[Goanet-News] Goanet Reader: Just Loving Life: The Spirit That's Uniquely Anglo-Indian (SAR News)
Just Loving Life: The Spirit That's Uniquely Anglo-Indian By SAR NEWS BANGALORE, Karnataka (SAR NEWS) -- There were fears among the Anglo-Indians in India that the federal government would remove the constitutional privileges and the minority status for the community as enshrined in the Constitution. This year, however, the privileges and the status were renewed for another 10 years. SAR News brings you an article by Beverly Pearson that condenses the 300-year history of the Anglo-Indian community into a perfect script for a 10-minute speech. -- The British Empire once held absolute power in over 52 countries. About two-fifths of the world. But there was only one jewel in the crown -- India. The first European settlers in India were the Portuguese in 1498, about 100 years before the British. The Dutch, the French and the British followed. They were all here for the duration on. The inevitable happened and a new mixed race community emerged. Even though the British came in peacefully as merchants and traders, they soon colonised the subcontinent of India. But the British needed allies to protect the jewel in the crown and so began a deliberate policy encouraging British males to marry Indian women to create the first Anglo-Indians. The East India Company paid 15 silver rupees for each child born to an Indian mother and a European father, as family allowance. These children were amalgamated into the growing Anglo-Indian community, forming a defensive structure for the British Raj. This was a deliberate act of self-preservation by the English. This unique hybrid individual was ethnically engineered by the occupying British, so much so that the Anglo-Indians were the only micro-minority community ever defined in a country's Constitution. Article 366 of the Indian Constitution states: An Anglo-Indian means a person whose father or any of whose male ancestors in the male line is or was of European descent but who is domiciled within the territory of India and is or was born within such territory of parents habitually resident there-in and not established there for temporary purposes only. So you can see we were intended to be a permanent micro-minority. In 1830, British Parliament described the Anglo-Indian as those who have been English educated, are entirely European in their habits and feelings, dress and language. They were more Anglo than Indian. Their mother tongue was English, they were Catholic or Anglican, and their customs and traditions were English. While most of them married within their own circle, many continued to marry expatriate Englishmen. Very few married Indians. Without Anglo-Indian support British rule would have collapsed. Railways: We ran the railways, post and telegraph, police and customs, education, export and import, shipping, tea, coffee and tobacco plantations, the coal and gold fields. We became teachers, nurses, priests and doctors. If it had any value, the British made sure we ran it. And when it came to secretarial duties, no one could touch our Anglo-Indian girls -- the best stenographers in the world and with a beauty to match. Were we favoured? Yes, the English trusted us. After all, we were related by blood. We worked hard. We became indispensable. We lived comfortably and were protected by the British Raj. Like the British, we had servants to do all our domestic work. The average Anglo-Indian home could afford at least three full-time servants -- a cook, a bearer and the indispensable nanny (ayah). Part-time servants included a gardener, a cleaner and a laundry man (dhobi). Of course, we learned to speak Hindi to be able to argue, give orders, bargain, accuse and terminate employment and throw in a dozen Hindi expletives. Imagine our horror when we were later to migrate to England, Canada and Australia and we no longer had servants to do our domestic chores. Who can remember looking at our first toilet brush and asking what do we do with this? We had to learn to cook, clean, garden, do the laundry and take the garbage out and look after the kids. Christmas cake: The tradition of making your own Christmas cake was a sacred Anglo-Indian custom. Each family had a secret cake recipe, handed down from our grandparents. About a week before Christmas, the local baker was contacted. He would turn up to your home with two very large terracotta bowls that looked more like satellite dishes. One for the egg whites and one for mixing. Mum would dish out the ingredients. This was all mixed together under her watchful eye and distributed in to about dozen or so cake tins and labelled with your name on it. This labelling was all important. We did not want him to return that evening with someone else's cake recipe. Heaven forbid. Music and dance: Music, movies and socialising were high on the agenda. We loved a dance. Afternoon
[Goanet-News] GOA VELHA-DEC 3: Konkani Rocks ... Konkani Jazz, Konkani Folk, Konkani Rock, Konkani Pop (from Armando Gonsalves)
Konkani Rocks Konkani Jazz, Konkani Folk, Konkani Rock, Konkani Pop Host: The Heritage Jazz yatra Type: Music/arts - Concert Network:Global Date: Thursday, 03 December 2009 Time: 18:30 - 22:00 Location: Goa Velha Church Grounds Description Goa has always been know as Rome of the East. However, there is so much to Goa, and its been a wonder that no other world city has called itself the Goa of the west, and it is time to change that! With so much happening for, and in Goa, it is one of the most exciting places in the world today and it is a fact that Goa has found its rightful place in the Sun. So, is it not to time shout from the rooftop about Goa’s pedigree? Our last year’s Jazz for Peace show was a stunning success, and the icon who made it happen was Saskia Laroo, the magical trumpeter from Netherlands who will be with us this December. Saskia will fuse Konkani music in a jazz rock format and her band will perform popular Konkani music in thus creating an international fusion that will excite the grassroots. Besides, Konkani music is going to be honored by the virtuoso violin player, violin chakaravarthy gold medal winner S. Harikumar from Kerala who will perform with Sonia Shirsat as well as Saskia Laroo Band. Harikumar is one if the most exciting violinist in the country today. Additionally, India’s top lead guitarist and composer Amit Heri will also participate in honoring the language that we hold so dear to our hearts. All in all it is a show of grand proportion considering that musicians from all over the world will perform in salute to our mother tongue. The church of Goa Velha led by parish priest Fr. Raul Colaco he is all excited about this grand event which will also commemorate 140 years of the church. Elaborate arrangements are being done to light up the church in grand style in true heritage jazz and Armando Gonsalves style. To make things even more exciting, we have spoken to leading Goan local bands who will perform local Konkani music in their own style thus bringing about a further fusion of bringing international as well as local musicians under one programme. These include 1. The stunning diva Sonia Shirsat along with her five piece ensemble 2. Sigmund de Souza along with Carlos Gonsalves on percussion, Rocky Lazarus on bass and others The venue for the Goa Velha show is near the majestic church St. Andrews -- typical of Goa, full of charm, coziness and camaraderie. After all, what are we working towards? This event is about the heartbeat of Goa, the music that unites the exciting people of Goa. http://www.facebook.com/event.php?eid=184249777454 Contact: armando...@yahoo.co.in -- Frederick Noronha :: +91-832-2409490 Writing, editing, alt.publishing, photography, journalism ANOTHER GOA: http://tiny.cc/anothergoa
