
reposeof souls of people who have never been associated with the family.
For in the hoary corridors of Goan church history, there existed thepractice
of bequeathing property to a person with the condition that theinheritor
would offer masses for the soul of the dower.
In the past people, including priests, used to will properties with
thecondition that masses would be said for their souls. Later on it was made
acondition that such a legacy should be registered at the bishop's
house,says church historian Fr Nascimento Mascarenhas.
Usually the pensao (there is no proper English translation for this
wordexcept that it can be called a perpetual condition) is on a property.
Allover the state, there are various properties known as pensavnchem bhat.
Few are willing to buy these and, claim persons who know about the
issue,that fruit from trees in a property that has a pensao are not plucked
butleft to rot.
Joao observes: Good idea! The properties can be used for the good of the
community. It should not be sold and rotting fruit cannot become the
argument for the sale of the property. The local Church, as is written below
in the article, in one case got exemptions for the property from the
Vatican so that it could be sold! The Popes through history have been
playing politics with spirituality. How much did they make? Will it help the
Pope to evade hell where he deserves to ?
Those who do buy such properties, make a beeline to the church to
offermasses for the souls connected with the property they have bought.
Sourcessay that some such people make it a point to give the masses not just
whenthey first buy a property, but every year after that too.
Joao observes: What fun! Why can't they simply enjoy the property? After
all, they have the Church and God presumably on their side?
The people who enjoy such properties don't prosper. We as lawyers often
askfor a certificate that states the property is without any pensao, a
lawyeron condition of anonymity told TOI.
Joao observes: Nice, as lawyers are the best people to take care of
spiritual matters. Forgive me for thinking lawyers were the best friends of
priests.
There are records of such bequests, at least as far as church properties
areconcerned, and these can be found in the church archives in Goa and also
inthe rare book section of the Central Library in Panaji.
Joao observes: As a public service the Church might want to explain to the
laity why the properties were sold in the first place? Can people who don't
own property also manage to negotiate with God through the good connections
of the Church?
Though it is not seen as a curse, people do believe that excluding
theirancestors from prayers can bring harm to the family. It is just a
belief ofthe people, asserts a senior priest from Goa.
Professor at Rachol seminary Fr Victor Ferrao agrees with this. Says
he,There are certain obligations that our ancestors may have assumed but
notfulfilled. If those are not fulfilled then people believe there is
somepunishment.Another priest described this as a kind of contract between
people, wheresomething was given with the condition that the receiver would
pray for thesalvation of the person's soul.
Joao observes: Pray or pay for the soul?
To those who believe in pensao, there is a simple method of warding off
anyuntoward evil that could come their way. Offer masses for the soul of
theperson concerned-the previous owners of the property or even unknown
personsconnected with the property-to dispel any harm that could occur to
thepresent owners or to the property. The practice exists in Goa and
elsewhere too.
Joao observes: When the Church is the seller of the property then what
happens?
The fruits of the mass are many. When we offer mass we believe there
aremultiple effects. We pray for Jesus' salvation for those who are dead,
saysFerrao.
There could, however, be a simple explanation to the offering of masses.
The present generation is enjoying the land of their ancestors and
offeringmasses for their souls is one way of remembering the latter. It is
also anact of gratitude, said Fr Cosme Costa, of the missionaries of St
[Goanet] Digitization of records work given to a Pune company
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/goa/Digitization-of-records-to-benefit-public-Salkar/articleshow/5186972.cms Digitization of records to benefit public : Salkar The special software has been prepared by a Pune-based company and has five modules comprising civil registration of marriages; sub-registration of documents such as sale deeds, gift deeds or any transaction pertaining to immoveable property; notarial functions; registration of forms such as partnership forms; and registration of societies. Computerization will definitely help us provide prompt services to the public, Salkar said. - comments : Why a Pune company? There are a number of companies in Goa who can do this. Giving it to Goan companies would give valuable jobs to Goans. samir
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[Goanet] Ghantiis on FM Radio
Isn't it true that Goans pay for Manipals etc. Correct me if I am wrong. For knee implants I heard they go to Chor Bazzar. BC There was also ire directed against the Goa Medical College for offering succour to patients for beyond State borders; don't we from Goa keep visiting the Manipals, the KLESs, Narayan Hrudalays, and other out-of-state hospitals? It is a myth to believe that the GMC is free in today's patient-pays-almost-everything days, compounded by regional chauvinism. Isn't it a fact that even to claim a knee implant at the GMC one has to show years of domicile in Goa?
Re: [Goanet] Let us pray
Prayer (of any religion, every religion!) could well be a low-cost, less-stressful option to medical practitioners: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/03/23/AR2006032302177.html Looks like we still need a lot of it in Goa, despite the high medicos-per-capita ratio :-) FN PS: Even the Sanatanis were were spiritual, before they turned rabidly communal! 2009/11/2 eric pinto ericpin...@yahoo.com Have you ever considered consulting a medical practitioner ? ! eric. Albert writes:- Who will know about heaven, God, and souls better ? the one who has come from there or the one who is imagining things to be ? while on one hand Jesus... -- Frederick Noronha :: +91-832-2409490 Writing, editing, alt.publishing, photography, journalism Books from Goa: http://tiny.cc/goabooks