[Goanet] dubai crisis
Dubai debacle likely to hit workers, remittances Despite the brave front put up by Indian government, the debt crisis that has enveloped Dubai World threatens to hit the struggling Indian Twitterhttp://twitterapps.indiatimes.com/feedtweet/tweet?link=http://www1.timesofindia.indiatimes.com/biz/india-business/Dubai-debacle-likely-to-hit-workers-remittances/articleshow/5277072.cmstitle=Dubai%20debacle%20likely%20to%20hit%20workers,%20remittances%20-%20India%20Business%20-%20Biz%20-%20The%20Times%20of%20India Facebook javascript:addto(2);Share javascript:void(0)Emailjavascript:openWindowmail(/mail/5277072.cms) Printhttp://www1.timesofindia.indiatimes.com/articleshow/msid-5277072,prtpage-1.cms Save javascript:showdivlayer(5277072,b,close);Commenthttp://www1.timesofindia.indiatimes.com/biz/india-business/Dubai-debacle-likely-to-hit-workers-remittances/articleshow/5277072.cms#writeoverseas labour market that is largely dependent on short-term Middle East job contracts. The latest crisis comes at a time when official estimates have admitted that unemployment rates have spiralled to 30% in the Middle East in the last one year. Industry sources say unemployment figures could be higher than the official estimates and that remittances to India - $43.5 billion in 2007-2008 - are certain to be much lower this year in the wake of the continuing recession in the region. The Dubai World's debt just adds to the bad news. UAE is the favourite destination for a maximum number of overseas Indian workers - 3.4 lakh people went to the country in 2008 - but the number has been fast declining as Indian workers are unable to get new contracts or extensions in the country that's in the grip of recession. It's well known that when Dubai sneezes, south India, especially Kerala, catches more than just a cold. Last September, when Lehman Brothers collapsed triggering the great recession, the arrivals at Chennai, Hyderabad and Thiruvananthapuram airports wore a grim look. The news of Dubai World's inability to repay the $59 billion debt has triggered similar fears among the relatives of immigrants back home. However, the minister for Overseas Indian Affairs tried to allay such fears. ``There were some concerns during the beginning of the slowdown an year ago, but now we are not expecting any exodus (return) of Indians and India will not be affected by Dubai's debts,'' Vayalar Ravi told TOI on telephone. OIA secretary K Mohandas added that large scale retrenchment was unlikely even though labour movement to UAE had come down. ``There are some countries like Saudi Arabia where labour movement has increased,'' he said adding, however, that the increase was negligible. However, the government of Kerala, where overseas remittances contribute 20% of the state GDP, does not sound too optimistic. ``We do not yet know the magnitude of the crisis. On the face of it, the problem looks serious. Now we will have to wait and see its impact on other sectors, and whether there will be a credit freeze,'' Kerala finance minister T M Thomas Isaac told TOI. ``If it (Dubai debt crisis) affects the real estate sector, we have enough reasons to be worried. Only after the (Id) holidays are over in the Gulf, we will come to know more,'' Isaac said. Over 5 lakh Indians have returned from Dubai since September 2008, of which two lakh are Malayalees. Almost 60% of these people are technical or non-technical skills professionals. ``Over 50 lakh Indians work in the Middle East of which 20 lakh are from Kerala. We do not expect large number of returnees now,'' K V Mohankumar, CEO of Kerala NRI group, Non Resident Keralites' Affairs (Norka). According to Norka, 10 lakh Malayalees live and work in Dubai, along with 4 lakh people from Andhra Pradesh and and 4.5 lakh Tamils. The situation in the past year has prompted the OIA ministry to introduce a welfare fund for emigrants in distress. Services like a toll-free helpline, a counselling facility and a facility to extend contingency based legal, medical and emergency relief assistance are on the anvil to provide a safety net to a large and vulnerable work force in the region. The minister has also announced setting up of an Indian Workers Resource Centre (IWRC) in the region and a ``Return and Resettlement Fund'' that will provide for a contribution-based scheme to incentivize the return and resettlement of overseas workers. Details of the proposal are being worked out. However, bankers here are not losing sleep over the Dubai World crisis, yet. ``The original impact of the Dubai crisis has already happened. I do not see any further impact coming in,'' said Venugopalan M, managing director CEO, Federal Bank. ``I don't see any further reduction in remittances as well.'' The news of Dubai rescheduling its debts fails to surprise some. Jinu Rani George, a senior official with a builder group that has considerable interests in Dubai, said it was expected. ``We are in Dubai for 27 years now. But from
[Goanet] Goanet Reader: Just Loving Life: The Spirit That's Uniquely Anglo-Indian (SAR News)
Just Loving Life: The Spirit That's Uniquely Anglo-Indian By SAR NEWS BANGALORE, Karnataka (SAR NEWS) -- There were fears among the Anglo-Indians in India that the federal government would remove the constitutional privileges and the minority status for the community as enshrined in the Constitution. This year, however, the privileges and the status were renewed for another 10 years. SAR News brings you an article by Beverly Pearson that condenses the 300-year history of the Anglo-Indian community into a perfect script for a 10-minute speech. -- The British Empire once held absolute power in over 52 countries. About two-fifths of the world. But there was only one jewel in the crown -- India. The first European settlers in India were the Portuguese in 1498, about 100 years before the British. The Dutch, the French and the British followed. They were all here for the duration on. The inevitable happened and a new mixed race community emerged. Even though the British came in peacefully as merchants and traders, they soon colonised the subcontinent of India. But the British needed allies to protect the jewel in the crown and so began a deliberate policy encouraging British males to marry Indian women to create the first Anglo-Indians. The East India Company paid 15 silver rupees for each child born to an Indian mother and a European father, as family allowance. These children were amalgamated into the growing Anglo-Indian community, forming a defensive structure for the British Raj. This was a deliberate act of self-preservation by the English. This unique hybrid individual was ethnically engineered by the occupying British, so much so that the Anglo-Indians were the only micro-minority community ever defined in a country's Constitution. Article 366 of the Indian Constitution states: An Anglo-Indian means a person whose father or any of whose male ancestors in the male line is or was of European descent but who is domiciled within the territory of India and is or was born within such territory of parents habitually resident there-in and not established there for temporary purposes only. So you can see we were intended to be a permanent micro-minority. In 1830, British Parliament described the Anglo-Indian as those who have been English educated, are entirely European in their habits and feelings, dress and language. They were more Anglo than Indian. Their mother tongue was English, they were Catholic or Anglican, and their customs and traditions were English. While most of them married within their own circle, many continued to marry expatriate Englishmen. Very few married Indians. Without Anglo-Indian support British rule would have collapsed. Railways: We ran the railways, post and telegraph, police and customs, education, export and import, shipping, tea, coffee and tobacco plantations, the coal and gold fields. We became teachers, nurses, priests and doctors. If it had any value, the British made sure we ran it. And when it came to secretarial duties, no one could touch our Anglo-Indian girls -- the best stenographers in the world and with a beauty to match. Were we favoured? Yes, the English trusted us. After all, we were related by blood. We worked hard. We became indispensable. We lived comfortably and were protected by the British Raj. Like the British, we had servants to do all our domestic work. The average Anglo-Indian home could afford at least three full-time servants -- a cook, a bearer and the indispensable nanny (ayah). Part-time servants included a gardener, a cleaner and a laundry man (dhobi). Of course, we learned to speak Hindi to be able to argue, give orders, bargain, accuse and terminate employment and throw in a dozen Hindi expletives. Imagine our horror when we were later to migrate to England, Canada and Australia and we no longer had servants to do our domestic chores. Who can remember looking at our first toilet brush and asking what do we do with this? We had to learn to cook, clean, garden, do the laundry and take the garbage out and look after the kids. Christmas cake: The tradition of making your own Christmas cake was a sacred Anglo-Indian custom. Each family had a secret cake recipe, handed down from our grandparents. About a week before Christmas, the local baker was contacted. He would turn up to your home with two very large terracotta bowls that looked more like satellite dishes. One for the egg whites and one for mixing. Mum would dish out the ingredients. This was all mixed together under her watchful eye and distributed in to about dozen or so cake tins and labelled with your name on it. This labelling was all important. We did not want him to return that evening with someone else's cake recipe. Heaven forbid. Music and dance: Music, movies and socialising were high on the agenda. We loved a dance. Afternoon
[Goanet] NEWS FLASH - TRAGEDY AVERTED at HP - Petrol Pump in Margao
A major tragedy was averted when a generator caught fire in the premises of the Bharat Petroleum - M/s Virginkar's owned petrol pump in the heart of the city of Margao exactly 1745 hrs today . According to the pump attendants on duty who spoke to this writer in situ they noticed fumes followed by a slight flare. The Fire Brigade station located just behind the Petrol pump adjoining the South Goa Police Headquarter Margao and the traffic police played a timely role in averting a panic as the vehicle owners ran off the scene. The news of the fire spread and there was an apparent panic but the situation was well under control. Traffic movement was efficiently manned by Traffic Police PI Mr Shirwaiker and the fire doused out. The adjoining Hindustan Petroleum - M/s Kavlekar owned petrol pump closed operations and ensured that the petrol tanks were sealed. Presently sale of petrol has been temporarily stopped until the fire embers are doused off effectively. Unfortunately the fire hydrants were not easily available, in the office and this could have proved tragic. According to one of the attendants who spoke to this writer at the site none of them are trained in preliminary fire fighting works and hence they had to depend on the fire brigade. It may be recalled that the Margao Municipal Council has since the early 1990's been hankering over shifting the petrol pumps four in all from the heart of the city what is prominently known as the George Barretto square. In fact following the fire at an oil terminal in the north Indian state of Rajasthan which lasted for well over a week the Disaster Management team headed by the District Magistrate South Goa District Mr G P Naik had taken the issue seriously and demanded the immediate relocation of these pumps. However the political will is lacking according to ex councillor Ms Auda Viegas a woman activist who spoke to this writer. She said there were several resolutions passed to move these pumps but to no avail, instead they have restructed several of them making light of the public demand and the Municipal Council resolutions . Hopefully the present fire could serve as a precursor to enusre their shifting which will also result in clearing the traffic snarls in the heart of the city. The present councillor of the ward Mr Fondekar was not available for comment at the time of filing this report. Incidentally some of them owe arrears in lacs to the Margao Municipal Council and they have been in the last fortnight given an ultimatum to cough up the amount or face conswquences like sealing of the pumps. Today being Eid-uz-Zuha or Baqr-Eid a public holiday there except for holiday crowd in the Aga Khan Garden /Margao Municipal Garden and the pre-advent shoppers mainly women and children this weekend Saturday would have turned chaotic if the situation was out of hand. GODFREY J. I. GONSALVES, BORDA, MARGAO, 403 602, GOA. (INDIA) +91 98221 58584 (24 HRS) gonsalvesgodfre...@yahoo.co.in The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Yahoo! Homepage. http://in.yahoo.com/
[Goanet] Finding old school friends............
Me thinks that Bosco is right and the gentleman is trying to contact old school friends from SJCS (St Josephs Convent School, Zanzibar) since he is alluding to the Revolution which took place in late 1963. The Saint Josephs Convent School, Zanzibar ex students have a very active forum. I tried to reply directly to this gentleman but my message bounced because he has a screening device. Merwyn Lobo I am sure can help this gentleman. Vivian A. D'Souza
Re: [Goanet] Who is a Panch?
Party politics will only make a bad situation worse. Hello Joao Barros-Pereira. It depends on what party it is and what that party's ideology and politics is all about. Except for the above, we fully agree with you. However, unless and until villages fight panchayat elections on 'pannel' basis (as proposed by us) with a complete 'village development' manifesto which the pannellist panch candidate must agree and underwrite, panchayats and gram sabhas will always be at logger heads with each other with the MLAs and Ministers calling the shots mostly against the people and villages. Please remember that: 'without a political party, there is no government or governance. 'without a good political party, there is no good government or good governance' 'Politcs need not be dirty, always. It can also be clean' 'That is - 'if the village people want it that way'. 'If not -there is no hope in high heavens' and all will be lost to the rat race of making money from offices of profit'. Cheers floriano goasuraj 9890470896 www.goasu-raj.org Join Goa Su-Raj Party today to see good governance ruled Goa tomorrow. - Original Message - From: Joao Barros-Pereira joaobarrospere...@gmail.com To: goanet goa...@goanet.org Sent: Saturday, November 28, 2009 11:15 AM Subject: [Goanet] Who is a Panch? Who is a Panch? Is a panch a dictator or a representative of the people? Once elected, does a panch have a right - legal or moral - to do anything, including acting against the interests of the villagers and the people who have elected him? For this reason, it is best the builders of a grassroots democracy are the villagers themselves. [Party politics will only make a bad situation worse]. Whatever we do or do not do we should not fail to recognize this simple fact: We are the village!
[Goanet] G.O.A's SFX Feast, Toronto/Konkani SongBook
Re. the many enquiries - if you are in Toronto: The Greatest Konkani Hits SongBook will be available this coming Sunday 29 Nov. at the G.O.A.'s St. Francis Xavier's Feast - from 1 pm, at the Payal Banquet Hall, 3410 Semenyk Court, Mississauga. Author signing/launch. New edition. The first print run sold out in 3 months. First come, first served basis - a great Christmas gift! http://www.konkanisongbook.com/ _ Windows Live: Friends get your Flickr, Yelp, and Digg updates when they e-mail you. http://go.microsoft.com/?linkid=9691817
[Goanet] Hindi scholars launch Jesuit linguist's birth centenary
http://www.ucanews.com/2009/09/08/hindi-scholars-launch-jesuit-linguists-birth-centenary/
[Goanet] West Bengal offers land to AIFF for football academy
WHEN TWO GOANS FIHGTS, A NON-GOAN BENFITS-- HERE IS A PERFECT EXAMPLE Cuncolim and goa's loss was West Bengal's gain thanks to Micky pachecho's and joaquim Alemao's fued and corrupt politicians from Cuncolim like Ramesh Dessai NEW DELHI: The West Bengal government has offered land and infrastructural support to the All India Football Federation (AIFF) to build a state of the art academy in Burdwan. The government has proposed 17 acres of land for the academy, which will also get technical support from German giants Bayern Munich. In fact, the West Bengal government had signed a Memorandum of Understanding with Bayern in 2007. The state government initially was looking to set up the academy in collaboration with a corporate but now has offered the project to the AIFF. The national federation's ambitious plan to build a Rs.1 billion academy in Goa in association with telecom major Bharti has been put on hold due a tussle between two powerful ministers in Goa government. AIFF vice-president Subrata Dutta said Wednesday that to look into the nitty-gritty of the West Bengal government's proposal, a four-member committee has been formed and they will inspect the site in Burdwan, Thursday. It is a 17 acres of land and we hope that we will get all support from the state government. They have promised to give us all the infrastructural support and Bayern Munich will provide us the technical support, Dutta said. After inspecting the site we will submit our report to the executive committee, he added. Dutta also said that West Bengal government has agreed to increase the area of land if needed. The site is adjacent to the Sports Authority of India (SAI) complex and if needed we can also use the facilities there as well, said Dutta. He also said that Kalyani, which is around 50 km from Kolkata, has offered training facilities for the national team. Today we inspected the training facilities in Kalyani. The local administration has offered a good stadium and residential facilities for the team, he said.
[Goanet] Fw: NYTimes.com: Some Indians Find It Tough to Go Home Again
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[Goanet] *Subject: Anti-Goan Chicalim VP defends mega project at Alto-Dabolim*
Dear Arwin, You've said this very well. The damage that is being done by mega projects are going to destroy all the Goan villages and the Goan way of life and there will be no turning back. Unfortunately we know who are the people supporting and sanctioning these anti-people and anti-Goan projects. They do it after receiving massive kick-backs and bribes and that's why these politicans and their supporters at the Panchayat level are backing these anti-Goan projects and betraying us Goans. They don't even care as they are blinded by their insatiable greed. It's time for us to speak out against these project and preserve our Goan villages as the Government and these politicians are ready to break each and every rule in the book. Is there any group or Organization on this forum that will help to rally and support our Goan villages and our Goan brothers and sisters? Intimidation and harrassment has become the order of the day to silence the voice of the Goan people. Our Goan people should form a unified effort to stand up and have their voices be heard. Just like Sebastian Rodrigues through GAKUVED and his support for anti-mining efforts we need to have a unified effort for Goans in all villages of Goa to stand up against this tyranny and greed and the destruction of our Goan villages brought about by these mega-projects. *Subject: Anti-Goan Chicalim VP defends mega project at Alto-Dabolim* As reported recently in the press, the Chicalim VP is defending the mega project at Alto-Dabolim. Goans must take strong objections and oppose the Anti-Goan Chicalim VP. The GBA the Chicalim Village Action Committee (CVAC) needs our support/voice, to stop another monstrosity coming up in Goa. It is surely disturbing to note that Sarpanch, The Former Sarpanch and their corrupt colleagues are ignorant of the negative effects of these approx 600 residential units, on the area!! They claim that people opposing the project are fighting for their self interests; I am sure that many Goans will agree with me when I say that, actually these Anti-Goans themselves. Have bigger financial/commercial stakes in supporting this destructive project!! The Sarpanch claims that it is for the betterment of the village; I would really like to question how? Surely the Sarpanch should know by now, with so much awareness on the issue; that mega-projects like the one, he is supporting will make the village and its residents a non-entity soon!! Donating a garbage truck and vested promises of development are not arguments for betterment of a village!! Arwin Mesquita (UAE) _ Keep your friends updated—even when you’re not signed in. http://www.microsoft.com/middleeast/windows/windowslive/see-it-in-action/social-network-basics.aspx?ocid=PID23461::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-xm:SI_SB_5:092010
[Goanet] Goa news for November 29, 2009
Goa News from Google News and Goanet.org Visit http://www.goanet.org/newslinks.php for the full stories. *** Increase green cover in mining belt: Prez - Herald Publications arming/Global-warming-eroding-Goa-beaches-Governor/articleshow/5261239.cmsusg=AFQjCNEAHBIUeQbs74lxddFa1meS_vdEzwGlobal warming eroding Goa beaches: Governor http://news.google.com/news/url?fd=Rsa=Turl=http://oheraldo.in/pagedetails.asp?nid=30308cid=2usg=AFQjCNEqJST1OpGZ7W8hCR-r0p0Cze_BtQ *** Indian film fraternity heads to Goa as IFFI kicks off - IBNLive.com ay festival brings together over 200 films from 50 ... http://news.google.com/news/url?fd=Rsa=Turl=http://ibnlive.in.com/news/indian-film-fraternity-heads-to-goa-as-iffi-kicks-off/105834-8.html?from=tnusg=AFQjCNFsxvs_hobNIkRV3Ob1uRvyGAEWHw *** Aamir miffed with Pratik Babbar - Times of India ut, adds the ... http://news.google.com/news/url?fd=Rsa=Turl=http://movies.indiatimes.com/News/Aamir-miffed-with-Pratik-Babbar/articleshow/5260590.cmsusg=AFQjCNHrU_fzRzuVxghnCWDfBVBBqqrj5A *** Sporting signs Japanese defender - Rediff ndia/news/1064/i-league/2009/11/23/1641728/i-league-sporting-look-to-japanese-to-solve-their-defensiveusg=AFQjCNG38TNPVbOjmfq9SrldTRP5S0SL9wI-League: Sporting Look To Japanese To Solve Their Defensive Woes http://news.google.com/news/url?fd=Rsa=Turl=http://sports.rediff.com/report/2009/nov/23/sporting-signs-japanese-defender.htmusg=AFQjCNEBRbHvbzNy9Prcv5OgbWHNKU207A *** Envoy recalls role of Goan artisans in Brazil churches - Gulf Times lf TimesGoa and Brazil share a number of similarities dating back to Portuguese colonial rule, namely language, culture, art and football, said Brazilian Ambassador ...a class= http://news.google.com/news/url?fd=Rsa=Turl=http://www.gulf-times.com/site/topics/article.asp?cu_no=2item_no=328126version=1template_id=36parent_id=16usg=AFQjCNFV5LUHp78AclF6NBJ9k2OX83j0Eg *** Kuwait: Goan Student Goan Student Desiree Noela Dias Bags GUST Award - Daijiworld.com oa and residing in Margao-Goa, ...a class= http://news.google.com/news/url?fd=Rsa=Turl=http://www.daijiworld.com/news/news_disp.asp?n_id=68726n_tit=Kuwait%3A+Goan+Student+Goan+Student+Desiree+Noela+Dias+Bags+GUST+Awardusg=AFQjCNENFQZIDYdtVpKN4mUi6gH72jiPjg *** Asin's name misspelt by Goa CM! - Buzz18 India zz18 India[Nov 23, 2009] Panaji, Nov 21 (IANS) Goa Chief Minister Digambar Kamat Saturday pronounced popular actress Thottumkal's name as Asian, and when quizzed over ...a class= http://news.google.com/news/url?fd=Rsa=Turl=http://buzz18.in.com/news/movies/asins-name-misspelt-by-goa-cm/171092/0usg=AFQjCNEpGACMyc5D7MxTpSoctbTh1L-OCg *** Guns And Butter Are No Recipe For Wellness Under Overhaul - NPR un HHS Secretary Kathleen Sebelius from decreeing that 'no guns' is somehow healthier. ...a class= http://news.google.com/news/url?fd=Rsa=Turl=http://www.npr.org/blogs/health/2009/11/guns_and_butter_are_no_recipe.htmlusg=AFQjCNGQ5exoQKgVmopdFilZxhfFg-xVYg *** State rejects patrol boats from Goa yard - Times of India mes of IndiaMUMBAI: Days before the first anniversary of 26/11, the state government has refused to take delivery of special patrol boats from Goa Shipyard Limited ...a class= http://news.google.com/news/url?fd=Rsa=Turl=http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/mumbai/State-rejects-patrol-boats-from-Goa-yard/articleshow/5259068.cmsusg=AFQjCNH-K8duvGDAiKfnbl_pIm_8w--tRQ *** Iffi fever takes over Goa - Times of India mes of IndiaFrancisco Martins, member of the creative deco committee, has made it a point to adorn the corniche with brightly painted cardboard Goan houses, ...a class= http://news.google.com/news/url?fd=Rsa=Turl=http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/goa/Iffi-fever-takes-over-Goa/articleshow/5259289.cmsusg=AFQjCNF3W6E_B8UIVbIZH5XHy2JWkOvVfQ Compiled by Goanet News Service http://www.goanet.org/newslinks.php
[Goanet] Eslinda Alemao Memorial tournament (Kuwait)
Eslinda Alemao Memorial tournament Churchill-Brothers sponsored Kuwait Goan Association are all set to organize the 1st Edition of 7-a-Side Football Tournament under KIFF affiliation on November 28th, 2009 (Saturday) at Shuwaikh Grounds near Al-Sabah Hospital (MOH), commencing from 7.00 a.m. onwards. 12 teams are participating in the tournament which is sponsored by Canon, Kitco, Coca-Cola, Al-Zahem Malhotra, Bhasin, Lipton Tea, and Al-Ahsriya Printing Press. All football lovers are invited to witness the grand event during the Eid festivities with compere Merwyn Pereira to keep you in the mood. Lots of prizes and surprises. KIFF Referees will be officiating the matches. The chief guest will be Dr. Pravin Dangla and the guest of honour will be Tome Gracias, Sales Manager, Canon. Eid Mubarak to all.
Re: [Goanet] Tyranny of Mega Housing Projects effecting Goans
491 should read 451 years of the Portuguese presence. The error on my part is regretted. John Menezes Date: Thu, 26 Nov 2009 17:34:00 -0500 From: john menezes To: Goanet Tyranny of Mega-Housing Projects Today, November 25, is the 499th. anniversary of the liberation of Goa by Afonso de Albuquerque. 491 years of the Portuguese presence have given Goa a distinctive ambience and elegance which the non-Goans both in India and abroad have recently discovered through the new communication links
Re: [Goanet] Goanet Reader: Just Loving Life: The Spirit That's Uniquely Anglo-Indian (SAR News)
I have not read this whole article, but the first few paragraphs have turned me off... this is typical anglo attitude of we are the superior race!. the british were guitly of doing this all over the world: make the natives a second class inferior race! shame on you, author, for boasting about your servants, education, jobs., anthony
Re: [Goanet] Just Loving Life: The Spirit That's Uniquely Anglo-Indian (SAR News)
Catholic Goans are vanishing because they're migrating. They're like matter changing its form! As far as their identity disappearing goes, is this anything new? I think Goans (particularly the Catholics among them) were the first to struggle with the migration reality: loss of language skills, loose links with home, threats to properties back home, fears of being displaced, being squeezed by language and domicile policies, running into the Idi Amins of the world etc, etc... today the rest of the Indian diaspora, including from large states, is facing the same. Instead of seeing a threat in every situation, we need to find new possibilities there. Before cyberspace came along in the mid-1990s, things were far more disconnected. Today, at least you have an ex-Africander sitting in Canada writing a book on Konkani music (together with another Goan in Canada, one in Bahamas, and someone in Goa poking fun and asking since when Malaika became a Konkani song, etc). So what if we disagree vehemently? At least we're getting onto a common page! This is probably happening after centuries. When we reached Goa in the 1960s, it was still a retirement home made up of kiddies and grandparents! FN 2009/11/28 Gabe Menezes gabe.mene...@gmail.com: RESPONSE: Very nice article indeed; the same way to go for Catholic Goans. All that will endure is our soropotel and Fenny, along with our surnames! As one writer put it here not that long ago, who the bleep cares for Goan Associations! -- Frederick Noronha :: +91-832-2409490 Writing, editing, alt.publishing, photography, journalism ANOTHER GOA: http://tiny.cc/anothergoa
[Goanet] In My Opinion
IN MY OPINION By Bennet Paes * Politicians are a breed apart. Come rain or shine, they make hay, regardless. * They say – if you have to see the forest, cut the trees that obstruct the view. By that they mean “broad vision”. * They see no evil, hear no evil; and that’s what they want us to do when they do evil. * They say robbing Peter and not paying Paul, is correction to corruption. * They solve unemployment of locals by inviting migrant workers. That’s their definition of “affirmative action”. * Someone asked me: Which one is best – Congress, BJP or the rest? And I said: One is a glass half-full, the other half-empty. And the rest are vying for space in either glass. Remember, not all Politicians are bad. Only some are worse. -- The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Yahoo! Homepage. http://in.yahoo.com/
[Goanet] Portuguese Civil Code and Property Law
Thank you, Theo. Eric. Please check the English version at http://bit.ly/6b24jo which may help to understand what has changed in the Portuguese law since the Seabra Code modified in 1966 by what is known as Varela code. The adaptation in 1966 was worked out under the direction of a Minister of Justice of the Salazar regime, João de Matos Antunes Varela (1919-2005) who considered himself a true republican. Following his PhD in law at Coimbra University he had been professor of law at various Portuguese universities, and also of Bahia in Brasil and in Macau. These inputs may help the GRNetters to view critically and cease being mytically enchanted by the facets of colonial law prevailing in Goa!
[Goanet] Aitaracheo Katkutleo: Bappu, Aii Taptta Mure
Bappu, Aii Taptta Mure “Bapu” “Sang Xanu” “Arithmetik tticherin mhaka gonit galem.” “Koslem?” “Tinnem vicharlem: Don Aii, anik don Aii, anik don Aii. Kitleo zaleo? Hanvem sanglem, sat. Tinnem mhonnlem sarkem na. Uprant tinnem dusre toren vicharlem. Don chokleti, anik don chokleti, anik don chokleti. Ani hanvem 6 zatat mhunn zap dili. Tinnem mhonnlem sarkem asa. Hech toren tinnem porot ekdam don Aii ditam, anik don Aii, anik don Aii. Atam sang kitleo Aii zaleo? Mhagele Aii-k hixeobar dovorlear 7 zatat, hanvem zap dili” “Are pixea, ghora koddle Aii-chi khobor tticherik kiteak zai axil’li? Tticher dita ti Aii ghevn yevncho nhi?” “Ani mhagele Aii-k kitem korchem asle? Boro asa tum! Kombo.” “Bapu” “Sang Xanu.” “General Knowledge tticherin ek gozal sangli. Eka khunik (kirmidorak) mornnachi faxi favlli. Taka tin kudd vo rooms dakhoile. Poilea kuddint torsadi (sword) ghevn tachi gomtti kapunk monis axil’le. Dusre kuddint ujeachi baim asa. Taka baint duklun udovpak monis ravtale. Ani tisre kuddint 6 mhoinnem bhuken tollmolltole xinv axil’le. Khuni khuinchea kuddint vochun aplo jiv vatovtolo? Ho tticherigelo prons.” “Tugele ttichericho bezo kollmela. Poilea kuddint torsadin kapunk monis ravtat, dusrea kuddint uzo asa ani tisrea kuddint bhukil’le xinv ekach ghansan taka nach kortole. Sang pora, to kirmidor koxo apnnalo jiv vatoitolo?” “Budd’du tumi, sarke budd’du. Ho prons hanvem sodoilo.” “Koso?” “Are Bapu. Poir tumi, mhagele Aii thaim zhogoddtale nhi?” “Goddie karan axi’lem zait.” “Mhagele Aii-k tumi mhonntale. Puro, puro Jayanti. Tugele ‘Karwa Chauth’ upas chodduch zale. Don sumana zalim hanv upaxim. Anik ‘purima’ upas korta mhollear hanv upaxim mortolom.” “Pora, to vichar ghov-baile modim ubzovta.” “Ani hench lokxan ghevn hanvem tticherik sanglem. Magelea bapu lagim don sumana upaxim ravunk zaina zalear 6 mhoinnem bhukelole xinv koxe jive urtole? Kirmidor melolea xinvanche kuddan apnnacho jiv vatovpak rigtolo.” “Bhouch huxear mure tum?” “Konacho por tor hanv?” “Bapu” “Sang Xanu” “Mhaka prem’ zala.” “Vorsam kitlim tuka?” “Ghelea vorsabirthday cake-ir nnov mennvatio (candels) pettovloleo. Anik 2 sumanan mhozo zolm dis yeta.” “Konnacho mog zala?” “Science tticherigele choliecho. Mhojech vorgan xikta ti” “Punn ek sang. Tuvem tticheriche choliek koxi faraili?” “Poir khelltana ti sango, hanv tika avoddtam.” “Zalear, tuvem kitem zap dili?” “Hanvem tika divnk na. Fuddarak zat’le sasuk zap dili.” “Kosli zap?” “Science vorg choltana, tticherin vicharlem. Bhurgim koxim zolman yetat? Ani hanvem soroll zap dili. Rupan (tticherigele choliechem nanv) ani hanvem mog korunk zai.” “Sarko mosto por mure tum?” “Ti ragovli dista mhaka. Tuka ani Aii-k falleam iskolant apoileant” “Kiteak?” “Ghoddie lognachem tharavpak.” Bapui-putacheo gozaleo (conversation) chalu astana bazarant gel’li Jayanti bhitor sorta. Sodam porim por, Aii fuddem veta ani bazarantli pixi (bag) sonspunk kori tedna Aii aroddta. “Hat lanvchona.” Por sarkoch ghonddollta. Roddunk lagta. Poilech khepek ragacho dhengxo Aii koddlean khata. Bapaik vaitt dista. “Oxe toren porak boball korcho nhi” “Tuvenuch piddear kela taka. Tageli science tticher bhazarant gavleli.” “Falleam amkam iskolant apoileant. Oxem nhi.” “Tuka koxem koll’llem?” “Amgelea poran sanglam.” “Loz zali mhaka. Porak kosli xist (discipline) xikoilea kai mhunn tticher vichari.” “Bapu.” “Sang Xanu.” “Aii taptta mure! Tticher ditali tich Aii haddpak zai axil’li nhi?” Lino B. Dourado http://aitaracheokaskuleo.blogspot.com/
[Goanet] Fwd: *Barcem* (MINING)
*Barcem locals want govt to reject firm’s mining lease * ** *HERALD REPORTER * *Barcem locals want govt to reject firm’s mining lease * *HERALD REPORTER * *MARGAO, NOV 27 * ** *Villagers of Barcem under the banner of Barcem Nagrik Samiti* on Friday called on the South Goa District Collector, G P Naik and conveyed their strong opposition to the proposed mining activities in the village. The villagers demanded that the government reject the mining lease sought by a mining company to commence mining operations, saying the economy of the village is primarily dependent on agriculture. “Barcem village has a hilly topography. The cashew plantation is around 85 per cent while paddy is about 10 per cent. Cashew production turnover is around Rs 50 lakh per year”, the villagers pointed out. Saying that the village has around six natural springs, seven ponds, five wells, two main streams and other drainage system, which fulfills the livelihood of the villagers, the Samiti said that Quedem has 550 population, consisting of 95 per cent of Velip community. “They eke their livelihood on agriculture”, the memorandum submitted to the district collector stated adding that granting of mining lease will endanger the very existence of the village. The District Collector told Herald that the villagers has demanded that the government reject the application for the mining leases and promised to forward the representation to the higher-ups for necessary action saying that permissions for mining activities are only granted by the Department of Mines. A local resident, Kushali Velip said the village youths have no jobs and are dependent on agriculture to earn their livelihood. He warned that the people will no option to come on the streets and block any move to grant the mining lease. *http://oheraldo.in/pagedetails.asp?nid=30466cid=26*http://oheraldo.in/pagedetails.asp?nid=30466cid=26 *VIVA GOA* __._,_.___ Reply to sender konkani_catho...@yahoo.com?subject=*barcem* | Reply to group goan_online_allia...@yahoogroups.com?subject=*barcem* Messages in this topichttp://groups.yahoo.com/group/Goan_Online_Alliance/message/1440;_ylc=X3oDMTM1dmVxZ2NuBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzE5MTA5MTE3BGdycHNwSWQDMTcwNTA2MDQxMQRtc2dJZAMxNDQwBHNlYwNmdHIEc2xrA3Z0cGMEc3RpbWUDMTI1OTQwMzQ0OAR0cGNJZAMxNDQw( 1) Recent Activity: Visit Your Grouphttp://groups.yahoo.com/group/Goan_Online_Alliance;_ylc=X3oDMTJmaGU0dmMyBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzE5MTA5MTE3BGdycHNwSWQDMTcwNTA2MDQxMQRzZWMDdnRsBHNsawN2Z2hwBHN0aW1lAzEyNTk0MDM0NDg- Start a New Topichttp://groups.yahoo.com/group/Goan_Online_Alliance/post;_ylc=X3oDMTJmcmFnY3FmBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzE5MTA5MTE3BGdycHNwSWQDMTcwNTA2MDQxMQRzZWMDZnRyBHNsawNudHBjBHN0aW1lAzEyNTk0MDM0NDg- MARKETPLACE Going Green: Your Yahoo! Groups resource for green livinghttp://us.ard.yahoo.com/SIG=14kj3th0c/M=493064.13814333.13821539.13298430/D=groups/S=1705060411:MKP1/Y=YAHOO/EXP=1259410648/L=/B=jjdAHUPDhE0-/J=1259403448980933/K=IlK7AYG0cQ_zXm8_6hr_Mg/A=5922843/R=0/SIG=11ckn2mo6/*http://advision.webevents.yahoo.com/green/ -- Mom Power: Discover the community of moms doing more for their families, for the world and for each otherhttp://us.ard.yahoo.com/SIG=14kr9s671/M=493064.13814537.13821737.10835568/D=groups/S=1705060411:MKP1/Y=YAHOO/EXP=1259410648/L=/B=jzdAHUPDhE0-/J=1259403448980933/K=IlK7AYG0cQ_zXm8_6hr_Mg/A=5697381/R=0/SIG=11eaa5dke/*http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mompowergroup/ [image: Yahoo! Groups]http://groups.yahoo.com/;_ylc=X3oDMTJlYXVnZDk2BF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzE5MTA5MTE3BGdycHNwSWQDMTcwNTA2MDQxMQRzZWMDZnRyBHNsawNnZnAEc3RpbWUDMTI1OTQwMzQ0OA-- Switch to: Text-Onlygoan_online_alliance-traditio...@yahoogroups.com?subject=change+delivery+format:+Traditional, Daily Digestgoan_online_alliance-dig...@yahoogroups.com?subject=email+delivery:+Digest• Unsubscribegoan_online_alliance-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com?subject=unsubscribe• Terms of Use http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ . __,_._,___ -- Please post your comments on my Blog: http://goanidentity.blogspot.com/ Please also see below: 1. Benaulim Village Action Committee: http://www.bvacbenaulim.blogspot.com/ 2. Rape of Goa : http://www.parrikar.com/blog/the-rape-of-goa/ 3. MAND - an adivasi-rights resource centre : http://mandgoa.blogspot.com/ 4. EVERY GOAN SHOULD SEE THIS VIDEO: http://infochangeindia.org/Infochange-documentary.html 5. For the Love of Konkani: http://www.radiogoa.net/ 6. Goa's Identity Movement website: http://www.goamag.net/gim 7. Official Government Site NRI Office (GOA): http://www.globalgoans.org.in/
[Goanet] God and You
Albert writes:- Many times we are engulfed with pride that we do not understand the basic rules to be a christian. The other day I was invited for a wedding at Palm Dale little beyond Bom Jesus Convent. The road here and there was blocked because of the novenas and as such we had to take a route via the bypass. It was eleven thirty night and the driver of the rickshaw in which we were travelling was not familiar with the road but went on and on and in the dark and under the forest cover one did not know where we had reached but with Divine providence carried on and reached a small church or chapel in front of which there were some youth playing badminton. One of the youth had spotted a nice beard and seems to be a hero of the lot and spoke in salcette accent. But what surprised me was when we asked him the direction to reach Panjim he began to mock us for not knowing the way. Tumi Ponje vochpak noklot ? Tumi Ponje vochpak noklot tor kuim thaun devleat tor tumi ? but there was another of the lot who told us to go straight and turn right and you will soon reach Panjim. We christians who term ourselves as Catholics and we have Mother Mary to interceed for us do not know that Mary was always there to help others in need. I wanted to cry shame on you but kept cool and quiet too. I just said Father forgive him for he does not know what he is talking about.This particular church or chapel as Icould not figure out lies close to the Merces Junction on the bypass from _ New Windows 7: Simplify what you do everyday. Find the right PC for you. http://windows.microsoft.com/shop
[Goanet] Panic over nuke leak as Kaiga workers fall ill
http://www.dnaindia.com/india/report_panic-over-nuke-leak-as-kaiga-workers-fall-ill_1317821 Dangerous signs, this one. This is so close to Goa that we cant remain mute spectators. samir
[Goanet] Should these guys receive communion?
Irish Priest Admits Abusing 100 Kids By Daniel Florien on November 28, 2009 in Catholicism, Current Events, Religion. A new report is out showing the Most Holy Chaste Catholic Church has been covering up child sex abuse for decades: Following a three-year investigation in the Dublin Archdiocese, the country’s largest, the report concluded that four archbishops routinely protected abusers and failed to inform police of the allegations. One priest admitted to sexually abusing over 100 children, while another confessed that he had abused on a fortnightly basis over 25 years. “The volume of revelations of child sexual abuse by clergy over the past 35 years or so has been described by a Church source as a ‘tsunami’ of sexual abuse,” said the report…. The judicial probe discovered that the archbishops did not report abuse to police until the 1990s as part of a culture of secrecy and to try and avoid damaging the reputation of the Church. The report said: “All other considerations, including the welfare of children and justice for victims, were subordinated to these priorities”. It found children who complained “were often met with denial, arrogance and cover-up and with incompetence and incomprehension in some cases. Suspicions were rarely acted on”. Some of my Catholic friends boycott large companies because they have donated to gay rights or pro-choice organizations. Yet they give their money and loyalty to an organization that has been abusing children and covering it up for decades (though it’s probably been more like 1,700 years). It’s mind-boggling. Vasant Baliga
[Goanet] Goan Catholics be warned....
Date: Fri, 27 Nov 2009 22:11:33 -0500 From: manuel tavares duk...@bell.net Mario, you have a double standard. Kennedy only supports the right of Women to Chose. It cannot be proved that he has not nor has his partner commit abortion. So it is like condemning him to hell for something he has not done.Refusing him communion on these grounds is frivolous. Mario responds. Manuel, get a grip. I have no double standard. Those who show remorse and repent must be forgiven. Those who openly defy the Church, especially in a situation that leads to over a million deaths just in the US, should not continue their membership for social and political benefits. No one has condemned anyone to hell. Bishops do not have the power to do that. This has nothing to do with what Kennedy has done personally. The Kennedy family and Patrick Kennedy are active advocates for abortion on demand and even want the government to pay for it with taxpayer money. They have done nothing to promote the choice of adoption. If they believe so strongly that it is OK for a woman to take an innocent life rather than choose adoption, they should leave the Church and then do whatever they want. Manuel wrote: Now allowing re-married people to receive communion even if they have their marriage annulled previously is the same as committing adultary. Who gave the church the authority to annull marriages. Mario responds: You seem to be making up your own rules. The Pope gave the church the authority. Manuel wrote: The church has no authority therefore to Annul any marriages. Mario responds: A bit premature, Manuel. I'm afraid you will have to wait until they make you Pope:-)) The difference you seem to be ignoring is continued and open defiance of Church teachings, versus those who have sinned and are remorseful and ask for forgiveness and vow to avoid the actions in future. Date: Fri, 27 Nov 2009 14:23:24 -0500 From: J. Colaco jc cola...@gmail.com Is it OK (by the Church) to kill the BORN by way of the Death Penalty or by waging unprovoked wars? Mario responds: The Catholic Church opposes capital punishment. However, to compare the Death Penalty with abortions is a specious red herring. The Death Penalty in the US for example, is carried out by a judicial system in very few and rare cases - 42 in 2007, 37 in 2008 - on those who have taken the life or lives of others under aggravated circumstances, after conviction by a court of law and an average of 10 to 15 years of legal appeals at taxpayer expense, versus well over a million abortions of purely innocent lives with no conviction or no right of appeal. The legal theory is to protect the lives of others and to deter others from committing similar crimes. Jose wrote: Is it OK to bomb innocent civilians? Has the Church (except Pope John Paul II) raised any voice against this? Mario responds: No, it is not OK to deliberately target innocent civilians. Currently, all those deliberately bombing innocent civilians happen to be Muslim heretics. Jose wrote: Has the Church publicly denied communion to those in the Church hierarchy who have abused and condoned abuse of innocent children? Mario responds: The Church has no grounds for denying communion to anyone who has shown remorse and repented for their sins, however heinous. If those who have abused or condoned the abuse of innocent children are continuing to openly and publicly do so, and have not shown remorse or repented, they would be denied communion. The subject of this discussion, Sen. Patrick Kennedy, has shown no remorse for openly and publicly defying a sacred and unequivocal teaching of the Church on the sanctity of innocent unborn life, and continues to openly and publicly defy the Church.
Re: [Goanet] Should these guys receive communion?
In such cases, the issue is prosecution and conviction... not communion. Having said that, the source of this item is a born-again non-believer who seems to be pretty devout about his new faith: http://unreasonablefaith.com/about/ To me, the issue should be reform within religion (and all such human institutions) rather than using such developments to score my-religion-is-better-than-yours points. Mario's vehemently-argued perspective is an interesting insight into the stranglehold conservatives like to have on religion, and to shape the realm of god in their own image and likeness. FN 2009/11/29 Vasant Baliga vabal...@yahoo.com: Irish Priest Admits Abusing 100 Kids By Daniel Florien on November 28, 2009 in Catholicism, Current Events, Religion. A new report is out showing the Most Holy Chaste Catholic Church has been covering up child sex abuse for decades: -- Frederick Noronha :: +91-832-2409490 Writing, editing, alt.publishing, photography, journalism ANOTHER GOA: http://tiny.cc/anothergoa
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Dear AF, You have a strong point! It very much reminds me of our Goan community too! In what way are we different? Maybe only a bit more subtle about it nowadays. FN 2009/11/29 AF co...@comettele.com: I have not read this whole article, but the first few paragraphs have turned me off... this is typical anglo attitude of we are the superior race!. the british were guitly of doing this all over the world: make the natives a second class inferior race! shame on you, author, for boasting about your servants, education, jobs., anthony -- Frederick Noronha :: +91-832-2409490 Writing, editing, alt.publishing, photography, journalism ANOTHER GOA: http://tiny.cc/anothergoa
